KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: dunwit on December 27, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
-
Hello everyone. My name is Jim...or dunwit I suppose. (As in done with this shit). I am 45 now and I started chewing at 20 I think. I have had my share of unsuccessful attempts at quitting and finally this time I am done. This time it is not an attempt, it is a quit. I quit on 12/17/13. I have lingered around here lately reading and finding motivation in everyone's stories. This is really a fantastic web site!! Anyway, as I approach 2 weeks I am feeling pretty good. The fog hit me really hard but shows signs of clearing lately. So I know I have to start posting roll and I will. With my new clear mind I thought I would figure it out this morning. Cutting and pasting is not my area but I was ready to go through the motions. Then, uh-oh, a surprise number system in what would be my March group.? Is there anything I would do different now? Pick a #? Just a little confused but we will get there. Thanks for being here. Who doesn't love a quitter? Newbie Brother Jim. (dunwit)
-
Hello everyone. My name is Jim...or dunwit I suppose. (As in done with this shit). I am 45 now and I started chewing at 20 I think. I have had my share of unsuccessful attempts at quitting and finally this time I am done. This time it is not an attempt, it is a quit. I quit on 12/17/13. I have lingered around here lately reading and finding motivation in everyone's stories. This is really a fantastic web site!! Anyway, as I approach 2 weeks I am feeling pretty good. The fog hit me really hard but shows signs of clearing lately. So I know I have to start posting roll and I will. With my new clear mind I thought I would figure it out this morning. Cutting and pasting is not my area but I was ready to go through the motions. Then, uh-oh, a surprise number system in what would be my March group.? Is there anything I would do different now? Pick a #? Just a little confused but we will get there. Thanks for being here. Who doesn't love a quitter? Newbie Brother Jim. (dunwit)
Its all good man.
If you mess up roll, that effects us. The important part is writing your name down and promising that you won't use nicotine today. Sure, you can promise to the mirror each day. But who will hold you accountable?
Don't stress about the number system. Just post roll.
In fact, I'll copy this over there and get you some friends to help ya.
-
Hello everyone. My name is Jim...or dunwit I suppose. (As in done with this shit). I am 45 now and I started chewing at 20 I think. I have had my share of unsuccessful attempts at quitting and finally this time I am done. This time it is not an attempt, it is a quit. I quit on 12/17/13.  I have lingered around here lately reading and finding motivation in everyone's stories. This is really a fantastic web site!! Anyway, as I approach 2 weeks I am feeling pretty good. The fog hit me really hard but shows signs of clearing lately. So I know I have to start posting roll and I will. With my new clear mind I thought I would figure it out this morning. Cutting and pasting is not my area but I was ready to go through the motions. Then, uh-oh, a surprise number system in what would be my March group.? Is there anything I would do different now? Pick a #? Just a little confused but we will get there. Thanks for being here. Who doesn't love a quitter? Newbie Brother Jim. (dunwit)
Its all good man.
If you mess up roll, that effects us. The important part is writing your name down and promising that you won't use nicotine today. Sure, you can promise to the mirror each day. But who will hold you accountable?
Don't stress about the number system. Just post roll.
In fact, I'll copy this over there and get you some friends to help ya.
Drink the Kool-Aid and hit up roll.
If you have been reading and studying around here that long you know exactly how the program works.
You can either be balls deep in the prom queen or sitting in the corner jerking off by your self.
-
Dude... You'll find REAL motivation being a part of this community instead of a voyeur. Welcome in bro...
-
Congrats on making a great choice, Dunwit! Post roll, read all you can, and live free. You got this, brother!!!
-
Hello everyone. My name is Jim...or dunwit I suppose. (As in done with this shit). I am 45 now and I started chewing at 20 I think. I have had my share of unsuccessful attempts at quitting and finally this time I am done. This time it is not an attempt, it is a quit. I quit on 12/17/13. I have lingered around here lately reading and finding motivation in everyone's stories. This is really a fantastic web site!! Anyway, as I approach 2 weeks I am feeling pretty good. The fog hit me really hard but shows signs of clearing lately. So I know I have to start posting roll and I will. With my new clear mind I thought I would figure it out this morning. Cutting and pasting is not my area but I was ready to go through the motions. Then, uh-oh, a surprise number system in what would be my March group.? Is there anything I would do different now? Pick a #? Just a little confused but we will get there. Thanks for being here. Who doesn't love a quitter? Newbie Brother Jim. (dunwit)
Welcome Jim ... I'm a Jim too. I started quitting for the last time in Aug. It is good to have you here with us. Follow the rules and post everyday my new friends and keep it real. If you need help yell loud and we will all come running. This is your big step now take those tiny steps one by one and one day at a time. Just promise to be quit one day and then let the next day take care of it's self. Today BearHawk (Jim that's Me) is quit 135 days and just make it that one day and then the next will be there and you promise just to quit that one and so on as they come. Believe me it works. I fought it at first ... because of the fog but now I am so glad I stuck it out. Again Welcome and look forward to hearing from you.
-
Thanks guys for the words. Just the feeling of not being alone in this battle is priceless! Also, with a little help behind the scenes, posting roll appears to be something I can handle...Such a dumb-ass sometimes.
-
Thanks guys for the words. Just the feeling of not being alone in this battle is priceless! Also, with a little help behind the scenes, posting roll appears to be something I can handle...Such a dumb-ass sometimes.
Nah, not a dumb ass. :ph43r: . Just foggy.
welcome to the funny farm.
If you see anyone approaching with a white jacket with buckles on it.
RUN...........................
-
Thanks guys for the words. Just the feeling of not being alone in this battle is priceless! Also, with a little help behind the scenes, posting roll appears to be something I can handle...Such a dumb-ass sometimes.
Nah, not a dumb ass. :ph43r: . Just foggy.
welcome to the funny farm.
If you see anyone approaching with a white jacket with buckles on it.
RUN...........................
Welcome,
Jim....your name is Jim.....
ok enough of my geek check. remember to yell to anyone here if you need anything.
the white jacket might be for either me in Oct12 Madmen or the Nov12 Asylum.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's. My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter. Anyway I had a thought today. Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct? Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked. In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this? I am not looking for or offering excuses. Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's. My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter. Anyway I had a thought today. Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct? Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked. In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this? I am not looking for or offering excuses. Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's. My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter. Anyway I had a thought today. Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked. In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this? I am not looking for or offering excuses. Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
Thanks for smelling what the Rock is cooking. Some are "addictive personalities" Dunwit is just wondering why. Again not an excuse...Actually it gives me more motivation. BTW....My mother died at 37.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's. My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter. Anyway I had a thought today. Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked. In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this? I am not looking for or offering excuses. Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's.  My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter.  Anyway I had a thought today.  Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked.  In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this?  I am not looking for or offering excuses.  Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html)
Here's another one worth reading.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's.  My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter.  Anyway I had a thought today.  Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked.  In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this?  I am not looking for or offering excuses.  Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html)
Here's another one worth reading.
Grizz, I just had that one to link! Regardless of what "got us here" the only way out is ODAAT no?
-
So many choose to live for themselves and in return will watch their families grow. I love these stories and they will forever motivate me and many others I am sure. You all, in my opinion, are the most kick ass people I have never met. With March 2014 I have a pretty bad ass group...but it is the collective that will trump all. I, dunwit, imho, was born an addict. NO FUCKIN EXCUSES!!! I got this...WE got this....truth is people do die from tobacco. Mom for sure would have been proud of me, of this...of all of us. Jimbo
PS My mother would have been a great grandma.
-
Thanks and YES Ginet. ODAAT. No argument here
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's.  My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter.  Anyway I had a thought today.  Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked.  In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this?  I am not looking for or offering excuses.  Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html)
Here's another one worth reading.
Grizz, I just had that one to link! Regardless of what "got us here" the only way out is ODAAT no?
Yeah. No excuses. Just great education. I have nieces and nephews who I know for a fact were born addicts as recently as a few years ago.
I had no idea it was this severe if a problem. I'm glad dunwit brought the issue up for discussion. I'm always open to learning new information. And it explains a lot of things. Luckily my children were not born nic addicts. I do not want my grandchildren to be born nic addicts either.
This just shows me that tobacco/nicotine is the scourge of humanity. Has been for centuries. It's destroying civilizations.
Glad we are quit. Let's stay that way. Like you say Ginet, ODAAT.
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's.  My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter.  Anyway I had a thought today.  Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked.  In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this?  I am not looking for or offering excuses.  Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html)
Here's another one worth reading.
Grizz, I just had that one to link! Regardless of what "got us here" the only way out is ODAAT no?
Yeah. No excuses. Just great education. I have nieces and nephews who I know for a fact were born addicts as recently as a few years ago.
I had no idea it was this severe if a problem. I'm glad dunwit brought the issue up for discussion. I'm always open to learning new information. And it explains a lot of things. Luckily my children were not born nic addicts. I do not want my grandchildren to be born nic addicts either.
This just shows me that tobacco/nicotine is the scourge of humanity. Has been for centuries. It's destroying civilizations.
Glad we are quit. Let's stay that way. Like you say Ginet, ODAAT.
And dunwit, be proud as hell if that 100% roll record. Keep that intact. I don't care who you are if you're 100% your quit is solid.
-
Yep. We have all beat some ass for so many reasons.. I am with all of you; you will always have me on your side. Hate to talk about tomorrow but there is absolutely no other fucking option for dunwit. What would it be? Major cave...NO. One to get by....NO. Jimbo has a plan. Dip is just not a fucking option. It really is that simple. Nic killed mom at 37. Jim is 45, might as well hang around, even if I was born an addict. Just sayin...anything can be done..
-
Hey all...Dunwit here sliding thru the 70's.  My March Iron Men know my name...... just another 100 percent quitter.  Anyway I had a thought today.  Please bear with me here....I am without a doubt addicted to the nic bitch. Was thinking about being an addict to nicotine, once an addict always an addict, correct?  Well here is the deal, while in the womb my mother smoked.  In theory I was born an addict....correct? So when I found tobacco it was awesome?? No biggie...I have and will continue to win this every fuckin day. Any thought out there on this?  I am not looking for or offering excuses.  Just wanna educate myself and if it helps a foggy newby.....To sum it up....I was born addicted to nicotine, I was a P.I.T.A baby (according to dad). I don't know know anything for sure......just thinking aloud.
Your thought has merit. My mom smoked too.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 023446.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/06/030602023446.htm)
I remember reading that in utero and adolescent exposure are both times developmentally when tendency towards addiction can be increased. I'm pretty sure I had both so it stuck in my mind. I think I read this in John Polito's book (can't remember the title right now but it's probably in my intro thread and it's downloadable for free. Rdad in your class referred me to it ) Hats off for learning all you can- that really helped my quit keep going strong. Keep up the good work! PM me if you can't find the book and I can get the title to you.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/LinksBirth.html)
Here's another one worth reading.
Grizz, I just had that one to link! Regardless of what "got us here" the only way out is ODAAT no?
Yeah. No excuses. Just great education. I have nieces and nephews who I know for a fact were born addicts as recently as a few years ago.
I had no idea it was this severe if a problem. I'm glad dunwit brought the issue up for discussion. I'm always open to learning new information. And it explains a lot of things. Luckily my children were not born nic addicts. I do not want my grandchildren to be born nic addicts either.
This just shows me that tobacco/nicotine is the scourge of humanity. Has been for centuries. It's destroying civilizations.
Glad we are quit. Let's stay that way. Like you say Ginet, ODAAT.
And dunwit, be proud as hell if that 100% roll record. Keep that intact. I don't care who you are if you're 100% your quit is solid.
The book brettlees is referring to is "freedom from nicotine- the journey home" for what it's worth, It helped me alot.
-
Hey Dunwit, I know you are still quit cuz you are still a badass 100% poster in our group. Nice! What did you find out about the in the womb stuff? Just curious.
-
Just my two cents. I think some of us are born addicts because of DNA, not because our Mom smoked while we are in the womb.
I imagine a lot of addicts' moms smoked while they were in the womb...because they were addicts also. They passed the trait along via the DNA double helix...not through the umbilical cord.
-
Just my two cents. I think some of us are born addicts because of DNA, not because our Mom smoked while we are in the womb.
I imagine a lot of addicts' moms smoked while they were in the womb...because they were addicts also. They passed the trait along via the DNA double helix...not through the umbilical cord.
I think it's simply undeniable that a mother who smokes or ingests nicotine in any form during pregnancy is going to pass that nicotine through the bloodstream, on to the unborn child. In turn making the unborn child physically dependent on nicotine. When the child is born he/she will naturally go through physical withdrawals similar to what we all went through as adults.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/3703.php (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/3703.php)
Not condemning the smoking mothers. Just think it's a plain and simple fact. And it shouldn't be denied. Also, not making excuses for my or our own addict behavior.
So I do think some of us could possibly be born addicts because our mother's smoked while pregnant. Seems logical.
But you raise a whole separate issue with your statement regarding the double helix: Is there a genetic trait for addiction? Honestly, I don't know. And I haven't researched it yet.
Anyway, it can't be a bad thing to learn as much as possible about nicotine addiction.
-
You may have addictive personality traits, but you were never addicted to nicotine until you ingested it.
-
You may have addictive personality traits, but you were never addicted to nicotine until you ingested it.
I'd have to agree. You have the possibility of being born with a dependence if your mother used nicotine while she was pregnant. However, hospitals ween children off of whatever drug/substance they are dependent on in the first few days after they are born. I agree that you're not addicted until you ingest nicotine for yourself after that point.
Addiction is a mental battle. That being said, if you were born addicted, you would have to remember that addiction from the time you were born. I'm fairly certain none of us have memories from our birth.
-
I am digging this intro out and bringing it to the top of the list, all to celebrate 1 full year of kicking ass by Dunwit! He is a true badass with the March Iron Men and I just want to say congrats and enjoy today!
-
I am digging this intro out and bringing it to the top of the list, all to celebrate 1 full year of kicking ass by Dunwit! He is a true badass with the March Iron Men and I just want to say congrats and enjoy today!
Nice Dunwit! Thanks for bringing the Iron Men home on our First Year Free! Rev 2 begins today!
-
Awesome work dunwit! one year from now this is ME. just like you, I got this.
-
I am digging this intro out and bringing it to the top of the list, all to celebrate 1 full year of kicking ass by Dunwit! He is a true badass with the March Iron Men and I just want to say congrats and enjoy today!
Nice Dunwit! Thanks for bringing the Iron Men home on our First Year Free! Rev 2 begins today!
Congrats - NICE job!
-
I thank you guys for the words and support. A year without you all would, I am sure, turned out quite differently. I am quit and I will keep on keeping on with you. March Ironmen 2014. quit like fuck!! :D