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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: DiplessinJax on September 12, 2012, 07:21:00 PM
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Okay - I'm 9 days into my quit. I found this website a year ago but didn't think I needed it to quit. 4 days later I bought another can. I decided last Monday night (Labor Day) as I put the last pinch from my can of Grizzly into my lip that I would quit. I was sitting on the deck around my pool having a cocktail with my wife and said, "Don't give me shit for this one. It's my last." She didn't and said, "Good luck. You can do it if you want to." Well - 9 days later and I'm still Nic free. I found some Smokey Mountain cans that I got a year ago. Still moist and fresh. So I've worked through those when working around the house and having a beer with friends. I know that not drinking is a big help but that's prob not going to happen. Anyway, it's been a bitch but getting better every day. I'll go into more once I figure this site out. Great site by the way. I'm in 100% and will be every day from now on. I want to help others beat the same addiction that I'm going through every day, one day at a time.
What I need is to figure out how to join a group. I want to sign into Roll Call each day, bitch when I need to bitch and support when I need to support. Someone please help me. I'm in the foggy stage of my quit and just can't figure it out. LOL
Thanks and stay committed and strong. Tomorrow will be better if today's a bitch. Just get through today.
Mike
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Dipless,
Check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13) first. There you will find the answers you seek. If not, send me a private message and I'll do what I can.
Dipping is a choice. Make yours.
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Okay - I'm 9 days into my quit. I found this website a year ago but didn't think I needed it to quit. 4 days later I bought another can. I decided last Monday night (Labor Day) as I put the last pinch from my can of Grizzly into my lip that I would quit. I was sitting on the deck around my pool having a cocktail with my wife and said, "Don't give me shit for this one. It's my last." She didn't and said, "Good luck. You can do it if you want to." Well - 9 days later and I'm still Nic free. I found some Smokey Mountain cans that I got a year ago. Still moist and fresh. So I've worked through those when working around the house and having a beer with friends. I know that not drinking is a big help but that's prob not going to happen. Anyway, it's been a bitch but getting better every day. I'll go into more once I figure this site out. Great site by the way. I'm in 100% and will be every day from now on. I want to help others beat the same addiction that I'm going through every day, one day at a time.
What I need is to figure out how to join a group. I want to sign into Roll Call each day, bitch when I need to bitch and support when I need to support. Someone please help me. I'm in the foggy stage of my quit and just can't figure it out. LOL
Thanks and stay committed and strong. Tomorrow will be better if today's a bitch. Just get through today.
Mike
Congrats on the quit..... I am just nort of Jacksonville pm me if you want to exchange numbers
Take what you need leave the rest. Post your promise ever day, and get into chat as much as possible.
Use KTC and pay it forward ever chance you get
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Dipless,
Hello, hope you figured out the roll call, I had a hard time this morning myself. figured it out about 30 mins ago. I'm 3 days quit and still foggy as hell. I am starting to get a little better, Yesterday I forgot to shave, I took a shower and used soap, but completely missed the whole razor thing.
Keep it up and PM me if you need too.
Lawrence
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time.
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.
Jax
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time.
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
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Jax-Thanks for your work.
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax, Bruce and Eric are right! Posting roll early everyday is critical. I you or anyone of us fail to do that we start drifting away and you can go back and look into the past of each group and see the pattern in cavers! There is no personal attact on you just facts from those of us that have been here long enough to recognize a dangerous pattern!
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Bruce and Eric -
Amazing how you both were able to respond without calling out someone's manhood or shitting on what was said. Both points are dead on and exactly what should have been written the first time. You both say your messages weren't directed at me, I don't know how you read those and say they weren't. I'm good with it either way. No sweat off my sack either and I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel at 22 days. That's just where I am, asshole. I'll make it though with or without you personally. Why do you feel the need to speak down to everyone? I posted an informational thread. That's all it was. Do you really believe one of my quit brothers read that and thought, "Damn....DiplessinJax doesn't think it is important to post every day. I think I'm gonna get some Cope and work on it tomorrow." That is fucking ridiculous. I can't get my son to pick up his room but I have the power to make a guy cave? Come on.....really?
This is to everyone. Own your quit. Be a man and stay quit today. Post every fucking day. It's not an option. Stay quit, Bitches.
I'm done with this topic unless you want to PM me. Eric - Don't bother....you are just a prick and not worth pissing me off. Bruce - I do appreciate your last response. You have written some good shit in here before that I've read. Maybe not my style but informative and solid information. I just tend to provide tough love one on one. Not in a group setting. Oh yeah....I'm not looking for my balls to be coddled. I defended myself as you would have. It's that kind of shit that is not needed here. Vet or 22 days quit. We are all MEN!!!! If that happens in a bar, we're rolling right now. I just don't understand how you fucking speak to men like that.
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax - I'm mostly with you here. Thank you for volunteering and putting forth the effort.
Despite these other quitters' motivational strategy, not unlike that of R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket (we remember what happened to him in the movie, right...? These guys would get fragged too. I'd do it myself...), they have a valid point, just not the fucking courtesy to encourage you to edit your post. They just attack. They are clearly full of vitriol. That's got nothing to do with how long they've been quit. I am just as quit as them, just for less days. Being that nasty is a way of life. It's full time. I too, have been a part of something similar VERY early on at this site. Wait til you see what happens when these guys "look me up..."
Here's what I say. Yes, POST FUCKING ROLL. Keep your word. Keep your promise. Post every day, make and keep your promise. Yes, do whatever you can to make sure your post is up there to be counted. Make every effort toward that.
You know what though? If I post roll at 5:30AM Eastern Standard Time at the start of my day, and someone who hasn't figured out how NOT to bump and screw someone up posts at 10:00PM Pacific Time while I am in bed... I wake up to a new day and post for my new day. I'd never know my previous day was erased.
Points being:
1) I do feel you left the "window open" for people to be lax with posting roll in your original post. Had i seen it, i would have immediately suggested you edit it.
2) I do "get it" that you can get bumped. It happens. If I wasn't on this site so much (desktop, iPhone AND iPad) or had the help of lcwb96, I would have been bumped a couple of times in my 30 days.
Don't sweat these guys. They try to motivate and educate through belittling and embarrassment. It's hazing. I know hazing. I was guilty of it. They made a fucking movie about it. Similar tactics nearly drove me away from the site and possibly right back to the can.
Hey, look at the bright side, at least you aren't their spouse or child...
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax - I'm mostly with you here. Thank you for volunteering and putting forth the effort.
Despite these other quitters' motivational strategy, not unlike that of R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket (we remember what happened to him in the movie, right...? These guys would get fragged too. I'd do it myself...), they have a valid point, just not the fucking courtesy to encourage you to edit your post. They just attack. They are clearly full of vitriol. That's got nothing to do with how long they've been quit. I am just as quit as them, just for less days. Being that nasty is a way of life. It's full time. I too, have been a part of something similar VERY early on at this site. Wait til you see what happens when these guys "look me up..."
Here's what I say. Yes, POST FUCKING ROLL. Keep your word. Keep your promise. Post every day, make and keep your promise. Yes, do whatever you can to make sure your post is up there to be counted. Make every effort toward that.
You know what though? If I post roll at 5:30AM Eastern Standard Time at the start of my day, and someone who hasn't figured out how NOT to bump and screw someone up posts at 10:00PM Pacific Time while I am in bed... I wake up to a new day and post for my new day. I'd never know my previous day was erased.
Points being:
1) I do feel you left the "window open" for people to be lax with posting roll in your original post. Had i seen it, i would have immediately suggested you edit it.
2) I do "get it" that you can get bumped. It happens. If I wasn't on this site so much (desktop, iPhone AND iPad) or had the help of lcwb96, I would have been bumped a couple of times in my 30 days.
Don't sweat these guys. They try to motivate and educate through belittling and embarrassment. It's hazing. I know hazing. I was guilty of it. They made a fucking movie about it. Similar tactics nearly drove me away from the site and possibly right back to the can.
Hey, look at the bright side, at least you aren't their spouse or child...
Jesus-tittyfucking-Christ...
'cry'
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax - I'm mostly with you here. Thank you for volunteering and putting forth the effort.
Despite these other quitters' motivational strategy, not unlike that of R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket (we remember what happened to him in the movie, right...? These guys would get fragged too. I'd do it myself...), they have a valid point, just not the fucking courtesy to encourage you to edit your post. They just attack. They are clearly full of vitriol. That's got nothing to do with how long they've been quit. I am just as quit as them, just for less days. Being that nasty is a way of life. It's full time. I too, have been a part of something similar VERY early on at this site. Wait til you see what happens when these guys "look me up..."
Here's what I say. Yes, POST FUCKING ROLL. Keep your word. Keep your promise. Post every day, make and keep your promise. Yes, do whatever you can to make sure your post is up there to be counted. Make every effort toward that.
You know what though? If I post roll at 5:30AM Eastern Standard Time at the start of my day, and someone who hasn't figured out how NOT to bump and screw someone up posts at 10:00PM Pacific Time while I am in bed... I wake up to a new day and post for my new day. I'd never know my previous day was erased.
Points being:
1) I do feel you left the "window open" for people to be lax with posting roll in your original post. Had i seen it, i would have immediately suggested you edit it.
2) I do "get it" that you can get bumped. It happens. If I wasn't on this site so much (desktop, iPhone AND iPad) or had the help of lcwb96, I would have been bumped a couple of times in my 30 days.
Don't sweat these guys. They try to motivate and educate through belittling and embarrassment. It's hazing. I know hazing. I was guilty of it. They made a fucking movie about it. Similar tactics nearly drove me away from the site and possibly right back to the can.
Hey, look at the bright side, at least you aren't their spouse or child...
Right on, boelker. I should have omitted one sentence or just said the Spreadsheet was almost complete. The advice I gave was actually emailed to me by another member (a vet) who said "it's a way to track who posts, not who posts the best." My point in my first reply was meant to say just what you did. PM, make your point and suggest an edit. I would have agreed completely. However I just don't have the Eat Shit gene in me when called out like a fucking child. I'm sure both guys would welcome that type of message and take it in good clean fun. Fuck that! I don't know the well enough.
Funny reply though. Dead issue for me now.
Post roll, Bitches!
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I wanted to let the December Wreckin' Crew know that the spreadsheet is almost done. I've filled in everyone's name and roll through yesterday. I'll add today roll in tomorrow. I sent to JAL for him to tweek, look nice and make accessable. That is beyond my capabilities. If not, I'll figure it out and make it available.Â
It was really sad to see so many guys post roll for over two weeks in a row than just disappear. There's a ton of guys that posted once, maybe twice then they're gone. Fuck them....they didn't want to quit. It's hard to be out here all the time and I guess you/we can't save everyone. It still sucked to see the ones that were steady as can be just go away. I hope they had someone to talk to you call on them for missing.Â
Anyway, I know some of you get bumped. I know I did because my name wasn't on a few of those days and I know I've posted every day since I got here. It's not the end of the world if you posted and didn't get credit. The only think that matters is your quit date and you stay fucking quit, right? We're not giving out prizes for perfect attendance, just TRY to post every day and keep your promise to quit One Day At A Time. Â
That's it for me. I'll get back to you tomorrow and let you know what's going on.Â
Jax
Don't try to post roll, you don't try to quit, you fuckin do it. By posting roll first thing in the morning everyday you take it off the table, unless your spineless little bitch who's word means shit. If your word means something, then make that promise to not use nic every.mother.fucking.day. Period. If you don't, how are suppose to know if you're quit? Hope? I hope to win the lottery, I don't hope to stay quit, I do it, and it starts with posting roll. It's the MAIN aspect of that accountability thing you mentioned. You post roll everyday
Other then that, good job on the spreadsheet.
Gotta agree with Bruce here. The man knows his quit and is dead on. You HAVE to post roll everyday. No exceptions. Call me what you will but I have perfect attendance in my quit and everyone in my group knows it. Fuck, I get pissed if I get bumped. I go back in and correct it as well. I take pride in the fact that I have not, and will not, miss posting roll. That is my fucking word and if I don't take it seriously, tell me who the fuck will? Get that shit squared away in your little mind right now. Wake, post roll, repeat DAILY. That simple and that effective.
QLAFM
Bruce and Eric,
Wow!!!! I can't tell you how motivated I am right now. I just didn't get it straight in my "little mind" but am now "squared away". I am not a "spineless little bitch" and I do post everyday. I own my quit. It is my quit and I've kicked its ass everyday for 22 days. What I've done here is volunteer my time and efforts to help the group with "that accountability thing" I mentioned. You two read into the message and decided it's your job to square me away? No. Bruce read into it, went on his rant then Eric decided I didn't totally understand, so he would help as well. Way to keep us quit, boys. You are both true motivational speakers. Now you both can go fuck yourselves. If you want to get into that type of war, I'm all in and can type curse words and act like a badass too. Truth is, we live in different states and there's not a damn thing you can do beyond hinding behind your keyboard. So instead of trying to intimidate with words, how about sharing your knowledge and not be such a patronizing prick.
I knew it wouldn't be long before this happened.
Now for the truth:
We are all here for the same thing. We are all addicts and we all want to quit. I'm guessing there isn't a group that has gone 100-days and not lost one guy to a cave. That means we are going to have guys give in, cave and leave the group and website. All we can do is ask for their word each day. If they miss a day, I'm not going to write them a nasty note like they just shit on me. If they caved, they shit on themselves and I would like to help them get back on track. I'm really not intersted in making them feel like shit for it. That's obviously not your way. In NO way what-so-ever does that mean I don't believe in posting every day. It is what makes this work and the reason I do it everyday. I was just saying don't beat yourself up because you didn't post before you got to work. Or if you got bumped and didn't make it that day. Explain what happened and post the next day. If you miss two or three in a row, you owe the group an explaination. Get a number and find someone to post for you. It's written everyday and done everyday.
Feel free to respond to this or PM me. I'll even give you my number and address. If you're close enough, we can talk in person. I ain't going anywhere and I'm not hard to find.
Jax
You are missing my point in that you said to the effect that perfect attendance does not matter. To that I say you're dead wrong. Attendance is what keeps you, me, Bruce, and every other person in here quit. Stray from the pack and get eaten, it's that simple. I was making reference to the nonchalant attitude of your post to your fellow quit brethren, not you specifically. I don't have a problem with you, just what you wrote. You have to understand that others do not take their quit as serious as you. If they can read in your post that attendance is not mandatory, how much of a disservice have you done to them? We lead by example; an example of unrelenting passion to stay quit and honoring our word on a daily basis. I am not here to trade internet bully messages, I was offering my perspective on what you wrote and how it looks from another vantage point. If you fail to see that point, you will also fail to help keep your group united. Take it from people who have seen more than their share fall of the wagon. It hurts all of us when someone, regardless of what group they belong to, cave. That is the above all point being made. Good to see you have some anger and rage in you, use it to inspire your group and motivate them to own their quit the way you do yours.
Don't try to reinvent the wheel after 22 days either. This place works because of many facets, not every one of those works for everyone, take what you need, leave the rest. You don't have to like me or my attitude, I could give a fuck, it's no sweat off my sack.
You obviously took this personally, like Eric, it was directed at you, just your attitude towards posting towards your brothers. Any "vet" would tell you the same thing, post roll everyday, peroid, there's no arguement over that. If you don't understand why, then you don't understand why you are here. I'm not an internet bully, but I'm not here to coddle your balls either.
People will slowly start to fade out, the weak will fail and the strong will continue, this happens in every group. Instead of accepting that as a fact, try and help those who are spotty in their roll call attendence, you could actually help someone stay quit.
Jax, Bruce and Eric are right! Posting roll early everyday is critical. I you or anyone of us fail to do that we start drifting away and you can go back and look into the past of each group and see the pattern in cavers! There is no personal attact on you just facts from those of us that have been here long enough to recognize a dangerous pattern!
Perfectly said, WT. You managed to say exactly what you wanted without insulting me.
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I've gone through anxiety, rage, cravings, sleepless nights, and triggers. All sucked but nowhere near knocking me off the tracks. The last few days I've felt like I'm always a little sweaty and sticky. The back of my forehead neck is alwyas moist and my back and shoulders feel the same way. Is this another stage of the quit? It's not like it is messing with me or making me want to chew. It's more of a nuesance than anything else. I do live in Florida and the humdity is a little high but this seems different.
Your thoughts are welcomed.
Thx
Jax
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I've gone through anxiety, rage, cravings, sleepless nights, and triggers. All sucked but nowhere near knocking me off the tracks. The last few days I've felt like I'm always a little sweaty and sticky. The back of my forehead neck is alwyas moist and my back and shoulders feel the same way. Is this another stage of the quit? It's not like it is messing with me or making me want to chew. It's more of a nuesance than anything else. I do live in Florida and the humdity is a little high but this seems different.
Your thoughts are welcomed.
Thx
Jax
The best way to explain is this is fog and funk but it really should not be still hitting you this late......
My best advise is to stay cool brother and by keeping cool you will remain focused and strong in your quit!
Avoid the triggers which will seem to multiply for some reason but your resolve and determination will win the day, then, do it all again tomorrow!
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I don't know, but is sorta sounds like anxiety/nerves to me. And sweating generally is a withdrawal symtom I think...at least it is in the movies. So, my knee-jerk reaction to something as general as this would be to chalk it up as the fog. Check it out with your doctor if it persists. But I would bet you have nothing to worry about.
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The back of my forehead neck is alwyas moist and my back and shoulders feel the same way.
Jax,
Seriously, if you can feel the back of your forehead and you notice that it's moist, GO TO THE DOCTOR, cause your brain leaked out and your hand is inside your skull!!!!!! Holy shiit man, don't touch that thing!
There, problem solved!
Dozer
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The back of my forehead neck is alwyas moist and my back and shoulders feel the same way.
Jax,
Seriously, if you can feel the back of your forehead and you notice that it's moist, GO TO THE DOCTOR, cause your brain leaked out and your hand is inside your skull!!!!!! Holy shiit man, don't touch that thing!
There, problem solved!
Dozer
I was waiting for someone to catch that. That is funny! At least I know you're reading it.
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Hey, I live in Florida too, and I m just getting over a terrible flu. I've had it for 2 weeks, it's actually what prompted me to quit. The tobaccy was making me stay sick. So I think the flu as been going around here in FL.
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The back of my forehead neck is alwyas moist and my back and shoulders feel the same way.
Jax,
Seriously, if you can feel the back of your forehead and you notice that it's moist, GO TO THE DOCTOR, cause your brain leaked out and your hand is inside your skull!!!!!! Holy shiit man, don't touch that thing!
There, problem solved!
Dozer
I was waiting for someone to catch that. That is funny! At least I know you're reading it.
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Just keep tabs on it, but probably nothing. My body went through sone major changes when I quit. Sweats, hot flashes, chills all kinds of crazy shit. If it really worries you go get a physical to make sure your blood pressure etc. are ok.
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Just keep tabs on it, but probably nothing. My body went through sone major changes when I quit. Sweats, hot flashes, chills all kinds of crazy shit. If it really worries you go get a physical to make sure your blood pressure etc. are ok.
Pretty sure it's menopause 'winker'
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Hey, I live in Florida too, and I m just getting over a terrible flu. I've had it for 2 weeks, it's actually what prompted me to quit. The tobaccy was making me stay sick. So I think the flu as been going around here in FL.
Yeah....me too. I'm sure it's a vicious combo of antibiotics and the quit. I have a physical scheduled for Friday. I'll bring it up then.
Thx for the reply.
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Here I am at Day 71. Feeling good although I had a rough day yesterday with some fog issues and a constant feeling of pissed off. Thank god I work from home and travel. If I was in a cube yesterday, I would have gotten fired for sure.
Not sure who will read this but I've chatted with a couple of new guys the last two days and figure they may stumble across this. It gets easier......a lot easier. Everyone is different but the fog lifted for me somewhere between 25 and 30-days. I think that is a little longer than most. I was functional when I needed to be but given the chance to space.....I was zoned out walking in circles not knowing what the fuck I was going to do. Hilarious to think about now. I literally thought I was going crazy. This site and the support it provides is the only way I could have made it to 71 days. I/we all still have work to do each and every day, but it will get easier. The fog takes longer breaks but what I've found is that we can not let our guard down and think we're all better and somehow cured. That's when you'll think a dip looks good and just one won't mean anything. I'm good. I'll never buy a can again. Trust me.....you will as soon as your ass gets in the car. You'll Nija dip until you get caught then you'll go back to dipping in front of your family. Fuck I hate myself for that.
For the new guys, tell everyone you know and will listen that you are quit. Tell them about this site and how you are done, one day at a time. Ask for their support and to hold you accountable. Everyone knows I'm quit and now after 10-weeks, they don't even ask me about it. It's like I've always been quit. And I always had a dip in.
Thanks for reading if you still are. I'm going to try to add to this evey so often. Maybe again at 90-days if the good Lord lets me.
Stay quit bitches!!!!
DiplessinJax
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Here I am at Day 71. Feeling good although I had a rough day yesterday with some fog issues and a constant feeling of pissed off. Thank god I work from home and travel. If I was in a cube yesterday, I would have gotten fired for sure.
Not sure who will read this but I've chatted with a couple of new guys the last two days and figure they may stumble across this. It gets easier......a lot easier. Everyone is different but the fog lifted for me somewhere between 25 and 30-days. I think that is a little longer than most. I was functional when I needed to be but given the chance to space.....I was zoned out walking in circles not knowing what the fuck I was going to do. Hilarious to think about now. I literally thought I was going crazy. This site and the support it provides is the only way I could have made it to 71 days. I/we all still have work to do each and every day, but it will get easier. The fog takes longer breaks but what I've found is that we can not let our guard down and think we're all better and somehow cured. That's when you'll think a dip looks good and just one won't mean anything. I'm good. I'll never buy a can again. Trust me.....you will as soon as your ass gets in the car. You'll Nija dip until you get caught then you'll go back to dipping in front of your family. Fuck I hate myself for that.
For the new guys, tell everyone you know and will listen that you are quit. Tell them about this site and how you are done, one day at a time. Ask for their support and to hold you accountable. Everyone knows I'm quit and now after 10-weeks, they don't even ask me about it. It's like I've always been quit. And I always had a dip in.
Thanks for reading if you still are. I'm going to try to add to this evey so often. Maybe again at 90-days if the good Lord lets me.
Stay quit bitches!!!!
DiplessinJax
Mike
Keep up the good work brother! Your quit helps my quit stay strong! I am truly proud to be in this with you!!
~Kuss
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Here I am at Day 71. Feeling good although I had a rough day yesterday with some fog issues and a constant feeling of pissed off. Thank god I work from home and travel. If I was in a cube yesterday, I would have gotten fired for sure.
Not sure who will read this but I've chatted with a couple of new guys the last two days and figure they may stumble across this. It gets easier......a lot easier. Everyone is different but the fog lifted for me somewhere between 25 and 30-days. I think that is a little longer than most. I was functional when I needed to be but given the chance to space.....I was zoned out walking in circles not knowing what the fuck I was going to do. Hilarious to think about now. I literally thought I was going crazy. This site and the support it provides is the only way I could have made it to 71 days. I/we all still have work to do each and every day, but it will get easier. The fog takes longer breaks but what I've found is that we can not let our guard down and think we're all better and somehow cured. That's when you'll think a dip looks good and just one won't mean anything. I'm good. I'll never buy a can again. Trust me.....you will as soon as your ass gets in the car. You'll Nija dip until you get caught then you'll go back to dipping in front of your family. Fuck I hate myself for that.
For the new guys, tell everyone you know and will listen that you are quit. Tell them about this site and how you are done, one day at a time. Ask for their support and to hold you accountable. Everyone knows I'm quit and now after 10-weeks, they don't even ask me about it. It's like I've always been quit. And I always had a dip in.
Thanks for reading if you still are. I'm going to try to add to this evey so often. Maybe again at 90-days if the good Lord lets me.
Stay quit bitches!!!!
DiplessinJax
dude that is real writing right there. thanks for sharing.
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Here I sit at day 86 of my quit. My quit is good and my quit is strong. I gave thanks last week for my new family of quitters that have blessed my life and give me the strength to be quit every day. I give thanks to my immediate family that supports me every day.
Today is a sad day for me and I didn't know where to express how I was feeling so I figured I would come here. Today is the one year anniversary of my father's passing. I give thanks for every day I had with him.....even the bad days before he left us. He was my hero. A man that never missed a day of work. A man that cared for my mother for several years before she passed. A man that taught me how to compete and be better than I thought I could be. With few words he could say what takes me forever to get across. As I've referred to him so many times. He was John Wayne in my life. There was nothing he couldn't do. I watched him hit balls out of park when coaching my brothers teams when he was in his late 30's. He did it with my teams when he was in his mid 40's. No shit.....looked at one pitch, second pitch dead center, half way up the light pole. John Freaking Wayne I'm telling you.
I miss him rolling into the house after church with his travel mug of coffee, sitting on the couch and breaking down my son's baseball game from the previous day....Or about his Doctor's appointments the previous week in great detail. Then, all of a sudden, he'd stand up and say, "Well. I gotta go." And off into the sunset he'd walk.....so to speak. He was funny with a dry sense of humor. I didn't see that side too much until my mom passed. I am so glad I did. He love his grandkids, my wife who took care of him several times while I was out of town. Most of all, he loved my son, Drew. He never missed a ball game and was so proud of him. I miss debating hitting philosopy with him like it was religion. Well, it's pretty close to that in our house. I miss him sitting on my back deck watching a Steelers game, drinking a couple of Rolling Rocks, falling asleep and as the Steelers score, him popping his head up and saying, "Yeah.....Big Ben!!!!" Then looking around giggling a little with his eyes all red.
I think I'm going to try to let the sad go for a while and just give thanks for the 45 wonderful years I got to spend with him. I'll drink a couple Rocks and think about him hitting home runs, calling pitches from the stands when I was in High School, trying to teach me to change the oil in my car while I stood in the drive way dribbling a baskeball and shooting hoops, letting me slide the first time I came home drunk and my mother was asleep in her chair. The next day making me do 4 or 5 hours of yard work in the FL heat. Well played, dad.
Most of all I will think about how proud he would be of me for my quit. He quit smoking, cold turkey, when he was around 44. Never looked back and never had another cig. He was an original Rock Star, quit Gladiator. I'll quit with and for him today.
If you're reading this. Thank you for listening. I'm starting to feel better.
DiplessinJax
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Here I sit at day 86 of my quit. My quit is good and my quit is strong. I gave thanks last week for my new family of quitters that have blessed my life and give me the strength to be quit every day. I give thanks to my immediate family that supports me every day.
Today is a sad day for me and I didn't know where to express how I was feeling so I figured I would come here. Today is the one year anniversary of my father's passing. I give thanks for every day I had with him.....even the bad days before he left us. He was my hero. A man that never missed a day of work. A man that cared for my mother for several years before she passed. A man that taught me how to compete and be better than I thought I could be. With few words he could say what takes me forever to get across. As I've referred to him so many times. He was John Wayne in my life. There was nothing he couldn't do. I watched him hit balls out of park when coaching my brothers teams when he was in his late 30's. He did it with my teams when he was in his mid 40's. No shit.....looked at one pitch, second pitch dead center, half way up the light pole. John Freaking Wayne I'm telling you.
I miss him rolling into the house after church with his travel mug of coffee, sitting on the couch and breaking down my son's baseball game from the previous day....Or about his Doctor's appointments the previous week in great detail. Then, all of a sudden, he'd stand up and say, "Well. I gotta go." And off into the sunset he'd walk.....so to speak. He was funny with a dry sense of humor. I didn't see that side too much until my mom passed. I am so glad I did. He love his grandkids, my wife who took care of him several times while I was out of town. Most of all, he loved my son, Drew. He never missed a ball game and was so proud of him. I miss debating hitting philosopy with him like it was religion. Well, it's pretty close to that in our house. I miss him sitting on my back deck watching a Steelers game, drinking a couple of Rolling Rocks, falling asleep and as the Steelers score, him popping his head up and saying, "Yeah.....Big Ben!!!!" Then looking around giggling a little with his eyes all red.
I think I'm going to try to let the sad go for a while and just give thanks for the 45 wonderful years I got to spend with him. I'll drink a couple Rocks and think about him hitting home runs, calling pitches from the stands when I was in High School, trying to teach me to change the oil in my car while I stood in the drive way dribbling a baskeball and shooting hoops, letting me slide the first time I came home drunk and my mother was asleep in her chair. The next day making me do 4 or 5 hours of yard work in the FL heat. Well played, dad.
Most of all I will think about how proud he would be of me for my quit. He quit smoking, cold turkey, when he was around 44. Never looked back and never had another cig. He was an original Rock Star, quit Gladiator. I'll quit with and for him today.
If you're reading this. Thank you for listening. I'm starting to feel better.
DiplessinJax
THX for sharing. Sorry your father's life was cut short like that. My father's life was cut short due to cancer but he did live to be 61. Hopefully our lives won't be cut short like that since we can chosen to take the healthy road and quit!!!
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Thanks for writing that Man, it was excellent.
I am fortunate to still have both of my folks here today, and it has been one of my biggest fears in life to lose them.
My mothers Dad, my grandfather is a World War 2 vet, was on a ship in the Harbor when it was bombed, and part of Casablanca etc. Anyway, we are watching him fade away as I type this. Its sad to watch, and hard to deal with. The circle of life can be very rough.
Sorry I went off on your post, but wanted to thank you for writing that, and for the support you have given me in the past.
I am sorry for the loss of your father, and I am sure he would be damn proud of you for tackling your addiction.
I am quit with you today bro!
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Here I sit at day 86 of my quit. My quit is good and my quit is strong. I gave thanks last week for my new family of quitters that have blessed my life and give me the strength to be quit every day. I give thanks to my immediate family that supports me every day.
Today is a sad day for me and I didn't know where to express how I was feeling so I figured I would come here. Today is the one year anniversary of my father's passing. I give thanks for every day I had with him.....even the bad days before he left us. He was my hero. A man that never missed a day of work. A man that cared for my mother for several years before she passed. A man that taught me how to compete and be better than I thought I could be. With few words he could say what takes me forever to get across. As I've referred to him so many times. He was John Wayne in my life. There was nothing he couldn't do. I watched him hit balls out of park when coaching my brothers teams when he was in his late 30's. He did it with my teams when he was in his mid 40's. No shit.....looked at one pitch, second pitch dead center, half way up the light pole. John Freaking Wayne I'm telling you.
I miss him rolling into the house after church with his travel mug of coffee, sitting on the couch and breaking down my son's baseball game from the previous day....Or about his Doctor's appointments the previous week in great detail. Then, all of a sudden, he'd stand up and say, "Well. I gotta go." And off into the sunset he'd walk.....so to speak. He was funny with a dry sense of humor. I didn't see that side too much until my mom passed. I am so glad I did. He love his grandkids, my wife who took care of him several times while I was out of town. Most of all, he loved my son, Drew. He never missed a ball game and was so proud of him. I miss debating hitting philosopy with him like it was religion. Well, it's pretty close to that in our house. I miss him sitting on my back deck watching a Steelers game, drinking a couple of Rolling Rocks, falling asleep and as the Steelers score, him popping his head up and saying, "Yeah.....Big Ben!!!!" Then looking around giggling a little with his eyes all red.
I think I'm going to try to let the sad go for a while and just give thanks for the 45 wonderful years I got to spend with him. I'll drink a couple Rocks and think about him hitting home runs, calling pitches from the stands when I was in High School, trying to teach me to change the oil in my car while I stood in the drive way dribbling a baskeball and shooting hoops, letting me slide the first time I came home drunk and my mother was asleep in her chair. The next day making me do 4 or 5 hours of yard work in the FL heat. Well played, dad.
Most of all I will think about how proud he would be of me for my quit. He quit smoking, cold turkey, when he was around 44. Never looked back and never had another cig. He was an original Rock Star, quit Gladiator. I'll quit with and for him today.
If you're reading this. Thank you for listening. I'm starting to feel better.
DiplessinJax
Awesome story man. I too have a rock star dad. Actually my step dad. He taught me everything, taught me to fish, taught me to think about things around me. Led me to be in the field I am today. As awesome as John Wayne, he quit smoking cold turkey also. Never looked back. Wish I coulda learned from him. As he was quitting I was just getting started. 23 yrs later we can now be quit together. Thanks for sharing, I'll quit with Jax anyday, including today.
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Here is to you and your dad sir.
Peter Gabriel - Father Son
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMEuJmz3CU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMEuJmz3CU)
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Here is to you and your dad sir.
Peter Gabriel - Father Son
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMEuJmz3CU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PMEuJmz3CU)
razd - Thank you very much. I'll keep that link saved and send to my brother.
Thank you all for all of your supprt and very kind words. They mean so much to me. It's really overwhelming. God bless you all.
Mike
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Great story, Mike. Glad you shared. Aren't Dads the best? All the things they have taught us. I am fortunate to still have my Dad around, but wish we could see each other more often.
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I'm starting a new topic because this rant doesn't need to be in my intro.
What happens at 100 days that makes so many quitters decide to stop posting? 100 days isn't a magical date that your body says, "Yep. I'll never ask you for nicotine again. Go about your life crave free. Get hammered with all your old dipping buddies and I'll never lean in and ask for just one because your hard working ass deserves it."
I post in a few of the Dec groups as well as 7 or 8 others. I notice when a group turns a year, there's not not as many posts. Two years there is half of what there was at a year. Anything beyond that is a small card game with 4 to 6 quitters pledging to each other. How fucking hard is it to go to the website that kept you clean for over 3 months and promise to your TEAM, if you will, that you won't use today and I'm hear to help if your day turns bad and the bitch starts sweet talking you? I use team because for the first time since college, I truly feel like I'm part of something that is so much bigger than me. The bond and camaraderie that has developed between myself and so many other quitters, not only from my group but others that have been quit a month longer to 4 years longer than me is incredible. I need this to fight my demons every day. You hold me accountable for my quit as I do you.
My problem is, what can we do? I don't have everyone's number so I can't text them all. I can PM, as I've been doing but, if they're not posting, they're not reading their PM's.
I don't know. I'm just really frustrated about this. You never think it's going to happen to your group. Brothers forever, right? I guess I should take solice in the fact that I've met so many great quitters that I call friends and text or chat with on an almost daily basis. "Use what you need and leave the rest behind." I get that saying now. I suppose I'm looking for a little more, "pay it forward."
Thanks for reading and letting me get that out.
Diplessinjax - 135 - See you tomorrow.
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I'm starting a new topic because this rant doesn't need to be in my intro.
What happens at 100 days that makes so many quitters decide to stop posting? 100 days isn't a magical date that your body says, "Yep. I'll never ask you for nicotine again. Go about your life crave free. Get hammered with all your old dipping buddies and I'll never lean in and ask for just one because your hard working ass deserves it."
I post in a few of the Dec groups as well as 7 or 8 others. I notice when a group turns a year, there's not not as many posts. Two years there is half of what there was at a year. Anything beyond that is a small card game with 4 to 6 quitters pledging to each other. How fucking hard is it to go to the website that kept you clean for over 3 months and promise to your TEAM, if you will, that you won't use today and I'm hear to help if your day turns bad and the bitch starts sweet talking you? I use team because for the first time since college, I truly feel like I'm part of something that is so much bigger than me. The bond and camaraderie that has developed between myself and so many other quitters, not only from my group but others that have been quit a month longer to 4 years longer than me is incredible. I need this to fight my demons every day. You hold me accountable for my quit as I do you.
My problem is, what can we do? I don't have everyone's number so I can't text them all. I can PM, as I've been doing but, if they're not posting, they're not reading their PM's.
I don't know. I'm just really frustrated about this. You never think it's going to happen to your group. Brothers forever, right? I guess I should take solice in the fact that I've met so many great quitters that I call friends and text or chat with on an almost daily basis. "Use what you need and leave the rest behind." I get that saying now. I suppose I'm looking for a little more, "pay it forward."
Thanks for reading and letting me get that out.
Diplessinjax - 135 - See you tomorrow.
well said ....
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I'm starting a new topic because this rant doesn't need to be in my intro.Â
What happens at 100 days that makes so many quitters decide to stop posting? 100 days isn't a magical date that your body says, "Yep. I'll never ask you for nicotine again. Go about your life crave free. Get hammered with all your old dipping buddies and I'll never lean in and ask for just one because your hard working ass deserves it."Â
I post in a few of the Dec groups as well as 7 or 8 others. I notice when a group turns a year, there's not not as many posts. Two years there is half of what there was at a year. Anything beyond that is a small card game with 4 to 6 quitters pledging to each other. How fucking hard is it to go to the website that kept you clean for over 3 months and promise to your TEAM, if you will, that you won't use today and I'm hear to help if your day turns bad and the bitch starts sweet talking you? I use team because for the first time since college, I truly feel like I'm part of something that is so much bigger than me. The bond and camaraderie that has developed between myself and so many other quitters, not only from my group but others that have been quit a month longer to 4 years longer than me is incredible. I need this to fight my demons every day. You hold me accountable for my quit as I do you.Â
My problem is, what can we do? I don't have everyone's number so I can't text them all. I can PM, as I've been doing but, if they're not posting, they're not reading their PM's.Â
I don't know. I'm just really frustrated about this. You never think it's going to happen to your group. Brothers forever, right? I guess I should take solice in the fact that I've met so many great quitters that I call friends and text or chat with on an almost daily basis. "Use what you need and leave the rest behind." I get that saying now. I suppose I'm looking for a little more, "pay it forward."Â
Thanks for reading and letting me get that out.Â
Diplessinjax - 135 - See you tomorrow.
well said ....
x2.
Dipless, there are some groups that run strong beyond 100 days. To me, its ALL about the camaraderie you build during the first 100 days (both on and off the board). The more you can get involved, and get others involved (paying it forward is great, but I am talking about general chatter as well), the better you will be able to keep em coming back. Basically, the more folks get it the more they stick around.
Some just dont get it. They want to be cured, and they have "broken the habit" of chewing. They dont truly believe or understand exactly what it means to be an addict, and while they may say the words they are just that - words.
They forgot day 1. They forgot the first week. They forgot the countless stories from cavers that start with "I quit posting roll" and they say things like "coming to the site was the only thing that reminded me of dipping."
It is very aggravating to see brothers (and sisters) begin to drift and fade. You cant save em all, but when I notice someone close to my quit (May 11 brothers, anyone who was active in our group, groups I post with, etc) drifting, I begin the text/pm parade.
Ultimately, we cant quit for them so its important to always remember to protect your own quit first and foremost. Dont let the fact those you thought would be here with you daily are now drifting and "too busy" to post deviate you from your approach. Me, I posted today and I am quit today. Same as the past 723 days. Longest I have been quit since I started, despite more attempts than I can count.
why mess with success?
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I'm starting a new topic because this rant doesn't need to be in my intro.Â
What happens at 100 days that makes so many quitters decide to stop posting? 100 days isn't a magical date that your body says, "Yep. I'll never ask you for nicotine again. Go about your life crave free. Get hammered with all your old dipping buddies and I'll never lean in and ask for just one because your hard working ass deserves it."Â
I post in a few of the Dec groups as well as 7 or 8 others. I notice when a group turns a year, there's not not as many posts. Two years there is half of what there was at a year. Anything beyond that is a small card game with 4 to 6 quitters pledging to each other. How fucking hard is it to go to the website that kept you clean for over 3 months and promise to your TEAM, if you will, that you won't use today and I'm hear to help if your day turns bad and the bitch starts sweet talking you? I use team because for the first time since college, I truly feel like I'm part of something that is so much bigger than me. The bond and camaraderie that has developed between myself and so many other quitters, not only from my group but others that have been quit a month longer to 4 years longer than me is incredible. I need this to fight my demons every day. You hold me accountable for my quit as I do you.Â
My problem is, what can we do? I don't have everyone's number so I can't text them all. I can PM, as I've been doing but, if they're not posting, they're not reading their PM's.Â
I don't know. I'm just really frustrated about this. You never think it's going to happen to your group. Brothers forever, right? I guess I should take solice in the fact that I've met so many great quitters that I call friends and text or chat with on an almost daily basis. "Use what you need and leave the rest behind." I get that saying now. I suppose I'm looking for a little more, "pay it forward."Â
Thanks for reading and letting me get that out.Â
Diplessinjax - 135 - See you tomorrow.
well said ....
x2.
Dipless, there are some groups that run strong beyond 100 days. To me, its ALL about the camaraderie you build during the first 100 days (both on and off the board). The more you can get involved, and get others involved (paying it forward is great, but I am talking about general chatter as well), the better you will be able to keep em coming back. Basically, the more folks get it the more they stick around.
Some just dont get it. They want to be cured, and they have "broken the habit" of chewing. They dont truly believe or understand exactly what it means to be an addict, and while they may say the words they are just that - words.
They forgot day 1. They forgot the first week. They forgot the countless stories from cavers that start with "I quit posting roll" and they say things like "coming to the site was the only thing that reminded me of dipping."
It is very aggravating to see brothers (and sisters) begin to drift and fade. You cant save em all, but when I notice someone close to my quit (May 11 brothers, anyone who was active in our group, groups I post with, etc) drifting, I begin the text/pm parade.
Ultimately, we cant quit for them so its important to always remember to protect your own quit first and foremost. Dont let the fact those you thought would be here with you daily are now drifting and "too busy" to post deviate you from your approach. Me, I posted today and I am quit today. Same as the past 723 days. Longest I have been quit since I started, despite more attempts than I can count.
why mess with success?
I hear the frustration in Dip's note. I get it. Josh hits it on the head though. Protect your own quit. I think of it more as when you get together with your college buddies or HS buddies. There is still the friendship there but we have other priorities in life other than watching 4 sportscenters and skipping class. Its not that we are any less friends and that we werent important to each other at that time. It just people moving on. The KTC is what you make of it. Some choose to put more time in than others. Some choose to Pay it forward longer than others. But we are all still quit in the end!!
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Day 150
It's been a couple months since I've posted in my intro and the last two were sad and more of a PSA to the newbies when I wrote about the anniversary of my father passing and hitting the 70 day fog/doldrums.
Today is day 150 and I feel awesome. Still haven't written my HOF speech yet but I'm thinking I will today. I'm not cured, I can't handle nicotine in any form what so ever for the rest of my life. I am an addict. It's just that simple. I'm not ashamed to say that. I'm proud to be able to say it with a clear consience and knowledge that I must stay focused on my quit every day. I know there are going to be tough times ahead and I'll sink into the fog and even have a craving every so often. I may even have a panic attack when I least expect it. I also know that there will be tough times in my life whether it be family related or work related that will test my resolve as an addict to stay clean, keep my word and not let so many people down that I've let into my life as fellow addicts. I know these tough times will pass and I will use all that I've learned from so many on this site. Dipping is never an option!
This is what keeps me nicotine free every single day. I post roll each morning with the Chew Weckin' Crew of Dec. 2012. I usually post roll in all the pre-HOF groups and a few others with friends I have made along the way. That is my word and I will keep it. "I quit with you today." That is so simple....too simple when I try to explain it to my addict friends that haven't joined yet.
Now, what solidifies my resolve and makes me stronger than I ever thougth I could be are those relationships that I've developed over the past 150-days. I will mention all by name and thank them in my HOF speech that I plan to write today and into tomorrow. It is the hilarious texts we share, pics we share, and problems we share. When we are at our most vulnerable, we share who we are, what we are and how we are feeling with people we may have never met, but trust so much that we are willing to completely open up our souls and let them in to protect and help us. I am here for all of you and I know that I need you to continue my quit one day at a time. That, my friends, is the power of Kill The Can.
Thanks for reading. I quit with all of you today. You make my life better.
Diplessinjax
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Day 150
It's been a couple months since I've posted in my intro and the last two were sad and more of a PSA to the newbies when I wrote about the anniversary of my father passing and hitting the 70 day fog/doldrums.
Today is day 150 and I feel awesome. Still haven't written my HOF speech yet but I'm thinking I will today. I'm not cured, I can't handle nicotine in any form what so ever for the rest of my life. I am an addict. It's just that simple. I'm not ashamed to say that. I'm proud to be able to say it with a clear consience and knowledge that I must stay focused on my quit every day. I know there are going to be tough times ahead and I'll sink into the fog and even have a craving every so often. I may even have a panic attack when I least expect it. I also know that there will be tough times in my life whether it be family related or work related that will test my resolve as an addict to stay clean, keep my word and not let so many people down that I've let into my life as fellow addicts. I know these tough times will pass and I will use all that I've learned from so many on this site. Dipping is never an option!
This is what keeps me nicotine free every single day. I post roll each morning with the Chew Weckin' Crew of Dec. 2012. I usually post roll in all the pre-HOF groups and a few others with friends I have made along the way. That is my word and I will keep it. "I quit with you today." That is so simple....too simple when I try to explain it to my addict friends that haven't joined yet.
Now, what solidifies my resolve and makes me stronger than I ever thougth I could be are those relationships that I've developed over the past 150-days. I will mention all by name and thank them in my HOF speech that I plan to write today and into tomorrow. It is the hilarious texts we share, pics we share, and problems we share. When we are at our most vulnerable, we share who we are, what we are and how we are feeling with people we may have never met, but trust so much that we are willing to completely open up our souls and let them in to protect and help us. I am here for all of you and I know that I need you to continue my quit one day at a time. That, my friends, is the power of Kill The Can.
Thanks for reading. I quit with all of you today. You make my life better.
Diplessinjax
You are one solid dude!
I Quit with you every damn day. Starting again tomorrow!
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bout time for a 1/2 comma update??
'clap'
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bout time for a 1/2 comma update??
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'BanDog'
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Okay - I'm 9 days into my quit. I found this website a year ago but didn't think I needed it to quit. 4 days later I bought another can. I decided last Monday night (Labor Day) as I put the last pinch from my can of Grizzly into my lip that I would quit. I was sitting on the deck around my pool having a cocktail with my wife and said, "Don't give me shit for this one. It's my last." She didn't and said, "Good luck. You can do it if you want to." Well - 9 days later and I'm still Nic free. I found some Smokey Mountain cans that I got a year ago. Still moist and fresh. So I've worked through those when working around the house and having a beer with friends. I know that not drinking is a big help but that's prob not going to happen. Anyway, it's been a bitch but getting better every day. I'll go into more once I figure this site out. Great site by the way. I'm in 100% and will be every day from now on. I want to help others beat the same addiction that I'm going through every day, one day at a time.
What I need is to figure out how to join a group. I want to sign into Roll Call each day, bitch when I need to bitch and support when I need to support. Someone please help me. I'm in the foggy stage of my quit and just can't figure it out. LOL
Thanks and stay committed and strong. Tomorrow will be better if today's a bitch. Just get through today.
Mike
1,000 days ago a great man named Mike started a journey at KTC. Here is his first foggy post on the site. Along the way he has helped countless of us that were in a similar state make it past those first few days - and beyond.
Thank you for all that you do, and congratulations on a monumental achievement. It is an honor to quit with you.