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Title: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMann on July 17, 2010, 05:11:00 PM
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now. 2 cans of grizzly straight a day. And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen. I've tried to quit a few times. Once with the gum.... $40 later I still dipped. My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting. My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago. So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago. I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day. So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled. And that's when I found this site. Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was. So maybe this is a great thing. Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip. They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds. Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping. And you wanna know what his response was? "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!" I did not get this..... I didn't listen either. I need to quit.


--matt--
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: klark on July 17, 2010, 05:25:00 PM
Quote from: MattMann
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now. 2 cans of grizzly straight a day. And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen. I've tried to quit a few times. Once with the gum.... $40 later I still dipped. My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting. My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago. So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago. I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day. So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled. And that's when I found this site. Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was. So maybe this is a great thing. Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip. They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds. Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping. And you wanna know what his response was? "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!" I did not get this..... I didn't listen either. I need to quit.


--matt--
Matt, go here and post roll. index.php?showtopic=3519 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3519)

Read everything you can and get ready, it's not easy but it's totally worth it.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Ready on July 17, 2010, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: klark
Quote from: MattMann
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now.  2 cans of grizzly straight a day.  And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen.  I've tried to quit a few times.  Once with the gum....  $40 later I still dipped.  My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting.  My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago.  So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago.  I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day.  So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled.  And that's when I found this site.  Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was.  So maybe this is a great thing.  Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip.  They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds.  Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping.  And you wanna know what his response was?  "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!"  I did not get this.....  I didn't listen either.  I need to quit. 


--matt--
Matt, go here and post roll. index.php?showtopic=3519 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=3519)

Read everything you can and get ready, it's not easy but it's totally worth it.
Welcome
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: minuteofangle on July 17, 2010, 05:33:00 PM
Congratulations on a great decision, Here are some helpful tips:
1) Make this about you! Quit for yourself.
2) Get your mind right, do not "try" or "attempt" to quit. Just fucking gut it out and do it.
3) We have all been where you are now. I will not shit you your life will suck for the next few days. Read " What to expect when you quit."
4) You will find that every member on here will wade through a mile of shit to help you, but ultimately it is up to you and you alone.
5) read read read and read the site again. Educate yourself about your addiction and how US Tobacco has played you like a fucking tool your whole life. Get mad and refuse to give those fuck tards another dime.
6) Post roll every day in October and KEEP YOUR WORD. 1 day at a time.
7) Avoid alcohol for a few weeks. You are more likely to cave if your are liquored up.
8) There is a direct coorelation between how active you are on the site and success.
9) This shit is for real. Fight it and it will get easier.
10) The guys here are all about tough love. If you cant handle being called a stupid fuck or similar names go find "Quit For Pussies" web site (Ask for TFurr).
Welcome brother. MOA
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMann on July 17, 2010, 05:43:00 PM
Well.....Thanx everyone.....I guess having support is going to be nice. But today I quit dip......and that's where I stand.


--matt--
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MikeA on July 17, 2010, 06:10:00 PM
Quote from: MattMann
Well.....Thanx everyone.....I guess having support is going to be nice. But today I quit dip......and that's where I stand.


--matt--
I quit with you today also. 1 day at a time
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Fungohitter on July 17, 2010, 11:58:00 PM
Quote from: MattMann
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now. 2 cans of grizzly straight a day. And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen. I've tried to quit a few times. Once with the gum.... $40 later I still dipped. My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting. My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago. So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago. I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day. So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled. And that's when I found this site. Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was. So maybe this is a great thing. Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip. They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds. Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping. And you wanna know what his response was? "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!" I did not get this..... I didn't listen either. I need to quit.


--matt--
Matt-

congrats on your decision. check wal-mart for smokey mountain fake dip.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: CoachDoc on July 18, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
Quote from: MattMann
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now. 2 cans of grizzly straight a day. And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen. I've tried to quit a few times. Once with the gum.... $40 later I still dipped. My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting. My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago. So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago. I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day. So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled. And that's when I found this site. Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was. So maybe this is a great thing. Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip. They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds. Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping. And you wanna know what his response was? "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!" I did not get this..... I didn't listen either. I need to quit.


--matt--
As everyone before me has said, you have made a GOOD decision...never forget that. Especially when you start doubting yourself, your desire to quit, your will-power and your resolve. Trust me, you will doubt these things and a lot more. Think of the sneakiest, most controlling, gold-digging, most decietful, uncaring, selfish woman you can imagine and then add a ton to it and that is what the so-called "Nic Bitch" is.

As also was said, if you want to be successful, don't fight the system that is in place here - there are a lot of quitters that started out just like you and are well into 100s, 200s, 500s, even over a thousand days of quit. You'll see the frequent "quitter" that gets on here, bucks the system, thinks he knows how HE needs to quit and basically tells the site that he doesn't need it...and gives up. Don't be that guy. The word QUIT is a verb, meaning it is an action word...you have to take action, be active to be quit. Stay involoved in the site...post everything...how you are feeling, when you are having a tough time, when you are going to be on the road...all that stuff. And read....you can learn a lot simply from seeing what others have gone through and experienced...and how they have dealt with it. Get numbers of brothers/sisters on here in order to contact them when you are feeling like caving, or just to check in if you or they havent posted roll for the day yet.

Above all, post roll every day as early as you can and KEEP YOUR WORD. By posting roll you make a promise not only to yourself, but to each and every member on this site that you WILL NOT DIP FOR THAT DAY. We aren't asking you to commit to a promise to staying quit for life...just one day at a time...one roll post at a time. As long as yuo have integrity and your word means something, you wil get along around here just fine.

Welcome to the suck...welcome to your quit. Welcome to the best decision you could have made.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Dr. Bruce Banner on July 18, 2010, 02:24:00 PM
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
Well I've been dipping for about 10-11 years now.  2 cans of grizzly straight a day.  And before that it was 2 cans of skoal wintergreen.  I've tried to quit a few times.  Once with the gum....  $40 later I still dipped.  My wife always wanted me to quit, but never supported me quitting.  My mom died of lung cancer a little under 2 years ago.  So I need to quit.
And it just hit me a couple hours ago.  I have to quit.....and for some reason I decided today was the day.  So after I through that can away, and put my spitter in the trash, I googled.  And that's when I found this site.  Never been part of any support group, never really thought that there were other people out there addicted quite like I was.  So maybe this is a great thing.  Maybe I can really quit this time.
But it's funny after I joined this site, I ran down to the store to get me some sunflower seeds, and maybe some fake dip.  They didn't have any faux dip, but I did get some sunflower seeds.  Back to the story, I ran into a really good old friend of mine and was explaining to him that today I was going to quit dipping.  And you wanna know what his response was?  "Why quit, it's the only bad habit that you have!"  I did not get this.....  I didn't listen either.  I need to quit. 


--matt--
As everyone before me has said, you have made a GOOD decision...never forget that. Especially when you start doubting yourself, your desire to quit, your will-power and your resolve. Trust me, you will doubt these things and a lot more. Think of the sneakiest, most controlling, gold-digging, most decietful, uncaring, selfish woman you can imagine and then add a ton to it and that is what the so-called "Nic Bitch" is.

As also was said, if you want to be successful, don't fight the system that is in place here - there are a lot of quitters that started out just like you and are well into 100s, 200s, 500s, even over a thousand days of quit. You'll see the frequent "quitter" that gets on here, bucks the system, thinks he knows how HE needs to quit and basically tells the site that he doesn't need it...and gives up. Don't be that guy. The word QUIT is a verb, meaning it is an action word...you have to take action, be active to be quit. Stay involoved in the site...post everything...how you are feeling, when you are having a tough time, when you are going to be on the road...all that stuff. And read....you can learn a lot simply from seeing what others have gone through and experienced...and how they have dealt with it. Get numbers of brothers/sisters on here in order to contact them when you are feeling like caving, or just to check in if you or they havent posted roll for the day yet.

Above all, post roll every day as early as you can and KEEP YOUR WORD. By posting roll you make a promise not only to yourself, but to each and every member on this site that you WILL NOT DIP FOR THAT DAY. We aren't asking you to commit to a promise to staying quit for life...just one day at a time...one roll post at a time. As long as yuo have integrity and your word means something, you wil get along around here just fine.

Welcome to the suck...welcome to your quit. Welcome to the best decision you could have made.
what CoachDoc said!!!!!

Mattman....can you be a Man of your word? You can do anything for just one day...even quit. That's all we are asking, give your word that for today you will not beg buy bum or steal anything with nicotine in it and put it in any orafice on your body including skin fallicilles.... then repeat tomorrow. Don't worry about tomorrow, focus on today.

Welcome, shout out if you need anything!
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMann on July 18, 2010, 03:17:00 PM
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!!


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad... But I was never into the mint things. So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit. But too late now..


--matt--
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: CoachDoc on July 18, 2010, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Dr. Bruce Banner on July 18, 2010, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
you need it like another hole in the head.... drink lots of water, cranberry juice anything without caffieene in it to help flush your system.

I used gobstopper candy jaw breakers and jolly ranchers...the sugar helped keep my mood from the violent swings and helped keep the crave to a dull roar

Three days and the nicotine is out of your body, the rest is just a mind game...

one more thing... don't go to the gas station for your supplies for awhile, head to the grocery store instead...it's cheaper for one and two you don't have to stare down the cancer rack
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMann on July 18, 2010, 10:02:00 PM
Well right now, is seriously the worst yet. I actually have the shakes.....blurry vision, and I can't seem to think....It's been about 28-30 hours since my last dip...And after 2 cans of dip a day for so long......my body is telling me that it misses it.....But i am doing okay. I will live to pledge another day...

--matt--
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: chewie on July 19, 2010, 08:42:00 AM
Quote from: MattMann
Well right now, is seriously the worst yet. I actually have the shakes.....blurry vision, and I can't seem to think....It's been about 28-30 hours since my last dip...And after 2 cans of dip a day for so long......my body is telling me that it misses it.....But i am doing okay. I will live to pledge another day...

--matt--
Hang in there dude... you're right on track. It DOES get better... I promise.

You CAN do this!
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: desertvet38 on July 19, 2010, 11:06:00 AM
Congrats! You can do it....and so can all of us... I quit yesterday, after putting that shit in my mouth since I was 17 (i'm 42 now). WE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: john101477 on July 19, 2010, 01:53:00 PM
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MikeA on July 19, 2010, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: kb81 on July 19, 2010, 02:08:00 PM
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Exactly what he said. You NEED to stop romanticizing this stuff and be strong. We are your support group and are here for you. But, quitting is a mindset and the mindset is simple: "I will not dip today." There are many people who come here and leave early as they are spineless SOBs who refuse to do this. Each and everyone of us has the willpower to either 1. Put dip in our mouths or 2. Not put dip in our mouths. It's simple, really. I was a dickhead for the longest time and quite frankly, still am. Just understand we have ALL been where YOU are today.

www.hoochsnuff.com (http://www.hoochsnuff.com)

This stuff is amazing.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: tberge3 on July 19, 2010, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Exactly what he said. You NEED to stop romanticizing this stuff and be strong. We are your support group and are here for you. But, quitting is a mindset and the mindset is simple: "I will not dip today." There are many people who come here and leave early as they are spineless SOBs who refuse to do this. Each and everyone of us has the willpower to either 1. Put dip in our mouths or 2. Not put dip in our mouths. It's simple, really. I was a dickhead for the longest time and quite frankly, still am. Just understand we have ALL been where YOU are today.

www.hoochsnuff.com (http://www.hoochsnuff.com)

This stuff is amazing.

The hooch snuff is pretty good, especially the spitfire. I've been using sour jolly ranchers the last 3 days. They give you a red/blue/green tongue but at least you get to keep it.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: kb81 on July 19, 2010, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: tberge3
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Exactly what he said. You NEED to stop romanticizing this stuff and be strong. We are your support group and are here for you. But, quitting is a mindset and the mindset is simple: "I will not dip today." There are many people who come here and leave early as they are spineless SOBs who refuse to do this. Each and everyone of us has the willpower to either 1. Put dip in our mouths or 2. Not put dip in our mouths. It's simple, really. I was a dickhead for the longest time and quite frankly, still am. Just understand we have ALL been where YOU are today.

www.hoochsnuff.com (http://www.hoochsnuff.com)

This stuff is amazing.

The hooch snuff is pretty good, especially the spitfire. I've been using sour jolly ranchers the last 3 days. They give you a red/blue/green tongue but at least you get to keep it.
tberge3 you FAIL. Learn how to post please. Hit the quote button, then use the top screen to type in whatever it is you're going to type in and then hit submit.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: tberge3 on July 19, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: kb81
Quote from: tberge3
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Exactly what he said. You NEED to stop romanticizing this stuff and be strong. We are your support group and are here for you. But, quitting is a mindset and the mindset is simple: "I will not dip today." There are many people who come here and leave early as they are spineless SOBs who refuse to do this. Each and everyone of us has the willpower to either 1. Put dip in our mouths or 2. Not put dip in our mouths. It's simple, really. I was a dickhead for the longest time and quite frankly, still am. Just understand we have ALL been where YOU are today.

www.hoochsnuff.com (http://www.hoochsnuff.com)

This stuff is amazing.

The hooch snuff is pretty good, especially the spitfire. I've been using sour jolly ranchers the last 3 days. They give you a red/blue/green tongue but at least you get to keep it.
tberge3 you FAIL. Learn how to post please. Hit the quote button, then use the top screen to type in whatever it is you're going to type in and then hit submit.
better to fail at quoting than quiting. think i got it now.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: kb81 on July 19, 2010, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: tberge3
Quote from: kb81
Quote from: tberge3
Quote from: CoachDoc
Quote from: MattMann
DAMNIT I NEED A DIP!!! 


But luckily the store down the street from me had the mint snuff....Ain't bad...  But I was never into the mint things.  So I ordered some hooch from the site.....Should of really thought this about before I quit.  But too late now..


--matt--
Listen up....you don't NEED anything - except air, water, shelter and food. You NEED to get that through your head right now. You NEED to stop thinking in terms of hope, luck, wish, shoulda, coulda, if only, but, maybe, might, etc, etc. That is weak-assed quitting terms that are not allowed on this site. You NEED to stop looking for the magic bullet to kill your addiction/craves/weakness (fake dip). Does than mean don't use it? NO. By all means, use the hell outta the fake dip, seeds, whatever you NEED in order to keep the real shit outta your lip. But quitting isn't about finding a substitute for your nicotine addiction - it is about having the willpower, the fortitude, the integrity, the guts, the BALLS to quit. You NEED to decide if you are a quitting man or not. Anything else you NEED right now? Do you NEED more numbers?
Exactly what he said. You NEED to stop romanticizing this stuff and be strong. We are your support group and are here for you. But, quitting is a mindset and the mindset is simple: "I will not dip today." There are many people who come here and leave early as they are spineless SOBs who refuse to do this. Each and everyone of us has the willpower to either 1. Put dip in our mouths or 2. Not put dip in our mouths. It's simple, really. I was a dickhead for the longest time and quite frankly, still am. Just understand we have ALL been where YOU are today.

www.hoochsnuff.com (http://www.hoochsnuff.com)

This stuff is amazing.

The hooch snuff is pretty good, especially the spitfire. I've been using sour jolly ranchers the last 3 days. They give you a red/blue/green tongue but at least you get to keep it.
tberge3 you FAIL. Learn how to post please. Hit the quote button, then use the top screen to type in whatever it is you're going to type in and then hit submit.
better to fail at quoting than quiting. think i got it now.
LOL giving you a bad time brother. Oh, and YES, NEVER...EVER...EVER fail at quitting. I'm quit w/ you for today and tomorrow....oh, wait, one day at a time. Well, hell, I'm quit w/ you tomorrow anyways :)
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: john101477 on July 19, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MikeA on July 19, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Just be careful, I have a reputation with wives around here....are you on facebook?
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: kb81 on July 19, 2010, 04:59:00 PM
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Just be careful, I have a reputation with wives around here....are you on facebook?
lol
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMann on July 19, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
All I can say is I made it through work today. I was worried cause I spend alot of time in my truck and throwing a fattie in while driving always made it better. But today, I just went with seeds......And it wasn't all that bad. I am not going to miss it one bit. Just took me this long before I got fed up........


--matt--
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: john101477 on July 19, 2010, 06:23:00 PM
Quote from: MattMann
All I can say is I made it through work today. I was worried cause I spend alot of time in my truck and throwing a fattie in while driving always made it better. But today, I just went with seeds......And it wasn't all that bad. I am not going to miss it one bit. Just took me this long before I got fed up........


--matt--
way to go Matt!!! glad you made it through a work day with out the nic bitch askin you to suck her dirty pecker.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: john101477 on July 19, 2010, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Just be careful, I have a reputation with wives around here....are you on facebook?
hahaha you want my facebook and you admit to a rep with wives .... hmmm what type of rep is that lol. gotta love the bouncin boobs for the avatar as well.
Yeah I have a face book but it tends to piss me off more than anything so I only use it to pot pictures. to much drama horse crap on FB and my wife is always on that crap
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MikeA on July 19, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Just be careful, I have a reputation with wives around here....are you on facebook?
hahaha you want my facebook and you admit to a rep with wives .... hmmm what type of rep is that lol. gotta love the bouncin boobs for the avatar as well.
Yeah I have a face book but it tends to piss me off more than anything so I only use it to pot pictures. to much drama horse crap on FB and my wife is always on that crap
Go read my HOF speech and the speech by the bas ass quitter jonnylaw if you want the story.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: RAZD611 on July 19, 2010, 09:19:00 PM
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
Quote from: MikeA
Quote from: john101477
right there with ya man. my wife asked me several times the first day if i wanted her to go get me a can. a few times the second day as well. now with the exception of me being a dick every once in a while she is trying to help the best she can.
You have to be fucking kidding me that your wife asked you if you wanted a can.... seriously, what the fuck?
ohhh yeah very serious but she is better today :D
Just be careful, I have a reputation with wives around here....are you on facebook?
hahaha you want my facebook and you admit to a rep with wives .... hmmm what type of rep is that lol. gotta love the bouncin boobs for the avatar as well.
Yeah I have a face book but it tends to piss me off more than anything so I only use it to pot pictures. to much drama horse crap on FB and my wife is always on that crap
Go read my HOF speech and the speech by the bas ass quitter jonnylaw if you want the story.
I wouldn't let Mike around my cat either. Just saying.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on October 18, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
I've been lurking on here for a week now and waiting for the right tome to make my commitment to never put that crap in my mouth again. Thought "the day" probably needed to be on a Friday, so I would not be at work and in a daze. Well Friday came and I thought of all the things that would be hard to do with a pinch of snuff in my mouth and thought Monday would probably be better. Monday came and went without taking the leap.

Today I realized that NOW is the right time and flushed an almost full can of Cope down the toilet. I AM QUIT.

I took my first dip in the 7th grade. Back then the shit cost less than a dollar. For a long time a can would last me over a week. I could go days without a dip and thought to myself, I'm not addicted and will never be. I can stop anytime I want. Now, 25 years later, the thought of not having that can in my pocket and not having a dip after a meal almost makes me panic!

I know this crap is killing me and costing me almost $2,000 a year not including the $75 a month my employeer is going to start charging me in Jan. for health insurance if I continue to be a user. I don't think the financial factor should me my main reason to quit, but it sure does seem stupid to pay so much for something that is killing me!

So her I am. Already freakin' out a little but determined to be in control.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Bulldawg on October 18, 2011, 01:00:00 PM
You can do it. As cheap as I am, throwing away an almost new can of dip was evidence of my commitment to quit. I am at 150 days and counting. Trust me, the first days are the hardest. Commit to not dipping today, post roll and worry about tomorrow later.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Ready on October 18, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
Welcome.

Check your (Inbox 1) upper right corner of your screen.

Then go post roll.

Keep your word.

Burn your boat...

http://www.johnboe.com/articles/burn_your_boat.html (http://www.johnboe.com/articles/burn_your_boat.html)

You can do this.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: OakPoint on October 18, 2011, 01:21:00 PM
I saw you posted roll. Glad to be quit with you today.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: LLCope on October 18, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
Matt,

Great choice! You won't regret this choice to save your life. One Day at a time--just quit today. Everybody on this site has went through the first 3 or 4 days of Hell--you will make it too. Just keep your word.

Read everything on this site. Educate yourself.



PM me if you need anything.

You got this!
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: davo on October 18, 2011, 03:25:00 PM
Matt,

I am with you today. Repeat.

I am proud to quit with you. It sucks but we have to get through this. We can do it together.

I just came back from the dentist after not being seen for 7 years. It feels good to get my teeth clean of that crap - still some work to do though.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: tillergm on October 18, 2011, 08:08:00 PM
Awesome job flushing that shit. buckle up because the next couple of days are going to be real shitty. I promise it gets better, just take it one day at a time. Dont give yourself an out, stick to your roll call promise not to use for the day. hang in there and keep up your quit.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: Souliman on October 18, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
Quote from: MattMan
Today I realized that NOW is the right time and flushed an almost full can of Cope down the toilet. I AM QUIT.
This is it. This is the fucking power brother. You hang onto this moment. And you repeat every day. And before you know it, you'll have x-ray vision and 32 inch biceps...at least in your mind.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on October 19, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
Thanks for the support guys. It's now been over 24 hours since my last dip. It has probably been over 15 years since I have gone 8 hours without a dip. Can't believe I woke up this morning dreaming about the shit.

Now this may seam really odd. I can feel the symptoms of withdraw. My shoulders back and neck are tense and I have a headache (luckily not terrible). My hands were shaking this morning for a while. Now I'm just having a tough time concentrating and have a small anxiety attack when I reach for the Cope in my pocket and it's not there. Now, here is the odd part. I am in some demented way enjoying or at least appreciating the discomfort I am causing myself.

I don't know exactly what to expect the next 24 hours. I just know it will not include a pinch between my lip and gum.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: LLCope on October 19, 2011, 12:58:00 PM
Keep that attitude--Never AGAIN! Tomorrow when you wake up you will say, "Now it is 48 hours of FREEDOM!" You are doing this!--no looking back!
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: davo on October 19, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
It's totally weird. As hazy as my head is I find new ways to keep myself busy otherwise I start thinking about dip.

The body is healing.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on October 24, 2011, 10:56:00 PM
Goin' to brag on myself a bit.

I was a bit concerned about going into the first weekend without my 'ol buddy Cope. Saturday went to the funeral of a good friends father. Then a 3.5 hour drive (prime dipping time) through beautiful Texas hill-country. No dip, just a lot of sunflower seeds.

Got to my San Antonio for a 5 year old's birthday party. (Imagine, a dozen kids hopped up on sugar). Head out to the patio and all the guys got a fattie in their face and a cold beer in their hand. No dip, but I did have a cold beer.

Next, we headed the JW Marriott Hill Country Resort. Spent the whole day with my wife and daughter at the water park and enjoying weather. In some ways it was good to have a distraction but also hard to think of enjoying anything nicotine free. (FYI - This place is really nice. I'd recommend it to anyone. There was a conference while we were there and all the guests seemed stuffy, but the staff was simply great. My golf game sucks but I understand the 2 courses there a kick ass.)

Another road trip home today. Was glad to see the fake shit I ordered was here waiting on me. Got some Jake's Mint Snuff and Hooch. I like 'em both and feel that they will help curve any cravings.

So, one week done. I realize my 'ol friend Cope was really just a greedy, back-stabbing, bitch that was trying to kill me. Good riddance.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on November 02, 2011, 05:42:00 PM
I just remembered something about the old me; The guy who dipped.

Frequently, I would realize I had a dip in my mouth... and it would surprise me. It was such an automatic thing that there was no conscious thought "I want a dip now". No conscious decision to take the can from my pocket, pull out a little pinch, and stuff the shit in my lip. I guess it's a little like driving to work and not remembering the drive as soon as you got there.

So, this just hit me like a brick wall... I did not even enjoy dipping a lot of the time. I did not even realise I was putting a wad of shit in my mouth. I had no conscious desire for it. What I did have was an addiction. I had me a nic bitch telling me I needed her for everything to be OK.

I have driven to work and not been able to remember how I got there as soon as I put in park --- wondering if I ran any red lights? Same goes for my nicotine addiction.

I'm 2 weeks nicotine free today and I'm loving it. I'm getting prepared for the long haul now. I'm seeing guys show back up in here that were quit for over a year. Guess I'm here to stay... may not be the most active on this site, but I'll not going anywhere.

MattMan

'40'
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: bigsky406 on November 02, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
Quote from: MattMan
I just remembered something about the old me; The guy who dipped.

Frequently, I would realize I had a dip in my mouth... and it would surprise me. It was such an automatic thing that there was no conscious thought "I want a dip now". No conscious decision to take the can from my pocket, pull out a little pinch, and stuff the shit in my lip. I guess it's a little like driving to work and not remembering the drive as soon as you got there.

So, this just hit me like a brick wall... I did not even enjoy dipping a lot of the time. I did not even realise I was putting a wad of shit in my mouth. I had no conscious desire for it. What I did have was an addiction. I had me a nic bitch telling me I needed her for everything to be OK.

I have driven to work and not been able to remember how I got there as soon as I put in park --- wondering if I ran any red lights? Same goes for my nicotine addiction.

I'm 2 weeks nicotine free today and I'm loving it. I'm getting prepared for the long haul now. I'm seeing guys show back up in here that were quit for over a year. Guess I'm here to stay... may not be the most active on this site, but I'll not going anywhere.

MattMan

'40'
Nice fuckin' quit man. I'm nearing the 10-day point and feeling great. I know the vets tell me I'm still in for some shit, but so far I'm pretty fucking thrilled with my quit right now. I'm always thrilled when I do something I that I ALWAYS used to do with a dip in -- reloading ammo, playing foosball, working in the garden, working in the shop, writing on deadline, hunting, hiking, climbing, skiing, etc. -- but without a dip. It's a small victory every time I do one of those activities without the nic bitch, or even without freaking out over the crave. Just battling through and focusing on getting through the activity without the drug is one little step closer to freedom.

Way to go man. Happy to be quit with you.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on November 14, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
Nicotine free 25 days today.

Some times its the little victories that feel so good.

Starting in January, my employer is offering a substantial discount to my health care insurance premium for non-tobacco users. Today I filled out the paperwork related to nicotine use. There were 4 options to pick from (paraphrased):

1. I don't use that shit and I and gunna.
2. I stuff a turd in my lip every time I get a chance. I know it's gunna kill me BUT, I'll think about quitin'
3. I'm a pyromaniac and light shit on fire and suck it into my lungs. I know its gunna kill BUT, I'll think about quitin'.
4. Fuck it. I'm an addict and fuck you for askin'.


It felt really good to be able to check #1 (and then piss in a cup to prove it). Best thing is IÂ’m saving around $100 a month not buying Copenhagen. Now IÂ’ll have another $75 in my pocket every month from my insurance discount.
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on December 10, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
Out of nowhere I have had some of the worst cravings I have had since I have quit. I actually think it's been easier than expected until the past 2 or 3 days. I have read the posts of cravings hitting at a time I would have thought it would be easy sailing. (Today is day 55)

I am strong in my quit but surprised at the intensity of the sudden crave. I have not had any new stress and had a relatively good week. My quit has even got me motivated to get in better shape.

Guess I'm just a bit frustrated that the idea of "just one" or "you deserve it" would even pop into my head.

Sigh............
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: RAZD611 on December 10, 2011, 05:36:00 PM
It won't be the last crave you get by any means.

The difference now is you have the tools to beat them back.

They will eventually get fewer and farther in between.

One day you will get that crave and after a few seconds you will think about it, take a deep breath and go 'crackup' , and by the way nic bitch 'Finger' 'arse' .
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on January 02, 2012, 12:25:00 PM
I started a blog about a month ago. It's really just a place for me to keep track of my ideas and goals. It's nice since I can access it from any computer. The thought of other peolpe viewing it is intriguing, but the blog is really just for me. If no one ever notices it's there, that's OK also.

I did post some new years resolutions on the blog and it involves KTC and my quit, so... I'll share it here.


New Year's Resolutions - 2012

I have made a lot or resolutions in the past that started on January first. (Typically, I'd have an good idea in my head of what my resolution would be well before the approaching new year, and would not start until the new calendar was hung on the wall) My typically resolution of past years has been either 1. Lose weight or 2. Quit dipping or both. You would think at 37 years old and after many years of making the same resolutions, I would have learned that maybe new year's resolutions may not be the best mechanism for goal setting. I think that there is something about the first day of the year that makes these plans fail. Resolutions that require daily work and a high level of attention should not be started on January the first. It seems that after a couple of weeks of maintaining focus and motivation on the new resolution, that novelty of a new year wears off and old habits return. Once the momentum of a new diet is lost (by gaining back 5 of the 10 pounds lost) or relapsing on a nicotine addiction, the resolution that was started on the great day, 1/1/XXXX, lost it's mojo.


This year I quit dipping. After over 20 years of being a slave to the can, I flushed a full can of Copenhagen down the toilet on 10/18/11 and have been nicotine free since. No patch, no pill, no suppository (Confession - I have ate a LOT of sunflower seeds and chew mint leaves) In quitting, I have learned:


1. Don't set a date to begin. If it is worth doing, it's worth doing now.
2. Be accountable. If I say I'm going to do something, JUST DO IT.


So, this year my resolutions are going to be a little different. They are not life changing, they do not require a lot of effort, they simple, quaint, and attainable.


1. State Park - I live 10 minutes from a State Park. I have lived this close for over 3 years and have only visited the park once. Why in the world would I not take advantage of something so close that I really enjoy? In 2012, I will visit the State Park at least 3 times.
2. Read - I already read quite a bit. It is usually (95% of the time) a non-fiction. My bookshelf is full of books that tell me how to do everything from build furniture out of 2X4s to how to train for a marathon. There a books teaching me leadership skills, how to make a million dollars, and how to "get over it". In 2012, I will read a least 3 books that are not non-fiction; books written purely for entertainment.
3. Build something - I have a lot of tools. I have books (see above). In 2012, I will build something and I'll be proud of it.


Here is the accountability part, even it is just to myself.


State Park
Date Visited -
Date Visited -
Date Visited -

Book 1 -
Date started -
Date completed -


Book 2 -
Date started -
Date completed -


Book 3 -
Date started -
Date completed -


What did I build -
Date started -
Date completed -
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: bluebonnetman on January 02, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Quote

I started a blog about a month ago. It's really just a place for me to keep track of my ideas and goals. It's nice since I can access it from any computer. The thought of other peolpe viewing it is intriguing, but the blog is really just for me. If no one ever notices it's there, that's OK also.

I did post some new years resolutions on the blog and it involves KTC and my quit, so... I'll share it here.


New Year's Resolutions - 2012

I have made a lot or resolutions in the past that started on January first.  (Typically, I'd have an good idea in my head of what my resolution would be well before the approaching new year, and would not start until the new calendar was hung on the wall) My typically resolution of past years has been either 1. Lose weight or 2. Quit dipping or both. You would think at 37 years old and after many years of making the same resolutions, I would have learned that maybe new year's resolutions may not be the best mechanism for goal setting. I think that there is something about the first day of the year that makes these plans fail. Resolutions that require daily work and a high level of attention should not be started on January the first. It seems that after a couple of weeks of maintaining focus and motivation on the new resolution,  that novelty of a new year wears off and old habits return.  Once the momentum of a new diet is lost (by gaining back 5 of the 10 pounds lost) or relapsing on a nicotine addiction, the resolution that was started on the great day, 1/1/XXXX, lost it's mojo.


This year I quit dipping. After over 20 years of being a slave to the can, I flushed a full can of Copenhagen down the toilet on 10/18/11 and have been nicotine free since. No patch, no pill, no suppository (Confession -  I have ate a LOT of sunflower seeds and chew mint leaves) In quitting, I have learned:


1. Don't set a date to begin. If it is worth doing, it's worth doing now.
2. Be accountable. If I say I'm going to do something, JUST DO IT.


So, this year my resolutions are going to be a little different. They are not life changing, they do not require a lot of effort, they simple, quaint, and attainable.


1. State Park - I live 10 minutes from a State Park. I have lived this close for over 3 years and have only visited the park once. Why in the world would I not take advantage of something so close that I really enjoy?  In 2012, I will visit the State Park at least 3 times.
2. Read - I already read quite a bit. It is usually (95% of the time) a non-fiction. My bookshelf is full of books that tell me how to do everything from build furniture out of 2X4s to how to train for a marathon. There a books teaching me leadership skills, how to make a million dollars, and how to "get over it".  In 2012, I will read a least 3 books that are not non-fiction; books written purely for entertainment.
3. Build something - I have a lot of tools. I have books (see above). In 2012, I will build something and I'll be proud of it. 


Here is the accountability part, even it is just to myself.


State Park
                Date Visited -
                Date Visited -
                Date Visited -
 
Book 1 -
                Date started -
                Date completed -


Book 2 -
                Date started -
                Date completed -


Book 3 -
                Date started -
                Date completed -


What did I build -
                Date started -
                Date completed -
MattMan - Wow. BEAUTIFUL clarity on your quit, new year's resolutions, and putting things into action. Great encouragement to me today and i'm sure to many other quitters.
Go get 'em!

bluebonnetman
Title: Re: I through a can away about 2 Hours ago
Post by: MattMan on January 20, 2012, 10:43:00 AM
The past couple of week I have found myself in very relaxed, enjoyable situations around someone who was dipping. For example, I was unwinding after a long day at work, the warm January sun felt great with the gentle evening breeze. My daughter laughing and playing in the background... you get the picture.

It was one of those "Life is Good" moments, everything in the world okay. And after months of beeing nicotine free, I think to myself, "I can have just one dip... It's OK... It would make this perfect day even better... I'm in control... It's just one dip... Who will know..."

The thing that stopped me from bumming a dip was the committment I made to you all that morning. I did not want to break my promise. That was really the only thing that stopped me.

I started typing this as a reminder to myself of how important the daily post is. Now, it is even more clear to me that I AM AN ADDICT. I will always be an addict. And as an addict, I'm always vulnerable to returning to the can.