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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Thomas79 on July 02, 2014, 10:29:00 PM
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
I how you read this to yourself, out loud, and realize how weak it sounds.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
WTF Thomas? When you get serious, come back in here QUIT for real........I just hope it's not to late.
I suggest you reconsider...........the more accountability you have the better.
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KTC works. Simple as that.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
WTF Thomas? When you get serious, come back in here QUIT for real........I just hope it's not to late.
I suggest you reconsider...........the more accountability you have the better.
"Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me"? NEWSFLASH you can never leave it behind you because that Nic Bitch will always be right there waiting to dig her claws back in. "I have a watchful eye while I try"? I know for a fact that brothers here (MY QUIT BROTHERS) reached out to you numerous times over the last few days trying to WATCH OVER YOU. As for the word TRY you know as well as everyone else at KTC that word means jack shit. It means I don't have the balls to actually man up, strap my big girl panties and QUIT. It means you are fine with looking in the mirror one day and seeing that giant hole where your face used to be because you were to much of a Pussy to actually pull that shit out of your face and save your own damn life. KTC works but you never gave it a chance because you never actually wanted to QUIT. You wanted to stop momentarily. If your nuts ever drop and you decide its time to QUIT (hopefully it wont be to late for you) then come back to KTC and take the shame of being a retread. Until then have fun in your little work circle jerk.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
WTF Thomas? When you get serious, come back in here QUIT for real........I just hope it's not to late.
I suggest you reconsider...........the more accountability you have the better.
"Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me"? NEWSFLASH you can never leave it behind you because that Nic Bitch will always be right there waiting to dig her claws back in. "I have a watchful eye while I try"? I know for a fact that brothers here (MY QUIT BROTHERS) reached out to you numerous times over the last few days trying to WATCH OVER YOU. As for the word TRY you know as well as everyone else at KTC that word means jack shit. It means I don't have the balls to actually man up, strap my big girl panties and QUIT. It means you are fine with looking in the mirror one day and seeing that giant hole where your face used to be because you were to much of a Pussy to actually pull that shit out of your face and save your own damn life. KTC works but you never gave it a chance because you never actually wanted to QUIT. You wanted to stop momentarily. If your nuts ever drop and you decide its time to QUIT (hopefully it wont be to late for you) then come back to KTC and take the shame of being a retread. Until then have fun in your little work circle jerk.
Planned caveall over this. Brettles, this is what a bitch actually looks like
bye don't let the door hit ur ass on the way out
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
WTF Thomas? When you get serious, come back in here QUIT for real........I just hope it's not to late.
I suggest you reconsider...........the more accountability you have the better.
"Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me"? NEWSFLASH you can never leave it behind you because that Nic Bitch will always be right there waiting to dig her claws back in. "I have a watchful eye while I try"? I know for a fact that brothers here (MY QUIT BROTHERS) reached out to you numerous times over the last few days trying to WATCH OVER YOU. As for the word TRY you know as well as everyone else at KTC that word means jack shit. It means I don't have the balls to actually man up, strap my big girl panties and QUIT. It means you are fine with looking in the mirror one day and seeing that giant hole where your face used to be because you were to much of a Pussy to actually pull that shit out of your face and save your own damn life. KTC works but you never gave it a chance because you never actually wanted to QUIT. You wanted to stop momentarily. If your nuts ever drop and you decide its time to QUIT (hopefully it wont be to late for you) then come back to KTC and take the shame of being a retread. Until then have fun in your little work circle jerk.
Planned caveall over this. Brettles, this is what a bitch actually looks like
bye don't let the door hit ur ass on the way out
We'll see you back here when you really want to quit. Until then, piss off.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
I questioned making nicotine the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning, yes. These last 4 days clean; since falling off, have put me in so much a better mind set without doing it.
Extaggie Why does not posting here preclude me being serious? Are the millions who quit without this site not serious?
GDubya I am sure it does for many.
bigton Yes, you guys did check on me....that wasn't the problem. I did have a watchful eye here-and that's what I need; however, I don't wish to be consumed with the idea of the addiction, anymore than I was consumed by the addiction itself. In sight-out of mind. Ironically, you mock something that is fundamentally the same as what you're doing here. Furthermore, I now have to face accountability in person.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
I questioned making nicotine the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning, yes. These last 4 days clean; since falling off, have put me in so much a better mind set without doing it.
Extaggie Why does not posting here preclude me being serious? Are the millions who quit without this site not serious?
GDubya I am sure it does for many.
bigton Yes, you guys did check on me....that wasn't the problem. I did have a watchful eye here-and that's what I need; however, I don't wish to be consumed with the idea of the addiction, anymore than I was consumed by the addiction itself. In sight-out of mind. Ironically, you mock something that is fundamentally the same as what you're doing here. Furthermore, I now have to face accountability in person.
You say you don't want to be faced with the addiction every morning or "consumed with the idea of the addiction"...... Tucking the thought of being addicted in the back of your mind without facing it head on is in fact the way an addict would handle it. What happens when you do think about it and you aren't prepared? The purpose of this site is not to think on the addiction first thing and torture ourselves because we cannot use. You use this site as a tool to take the option to use nictoine off the table so you don't have to think about it the rest of the day. You got it all wrong. You just slapped all your Sultan brother's in the face and shit in our house.....What you need before accountability is to realize you are an addict that has an addiction. You must think about that every day. The moment you forget you are an addict is the moment you start slipping.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
I questioned making nicotine the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning, yes. These last 4 days clean; since falling off, have put me in so much a better mind set without doing it.
Extaggie Why does not posting here preclude me being serious? Are the millions who quit without this site not serious?
GDubya I am sure it does for many.
bigton Yes, you guys did check on me....that wasn't the problem. I did have a watchful eye here-and that's what I need; however, I don't wish to be consumed with the idea of the addiction, anymore than I was consumed by the addiction itself. In sight-out of mind. Ironically, you mock something that is fundamentally the same as what you're doing here. Furthermore, I now have to face accountability in person.
You say you don't want to be faced with the addiction every morning or "consumed with the idea of the addiction"...... Tucking the thought of being addicted in the back of your mind without facing it head on is in fact the way an addict would handle it. What happens when you do think about it and you aren't prepared? The purpose of this site is not to think on the addiction first thing and torture ourselves because we cannot use. You use this site as a tool to take the option to use nictoine off the table so you don't have to think about it the rest of the day. You got it all wrong. You just slapped all your Sultan brother's in the face and shit in our house.....What you need before accountability is to realize you are an addict that has an addiction. You must think about that every day. The moment you forget you are an addict is the moment you start slipping.
Excellent response my friend........one that cannot make me do anything but consider these words. It was certainly not my attention to slap anyone in the face here.....
"Tucking the thought of being addicted in the back of your mind without facing it head on is in fact the way an addict would handle it."
Such an impenetrable axiom. I have no choice but to lay prostrate before such destruction of my logic. I concede.......I must retire now, defeated......
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Thomas, what are you still doing here? Want to quit with us? Then shut up and post roll. Don't want to? Then go try your own way. Nobody is going to beg you to stay here. Posting a "goodbye" speech is like taunting us with a loss to nicotine, that is why you have been greeted with such hostility. Post roll or leave, plain and simple.
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What the fuck is this bullshit? Isn't this like your 3rd intro? Didn't you say you were going to quit after the 24th because you were bi-polar and chew leveled you out or some shit like that?
Is this the same Fucking guy?
Now, all the sudden there's a "quit circle" at your work???? Do you think we are Fucking stupid or something? Where the fuck do you work where there is a dip Fucking quit circle? Who leads this circle? What do they know about quitting? What do you guys do exactly in this quit circle? I'm dieing to know. Obviously you guys don't meet first thing in the morning, but when you do finally meet, does the circle talk about addiction or is that just too much for you to handle? Who talks in the circle, anyone? Or do you all just get nose to nose and telepathically communicate with one another. I mean heaven forbid someone say the "A" word, but at least you have "face to face accountability".
A workplace dip quit circle is going to save you and be better than this site and its near 20,000 members... I've heard it all now.
"I must retire now...defeated". That's about the only truthful thing you've said.
You're weak, Thomas...and dumb. People here are trying to help you, but you're too cowardly to follow the advice.
Good luck in your circle jerk off. I'm sure it's just what the doctor ordered.
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KTC isn't for everybody. It's only for those who really want to quit, which this clown clearly doesn't. I'm sure he'll do much better in his work circle where they can all sit around and coddle each other's balls.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
I questioned making nicotine the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning, yes. These last 4 days clean; since falling off, have put me in so much a better mind set without doing it.
Extaggie Why does not posting here preclude me being serious? Are the millions who quit without this site not serious?
GDubya I am sure it does for many.
bigton Yes, you guys did check on me....that wasn't the problem. I did have a watchful eye here-and that's what I need; however, I don't wish to be consumed with the idea of the addiction, anymore than I was consumed by the addiction itself. In sight-out of mind. Ironically, you mock something that is fundamentally the same as what you're doing here. Furthermore, I now have to face accountability in person.
You say you don't want to be faced with the addiction every morning or "consumed with the idea of the addiction"...... Tucking the thought of being addicted in the back of your mind without facing it head on is in fact the way an addict would handle it. What happens when you do think about it and you aren't prepared? The purpose of this site is not to think on the addiction first thing and torture ourselves because we cannot use. You use this site as a tool to take the option to use nictoine off the table so you don't have to think about it the rest of the day. You got it all wrong. You just slapped all your Sultan brother's in the face and shit in our house.....What you need before accountability is to realize you are an addict that has an addiction. You must think about that every day. The moment you forget you are an addict is the moment you start slipping.
Excellent response my friend........one that cannot make me do anything but consider these words. It was certainly not my attention to slap anyone in the face here.....
"Tucking the thought of being addicted in the back of your mind without facing it head on is in fact the way an addict would handle it."
Such an impenetrable axiom. I have no choice but to lay prostrate before such destruction of my logic. I concede.......I must retire now, defeated......
This is one of those moments that since we are not face to face, I cannot tell if you are being sincere or sarcastic. I will assume this was a sincere response.
I have always kept a phrase in my mind since I was a young teenager. Pardon the poor grammar but here it is "everything ain't for everybody". While KTC may not be a good fit for some, it is undeniable that it uses a proven method that works. The method used here has helped thousands quit using nicotine. Is that to say the route we use to maintain our quit is the ONLY way to quit? Absolutely not. I get the feeling that you are somehow trying to attribute your "cave" to the methods we use for accountability. I find it hard to believe that a method used by thousands upon thousands to quit would suddenly contribute to a person using nicotine. I believe what you have going on is the addict part of your brain trying to justify why you caved and is putting the blame on the very thing that will help you stay quit.
I hope for your sake that you stay quit. I know that this method works and I will continue to use it. It is a shame that you are letting your brain be controlled by your addiction and cannot see that you are running away from the very thing that can help you.
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Please lose my number it's reserved for people that are serious about quitting. Pm your adress and I'll send that nickel. I would have had a better chance at winning the lotto.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
This sounds real close to an early quitter I knew a while back. Never could get it together and was "relieved" when he stopped posting roll. I'm sure he was, because the pressure was gone to commit to stop killing yourself... I feel certain he is still cramming it in... Maybe not at a work dip circle, but "happy" to still be dipping.... Sad to lose a brother like that.... All that said you are always welcome here and remember there is always a lot of drama associated with quitting tobacco.
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As others have pointed out....
This is weak fucking sauce.
I WANT to be reminded. Every day. I'm coming up on 3,000 days and I'm STILL just $5 and a bad fucking decision away from a can/day habit for the rest of my life. I often hear "But Chewie, the only time I think about dip is when I'm on the site".
So?
The moment you forget, the moment you think you've got this, is the moment you're fucked.
Hope you'll reconsider.
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What the fuck is this bullshit? I knew his soft ass caved but a fucking farewell announcement? No one will beg...if you ever get serious and stop lying to yourself get in here as a retread.
Fucking softer than baby shit
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I guess I am as confused as everyone else. If you are not going to use the site, then don't use it. Why draw all this attention to yourself by creating this introduction topic? Sounds to me you want back in, but like a lot of cavers you don't want to take the shit for caving. Since you are already getting shit on, why not just jump back in here take your medicine and become a stronger quitter?
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I hope you get the help you need Thomas. KTC is the only thing that has kept me quit in 17 years, included trying to quit with real live people. In my case, once a real live person caved, we all caved.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
I am a Thomas like you. But I am not another "doubting" Thomas.
You doubt you will quit for good.
You doubt this program will teach you what you need to know.
You doubt that a brotherhood of people can hold you accountable.
You even doubt you are an addict.
Your doubts create excuses and addicted minds like excuses, because then they can live with being a coward and failing; because it's not their fault.
I once doubted but had enough hope to trust a group of people to face my fear of breaking up with my mistress, Nicotine for good. 842 days I have quit.
One day, your doubts will make you sick. You will look at that can and realize what a scam she is. Your eyes will open and you will realize that you hate that can of lies. You hate how it rules your life. You hate how you almost worship it. That day you will not doubt your are an addict. You will have an epiphany an admit you are an addict and need help to quit. Then you won't doubt.
Am I wrong? If I am, recruit your work team to get in here and join the fight. If you are accountable to each other, sign your names on a roll and join the brother hood. You can have both. So arm yourself with humility, courage and hope. Then you can join the war and we will battle with you.
Never think you can bullshit addicts. We know addicted bullshit speeches.
You doubt and you and your circle jerk quitting coworkers are going to fail. I'd put a 100 bucks on it that all of you won't make it 100 days. One if not all will surrender to nicotine before 100 days. When the 1st one falls, post with us. If you all make it. PM me and I will send you 100.00.
Do you accept? Your group makes it 100 days, I mail you 100 dollars. One fails and you post roll with us and learn how to quit for good.
Why do I do this. First I know I won't need to send you 100.00 but if I did, I would be okay with that because I may have assisted in preventing UStobacco from killing another Thomas. Not one red penny will I give to UST ever again but I will put cash into getting other people to quit funding that terrorist organization! I would proudly lose this bet but I wont. You're an addict along with your co-workers. They don't have the tools needed to quit.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
I am a Thomas like you. But I am not another "doubting" Thomas.
You doubt you will quit for good.
You doubt this program will teach you what you need to know.
You doubt that a brotherhood of people can hold you accountable.
You even doubt you are an addict.
Your doubts create excuses and addicted minds like excuses, because then they can live with being a coward and failing; because it's not their fault.
I once doubted but had enough hope to trust a group of people to face my fear of breaking up with my mistress, Nicotine for good. 842 days I have quit.
One day, your doubts will make you sick. You will look at that can and realize what a scam she is. Your eyes will open and you will realize that you hate that can of lies. You hate how it rules your life. You hate how you almost worship it. That day you will not doubt your are an addict. You will have an epiphany an admit you are an addict and need help to quit. Then you won't doubt.
Am I wrong? If I am, recruit your work team to get in here and join the fight. If you are accountable to each other, sign your names on a roll and join the brother hood. You can have both. So arm yourself with humility, courage and hope. Then you can join the war and we will battle with you.
Never think you can bullshit addicts. We know addicted bullshit speeches.
You doubt and you and your circle jerk quitting coworkers are going to fail. I'd put a 100 bucks on it that all of you won't make it 100 days. One if not all will surrender to nicotine before 100 days. When the 1st one falls, post with us. If you all make it. PM me and I will send you 100.00.
Do you accept? Your group makes it 100 days, I mail you 100 dollars. One fails and you post roll with us and learn how to quit for good.
Why do I do this. First I know I won't need to send you 100.00 but if I did, I would be okay with that because I may have assisted in preventing UStobacco from killing another Thomas. Not one red penny will I give to UST ever again but I will put cash into getting other people to quit funding that terrorist organization! I would proudly lose this bet but I wont. You're an addict along with your co-workers. They don't have the tools needed to quit.
Blah, blah, blah. More addict talk. Blah, blah, blah. By the way, I have fine tuned a better quit planÂ…blah, blah, blah.
Q: Why are KTC quitters so damn inflexible?
A: Addiction is inflexible.
The Law of Addiction States, “The administration of a drug to a drug addict will reestablish dependence on that drug.” We did not write the law. We do not execute the law. We simply know the law. This means, by using nicotine once, the user either reverts to full-fledged use or must go through the full withdrawal process associated with quitting. Most do not opt for the withdrawal. Withdrawal sux.
I know, this inflexibility is incongruent with our American culture ~ “I'd like the pie heated and I don't want the ice cream on top, I want it on the side, and I'd like strawberry instead of vanilla if you have it, if not then no ice cream just whipped cream but only if it's real; if it's out of the can then nothing.”
“Not even the pie”?
“No, I want the pie, just not heated”.
Here, at KTC, the quit plan is not tweaked for unique and special butterflies. We butterflies conform to the plan. Why? Because our addiction will not conform. Our addiction is unyielding.
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Here, at KTC, the quit plan is not tweaked for unique and special butterflies. We butterflies conform to the plan. Why? Because our addiction will not conform. Our addiction is unyielding.
And there you have it...
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The Law of Addiction States, “The administration of a drug to a drug addict will reestablish dependence on that drug.” We did not write the law. We do not execute the law. We simply know the law. This means, by using nicotine once, the user either reverts to full-fledged use or must go through the full withdrawal process associated with quitting. Most do not opt for the withdrawal. Withdrawal sux.
I think we also need to add into this when we reference it.
We did not write this law, We do not execute it, and We are not ABOVE it.
as it is definitely one that I have seen if we break, it goes back to before the beginning.
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Sigh...
You can do both you know. You never bought into this program to start with did ya?
I questioned making nicotine the first thing on my mind when I woke up in the morning, yes. These last 4 days clean; since falling off, have put me in so much a better mind set without doing it.
Extaggie Why does not posting here preclude me being serious? Are the millions who quit without this site not serious?
GDubya I am sure it does for many.
bigton Yes, you guys did check on me....that wasn't the problem. I did have a watchful eye here-and that's what I need; however, I don't wish to be consumed with the idea of the addiction, anymore than I was consumed by the addiction itself. In sight-out of mind. Ironically, you mock something that is fundamentally the same as what you're doing here. Furthermore, I now have to face accountability in person.
Thomas-
Uhhhh....you're not serious about your quit because you stuffed your face with nicotine! YOU choose to do that. No one put that in your mouth for you. So now you have decided to join a quit circle at work step away from KTC. Why??? If I were serious about quitting, I would root myself with as many quit brothers sisters as I could. Work, online, family, church, etc...
When someone pulls back, that screams of addiction speak. Trust me, stick around u will be able to spot it also.
Etxaggie
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Greetings all;
I have missed roll for the past few days. Truth is, I did something stupid last Saturday(drank), which led me to fall off the wagon once.....promptly leading my to vomit everywhere too; a well deserved result.
Though I have once again been clean since that night, I have been contemplating whether or not I was going to come back here. I have decided to move away from posting roll. Instead, I have joined a quit circle at my work. The accountability is still in my face all the time, and to be honest with you, the mental aspect has improved drastically. Instead of being reminded of an addiction I want to leave behind me first thing in the morning, I have a watchful eye while I try and get back to normal.
I thank all of you for the support, and I apologize for taking so long to post this.
Stay strong friends,
Thomas
Translation
"Ahem...I'd like to begin the press conference by thanking everyone in wasting their time reading this. We will keep this brief, and there will be no questions following.
I was above the 'system'. I had a much better plan. I thought I had this under control, so, even though I had been quit a mere couple of weeks, I decided to forego posting roll because that is for you pussies that are too weak to quit being addicts.
Ignoring the advice to post roll; ignoring the phone numbers that I had; and ignoring the advice to lay off the booze in the early quit, I got plastered and said screw all of you, my brothers in my group, my loved ones and myself by caving. I only did it once, so back off.
I will not do the manly thing, admit my failure, answer the questions and face the consequences by starting over. I'm too good for that. Instead, I have joined a circle jerk at work that will coddle me, tell me everything is ok and not give a crap if I dip or don't dip.
Thank you all for being a bunch of idiotic shmucks that believed in me and cared more about me than I did.
Go 'Finger' yourselves friends,
Thomas"
---- About fixes that.
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I'll just say that if you truly have a support group, and you are quitting then that is awesome. This may not be for you. I can't see how this is to much for somebody who wants to quit though. It's not a tremendous amount of effort required to make such a huge change in your life. It takes what..20 seconds to do roll? To promise me, and all of your fellow ktc'ers that you are going to quit for that day. I can't speak for everyone else here, but as for me, I want you to not leave. I want you to stay and quit with me.
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I'll just say that if you truly have a support group, and you are quitting then that is awesome. This may not be for you. I can't see how this is to much for somebody who wants to quit though. It's not a tremendous amount of effort required to make such a huge change in your life. It takes what..20 seconds to do roll? To promise me, and all of your fellow ktc'ers that you are going to quit for that day. I can't speak for everyone else here, but as for me, I want you to not leave. I want you to stay and quit with me.
I see where you're coming from Landdon, but he doesn't want to be here. He doesn't want to be accountable, he doesn't want to have to answer to anyone, I honestly don't think he wants to quit.
If he doesn't show any "want to" there's no use wasting your time on him. He's taking the weak and easy way out.
Learn from his mistakes and be a strong quitter, buddy. Everything you need is right here, just as it is for Thomas. Whether you choose to use it will.ultimately determine your quits fate.
Don't be a Thomas.
Quit on...
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Hello.
Welcome to KTC improv theater. I'm your host, Wastepanel.
Today, I will be reenacting Thomas' intro thread entitled "Farewell Announcemnt".
Ahem.....
You guys quit? Me too! Shits pants
Me show you how to quit properly!!! Bye!!!!!!! You learn from me now!
Bows, exits stage right. Shakes leg at confused and shaken audience before exiting.
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The moment you forget you are an addict is the moment you start slipping. ..
Some serious KTC kool aid in that statement.
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What the fuck is this bullshit? Isn't this like your 3rd intro? Didn't you say you were going to quit after the 24th because you were bi-polar and chew leveled you out or some shit like that?
Is this the same Fucking guy?
Now, all the sudden there's a "quit circle" at your work???? Do you think we are Fucking stupid or something? Where the fuck do you work where there is a dip Fucking quit circle? Who leads this circle? What do they know about quitting? What do you guys do exactly in this quit circle? I'm dieing to know. Obviously you guys don't meet first thing in the morning, but when you do finally meet, does the circle talk about addiction or is that just too much for you to handle? Who talks in the circle, anyone? Or do you all just get nose to nose and telepathically communicate with one another. I mean heaven forbid someone say the "A" word, but at least you have "face to face accountability".
A workplace dip quit circle is going to save you and be better than this site and its near 20,000 members... I've heard it all now.
"I must retire now...defeated". That's about the only truthful thing you've said.
You're weak, Thomas...and dumb. People here are trying to help you, but you're too cowardly to follow the advice.
Good luck in your circle jerk off. I'm sure it's just what the doctor ordered.
I fucking LOVE Deisel #quitwood #allday
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really?
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Keep fighting my friend! The physical symptoms disappear after 3 days.
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Keep fighting my friend! The physical symptoms disappear after 3 days.
Regrettably, the foggy brain lasted much longer for me as it does for many. Nothing like good will and persistence to manage through that. Nice paying it forward in spirit! I love the good will here!
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I think this thread got hijakked! Derek, I always enjoy seeing you in chat, thank you for all you do here.
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I can't quite put my finger on it. But I like what's going on in this thread.
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I can't quite put my finger on it. But I like what's going on in this thread.
Watch out for gmann's fingers!
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Hello all,
My name is Thomas, and I plan on quitting after my doctors appointment on June 24. I am glad I found this site, because I didn't know about all the herbal chews on the market to help with the behavioral addiction. I will keep you posted......thank you all.
Thomas
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From a PM he sent me:
"I think I will pass on this particular community, but I wish you and all the people here the best of luck!
Thomas"
Troll, was throwing out BS in chat all night.
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Hello all,
My name is Thomas, and I plan on quitting after my doctors appointment on June 24. I am glad I found this site, because I didn't know about all the herbal chews on the market to help with the behavioral addiction. I will keep you posted......thank you all.
Thomas
Yeah, because that's what this site is all about....informing people about herbal chews.
Quit after you go to the doctor? Why then???
Now I read you don't think think this community is right for you but you wish US luck?
You got one thing right. This community is not right for you. This place is for people who are serious about quitting, which you are not.
Best of luck to you, pal. You're gonna need it.
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I have to be careful to manage my bipolar symptoms closely. That is the reason that I started in the first place; self medication. If you don't live with it, you can't understand why, so I won't bother to explain it. My intention coming to the page was to get info from people who went through the same problem.
I honestly thought this site was more serious about helping people. I had a brief discussion with Chewie and he seemed like a cool guy, despite a disagreement in viewpoint. All in all, it doesn't matter-I will do it with or without petulant slander.
Godspeed.
PS: Knockout; my message was genuine-I really do wish everyone here well.
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"Nicotine isn't that terrible actually" -Thomas79
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"Nicotine isn't that terrible actually" -Thomas79
Yes, what I meant was health wise-and JUST the nicotine itself. I never meant it wasn't a bad addiction to have. Caffeine is not terribly bad health wise either, but the addiction really sucked, that's why I gave it up.
If I thought it was all fine and dandy, I would not be here gathering resources to quit. My purpose was to learn from people who have mental illness, that are giving up the beneficial effects of nicotine, and how to deal with that. This is also why I want to talk to the doc before I do anything, to prevent what happened to me last time I stopped.
Thomas
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Addicts need a slap across the face and a bucket of cold water doused on their heads sometimes.
When you realize you are poisoning yourself and that nicotine is doing nothing positive for you, come on back.
I'm pretty sure that there are treatments for bipolar disorder other than tobacco/nicotine. Also, I haven't heard of bipolar disorder being treated with tobacco.
Good luck! We are here to support when you decide to actually quit. Planning doesn't work when it comes to quitting. You just quit.
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"Nicotine isn't that terrible actually" -Thomas79
Yes, what I meant was health wise-and JUST the nicotine itself. I never meant it wasn't a bad addiction to have. Caffeine is not terribly bad health wise either, but the addiction really sucked, that's why I gave it up.
If I thought it was all fine and dandy, I would not be here gathering resources to quit. My purpose was to learn from people who have mental illness, that are giving up the beneficial effects of nicotine, and how to deal with that. This is also why I want to talk to the doc before I do anything, to prevent what happened to me last time I stopped.
Thomas
I'm not one to pile on guys who are new to the site . But what do you think your doctor will tell you on the 24th...."Errrr yes I think it's a good idea to quit dipping" What else do you expect him to say. Unless your doctor has been addicted to nicotine and then quit, he won't know more about it than us. My wife is a doctor, she doesn't know shit about quitting. Just throw your dip away and start quitting now.
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Hello all,
My name is Thomas, and I plan on quitting after my doctors appointment on June 24. I am glad I found this site, because I didn't know about all the herbal chews on the market to help with the behavioral addiction. I will keep you posted......thank you all.
Thomas
I for one will not be able to sleep until Thomas makes his choice of which "quit smokeless" site he joins on the 24th. I hope you pick us, because my momma says I'm the 3rd best looking quitter and the 2nd best kisser.
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"Nicotine isn't that terrible actually" -Thomas79
Yes, what I meant was health wise-and JUST the nicotine itself. I never meant it wasn't a bad addiction to have. Caffeine is not terribly bad health wise either, but the addiction really sucked, that's why I gave it up.
If I thought it was all fine and dandy, I would not be here gathering resources to quit. My purpose was to learn from people who have mental illness, that are giving up the beneficial effects of nicotine, and how to deal with that. This is also why I want to talk to the doc before I do anything, to prevent what happened to me last time I stopped.
Thomas
Do some research...
* Nicotine used to be one of our most effective pesticides. They banned it because it was too harmful to wildlife.
* A refill vial for the new e-cigs (typically 5-10ml) is enough to kill a child. Kill... dead... cease to be.
The list goes on.
"It isn't that terrible..."!?
It's EVIL.
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Grizzly No medical professional would treat the disorder with nicotine-it's self medicating. That being said, it does provide relief from the symptoms. I am on meds now, that's why it's time to quit.
Dagranger The intent is to determine if I need to change my dosages etc. Of course the doctor is going to tell me to quit-I am not expecting otherwise, and I already knew it.
Thumblewort That's my point exactly.
AppleJack You are completely correct.....it is "evil", especially because it is enhanced by MAOIs and various chemicals to make it more addictive. I am certainly not defending it, but I dislike the fact people point their finger at nicotine, and not consider that the delivery system is what's killing them.
In some form, I don't doubt it could be used as a pesticide. Overdose is possible, but you can overdose on water. The "drug" is also in many of the foods we eat, and has never been proven to do any more than slightly elevate blood pressure.
Setting all that aside, I completely agree with you, it's something I want to go away-but I also know how I need to do it. I have stopped for extended periods before, and went back, so this time I am going to do it right.
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I am certainly not defending it, but I dislike the fact people point their finger at nicotine, and not consider that the delivery system is what's killing them.
Wrong...
See point #2 in my previous post.
Your addiction is deluding you. See how strong it is? Nicotine is running the show for you... how does it feel to be its puppet?
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AppleJack You are completely correct.....it is "evil", especially because it is enhanced by MAOIs and various chemicals to make it more addictive. I am certainly not defending it, but I dislike the fact people point their finger at nicotine, and not consider that the delivery system is what's killing them.
The above is a quote from you Thomas....
I'm a new quitter myself...not even having hit three days after damn near 40 years of Copenhagen....believe you need to reconsider your statements in light of the facts: it's not the delivery system, it's the NICOTENE, along with God knows how many other chemicals, in the dip that is the problem. In case you were not aware, nicotine, milliliter per milliliter, is more poisonous than arsenic, than strychnine, or than snake venom. An average dipper uptakes enough nicotine daily to KILL a small rodent (think gerbil/mouse/etc...).
http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm (http://www.nicotinevictims.com/poison.htm)
Here's an AWESOME article, posted in Brettlees signature page, that you need to take a read-through...lays out plainly why nicotine messes with your head and why you want more (and don't blame it)...why do you think folks on KTC call her the nic-bitch? Bitch, in my opinion, is too kind of a word for what this chemical does to people.
http://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html (http://whyquit.com/whyquit/linksaaddiction.html)
Finally, when you've decided you're done, and you are ready to listen to dudes that have been down the road you're contemplating...spit it out, post roll with your word that you're going to be nicotine free (no tobacco, no e-cigs, no patches, no gum), and join us. This is a group of committed quitters; they will not cater to anyone who is not willing to gut out the quit, but they have a shit-ton of experience helping those who are willing.
Just my unsolicited opinion after reading your "excuses". Join us, man up, and in 100 days you'll be glad you did.
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Grizzly No medical professional would treat the disorder with nicotine-it's self medicating. That being said, it does provide relief from the symptoms. I am on meds now, that's why it's time to quit.
Dagranger The intent is to determine if I need to change my dosages etc. Of course the doctor is going to tell me to quit-I am not expecting otherwise, and I already knew it.
Thumblewort That's my point exactly.
AppleJack You are completely correct.....it is "evil", especially because it is enhanced by MAOIs and various chemicals to make it more addictive. I am certainly not defending it, but I dislike the fact people point their finger at nicotine, and not consider that the delivery system is what's killing them.
In some form, I don't doubt it could be used as a pesticide. Overdose is possible, but you can overdose on water. The "drug" is also in many of the foods we eat, and has never been proven to do any more than slightly elevate blood pressure.
Setting all that aside, I completely agree with you, it's something I want to go away-but I also know how I need to do it. I have stopped for extended periods before, and went back, so this time I am going to do it right.
My man, I can't keep reading this intro. The following quote just came out of the tips of your fingers:
"I dislike the fact people point their finger at nicotine"
Uhhh, bro, other than pointing one's fingers inwardly, the only finger we do point on this site is at nicotine. Wanna know why? WE ARE NICOTINE ADDICTS!!!! I don't understand why this is hard to grasp. I understand your point regarding mental health, but this isn't a medical professionals forum. Most of us aren't doctors. We can't treat your bipolar disorder. We can help guys/gals that wanna quit NICOTINE, not analyze the psychosemantics of the truisms associated with NICOTINE.
Today I quit NICOTINE, and because I am an addict, I choose to surround myself with bad ass quitters that like me are quitting NICOTINE. If you wanna talk to a doctor about your mental health stuff, great.
Finally, for you to write that you thought this site was "more about helping people than it is", 'Finger' I am quit today because of my resolve and because of KTC. I am saving my life today because of this site. How's that for helping people? 'Finger' Stop wasting our time bro.
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Did some mental hospital close and release all its patients? Seems as though we have had our run of the fucked up. Sorry this will not help anybody just frustrating to see morons justify their addictions.
We are not doctors, we are quitters. We can't help with both.
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Did some mental hospital close and release all its patients? Seems as though we have had our run of the fucked up. Sorry this will not help anybody just frustrating to see morons justify their addictions.
We are not doctors, we are quitters. We can't help with both.
^^^^^ x 2.
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I count 3 newbies (Cav, J2thaZ, Dagranger) on this thread preaching some quit gospel. This is how you quit. They read, they learn, and they know their addiction. Respect.
There are some asinine statements on this thread, which have absolutely no clinical merit. For example, the notion that a delivery system is more addictive than the drug itself...is just plain wrong. The acts of chewing, smoking, spitting, ...these are habits. These are fixations. These are NOT addictions. If you stop the act of spitting, I guarantee you will not have withdrawal symptoms. If you quit nicotine or an other drug, you will have withdrawal symptoms...some have it worse than others.
Regardless of what I say, when I read threads like this...i.e. people who come here thinking they have it all figured out, because they've either successfully stopped for a month, believe that weening works, or whatever ...my quit gets stronger because I realize that I know what I'm doing and they don't. I know how to quit.
I don't need to defend what I say to these people nor do I need to listen to somenone who is not quit defend their perceived quit to me. My respect is reserved for those who quit nicotine. All of it.
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Steakbomb18 I never said it was the delivery system that was what made it the most addictive, but there are chemicals in cigarettes and dip that intensify the effect of nicotine-fact. I was talking about the harm, but that's besides the point-you're right, its asinine to argue about the harm level.....and completely besides the point. Clearly, I don't have it all figured out, I just know what made me fail last time. I don't plan on "weeing" anything by the way-though I personally know many people who quit for a lifetime by weening.
duathman I was not asking for medical advice from the board. All I wanted to know was if anyone here had bipolar too, and how they dealt with quitting. I was explaining why I was waiting till the 24th. I'm hardly justifying anything, but is nescessary for people like me to do things the right way. The average Joe blow doesn't have to worry about the side effects of removing a drug that has mood controlling effects......I do. If I dump it cold turkey without doing it correctly, I will fail-and I know it.
People have mentioned the mind altering effects and the grip nicotine has one people....that's true, and it's going to be that much more intensified because of underlying problems. This is exactly why I will talk to my doc on the 24th, order what I need to for "fixations" and get my shit in one sock now, not impulsively tossing it, which no doubt does work well for some people.
J2thaZ Point taken, thank you for the reply.
CavMan83 Thank you! Congrats on the quitting. Thank you for the links. I realize I was pretty much wasting my time talking about the harm of the drug vs the tobacco etc.-it's really irrelevent. You're correct about coming to the board with people that have experience; they are the ones that know what they're talking about.
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Steakbomb18 I never said it was the delivery system that was what made it the most addictive, but there are chemicals in cigarettes and dip that intensify the effect of nicotine-fact. I was talking about the harm, but that's besides the point-you're right, its asinine to argue about the harm level.....and completely besides the point. Clearly, I don't have it all figured out, I just know what made me fail last time. I don't plan on "weeing" anything by the way-though I personally know many people who quit for a lifetime by weening.
duathman I was not asking for medical advice from the board. All I wanted to know was if anyone here had bipolar too, and how they dealt with quitting. I was explaining why I was waiting till the 24th. I'm hardly justifying anything, but is nescessary for people like me to do things the right way. The average Joe blow doesn't have to worry about the side effects of removing a drug that has mood controlling effects......I do. If I dump it cold turkey without doing it correctly, I will fail-and I know it.
People have mentioned the mind altering effects and the grip nicotine has one people....that's true, and it's going to be that much more intensified because of underlying problems. This is exactly why I will talk to my doc on the 24th, order what I need to for "fixations" and get my shit in one sock now, not impulsively tossing it, which no doubt does work well for some people.
J2thaZ Point taken, thank you for the reply.
CavMan83 Thank you! Congrats on the quitting. Thank you for the links. I realize I was pretty much wasting my time talking about the harm of the drug vs the tobacco etc.-it's really irrelevent. You're correct about coming to the board with people that have experience; they are the ones that know what they're talking about.
I don't want to even talk to you Thomas. I would like to talk to your master if you don't mind. If you do, to bad your not in control of crap.
Poison, i hate you. I hope my friend here sees you for what you really are sooner than later. I hope he eventually sees that you have done nothing but take from him. I hope he realizes one day you will take until there is nothing left. I hope he realizes that in time you could take his tongue, throat and even life. I hope that one day my friend takes his life back.
Thomas, wake the fu. Dig deep. Who do you think we are anyways?You might be fooled, but we aren't. We know the truth. As you were.
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Steakbomb18 I never said it was the delivery system that was what made it the most addictive, but there are chemicals in cigarettes and dip that intensify the effect of nicotine-fact. I was talking about the harm, but that's besides the point-you're right, its asinine to argue about the harm level.....and completely besides the point. Clearly, I don't have it all figured out, I just know what made me fail last time. I don't plan on "weeing" anything by the way-though I personally know many people who quit for a lifetime by weening.
duathman I was not asking for medical advice from the board. All I wanted to know was if anyone here had bipolar too, and how they dealt with quitting. I was explaining why I was waiting till the 24th. I'm hardly justifying anything, but is nescessary for people like me to do things the right way. The average Joe blow doesn't have to worry about the side effects of removing a drug that has mood controlling effects......I do. If I dump it cold turkey without doing it correctly, I will fail-and I know it.
People have mentioned the mind altering effects and the grip nicotine has one people....that's true, and it's going to be that much more intensified because of underlying problems. This is exactly why I will talk to my doc on the 24th, order what I need to for "fixations" and get my shit in one sock now, not impulsively tossing it, which no doubt does work well for some people.
J2thaZ Point taken, thank you for the reply.
CavMan83 Thank you! Congrats on the quitting. Thank you for the links. I realize I was pretty much wasting my time talking about the harm of the drug vs the tobacco etc.-it's really irrelevent. You're correct about coming to the board with people that have experience; they are the ones that know what they're talking about.
Good God!
Just quit already! It's pretty damn simple! Quit!!!!
Stop talking. Stop rationalizing. Stop using a condition as an excuse.
Do you wanna be free?
Follow our path.
It's well trod and... It leads to the right place.
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Steakbomb18 I never said it was the delivery system that was what made it the most addictive, but there are chemicals in cigarettes and dip that intensify the effect of nicotine-fact. I was talking about the harm, but that's besides the point-you're right, its asinine to argue about the harm level.....and completely besides the point. Clearly, I don't have it all figured out, I just know what made me fail last time. I don't plan on "weeing" anything by the way-though I personally know many people who quit for a lifetime by weening.
duathman I was not asking for medical advice from the board. All I wanted to know was if anyone here had bipolar too, and how they dealt with quitting. I was explaining why I was waiting till the 24th. I'm hardly justifying anything, but is nescessary for people like me to do things the right way. The average Joe blow doesn't have to worry about the side effects of removing a drug that has mood controlling effects......I do. If I dump it cold turkey without doing it correctly, I will fail-and I know it.
People have mentioned the mind altering effects and the grip nicotine has one people....that's true, and it's going to be that much more intensified because of underlying problems. This is exactly why I will talk to my doc on the 24th, order what I need to for "fixations" and get my shit in one sock now, not impulsively tossing it, which no doubt does work well for some people.
J2thaZ Point taken, thank you for the reply.
CavMan83 Thank you! Congrats on the quitting. Thank you for the links. I realize I was pretty much wasting my time talking about the harm of the drug vs the tobacco etc.-it's really irrelevent. You're correct about coming to the board with people that have experience; they are the ones that know what they're talking about.
Good God!
Just quit already! It's pretty damn simple! Quit!!!!
Stop talking. Stop rationalizing. Stop using a condition as an excuse.
Do you wanna be free?
Follow our path.
It's well trod and... It leads to the right place.
Do you think that almost all of us might have set a 24th date, or a 10th date, or a Christmas, birthday, hallys comet, day of the rapture... Dude I planned thousands of quits. Almost every day. You are now in a place where no one judges. Where we know the first few days you are gonna be jacked. We get it. I don't care if you are tripolar or have twelve toes.... Quitting is still the answer. You've taken the first step. You have guys with days, with weeks, with months, and with years of quit under their belt. And every one of us is telling you the same thing. Shut up. Throw the shit out. And get on this site and use it to get you thru the tough patches.
Self medication? Nicotine use is great to manage the effects of nicotine withdrawal. That's it. It doesn't make you smarter. Or more handsome to hot chix. It doesn't make you play video games better. Or succeed at your job. It does keep the withdrawal at bay until it starts up again. No more. It is a circular function with a cancerous and expensive twist.
Listen to these guys. They are typing to you on Friday night because they know of what they speak. Jump in. The only thing you have to lose is your enslavement.
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Steakbomb18 I never said it was the delivery system that was what made it the most addictive, but there are chemicals in cigarettes and dip that intensify the effect of nicotine-fact. I was talking about the harm, but that's besides the point-you're right, its asinine to argue about the harm level.....and completely besides the point. Clearly, I don't have it all figured out, I just know what made me fail last time. I don't plan on "weeing" anything by the way-though I personally know many people who quit for a lifetime by weening.
duathman I was not asking for medical advice from the board. All I wanted to know was if anyone here had bipolar too, and how they dealt with quitting. I was explaining why I was waiting till the 24th. I'm hardly justifying anything, but is nescessary for people like me to do things the right way. The average Joe blow doesn't have to worry about the side effects of removing a drug that has mood controlling effects......I do. If I dump it cold turkey without doing it correctly, I will fail-and I know it.
People have mentioned the mind altering effects and the grip nicotine has one people....that's true, and it's going to be that much more intensified because of underlying problems. This is exactly why I will talk to my doc on the 24th, order what I need to for "fixations" and get my shit in one sock now, not impulsively tossing it, which no doubt does work well for some people.
J2thaZ Point taken, thank you for the reply.
CavMan83 Thank you! Congrats on the quitting. Thank you for the links. I realize I was pretty much wasting my time talking about the harm of the drug vs the tobacco etc.-it's really irrelevent. You're correct about coming to the board with people that have experience; they are the ones that know what they're talking about.
Good God!
Just quit already! It's pretty damn simple! Quit!!!!
Stop talking. Stop rationalizing. Stop using a condition as an excuse.
Do you wanna be free?
Follow our path.
It's well trod and... It leads to the right place.
Do you think that almost all of us might have set a 24th date, or a 10th date, or a Christmas, birthday, hallys comet, day of the rapture... Dude I planned thousands of quits. Almost every day. You are now in a place where no one judges. Where we know the first few days you are gonna be jacked. We get it. I don't care if you are tripolar or have twelve toes.... Quitting is still the answer. You've taken the first step. You have guys with days, with weeks, with months, and with years of quit under their belt. And every one of us is telling you the same thing. Shut up. Throw the shit out. And get on this site and use it to get you thru the tough patches.
Self medication? Nicotine use is great to manage the effects of nicotine withdrawal. That's it. It doesn't make you smarter. Or more handsome to hot chix. It doesn't make you play video games better. Or succeed at your job. It does keep the withdrawal at bay until it starts up again. No more. It is a circular function with a cancerous and expensive twist.
Listen to these guys. They are typing to you on Friday night because they know of what they speak. Jump in. The only thing you have to lose is your enslavement.
Don't know why you posted that you are gonna quit on the 24th. You are wasting everyone's time with that garbage. Future promises of quitting mean nothing here. We quit today and today only.
If you don't listen to us by dumping your stash and quitting today.... Then hit the road and come back when ur ready. We don't need your BS future promise.
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You all doubt my sincerity; rightfully so. I have been guilty of "planning" in the past. Fair enough-my next post will be my day one post.
Thank you all for your brutal honesty and constructive criticism.
See you all soon;
Thomas
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Thomas nicotine is an amazing survivor. She makes people believe quitting will actually harm them when only benefits them, and in your case, I highly suspect nicotine is preventing you from thinking clearly about your addiction. For example, you caved the last time you stopped because you experienced problems with your bi-polar disorder during withdrawal; however, you are currently on medication to treat the bi-polar as opposed to treating bi-polar exclusively with nicotine. Therefore, you won't likely experience problems with your bi-polar disorder because you are currently taking medication to treat the symptoms.
Although it's possible the absence of nicotine will affect your bi-polar meds you need to take responsibility for this possibility asap. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE 24TH TO SPEAK WITH A DOCTOR. Call the clinic immediately and ask to speak with any doctor about what effects, if any, the absence of nicotine will have on your bi-polar meds. You can't wait any longer because the longer you wait the more time you allow nicotine to convince you no problem exists.
I'm glad you are taking responsibility for treating your bi-polar disorder but now its time to take responsibility for your other mental illness -- nicotine addiction.
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Thomas nicotine is an amazing survivor. She makes people believe quitting will actually harm them when only benefits them, and in your case, I highly suspect nicotine is preventing you from thinking clearly about your addiction. For example, you caved the last time you stopped because you experienced problems with your bi-polar disorder during withdrawal; however, you are currently on medication to treat the bi-polar as opposed to treating bi-polar exclusively with nicotine. Therefore, you won't likely experience problems with your bi-polar disorder because you are currently taking medication to treat the symptoms.
Although it's possible the absence of nicotine will affect your bi-polar meds you need to take responsibility for this possibility asap. DO NOT WAIT UNTIL THE 24TH TO SPEAK WITH A DOCTOR. Call the clinic immediately and ask to speak with any doctor about what effects, if any, the absence of nicotine will have on your bi-polar meds. You can't wait any longer because the longer you wait the more time you allow nicotine to convince you no problem exists.
I'm glad you are taking responsibility for treating your bi-polar disorder but now its time to take responsibility for your other mental illness -- nicotine addiction.
Charger Thank you for that response......very well put. I think you are probably correct-in fact, I am sure my thinking is deluded by the drug. I will make that phone call Monday morning in fact. I don't think nicotine withdraw will effect how the meds are working-I just want to know if I should up my dose to compensate. That question can be answered via phone too.
Fact is-I switched off of snuff because of the health risks, not because I wanted to.
Fact is-This is the first time I have seriously planned quitting snus(I half ass attempted once).
I am not worried about any health risks now, I simply want to do it. If I have to sedate myself with Haldol and sit here like a vegetable, I will......
Nothing will stop me this time.......I will make that call Monday morning.
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I've never been accused of being gentle or tolerant or whatever, so just know going into this that I understand there are other issues and I have no idea how to help there. Go see a professional if you have any issues.
That being said, Nicotine is evil. Period. You will never convince me (or, I suspect, any other quitter on this site) otherwise. I don't care if you think it is just the delivery system that's the problem or not - I've tried literally every "nicotine delivery system" I could find - cigarettes, cigars, chew, dip, snuff, lozenges, patches, gum - and they all just delayed use of some tobacco. So, if the delivery system is what kills you, and no NRT kept me off tobacco, and tobacco is what actually kills you, then it still fails. Nevermind that the nic in one cig is sufficient to kill an adult male, or that nic has been used as a pesticide, or that you came to a site who extols the virtues of quitting nicotine cold turkey.
If you disagree, please move on. I can tell from how you word your sentences that you are both intelligent and educated; you should recognize that this is not the appropriate place or forum to air your difference of opinion - our standard is EASILY discernible and you came to us. If you don't like the method, feel free to browse on.
If you are not on the Sept14 Roll tomorrow, you're a troll and therefore wasting our time. This is not an intellectual endeavor, but a visceral struggle against a VERY real addiction. Take your dump or get off the pot - here is Your Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10291235/21/?x=90#new), should you actually be serious, and here is how to post roll, (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/) including this short video. (http://www.killthecan.org/roll/) If you are serious, I suggest you start here, at the welcome center. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
To be brutally blunt and a generally horrible person - either post your day one or kindly move along. If you are worried about your narcs, figure that out and then come back and post - either way, your next post should be a Day 1.
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Now your talking to a doctor on Monday? Geez laweez.
Thomas,, You are not special. There is almost 20,000 quitters that have used this site to quit. Your not the first with a Bi-polar disorder. Your not the first to come up with excuse after excuse. We've heard them all before. I've seen people come here with just about every ailment and problem you can imagine. As you have found, Bi-polar has not bought you a pass. As a matter of fact, it has aided in our conclusion you need to quit like fu@@! The only thing that makes you special is the fact your still using and we aren't. Come back when you want to take your life back. We'll be here,, Quit like fu@@!
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I have spoken to my doctor(thankfully she could be reached on Saturday), and have been given all the tools needed to begin the struggleÂ…..I am glad I waited; it turns out nicotine makes me hyper metabolize one of the drugs I take; consequently; I actually needed to REDUCE my dose. Had I went cold turkey, the medication dose would be far more potent, with rapidly increased toxicity.
I was tempted to get pretty pissed at being slammed for my decision, but then I realized I would have chalked it up as another justifying excuse had the roles been reversed.....
The drug has a half-life of 20 hours; double that time and the reduced level will be in my system. My doc told me to start the reduced dose tomorrow, it will be in full effect by Tuesday and wait one more day to adjust.......Wednesday is the day.
This is how it's going to be done for me-the safe way. If you are still willing to help me, I will appreciate it(the accountability aspect is HIGHLY effective for me); if not, I will do it regardless.
I fully concede you guys are the pros-you have quit for a lifetime, not just a year like I did. I also fully concede I was appropriately bitch-slapped on using bipolar as an excuse. Both my doctor and the literature she provided a link to, show the positive effects of nicotine are COMPLETELY outclassed by the benefits of quitting. Reading back, I realized I sounded like another fucktard junkie, who was just making excuses.....
I have managed mental problems since I was 11; I am also in the medical field. When it comes to recognizing the safety of drug interactions/changing doses......I know what I am doing-and my doctor even more so.
When it comes to recognizing I need to extract my head from my ass, YOU guys know what you're doing. You also know how to help junkies, and recognize excuses. I still ask for your help, but I WILL NOT post my day 1 until Wednesday.
I have already done enough mind altering with nicotine to risk doing irreversible damage with other drugs...
Thomas
PS: The good thing is, I now have a link with info detailing instructions on how people with conditions like myself can stop using nicotine as a vice.
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Enough of your nonsense. KTC is for quiters that QUIT COLD TURKEY. Man up, quit cold turkey, and get your name on roll every day, or take your bullshit elsewhere. You are not how we roll here. GTFO now 'Finger'.
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Enough of your nonsense. KTC is for quiters that QUIT COLD TURKEY. Man up, quit cold turkey, and get your name on roll every day, or take your bullshit elsewhere. You are not how we roll here. GTFO now 'Finger'.
I was going to tell Thomas, when you are 100% quit come back. Until then.....bye bye.
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Enough of your nonsense. KTC is for quiters that QUIT COLD TURKEY. Man up, quit cold turkey, and get your name on roll every day, or take your bullshit elsewhere. You are not how we roll here. GTFO now 'Finger'.
Vacuous cretin; I would be signing on from the hospital. I'll be at your roll call.
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Enough of your nonsense. KTC is for quiters that QUIT COLD TURKEY. Man up, quit cold turkey, and get your name on roll every day, or take your bullshit elsewhere. You are not how we roll here. GTFO now 'Finger'.
Vacuous cretin; I would be signing on from the hospital. I'll be at your roll call.
quitsmokeless.org may be a better fit for you. A more subtle approach for people in your situation. At KTC it is Cold Turkey 100%. That's just the way it is.
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COME BACK WHEN YOU'RE QUIT. UNTIL THEN JUST STFU AND DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO DO.
Fuck, I'm no doctor. If yours told you to do whatever, Fucking do it and come back when you're 100% nicotine free.
We will still be here. You can bet your ass on that.
Good luck...
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The fact that your quack doc would recommend weaning, and that you have proven to be simple minded, means if I see your name on roll you are lying. Go elsewhere. Now.
Quit smokeless.org (http://www.quitsmokeless.org)
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Thomas didn't say his doctor recommended weaning, rather that he needed to reduce a dose of one of his psych meds. As one of the resident pharmacist's on this site, I can vouch for Thomas' story, that nicotine (actually a byproduct of it) is a rapid inducer of CYP450 enzymes. These enzymes speed up metabolism, so when you quit (or stop) nicotine, you lower this enzyme and drugs aren't metabolized as fast...they metabolize slower, and then when you keep taking certain drugs, they can build up in the system and become toxic. Also, with most psych meds you need to wean them to lower doses rather than lower or stop them abruptly.
So, Thomas. You've defended yourself vehemently in light of many of us hammering you with one of our creeds to quit nicotine cold turkey. You've also responded to each person, and despite our aggression, have owned up to the addict in you. I can appreciate that. I think you appreciate what our point of view is as well. Now that you've put all of this effort in lining up your ducks, when you come back here, you better be ready to quit. No F'in around. NO nicotine at all, and you better be a 100% roll poster in your quit group.
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Jeez Laweez. Now you have some magical medical protocol. Now Wednesday is the day. When is Wednesday anyways? I only know when today is.
I agree with the fine quitters above. Go away and come back when your ready to quit TODAY, and even then I wouldn't bet a nickle on your quit!
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Why are you guys feeding this troll? He's been in chat trolling. Don't feed the troll and they won't come back for more.
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Why are you guys feeding this troll? He's been in chat trolling. Don't feed the troll and they won't come back for more.
I can appreciate advice from a serious quitter any day mr.conbud, but i will determine where and when i put a post. Thank you anyways!
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Thomas didn't say his doctor recommended weaning, rather that he needed to reduce a dose of one of his psych meds. As one of the resident pharmacist's on this site, I can vouch for Thomas' story, that nicotine (actually a byproduct of it) is a rapid inducer of CYP450 enzymes. These enzymes speed up metabolism, so when you quit (or stop) nicotine, you lower this enzyme and drugs aren't metabolized as fast...they metabolize slower, and then when you keep taking certain drugs, they can build up in the system and become toxic. Also, with most psych meds you need to wean them to lower doses rather than lower or stop them abruptly.
So, Thomas. You've defended yourself vehemently in light of many of us hammering you with one of our creeds to quit nicotine cold turkey. You've also responded to each person, and despite our aggression, have owned up to the addict in you. I can appreciate that. I think you appreciate what our point of view is as well. Now that you've put all of this effort in lining up your ducks, when you come back here, you better be ready to quit. No F'in around. NO nicotine at all, and you better be a 100% roll poster in your quit group.
I appreciate you stepping forward and articulating in a knowledgeable manner-thank you. Yes, I completely appreciate this group's viewpoint too. Talk to you soon.
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I'm glad you stuck around and posted today. Keep it up.
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I'm glad you stuck around and posted today. Keep it up.
Make it count now, Thomas. Read, read, and read some more. The truth you seek is here my friend, but you have to be willing to listen. Looking forward to you posting roll (correctly) tomorrow. Your quit, own it.
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I'm glad you stuck around and posted today. Keep it up.
Make it count now, Thomas. Read, read, and read some more. The truth you seek is here my friend, but you have to be willing to listen. Looking forward to you posting roll (correctly) tomorrow. Your quit, own it.
I'm with J2thaZ, brother. Read, learn, be rational not emotional. The nicotine demons will try everything they can to make you cave. Just remember nic withdrawals have never killed anyone, even if it feels like it sometimes.
Post roll early, EDD
Honor your post
Repeat
(thanks NOLAQ!)
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I'm glad you stuck around and posted today. Keep it up.
Make it count now, Thomas. Read, read, and read some more. The truth you seek is here my friend, but you have to be willing to listen. Looking forward to you posting roll (correctly) tomorrow. Your quit, own it.
I'm with J2thaZ, brother. Read, learn, be rational not emotional. The nicotine demons will try everything they can to make you cave. Just remember nic withdrawals have never killed anyone, even if it feels like it sometimes.
Post roll early, EDD
Honor your post
Repeat
(thanks NOLAQ!)
Let's see if i should have wagered more than a nickel. I would love to eat those words. Welcome!
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Why are you guys feeding this troll? He's been in chat trolling. Don't feed the troll and they won't come back for more.
I can appreciate advice from a serious quitter any day mr.conbud, but i will determine where and when i put a post. Thank you anyways!
By all means good sir... For we live and learn from our experiences. Or, if you're so inclined, we live by faith not by sight.
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I am about to try and post my second roll..............correctly hahaha
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I am about to try and post my second roll..............correctly hahaha
well, you didn't. try again quoting Thursday's roll since the board was"flipped".
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Hi. My names Aaron. I plan on quiting after this can of griz green long cut.
I am not very strong mentally, unfortunately. I'm not sure how forums work neither. I just want to get some support from people who have gone through it. I have tried to quit once but it didn't last but 2 days... The fact that someone I don't even know remotely would help me get through this is absolutely outstanding. But I thank all of you.
Aaron.
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I am about to try and post my second roll..............correctly hahaha
well, you didn't. try again quoting Thursday's roll since the board was"flipped".
Ok, I think I got it right this time. Thanks for your help.
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Hi. My names Aaron. I plan on quiting after this can of griz green long cut.
I am not very strong mentally, unfortunately. I'm not sure how forums work neither. I just want to get some support from people who have gone through it. I have tried to quit once but it didn't last but 2 days... The fact that someone I don't even know remotely would help me get through this is absolutely outstanding. But I thank all of you.
Aaron.
Aaron-
Welcome. Start your own intro so we aren't hijacking T79's. Also get into the Pre-HOF Sept 2014 and start some dialogue going. Fair warning, please don't disrespect any of the badass quitters currently in that forum by having a turd in your lip when you're talking with them. G'head, get in there. See you soon.
J2thaZ
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Where is thomas today. Can i keep that nickel polished.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
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It seems that we have ourselves a special butterfly here.
:scowick:
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It seems that we have ourselves a special butterfly here.
:scowick:
Already giving excuses. Figure out how to get roll posted early. Whatever it takes.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
Don't worry friend. If a@@ hole is the best you got during the first 3 days of quit your holding it together nicely. I expected a little more. ;)
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
This quit will change your life. Stick with the plan. Your doing great.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
Don't worry friend. If a@@ hole is the best you got during the first 3 days of quit your holding it together nicely. I expected a little more. ;)
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
This quit will change your life. Stick with the plan. Your doing great.
Srans, regarding your nickel investment on this guy...I'll say this: He's texted me back and forth for 2 days in a row; sharing his struggles and victories with me. We may not have necessarily agreed with the start of his quit (waiting a few days) but he's won for 4 days in a row and now taking on day 5.
If the initial odds were 20 to 1; I might go so far as to say he may be worth investing the dollar. Time will tell. One day at a time Thomas. Post roll, quit like fuck, and repeat.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
It ain't about all jokes friend. Today started pretty hard. I would hardly say I have all my issues behind me. I just want people to know they CAN joke with me, and that I AM joking with them when I post a reply like that. Humor has been proven to be one of the most effective treatments for anything.
If we can't be ourselves in the face of fighting an addiction, then the addiction is still winning.
I do acknowledge all your points though. I will be posting roll early in the day from now on.
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
It ain't about all jokes friend. Today started pretty hard. I would hardly say I have all my issues behind me. I just want people to know they CAN joke with me, and that I AM joking with them when I post a reply like that. Humor has been proven to be one of the most effective treatments for anything.
If we can't be ourselves in the face of fighting an addiction, then the addiction is still winning.
I do acknowledge all your points though. I will be posting roll early in the day from now on.
Haha no problem. Glad we're able to share some laughs after a rough start. Proud to QLF with you today big T.
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I too, am proud to be part of the community!
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Where is thomas today. Should i keep that nickel polished for a real quitter.
I'm here smart ass! I am not always able to post in the morning; however, that's going to change.
Why, Thomas my feelings are hurt. Glad to see your still amongst the quit.
Just pulling your chain dude : )
I'm going to post roll early starting Sunday.
Is Thomas how do you call him a "rimshot?" This guy is all jokes now that his issues are under control? Thomas man, glad to see you're enjoying the finer things in life. HOWEVER, make sure you commit yourself every day to the process. This isn't easy, as you know, so don't push too hard in the beginning. Accept the suck as it comes to you, and win every damn day. That's all you can do. Proud to be quit with you today, and I'm proud that you're quitting as a Sultan. Don't let that last statement come back to bite me in the ass. I really don't like being bitten in the ass.
J2thaZ
Don't worry friend. If a@@ hole is the best you got during the first 3 days of quit your holding it together nicely. I expected a little more. ;)
One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
This quit will change your life. Stick with the plan. Your doing great.
Srans, regarding your nickel investment on this guy...I'll say this: He's texted me back and forth for 2 days in a row; sharing his struggles and victories with me. We may not have necessarily agreed with the start of his quit (waiting a few days) but he's won for 4 days in a row and now taking on day 5.
If the initial odds were 20 to 1; I might go so far as to say he may be worth investing the dollar. Time will tell. One day at a time Thomas. Post roll, quit like fuck, and repeat.
Hell yeah! I am up to a dollar...........moving up in the world 'oh yeah'
For a dollar, I would like to see this though 'boob'