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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Instigator on April 05, 2010, 08:46:00 PM
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Hey guys. Took my last dip four hours ago and want to go on the wagon for good. It was Copenhagen Straight longcut, new flavor at an introductory price. Anyway, glad to be here.
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Hey guys. Took my last dip four hours ago and want to go on the wagon for good. It was Copenhagen Straight longcut, new flavor at an introductory price. Anyway, glad to be here.
WTF?
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?? Did I do something wrong? That was my last dip. I tried to quit a couple of weeks ago but Copenhagen came out with the new flavors at an irresistable price so I caved. Don't want to cave anymore. Want to quit.
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?? Did I do something wrong? That was my last dip. I tried to quit a couple of weeks ago but Copenhagen came out with the new flavors at an irresistable price so I caved. Don't want to cave anymore. Want to quit.
sounds like a sales pitch to me. Great shit at a great price.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Mornings are actually the roughest for me, but I've been steady so far. I'll registered on roll, and that actually helps a lot because I don't want to have to miss a day on the roll.
Face feels better today, headache is less. Don't care what flavors come out today. Sticking to my word.
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Mornings are actually the roughest for me, but I've been steady so far. I'll registered on roll, and that actually helps a lot because I don't want to have to miss a day on the roll.
Face feels better today, headache is less. Don't care what flavors come out today. Sticking to my word.
Sure hope your serious man? Your first couple of posts were just FUCKED UP...hence the reaction you have been seeing. Not typical for early quitters to talk about pretty packaging and discount pricing.
Your last post makes more sense so I'm going to assume your quit is real and you are 100% committed. Were serious motherfuckers in here man. You decide to do this and your balls to the wall accountable for staying quit!!!
Post roll, keep reading, get some phone numbers from your quit group brothers and ABOVE ALL ELSE STAY QUIT!!!!
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Mornings are actually the roughest for me, but I've been steady so far. I'll registered on roll, and that actually helps a lot because I don't want to have to miss a day on the roll.
Face feels better today, headache is less. Don't care what flavors come out today. Sticking to my word.
Sure hope your serious man? Your first couple of posts were just FUCKED UP...hence the reaction you have been seeing. Not typical for early quitters to talk about pretty packaging and discount pricing.
Your last post makes more sense so I'm going to assume your quit is real and you are 100% committed. Were serious motherfuckers in here man. You decide to do this and your balls to the wall accountable for staying quit!!!
Post roll, keep reading, get some phone numbers from your quit group brothers and ABOVE ALL ELSE STAY QUIT!!!!
The first posts were actually trying to explain what had caused my latest relapse. And I think you misquote me, because I don't mention 'pretty packages' or whatever. My point was that before I came on here, I had tried to quit on my own, got just a couple days into in when the new flavors of Copenhagen hit the shelves at bargain prices. I was weak and caved because I didn't even yet have it out of my system.
That said, I like being here because everyone is so serious about it and I realize I need to work hard to tow that line. I realize that when I feel tempted, I need to say it here and take my butt chewings, just like if I were to fall off, I need to be honest and take my beatings to get back on the straight and narrow.
With that, today has actually been a surprisingly good day and I don't miss the garbage...yet.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
;)
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
;)
Oh God. Oh God. 'drool'
'help'
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
_
Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
;)
Oh God. Oh God. 'drool'
'help'
homos.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
_
Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
;)
Oh God. Oh God. 'drool'
'help'
homos.
Poor Instigator has been hijacked by zig-zag assholes.
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Let's hope this brings us new quitters
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.actio ... 4978157622 (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?a...281474978157622)
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Let's hope this brings us new quitters
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.actio ... 4978157622 (http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?a...281474978157622)
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Fixed. Not sure what happened to that link.
Here is likewise the text of the article, but it won't copy the pictures.
"Snuff. Dip. Chew. Snus. It is known by many names, but it's all the same.
Millions of Americans are users of smokeless tobacco products. With the American culture shying away from cigarettes due to public smoking bans, companies like R.J. Reynolds and American Tobacco have embraced the demographic shift to market an increasing number of smokeless tobacco alternatives.
The most popular brands are Skoal, Copenhagen, Grizzly and Kodiak, each with its own distinctive appeal and price strategy. Skoal, for example, is distinct in that it markets its product in several different flavors such as peach, cherry and apple to go along with the standard flavors of straight and wintergreen.
While it is indisputable that smokeless tobacco is less harmful than cigarettes for lung cancer and emphysema, it should not be treated as a safe alternative for smoking.
Many studies have linked the use of smokeless tobacco to increased risks for oral cancer and pancreatic cancer compared to the non-tobacco user. The contents of nicotine and other carcinogens in a typical pinch of dip is actually of a greater concentration than one cigarette.
And, snuff usage is highly addictive.
As the stories circulate about jaws being removed, tongues being cut out and people dying from years of using that little tin of tobacco, more and more people are looking for the way out. A new website, www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org), is to the rescue.
Killthecan.org considers itself a resource of education, posting facts and links about tobacco usage, testimonies by people that have been affected by dip and pictures of what long-term usage can do to the human body.
The site also considers itself a brotherhood. If a person registers and makes it their first 100 days without any tobacco whatsoever, including nicotine gum or patches, you get into the 'Hall of Fame', and you purchase a commemorative coin or knife to celebrate that.
You can also join the forumboard, a community of current and former dip abusers that want to stop and have set up a support system to help each other do just that. Newbies will be denigrated by the old timers. Everyone has to sign a roll thread every day signifying another day clean. Most importantly, the new quitter will find they are not alone, as people that used to dip two cans a day for 30 years have killed the can and given their word that killer tobacco won't enter their mouths.
If you are a dip, snuff, snus, or smokeless tobacco user and are looking for reasons and way to quit for good, check out the brotherhood at www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org). Email me at gstep77507@aol.com (http://mailto:gstep77507@aol.com) if you check it out or have any questions."
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"I'm not obsessed with dipping--I'm obsessed with not!'
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"When the devil tells you just one won't hurt, remind yourself that neither will zero."
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"Food tastes better without dip."
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"Food tastes better without dip."
i dont no man. i like chips an salsa. veggy dip is good to. speshully on like brockaly.
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"Food tastes better without dip."
i dont no man. i like chips an salsa. veggy dip is good to. speshully on like brockaly.
Now, I personally like the cheese dip(s)
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Blowing a wad feels better with clean blood and a clean brain.
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Quit isn't an action--it's a state of being.
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I`d rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy!! Where is Stuart Smally?
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I took my son to the AC/DC concert and I did not have to buy a drink so I could spit through the straw so he would not know I was dipping.
Baby steps but we can do it.
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dip is for faggot girlys addicted to nicotine.
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You wanna quit dip? I can give you three things:
1) advice
2) encouragement
3) all the crap you can take.
The one thing I can't do is quit for you.
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You don't use dip--it uses you.
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Eat pussy, not dip
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Eat pussy, not dip
Glenn, you are a poet!
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Eat pussy, not dip
Glenn, you are a poet!
I'm like the fucking Confucius of quitting dip ain't I?
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Eat pussy, not dip
Glenn, you are a poet!
I'm like the fucking Confucius of quitting dip ain't I?
Yep, but I'm the dip Buddha 'crackup'
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Me: I use to be a dipper.
Buddy: Used to be a dipper?
Me: Yes, a dipper.
Buddy: What made you start dipping in the first place?
Me: I'm an idiot.
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Dick joined KTC in the past.
Dick stayed quit for two weeks.
Dick caved and was never heard from again.
Dick died from oral cancer.
Don't be a Dick.
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Dick joined KTC in the past.
Dick stayed quit for two weeks.
Dick caved and was never heard from again.
Dick died from oral cancer.
Don't be a Dick.
I like that one!
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Dick joined KTC in the past.
Dick stayed quit for two weeks.
Dick caved and was never heard from again.
Dick died from oral cancer.
Don't be a Dick.
I like that one!
I confess it was 'Glenn' inspired in style and genre.
:D
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32 days ago I would have already dipped 1/2 can by lunch...today I don't have to 'excuse myself' so my kids don't know I'm packing a fatty...
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Dick joined KTC in the past.
Dick stayed quit for two weeks.
Dick caved and was never heard from again.
Dick died from oral cancer.
Don't be a Dick.
I like that one!
I confess it was 'Glenn' inspired in style and genre.
:D
ha ha even better now
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Jack says there are 26-28 different known carcinogens in dip.
Jack says oral cancer is one of the hardest to cure.
Jack says the tobacco companies market cans of highly addictive death just to get your three bucks.
Jack says you can lose your tongue, jaw, cheek, voicebox or even life by years of prolonged dipping.
Jack knows all this because, after thirty years of dipping, he died of oral cancer.
If you still dip, you apparently don't know Jack.
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32 days ago I would have already dipped 1/2 can by lunch...today I don't have to 'excuse myself' so my kids don't know I'm packing a fatty...
Aint that the truth. Nice to be nicotine free.
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(*sung to the music of 'To All the Girls I've Loved Before)
To all the cans I've loved before
You stole my money like some cheap whore
I've done my body wrong
My tongue was your thong
To all the cans I've loved before
To all the dip I once obsessed
You tried to steal all my best
For helping cancer grow
I paid a lot I know
For all the cans I've loved before
The winds of death are always blowing
And every time I start to crave
The winds of death continue blowing
And then I refuse to cave
To all the times I ignored my wife
And all her pleas to spare my life
I'm glad KTC came along
I dedicate this song
To all the cans I've loved before
To all my buds who cared for me
Who chatted with me on KTC
They always did their part
To keep me on my chart
Away from the cans I've loved before
The winds of death are always blowing
And every time I start to crave
The winds of death continue blowing
And then I refuse to cave
To all the cans I've loved before
You stole my money like some cheap whore
I've done my body wrong
My tongue was your thong
To all the cans I've loved before
To all the cans I've loved before
You stole my money like some cheap whore
I've done my body wrong
My tongue was your thong
To all the cans I've loved before
--Thank you, thank you verrrra much.
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Nice, Fuck those cans!!! they don't own you anymore!!!
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Good Stuff Instigator.... !!!
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Thank you, gentlemen. Of course, in rereading it a couple of times now, I've come to one conclusion...
I've lost my freaking mind.
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Insanity is quite normal....
Carry on.
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Thank you, gentlemen. Of course, in rereading it a couple of times now, I've come to one conclusion...
I've lost my freaking mind.
Bullshit, that's a mind rediscovered. You're starting to say (and sing) all kinds of things that make actual honest to goodness sense now. Whodathunkit! Once we start running oxygen through the brain pipes instead of turpentine, tar and liar juice, it's amazing the realities that are revealed.
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I know several of you have been tempted to join the dip-nation site to 1) make quit converts and/or 2) make fun of redneck dippers.
I admit, I was one of those people that did join.
I have killed my membership on dip-nation, however. In glancing some of their general discussion groups, I have discovered what I think we all may have suspected...it is made up of the biggest group of redneck, racists mouth-breathers I've had the privilege of meeting on the internet.
I can honestly say that of all the people that post on here, new and vets alike, I don't believe any of my quit brothers have ever spawned from the type of background those 'dippers' are from. I think most of you are like me in that you are average people that struggle with a bad habit.
That said, even as a joke or in fun or even in philantropic intentions, I cannot be associated with people with that mentality that just openly throws around the 'n' word and talks about nooses, the KKK and all that other 'Deliverance' crap.
So, in short...Biff is dead. Long live Biff!!
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fucking sad man.. Biff had a good run though
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fucking sad man.. Biff had a good run though
Yeah, I know. It was fun. Not comfortable with that kind of clientele though. You'll have to PM me if you hear of any good ribs going on over there.
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yeah, i'm out too....
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Erwin Fletcher is still going at it strong with grizzleygirl_07. Or was it GrizzleyGirl_07?
Seeing that crap just re-confirms why I am quit today.
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Erwin Fletcher is still going at it strong with grizzleygirl_07. Or was it GrizzleyGirl_07?
Seeing that crap just re-confirms why I am quit today.
I gathered there was an anti-dip named grizzley girl07, and a pro-dip named grizzly girl07. I don't know if the one with an e was an intentional take off on the other (who am I kidding...of course it was), or if that person is one here anywhere.
But, yeah, I'm with you. Reaffirms a lot of my recent life choices in regards to the dip.
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Erwin Fletcher is still going at it strong with grizzleygirl_07. Or was it GrizzleyGirl_07?
Seeing that crap just re-confirms why I am quit today.
Yeah, dude, that was hilarious! I've been keeping an eye on that one hahahahahahah! Could you imagine dating a woman like that? Really?? Women like THAT really exist??? OMG!
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Just please do KTC a favor and keep this place out of it when/if you head over there. The last thing we need is to be inundated with them trolling over here. It is tough enough to moderate the trolls we have currently without a whole slew of new ones....
Thanks.
:)
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Just please do KTC a favor and keep this place out of it when/if you head over there. The last thing we need is to be inundated with them trolling over here. It is tough enough to moderate the trolls we have currently without a whole slew of new ones....
Thanks.
:)
Uh oh...dad's home.
Ummm...so you guys want to tell him or should I??
(just kidding. we didn't mention KTC--that I know of. May have dropped your email address, but I digress. :rolleyes: )
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
It sometimes takes a bit to make me laugh but you got me there.
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
It sometimes takes a bit to make me laugh but you got me there.
Yeah, I can see this...
"Oh sure, you weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now you come crawling back, expecting us to accept you as a dipper again. You got some explaining to do, then your butt better be posting roll swearing you'll do at least a can tomorrow. You need numbers? Call us when you are tempted to not dip. And don't forget to sign your contract to cave."
Whoa...Bizzaro KTC...Kiss The Can.
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
It sometimes takes a bit to make me laugh but you got me there.
Yeah, I can see this...
"Oh sure, you weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now you come crawling back, expecting us to accept you as a dipper again. You got some explaining to do, then your butt better be posting roll swearing you'll do at least a can tomorrow. You need numbers? Call us when you are tempted to not dip. And don't forget to sign your contract to cave."
Whoa...Bizzaro KTC...Kiss The Can.
that's close but your grammar is a little too well formed.
here I corrected it fors ya'll
"Oh sho'nuff, yo' weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now yo' come crawlin' back, speckin' us t'accepp yo' as a dipper agin. Yo' got some explainin' t'do, then yer booty better be postin' roll swarin' yo'll does at least a kin t'morry. Yo' need numbers? Call us when yer tempped t'not dip. An' doesn't fo'git t'sign yer corntrack t'cave."
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
It sometimes takes a bit to make me laugh but you got me there.
Yeah, I can see this...
"Oh sure, you weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now you come crawling back, expecting us to accept you as a dipper again. You got some explaining to do, then your butt better be posting roll swearing you'll do at least a can tomorrow. You need numbers? Call us when you are tempted to not dip. And don't forget to sign your contract to cave."
Whoa...Bizzaro KTC...Kiss The Can.
that's close but your grammar is a little too well formed.
here I corrected it fors ya'll
"Oh sho'nuff, yo' weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now yo' come crawlin' back, speckin' us t'accepp yo' as a dipper agin. Yo' got some explainin' t'do, then yer booty better be postin' roll swarin' yo'll does at least a kin t'morry. Yo' need numbers? Call us when yer tempped t'not dip. An' doesn't fo'git t'sign yer corntrack t'cave."
TIFFS !!!
'crackup' 'crackup'
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So, if somebody stops posting over there do they assume they've quit, and then bust their balls when they run back to the nic bitch and start posting again?
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
It sometimes takes a bit to make me laugh but you got me there.
Yeah, I can see this...
"Oh sure, you weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now you come crawling back, expecting us to accept you as a dipper again. You got some explaining to do, then your butt better be posting roll swearing you'll do at least a can tomorrow. You need numbers? Call us when you are tempted to not dip. And don't forget to sign your contract to cave."
Whoa...Bizzaro KTC...Kiss The Can.
that's close but your grammar is a little too well formed.
here I corrected it fors ya'll
"Oh sho'nuff, yo' weak-kneed, pussy quitter. Now yo' come crawlin' back, speckin' us t'accepp yo' as a dipper agin. Yo' got some explainin' t'do, then yer booty better be postin' roll swarin' yo'll does at least a kin t'morry. Yo' need numbers? Call us when yer tempped t'not dip. An' doesn't fo'git t'sign yer corntrack t'cave."
I see you've met my family.
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Erwin Fletcher is still going at it strong with grizzleygirl_07. Or was it GrizzleyGirl_07?
Seeing that crap just re-confirms why I am quit today.
Who in the hell would do such a thing?
All I can say is if that was me when I was using then I should have been put out of my misery.
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wow...one year ago, this is how I came in here. So much has changed...so much hasn't. I quit today, that's the most important thing that has not changed.
Of the things that have changed, not sure where to begin. A lotta newbies on here in that twelve month period. Many will stay, many will not. A lotta drama on here in that twelve month period. Not sure how I feel about the drama. Lot of times, it's just plain jackassery. Lot of times, it helps get through the day.
Anyway, no one knows what tomorrow brings. Just get there and quit again.
Gator out.
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There comes a point where hard decisions have to be made. Many times in life, decisions that aren't popular are the ones that are right for you. Today's my day.
I've spent the past hour reading over today's events in April, 2012. I admit, perhaps true to my name, I caused a fair amount of drama at scott h for what was probably honest mistakes in posting roll. I'm known as a wise guy, a smart alec, and a guy that likes to get the last word. As sincere as I can be right now, I have no idea why I did what I did in April, 2012, today. I apologize to that group and scott h in particular.
Those actions have caused me to look at who I am. Believe it or not, I am not the 'gator' character many know me as. I'm a shy, quiet, boring guy. Apparently, computer screens give you more courage and more personality to boot. Not necessarily better personality, but more.
Anyway, back to my decision. Today is day 655--I joined this site on April 5, 2010, a slave to the can. I can't tell you how much this site has done for me in quitting dip. I can't tell you how much I've grown to appreciate everyone on this site.
I have quite a few friends on here, even though I don't know the real names of 99 percent of you on here. We've met in chat. We've posted support together. We've butted heads. Most importantly, we've quit together.
Today, however, I tell you I need a break. I've requested to be relieved as a chat mod. I feel it is time someone else have a turn protecting the 'sanctity' of our little 'ghey' chat club. :D I also don't intend to post roll everyday as I have, give or take a few days, for the past 655 days.
I know what many will say. Gator's planning to cave. Gator's giving up on the philosophy. Gator's turning his back on us. Well, let me say this. After 655 days, posting roll on here everyday does not keep me quit. The realization I'm still an addict and will always be one keeps me quit. The desire to never have cancer keeps me quit. The honest lack of desire to ever put that stuff in my mouth again keeps me quit. So, I'm not planning to cave. I'm not giving up on the philosophy because I think the philosophy of this site is the only chance most of us addicts ever have. And I'm not turning my back on anyone. I've got over two dozen numbers, and will pop in from time to time to see how you guys are doing. Anyone that wants to, pm me anytime, text me, or get my number so we can stay in touch.
So why is gator making this announcement? Honestly, I owe it to you guys. I know every day long time posters quit posting without any explanation or closure. radtech did it and upset many people by just stopping. I don't want that. Bash me for this thread if you want, and many will...but I owe all of you an explanation of what I'm doing and why.
Do I recommend anyone else stop posting? Do I recommend anyone posting forever? It's as we always say on here...take what works, leave the rest. I definitely think the decision to stop posting is one that should not be made lightly. Guy hits hof today, don't think tomorrow you got it beat so I'm not posting. If you need and want to post forever, go for it. If that isn't who you want to be, do everything you can to make sure.
Personally, I know I'll be back posting again, and it won't be a freaking day one. I will not do that to myself or you guys. It will be with all my old groups and probably a few new ones. I just don't know when.
I want to thank chewie for saving my life. I want to thank klark, copehater, redtrain, markr, NOLAQ and wheelchairguy for being my genuine best quit friends. I want to thank all the mods and all the quitters that work so hard in here. I literally cannot list all my friends on here, vets, newbies, doesn't matter. forbes, dippshit, moa, radtech, ryan...the list is endless. The memories and the lessons are too.
Guys, I love you all and, as we say, not in a ghey way.
Thank you.
Greg
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Good luck, counselor. Hope to see you back here one day.
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I'm not to good at goodbyes gheytor... So all I am going to say is thank you. Thank you for all you have done for me, and the rest of this community. May the wind always be on your back, and may the sun always warm your face... Good luck with whatever life brings you, and know you will always have this place to come to when you need it, and you will be missed...
Adam
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Greg -
I got your back, I'm sure we will still stay in contact.
Dave
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Well shit.
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We will see you down the road sir. Thanks for all the help and support you gave me!
Troy
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Gator
Thanks for eveything you did for me those first few months. I cannot thank you enough. As i am not so eloquent with my words as dippy is, I would like to plaguarize what he said...I wish you all the best!!.
Griz/Josh
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Can I still call you at 2am to tell you to fuck off?
Good luck to you gator!!
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Parting is such sweet sorrow.....blah. We'll keep in touch, I got your digits, text or call anytime, line is always open to one of the first KTC guys I met in chat and welcomed me to the club on my day 1.
tarp/rc
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Wha???? :(
Please keep in touch, bro. More importantly, keep quit!!
If things get tough, call the Senator!!
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Gheytor, bummer to see you and your added spice leave. But you have to do what's best for you and I respect that decision. But don't totally abandon us now!!! Good luck with your future endeavors.
Kent/Kdip
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Thank you for saving lives. I appreciate all you have done for me and for others.
With that being said, I understand the view of not wanting to make the time commitment of being a mod. I don't understand why roll call is too much to ask for.
We preach it to the younglings everyday, yet you are going to sit there and say "I'm such a badass quitter that I can and will do it on my own. Nobody has forgotten they were an addict before. Nobody here has let the nicotine fairy sprinkle magic "cured" dust on themselves and eaten some "forgot all my tools" medicine.
And I know I always did something wrong when my girlfriends would give me the "it's not you, it's me" speech.
Come on man. I plan on being in plenty of shitstorms like we saw yesterday. It's the nature of the beast.
You have been a badass quitter from a while now. Don't puss out on me bro. Let me know that you meant those words before and don't truly believe these words now.
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One word G, one word.................
Really?
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Gator, first off, thanks for everything you have done for me and for this site. Second I get retiring from being a mod, and even stepping back from the site a bit. That being said I sincerely hope that this is only temporary and you soon are back to being a regular contributer, you are simply too valuable a member of this community, and this place will be little less without you.
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I ain't worried...I went through a similar place...the June 10 brothers texted me every so often to check up on me and it wasn't long until I was missing the posting and back in the mix. Personally, I thin you're a nut for dropping off, but you do what you feel you need to do.
Gator, I've got faith in your quit. We'll see you around and bet you're back before you know it...you'll miss it... but stay smart about this quit...DONT walk away
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EDIT...
Ok, roll...just roll.
And thanks for the support.
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I'm gonna miss you Brother. Thank you for your service here at KTC and I hope you NEVER FORGET!
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Ok, roll...just roll.
And thanks for the support.
My strongest advice, Gator, is to keep posting roll regardless of the mod stuff. Both you and I know that it's the accountability of roll that keeps us strong. Don't fix what ain't broke . . . .
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Day 372
Today sucked! I wanted to take a dip today 'bang head'Â I was craving it I could taste it I wanted it bad. I made my promise this morning I did not do the unthinkable. However to be honest even while I am writing this I am still thinking about a can of Skoal.
Damn that crap is hard to give up even after a year I can't belive it!
Thanks for your support guys!!! I could not let you down today just the thought of you all here helped me get through the day.
THANKS!!!
Stay Quit!!
Are you serious? I'm on day three. I strive to be where you are and you want a frickin' DIP!!?? Have you lost your mind??
What, you want to push that cancer mush back in your face when I'm still trying to free its grasp for a third g-- d--- day!?
Go back to the pictures and see that dude that has his face sliced open. Stare at that bare jaw bone. That's what me sign up here and I think about it every time I hear the friggin word 'Skoal'.
Instigator, Mark is a fine quitter.
However, being quit for a year does not magically make him immune to craves.
Do you understand what separates Mark from the other caving vagins around here?
First and foremost, he is a man of his WORD. Secondly, he has a PLAN for days like today, and he is smart enough to USE HIS PLAN.
just the thought of you all here helped me get through the day.
I'm guessing that part of Mark's plan to keep quit involves reflecting on the brotherhood and bonds he has formed here at KTC.
Are you starting to understand why Mark isn't what you are implying him to be? He is actually a great example of how you stay the fuck quit.
Thank you Mark, for being a fine example for all of us to follow. Stay strong brother, you know the craves will pass. You know a cave would not be worth it.
Instigator, grab your nuts and hang on. Addiction is fucked up, and it's the real deal. You will not be "cured" after some amount of days. You need to get over that concept. Just worry about today, and don't look ahead. Great job on being quit for 3 days, that is huge! Stay strong, and reach out if you need to.
Instigator congrats on your 3 days. Trust me I have seen those pictures I dipped for 38 years I am still not out of the woods yet. One year does not mean you walk away and forget it forever. I am addicted to nicotine and always will be. The only thing that separates me from going back is 1 dip. That's right 1 freekin dip so I come in here and sound off. If you read this whole thread you will see my whole quit outlined. Read me speech it is on my signature line. This crap has hurt me and my family so if me spilling my guts helped you stay quit for even 5 minutes it was worth it.
This is my sounding board it is part of my quit. These guys here have helped me for the past year. Yea today sucked out of the blue I craved the crap. I would not have used there is a big difference between craving and Caving! I commend you on your quit Thank LA for the support. You are right I gave my word and plan to do so tomorrow.
I encourage everyone to sound off it helps get it out of your system.
Caving is not an option!
Stay quit!!
Reposted from Markr's intro in honor of my Friend and quit Brother Gator my first contact with him.
Stay quit Bro and remember where you came from.
Mark
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Gator my friend... you kept me in line... you are the one who broke thru my bullshit when I came back.
I am glad to see that you will post roll during your vacation... but I look forward to a time, after your break, that you will be back talking shit and keeping us all in line once again.
You have the faith and support of a great many people... at least you know that, and gave us a heads up.
Like I said in my PM... stay in touch if you need anything at all, and I got your digits too.
Rest up. Every great leader needs RR from time to time.
Your friend,
Colonel
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Gator,
You will be missed. If you feel you need a break I support that decision. Chat won't be the same without you. Who's gonna be the straight guy when Keith shows up?
I will be happy when you return. Happy trails friend, and call if you ever feel the need.
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Gator,
You will be missed. If you feel you need a break I support that decision. Chat won't be the same without you. Who's gonna be the straight guy when Keith shows up?
I will be happy when you return. Happy trails friend, and call if you ever feel the need.
Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ BUTTERFLY BUMP Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ THUPER GHEY
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Bullshit.
That's all I got.
Adios.
Vaya con Dios.
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Greg, never really got to know you on this site but have watched you over the last year and all that you have done. You will be missed. Thank you for all of the lives you helped save. Dave
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Perhaps you will take just a small respite like Klark had to do. Hope to see you soon again. Now, go get refreshed. There is more new quit coming down the pike. We will need you.
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See Ya around Gator. I think you manned up by announcing your decision and not just vanishing. I appreciate it and respect your decision. Stay strong.
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Daedalus By Thrice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdkvdpn9KGA)
I stand on the cliffs with my son next to me
This island our prison, our home
And everyday we look out at the sea
This place is all he's ever known
But I've got a plan and some wax and some string;
some feathers I stole from the birds
We leap from the cliff and we hear the wind
sing a song that's too perfect for words
But son, please keep a steady wing
And know your the only one that means anything to me
Steer clear of the sun, or you'll find yourself in the sea
Now safely away, I let out a cry
"We'll make the mainland by noon"
But Icarus climbs higher still in the sky
Maybe I've spoken too soon
Oh son, please keep a steady wing
And know your the only one that means anything to me
Steer clear of the sun, or you'll find yourself in the sea
Won't you look at your wings
They're coming undone
They're splitting at the seams
Steer clear of the sun, for once won't you listen to me?
O, Gods!
Why is this happening to me?
All I wanted was a new life for my son to grow up free
And now you took the only thing that meant anything to me
I will never fly again, I will hang up my wings
O, Gods!
Why is this happening to me?
All I wanted was a new life for my son to grow up free
And now you took the only thing that meant anything to me
I will never fly again, I will hang up my wings!
O, Gods!
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Someone tell me what's going on here. What does "taking a break" mean? I fear it means that somebody thinks they can take a dip? Fuck that.
Look, anyone can make a mistake. But planning to make a mistake...are you fucking kidding me? I hope I am misunderstanding something here.
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Someone tell me what's going on here. What does "taking a break" mean? I fear it means that somebody thinks they can take a dip? Fuck that.
Look, anyone can make a mistake. But planning to make a mistake...are you fucking kidding me? I hope I am misunderstanding something here.
Bean
Gator has decided to step away from his role a s a Moderator but he will post roll. He is not caving nor did he imply that he would cave. Gator is a damn fine quitter I am his first contact if he wants to use again and I can tell you he will call if he needs to.
There comes a time in your quit when you need to back off this place and catch your breath. Most of the long time quitters here have done that at some point in their quit myself included. I have been quit for more than 1,000 days I left for awhile I didn't cave and I came back with a new outlook towards this place and my quit. So give Gator some room let him do what he needs to do. There may be other reasons that he needs to step out of here that he is not telling us and it doesn't involve caving or the BS that happened the other day.
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Thanks for clarifying. Nic free is the key. Stay strong, stay quit!
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There comes a point where hard decisions have to be made. Many times in life, decisions that aren't popular are the ones that are right for you. Today's my day.
I've spent the past hour reading over today's events in April, 2012. I admit, perhaps true to my name, I caused a fair amount of drama at scott h for what was probably honest mistakes in posting roll. I'm known as a wise guy, a smart alec, and a guy that likes to get the last word. As sincere as I can be right now, I have no idea why I did what I did in April, 2012, today. I apologize to that group and scott h in particular.
Those actions have caused me to look at who I am. Believe it or not, I am not the 'gator' character many know me as. I'm a shy, quiet, boring guy. Apparently, computer screens give you more courage and more personality to boot. Not necessarily better personality, but more.
Anyway, back to my decision. Today is day 655--I joined this site on April 5, 2010, a slave to the can. I can't tell you how much this site has done for me in quitting dip. I can't tell you how much I've grown to appreciate everyone on this site.
I have quite a few friends on here, even though I don't know the real names of 99 percent of you on here. We've met in chat. We've posted support together. We've butted heads. Most importantly, we've quit together.
Today, however, I tell you I need a break. I've requested to be relieved as a chat mod. I feel it is time someone else have a turn protecting the 'sanctity' of our little 'ghey' chat club.  :D  I also don't intend to post roll everyday as I have, give or take a few days, for the past 655 days.
I know what many will say. Gator's planning to cave. Gator's giving up on the philosophy. Gator's turning his back on us. Well, let me say this. After 655 days, posting roll on here everyday does not keep me quit. The realization I'm still an addict and will always be one keeps me quit. The desire to never have cancer keeps me quit. The honest lack of desire to ever put that stuff in my mouth again keeps me quit. So, I'm not planning to cave. I'm not giving up on the philosophy because I think the philosophy of this site is the only chance most of us addicts ever have. And I'm not turning my back on anyone. I've got over two dozen numbers, and will pop in from time to time to see how you guys are doing. Anyone that wants to, pm me anytime, text me, or get my number so we can stay in touch.
So why is gator making this announcement? Honestly, I owe it to you guys. I know every day long time posters quit posting without any explanation or closure. radtech did it and upset many people by just stopping. I don't want that. Bash me for this thread if you want, and many will...but I owe all of you an explanation of what I'm doing and why.
Do I recommend anyone else stop posting? Do I recommend anyone posting forever? It's as we always say on here...take what works, leave the rest. I definitely think the decision to stop posting is one that should not be made lightly. Guy hits hof today, don't think tomorrow you got it beat so I'm not posting. If you need and want to post forever, go for it. If that isn't who you want to be, do everything you can to make sure.
Personally, I know I'll be back posting again, and it won't be a freaking day one. I will not do that to myself or you guys. It will be with all my old groups and probably a few new ones. I just don't know when.
I want to thank chewie for saving my life. I want to thank klark, copehater, redtrain, markr, NOLAQ and wheelchairguy for being my genuine best quit friends. I want to thank all the mods and all the quitters that work so hard in here. I literally cannot list all my friends on here, vets, newbies, doesn't matter. forbes, dippshit, moa, radtech, ryan...the list is endless. The memories and the lessons are too.
Guys, I love you all and, as we say, not in a ghey way.
Thank you.
Greg
Break's over. F--- that.
Allow me to elucidate on the above...
I haven't been myself for awhile. I don't know why. Maybe gator needs meds. But a week from this place has done me a lot of good.
I'm back with a vengeance. No excuses...no apologies.
And anyone want to diss me for being all flip-floppy...let me save you the trouble...
Stuff it.
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
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Hee hee! wastepanel!, gator!, everybody getting all fired up!!! My quit is very excited right now!
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Nice!
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
Waste, the problem with the internet is one can't gauge context. I know you were upset with my post from last week. If this particular post is sincere, thanks a bunch. If there is intended Sarcasm, say what you got to say, get it off your chest and let's move on. Not in the mood to play guessing games however.
edit: and you mean I can't type 'sarcasm' without getting the little gay guy with the sign? cripes
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
Waste, the problem with the internet is one can't gauge context. I know you were upset with my post from last week. If this particular post is sincere, thanks a bunch. If there is intended Sarcasm, say what you got to say, get it off your chest and let's move on. Not in the mood to play guessing games however.
edit: and you mean I can't type 'sarcasm' without getting the little gay guy with the sign? cripes
No Sarcasm.
I've had those thoughts before (in the 20s), and I wonder if I'll have them again later.
You've done so much for me and this site that I thought I owed it to you to kick you in the ass. I would want somebody to do the same to me...
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
Waste, the problem with the internet is one can't gauge context. I know you were upset with my post from last week. If this particular post is sincere, thanks a bunch. If there is intended Sarcasm, say what you got to say, get it off your chest and let's move on. Not in the mood to play guessing games however.
edit: and you mean I can't type 'sarcasm' without getting the little gay guy with the sign? cripes
No Sarcasm.
I've had those thoughts before (in the 20s), and I wonder if I'll have them again later.
You've done so much for me and this site that I thought I owed it to you to kick you in the ass. I would want somebody to do the same to me...
Waste I appreciate it and FWIW...had your post been sarcastic, I would have understood.
I know I came off as a 'diva' of sorts and I assure you guys I did not mean to. I probably wouldn't have come back on tonight, but that guy that caved in May after three hours pissed me off and made me realize I was being a doosh.
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
Waste, the problem with the internet is one can't gauge context. I know you were upset with my post from last week. If this particular post is sincere, thanks a bunch. If there is intended Sarcasm, say what you got to say, get it off your chest and let's move on. Not in the mood to play guessing games however.
edit: and you mean I can't type 'sarcasm' without getting the little gay guy with the sign? cripes
No Sarcasm.
I've had those thoughts before (in the 20s), and I wonder if I'll have them again later.
You've done so much for me and this site that I thought I owed it to you to kick you in the ass. I would want somebody to do the same to me...
Waste I appreciate it and FWIW...had your post been sarcastic, I would have understood.
I know I came off as a 'diva' of sorts and I assure you guys I did not mean to. I probably wouldn't have come back on tonight, but that guy that caved in May after three hours pissed me off and made me realize I was being a doosh.
Stop fucking kicking yourself.
Most of us have been there.
No regrets. There's a lesson here.
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Glad you are back.
Proud to have you looking over our shoulders.
Waste, the problem with the internet is one can't gauge context. I know you were upset with my post from last week. If this particular post is sincere, thanks a bunch. If there is intended Sarcasm, say what you got to say, get it off your chest and let's move on. Not in the mood to play guessing games however.
edit: and you mean I can't type 'sarcasm' without getting the little gay guy with the sign? cripes
No Sarcasm.
I've had those thoughts before (in the 20s), and I wonder if I'll have them again later.
You've done so much for me and this site that I thought I owed it to you to kick you in the ass. I would want somebody to do the same to me...
Waste I appreciate it and FWIW...had your post been sarcastic, I would have understood.
I know I came off as a 'diva' of sorts and I assure you guys I did not mean to. I probably wouldn't have come back on tonight, but that guy that caved in May after three hours pissed me off and made me realize I was being a doosh.
Stop fucking kicking yourself.
Most of us have been there.
No regrets. There's a lesson here.
Why don't you two just go ahead and get a room?
'Kiss'
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Ok, so my big departure lasted all of eight days. Welcome back, Gator, you old diva.
So what's up? First let me say that the only reason I'm writing this is because it helps me. And also, guys behind me, you need to know these things are going to come your way.
Last week I thought I was walking away from the site. I still don't know why, but I needed a break. Just post, stay out of chat, not get involved. Someone older and wiser than I told me he had done the same thing at just about the same point in his quit. He told me this too shall pass.
Friday night, last night, I was just lurking about when I saw the douchenozzle in May that posted in his intro that he had caved after three hours, even though he had posted roll. It incensed me that someone had taken quitting so lightly, as it were a game. It incensed me more that a little can of crud has that power of a human.
But, Gator, you walked away, you can't say anything. That's when I realized my break was over. During the last week, I wouldn't have cared enough to want to respond. Last night, I did.
I hope you guys behind me make it to the 650-660 point, and you will if you just do what you are currently doing. Even at that point, there are bumps. Funks. You may need to step away. Don't step completely away, but also don't force yourself into doing more than you feel like doing. The past week, if I had forced myself to be in chat som much, or involved in a group, the burn out may have pushed me away for good.
I do thank everyone for the texts, PMs and posts. The ones of supports were needed, but so were the ones kicking my butt. I apologize only for being a bit dramatic about the situation. But then again, when is this place not dramatic?
Pushing forward,
Gator
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Ok, so my big departure lasted all of eight days. Welcome back, Gator, you old diva.
So what's up? First let me say that the only reason I'm writing this is because it helps me. And also, guys behind me, you need to know these things are going to come your way.
Last week I thought I was walking away from the site. I still don't know why, but I needed a break. Just post, stay out of chat, not get involved. Someone older and wiser than I told me he had done the same thing at just about the same point in his quit. He told me this too shall pass.
Friday night, last night, I was just lurking about when I saw the douchenozzle in May that posted in his intro that he had caved after three hours, even though he had posted roll. It incensed me that someone had taken quitting so lightly, as it were a game. It incensed me more that a little can of crud has that power of a human.
But, Gator, you walked away, you can't say anything. That's when I realized my break was over. During the last week, I wouldn't have cared enough to want to respond. Last night, I did.
I hope you guys behind me make it to the 650-660 point, and you will if you just do what you are currently doing. Even at that point, there are bumps. Funks. You may need to step away. Don't step completely away, but also don't force yourself into doing more than you feel like doing. The past week, if I had forced myself to be in chat som much, or involved in a group, the burn out may have pushed me away for good.
I do thank everyone for the texts, PMs and posts. The ones of supports were needed, but so were the ones kicking my butt. I apologize only for being a bit dramatic about the situation. But then again, when is this place not dramatic?
Pushing forward,
Gator
Nice to see you Gator. Welcome back.
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You're back for all the right reasons! Keep drinking the gatoraide . . . .
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Gator I've never had to wrestle with you but I've been swimming in the wake of your presence in this swamp for a while. Glad you are here bro.
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Ok, so my big departure lasted all of eight days. Welcome back, Gator, you old diva.
So what's up? First let me say that the only reason I'm writing this is because it helps me. And also, guys behind me, you need to know these things are going to come your way.
Last week I thought I was walking away from the site. I still don't know why, but I needed a break. Just post, stay out of chat, not get involved. Someone older and wiser than I told me he had done the same thing at just about the same point in his quit. He told me this too shall pass.
Friday night, last night, I was just lurking about when I saw the douchenozzle in May that posted in his intro that he had caved after three hours, even though he had posted roll. It incensed me that someone had taken quitting so lightly, as it were a game. It incensed me more that a little can of crud has that power of a human.
But, Gator, you walked away, you can't say anything. That's when I realized my break was over. During the last week, I wouldn't have cared enough to want to respond. Last night, I did.
I hope you guys behind me make it to the 650-660 point, and you will if you just do what you are currently doing. Even at that point, there are bumps. Funks. You may need to step away. Don't step completely away, but also don't force yourself into doing more than you feel like doing. The past week, if I had forced myself to be in chat som much, or involved in a group, the burn out may have pushed me away for good.
I do thank everyone for the texts, PMs and posts. The ones of supports were needed, but so were the ones kicking my butt. I apologize only for being a bit dramatic about the situation. But then again, when is this place not dramatic?
Pushing forward,
Gator
:wub:
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Glad you're back, counselor.
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I see your attitude hasn't changed 'crackup'
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I see your attitude hasn't changed 'crackup'
Bully . . . .
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
God, I love this guy!!
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
See, it's the one's like you that go and ruin it for the rest of them....either you aren't getting beat enough ( 'rem' 'bangin' 'stick' 'nutkick' 'tease' ) or you encourage us to be the way we are...in which case all the other "kinder, gentler" quitters hate us! This is ALL YOUR FAULT!!
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
@Gator- Now people are bitching that you are not mean enough. You can not get a win lately.
@Moondawggy- Go eat a bag of dicks. 'na na'
(BTW are you a cavs fan (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/moondog/)?)
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
Who the hell is he confusing Keddy with? :blink:
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
Who the hell is he confusing Keddy with? :blink:
Beats me! 'crackup'
But I'll be keeping an eye on you, Moondawg.
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Not a cav's fan. But that's an interesting link. There's also a hot dog place called moondoggies somewhere. I bet I can get a bag of dicks from them.
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
@Gator- Now people are bitching that you are not mean enough. You can not get a win lately.
@Moondawggy- Go eat a bag of dicks. 'na na'
(BTW are you a cavs fan (http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/moondog/)?)
Moondogs was that bar you only went to if you were looking to pick up some sausage. I like how Moon tried to spell it "dawg" thinking only his fellow two hole stuffers would figure it out.
I think Moon would welcome a bag, Steve.
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
Who the hell is he confusing Keddy with? :blink:
Nice fucking visor, Doc. I mean either put a hat on or don't. You're not Spurrier.
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
Careful what you wish for....
I may be looking for a new pet....
'rem'
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
Who the hell is he confusing Keddy with? :blink:
Nice fucking visor, Doc. I mean either put a hat on or don't. You're not Spurrier.
You are askin for some serious ball bustin, junior...
Don't make fun of my favorite trashy ballcap
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
Careful what you wish for....
I may be looking for a new pet....
'rem'
Back off, NOLAQ.
I found him first.
Besides, he's from my neck of the woods and I doubt anyone from Maine has credibility with him. Down here we all know Mainers take it in the two hole.
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We all know that every new group sees vets bash some returning caver and wonders why someone would be so mean to a guy just trying to quit. I can't tell you how many times I've seen the old, "Well if this is how this site works, I'll get support somewhere else."
Let me direct your attention to the best testimonial we got on this site. There are hundreds of Hall of Fame speeches posted on here. Every one by a bad mofo quitter that at least for 100 days put nic in her place. Read through them. Most of them don't even mention meanies that rough up people. Those that do, probably were roughed up a little in the beginning and thank those that did it. NOBODY to my knowledge has ever posted a HOF speech where they say, "Man, I just wish the site hadn't been so rough at times."
Here's why. When someone goes through 100 days of withdrawing, craving, dip dreaming, raging and rewiring their brains, it all makes sense. This is not a game. That is why we say we don't try. We quit. Your life depends on your attitude to this.
There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap to help them refocus and then went on to be the baddest quitters you'll ever meet. Once that person refocuses, there is no lack of support on here. There are plenty of guys that have caved, taken a little crap and vanished because the crap wasn't worth taking. Translation, a little effort wasn't worth all the trouble.
That's why there are meanies on here. Many think gator is no doubt a meanie. But you actually get to know me, talk to me on chat, I'll do anything for anybody that wants it.
Welcome to the site. Now go screw yourself.
I wish one or more of you "meanies" would come by my intro page, or catch me in chat, or whatever and rough me up some. Do I have to piss one of you off? I appreciate the well wishes and the encouragement from those that offer it, but honestly I'm just not going to respond to it with anything other than an obligatory "thanks."
I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
One of you so called "meanies" fuckin bring it every now and then. I have read it directed at others, and identified with the message of it, gathered some tools, and applied some of them. Hell I used the "Not right now" method that I read off of someone's HOF speech just last night. Sorry I can't remember who's line it was... I read a bunch and they are long as hell.
I realize as I write this that it seems very butterflyish... but I'm reminded of someone else's HOF speech, "I'm not a special butterfly, I'm an addict. Just like you." I'm not seeking special or individual methods, I'm just telling you I'm not a sensitive delicate flower.
Careful what you wish for....
I may be looking for a new pet....
'rem'
Back off, NOLAQ.
I found him first.
Besides, he's from my neck of the woods and I doubt anyone from Maine has credibility with him. Down here we all know Mainers take it in the two hole.
I'll bet gmann and moondawg already know each other! :wub:
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I'm on day 12, and I have forever to go. Literally. At times I'm ok, but most of the time I'm pissed the f off that I have trouble saying no to the bitch. I'm MAD that I'm an ADDICT. I could care less about dip.
Hey, Moon, one of the best things that could happen to you is to get pissed at the nic bitch! Channel that anger/hatred into your quit. When the craves come give nic the finger and move on.
Now get your butt in gear and keep quitting, son!
Keddy, I've read many of your posts. You are a smart and philisophical guy. I respect that. Be a part of my quit.
Who the hell is he confusing Keddy with? :blink:
Nice fucking visor, Doc. I mean either put a hat on or don't. You're not Spurrier.
You are askin for some serious ball bustin, junior...
Don't make fun of my favorite trashy ballcap
All f'n around aside, congrats on the recent 7th floor. That's tits up man.
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I don't know why, but I never cease to be amazed at the amount of repeat quitters in here. Don't get me wrong. Some of my best friends on here have been here before and come back, proving to be among the best quitters there are.
What amazes me is how fine the line is between success and failure. It takes forever to build success, yet just one little second with the wrong decision to be a failure.
Failure is scary, but apparently not scary enough to keep us away. At times, it is like the hot stove. We are the little children that know the stove is hot. We know that one little touch and we get burned. Yet we are always tempted to see if we really can be burned. We tempt the fates of failure, and for what? What do we possibly hope to accomplish by endeavoring in a hopeless chance?
I would recommend that no one ever join on here and post roll unless they are really serious about giving up nicotine. The hard cores on here do not view this as trying, nor as a game. They take it serious. Success turns them on, while failure turns their stomachs.
If you are joining here and you are serious about your quit, you need to make some determinations up front. What are you willing to do to stay quit? Are you willing to give up drinking for a while if that's what it takes? Are you willing to stay away from certain quit buddies if that's what it takes? Are you willing to subject yourself to scrutiny, oversight and even redicule if that's what it takes?
These are the questions you must answer. Ultimately though, it comes down to the final question: Are you brave enough to be a success?
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Well said. Yes, I am always a little dumbfounded by the initial Introduction comments. You see folks join the site and write a paragraph about how they are DONE and then they disappear. Huh????
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Well said.
AG, I know what you mean about people coming in and posting intros and disappearing.
These people are not serious about quitting. They had the great epiphany that they MUST quit now based off of a strong emotional feeling they have. But in the end their desire to quit fizzles away when they realize their pea brain doesn't have the ability to overcome their overabundance of personal weakness.
As for the caving after a period of quit. I might get bitched out for this, but we can't expect 100% of members to be mistake free... yes I said mistake. Sometimes decisions we make are mistakes. It is what someone does with that mistake that tells about their character. Did that caver come immediately back to the site or did they have an extended affair with the bitch?
Some people just do not understand what it means to burn the boat. I agree with the ODAAT mentality because the only thing we control is today. But leaving the possibility for the bitch to take back control of your life is something I fear is more common than we want to admit. Some people just don't want to burn the boat, they want to hold out hope that the craving and desire will completely disappear, and when it doesn't they look for the way out.
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I do feel that no one is perfect and that people can make mistakes. It is, without a doubt, 100% how they respond to that mistake that shows their true charactor. Did they dip all day, did they quit this site or did they say, I messed up, made a mistake but I am still quit. Just tripped a little on my path. Maybe I too will get bitched out but it could happen to any of us.
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The right decision is to not use nicotine. The wrong decision is a mistake. When it comes to nicotine, I damn well expect a 100% mistake free existence for me. I KNOW better. You know what? I expect a 100% mistake free existence from my brothers as well ... To lower your expectation is to leave the door open.
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I do feel that no one is perfect and that people can make mistakes. It is, without a doubt, 100% how they respond to that mistake that shows their true charactor. Did they dip all day, did they quit this site or did they say, I messed up, made a mistake but I am still quit. Just tripped a little on my path. Maybe I too will get bitched out but it could happen to any of us.
NO NO NO NO.
This is gutless nameless caver talk. There is no failure. You are strong and can overcome. When your hour of need hits there are tools. These tools include this site and its members.
There is no reason to ever consume nicotine. None.
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A mistake? Fuck that. Life is all about choices -v good and bad choices with good and bad outcomes. A mistake is cutting too much off the top, or adding numbers incorrectly. It is a choice to chew or not to chew. You cannot mistakenly buy or bum a can, and then mistakenly put it in your mouth.
It is ultimately your choice whether you want to quit or not. Failure cannot be an option when there is no contest. Failure is a choice when it comes to quitting.
On that note, owning your decision, and figuring out why you made it and how you will make a better decision in the future is commendable. An example of this is wastepanle, and another is HKS. Both are some badass quit mofo's now, who made the wrong decision before and now own that shit like the bank owns my house.
They analyzed why they made that choice and figured out what was going on in their addict brain and fixed it so they would not make the wrong decision next time.
They developed a plan and work that plan every day.
And lo and behold, they are quit and helping new quitters daily.
Bad decisions? Sure. Mistakes? Nah. Not buying that excuse.
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What are you willing to do to stay quit?
There is only one correct answer. Anything else is failure.
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The right decision is to not use nicotine. The wrong decision is a mistake. When it comes to nicotine, I damn well expect a 100% mistake free existence for me. I KNOW better. You know what? I expect a 100% mistake free existence from my brothers as well ... To lower your expectation is to leave the door open.
I think you mistook what the conversation was about... CAVERS. They have already done the deed... There is no going back, only going forward for them.
I knew someone would come in with a rebuttal to what I said because this conversation is sacred in these grounds.
After a caver has completely pussed out and sold off all of his/her dignity, they have but one thread of character left. What do they do with it?
As for REAL quitters, this conversation should mean nothing as the boats are burned and the caving will never happen. But where I may differ and strike a chord with others here is that I am willing to admit people who have not solidified their quit can make a decision that ends up a mistake. They may consciously decide to throw in a lip because they don't want to be quit anymore (planned cave), and realize soon after that they have made a mistake. This isn't some Q-Lite shit coming out. It is reality that many do fuck up because they get caught up in the emotion of quitting before they have decided to really burn the boats!
30 and J2B, both of you should be very familiar with this circumstance. Had it happened with our most famous caver (him coming back just a few hours later realizing how stupid it was), you would perceive it different than if he comes back in a year from now.
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I do feel that no one is perfect and that people can make mistakes. It is, without a doubt, 100% how they respond to that mistake that shows their true charactor. Did they dip all day, did they quit this site or did they say, I messed up, made a mistake but I am still quit. Just tripped a little on my path. Maybe I too will get bitched out but it could happen to any of us.
NO NO NO NO.
This is gutless nameless caver talk. There is no failure. You are strong and can overcome. When your hour of need hits there are tools. These tools include this site and its members.
There is no reason to ever consume nicotine. None.
What he said.
My comment had nothing to do with anyone's individual failure. It had to do with people who failed and are currently using. You are now a quitter, and to suggest that if you ever failed again would be another mistake is bunk. You made a mistake the first time, just as every one of us did the 1000 times we tried to quit before.
Right now you DO NOT get that treatment. You are either a 100% quitter or you're not. If for some reason you haven't burnt the boat it is time for you to really dig deep and figure out what is tying you to the can. Why are you symbolically dragging it around behind you? Not saying it is the case but it have obviously happened to you previously.
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Name's gator. I'm closing in on the 12th floor. Been gone a while. Don't ask why.
I've made mistakes on here. I've loved these douchenozzels like brothers and hated them like IRS agents. I've marched shoulder to shoulder with the admins and mods and gotten into internet shouting matches with them.
I'm quit and posting again in my group. Great bunch of guys. I will support this site, the goals and those that run it.
Anyone that needs anything, post it on here. Due to previous stupidity on my part I have no pm. Above all else, stay the course.
Gator
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Interesting. Well, welcome back. 12 floors is pretty awesome.
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Gator! How is it going?
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Gator! How is it going?
Mj! Doing great man. Meant to say still quit BTW. Life is great. Hope you been good. I've got the anger thing more under control so thought it was time to return.
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I'd kinda like a welcome back hug 'welcome' 'Kiss'
Good to see you posting again. See you in chat
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I'd kinda like a welcome back hug 'welcome' 'Kiss'
Good to see you posting again. See you in chat
Hey bro! You wanna hug...fine. But no mouth hugs, capice?
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Oh ferfucksake
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Name's gator. I'm closing in on the 12th floor. Been gone a while. Don't ask why.
I've made mistakes on here. I've loved these douchenozzels like brothers and hated them like IRS agents. I've marched shoulder to shoulder with the admins and mods and gotten into internet shouting matches with them.
I'm quit and posting again in my group. Great bunch of guys. I will support this site, the goals and those that run it.
Anyone that needs anything, post it on here. Due to previous stupidity on my part I have no pm. Above all else, stay the course.
Gator
...gator... :ph43r:
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Oh ferfucksake
Good to see you too loot. Don't worry....best behavior. I promise.
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Name's gator. I'm closing in on the 12th floor. Been gone a while. Don't ask why.
I've made mistakes on here. I've loved these douchenozzels like brothers and hated them like IRS agents. I've marched shoulder to shoulder with the admins and mods and gotten into internet shouting matches with them.
I'm quit and posting again in my group. Great bunch of guys. I will support this site, the goals and those that run it.
Anyone that needs anything, post it on here. Due to previous stupidity on my part I have no pm. Above all else, stay the course.
Gator
...gator... :ph43r:
...spring... 'Remshot'
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:ph43r:
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1200 fucking rocks man.
Proud of you.
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I actually had been wondering but respected you and your quit too much to question you. You make this place better and you here makes my quit stonger, welcome back.
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As Wastepanel said, 1200 is badass. Welcome back.
I also combine all 5 of your intros into this one.
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As Wastepanel said, 1200 is badass. Welcome back.
I also combine all 5 of your intros into this one.
Good work Evil!!!! Proud to have you on the mod team!!!
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Name's gator. I'm closing in on the 12th floor. Been gone a while. Don't ask why.
I've made mistakes on here. I've loved these douchenozzels like brothers and hated them like IRS agents. I've marched shoulder to shoulder with the admins and mods and gotten into internet shouting matches with them.
I'm quit and posting again in my group. Great bunch of guys. I will support this site, the goals and those that run it.
Anyone that needs anything, post it on here. Due to previous stupidity on my part I have no pm. Above all else, stay the course.
Gator
...gator... :ph43r:
...spring... 'Remshot'
Proud to have you back Gator!!! 1200 rocks!!! Keep cool, stay around for a while and stick with the program and you should be able to earn back your PM priveleges.
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I thank you guys that have extended welcomes and well wishes. Thanks to Evil Won, whom I have not met but he seems like a fine fella with a heck of a butt, all my past bs is now lumped back into 'Daily affirmations--affirmed daily'.
Sooooooo.....might as well do all we can to live up to the title, ay?
There have been a few of you to welcome me back congratulating me for being close to the 12th floor (less than 30 days to be close). I thank you guys for that. HOWEVER, as all of us know, it doesn't matter if it is 12 days, 1200 days or 12000 days, it is ALWAYS one day at a time. And every day can be as easy or as hard as we make it.
One of the reasons I was such a prick on here the past few years...besides the fact I'm basically, well, you know, a prick...is that the whole business of quitting can bring out the best, and the worst, in any of us. I don't dislike anyone on here because, but with a couple of exceptions, I've never met anyone on here.
I never meant to cause loot or chewie or anyone any problems. I did not deal well with the new found anger that goes with quitting, even after a couple of years off the stuff.
All of that said, to those of you who are newer, remember...it is what you make it. Every day brings new challenges. You can react just as well...or just as poorly...as any vet. But you gotta take responsibility. Above all else, don't cave. Ever. I'd like to think that any person I've ever pissed off on here would have rather been pissed off by my antics than see me cave. So, do what you gotta do. But do not cave.
Thank you for your attention to your daily affirmation.
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I thank you guys that have extended welcomes and well wishes. Thanks to Evil Won, whom I have not met but he seems like a fine fella with a heck of a butt, all my past bs is now lumped back into 'Daily affirmations--affirmed daily'.
Sooooooo.....might as well do all we can to live up to the title, ay?
There have been a few of you to welcome me back congratulating me for being close to the 12th floor (less than 30 days to be close). I thank you guys for that. HOWEVER, as all of us know, it doesn't matter if it is 12 days, 1200 days or 12000 days, it is ALWAYS one day at a time. And every day can be as easy or as hard as we make it.
One of the reasons I was such a prick on here the past few years...besides the fact I'm basically, well, you know, a prick...is that the whole business of quitting can bring out the best, and the worst, in any of us. I don't dislike anyone on here because, but with a couple of exceptions, I've never met anyone on here.
I never meant to cause loot or chewie or anyone any problems. I did not deal well with the new found anger that goes with quitting, even after a couple of years off the stuff.
All of that said, to those of you who are newer, remember...it is what you make it. Every day brings new challenges. You can react just as well...or just as poorly...as any vet. But you gotta take responsibility. Above all else, don't cave. Ever. I'd like to think that any person I've ever pissed off on here would have rather been pissed off by my antics than see me cave. So, do what you gotta do. But do not cave.
Thank you for your attention to your daily affirmation.
Very good words in here to instigator, I look forward to being able to congratulate you on 1200 days.
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I thank you guys that have extended welcomes and well wishes. Thanks to Evil Won, whom I have not met but he seems like a fine fella with a heck of a butt, all my past bs is now lumped back into 'Daily affirmations--affirmed daily'.Â
Sooooooo.....might as well do all we can to live up to the title, ay?
There have been a few of you to welcome me back congratulating me for being close to the 12th floor (less than 30 days to be close). I thank you guys for that. HOWEVER, as all of us know, it doesn't matter if it is 12 days, 1200 days or 12000 days, it is ALWAYS one day at a time. And every day can be as easy or as hard as we make it.
One of the reasons I was such a prick on here the past few years...besides the fact I'm basically, well, you know, a prick...is that the whole business of quitting can bring out the best, and the worst, in any of us. I don't dislike anyone on here because, but with a couple of exceptions, I've never met anyone on here.
I never meant to cause loot or chewie or anyone any problems. I did not deal well with the new found anger that goes with quitting, even after a couple of years off the stuff.
All of that said, to those of you who are newer, remember...it is what you make it. Every day brings new challenges. You can react just as well...or just as poorly...as any vet. But you gotta take responsibility. Above all else, don't cave. Ever. I'd like to think that any person I've ever pissed off on here would have rather been pissed off by my antics than see me cave. So, do what you gotta do. But do not cave.
Thank you for your attention to your daily affirmation.
Very good words in here to instigator, I look forward to being able to congratulate you on 1200 days.
That's was worth reading! Congrats to seeing the sun rising on 1200!!!
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I thank you guys that have extended welcomes and well wishes. Thanks to Evil Won, whom I have not met but he seems like a fine fella with a heck of a butt, all my past bs is now lumped back into 'Daily affirmations--affirmed daily'.
Sooooooo.....might as well do all we can to live up to the title, ay?
There have been a few of you to welcome me back congratulating me for being close to the 12th floor (less than 30 days to be close). I thank you guys for that. HOWEVER, as all of us know, it doesn't matter if it is 12 days, 1200 days or 12000 days, it is ALWAYS one day at a time. And every day can be as easy or as hard as we make it.
One of the reasons I was such a prick on here the past few years...besides the fact I'm basically, well, you know, a prick...is that the whole business of quitting can bring out the best, and the worst, in any of us. I don't dislike anyone on here because, but with a couple of exceptions, I've never met anyone on here.
I never meant to cause loot or chewie or anyone any problems. I did not deal well with the new found anger that goes with quitting, even after a couple of years off the stuff.
All of that said, to those of you who are newer, remember...it is what you make it. Every day brings new challenges. You can react just as well...or just as poorly...as any vet. But you gotta take responsibility. Above all else, don't cave. Ever. I'd like to think that any person I've ever pissed off on here would have rather been pissed off by my antics than see me cave. So, do what you gotta do. But do not cave.
Thank you for your attention to your daily affirmation.
I hate pricks. All problems can be solved with lollipops and unicorn dust.
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I thank you guys that have extended welcomes and well wishes. Thanks to Evil Won, whom I have not met but he seems like a fine fella with a heck of a butt, all my past bs is now lumped back into 'Daily affirmations--affirmed daily'.Â
Sooooooo.....might as well do all we can to live up to the title, ay?
There have been a few of you to welcome me back congratulating me for being close to the 12th floor (less than 30 days to be close). I thank you guys for that. HOWEVER, as all of us know, it doesn't matter if it is 12 days, 1200 days or 12000 days, it is ALWAYS one day at a time. And every day can be as easy or as hard as we make it.
One of the reasons I was such a prick on here the past few years...besides the fact I'm basically, well, you know, a prick...is that the whole business of quitting can bring out the best, and the worst, in any of us. I don't dislike anyone on here because, but with a couple of exceptions, I've never met anyone on here.
I never meant to cause loot or chewie or anyone any problems. I did not deal well with the new found anger that goes with quitting, even after a couple of years off the stuff.
All of that said, to those of you who are newer, remember...it is what you make it. Every day brings new challenges. You can react just as well...or just as poorly...as any vet. But you gotta take responsibility. Above all else, don't cave. Ever. I'd like to think that any person I've ever pissed off on here would have rather been pissed off by my antics than see me cave. So, do what you gotta do. But do not cave.
Thank you for your attention to your daily affirmation.
I hate pricks. All problems can be solved with lollipops and unicorn dust.
Very interesting thread. Great for new quitters,this was the shit I thrived on, looking forward to seeing more.
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Some of you no doubt quit because something went wrong. You either got a sore inside your cheek, or a lump on your tongue. You then made a deal with the God of your choice...let this be OK and I'll never dip again.
Been there.
Saw somewhere this week Clarque went to the dentist and 99 percent of his cheek tissue has healed. I know you read my blog, so congrats Klark. That's good stuff.
For those of you who quit because of some self diagnosed health problem, here's a warning. After a few weeks, when the lump is gone, or the sore healed, you will be glad you dogged a bullet and tempted to return to your vomit.
Just don't do it. And I write all of this because I know for someone on KTC, that temptation is coming. Prepare for it now.
Gator out.
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Some of you no doubt quit because something went wrong. You either got a sore inside your cheek, or a lump on your tongue. You then made a deal with the God of your choice...let this be OK and I'll never dip again.
Been there.
Saw somewhere this week Clarque went to the dentist and 99 percent of his cheek tissue has healed. I know you read my blog, so congrats Klark. That's good stuff.
For those of you who quit because of some self diagnosed health problem, here's a warning. After a few weeks, when the lump is gone, or the sore healed, you will be glad you dogged a bullet and tempted to return to your vomit.
Just don't do it. And I write all of this because I know for someone on KTC, that temptation is coming. Prepare for it now.
Gator out.
So very true. It is why I caved before..... You CANNOT quit out of fear of cancer! That fear WILL diminish. And then the foundation of your quit is gone. You need a solid foundation, one that is built out of hate for the addiction and what it takes from your life!
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Some of you no doubt quit because something went wrong. You either got a sore inside your cheek, or a lump on your tongue. You then made a deal with the God of your choice...let this be OK and I'll never dip again.
Been there.
Saw somewhere this week Clarque went to the dentist and 99 percent of his cheek tissue has healed. I know you read my blog, so congrats Klark. That's good stuff.
For those of you who quit because of some self diagnosed health problem, here's a warning. After a few weeks, when the lump is gone, or the sore healed, you will be glad you dogged a bullet and tempted to return to your vomit.
Just don't do it. And I write all of this because I know for someone on KTC, that temptation is coming. Prepare for it now.
Gator out.
So very true. It is why I caved before..... You CANNOT quit out of fear of cancer! That fear WILL diminish. And then the foundation of your quit is gone. You need a solid foundation, one that is built out of hate for the addiction and what it takes from your life!
FU Gheytor.
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Some of you no doubt quit because something went wrong. You either got a sore inside your cheek, or a lump on your tongue. You then made a deal with the God of your choice...let this be OK and I'll never dip again.
Been there.
Saw somewhere this week Clarque went to the dentist and 99 percent of his cheek tissue has healed. I know you read my blog, so congrats Klark. That's good stuff.
For those of you who quit because of some self diagnosed health problem, here's a warning. After a few weeks, when the lump is gone, or the sore healed, you will be glad you dogged a bullet and tempted to return to your vomit.
Just don't do it. And I write all of this because I know for someone on KTC, that temptation is coming. Prepare for it now.
Gator out.
So very true. It is why I caved before..... You CANNOT quit out of fear of cancer! That fear WILL diminish. And then the foundation of your quit is gone. You need a solid foundation, one that is built out of hate for the addiction and what it takes from your life!
FU Gheytor.
FU Coach!
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Ok... your Stuart Smalley Daily Affirmations are neat and all but, bro, I need a little more context before I can lay on you the trust some of the other vets have earned by BEING HERE.
There are some miles to your quit, there's a story to be told. If it's painful for you... I get it. BUT... new quitters like me learn from that. We get a clearer roadmap of this whole journey. I read your thread. I, and maybe others, still need more. Some of the implications hint at a li'l dooshbaggery. I'm not gonna trust some cat I've never heard of to pop back in my family, claiming to BE family, and expecting to be included AS family...
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Ok... your Stuart Smalley Daily Affirmations are neat and all but, bro, I need a little more context before I can lay on you the trust some of the other vets have earned by BEING HERE.
There are some miles to your quit, there's a story to be told. If it's painful for you... I get it. BUT... new quitters like me learn from that. We get a clearer roadmap of this whole journey. I read your thread. I, and maybe others, still need more. Some of the implications hint at a li'l dooshbaggery. I'm not gonna trust some cat I've never heard of to pop back in my family, claiming to BE family, and expecting to be included AS family...
I 'm gonna agree with apple. Apple I know. Jake I know. Scott macek I know. Taz i know. You I don't. Would like to know More.
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Ok... your Stuart Smalley Daily Affirmations are neat and all but, bro, I need a little more context before I can lay on you the trust some of the other vets have earned by BEING HERE.
There are some miles to your quit, there's a story to be told. If it's painful for you... I get it. BUT... new quitters like me learn from that. We get a clearer roadmap of this whole journey. I read your thread. I, and maybe others, still need more. Some of the implications hint at a li'l dooshbaggery. I'm not gonna trust some cat I've never heard of to pop back in my family, claiming to BE family, and expecting to be included AS family...
I 'm gonna agree with apple. Apple I know. Jake I know. Scott macek I know. Taz i know. You I don't. Would like to know More.
WTH conversation did I miss???? 'Popcorn'
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I can't speak for apple, I just found it interesting when you jumped on Scot and you hadn't been here for a year. He went through a lot to get back here. Took more of a lashing than I've ever seen (which I understand is not that long). He held it together, kept both feet planted and has proven himself. I know time will tell for him, but me and others are hopeful for him and believe in him.
You on the other hand I didn't know at all. It seemed you were coming in and perhaps getting all that started again. The sight has seen it's share of excitement this month, just wondering if your involvement will be more of the same.
Srans out....
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I can't speak for apple, I just found it interesting when you jumped on Scot and you hadn't been here for a year. He went through a lot to get back here. Took more of a lashing than I've ever seen (which I understand is not that long). He held it together, kept both feet planted and has proven himself. I know time will tell for him, but me and others are hopeful for him and believe in him.
You on the other hand I didn't know at all. It seemed you were coming in and perhaps getting all that started again. The sight has seen it's share of excitement this month, just wondering if your involvement will be more of the same.
Srans out....
Like I said on Scott's thread...I was here when all that went down. He knows why he's getting the reactions he's getting. If he truly has repented, so to speak, he will push on past the criticisms and prove everyone wrong. I hope he does.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I'm sure you understand our concern, as history has a way of repeating itself. The basis of this site is to help people get away from nicotine, specifically smokeless tobacco.
The site works on peer support. Anything brought in and presented to create "sides" is contrary to the ideal of the foundation. We support any and all who wish to be a member of this community, not only for their own good but for the greater good of the cummunity.
Sadly, there are some in society who, for whatever reason(s) have difficulties in life and these can and are often projected into their surroundings. While we have many pages of entertainment, some made purely for distraction and some for the enrichment of the bonds between us, our primary goal is to help people quit smokeless tobacco.
We promote the bonds of friendship and community and must provide some form of protection on that, while maintaining an open mind. This is a difficult balance to keep.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I'm sure you understand our concern, as history has a way of repeating itself. The basis of this site is to help people get away from nicotine, specifically smokeless tobacco.
The site works on peer support. Anything brought in and presented to create "sides" is contrary to the ideal of the foundation. We support any and all who wish to be a member of this community, not only for their own good but for the greater good of the cummunity.
Sadly, there are some in society who, for whatever reason(s) have difficulties in life and these can and are often projected into their surroundings. While we have many pages of entertainment, some made purely for distraction and some for the enrichment of the bonds between us, our primary goal is to help people quit smokeless tobacco.
We promote the bonds of friendship and community and must provide some form of protection on that, while maintaining an open mind. This is a difficult balance to keep.
Mj...your concerns will be your concerns. I cannot do one thing about that. I am just here posting roll and some occasional thoughts. Anyone wants to read them fine. If not fine. I'm not concerned with others' concerns. What got me in trouble last time.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I'm sure you understand our concern, as history has a way of repeating itself. The basis of this site is to help people get away from nicotine, specifically smokeless tobacco.
The site works on peer support. Anything brought in and presented to create "sides" is contrary to the ideal of the foundation. We support any and all who wish to be a member of this community, not only for their own good but for the greater good of the cummunity.
Sadly, there are some in society who, for whatever reason(s) have difficulties in life and these can and are often projected into their surroundings. While we have many pages of entertainment, some made purely for distraction and some for the enrichment of the bonds between us, our primary goal is to help people quit smokeless tobacco.
We promote the bonds of friendship and community and must provide some form of protection on that, while maintaining an open mind. This is a difficult balance to keep.
Mj...your concerns will be your concerns. I cannot do one thing about that. I am just here posting roll and some occasional thoughts. Anyone wants to read them fine. If not fine. I'm not concerned with others' concerns. What got me in trouble last time.
Fair enough gator. Let's stay quit today. I'll be glad to quit with you.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I'm sure you understand our concern, as history has a way of repeating itself. The basis of this site is to help people get away from nicotine, specifically smokeless tobacco.
The site works on peer support. Anything brought in and presented to create "sides" is contrary to the ideal of the foundation. We support any and all who wish to be a member of this community, not only for their own good but for the greater good of the cummunity.
Sadly, there are some in society who, for whatever reason(s) have difficulties in life and these can and are often projected into their surroundings. While we have many pages of entertainment, some made purely for distraction and some for the enrichment of the bonds between us, our primary goal is to help people quit smokeless tobacco.
We promote the bonds of friendship and community and must provide some form of protection on that, while maintaining an open mind. This is a difficult balance to keep.
Mj...your concerns will be your concerns. I cannot do one thing about that. I am just here posting roll and some occasional thoughts. Anyone wants to read them fine. If not fine. I'm not concerned with others' concerns. What got me in trouble last time.
Fair enough gator. Let's stay quit today. I'll be glad to quit with you.
Stand...my feelings exactly. Congrats on the quit and I'll join you today.
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I understand your points and I can tell you guys are serious quitters by the number of posts you have in a short time.
That said, I need not nor am seeking your trust. I am not seeking disciples, followers, acolytes, protegees or minions. I am merely offering lessons I've learned in three years. As they say, take what you want, leave what you don't.
All of that said, there are reasons I will not go into specifics of everything that happened this time last year. It was very hurtful to the site for many more reasons than just me. All I can say is that I regret my role in everything. I was very disrespectful to those that operate the site and I'm sorry. I am actually very proud that through everything that happened that involved much more than just me, chewie, loot and all the admins kept it together.
Gator out.
I'm sure you understand our concern, as history has a way of repeating itself. The basis of this site is to help people get away from nicotine, specifically smokeless tobacco.
The site works on peer support. Anything brought in and presented to create "sides" is contrary to the ideal of the foundation. We support any and all who wish to be a member of this community, not only for their own good but for the greater good of the cummunity.
Sadly, there are some in society who, for whatever reason(s) have difficulties in life and these can and are often projected into their surroundings. While we have many pages of entertainment, some made purely for distraction and some for the enrichment of the bonds between us, our primary goal is to help people quit smokeless tobacco.
We promote the bonds of friendship and community and must provide some form of protection on that, while maintaining an open mind. This is a difficult balance to keep.
Mj...your concerns will be your concerns. I cannot do one thing about that. I am just here posting roll and some occasional thoughts. Anyone wants to read them fine. If not fine. I'm not concerned with others' concerns. What got me in trouble last time.
Fair enough gator. Let's stay quit today. I'll be glad to quit with you.
Stand...my feelings exactly. Congrats on the quit and I'll join you today.
Srans...sorry. stupid auto spell.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.Â
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
A tiger cannot change his strips.
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Daily tip for Sunday...we all have to live with consequences of our actions. Therefore, choose the actions wisely. The choices I have seen bring more failure to a person's quit involve alcohol and associates. If you freshly quit, as you have heard before, lay off the booze and avoid the dipping buddies.
Great thing about ktc...you can find a roll to post to avoid booze. Every pre hofer in a tobacco quit group should post on the alcohol one.
Gator out.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.Â
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
A tiger cannot change his strips.
That's right mj...I guess they can't. Diesel...I never used to be anyone around here. Thought I was. Never was. And that is one of the greatest lessons anyone can learn from me. We are all idiot addicts that need help.
Mj...here it goes. I came back here not for any reason other than I need help. Things have gotten rough and I struggle with the cravings again. That's why I post these things on this thread. I don't care who trusts me or who thinks I'm a bad ass quitter like so many on here think they are. I need to write this stuff to reinforce all the old principles that I haven't thought about in months.
I'm here for me. Maybe someone can learn from my mistakes. But mj, while I understand your concerns, I don't need a mod right now. I don't know what I need but I assure you I got more problems than trying to come here to cause trouble.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.Â
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
A tiger cannot change his strips.
That's right mj...I guess they can't. Diesel...I never used to be anyone around here. Thought I was. Never was. And that is one of the greatest lessons anyone can learn from me. We are all idiot addicts that need help.
Mj...here it goes. I came back here not for any reason other than I need help. Things have gotten rough and I struggle with the cravings again. That's why I post these things on this thread. I don't care who trusts me or who thinks I'm a bad ass quitter like so many on here think they are. I need to write this stuff to reinforce all the old principles that I haven't thought about in months.
I'm here for me. Maybe someone can learn from my mistakes. But mj, while I understand your concerns, I don't need a mod right now. I don't know what I need but I assure you I got more problems than trying to come here to cause trouble.
Home is where your heart is bro. If your heart's in it then welcome home. Seems like it is.
Also...Bon Jovi sucks donkey dick.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.Â
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
A tiger cannot change his strips.
That's right mj...I guess they can't. Diesel...I never used to be anyone around here. Thought I was. Never was. And that is one of the greatest lessons anyone can learn from me. We are all idiot addicts that need help.
Mj...here it goes. I came back here not for any reason other than I need help. Things have gotten rough and I struggle with the cravings again. That's why I post these things on this thread. I don't care who trusts me or who thinks I'm a bad ass quitter like so many on here think they are. I need to write this stuff to reinforce all the old principles that I haven't thought about in months.
I'm here for me. Maybe someone can learn from my mistakes. But mj, while I understand your concerns, I don't need a mod right now. I don't know what I need but I assure you I got more problems than trying to come here to cause trouble.
Home is where your heart is bro. If your heart's in it then welcome home. Seems like it is.
Also...Bon Jovi sucks donkey dick.
You are in trouble...? More specifically your quit is in trouble. You know all the games, you have been quit for a while. Either you have run into a mess of old triggers all at once, or there is something causing you stress is my best guess.
I often find my own concious is my worst enemy when it comes to stress.
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Remember what they say kids. You can't go home again.Â
Klark and so many of you have taught me that very valuable lesson.
Not what Bon Jovi says.
"You take the home from the boy, but not the boy from his home These are my streets, the only life I've ever known, who says you can't go home.
It's alright, it's alright, it's alright, it's alright, its alright.
Who says, you can't go home..."
Bon Jovi is like the smartest guy ever, don't you know?
And you used to be "someone" around here? Child please.
A tiger cannot change his strips.
That's right mj...I guess they can't. Diesel...I never used to be anyone around here. Thought I was. Never was. And that is one of the greatest lessons anyone can learn from me. We are all idiot addicts that need help.
Mj...here it goes. I came back here not for any reason other than I need help. Things have gotten rough and I struggle with the cravings again. That's why I post these things on this thread. I don't care who trusts me or who thinks I'm a bad ass quitter like so many on here think they are. I need to write this stuff to reinforce all the old principles that I haven't thought about in months.
I'm here for me. Maybe someone can learn from my mistakes. But mj, while I understand your concerns, I don't need a mod right now. I don't know what I need but I assure you I got more problems than trying to come here to cause trouble.
Home is where your heart is bro. If your heart's in it then welcome home. Seems like it is.
Also...Bon Jovi sucks donkey dick.
You are in trouble...? More specifically your quit is in trouble. You know all the games, you have been quit for a while. Either you have run into a mess of old triggers all at once, or there is something causing you stress is my best guess.
I often find my own concious is my worst enemy when it comes to stress.
Just a thought or two from a newbie, compared to the days you have piled up. A lot of times newbies state that they will pay forward one day. This is always my reply.
You are paying it forward, you just don't realize it. The newbies need the vets the same as the vets need the newbies.
My thought is, maybe you being gone for a year or so, you have lost some quit zeal. From the few posts you have made so far I can see that you have a lot to offer. Your words of wisdom show that you have been quit for some time and know how to stay quit. The one thing you might have been lacking is passing on the knowledge you have bottled up.
I don't know,,, just a thought. I'm sorry about yesterday,, just being a little cautious. Seen a lot of idiots on here of late. I'm starting to know you a little better and understanding that you are here for the same reason as all of us. Glad to be quit with you.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.
But I will not cave.
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.
But I will not cave.
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Nice.
That's what I'm talking about. I won't apologize for my earlier post... I was voicing my legitimate concern/skepticism. However... Maybe I was a tad premature and needed to see how things or information played out. Blah, blah, blah. Sometimes it's all just noise and I add to it. You need help... We're here for you same as every brother in need. I may be a newb but my quit is the same as yours bro... One Day At A Time. Quit on m'man.
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Instigator, you are very entertaining....and you didn't even have to take your pants off.
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Instigator, you are very entertaining....and you didn't even have to take your pants off.
'crackup'
But he will if you ask nicely
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.
But I will not cave.
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
This is all I was looking for. As long as each one owns his actions it works for me. You do have things to offer. I admit, my concerns with your intentions were colored by the past.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
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Jesus Christ I thought this was RTCG or AN's intro with all the drama in here 'crackup'
You've had my number, use it if you need or speaking of AN, if you pull your pants down sext me 'winker' 'boob'
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Jesus Christ I thought this was RTCG or AN's intro with all the drama in here 'crackup'
You've had my number, use it if you need or speaking of AN, if you pull your pants down sext me 'winker' 'boob'
I am actually waiting for the singing of Kumbaya while sitting around the campfire 'crackup' .
Gator you can shoot me pms anytime you need.
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Jesus Christ I thought this was RTCG or AN's intro with all the drama in here 'crackup'
You've had my number, use it if you need or speaking of AN, if you pull your pants down sext me 'winker'Â 'boob'
I am actually waiting for the singing of Kumbaya while sitting around the campfire 'crackup' .
Gator you can shoot me pms anytime you need.
Was really hoping it would get more exciting so all the girls could pile in and yell for y'all to jump in jello together and send pics. Dogfight! woof
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
What is this, Freudian breakdown?
I'd hate to have you "break me down". I actually pay someone to do that.
The guy was here, he left for whatever reasons, and now is back.
Some questions were raised and answered by him and even Loot.
Why does this have to keep going like the energized bunny? Guys not a Sith Lord...I hope
Let the man be. Let his actions here speak, and let him work out whatever struggles he is having.
This isn't AA, either. My Goodness.
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.Â
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.Â
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
What is this, Freudian breakdown?
I'd hate to have you "break me down". I actually pay someone to do that.
The guy was here, he left for whatever reasons, and now is back.
Some questions were raised and answered by him and even Loot.
Why does this have to keep going like the energized bunny? Guys not a Sith Lord...I hope
Let the man be. Let his actions here speak, and let him work out whatever struggles he is having.
This isn't AA, either. My Goodness.
re-read it diesel.
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.Â
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.Â
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
What is this, Freudian breakdown?
I'd hate to have you "break me down". I actually pay someone to do that.
The guy was here, he left for whatever reasons, and now is back.
Some questions were raised and answered by him and even Loot.
Why does this have to keep going like the energized bunny? Guys not a Sith Lord...I hope
Let the man be. Let his actions here speak, and let him work out whatever struggles he is having.
This isn't AA, either. My Goodness.
Diesel...there is a reason I appreciate thor's post. Thor and I go back to the beginning and I know his struggles in not only tobacco but alcohol. Were it not for the fact he and have discussed this many a time in chat, I too could possibly blow this off.
But I can't. I know he knows of what he speaks from both perspeectives.
Let me give you an insight into what's going on with me right now, because this does actually fit right in with what mj says.
Here are my primary stressors right now. Please remember in a previous post I said that none, by themselves, are that big a deal. However, added up, I've been struggling.
First, for you old timers, you remember a couple of years ago I went through a few months of serious neck issues. The issues are back with a vengeneance. I am in pain every waking moment of the day. However, my wife has a herniated disc and will likely need surgery in the fall. Therefore, can't even risk a doctor's visit because I don't want the prognosis.
Second, when I took this special assignment at work, I was told when it was over I would come back to my old job. Now, a year and half later, my boss tells me I still got a job, but he doesn't know where. That wasn't the original agreement and now the uncertainty and distrust is causing major anxiety.
Next, I have ballooned to 210 pounds from 182. In the old days, mid meal snacking was replaced with dip. Now as I become bloated Elvis, there is a dark side telling me I can kill my appetite by dipping.
My spiritual life has become quite shallow. My blood pressure issues has gotten out of control again.
I don't say all of that because I expect anyone to actually care that much. I guess it just felt good to get all that out there and also demonstrate that mj is quite right. If I don't refocus on outlets, I will continue to struggle.
Actually, part of why I am back here. This place was one of the greatest outlets for me. Chat, fighting with newbs and vets alike. Getting involved in other people's quits. Staying involved is a big help.
And I do appreciate all the support from all of you. Like a 'newb', I drink it all in.
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.Â
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.Â
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
What is this, Freudian breakdown?
I'd hate to have you "break me down". I actually pay someone to do that.
The guy was here, he left for whatever reasons, and now is back.
Some questions were raised and answered by him and even Loot.
Why does this have to keep going like the energized bunny? Guys not a Sith Lord...I hope
Let the man be. Let his actions here speak, and let him work out whatever struggles he is having.
This isn't AA, either. My Goodness.
Diesel...there is a reason I appreciate thor's post. Thor and I go back to the beginning and I know his struggles in not only tobacco but alcohol. Were it not for the fact he and have discussed this many a time in chat, I too could possibly blow this off.
But I can't. I know he knows of what he speaks from both perspeectives.
Let me give you an insight into what's going on with me right now, because this does actually fit right in with what mj says.
Here are my primary stressors right now. Please remember in a previous post I said that none, by themselves, are that big a deal. However, added up, I've been struggling.
First, for you old timers, you remember a couple of years ago I went through a few months of serious neck issues. The issues are back with a vengeneance. I am in pain every waking moment of the day. However, my wife has a herniated disc and will likely need surgery in the fall. Therefore, can't even risk a doctor's visit because I don't want the prognosis.
Second, when I took this special assignment at work, I was told when it was over I would come back to my old job. Now, a year and half later, my boss tells me I still got a job, but he doesn't know where. That wasn't the original agreement and now the uncertainty and distrust is causing major anxiety.
Next, I have ballooned to 210 pounds from 182. In the old days, mid meal snacking was replaced with dip. Now as I become bloated Elvis, there is a dark side telling me I can kill my appetite by dipping.
My spiritual life has become quite shallow. My blood pressure issues has gotten out of control again.
I don't say all of that because I expect anyone to actually care that much. I guess it just felt good to get all that out there and also demonstrate that mj is quite right. If I don't refocus on outlets, I will continue to struggle.
Actually, part of why I am back here. This place was one of the greatest outlets for me. Chat, fighting with newbs and vets alike. Getting involved in other people's quits. Staying involved is a big help.
And I do appreciate all the support from all of you. Like a 'newb', I drink it all in.
Enraged Thor?
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So now you are having trouble, but you've been clean for a while. I think I know what is going on. This is very common in AA, and is usually a critical point in sobriety. It will make it or break it.Â
People get in there, get cleaned up and do the first ten steps, everything seems honky dory. The 12th step, passing it on is important in keeping AA alive, and keeps you on your toes. The 11th step, many ignore. This is "prayer and meditation". Just keep reading.
The problem you are experiencing is that for many years you relied on a drug to keep you calm, help you think etc. Now it is gone and you have not replaced it.
Nature abhores a vaccuum and that is what you now have, so many of the problems the drug solved for you are continuing. These are not outside issues, they are inside issues. Dealing with stress and anxiety etc. It isn't always a "hostile" stress or anxiety either. My most dangerous times for my sobriety are when things are good. I want to make them better and what could do a better job then a large frosted glass of St. Pauli Girl Dark...
Enough of the problem, now for a solution. I mentioned the eleventh step of AA for a reason. This incorporates a new coping mechanism. My weapons of choice are meditation, and the gym. The meditation is a foundation of my spiritual/religious beliefs and so is suprisingly the gym. To have a healthy mind, you must have a healthy body. Both of these increase endorphines which help you deal with stress and anxiety.Â
Basically, add something to your life that will help you deal with the stress. This is a normal function, that we, as addicts have put off or not used because we have our little helper to take care of it for us. Now the little helper is gone.
What is this, Freudian breakdown?
I'd hate to have you "break me down". I actually pay someone to do that.
The guy was here, he left for whatever reasons, and now is back.
Some questions were raised and answered by him and even Loot.
Why does this have to keep going like the energized bunny? Guys not a Sith Lord...I hope
Let the man be. Let his actions here speak, and let him work out whatever struggles he is having.
This isn't AA, either. My Goodness.
Diesel...there is a reason I appreciate thor's post. Thor and I go back to the beginning and I know his struggles in not only tobacco but alcohol. Were it not for the fact he and have discussed this many a time in chat, I too could possibly blow this off.
But I can't. I know he knows of what he speaks from both perspeectives.
Let me give you an insight into what's going on with me right now, because this does actually fit right in with what mj says.
Here are my primary stressors right now. Please remember in a previous post I said that none, by themselves, are that big a deal. However, added up, I've been struggling.
First, for you old timers, you remember a couple of years ago I went through a few months of serious neck issues. The issues are back with a vengeneance. I am in pain every waking moment of the day. However, my wife has a herniated disc and will likely need surgery in the fall. Therefore, can't even risk a doctor's visit because I don't want the prognosis.
Second, when I took this special assignment at work, I was told when it was over I would come back to my old job. Now, a year and half later, my boss tells me I still got a job, but he doesn't know where. That wasn't the original agreement and now the uncertainty and distrust is causing major anxiety.
Next, I have ballooned to 210 pounds from 182. In the old days, mid meal snacking was replaced with dip. Now as I become bloated Elvis, there is a dark side telling me I can kill my appetite by dipping.
My spiritual life has become quite shallow. My blood pressure issues has gotten out of control again.
I don't say all of that because I expect anyone to actually care that much. I guess it just felt good to get all that out there and also demonstrate that mj is quite right. If I don't refocus on outlets, I will continue to struggle.
Actually, part of why I am back here. This place was one of the greatest outlets for me. Chat, fighting with newbs and vets alike. Getting involved in other people's quits. Staying involved is a big help.
And I do appreciate all the support from all of you. Like a 'newb', I drink it all in.
Enraged Thor?
I'm sorry...I meant mj...in the old days, he was 'thor's hammer'...which is the same as mjollnir. still in chat sometimes I slip and call him thor.
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I opened a roll in the Meditation Group. I'm inviting you to join me there. It may help you get your feet back on the ground, or atleast get enough control of your eating that you can see them again...
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Jesus Christ I thought this was RTCG or AN's intro with all the drama in here 'crackup'
You've had my number, use it if you need or speaking of AN, if you pull your pants down sext me 'winker'Â 'boob'
I am actually waiting for the singing of Kumbaya while sitting around the campfire 'crackup' .
Gator you can shoot me pms anytime you need.
Was really hoping it would get more exciting so all the girls could pile in and yell for y'all to jump in jello together and send pics. Dogfight! woof
Sorry, LHG, but it's 'cockfight'. :P
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Jesus Christ I thought this was RTCG or AN's intro with all the drama in here 'crackup'
You've had my number, use it if you need or speaking of AN, if you pull your pants down sext me 'winker'Â 'boob'
I am actually waiting for the singing of Kumbaya while sitting around the campfire 'crackup' .
Gator you can shoot me pms anytime you need.
Was really hoping it would get more exciting so all the girls could pile in and yell for y'all to jump in jello together and send pics. Dogfight! woof
Sorry, LHG, but it's 'cockfight'. :P
Yes! Ha!!
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
Sent an email to the AOL acct you used to register.
PS. Who the hell use AOL anymore? So gay....
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
Sent an email to the AOL acct you used to register.
PS. Who the hell use AOL anymore? So gay....
'embarrassed'
I still have Hotmail account as my primary email. I opened it in 1995.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
Sent an email to the AOL acct you used to register.
PS. Who the hell use AOL anymore? So gay....
'embarrassed'
I still have Hotmail account as my primary email. I opened it in 1995.
me too back when all the letters you could have where what I have for a name my is supposed to be trauma magnet... traumagnet@hotmail Gator if you need an extra Email to send to.
T
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
Sent an email to the AOL acct you used to register.
PS. Who the hell use AOL anymore? So gay....
'embarrassed'
I still have Hotmail account as my primary email. I opened it in 1995.
me too back when all the letters you could have where what I have for a name my is supposed to be trauma magnet... traumagnet@hotmail Gator if you need an extra Email to send to.
T
Thank you, trauam. Thanks, loot, waste, all you folks.
MJ...couldn't find your medidation group.
However, did hit the gym this morning bright and early. Felt great. ONce certainly is not the cure all, but I get it. Refocus on all the positive goals. All I do and stay quit.
Gator.
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In full disclosure...I posted a smart alec post late last night mentioning klark. klark and I were in chat together last night and we blew each other off. I got pissed and posted that post. That was wrong of me. There are legit reasons klark won't talk to me. There are legit reasons mj and most of the mods are looking at me with a great deal of intensity. I apologize to them and to klark.
As to everything else, my stressors and triggers aren't major...i.e. no relative dying of some disease or anything. I do have a lot going on at once right now. Things that, individually, would be no big thing. However, I have found thoughts creeping through my head when things happen like, "God I could use a dip," or "One won't hurt."
It scares the piss out of me, I will not lie.
I know there is a fair amount of hypocrisy to be had in coming back here. It wasn't an easy decision. I was a jackass that said bad things and did bad things. All I can do is apologize.Â
But I will not cave.Â
Mj, I was wrong earlier in my post to you. I do need a mod. That is, I need and want anyone on here to call me out when my focus gets shifted. If I'm being a douche in here or on chat, lay me out. Quitting is the only reason I am back and that is where I need to stay.
Thanks for listening.
Most of us on this site have been dicks to each other at some point or another. It's part of being a family. All you can do is forgive from your side. If it is not reciprocated, it's on them. Let them carry the angst. It's their burden. Not yours bro. Let it go from your side and move on with life.
Personally, LOOT's all but forgotten why you once made his shit list and frankly has no interest in dredging it up. Your current intentions will reveal themselves in due time. If your intentions are impure, you, like others before you, will find yourself on the outside looking in, permanently.
Just do yourself a favor. Identify those that are going to hate irregardless and steer clear. We find ourselves with much of the same hate club bro, you are in good company...the difference is LOOT can poke with a stick...you can't. Don't engage the haters, in your intro or in chat. If it finds its way in here from outside your keyboard, it can and will be cleaned up.
Families are awesome most of the time. They can be a bummer at others. Just remember, it takes two bro. You have to be a willing participant either way.
If you need an ear, LOOT will turn on your PM long enough to get you an email addy so we can talk outside the public eye. Just say the word. The last thing we need is for you to be an active addict.
There...that's LOOT's nugget for you today. Heed it or don't, your call.
PS. You've apologized enough. Move on. Let the haters hate.
Loot I'll take that offer any day. Shoot me an email please. I appreciate it greatly.
Sent an email to the AOL acct you used to register.
PS. Who the hell use AOL anymore? So gay....
'embarrassed'
I still have Hotmail account as my primary email. I opened it in 1995.
me too back when all the letters you could have where what I have for a name my is supposed to be trauma magnet... traumagnet@hotmail Gator if you need an extra Email to send to.
T
Thank you, trauam. Thanks, loot, waste, all you folks.
MJ...couldn't find your medidation group.
However, did hit the gym this morning bright and early. Felt great. ONce certainly is not the cure all, but I get it. Refocus on all the positive goals. All I do and stay quit.
Gator.
Gator, I am like loot. I don't even remember all the details from the past that got you on the wrong side of certain folks. I was never directly a party to any of that. What I remember is you were very active in chat during the day and I used to like to talk to you. Its time for both sides to bury the hatchet and get on to quitting and helping others at the same time you strengthen your quit!!! Send me an email to the GAY email address of kabldg@aol.com (http://mailto:kabldg@aol.com) and I will send you my digits.
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The last thing I want to do is to draw attention to you but I have had enough. Let me get out the most important part, as of right now, i would NEVER TRUST YOU with any part of my quit. You portray this image of the fact that you ignored a message from me? Try 6 over a 2 month period. WE DECIDED to ignore each other in chat? No, I put you on ignore the second I saw you there, if you said something I did not see it so do not protray anything that happen was a mutual decision. Also, do not take anything I say and use it to pretend you are helping people, I don't want my reputation damaged.
You had the chance to become a better person, you didn't take it and I will not let you drag me with you. You are a hypocritic scum bag who wants everyone to feel sorry for you, the problem is you had support and ignored it. I suggest you go look up the definition of brotherhood, you practice the opposite and I will not let you take away from here what people with a soul built.
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The last thing I want to do is to draw attention to you but I have had enough. Let me get out the most important part, as of right now, i would NEVER TRUST YOU with any part of my quit. You portray this image of the fact that you ignored a message from me? Try 6 over a 2 month period. WE DECIDED to ignore each other in chat? No, I put you on ignore the second I saw you there, if you said something I did not see it so do not protray anything that happen was a mutual decision. Also, do not take anything I say and use it to pretend you are helping people, I don't want my reputation damaged.
You had the chance to become a better person, you didn't take it and I will not let you drag me with you. You are a hypocritic scum bag who wants everyone to feel sorry for you, the problem is you had support and ignored it. I suggest you go look up the definition of brotherhood, you practice the opposite and I will not let you take away from here what people with a soul built.
Kevin
In the old days, gator would respond to this with as much bitter hatred as possible. Always trying to be to most clever, the most witty.
But pal, I'm no hypocrite. I'll be the first to tell everyone I have a good side and a bad side. I have said and done hurtful things through my life due to anger management issues, paranoia and bitterness. But I've also helped a lot of folks out and not just in here.
Guess what? Everybody has a good and bad side. You think you don't? Call me if you dare and we can reminisce for an hour going down memory lane.
But I am not dancing this one with you. I am trying to be a better person in a better place. I texted you to reach out. Nuthin. I posted a public apology in your group. Nothing. You and I saw each other in chat just before you wrote this. I sent you a private message telling you to lay into me because I acknowledge I did wrong and deserve it.
You didn't answer. But you didn't have me on ignore today because you responded to something I said with a rant before disappearing before I could respond. But you wouldn't deal personally with me. You brought it here. Fine.
All that said...you aren't done with me. I am done with you. I have made efforts to make amends. You have every right to reject those efforts. But I have every right to let it go and not let you stand between me and the place I want to be. I just hope someday you can find that better place too.
Greg
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Gator,
Grace has been extended to you. I earnestly hope you make the most of it.
30.
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The last thing I want to do is to draw attention to you but I have had enough. Let me get out the most important part, as of right now, i would NEVER TRUST YOU with any part of my quit. You portray this image of the fact that you ignored a message from me? Try 6 over a 2 month period. WE DECIDED to ignore each other in chat? No, I put you on ignore the second I saw you there, if you said something I did not see it so do not protray anything that happen was a mutual decision. Also, do not take anything I say and use it to pretend you are helping people, I don't want my reputation damaged.Â
You had the chance to become a better person, you didn't take it and I will not let you drag me with you. You are a hypocritic scum bag who wants everyone to feel sorry for you, the problem is you had support and ignored it. I suggest you go look up the definition of brotherhood, you practice the opposite and I will not let you take away from here what people with a soul built.
Kevin
In the old days, gator would respond to this with as much bitter hatred as possible. Always trying to be to most clever, the most witty.
But pal, I'm no hypocrite. I'll be the first to tell everyone I have a good side and a bad side. I have said and done hurtful things through my life due to anger management issues, paranoia and bitterness. But I've also helped a lot of folks out and not just in here.
Guess what? Everybody has a good and bad side. You think you don't? Call me if you dare and we can reminisce for an hour going down memory lane.
But I am not dancing this one with you. I am trying to be a better person in a better place. I texted you to reach out. Nuthin. I posted a public apology in your group. Nothing. You and I saw each other in chat just before you wrote this. I sent you a private message telling you to lay into me because I acknowledge I did wrong and deserve it.
You didn't answer. But you didn't have me on ignore today because you responded to something I said with a rant before disappearing before I could respond. But you wouldn't deal personally with me. You brought it here. Fine.
All that said...you aren't done with me. I am done with you. I have made efforts to make amends. You have every right to reject those efforts. But I have every right to let it go and not let you stand between me and the place I want to be. I just hope someday you can find that better place too.
Greg
And so everyone understands...Klark is mad at me for ignoring six texts over the past several months. That was why I issued a public apology and admitted I had mistreated him as a friend. I have no excuse.
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The last thing I want to do is to draw attention to you but I have had enough. Let me get out the most important part, as of right now, i would NEVER TRUST YOU with any part of my quit. You portray this image of the fact that you ignored a message from me? Try 6 over a 2 month period. WE DECIDED to ignore each other in chat? No, I put you on ignore the second I saw you there, if you said something I did not see it so do not protray anything that happen was a mutual decision. Also, do not take anything I say and use it to pretend you are helping people, I don't want my reputation damaged.Â
You had the chance to become a better person, you didn't take it and I will not let you drag me with you. You are a hypocritic scum bag who wants everyone to feel sorry for you, the problem is you had support and ignored it. I suggest you go look up the definition of brotherhood, you practice the opposite and I will not let you take away from here what people with a soul built.
Kevin
In the old days, gator would respond to this with as much bitter hatred as possible. Always trying to be to most clever, the most witty.
But pal, I'm no hypocrite. I'll be the first to tell everyone I have a good side and a bad side. I have said and done hurtful things through my life due to anger management issues, paranoia and bitterness. But I've also helped a lot of folks out and not just in here.
Guess what? Everybody has a good and bad side. You think you don't? Call me if you dare and we can reminisce for an hour going down memory lane.
But I am not dancing this one with you. I am trying to be a better person in a better place. I texted you to reach out. Nuthin. I posted a public apology in your group. Nothing. You and I saw each other in chat just before you wrote this. I sent you a private message telling you to lay into me because I acknowledge I did wrong and deserve it.
You didn't answer. But you didn't have me on ignore today because you responded to something I said with a rant before disappearing before I could respond. But you wouldn't deal personally with me. You brought it here. Fine.
All that said...you aren't done with me. I am done with you. I have made efforts to make amends. You have every right to reject those efforts. But I have every right to let it go and not let you stand between me and the place I want to be. I just hope someday you can find that better place too.
Greg
And so everyone understands...Klark is mad at me for ignoring six texts over the past several months. That was why I issued a public apology and admitted I had mistreated him as a friend. I have no excuse.
Hold up...trying to get it all out...I also defriended Klark on Facebook and didn't return his calls. That was a jackass reaction to all on the site and not directed to Kevin, but I was wrong all around. I'm trying to confess all because I am truly sorry to all and esp. Kevin. Again...no excuses. And I was wrong to even respond to Klark below. because he had every right to rip me.
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Ok...it's Tuesday, July 2, and today's daily affirmation will be in the form of an actual affirmation and not the low-rent melodrama that has so far marked my return.
Ahem...
So today I'm coming in to work. I work in the city, so I have to walk past all of these office buildings. Invariably, there are people standing outside, first thing in the morning, smoking.
At first, gator shakes his head in judgment. I mean, come on. Think about being a slave to a little white stick of tobacco to the point where you gotta walk outside, whether it is 10 degrees or 110 degrees, and smoke. You people gotta be the dumbest sheep on the planet.
Uh...not so fast there, gator. There was a time where I too was a sheep. I didn't have to go outside in inclement weather to engage in stupidity, but my stupidity was marked by spitters, fatties and empty cans of dirt in my garbage can.
Ladies and gentlemen...it is time to reclaim your life. If you buy a pack of smokes or a tin of dip today, you are giving in to the bizarre hold tobacco has on your body. This hold makes you do very dumb things just so you too can possibly win cancer, gum disease, emphysema (???), heart disease, etc.
It is not worth it. Many people on here, especially 'newbs', that read this post will at some point today think about dip. Some may even struggle with the thought of buying a tin. One won't hurt. I'll quit again tomorrow.
Baloney. It is not worth it under any circumstance. Think twice and don't. If that doesn't work, find you a desk drawer, slip your nuts in it, and then slam shut repeatedly until you pass out or the crave goes away.
It works I promise.
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Where are the Daily affirmations you are behind like 7 days Gator...
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Baloney. It is not worth it under any circumstance. Think twice and don't. If that doesn't work, find you a desk drawer, slip your nuts in it, and then slam shut repeatedly until you pass out or the crave goes away.
It works I promise.
Now that is commitment! Bring out the big gun baby! 'tanks'
Its hard to put in a fattie when your 'puking' from your nuts gettin smashed. lol
Sounds like gator knows firsthand.
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Where are the Daily affirmations you are behind like 7 days Gator...
Frankly, I have been enjoying Luby's stuff so much lately, I have deferred to him. There is currently nothing that I can say that Luby is not currently saying as well. Luby's a champ.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
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I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
If you don't die from being a fatty by then!
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel good when I...
'fat'
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel when I...
'fat'
I'm working on the beer part myself. After 12 hours at a dealership it seems to be the easiest way to unwind. Kinda sad huh? Sounds vaguely similar to chew... Maybe I need to think about that more.... See this thread is making me think. Thank you Instigator!
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel when I...
'fat'
I'm working on the beer part myself. After 12 hours at a dealership it seems to be the easiest way to unwind. Kinda sad huh? Sounds vaguely similar to chew... Maybe I need to think about that more.... See this thread is making me think. Thank you Instigator!
was gonna say seems like my beer consumption has gone up since dip dropped off. I should look at that too. Dont wanna have to post roll here and at some kill the beer can site too. Also was gonna say see our teachings at KTC are being applied.
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel when I...
'fat'
I'm working on the beer part myself. After 12 hours at a dealership it seems to be the easiest way to unwind. Kinda sad huh? Sounds vaguely similar to chew... Maybe I need to think about that more.... See this thread is making me think. Thank you Instigator!
was gonna say seems like my beer consumption has gone up since dip dropped off. I should look at that too. Dont wanna have to post roll here and at some kill the beer can site too. Also was gonna say see our teachings at KTC are being applied. I
Trauma, I've actually thought about that over the last 2 months. I do drink more. I don't think I drink a lot... But it takes away some of the tension, so I find I may have a couple extra after work. Probably not cool! I would feel like the biggest asshole alive if I quit chew and had to then face an alcohol addiction. Instigator.... I think you have made me think hard enough to want to take a break from beer. I'd probably lose weight even faster.... That way I don't total Traumas truck when he runs me over later!!!!
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel when I...
'fat'
I'm working on the beer part myself. After 12 hours at a dealership it seems to be the easiest way to unwind. Kinda sad huh? Sounds vaguely similar to chew... Maybe I need to think about that more.... See this thread is making me think. Thank you Instigator!
was gonna say seems like my beer consumption has gone up since dip dropped off. I should look at that too. Dont wanna have to post roll here and at some kill the beer can site too. Also was gonna say see our teachings at KTC are being applied. I
Trauma, I've actually thought about that over the last 2 months. I do drink more. I don't think I drink a lot... But it takes away some of the tension, so I find I may have a couple extra after work. Probably not cool! I would feel like the biggest asshole alive if I quit chew and had to then face an alcohol addiction. Instigator.... I think you have made me think hard enough to want to take a break from beer. I'd probably lose weight even faster.... That way I don't total Traumas truck when he runs me over later!!!!
OK y'all I did it went to the gym got a membership so I can pull the hills w Jakes big ol ass in my rig. I did elliptical n lifted
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WAIT!!!!
I gotta affirmation for ya.
I've been doing a lot of thinking about my life. The quit is a daily struggle, but something that I have come to own and resolve myself to never let off of.Â
Why have I not been doing that in other areas of my life?
I have health issues (overweight, blood pressure). Why can I not make life changes and stick to those like I have the quit? E.G. cola, junk food, fast food, late night eating, exercise.
I want all my brethren and sisteren to join me in owning your life and taking it back. Whatever it is, not just nic, that you need to 'quit', let's do this together.
Gator.
since you dont have pm read my day 75 post...we are off to sign up at a gym to nite. I have come to the realization that I can apply all the teachings from KTC to other aspects of my life. I also wanna trim down, whats the point quit nicotine and blimp up. Both can kill you, thats really what we do here is save lives. Works in other areas too like relationships I have learned and leaned from/on people here. I have tried taking what I have learned and applied it.
I'm starting my diet and workouts...Monday.
oh no Diesel we dont start Monday we start today.
Excellent work...and I am with you. Diesel...there is no Monday. Just today. We say quit for today only. Deal with tomorrow when it comes. Today is the day. Take back our lives in all aspects.
Life is filled with too many Mondays. But you know that already. I am proud to say that I have lost 60 lbs since January, because I just decided one day to buy a gym membership and take my life back! Im 31 years old and at 290 lbs I was headed to bad health even if I didn't quit chewing. Now I weigh 230 and am gunning for 200. Working out has been the best thing to get me through some bad days of this quit! I highly recommend it! My goal is to hit my HOF weighing somewhere between 200 and 210!
Sarcasm
I been doing some...
'exercise' 'tread' 'lift'
But need to cut down on the...
'Cheers' 'Have a beer' 'Popcorn' 'eat'
So I can feel when I...
'fat'
I'm working on the beer part myself. After 12 hours at a dealership it seems to be the easiest way to unwind. Kinda sad huh? Sounds vaguely similar to chew... Maybe I need to think about that more.... See this thread is making me think. Thank you Instigator!
was gonna say seems like my beer consumption has gone up since dip dropped off. I should look at that too. Dont wanna have to post roll here and at some kill the beer can site too. Also was gonna say see our teachings at KTC are being applied. I
Trauma, I've actually thought about that over the last 2 months. I do drink more. I don't think I drink a lot... But it takes away some of the tension, so I find I may have a couple extra after work. Probably not cool! I would feel like the biggest asshole alive if I quit chew and had to then face an alcohol addiction. Instigator.... I think you have made me think hard enough to want to take a break from beer. I'd probably lose weight even faster.... That way I don't total Traumas truck when he runs me over later!!!!
OK y'all I did it went to the gym got a membership so I can pull the hills w Jakes big ol ass in my rig. I did elliptical n lifted
Nice. Going down to jog on treadmill now. Let's use this thread to report on daily progress. Accountability.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
Your thread Gator I am sure we can find a place on the site for us to record or progress. Nice on gettin off the couch.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
Your thread Gator I am sure we can find a place on the site for us to record or progress. Nice on gettin off the couch.
I hate typing all this in your thread when are you going to get done being on no PM's? Anyway talked to WP he directed me to a thread that is in getting my act together and its exercise I posted there too.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
Your thread Gator I am sure we can find a place on the site for us to record or progress. Nice on gettin off the couch.
I hate typing all this in your thread when are you going to get done being on no PM's? Anyway talked to WP he directed me to a thread that is in getting my act together and its exercise I posted there too.
Gator,
Just man up and do it bro.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
Your thread Gator I am sure we can find a place on the site for us to record or progress. Nice on gettin off the couch.
I hate typing all this in your thread when are you going to get done being on no PM's? Anyway talked to WP he directed me to a thread that is in getting my act together and its exercise I posted there too.
Gator,
Just man up and do it bro.
Law don't go around here, Law dog.
Cut your stink in' pimp heart out.
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OK mugs...last night, 2.75 miles on treadmill. Feeling great. Today...no fast food or sweets to go with the exercise.
Your thread Gator I am sure we can find a place on the site for us to record or progress. Nice on gettin off the couch.
I hate typing all this in your thread when are you going to get done being on no PM's? Anyway talked to WP he directed me to a thread that is in getting my act together and its exercise I posted there too.
Gator,
Just man up and do it bro.
Law don't go around here, Law dog.
Cut your stink in' pimp heart out.
did eliptical again and worked back starting slow cause I am old
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why no updates Gator?
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Alright...so the Admins have restored upon me the ability to maintain private communications with the rest of the KTC world. For that I am grateful. Anyone wishing to pm me needing help or wanting to swap digits, fire away.
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Have I mentioned that I am glad you are back? If not it's good to see you roaming the halls again.
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Have I mentioned that I am glad you are back? If not it's good to see you roaming the halls again.
Why thank you, Lubs. Good to see you as well.
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It has been a long time since I have posted here, but I got something important.
A deputy sheriff friend of mine, whom I have posted about before, is currently, as I type, in the middle of yet another jaw surgery for cancer. This is at least number seven, maybe number eight.
I ask for thoughts and/or prayers, depending on your persuation. More importantly, I don't care how bad you cock up on other things in life, when it comes to dipping, just remember...
NEVER AGAIN!!!
One bonehead that reads this and then proceeds to cave down the road, you've been warned.
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Prayers sent up for sure.
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It has been a long time since I have posted here, but I got something important.
A deputy sheriff friend of mine, whom I have posted about before, is currently, as I type, in the middle of yet another jaw surgery for cancer. This is at least number seven, maybe number eight.
I ask for thoughts and/or prayers, depending on your persuation. More importantly, I don't care how bad you cock up on other things in life, when it comes to dipping, just remember...
NEVER AGAIN!!!
One bonehead that reads this and then proceeds to cave down the road, you've been warned.
That could easily be any one of us. Praying for your friend and his family.
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I need an affirmation.
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I need an affirmation.
Affirmation would do us well.
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I need an affirmation.
Affirmation would do us well.
Couple of months late. Don't take yourself that seriously. Take your quit very seriously.
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I need an affirmation.
Affirmation would do us well.
Couple of months late. Don't take yourself that seriously. Take your quit very seriously.
I like big butt and I cannot lie..............thats some serious shit right there
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, STIGGY! 'dance' 'party2' 'Birthday'
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
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Oh God. Oh God. 'drool'
'help'
homos.
Poor Instigator has been hijacked by zig-zag assholes.
Figured I'd bump this since gator is back. This post Makes me actually lol every time. Good entrance to the site, gator.
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Yes it is, except for the pains in my face, the constant headaches and the elevated heartrate. And the dip hangover that I will wake up with every morning that doesn't go away until noon. AND, when I quit, I tell myself that I won't miss all that crap, but then a few days go by and I feel better, so I buy another can. Especially when I do yardwork. So, overall, I know it makes me feel like crap and is bad for me, but I need you guys to kick me in the tail to break free.
you want us to quit for you too? come on, man up and quit.
If you are serious...and I hope you are, you just gotta give your word and honor that word. Do it daily and you will find success here. You will also find plenty of support.
I give my word that at 5:04 pm, I spat out my last glob of crap. Thanks guys.
Congrats on a great decision then. Come back everyday and give that same word!
I smell lip service. I caved after 100+ days. 50 cent Grizzly straight at a moment of weakness.
Instigator - you telling me that you're quit for good is bullshit. I've told a friend I was quit with 7 empty tins under my driver's seat and a fresh tin in my jacket. Quit the rhetorical bullshit. I've heard and said it all.
Post your roll. Get through the day. One crave at a time. Keep your word to yourself and this community. That's all I ask.
Shit, I can't guarantee I'll even reach 700 days. Who knows what life will throw my way. Will I post 687? Fuck yes.
Smokeyg - 686
Yeah what he said.
What Glenn said, Smokey said. Cept gee fellas what if cancerhagen comes out with a new great flavor at an irresistable price just one wouldn't hurt right?
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Every price is resistible. Mother lovin' butt chewers couldn't pay me enough to put that poison in my mouth - even if it did taste like Instigator's cock.
c'mon Smokey what if it came in a Salmon colored wrapper? With little seatless bicycles ridden by naked hagis wielding grandmothers. and it was watermelon berry willy wonka everlasting gobstopper flavor and the oompa loompas would play an exhibition soccer match against manchester united if you just had one. AND it was the old three for the low price of one special. I mean surely just one would be ok then right? right? what if the good looking female oompa loomp in the hot white canvas jump suit promised you a happy ending? Then You'd have one right?
;)
Oh God. Oh God. 'drool'
'help'
homos.
Poor Instigator has been hijacked by zig-zag assholes.
Figured I'd bump this since gator is back. This post Makes me actually lol every time. Good entrance to the site, gator.
Good lord...this takes me back. I have hated the road fighting nic but I have loved fighting it with you tossers. Wow...everybody on here should reread their own intro to figure out how this site and quitting has changed them. Thanks g.
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Name is gator. Still quit after 6 years. Stay close to the site. Any newbies need anything pm me.
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Name is gator. Still quit after 6 years. Stay close to the site. Any newbies need anything pm me.
Gator... You been gone since September 2014?
And in 6 years .....this is your first intro.
Need some support?
Come join us in Feb 2015.
Ill quit with you today.
Rawls 599
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Damn gator, that is some crazy shit... glad you are back with us.
Nomore1959 421