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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Patmeweenie on March 18, 2012, 02:37:00 AM
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Hi my name is Chris
Note: my user name isnt meant in any means to be inappropriate. its just kind of something that stuck with me back from when I played world of warcraft.
Heres something I could use some council for. Ive been dipping for 5 years and Im 19 going on 20. I left my can in the truck tonight so I decided (blank) it. ill just leave it in there. I dont feel like walking outside right now. Which led to an idea sparking in my head, hey?! why not quit? By the way I have seen this site before I actually signed up so I decided to go ahead and try my hand over here at the forums.
Anyway: It seems like every time I've tried to quit I end up going like 2 days and cant take it any more. It would be nice if i had 3 or 4 days in a row just to sit and do nothing but the stress of work tends to drive me over the edge and I have to go buy that can that I promise myself ill quit on. happens about a month or so at a time. Thats why its kind of driving me to desperation because I decided I need to seek council.
The sad part is the fact that I keep getting in this cycle where I decide Ill quit but then just kinda give up on it. The second day really kills me and I work a full 7 days a week so theres really no time for me to sit and relax.
Cancer is also pretty prominent in my families genes and I dont want to be any part of that either.
If anyone can shed some light on my issues or help me figure some stuff out I'd be amazed because im trying to make a conscious effort here to quit or at least reduce my use for right now. i am at 1/2 can a day. i did get it down from can a day by the way (baby steps) it took me quite a while.
Im also to open starting up on using "fake" snuff products so i can still get the oral fixation or whatever the hell its called. if anyone could or would chime in on their use of such things please do.
Thanks again for reading this. i know its pretty long and definitely un organized. i hope to hear back from some folks.
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Hi my name is Chris
Note: my user name isnt meant in any means to be inappropriate. its just kind of something that stuck with me back from when I played world of warcraft.Â
Heres something I could use some council for. Ive been dipping for 5 years and Im 19 going on 20. I left my can in the truck tonight so I decided (blank) it. ill just leave it in there. I dont feel like walking outside right now. Which led to an idea sparking in my head, hey?! why not quit? By the way I have seen this site before I actually signed up so I decided to go ahead and try my hand over here at the forums.
Anyway: It seems like every time I've tried to quit I end up going like 2 days and cant take it any more. It would be nice if i had 3 or 4 days in a row just to sit and do nothing but the stress of work tends to drive me over the edge and I have to go buy that can that I promise myself ill quit on. happens about a month or so at a time. Thats why its kind of driving me to desperation because I decided I need to seek council.
The sad part is the fact that I keep getting in this cycle where I decide Ill quit but then just kinda give up on it. The second day really kills me and I work a full 7 days a week so theres really no time for me to sit and relax.
Cancer is also pretty prominent in my families genes and I dont want to be any part of that either.
If anyone can shed some light on my issues or help me figure some stuff out I'd be amazed because im trying to make a conscious effort here to quit or at least reduce my use for right now. i am at 1/2 can a day. i did get it down from can a day by the way (baby steps) it took me quite a while.
Im also to open starting up on using "fake" snuff products so i can still get the oral fixation or whatever the hell its called. if anyone could or would chime in on their use of such things please do.
Thanks again for reading this. i know its pretty long and definitely un organized. i hope to hear back from some folks.
Quitting chewing tobacco is the best decision I have ever made. This shit is controlling you. I used to misplace my car keys, wallet, iPod, ect, but I ALWAYS knew where my tin was. That is a joke. A drug should never be that important to you. I used to go out of my way to accommodate my addiction. I hid it from loved ones. I spent my hard earned money. I let it dictate my interactions with people. It literally controlled my life more than I did. Now that is pathetic.
In regards to you hitting day 2 and then giving up, that is nicotine telling your body that you need it to function. Guess what? You fucking don't need it man. It is a crutch. If you quit and stay quit, you will be amazed at how capable you really are to rely on yourself rather than a damn leaf.
Around day 2 when it starts getting hard is when you have to fight back the hardest. There are countless quitters on this website that will tell you that it is a nightmare those first few day/weeks, but it WILL get easier. The bottom line is, you have to feel like shit for a while before it gets better, but it really will get better, I promise you that. It will be hard. It makes sense because nothing good in life comes easy. You have to work for it, you have to want it. You have to wake up every day and tell yourself that there is now way that you are using nicotine today. That was the old you. That was something you used to do. That is why we post roll.
BY posting roll every day, we give our word to people that we have never met that we will not use nicotine in any form for that whole day.
Read about why we post roll here : index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
Read about how to post your roll each day here: index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
I suggest that you go out to your trunk and dump that cancer causing plant into the toilet and post your Day 1 here in the June 2012 quit group: index.php?showtopic=6044 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6044)
Let me tell you one more thing, there will never be a better time to take your life back then right now. There will ALWAYS be some sort of excuse that will cause you to delay quitting. I just bought this can, so I might as well finish it, I will quit after my birthday, I will quit after finals because I need it to deal with the stress, I have too much going on in my life right now to stop using, my friend just passed away and I need my chew to deal. There will never be a perfect time to quit. You just have to fucking do it. Period. No more excuses. Start being the one that is in control of your life again. We are all here to help you brother, but you have got to want it.
Now, dump that can out, post that Day 1 in June and change your life. Let's fucking do this!
-Tyler (Tsmith17)
P.S. - If you have any questions, you can send me or anyone on this site a personal message. I KNOW that we will help you. You can also talk about what is going on in your quit in your June 2012 quit group and in this introduction thread you created. Stay quit brother.
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It seems like every time I've tried to quit I end up going like 2 days and cant take it any more. It would be nice if i had 3 or 4 days in a row just to sit and do nothing but the stress of work tends to drive me over the edge and I have to go buy that can that I promise myself ill quit on. happens about a month or so at a time. ... The second day really kills me and I work a full 7 days a week so theres really no time for me to sit and relax.
Still no post in June.
Believe me weenie, your schedule is no more hectic than anyone else on here. You are not that special. You will be special when you jump on board with all the bad ass quiter in KTC. I don't know anyone who sat around relaxing while they began their quit. It is pure hell and the more you keep busy the better. Post Roll, read everything on here. You do that, and you will fly by day 2. Your choice.
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You've found the right place. Register, post roll, read. Reach out and encourage others. You are not special, everyone here has serious shit going on in their lives too, but have decided to beat back the addiction.
You can take back you life.
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Hey teenie weenie...
If you want to quit, you really believe you are done with the crap, then put your word down. You're asking for input. Folks are telling you how to get this done. Smitty laid out the first step. Either do or do not. Otherwise, don't waste our time.
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Chris-
There is no better time to quit then now. In fact there are around 40 other men and women, in the June Platoon, who are staying quit. Come join us. No you are not special. Everyone here has: stress, jobs, kids, wives, bosses, deaths you name it. Yet you are important! Your life matters, and now is the time to take back your life! So throw that shit away, take your life back, and come join me and the others in the June Platoon! Post roll with us brother!
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Are you going to have a full schedule for death too? Because that's where you are headed if you keep dipping my friend.
We have all been where you are. Trying to quit but never getting very far. Hell when I really wanted to quit, before I got here, I'd make it like 18 hours and I'd be buying a tin. There were times I stopped, but it made it easier knowing that one day I'd be going back to the tin of death. Quitting made it seem impossible because I looked at it as forever and not one day at a time,
You're 20 years old with the rest of your life ahead of you and cancer genes coursing through your body possibly. Why play roulette with the tin when you know what can happen? Maybe you might not get it from dipping, but that should not be good enough. You know how you will not get cancer? Quit dipping today and start getting involved in the site. Post roll, come hang out in chat, or the wildcard section.
Worry about the fake stuff and your oral fixation when you finally flush your tin and tell yourself you are quit for good. For good one day a time. They add up. 189 days ago I was in your shoes. This is one of the best and hardest decisions I have ever made. I've had real lows and highs, but I wouldn't change being quit.
PS: If you want to keep dipping, look me up down the line and I'll give you your radiation therapy for the cancer that you have. How's that sound? Just quit and post roll man. This can all be avoided.
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Waste of our time.
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IT was good to see some nice responses on this. As far as the assholes go.. you know who you are. It doesnt help to ridicule me/my username/whatever else.
and as far as talking shit to me about how im not special because I have a full schedule etc... my issue is I drive for a living and I am concerned if I cant keep my head un fogged Ill cause an accident. hope i made that a bit more clear as to why the full schedule thing actually matters (to me)
Anyhow an update: I woke up ate breakfast. decided we were going to have a 'good' day today. Got in the truck and took off.(i dont condone littering but heat of the moment) half way down the road chucked the sonofabitch can out the window. havent bought one since and today went by relatively incident free. right now its kinda foggy for me but also fairly late. just kinda kickin back. considering buying a can of the tobacoless stuff when I wake up so I can have it tomorrow for work to see how that goes. I do respect everyones encouragement and I hope that it helps me. I just want to be able to go a week. If i can go a week I know for sure Im done with it. its just hard to get past the "i need this shit to keep me and my truck on the road"
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Looking for the June thing BTW... Im still trying to figure out this forum layout... its nothing like what ive used before lol.
-edit- i kinda realized i was harsh in that post most likely because its late, im tired. shit like that. sorry.
I see the point people are trying to get across though.
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Looking for the June thing BTW... Im still trying to figure out this forum layout... its nothing like what ive used before lol.
-edit- i kinda realized i was harsh in that post most likely because its late, im tired. shit like that. sorry.
I see the point people are trying to get across though.
You can be as harsh as you want man, as long as you are quit. We can take it. Nice job on posting day 1 in June 2012. You didn't quite do it right.
Watch this video if you haven't already about posting roll:http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Don't sweat it if you can't figure out roll post right away. Your June quit brothers and supporters will make sure it gets fixed. You just have to focus on sticking close to this site and reading as much as you can on this site. The better prepared you are to deal with cravings and triggers, the better your chances of being successful. That being said, if you post roll everyday and your keep your word to stay quit, there is a 100% chance of you being successful in your quit.
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Looking for the June thing BTW... Im still trying to figure out this forum layout... its nothing like what ive used before lol.
-edit- i kinda realized i was harsh in that post most likely because its late, im tired. shit like that. sorry.
I see the point people are trying to get across though.
You can be as harsh as you want man, as long as you are quit. We can take it. Nice job on posting day 1 in June 2012. You didn't quite do it right.
Watch this video if you haven't already about posting roll:http://www.killthecan.org/roll/ (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/)
Don't sweat it if you can't figure out roll post right away. Your June quit brothers and supporters will make sure it gets fixed. You just have to focus on sticking close to this site and reading as much as you can on this site. The better prepared you are to deal with cravings and triggers, the better your chances of being successful. That being said, if you post roll everyday and your keep your word to stay quit, there is a 100% chance of you being successful in your quit.
Thank you! that tutorial deal is bad as hell i like it. Ill be sure to post up on day 2 in that format then. thanks for the help!
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Nice job brother. How are you feeling?
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Im also to open starting up on using "fake" snuff products so i can still get the oral fixation or whatever the hell its called. if anyone could or would chime in on their use of such things please do.
Try coffee grounds. Especially for driving, that's helped me a lot. It helps with fatigue too, which I had a major problem with.
Don't think about tomorrow, next week, or next year. Just think about today. Anyone can quit for one day. DO IT!
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Im also to open starting up on using "fake" snuff products so i can still get the oral fixation or whatever the hell its called. if anyone could or would chime in on their use of such things please do.
Try coffee grounds. Especially for driving, that's helped me a lot. It helps with fatigue too, which I had a major problem with.
Don't think about tomorrow, next week, or next year. Just think about today. Anyone can quit for one day. DO IT!
I have been using the hell out cinnamon toothpicks lately. I forgot how much I liked them. Plus I feel like Clint Eastwood with them in my mouth....
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just kinda kickin back. considering buying a can of the tobacoless stuff when I wake up so I can have it tomorrow for work to see how that goes. I do respect everyones encouragement and I hope that it helps me. I just want to be able to go a week. If i can go a week I know for sure Im done with it. its just hard to get past the "i need this shit to keep me and my truck on the road"
Sir,
I didn't read the other comments that you apparently didn't appreciate regarding your schedule not being a factor, so sorry if I'm plowing old ground. However, your mindset is the most important thing right now.
First, the fake stuff is fine. If it keeps you quit, use it for now. The most important thing is that you do not ingest nicotine.
Second, in order to make sure you don't ingest nicotine, you post roll call here. This is you looking us all in the eye and giving your word as a man that you will not use nicotine for a day. If you're a man of your word, the hardest part of your day will be making that post and giving your word because after that you know nicotine is off the table no matter what happens. I see that you have posted roll, so let's keep it going.
Third, there is no such thing as "being done" with this addiction. Instead of focusing on a week or a year or ten years, just focus on getting through today. We have a guy here who had quit for 15 years and decided one dip wouldn't hurt. Within a week, he was back to the slavery of a can a day of worm dirt.
Fourth, your freedom is worth fighting for. Why on earth would you want to hop in your vehicle every day and need something that costs you five bucks just to maintain an addiction? You do know that nicotine doesn't do anything for you other than make you go into withdrawals if you're not using it, right? If the idea of throwing money away and handing over control of your life to a weed isn't enough to convince you that quitting is the only rational decision to make, then there's always a little thing called cancer to consider. We have quitters here who have been through the surgery.
Fifth, you don't need the sheet to keep you and your truck on the road. That's the addiction talking. You'll be a lot better off once you start doing the talking. For example, you could start each day by saying "there's no fuckin' way I'm ingesting nicotine today and there isn't a thing in the world life could throw at me to make me use."
Welcome to the site and the suck. Things will get better and much easier, but it's not going to be easy right now. Hunker down and keep posting roll. Yell if you need anything.
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Welcome to the site Rubatheweenie. As already stated you definitely made the right (and only) choice. Living.
Make friends, get numbers, go to chat, do whatever you need to do to ensure your quit continues. Focus on the next 5 minutes, or hour if need be and forget about tomorrow.
Come on here and let out some rage. You're going to get irritable, trust me. Don't take it out on your loved ones. We've been through and are going through it with you. So that's what we're here for.
Keep it up man, if I can do it so can you. PM me if you need a number and anythign else.