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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: BTM99 on May 03, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
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I am 36 hours in on my quit and feeling it. I ordered a log of Hooch Herbal chew yesterday and am waiting not so paitently on it to get here. Cannot find any herbal chew anywhere, I have been in every convenience store and wal-mart in the area., and that is never easy considering my physical state and my state of mind. Should have planned better, but now that I am 36 hours in there is no going back.
I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
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Above is some reading material. We quit on this site by posting "roll" one day at a time. You should join us. You can post roll and scream at us all you want. We know what you are going through.
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I am just starting to get the urge too man. This time I won't give in to it though and fail myself. You wont give in either. Keep truckin' through the hell man.
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Thanks, team. I know that it is going to be rough (I quit at about age 25 for an entire year), but I do not remember the physical and mental symptoms being this bad.
It is good to know that others out there that understand.
Glad I found this place.
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Hang in there man. I'm finishing up my Day 7. Headaches, major cravings, emotional ups and downs, insomnia, being a grumpy bastard, going from freaking great to freaking pissed in 0.01 seconds, going from clear to cloudy thought, the FOG, just put it this way we don't call it the SUCK for nothing. Embrace 'THE SUCK" cause thats the feeling of healing. Just remember how bad this sucks going through this and that you never wanna turn to the nic bitch again. Apply everything you have to your quit. Your gonna need all your resolve and motivation for this one. Be truthful to yourself and to our brotherhood. No nic of any form, post roll everyday to keep yourself accountable, hell PM me and I will give you my number if you would like to have someone to text or call. Hang tough and stay quit!
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Welcome. Check your (Inbox 1) upper right corner of your screen. Learn what it means to post roll.
If you can give your word and keep it, everything else will work itself out.
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Just had a massive nosebleed, and I cannot recall the last nosebleed I had (had to be when I was a kid). Took about 20 minutes to stop the gushing. My T-shirt looks like I have been in a Tarantino film.
May be a stupid ?, but any reason why this would be related to the quit? Is this a known symptom or anyone else experience this?
I am just ending Day 4.
Would not question it except for the fact that I have not had a nosebleed in 20 years.
Or maybe I am just paranoid.
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Just had a massive nosebleed, and I cannot recall the last nosebleed I had (had to be when I was a kid). Took about 20 minutes to stop the gushing. My T-shirt looks like I have been in a Tarantino film.Â
May be a stupid ?, but any reason why this would be related to the quit? Is this a known symptom or anyone else experience this?
I am just ending Day 4.
Would not question it except for the fact that I have not had a nosebleed in 20 years.
Or maybe I am just paranoid.
I'm not a licensed medical doctor but I have been known to play gynecologist at times. Shouldn't be related to your quit unless you were snorting traditional snuff. Might be pollen, dry air, anything.
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Thought so. Never snorted anything.
The only thing I read was that nictine increases mucus, phlem (sp?), etc. Now that the nic is gone could that have a affect? Who knows.
Thanks for the knowledge.
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Your body is a walking talking clusterfuck until it lears to deal with itself without the nic-bitch. That said, if you feel you need to see a doctor, then you should see a doctor. Couldn't hurt, and he can pat you on the back for your decision to quit.
WINNING
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I'm on day 51 and still using the fake stuff round the clock. It has made all the difference :)
After 3 days the nicotine should be out of the system and it's all head games from here on out... and you can beat the voices in your head, right?
Don't give in and you wont ever have to feel this way again!
p.s. the first week is the hardest, then it gets better each day- hang in there!
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Three days is huge!!! Congrats. No going back...you're living Nic Free, Bro!!!
The fake stuff is a great crutch. The rule is, anything goes as long as it is nic free. (I recommend some limit on "anything" but that is up to you).
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My lovely wife pointed this out to me after see a blurb in this week's ESPN magazine.
Grinds - Developed by 2 former Baseball players
This is from their website: http://www.getgrinds.com/ (http://www.getgrinds.com/)
"Grinds was designed and developed in 2009 to provide an energy boost and healthy alternative to tobacco. Each can contains 20 pouches of flavored coffee, designed to deliver that quick kick to get you going any time or place. Whether you're on the field or in the office, there's never a bad time to Grind It Out.
No nicotine. No tobacco. No BS. Just good old fashioned raw energy that's ready anytime you are. Start Grinding People."
I love coffee and caffeine, so I believe I will give these a try and report back.
3 cans for $9.99. 2 flavors - Mocha and Chocolate Mint.
Winding down Day 5.
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Pretty easy to order. Paypal was the only choice for payment. I ordered a 3 can pack of each flavor, and shipping was $4.95 total. Total of $24.95 for 6 cans.
We will see if it scratches the itch.
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I ran into the same thing here. I could not find any fake stuff locally so had to order it. I used smokey mountain chew for my crutch. I used it every day for a while then just stopped one day. I will get a can every now and then if I know I can going to be around my "triggers" but I have not had a fake dip since Jan.
Congrats and keep up the QUIT!
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Cool find, thanks for sharing. So these are like Bandits, little pouches? Interesting.
I dipped straight coffee grounds at one desperate point in the quit, and it packed a little punch.
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Cool find, thanks for sharing. So these are like Bandits, little pouches? Interesting.
I dipped straight coffee grounds at one desperate point in the quit, and it packed a little punch.
After I ran out of the herbal snuff I went to the coffee grounds regularly for a couple weeks as my dip alternative. Save money since I was using the already brewed beans. Didn't get much of a caff buzz but then I'm always taking in so much caffiene I likely wouldn't notice anyway.
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Sounds good, but the price is a little steep. The herbal chews aren't wonderful but they have the relative taste of tobacco. Mint chew is not recommended. It looks and tastes literally like shit. Plus you have a baby shit green spit. It's nastier. But the Cinnamon flavor is actually not bad. Best thing to do is to find whatever suits your taste and needs.
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
well said rebeldog!
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
well said rebeldog!
Nicotine adds stress....to every organ in your body. 'Finger' the nic bitch.
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
well said rebeldog!
Nicotine adds stress....to every organ in your body. 'Finger' the nic bitch.
What you all have said to Phillips is all very true but I think y'all missed the point. He wasn't really reminiscing about the good ole days per se he was trying to draw a connection to a fellow addict. I know where Phillips is coming from though, dipping done the same thing for me when I was under a lot of anxiety. Problem was the nic bitch told me filthy lies everytime I fingerbanged her plastic crotch. She told me that she calmed me down. That all I needed to do was put a fatty in and it would all be ok. Problem was she was a lying whore. Phillips, these guys are right though, you need to put dipping memories far behind you. Thats history and quit is the future. Everytime the nic bitch comes and teases you 'boob' look at that bitch and say 'Finger'
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Ordered these on Friday and received the Mocha today! A little wetter than I expected, but flavor is pretty straight forward. I like that it is in a pouch, that Hooch gets everywhere in my teeth (never a fan of fine cut).
First impression on the Mocha is = not bad not good. I did just spit out a Hooch Spitfire to try this one, do I could have that lingering. Impressed w/ the quick delivery (at no extra charge).
Looking forward to the Mint Chocolate.
BTM99- Day 8 is nearly done!
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I ordered a log of Hooch Herbal chew yesterday and am waiting not so patiently on it to get here. Cannot find any herbal chew anywhere, I have been in every convenience store and wal-mart in the area., and that is never easy considering my physical state and my state of mind. Should have planned better...
Right there with you. I'm coming up fast on 24 hours. Ordered some hooch before noon and figured I could leave work early and find some herbal snuff somewhere. Fukkin mega fail.
Could have prepared better but screw it. By the time 2:00 pm rolled around that was already the longest I had been without a dip in a decade. Not turning back now, but I sure as hell am looking forward to the arrival of some fake dip to pacify my mouf.
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I ordered a log of Hooch Herbal chew yesterday and am waiting not so patiently on it to get here. Cannot find any herbal chew anywhere, I have been in every convenience store and wal-mart in the area., and that is never easy considering my physical state and my state of mind. Should have planned better...
Right there with you. I'm coming up fast on 24 hours. Ordered some hooch before noon and figured I could leave work early and find some herbal snuff somewhere. Fukkin mega fail.
Could have prepared better but screw it. By the time 2:00 pm rolled around that was already the longest I had been without a dip in a decade. Not turning back now, but I sure as hell am looking forward to the arrival of some fake dip to pacify my mouf.
Welcome! I am just clearing Day 8. Day 1 and 2 were hell, Days 6 and 7 were really tough (weekend). It will not be easy, Sunflower seeds were a big help, and I actually prefer them over Hooch at times, but to each his own.
Good luck and stay accountable here.
If you need some support let us know.
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
well said rebeldog!
Nicotine adds stress....to every organ in your body. 'Finger' the nic bitch.
What you all have said to Phillips is all very true but I think y'all missed the point. He wasn't really reminiscing about the good ole days per se he was trying to draw a connection to a fellow addict. I know where Phillips is coming from though, dipping done the same thing for me when I was under a lot of anxiety. Problem was the nic bitch told me filthy lies everytime I fingerbanged her plastic crotch. She told me that she calmed me down. That all I needed to do was put a fatty in and it would all be ok. Problem was she was a lying whore. Phillips, these guys are right though, you need to put dipping memories far behind you. Thats history and quit is the future. Everytime the nic bitch comes and teases you 'boob' look at that bitch and say 'Finger'
Follow the steps grasshoppa
You feel stressed
stress hormones eliminate nicotine from your bloodstream.
you go into withdrawl- irratibility, anxiety, dip rage, lack concentration, blah blah
you chew, and relieve the WITHDRAWL symptoms.
you feel better
you mistakenly believe that the chew helped you cope with stress.
Nope, stress is still there, you just relieved the withdrawl symptoms.
Now wash rinse and repeat until your dumb ass learns that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping you addicted to nicotine. In my case 23 years.
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BTM- Proud to be Quit with you. Let me know if you need anything. Peace
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I think the use of Chew (Kodiak and Grizzly) was maining a stress reliever for me. I feel like I am in the red and could snap at just about anybody today.
I feel you there brother. Chew for me was a way to relax and feel calmer. Just hang in there brother. I'm right here with you. 48 hours so far.
Fuck that, that's what the nicotine bitch wants you to think. Nicotine in any form pumping through your viens and raising your blood pressure will not in fact, calm you down. Your quitting is the best thing you can do. Stop reminiscing about how good it felt. Break free of your master. Onward to sucessful quit.
well said rebeldog!
Nicotine adds stress....to every organ in your body. 'Finger' the nic bitch.
What you all have said to Phillips is all very true but I think y'all missed the point. He wasn't really reminiscing about the good ole days per se he was trying to draw a connection to a fellow addict. I know where Phillips is coming from though, dipping done the same thing for me when I was under a lot of anxiety. Problem was the nic bitch told me filthy lies everytime I fingerbanged her plastic crotch. She told me that she calmed me down. That all I needed to do was put a fatty in and it would all be ok. Problem was she was a lying whore. Phillips, these guys are right though, you need to put dipping memories far behind you. Thats history and quit is the future. Everytime the nic bitch comes and teases you 'boob' look at that bitch and say 'Finger'
Follow the steps grasshoppa
You feel stressed
stress hormones eliminate nicotine from your bloodstream.
you go into withdrawl- irratibility, anxiety, dip rage, lack concentration, blah blah
you chew, and relieve the WITHDRAWL symptoms.
you feel better
you mistakenly believe that the chew helped you cope with stress.
Nope, stress is still there, you just relieved the withdrawl symptoms.
Now wash rinse and repeat until your dumb ass learns that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping you addicted to nicotine. In my case 23 years.
Fuck,
There is no great way to explain this to someone in your shoes.
Nicotine/dip only does one thing... prevents withdrawal symptoms.
Seriously, you are addicted to feeling normal. Even when you say the dip calms you. It does not calm you, it calms your withdrawal.
Calming you requires ridding your body of the nic bitch and finally ripping her nipples off.
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Going into the 13th day fighting the nic demons, and its been hell I promise you, but I found a pretty cool alternative to dip that gives me a pretty damn good buz without the nitroS Green tea laced with cayenne red pepper!! Try it fore ya knock it!! Hang in there, Greg
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This week on HBOs sports reporting show Real Sports they will be doing a story on smokeless tobacco in MLB.
Basically the story is about - Why is this custom still permitted in MLB and why do so many players still use in light of the well documented risks, and the effect usage by the games elite has on young players.
Here is a link to the synopsis:
http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bry ... umbel.html (http://www.hbo.com/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/index.html#/real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel/episodes/0/170-episode/synopsis/may-on-real-sports-with-bryant-gumbel.html)
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BUMP - this comes on tonight
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I have to be honest with you all, I don't really support banning tobacco in this way. Sure, I hate tobacco and don't think anyone should use it. I do however, support peoples rights to use it if they choose.
Now don't get me wrong, when Michigan banned smoking indoors I was very happy the next time I went to some of the bars. I know this is a little different than sporting events.
Also, I never once had a friend that dipped for any reason related sports. If anything, the only people I knew who ever did it to be "cool" or follow a trend, it was the girls in high school smoking because it was glamorized in the movies.
If it does get banned, I hope it is not banned by the league. I hope each team makes their own no tobacco policy on the field so that it is not a totalitarian decision by the league.
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Same guy, a tad longer segment on different show...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycYLuMm5no8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycYLuMm5no8)
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As a 14 year old, thinking I was fitting in with the guys I played baseball and football with I started dipping Skoal Mint. I grew up in a small farm town in the south/mid-west and it was just the thing to do.
All of that being said - it was my choice and I made the incorrect choice. I cannot recall one MLB player that influenced me to chew, and I was/am a huge STL Cardinal fan. It was the guys that I was running with that I was trying to impress not Willie McGee or Andy Van Slyke (obscure Cardinal references).
My hope is that 14 year olds that are now in the situation I was in will make a better decision.
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As a 14 year old, thinking I was fitting in with the guys I played baseball and football with I started dipping Skoal Mint. I grew up in a small farm town in the south/mid-west and it was just the thing to do.
All of that being said - it was my choice and I made the incorrect choice. I cannot recall one MLB player that influenced me to chew, and I was/am a huge STL Cardinal fan. It was the guys that I was running with that I was trying to impress not Willie McGee or Andy Van Slyke (obscure Cardinal references).
My hope is that 14 year olds that are now in the situation I was in will make a better decision.
Would it have made a difference if Jose Oquendo put out a PSA telling you to not start chewing?
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As a 14 year old, thinking I was fitting in with the guys I played baseball and football with I started dipping Skoal Mint. I grew up in a small farm town in the south/mid-west and it was just the thing to do.
All of that being said - it was my choice and I made the incorrect choice. I cannot recall one MLB player that influenced me to chew, and I was/am a huge STL Cardinal fan. It was the guys that I was running with that I was trying to impress not Willie McGee or Andy Van Slyke (obscure Cardinal references).Â
My hope is that 14 year olds that are now in the situation I was in will make a better decision.
Would it have made a difference if Jose Oquendo put out a PSA telling you to not start chewing?
Great question. I am not sure. '14 year old- me' was obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Anything 'The Secret Weapon' said should have made a difference, but I knew the risks. I just wanted to fit in.
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Going to be out of town and this weekend, and not taking the laptop (because if I do, I will work - and that is not fair to the family). Just need a # to text some roll on Saturday and possibly Sunday. I may be able to get to a computer, but want a back-up just incase.
Thanks:
BTM99
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PM sent. I post support in your group every day so I'd be more than happy to post roll for you BTM.
And good on ya for taking the initiative to have a plan...plan for the worst....dress for the crash...etc.
Proud to be quit with ya.
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PM sent. Hit me up brother. Posting for marj too...
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Thanks guys! I will be reaching out via text over the weekend.
Thanks.
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http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351 (http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351)
A buddy who knows I am quit told me about this. It was on Monday's episode of The Doctor's.
This dude needs to get his head in the game and get to killthecan.org
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http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351 (http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351)
A buddy who knows I am quit told me about this. It was on Monday's episode of The Doctor's.Â
This dude needs to get his head in the game and get to killthecan.org
Sad to say it, but he won't make it. "I would love to try to quit." He's toast before he even starts. Do or do not, there is no try.
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http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351 (http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351)
A buddy who knows I am quit told me about this. It was on Monday's episode of The Doctor's.Â
This dude needs to get his head in the game and get to killthecan.org
Sad to say it, but he won't make it. "I would love to try to quit." He's toast before he even starts. Do or do not, there is no try.
He could make it if that stupid ass Dr. was not pushing him toward the patch. Cold turkey is the only way.
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http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351 (http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/3351)
A buddy who knows I am quit told me about this. It was on Monday's episode of The Doctor's.Â
This dude needs to get his head in the game and get to killthecan.org
Sad to say it, but he won't make it. "I would love to try to quit." He's toast before he even starts. Do or do not, there is no try.
He could make it if that stupid ass Dr. was not pushing him toward the patch. Cold turkey is the only way.
Agreed.
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Need a August brother/sister to post roll for me FRI-SUN. Rolling out of town for a long family weekend in Wisconsin and am unsure of what internet coverage will be like.
Just e-mail those digits and I will text you.
Thanks so much in advance:
BTM99
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Any body take care of this?
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Got your back BTM99