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Title: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KodiakGrizzly on July 28, 2015, 02:20:00 PM
Hello, I'm new to the site, first post.

I quit using smokeless tobacco May 29, 2015. I dipped Kodiak for 20 years, then switched to Grizzly pouches for 3 years. So a user for a total of 23 years. I have been relying on nicotine gum and vaping for NRT. I currently use 4mg gum and 1.5 mg juice. I'm quitting vaping this weekend. After I level off will then work towards 2 mg nicotine gum. It's my system and has worked so far.

Anyway, so it's been 2 months since quitting dip and this past weekend I noticed a soreness in my mouth where I held my dip. Today I woke up to find a white patch in that spot. Now I'm no stranger to these white patches, I've had them off and on for years, I'm just a bit concerned/confused as to why I'd get one two months after quitting. My mouth has healed fairly well, it's pink again and almost smooth again (no more deep ridges). I have an appointment next week to get it checked out. Just want to see if anyone on here had thoughts or experience with this. Thanks.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: MatVol on July 28, 2015, 02:58:00 PM
First off, you should quit it all now. No more nicotine and get over to November and post roll. You will be glad you did.

I had a similar experience and had a "white patch" checked out a month or so after I quit. Thankfully, mine was nothing and was just part of the healing process and I was irritating it using fake stuff and or candy.

Are you using anything for the oral fixation that may be causing the irritation?

I hope for the best on your visit.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KodiakGrizzly on July 28, 2015, 03:15:00 PM
Thank you for the reply. Point taken and understood.

However, I've been through this cycle of quitting and relapsing too many times to count and I'm not rocking the boat - this is the first time I've made it this long without tobacco. I thank G*d every day I don't put that s**t in my mouth anymore. I know it's not a real 'quit' but I'm proud of myself and will continue to fight the fight. I starting vaping at 24 mg and leveled down to 1.5 mg, like I said it's my system, it works, and I haven't put dip in my mouth for 60 days.

I suppose the gum and vaping could be irritating that spot in my mouth, just surprised one of those showed up unexpectedly.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: MatVol on July 28, 2015, 03:20:00 PM
I understand that, but you are a slave to nicotine.

We have all tried other methods, and none work like this place. Cold turkey and some good old-fashion internet interaction seems to be working for many here.

I'm no doctor, and you should definitely have it checked to make you feel better, but my experience was similar.

Keep us posted and when you decide to stop all forms of nicotine, come back and post roll.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: Idaho Spuds on July 28, 2015, 03:20:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
Thank you for the reply. Point taken and understood.

However, I've been through this cycle of quitting and relapsing too many times to count and I'm not rocking the boat - this is the first time I've made it this long without tobacco. I thank G*d every day I don't put that s**t in my mouth anymore. I know it's not a real 'quit' but I'm proud of myself and will continue to fight the fight. I starting vaping at 24 mg and leveled down to 1.5 mg, like I said it's my system, it works, and I haven't put dip in my mouth for 60 days.

I suppose the gum and vaping could be irritating that spot in my mouth, just surprised one of those showed up unexpectedly.
Kodiak,
We quit cold turkey here, get rid of the gum and vap, destroy all cans and stashes. This process and accountability works, we are all addicts here. I chewed for 18years.
After you promise not to use nicotine (gum and chew) do the following:
Check out the welcome page: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Post your promise here: topic/11248831/27/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11248831/27/#new)

Your mouth takes a while to heal, it will only get better. Proud to quit with you
Idaho Spuds
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KodiakGrizzly on July 28, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
Well, I made this post expecting to get some feedback about the white patch and then go along my merry way with my nicotine gum. But you guys are 100% right. I need to quit all forms and get this done. I will come back after I see the doctor and do the roll call, etc. without the nic juice or gum Thank you.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: MatVol on July 28, 2015, 03:28:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
Well, I made this post expecting to get some feedback about the white patch and then go along my merry way with my nicotine gum. But you guys are 100% right. I need to quit all forms and get this done. I will come back after I see the doctor and do the roll call, etc. without the nic juice or gum Thank you.
No reason to wait till next week to quit, now works just fine.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: Mancave on July 28, 2015, 03:32:00 PM
Kodiak, I feel your pain as I too was an excuse maker. I chewed Kodiak for 26 years and I am on day 5 of my quit. How do I know this time is different? Because i want to do this for myself and not for anyone else, I also have looked myself in the mirror and realized what a pathetic little bitch I was giving into my cravings time after time. Enough is enough for me, im taking back control and the Nic bitch can suck my dick. I am here for you if you want to talk but please respect the rest of us in the community and quit everything today, cold turkey. It is going to suck balls but by posting roll every morning and just fighting one day at a time with this brotherhood, you CAN do it.

Proud to quit today with you.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KingNothing on July 28, 2015, 03:44:00 PM
Let go of the pacifier KG. The KTC way works. Hell, you can even tell the doc when you go see him that you've been nicotine free for __ days. No better day to be quit than today my man, let's get to it.

King
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: MatVol on July 28, 2015, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: KingNothing
Let go of the pacifier KG. The KTC way works. Hell, you can even tell the doc when you go see him that you've been nicotine free for __ days. No better day to be quit than today my man, let's get to it.

King
I agree, telling the doc you're no longer a nicotine user feels pretty bad ass.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: Idaho Spuds on July 28, 2015, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: MatVol
Quote from: KingNothing
Let go of the pacifier KG. The KTC way works. Hell, you can even tell the doc when you go see him that you've been nicotine free for __ days. No better day to be quit than today my man, let's get to it.

King
I agree, telling the doc you're no longer a nicotine user feels pretty bad ass.
I used to chew nicorete gum around my family and chew when I was a work, etc. I would always quit after this can or this pack of nic-gum... There is always tomorrow... but one thing is certain today
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: normjr88 on July 28, 2015, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: MatVol
Quote from: KingNothing
Let go of the pacifier KG. The KTC way works. Hell, you can even tell the doc when you go see him that you've been nicotine free for __ days. No better day to be quit than today my man, let's get to it.

King
I agree, telling the doc you're no longer a nicotine user feels pretty bad ass.
Just telling yourself your nic free is pretty badass. Quit today bro and you will never look back.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KennyZ on July 28, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
Please look at ForMyLife's introduction from February 2015's group. If his intro doesn't get you pumped to flush that shit down the toilet, nothing will.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: pab1964 on July 28, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
Quote from: KennyZ
Please look at ForMyLife's introduction from February 2015's group. If his intro doesn't get you pumped to flush that shit down the toilet, nothing will.
Man or mouse? Looks as if though you are used to failure! Why not change that and do something you've never done! QUIT! We will all quit with you!
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: MatVol on July 28, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: KennyZ
Please look at ForMyLife's introduction from February 2015's group. If his intro doesn't get you pumped to flush that shit down the toilet, nothing will.
Man or mouse? Looks as if though you are used to failure! Why not change that and do something you've never done! QUIT! We will all quit with you!
FML Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10691318/1/)

Good shit here, give it a read.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KodiakGrizzly on August 06, 2015, 04:32:00 PM
Had my doctor's visit today. The white patch disappeared a few days ago. The Dr. thought it might have been a canker sore and nothing to worry about. Had an Indentafi Oral Cancer Screen and it showed all tissue was clear. Doctor said I need to have gingival grafting done to patch up some gum recession at the place I held my dip. They will take some skin from the top of my mouth and graft that over the damaged area - that hasn't really sunk in yet so I guess I'm ok with it right now, but it doesn't sound like a whole lotta fun.

Now down to brass tacks. I quit the vape last week and just threw out my last two blister packs of nicotine gum...we'll see how I feel tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KingNothing on August 06, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
Had my doctor's visit today. The white patch disappeared a few days ago. The Dr. thought it might have been a canker sore and nothing to worry about. Had an Indentafi Oral Cancer Screen and it showed all tissue was clear. Doctor said I need to have gingival grafting done to patch up some gum recession at the place I held my dip. They will take some skin from the top of my mouth and graft that over the damaged area - that hasn't really sunk in yet so I guess I'm ok with it right now, but it doesn't sound like a whole lotta fun.

Now down to brass tacks. I quit the vape last week and just threw out my last two blister packs of nicotine gum...we'll see how I feel tomorrow morning.
See how you feel? As in, if you feel like shit, you better get back to killing yourself?

Listen man, now that the "scare" is over, what are you going to do with the good news. Use it to motivate your quit, don't shit all over it by continuing to tempt fate. Come on KG, get over to your November group and post roll. The freedom that you can enjoy if you just seize it will be life-changing.

Only you can want it bad enough for you though. Do you want it bad enough to give quitting 100% effort? Get over there and post roll, that's the start. There are almost a dozen posts already on your intro and you haven't even posted roll. Just imagine what the support will look like when we know you're serious...
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KodiakGrizzly on August 06, 2015, 04:43:00 PM
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: KingNothing on August 06, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Nicely done! Here's your group: topic/11248831/109/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11248831/109/#new)

There are instructions on that page that I posted for another fellow new quitter about 20 minutes ago. Let's get it done!
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: techalum on August 06, 2015, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Awesome news KG. Welcome to the Novembros.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: techalum on August 06, 2015, 05:11:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Awesome news KG. Welcome to the Novembros.
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: pab1964 on August 06, 2015, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: techalum
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Awesome news KG. Welcome to the Novembros.
Way to be the man! I quit with you today my friend!
Title: Re: Intro and White Patch
Post by: Thenyyankeefan on August 06, 2015, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: techalum
Quote from: KodiakGrizzly
I wasn't going to post roll until I totally quit all nicotine products - I've done that now - so now I can honestly post roll.
Awesome news KG. Welcome to the Novembros.
Way to be the man! I quit with you today my friend!
Great to hear Kodiak! Proud to be quit with you today. :) Get some numbers from your quit group and veterans, in case you need them.