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Title: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 11, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
Well here it is day one. I've kicked other habits recently but this one always scared me because it's the longest one I've ever had. I'm a full blown alcoholic and haven't had a drink in 95 days. So if I could get through that, this should be a piece of cake right? Wrong! It's all I did all day long for the past 4 years. Dip, cigarette, dip cigarette, dip cigarette. I was going through a half pack of cigs, and 2 tins of grizzly dark wintergreen a day. Dip was there for me when I was quitting drinking and I kind of have some guilt of giving up something I held onto for dear life when I was going through withdraw from alcohol. Oh lookie lookie another excuse for that nicotine to sneak it's way back in my head. Can you tell I'm craving it as you read this?

Can anyone tell me if I'm supposed to update this on a daily basis or do I put my daily thoughts in my calendar group? Lots of good stuff on here and looking forward to kicking the can!
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: rdad on April 11, 2016, 02:41:00 PM
Welcome to KTC man. The most important thing you need to be focused on is posting your promise with July 2016 everyday. After that , the more you get involved here the better. Make friends, get numbers, weave your web of accountability. I read your last post in July about "what if I screw up and dip or smoke again". Get that thinking out of your head. Quitting was the hardest thing I have ever done and it takes 100% commitment and a never look back there attitude. Close that door. If you leave it open even a crack you will fail. Be a Quitter! If I could do it you can too.

This is your intro brother. Write in it as much as you can. For yourself. But what you write will help others too.
Most importantly though...Post Roll EVERYDAY and then keep that promise No Matter What! One Day at a Time Bro. It works!
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 11, 2016, 03:01:00 PM
is there a a way to subscribe to the threads?
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: Team Quitter on April 11, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: HadEnough44
is there a a way to subscribe to the threads?
I don't think so, but you should see an icon next to any of the threads where you have previously posted. Once you look for it, I'm sure you'll see it.

The amounts of nicotine in your system are significant, and I imagine the withdrawal symptoms will suck for weeks...but it will be worth it on the other side. Get some numbers from your quit group, commit to the quit, and spend some time reading through posts here. As you well know, it's one day at a time.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: gungaro on April 11, 2016, 08:21:00 PM
Welcome to the site Hadenough44. Congrats on choosing to quit. Make sure you post roll every day, it will not only help you, but also others. Reach out to group members too so you can be accountable and support each other.

Good luck
Joe (gungaro)
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: Rawls on April 12, 2016, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: HadEnough44
is there a a way to subscribe to the threads?
You can track....any that you want.
Bottom right corner.
I would suggest to all that they track their own intro page!
Welcome to the sight.
I quit with you today.
Rawls 512
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: kubiackalpha on April 12, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
Welcome! Are you in any 12 step programs for your alcoholism? If so, then you can definitely make it through quitting. Post roll every day. it is our promise to each other and ourselves that we will not use Nic in ANY form. Get plenty of water, a little fruit juice and then some more water. It will make the withdrawals easier to manage ( not saying they wont suck. just easier to manage ). Keep your sponsor on speed dial as always. Get some number of fellow quitters and get the quit on! Congrats on the recent decisions and all your quittings. Your LIFE will be much richer for it.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 12, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
Got stuck in traffic today and took about 2 hours to get to work and I'm still craving a smoke and a dip at the same time. Part of me wants to give in but the other part of me already made roll today with all you guys and my wife. I don't go back on my word but damn I want one right now. It's lunch time here so that's the hardest time for me because I always smoked or chewed right after lunch. The car rides home are a bitch and so was sleeping last night. I could not sleep for the life of me.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: kubiackalpha on April 12, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
If you need the oral fixation satisfied there are numerous Nic and Tobac Free dips. Remember, these cravings only last as long as you give them the power to last. Get a craving immediately distract yourself from it. The more you think about it the stronger the craving is. Don't give it power, it doesn't have power.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 12, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
Calling myself out here as I did in my group. I smoked today and am not happy about it. I couldn't last 2 days but now am committed to kick this habit once and for all. Sorry to let you all down but I'm here to make good changes and move on with this. I've learned my lesson and will take it one day at a time.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: MonsterMedic on April 12, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: HadEnough44
Calling myself out here as I did in my group. I smoked today and am not happy about it. I couldn't last 2 days but now am committed to kick this habit once and for all. Sorry to let you all down but I'm here to make good changes and move on with this. I've learned my lesson and will take it one day at a time.
What's going to be different this time?

You couldn't honor your word before, so why should you believed this time?

Why would you even reach out to someone to just slap them in the face by not taking their advice? Do you realize how much of a dick move that is? You reached out to another quitter who tried to talk you off the ledge and you just shit all over him. What the actual fuck?

Seriously. What the hell, man?

By the way, your short answers to the 3 questions are bullshit. The whole concept of that is to realize that you fucked up and need to figure out what you did wrong and how you're going to avoid that taking place again. I strongly suggest you go back and give better answers.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 12, 2016, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: HadEnough44
Calling myself out here as I did in my group. I smoked today and am not happy about it. I couldn't last 2 days but now am committed to kick this habit once and for all. Sorry to let you all down but I'm here to make good changes and move on with this. I've learned my lesson and will take it one day at a time.
What's going to be different this time?

You couldn't honor your word before, so why should you believed this time?

Why would you even reach out to someone to just slap them in the face by not taking their advice? Do you realize how much of a dick move that is? You reached out to another quitter who tried to talk you off the ledge and you just shit all over him. What the actual fuck?

Seriously. What the hell, man?

By the way, your short answers to the 3 questions are bullshit. The whole concept of that is to realize that you fucked up and need to figure out what you did wrong and how you're going to avoid that taking place again. I strongly suggest you go back and give better answers.
The reason why I believe this time is really the right time takes me back to my alcoholism and drug addiction. I've been an alcoholic longer than I've been addicted to nicotine and I've made it 96 days today without alcohol or drugs. I thought this would be a cake walk because I thought nicotine isn't as bad as alcohol or the other drugs I was abusing. I was in the worst possible shape when I first checked into a rehab. I wasn't headed anywhere but a grave if I didn't stop. Those 21 days in a rehab were just the beginning as my addiction was still waiting for me at the end of that driveway and did it ever jump on my back as soon as I left...but did I pick up? No I didn't and I don't plan on it either. Me using today brought me back to the question of if I picked up so quickly on nicotine what's stopping me from picking up drugs and alcohol again? Well the answer is I have a lot to lose. Now granite drugs and alcohol are not as accepted as nicotine is but it's just as big of an addition (I realize that now.)

I reached out to someone because that's what I was taught in rehab. Do there words help at that moment? Yes they do but in the end I was the guy to pick up that cigarette, and smoke it. Last time I checked a dip or a cigarette just doesn't jump into your hand out of nowhere, it's a choice you make. Not a choice I want to have now or in the near future.


I can appreciate the comments from the community because it really shows that people actually care about this and myself and that I'm not in this alone. You all are a great support group and messing up like I did just goes to show how serious this is taken on this group and now understand there is no room for anything but nicotine free life.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: MonsterMedic on April 12, 2016, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: HadEnough44
Quote from: MonsterEMT
Quote from: HadEnough44
Calling myself out here as I did in my group. I smoked today and am not happy about it. I couldn't last 2 days but now am committed to kick this habit once and for all. Sorry to let you all down but I'm here to make good changes and move on with this. I've learned my lesson and will take it one day at a time.
What's going to be different this time?

You couldn't honor your word before, so why should you believed this time?

Why would you even reach out to someone to just slap them in the face by not taking their advice? Do you realize how much of a dick move that is? You reached out to another quitter who tried to talk you off the ledge and you just shit all over him. What the actual fuck?

Seriously. What the hell, man?

By the way, your short answers to the 3 questions are bullshit. The whole concept of that is to realize that you fucked up and need to figure out what you did wrong and how you're going to avoid that taking place again. I strongly suggest you go back and give better answers.
The reason why I believe this time is really the right time takes me back to my alcoholism and drug addiction. I've been an alcoholic longer than I've been addicted to nicotine and I've made it 96 days today without alcohol or drugs. I thought this would be a cake walk because I thought nicotine isn't as bad as alcohol or the other drugs I was abusing. I was in the worst possible shape when I first checked into a rehab. I wasn't headed anywhere but a grave if I didn't stop. Those 21 days in a rehab were just the beginning as my addiction was still waiting for me at the end of that driveway and did it ever jump on my back as soon as I left...but did I pick up? No I didn't and I don't plan on it either. Me using today brought me back to the question of if I picked up so quickly on nicotine what's stopping me from picking up drugs and alcohol again? Well the answer is I have a lot to lose. Now granite drugs and alcohol are not as accepted as nicotine is but it's just as big of an addition (I realize that now.)

I reached out to someone because that's what I was taught in rehab. Do there words help at that moment? Yes they do but in the end I was the guy to pick up that cigarette, and smoke it. Last time I checked a dip or a cigarette just doesn't jump into your hand out of nowhere, it's a choice you make. Not a choice I want to have now or in the near future.


I can appreciate the comments from the community because it really shows that people actually care about this and myself and that I'm not in this alone. You all are a great support group and messing up like I did just goes to show how serious this is taken on this group and now understand there is no room for anything but nicotine free life.
That's a better explanation than giving three words answers to your group.

I think you'd do well to share this with them, and even expand on it more. Get into WHY you chose to smoke, knowing that you're here to quit. You give your word to quit and then you chose to cave anyway. WHY?

This is stuff you need to share in your group, not just in your intro (though, it's good to have it here, too, so other quitters can benefit from seeing it). It'll help you grow with them and it bonds you all closer together.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 15, 2016, 10:45:00 AM
It's day 3 here and I've come across a road I didn't want to. The sobriety road. I told my sponsor about me quitting dip and smoking. Staying clean and sober for me will always be my number 1 and me trying to cut out smoking and dip is starting to get me to want to start drinking and using again and that is a road I never want to go back on. My sponsor's advice was take one step at a time and that I might be trying to cut out too much at one shot which could cause me to relapse and I don't want that. I posted in roll today as my promise not to use but if me not smoking or dipping is going to jeopardize my sobriety, that's not a chance I'm willing to take. Could I be right that I am trying to take on too much? I mean I don't even have 100 days clean just yet it's a few days away. That will always be my main focus is to stay sober. I'm at a crossroads here where part of me says to come back to trying to quit dip and smoke once I have my sobriety under control....the other part of me is thinking why not kill two birds with one stone? Need your help fellas, hopefully you all can shed some light on something I'm missing but that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: rdad on April 15, 2016, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: HadEnough44
It's day 3 here and I've come across a road I didn't want to. The sobriety road. I told my sponsor about me quitting dip and smoking. Staying clean and sober for me will always be my number 1 and me trying to cut out smoking and dip is starting to get me to want to start drinking and using again and that is a road I never want to go back on. My sponsor's advice was take one step at a time and that I might be trying to cut out too much at one shot which could cause me to relapse and I don't want that. I posted in roll today as my promise not to use but if me not smoking or dipping is going to jeopardize my sobriety, that's not a chance I'm willing to take. Could I be right that I am trying to take on too much? I mean I don't even have 100 days clean just yet it's a few days away. That will always be my main focus is to stay sober. I'm at a crossroads here where part of me says to come back to trying to quit dip and smoke once I have my sobriety under control....the other part of me is thinking why not kill two birds with one stone? Need your help fellas, hopefully you all can shed some light on something I'm missing but that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
What the hell does "starting to get to me" mean? You mean its hard? Well fuck yea its hard. Freedom has its price early on. Why cant you do both? You are not the only quitter here battling multiple addictions. Man up.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: HadEnough44 on April 15, 2016, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: HadEnough44
It's day 3 here and I've come across a road I didn't want to. The sobriety road. I told my sponsor about me quitting dip and smoking. Staying clean and sober for me will always be my number 1 and me trying to cut out smoking and dip is starting to get me to want to start drinking and using again and that is a road I never want to go back on. My sponsor's advice was take one step at a time and that I might be trying to cut out too much at one shot which could cause me to relapse and I don't want that. I posted in roll today as my promise not to use but if me not smoking or dipping is going to jeopardize my sobriety, that's not a chance I'm willing to take. Could I be right that I am trying to take on too much? I mean I don't even have 100 days clean just yet it's a few days away. That will always be my main focus is to stay sober. I'm at a crossroads here where part of me says to come back to trying to quit dip and smoke once I have my sobriety under control....the other part of me is thinking why not kill two birds with one stone? Need your help fellas, hopefully you all can shed some light on something I'm missing but that's pretty much it in a nutshell.
What the hell does "starting to get to me" mean? You mean its hard? Well fuck yea its hard. Freedom has its price early on. Why cant you do both? You are not the only quitter here battling multiple addictions. Man up.
Well said sir, well said.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: kubiackalpha on April 15, 2016, 11:16:00 AM
The same rules of addiction apply no matter what addictive substance it is. I know that for a fact. No one is better or worse than the other. All have that final consequence.....Death. Your terms or on the terms of your addiction? Several dual diagnosed, dual addictions, multiple addictions, co occurring, people in here taking it all on. It seems you are focused on addictions rather than focusing on being clean and sober.
Title: Re: I'm not a quitter, but it's time.
Post by: RDB on April 15, 2016, 12:28:00 PM
If you're looking for permission to leave, you're not going to get it.