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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: J.crow37 on January 18, 2011, 12:49:00 AM
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Not gunna lie I didn't expect to see half as many people posting on this but I think thats great. This is my day three of my cold turkey attempt. Its been about 6 years 1+ can a day. got sick of it and threw the last can out the window on the way home one day. the day to day aproach is great, cus all my friends that still dip just say "youll never be able to do it" but you're right only today matters, and every individual day you can stay nic free is a day of bettering yourself
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Not gunna lie I didn't expect to see half as many people posting on this but I think thats great. This is my day three of my cold turkey attempt. Its been about 6 years 1+ can a day. got sick of it and threw the last can out the window on the way home one day. the day to day aproach is great, cus all my friends that still dip just say "youll never be able to do it" but you're right only today matters, and every individual day you can stay nic free is a day of bettering yourself
Atta boy JCrow!! Great decision, best you can make. One item I want to touch on from your Intro - those friends of yours that are giving you shit right now and doubting your quit - they ARE the #1 most dangerous thing to your quit right now. I'd advise staying away from them for a bit, until you can get a handle on your quit. What is coming out of their mouths is hate. They HATE that you have the mental fortitude to put that can down, to have taken that action. They all WANT to take that action but can't.
Have you ever met a dipper that didn't want to/plan on quitting? Of course not, because deep down we all know this shit is bad for us, but we were so damn wrapped up in that nic bitches siren song that we lolled ourselves back into comfort and put that shit back in our mouths and its all better again - perpetuating the cycle of money into UST's bank accounts. No more for us.
That hate your friends are spewing will eventually change to jealousy, as they realize that you ARE strong enough to pull this off. One day, if they're smart, they'll ask you how you did it and you can tell them about KTC.
Stay strong JCrow - lean on us if you need help, just say the word. You need a number, mine's yours for the asking.
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Hey man, this is no attempt, you're either doing it or you're not! Give it 100% commitment and you'll feel a lot better about it, trust me. Congrats on three days, you're probably right in the thick of the fog...I know at three days I really was. Post roll and keep us updated, if you need anything PM me, I have weird sleep/work hours and I'm time zones off so I'm usually on at weird times.
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You are right in the middle of The Suck. And yeah, it sucks. Bad. It is supposed to suck. Your body is healing from the poison you have been feeding it. Remember the suck, embrace it. When the craves hit during your quit you need to remember how this feels.
Congrats on your decision. It is one of the best things you could have done for you. This is a daily walk, a daily fight with your addiction. You are an addict, a fact that I hope you are embracing. Treat this as an addiction and your quit as your choice of life over a slow death. Protect your quit and be proud of it. Use this site and the support and accountability you find here to make your quit strong. Proud to be quit with ya!
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Congrats on your quit JCrow. Its the right choice. The only choice. The suck is what it is and the fog is thick, but it will all clear. Just stay strong. Quit again every morning when you post roll.
You can do it. We all have faith in you because you made it here.
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all my friends that still dip just say "youll never be able to do it"
Fuck them. Not in the literal sense, but in the "I'm stronger than your pussy ass" sense.
There are a lot of long time, long term dippers here. I dipped for the better part of 29 years. Today I'm looking at one year quit. If I can do it, you can do it.
I'd be telling your 'friends' THEY are the ones that can't do it.
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all my friends that still dip just say "youll never be able to do it"
Fuck them. Not in the literal sense, but in the "I'm stronger than your pussy ass" sense.
There are a lot of long time, long term dippers here. I dipped for the better part of 29 years. Today I'm looking at one year quit. If I can do it, you can do it.
I'd be telling your 'friends' THEY are the ones that can't do it.
Addiction loves company jcrow. You ever see the group of office building sidewalk smokers? I guarantee none of them wants to be the only one out there. Your failure would just add to their own rationalizations.
Fuck them, prove them wrong.
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J.crow,
Get the onto the April roll call!
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Obviously we are all here for the same Health related reasons. But Im personally on my day 3 and have already found some great pieces of help (both here and through short term experience) that have made these three days not so terrible. So I wast just wondering when all you have that moment when you're in a trigger setting and want so bad to stuff your face full of death. Whats your go to? What do all you use as your relaxer thought to get back into perspective? Me personally is this one girl I had always liked finally got the nuts to talk to her weve gone out a few times. and I think shes great, she never even minded the dipping, but i always just think to myself what a loser I was if I pussied out and went back to the can.
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Obviously we are all here for the same Health related reasons. But Im personally on my day 3 and have already found some great pieces of help (both here and through short term experience) that have made these three days not so terrible. So I wast just wondering when all you have that moment when you're in a trigger setting and want so bad to stuff your face full of death. Whats your go to? What do all you use as your relaxer thought to get back into perspective? Me personally is this one girl I had always liked finally got the nuts to talk to her weve gone out a few times. and I think shes great, she never even minded the dipping, but i always just think to myself what a loser I was if I pussied out and went back to the can.
I just say to myself (out loud) "You've earned this freedom. You are quit. Life is better now." I used to tell the nic bitch to go fuck herself, but that's just rude.
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Obviously we are all here for the same Health related reasons. But Im personally on my day 3 and have already found some great pieces of help (both here and through short term experience) that have made these three days not so terrible. So I wast just wondering when all you have that moment when you're in a trigger setting and want so bad to stuff your face full of death. Whats your go to? What do all you use as your relaxer thought to get back into perspective? Me personally is this one girl I had always liked finally got the nuts to talk to her weve gone out a few times. and I think shes great, she never even minded the dipping, but i always just think to myself what a loser I was if I pussied out and went back to the can.
I just say to myself (out loud) "You've earned this freedom. You are quit. Life is better now." I used to tell the nic bitch to go fuck herself, but that's just rude.
Never again. Not even once. 'finger point'
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Obviously we are all here for the same Health related reasons. But Im personally on my day 3 and have already found some great pieces of help (both here and through short term experience) that have made these three days not so terrible. So I wast just wondering when all you have that moment when you're in a trigger setting and want so bad to stuff your face full of death. Whats your go to? What do all you use as your relaxer thought to get back into perspective? Me personally is this one girl I had always liked finally got the nuts to talk to her weve gone out a few times. and I think shes great, she never even minded the dipping, but i always just think to myself what a loser I was if I pussied out and went back to the can.
I just say to myself (out loud) "You've earned this freedom. You are quit. Life is better now." I used to tell the nic bitch to go fuck herself, but that's just rude.
Never again. Not even once. 'finger point'
I'm still working my way through it, only on day 12. Things have changed as the days have passed. The past week I've been using a lot of Smokey Mountain. Had killer munchies up until the past few days, seems to be settling down a little. Also the past 3 days or so I switched from coffee to herbal tea with honey and/or cinamon stick. Working so far. Peppermint or Sleepy Time at night is real calming.
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I know what you mean with munchies bro. constantly eating or chewing gum! anyone else had weird sleep experiences/dreams or lack there of sleep
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Boys heres the advice. drinking is a quit killer.. I aint quit yet and I wont quit but the urges are ten time worse with drinks in you. stay away from drinking for the for see able future till you know your good! stay strong April Bros
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I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark that you're drunk posting. Not a great idea. Your post below sounds as if you have caved, I certainly hope this is incorrect. I'll look for your role post tomorrow.
You're right, alcohol is a dangerous trigger.
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You're wrong. I told myslef I will never cave on this journey. was it stronger urges I have felt tonight yes. but you hafta look on your reason for being here boys! I wont ever cave, because I came here with myself a girl in mind and obviously you boys! Id never roll call this morning and let you down! and guess what im gunna roll call tomorow too! im just letting you know from experience that alcohol will make it harder, but for you boys i was willing to stay strong!! April BAMF
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Just so you know... I was merely informing you boys being drunk is a quit killer! it makes urges ten times worse! i have 2 strong reasons tho so ill nevevr fail! #1 my great uncle died of throat cancer and was only 33. #2 theres theres chick i love who would never forgive me if i stepped back! dont worry im on roll call forver boyss!! eclipse gum is a great replacement!!! chew that shit every day!
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I quit the last 50 days after 23 years and I have the dip dreams regularly. Its constantly the same where I freak out that I can't post roll call tomorrow. Just a dream. Posting to me is putting my word down that I quit today. That's all I can do. Quit today.
I got through the first couple weeks with the fake stuff Chattahoochee. Just to fight the oral desire to have a turd in my mouth. I thought it was cheating but after a couple weeks, I never got any more. Wasn't doing anything for me.
My approach to take control of the nic bitch has been to exercise hard. At first it was just to sap the nervous energy but now, I definitely have more energy on any given day than I've had pretty much since I can remember. I wanted to change my life to not just say I'm nic free but I'm getting healthy. I'm getting stronger. I'm running better. It feeds itself. You want to lift more. I want to get back out and run sooner. I'm replacing my dip dreams with running dreams and I'm starting to sleep right again.
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I increased my caffeine intake, which helps my metabolism and I'm guessing my digestive health as well (since it's a stimulant). I substituted gum for all my high-risk areas (sitting in bed, driving, playing video games, watching a movie, etc.). Now I go nuts if I can't find my gum, and my trash can is full of nasty gum wads, but oh well.
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Sorry smokeyg but it is never has been nor will it ever be rude to tell the nic bitch to go fuck herself.
Livin
and btw NB GFY............ with broom handles!
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Not gunna lie I didn't expect to see half as many people posting on this but I think thats great. This is my day three of my cold turkey attempt. Its been about 6 years 1+ can a day. got sick of it and threw the last can out the window on the way home one day. the day to day aproach is great, cus all my friends that still dip just say "youll never be able to do it" but you're right only today matters, and every individual day you can stay nic free is a day of bettering yourself
Welcome brother.
Tell your "friends" to go pound sand up their ass.
You're a fucking man who is taking control of his life. Your pussy friends can't man up and Quit with you.
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This is my day three of my cold turkey attempt.
BS man...no attempt.
Do or do not...there is no try.
We are all here to help the "Do".
Oh yeah tell you friends to fornicate themselves with a gigantic wooden utensil for use in eating, stirring, measuring, ladling, etc., consisting of a small, shallow bowl with a handle. I had to tell that to some of mine and they respected me for it. Now I am a quitter and they still ppour their money and health away :D
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Just so you know... I was merely informing you boys being drunk is a quit killer! it makes urges ten times worse! i have 2 strong reasons tho so ill nevevr fail! #1 my great uncle died of throat cancer and was only 33. #2 theres theres chick i love who would never forgive me if i stepped back! dont worry im on roll call forver boyss!! eclipse gum is a great replacement!!! chew that shit every day!
Those are 2 very good reasons. But I don't see the most important reason, Quitting for yourself. You have to want to do this. Not for your Uncle, not for your girl.
I agree that drinking can be a big trigger. But so can something as simple as stopping for gas.
It's good that your confident but remember that you are an addict. You can never have "just one". You must always be on guard.
STAY-STRONG
STAY-QUIT!!
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You're wrong. I told myslef I will never cave on this journey. was it stronger urges I have felt tonight yes. but you hafta look on your reason for being here boys! I wont ever cave, because I came here with myself a girl in mind and obviously you boys! Id never roll call this morning and let you down! and guess what im gunna roll call tomorow too! im just letting you know from experience that alcohol will make it harder, but for you boys i was willing to stay strong!! April BAMF
Quit for yourself, man; you're worth it. And as you succeed then you'll be better for everyone else around you.
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Obviously we are all here for the same Health related reasons. But Im personally on my day 3 and have already found some great pieces of help (both here and through short term experience) that have made these three days not so terrible. So I wast just wondering when all you have that moment when you're in a trigger setting and want so bad to stuff your face full of death. Whats your go to? What do all you use as your relaxer thought to get back into perspective? Me personally is this one girl I had always liked finally got the nuts to talk to her weve gone out a few times. and I think shes great, she never even minded the dipping, but i always just think to myself what a loser I was if I pussied out and went back to the can.
I have to remind myself, sometimes out loud, that "I'm not a dipper anymore". That helps, just to re-focus my mind. When the craves are really bad, I think back to what my life was like before my quit: the lies, the sneaking around just to get a dip (my family didn't know), the many times I pulled away from those I love to be alone with my nicotine mistress. I remember how I hated being that man. Then I remember how proud I am of my quit. How I have busted my ass and fought through the pain for this freedom. Then it comes down to a question: what do I choose? Freedom or slavery to nicotine, life or death.
Then, of course, I'm eating seeds like I'm getting paid for it!
I am 53 days clean. Winning day by day.
Proud to be quit with you!
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I tried to quit a few years ago for a "chick I loved" as well. It didn't work. After a while I told myself she'd still love me if I continued and I went right back to the dip. She did still love me. She wouldn't be a good "chick to love" if she didn't still love me, but that didn't mean that I needed to stay quit. You need to quit for yourself. You need to tell yourself that it's just for you that you're quitting for. If you try to make the quit for someone else you will just resent that person when the shit gets really really bad (and it will), and you'll start to rationalize that you can always go back to the dip and the girl will stick with you.
Don't do that. There are plenty of guys here that tried that and failed. Own your quit, quit for yourself, keep yourself accountable with the role call here, and stay quit.
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In the grand scheme of things, everyday is really everybodys Day 1. even if your on day 74837. if you can't quit for that day, your a dipper.
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I agree with the other events being big triggers too. I drank on my second day, to prove to myself that I could have alcohol without needing shit tucked in my lip and I did it. I have to say, the stronger trigger for me, was gasing up my car, unconciously looking towards the shop window, and seeing that huge basket filled with cans of cope and grizzly. Took alot to -not- walk in there and buy one. More so then the urge while drinking to run out my apt and take a jog to the nearest place that sold cope. I also think something that helps, is taking a step back, looking at the situation, and seeing that there might be some slight humor in that little voice-"I'm comfortable in my warm apt..and Im seriously going to go jog outside in 12 degree weather to get a can filled with stinky shit to put in my mouth? For a slight buzz that will end in 5 seconds and then force me to redo my 72 hour detox? fuck that". Helped me anyways.
Maybe its different for me, but I'm trying to just confront my triggers head on rather then avoid them. I'm not going to not buy gas, not eat, not drink, not drive, not take a shit (lol), just because I took dips during those activities. I'm only on day 4 so maybe it gets worse? but I've just been telling myself NO when I get the crave to buy a can.
And quitting for people other then yourself doesnt seem to work. In the past, I tried quitting for my parents, even for my grandpa who has lung cancer from smoking, couldn't do it until I had that moment of realization that it was time to do it for myself.
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yeah the drinking didnt effect anything, I didnt even think about it, well i dont really remember but anyways I didnt dip haha my hardest test will come Friday. Decent snow storm means couped up in my truck plowing for hours. And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
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yeah the drinking didnt effect anything, I didnt even think about it, well i dont really remember but anyways I didnt dip haha my hardest test will come Friday. Decent snow storm means couped up in my truck plowing for hours. And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
Driving is a huge trigger for me. As soon as I get behind the wheel I get the urge. So now I throw a toothpick in as soon as I sit down.
All my triggers get smashed right away with a toothpick. It's been working pretty well so far. Shit, I'm so confident about it I think I'll just fucking quit again tomorrow too! You should quit with me.
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yeah the drinking didnt effect anything, I didnt even think about it, well i dont really remember but anyways I didnt dip haha my hardest test will come Friday. Decent snow storm means couped up in my truck plowing for hours. And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
Driving is a huge trigger for me. As soon as I get behind the wheel I get the urge. So now I throw a toothpick in as soon as I sit down.
All my triggers get smashed right away with a toothpick. It's been working pretty well so far. Shit, I'm so confident about it I think I'll just fucking quit again tomorrow too! You should quit with me.
Gum is my go to. Non nicotine of course. But yeah fuck it I got nothing going on tomorow Im down to quit again with ya
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yeah the drinking didnt effect anything, I didnt even think about it, well i dont really remember but anyways I didnt dip haha my hardest test will come Friday. Decent snow storm means couped up in my truck plowing for hours. And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
Driving is a huge trigger for me. As soon as I get behind the wheel I get the urge. So now I throw a toothpick in as soon as I sit down.
All my triggers get smashed right away with a toothpick. It's been working pretty well so far. Shit, I'm so confident about it I think I'll just fucking quit again tomorrow too! You should quit with me.
Gum is my go to. Non nicotine of course. But yeah fuck it I got nothing going on tomorow Im down to quit again with ya
Awesome, sounds like a plan J. 'boob'
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 And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
I got myself some of the fake stuff. I have x3 11 hour shifts coming up. I basically just drive a security patrol car around for 11 hours all night long at weird ass hours and its really boring so I used to have a dip in about that entire time. Sure that'll be a trigger. So I'll be bringing some of the good ol' smokey mountain stuff with me.
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  And for anyone whos ever plowed im sure you know its boring as fuck so all Id do is dip my face off
I got myself some of the fake stuff. I have x3 11 hour shifts coming up. I basically just drive a security patrol car around for 11 hours all night long at weird ass hours and its really boring so I used to have a dip in about that entire time. Sure that'll be a trigger. So I'll be bringing some of the good ol' smokey mountain stuff with me.
I got faith that we'll both be able to hang tough brother
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Anyone who is even flirting the line between quittin or not, or if you just need help getting through the day. Google this. "Rick Bender" you think he ever thought hed get cancer, not a chance. Dont be that guy. Be "A man" and quit every day
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head' Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45 'Remshot' it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head' Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45 'Remshot' it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
guns rule!
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head' Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45 'Remshot' it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head' Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45 'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
Yeah, it moved a little...
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
Yeah, it moved a little...
Yep I will admit it too ..
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
Yeah, it moved a little...
Yep I will admit it too ..
Think I got a little mahogany...maybe teak
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This is to ALMOST EVERYONE who seemed to have nothing good to say. EXCEPT "ready" you all dont seem to care about the quit in general. was I "dumb" and Nieve to believe a Hindu speaking man, yeah probably and sorry i didnt pull out my cell and research the shit as soon as i bought the shit i just believed the dude. First off fuck any of you who believe id make it up. second of all i have no probolem going back to day one since in the end one day at a time is all that matters. but for any disbelievers you ruin the site for everyone, isnt this site about trying to solve a general problem and you decide to come out with ridicule. yeah class act faggots. Ill just do it on my own
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Hey man, I didn't see the posts till just now (time zones...), but I'm with you 100%. I've actually wondered about the same situation with me, especially in respect to some random shit in this weird country...if I accidentally consume nicotine will I reset to a day one quit? Honestly, the answer would have to be yes...
I wouldn't call it caving, though...only you really know if it was an accident or not, and that's not up to us to decide. Go back to Day 1 posts, post roll, and get on with your quit.
It is not insurmountable, and I have a feeling a lot of people are venting their quit anger on you....as well as some jealousy that you consumed nicotine and they didn't (face it, we all love nicotine...too much...which is why we're quitting). Don't give up on this system, I think it works (it has so far for me).
Post roll and get back with the system....don't let this set you back on your quit. It will be easier for you if you have the support here, and we all need one more person to quit with, I know I do.
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I think the reason they might have trouble believing you is the distinctive smell that the tobacco has. Although you were dipping that Revv stuff, which according to the site, is some energy blend mix, so maybe the scent was masked?
I'm not judging you, and if you said you didn't know, then thats what I have to go off of, but I'd say dump the shit and repost roll if you are ready to start again nicotine free. I took a look at the can on the website, and for the wintergreen and some other flavor, theres no warning label, which is kind of fucked up.
Also..something I forgot.
Some vegetables contain traces of nicotine. I don't think the content level is enough to actually have an effect, but if it is then potatoes, tomatoes, and eggplant would have to be added to the list..but I'm fairly certain its such a trace amount its hardly noticeable. Heres the site I found the info on.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NE ... 8053290619 (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308053290619)
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Seriously, what happened?
I don't know you or anyone for that FACT, but if you are going to quit as I am still doing, you have my support, as I have yours. Whatever anyone said should be reviewed by the Admin guys.....I really don't know what transpiured but you have to promise yourself that you won't put that crap in your mouth for today.
I have read that some guys can be sometimes tough on some fellas, but I would take that any day over someone giving my a hug and pat on the back. The kick in the A$$ is what we need some times.
Good luck, please come back and try again......we support you
Donn't ever stop fighting .........
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I think the reason they might have trouble believing you is the distinctive smell that the tobacco has. Although you were dipping that Revv stuff, which according to the site, is some energy blend mix, so maybe the scent was masked?
I'm not judging you, and if you said you didn't know, then thats what I have to go off of, but I'd say dump the shit and repost roll if you are ready to start again nicotine free. I took a look at the can on the website, and for the wintergreen and some other flavor, theres no warning label, which is kind of fucked up.
Also..something I forgot.
Some vegetables contain traces of nicotine. I don't think the content level is enough to actually have an effect, but if it is then potatoes, tomatoes, and eggplant would have to be added to the list..but I'm fairly certain its such a trace amount its hardly noticeable. Heres the site I found the info on.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NE ... 8053290619 (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308053290619)
From studies I read, habitual nicotine use from dipping is 130-250 mg per day.
To get 130 mg of nicotine from eggplant (the highest nicotine content of the ones on that site) you'd have to eat 1,300,000 grams of eggplant (or over a ton of eggplant). (according to the chart on that website, ten grams of eggplant is equal to one microgram of nicotine).
That being said, how much would it take for one dip's worth...around 3.3 mg? 33,000 grams....that's 72 pounds.
Mildly speaking, you only have to worry about nicotine from vegetables if you are eating over 50 pounds of eggplant or so....and if you are eating 50 lbs of eggplant I think you have problems other than just a nicotine addiction.
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To use my own quote....It looks like you are still looking for excuses to continue caving....suck it up buttercup and keep posting roll......and stay the fuck out of tobbacco shops dumbass!....how many alcoholics visit the liquor store to get some near beer? The ones that fail and start drinking to answer the question.
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This is to ALMOST EVERYONE who seemed to have nothing good to say. EXCEPT "ready" you all dont seem to care about the quit in general. was I "dumb" and Nieve to believe a Hindu speaking man, yeah probably and sorry i didnt pull out my cell and research the shit as soon as i bought the shit i just believed the dude. First off fuck any of you who believe id make it up. second of all i have no probolem going back to day one since in the end one day at a time is all that matters. but for any disbelievers you ruin the site for everyone, isnt this site about trying to solve a general problem and you decide to come out with ridicule. yeah class act faggots. Ill just do it on my own
grow a pair Janice! Sorry but I will not hold the punches when it comes to whether or not it's ok to fuck up and chew nicotine/ tobacco. That is why we are on an Extreme quit website.
So....You screwed up! Now what are you gonna do? Balls in your court.
You gonna play. or take the ball home?
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_ Rough fucking bunch.
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yes..........but with this addiction, I'd take that 6 days a week and twice on Sundays !!!
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Ill just do it on my own
How has that worked for you so far ? I am guessing not all that well. When you realize you are an addict and start acting as such you will have an easier time with your quit.
Seriously, this early in your quit you thought it would be a good idea to go into a tobacco shop ? If that was the only place to buy fake would you still go in ? Your quit is about choices. Early on you have to make the right decisions. If you needed something from the tobacco store or aisle ask someone else to get it for you. Order your fake shit online. There are always options.
When I started my quit I got advice fromt the vets; do not go into the C stores, pay at the pump. Avoid your old group of friends, stay out of bars, I would think it would go without saying to stay out of a tobacco store.
Yes this place can be harsh, but the methods here do work. Post your promise and keep your word and every person who busted your balls will line up to help you stay quit. NO cave can be accepted for any reason... even language barriers.
Up to you.... Quit and we will be here for you. I think you already know where doing it on you own will get you.
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
Yeah, it moved a little...
Yep I will admit it too ..
Think I got a little mahogany...maybe teak
Isn't it good, Norweigan Wood.
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This is to ALMOST EVERYONE who seemed to have nothing good to say. EXCEPT "ready" you all dont seem to care about the quit in general. was I "dumb" and Nieve to believe a Hindu speaking man, yeah probably and sorry i didnt pull out my cell and research the shit as soon as i bought the shit i just believed the dude. First off fuck any of you who believe id make it up. second of all i have no probolem going back to day one since in the end one day at a time is all that matters. but for any disbelievers you ruin the site for everyone, isnt this site about trying to solve a general problem and you decide to come out with ridicule. yeah class act faggots. Ill just do it on my own
I'm just seeing this, haven't seen the previous posts. From what I can tell is that you were fooled into thinking you were dipping the fake but it was real.
If that's the case then here is my input. Yes, it's a cave. You need to start at day 1 again. It was an accident, understood. We are only human and humans make mistakes. Let's learn from the mistake.
I also agree with Cpt Kylos. Stay the fuck out of the tobacco shop looking for fake stuff. Great example with the alcoholic going to the liquor store to buy Odouls.
If you could do it by yourself you would have never come here. You are gonna get crap for caving, that's the deal. Suck it up and start over. Get it done.
If I can be of any help to you just PM me.
Brian
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fucking caver. piss off.
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There's a lot of estrogen coming from this thread.
Like Banner said, grow some balls Alice.
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I have to agree with most of these guys. A cave is a cave, and now it's done. Whether it was an accident or not, that doesn't matter. Still a cave.
If you still want to quit, we still want to support you. So own up to the mistake, quit crying about people being mean, and post your new day 1. You're going to get a lot of shit if you cave because no one here want's anybody to fall.
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I think the reason they might have trouble believing you is the distinctive smell that the tobacco has. Although you were dipping that Revv stuff, which according to the site, is some energy blend mix, so maybe the scent was masked?
I'm not judging you, and if you said you didn't know, then thats what I have to go off of, but I'd say dump the shit and repost roll if you are ready to start again nicotine free. I took a look at the can on the website, and for the wintergreen and some other flavor, theres no warning label, which is kind of fucked up.
Also..something I forgot.Â
Some vegetables contain traces of nicotine. I don't think the content level is enough to actually have an effect, but if it is then potatoes, tomatoes, and eggplant would have to be added to the list..but I'm fairly certain its such a trace amount its hardly noticeable. Heres the site I found the info on.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NE ... 8053290619 (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308053290619)
From studies I read, habitual nicotine use from dipping is 130-250 mg per day.
To get 130 mg of nicotine from eggplant (the highest nicotine content of the ones on that site) you'd have to eat 1,300,000 grams of eggplant (or over a ton of eggplant). (according to the chart on that website, ten grams of eggplant is equal to one microgram of nicotine).
That being said, how much would it take for one dip's worth...around 3.3 mg? 33,000 grams....that's 72 pounds.
Mildly speaking, you only have to worry about nicotine from vegetables if you are eating over 50 pounds of eggplant or so....and if you are eating 50 lbs of eggplant I think you have problems other than just a nicotine addiction.
Thats..alot of eggplant. I didn't go that far into the research part of it, but I found the site and had remembered hearing somewhere that tomatoes and eggplant had trace amounts of the stuff in them.
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I took a look at the can on the website, and for the wintergreen and some other flavor, theres no warning label, which is kind of fucked up.
The warning label is on the side of the can that we can't see (marketing in action). There is however a clear "warning label" on the can where it says "SMOKELESS TOBACCO". Not "Herbal Snuff", not "Jerkey Chew", but "SMOKELESS FUCKING TOBACCO".
This dude is full of shit, and he's trying to pin his cave on someone else.
Fuck him, IMO.
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How do y'all find time post when you're eating 72 lbs of egg plant per day?
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Morning Crow. There are going to be strange times at the beginning of your quit. You will be confused, angry, full of rage at anything and everything. Reality is elusive at best in the first few days. The addict mind will make you work to keep your quit. You will have numerous battles with someone who knows you better than yourself (This is mostly an internal fight between you and your addict self - kinda sucks when the bad guy knows all your moves eh). It is very difficult at first. It can be done and it is well worth the effort.
There are many different personalities on this site. It's a mixed bag of experience and advice. One thing they all have in common - they want you to succeed in your quit. Take what you need from those that help you and leave the rest. Jump in here with both feet and burn your damn boat. It's gonna take everything you've got.
Leaving the site is not the answer. Stick around and you may find the answer in the last place you might expect.
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head'  Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45  'Remshot'  it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
That's 'boob'
that gave me a lil' bit of wood....
me too, but a little more than a little......
Yeah, it moved a little...
Yep I will admit it too ..
Think I got a little mahogany...maybe teak
Isn't it good, Norweigan Wood.
It happens every so often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqMX55Ubjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfqMX55Ubjc)
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Fuck Day one, two, three, four, and five. and ahead of time fuck day six. Quitting is fucking misserable, I hate it, its dumb. Fuck having to go get gas, obviously I wind up with the pump that puts my truck and headlights shining directly on that wall of orgasmic death. Fuck going to the Post Office and seeing not one but TWO random people dipping, when i swear i can count the people ive seen around this town that I didnt know dipped on one hand. Fuck Seeing a truck bed filled to the brim with bottle water....that would have been a goldmind of free spitoons in my eyes a week ago. 'bang head' Today was an absolute slut! UNTIL I got the best idea in the world. I dug through the passanger floor and bed of my truck (which gets cleaned about once a month) in total I found 8 empty tins. and for some reason there were actually 3 that had stuff in them, but i didnt even give them they courtesy of opening to see how much. so anyways. Took those eleven fuckers. Lined em up out back. and brought out the .45 'Remshot' it is unreal at how good that felt. Dipping Never ever compared to the feeling i got watching those tiny little plastic fuckers explode. If any of you have the legal ability to do that. I highly recomend it
How's your quit going? Heard you caved by accident? :huh: What was the name of that "fake" dip that was actually real? Haven't seen you post roll and just thought I'd check up.
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Ready is right. Even arguing is better that dipping. Congrats to everyone who is posting roll and staying quit...even if you are always wrong. :P
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You went into a TOBACCO store. Let's bring the raging alcoholic to the damn liquor store or the local watering hole why don't we. Regardless of the foreigner behind the counter and his ability, or lack thereof to speak the english language, your first and most important mistake was putting yourself in a situation in which you did not belong. Do you get it??
If you have any doubt regarding a product's nicotine content, do not partake. Do your research. Smokey Mountain, Oregon Mint, Hooch....maybe one or two others that are acceptable. This site has a section dedicated to non-nicotine alternatives. Check this out: Use this if you must (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
By the way, it is possible to quit without an authentic "dip" alternative. Shredded jerky, green tea leaves, coffee, hard candy, sunflower seeds, straws, toothpicks. Any of the above will assist you in fighting the habit of having something in your mouth ('bj'). :unsure:
For you and all of the newbs....you being here is strictly voluntary. If you don't like the methods employed here, you know where the door is. Caving is not acceptable here. There are countless quitters here that have successfully quit because they followed the methods used here. If you do cave, it will be met with reprimand. It's called self-policing and accountablity. It's just the way it is. If failure were acceptable, we would all fall off the damn wagon whenever we wanted. Why not, there are no consequences. We are trying to save you from consequences that are far worse than an internet ass-chewing.
Everyone here cares and wants you to succeed. Don't run. Suck it up, post your roll, learn from your mistake and move on with your quit. But stop whining about how you are being treated.
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.....and burn your damn boat.
Good shit, Ready.
This is the most important thing that you new quitters have to do.
Get retreat out of your mind. It CANNOT be an option. There is no turning back.
A successful quit is all about your mindset. This has to be your mindset. Burn your boat, and go win your war.
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To use my own quote....It looks like you are still looking for excuses to continue caving....suck it up buttercup and keep posting roll......and stay the fuck out of tobbacco shops dumbass!....how many alcoholics visit the liquor store to get some near beer? The ones that fail and start drinking to answer the question.
Very true....but to take it a step further...how many Alcoholics run around town even looking for Odouls?? How many alcoholics drink a virgin tonic shaken with olives?
I agree with most things on this site BUT using the fake chew is stupid. Our addiction is both physical and mental and in the same manner using NRT is delaying the physical break......the 'fake' is delaying the mental. Its an unnecessary crutch.
Just man up and quit!
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To use my own quote....It looks like you are still looking for excuses to continue caving....suck it up buttercup and keep posting roll......and stay the fuck out of tobbacco shops dumbass!....how many alcoholics visit the liquor store to get some near beer? The ones that fail and start drinking to answer the question.
Very true....but to take it a step further...how many Alcoholics run around town even looking for Odouls?? How many alcoholics drink a virgin tonic shaken with olives?
I agree with most things on this site BUT using the fake chew is stupid. Our addiction is both physical and mental and in the same manner using NRT is delaying the physical break......the 'fake' is delaying the mental. Its an unnecessary crutch.
Just man up and quit!
I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
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To use my own quote....It looks like you are still looking for excuses to continue caving....suck it up buttercup and keep posting roll......and stay the fuck out of tobbacco shops dumbass!....how many alcoholics visit the liquor store to get some near beer? The ones that fail and start drinking to answer the question.
Very true....but to take it a step further...how many Alcoholics run around town even looking for Odouls?? How many alcoholics drink a virgin tonic shaken with olives?
I agree with most things on this site BUT using the fake chew is stupid. Our addiction is both physical and mental and in the same manner using NRT is delaying the physical break......the 'fake' is delaying the mental. Its an unnecessary crutch.
Just man up and quit!
I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
I don't really disagree Tony - bottom-line do what you have to do to keep nic out of your system!
The problem we have here is not a question of the theoretical regarding the fake, however, the problem here is that we have a quit brother who placed himself in a compromised position early in his quit - and is now questionably caved as a result. So, for all of US pre-HOFers - and particularly those of you April and May early quitters - lets review some basic F'n guidelines to safe guard your quits:
1) Stay away from tobacco (why does this even need to be spelled out?). This means tobacco stores, the tobacco line in the grocery store, friends who chain smoke/dip, gas stations, etc. Why would you place yourself near a position of temptation? You'll be able to handle these situations better once you have a decent grasp around your quit.
2) Alcohol - not for everyone, but for many of us alcohol is a major trigger, plus when you're compromised by alcohol its that much easier to convince yourself of the old I can have just one lie. This one is particularly important for me!
3) Have a plan and use it, particularly when you find yourself in a trigger situation. Have some numbers, call your quit brothers/sisters, text, get on this site, whatever your plan is, use it.
Now for you JCrow - I looked for where this big argument between you and others on the site occurred, didn't find it. Not that it matters. Your quit is your own, you don't have to be here - you asked to be here, and in so doing you accepted the SOPs of this site. In the eyes of the majority of this group you fucked up and have caved, you're going to receive a ration of shit, get over it and stop whining. Learn from this experience and move forward with your quit. Go to April, post another Day 1, explain to your April brothers and sisters what happened and ask to be allowed to stay in their group, they'll likely say yes - thats one good group going over there.
Most importantly, if you truly want to quit, don't throw a tantrum and leave. Your quit is important and this site is a proven path, it works. Get back involved and get to quittin. I'll support you.
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Most importantly, if you truly want to quit, don't throw a tantrum and leave. Your quit is important and this site is a proven path, it works. Get back involved and get to quittin. I'll support you.
Bingo.
1. Man up and grab your sack
2. Hug it out with whoever it was that made you cry and wet your panties.
3. Change wet panties.
4. Get back over to April and post day 1. We have your back. We want you to be successful in your quit.
EDIT: Hey this was my 100th post. J.Crow that's good mojo for you. Go post today. 'boob'
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I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
Yes, but eventually you have to walk on your own. How many people do you know that after their broken leg heals are still using cructhes?
Oral addiction is part of this prison. If you were like me, I used to get panic attacks when I didn't have a can of dip with me. I used sunflower seeds and gobstopper candy just like chew. Until I learned the tools to deal with the craves
On day 50 or so I started working on the oral addiction part, It was, by far, tougher than getting through the nicotine fog. I no longer look like a rabid squirrel all hopped up on sugar. So It CAN be done! Now I keep a bag of sunflower seeds handy as part of my quit plan, still use them, but My life is so much better!
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I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
Yes, but eventually you have to walk on your own. How many people do you know that after their broken leg heals are still using cructhes?
Oral addiction is part of this prison. If you were like me, I used to get panic attacks when I didn't have a can of dip with me. I used sunflower seeds and gobstopper candy just like chew. Until I learned the tools to deal with the craves
On day 50 or so I started working on the oral addiction part, It was, by far, tougher than getting through the nicotine fog. I no longer look like a rabid squirrel all hopped up on sugar. So It CAN be done! Now I keep a bag of sunflower seeds handy as part of my quit plan, still use them, but My life is so much better!
Lav182- I am only on day three, would have to say that if some one wanted or decided to use herbal snuff to get them through a moment where the were fighting temptations and there anxiety might be high, then whats the problem. I did't even know about the herbal snuff until a few days ago, Im very lucky for it, on day one I would have caved, I had the sweats, anxiety at an all time high, but I made it though five minutes of using the herbal stuff and I was focused an on track. I am sick of feeling like this just like all of you. I know the difference I don't crave the herbal stuff, I realize that everyone is different some need to walk before they run, I can tell the difference when I use the herbal and it just reminds me of why I am doing this, why we're all doing this.
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I'm only a "noob" on day 8..but..whats the difference between taking a teabag and stuffing it in your lip, or a wad of gum, or the fake shit? Its all serving the same purpose, to fufill the -psychological- need to have something bulging out of your lip. For whatever reason, it provides security. I can see how some people dont want to use it, as they may be more likely to cave-fuck it, why not use the real stuff? I don't see the same way. I'd rather stuff my lip with fake shit when I get that strong crave, then try holding out against both the addiction to nicotine, and the behavioral habit to stuff shit in my lip and risk caving and start the whole fucking process all over again. Thats just my perspective anyways. When I put the SMC in, it helps with the psychological need, and then I can focus on staying the fuck away from nicobitch. Crutch, perhaps, but its not nicotine and it helps me concentrate on taking this a day at a time.
Yes, but eventually you have to walk on your own. How many people do you know that after their broken leg heals are still using cructhes?
Oral addiction is part of this prison. If you were like me, I used to get panic attacks when I didn't have a can of dip with me. I used sunflower seeds and gobstopper candy just like chew. Until I learned the tools to deal with the craves
On day 50 or so I started working on the oral addiction part, It was, by far, tougher than getting through the nicotine fog. I no longer look like a rabid squirrel all hopped up on sugar. So It CAN be done! Now I keep a bag of sunflower seeds handy as part of my quit plan, still use them, but My life is so much better!
Lav182- I am only on day three, would have to say that if some one wanted or decided to use herbal snuff to get them through a moment where the were fighting temptations and there anxiety might be high, then whats the problem. I did't even know about the herbal snuff until a few days ago, Im very lucky for it, on day one I would have caved, I had the sweats, anxiety at an all time high, but I made it though five minutes of using the herbal stuff and I was focused an on track. I am sick of feeling like this just like all of you. I know the difference I don't crave the herbal stuff, I realize that everyone is different some need to walk before they run, I can tell the difference when I use the herbal and it just reminds me of why I am doing this, why we're all doing this.
to each his own, I used fake for over a year, and then walked away from it with little fan fare. In the beginning it was a huge help. Others , don't like it because it is too close to the actual act of chewing that it actually is a trigger for craves.
If it works for you then its good, if not then use whatever does, a tea bag , a atomic fireball, a rabid howler monkey, it's all good as long as it doesn't have nic.
As far as the prior discussion on accidentally having a dip? What are you two? you may have been " fooled" as you say but you wanted to be fooled. If you took the time you could have figured it out. I assume your a reasonably intellegent guy ( maybe not) , if you REALLY WANTED THIS you would not have made this mistake.
so I call GIANT BULLSHIT. I will give you a blue ribbon for the most creative excuse I've seen yet. Even you, are buying into your own shit. Fact is your an addict and you gave yourself an out to use and then claim oops. Didn't ya feel a bit of the ole poison oozing thru your head? You knew. You may not even admit it to yourself, but you knew, and you had a million options that you choose not to pursue. Why even take the risk?
For your own sake I hope you get an immediate cranialrectalottomy and get back to posting and staying focused this time.
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Time to make it stick. No more trying just gunna hafta man up. This will be my second time to the site. Havent dipped since this morning so tomorow will be my true Day 1 while today will make day 1/2. Im sure I'll completely forget how to do the roll call so will probably need some help with that in the AM as well as some irration management as I have found that to be my biggest handicap with quitting. Looking forward to making it work and helping out Newbies in the future.
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Time to make it stick. No more trying just gunna hafta man up. This will be my second time to the site. Havent dipped since this morning so tomorow will be my true Day 1 while today will make day 1/2. Im sure I'll completely forget how to do the roll call so will probably need some help with that in the AM as well as some irration management as I have found that to be my biggest handicap with quitting. Looking forward to making it work and helping out Newbies in the future.
J crow, if you are quit, today is day 1. Go post roll call and make your promise not to use nicotine for the rest of today. If you wait to make that promise, your quit will be weaker tonight.
Go to the pink welcome center link above, to learn how to post roll call, and post it right now.
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I will wait untill tomorow I would not feel right since I did infact use tobaco today. Mostly out of respect to all of you who stayed nicotine free today. and thanks for pointing me in the direction of info on how to post roll.
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I will wait untill tomorow I would not feel right since I did infact use tobaco today. Mostly out of respect to all of you who stayed nicotine free today. and thanks for pointing me in the direction of info on how to post roll.
No need to wait - Steve is just stating the rules. The day you stop is day #1! You too can make it into the last day for the January 2012 pre-HOF quit group by quiting right now and posting roll call. Mr. Clean and Dipshit both just did it. So can you!
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Allright cool definitely will do then, i just misunderstood the rules I guess and did not want to disrespecting anyone who has been working so hard already Thank you
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I will wait untill tomorow I would not feel right since I did infact use tobaco today. Mostly out of respect to all of you who stayed nicotine free today. and thanks for pointing me in the direction of info on how to post roll.
No need to wait - Steve is just stating the rules. The day you stop is day #1! You too can make it into the last day for the January 2012 pre-HOF quit group by quiting right now and posting roll call. Mr. Clean and Dipshit both just did it. So can you!
Rules are the moment you quit, that's day 1.
Good job.
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Someone wanna just check it out and make sure I did it right, would be much appreciated. kinda confusing for a simpleton like me
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Someone wanna just check it out and make sure I did it right, would be much appreciated. kinda confusing for a simpleton like me
Yes, of the 3 guys who just posted day 1, you win the cookie. Part of the process around here is you share why/how you caved the last time. Let's hear your story so we can all learn from it.
Thanks!
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Just plain ole gave up. Almost felt like by quitting I had given up part of who I was and now I realized start again was giving up who I wanted to be. Time to get back on track and stop being a slave to something that doesn't even weigh 2 ounces. No one should let themselves be pushed around by something that fits in their pocket
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I remember you. You should be around 300 days quit by now. You came in here and talked a big game. You posted roll one day and then fucked us. You gave us some bullshit about how you accidentally used some real dip that you thought was fake dip. You said that we were all full of shit for not believing you and that you didn't need this place. Prolly told us to fuck off, too. I could go find your old introduction, but it's not worth the time. The bottom line is this:
What's different this time? What are you going to do when times get tough to protect your quit? What is your plan?
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I lied. I had to go make sure I was right.
No more bullshit. Let's get this done, jcrowe. Yell if you need anything.
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Yup exactly, I knew someone would remember. And I didn't really fuck you over cus I never lied, I came right out and told you all what happened and was straight forward about it. And undoubtedly there will be some people on here who straight dislike me for it and thats ok too. but i know there will also be people on here who can forgive me being a douchebag and assist me in becoming a better person, and obviously I respect the help that this site can give to people trying to become better people. So take it for what it is, you can be with me or against me, either way I'm still going to make this happen for myself
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Yup exactly, I knew someone would remember. And I didn't really fuck you over cus I never lied, I came right out and told you all what happened and was straight forward about it. And undoubtedly there will be some people on here who straight dislike me for it and thats ok too. but i know there will also be people on here who can forgive me being a douchebag and assist me in becoming a better person, and obviously I respect the help that this site can give to people trying to become better people. So take it for what it is, you can be with me or against me, either way I'm still going to make this happen for myself
Okay.
Why do you want to quit?
What is different this time?
What is your plan when the going gets tough?
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Why do I want to quit? There's gotta be about 10 different reasons. But on the short list would be I'm sick of waking up and having a sore on the inside of my mouth and being scared shitless if it's cancerous or not, and knowing that if I continue one of these days it is going to be. #2 Even buying the cheapest dip their is means your paying 3.50$ a day to potentially end your life. #3 as someone who is trying to bulk up by going to the gym and eating as often as possible it's dumb to chose between eating and packing a dip #4 All the years I've walked around with a lip in all day and not realized what a loser you look like. The list goes on, and when all is said and done there is not a single positive thing about chewing tobacco. As for what I plan to do when times get tough, anything, chew gum, stuff my face with chips or crap food or something, keep my head down and just keep marching through the day, use this forum to let off steam or hit the gym, even if ive already been. whatever i can do to keep myself busy. And as a starter I would like to apologize to everyone past and present quitter weather you were here or not during my past failed attempt and bitching at all of you because i was disapointed in myself
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Shouldn't you be using your original login name?
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This is my original one, I didn't make a new one
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This is my original one, I didn't make a new one
My bad. Okay this isn't an attempt right? This is quit right?
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yessir
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How is it that my girlfriend can chose today over all other days to see how many dumb fucking questions she can ask. And how in the course of 3 hours can she make me want to trip her down the stairs 'Finger' Now a deep breathe, exhale, flip her off when she turns her back and a piece of eclipse gum. And that is how I stay quit today
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You can do this.
I will be :ph43r: you.
Burn your boat. Never again, for any reason.
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I think tthe girl could tell I was getting annoyed and apologized and said no morre questions for the next week. Then on the way home my truck blew a tire(which i had been meaning to replace for months) i was pissed, no not even pissed furious, there had not been a time today that I had wanted to dip more... and then I realized, it was actually a silver lining to my quit, no truck, no way to even get to the store. So now I'm home with no dip and no way to even get to dip, Also with the day off tomorow since I don't have the means to get to work. Theres definitely a force bigger than me that knows its time to stop
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I lied. I had to go make sure I was right.
No more bullshit. Let's get this done, jcrowe. Yell if you need anything.
Did you get bumped from roll yesterday? I didn't see your name on roll even though you logged on yesterday evening. You apparently haven't stopped by yet today.
Are you really ready to quit?
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faggots?
You, mr. Crow, are the one crying like a little girl via an online forum solely designated to help you with your quit. This site is what you make of it.
Clearly, you are not ready to quit. It takes a mature man to put down the tin and never look back. It is apparent you do not qualify. You are not worthy of these guys' attention.