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Title: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 04, 2015, 02:09:00 PM
Hello. Just reading other peoples stories, some sad, and some successful is helping me. I'm kinda in that daze..... its tough and not fun. I have found physical activity helps curb cravings. It sucks. I started chewing when i was 17. dume choice. I'm 34 now. Eitherway, mentally i'm hanging in there. its just strange sometimes. kinda dazy.

I am using Smokey Mountain to help take the edge off the oral cravings. It seems to help. tastes like SH%%. I am using sunflower seeds when i'm driving.

Couple questions. specifically anybody that is sitting around the 1 week or 2 week mark.... is it getting ieasier????

I'm also concerned about gaining weight. I already proactive on that one. cutting out all junk period. I am an avid weight lifter, and am doing cardio now as well.

Also. here is another detail. a year or two ago, wife had come apart over it. I kinda quit for a while. but since then been hiding it. I am not going to tell her. But i'll tell you, it is tough to be happy go lucky when i go home at night.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Thumblewort on March 04, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
I am also a 17 year addict. Read the Welcome center and learn how to post roll, and you will get the answers you seek.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 04, 2015, 02:53:00 PM
cool. i think i figured out how to post rolll.... basically just leave a comment, with days quit, etc.

I just stumbled onto this site today, after being quit for 2 days. helps reading. any advice, or resources on site, let me know


thanks!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 04, 2015, 03:17:00 PM
sorry guys replying to myself. I am struggling now pretty bad. bad craving and haze. ive made my mind up that i'm done. but god damnit this sucks.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 04, 2015, 03:21:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
sorry guys replying to myself. I am struggling now pretty bad. bad craving and haze. ive made my mind up that i'm done. but god damnit this sucks.
and it will suck till it doesn't. It gets better, and the stronger and more determined you are the better it gets. We all went through it, we have had the dip dreams, the itching gums, the headaches and the shits. It's all part of it. But you are a slave no more. Here, read this I posted last year. I will put it in the next post.

Some people like this and it helps motivate while others find it offensive. Every once in a while I go back and read it (thanks to Knockout) and get energized.
I copied and pasted in the next post.
Mogul
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 04, 2015, 03:22:00 PM
Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.

I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.

How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?

Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.

That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.

Mogul
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 04, 2015, 03:31:00 PM
Quote from: mogul
Quote from: rubble
sorry guys replying to myself. I am struggling now pretty bad. bad craving and haze. ive made my mind up that i'm done. but god damnit this sucks.
and it will suck till it doesn't. It gets better, and the stronger and more determined you are the better it gets. We all went through it, we have had the dip dreams, the itching gums, the headaches and the shits. It's all part of it. But you are a slave no more. Here, read this I posted last year. I will put it in the next post.

Some people like this and it helps motivate while others find it offensive. Every once in a while I go back and read it (thanks to Knockout) and get energized.
I copied and pasted in the next post.
Mogul
Hey brother we all addicts here been down same road you on. IT'S A BITCH! It's rough as anything you will ever do! But if you want it bad enough stay your ass in here post roll get some damn good advice and help! On 67 day's still have bad day's usually don't last 10 minutes and gone. (Craves) you usually get out as much as you put in here! Man up post roll EDD and Odaat! I quit with you today!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 04, 2015, 03:41:00 PM
wow.

Reading that pissed me off and helped a bunch. Thank you.

Thank you.

i feel much calmer and clear. My issue is i am going at this alone. no support at work. and i'm not bringing wife and family into it. so i may bitch here and there. Is there a rant and rave section of the forum? I will post roll daily.

Well, a little more on myself.

Like i said, was 17 when i started. had my first dip at 16 actually. didnt use after that till close to 17. I was a wrestler my whole life, into my 20's. at 17 i used dip to satisfy hunger when i was cutting weight. then away it went. i didn't use it regularily until i was old enough to buy i guess, but yeah, I've got a 17 year addiction.

My triggers are driving, hunting, fishing.... well and working. i have to be doing something with my mouth, so i went the route of the fake chew.

I can tell anyone reading this thinking they will quit using nicotine replacement, that i tried that many times. all of which failed. I have always known deep down, cold turkey is the only way. which i did at 9 am on March 2nd.

The fact that something like chew controlled me really.. hell i stressed traveling with my family... (how am i going to dip??, when am i going to dip?) always stressed about hiding it from people. the one way my life is easier now is i don't have anything to hide....

sorry for rant.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: danojeno on March 04, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
wow.

Reading that pissed me off and helped a bunch. Thank you.

Thank you.

i feel much calmer and clear. My issue is i am going at this alone. no support at work. and i'm not bringing wife and family into it. so i may bitch here and there. Is there a rant and rave section of the forum? I will post roll daily.

Well, a little more on myself.

Like i said, was 17 when i started. had my first dip at 16 actually. didnt use after that till close to 17. I was a wrestler my whole life, into my 20's. at 17 i used dip to satisfy hunger when i was cutting weight. then away it went. i didn't use it regularily until i was old enough to buy i guess, but yeah, I've got a 17 year addiction.

My triggers are driving, hunting, fishing.... well and working. i have to be doing something with my mouth, so i went the route of the fake chew.

I can tell anyone reading this thinking they will quit using nicotine replacement, that i tried that many times. all of which failed. I have always known deep down, cold turkey is the only way. which i did at 9 am on March 2nd.

The fact that something like chew controlled me really.. hell i stressed traveling with my family... (how am i going to dip??, when am i going to dip?) always stressed about hiding it from people. the one way my life is easier now is i don't have anything to hide....

sorry for rant.
Rubble, you will find your story written here thousands of times. You aren't alone. Go over to June 2015 and post roll...also check your inbox.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Vinmoore83 on March 04, 2015, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: mogul
Hey bro, let's be calm and rational for 35 seconds. You are thinking that just one pinch can solve your problems. Your gums will not hurt, your tongue won't feel like a filing rod, and your mind will return to normal. That is the Nic Bitch telling you all of that. That is how "they" keep you coming back for more. That is how they line their wallets, with your addiction and ultimately your death. See, this is nothing more than the best money scam going. Just imagine if you could have a 10 million dollar mansion and have someone else pay for it. Well, "they" figured out how to do that. Provide a product that "addicted you" to it and paid off lawmakers to keep it legal. Tax the shit out of it and everybody wins. Except for the addict, you can die. There will be plenty more behind you, you're not special. So, every time you step into that store and throw a five on the counter, just remember you are agreeing to be taxed, proliferated and murdered, all with your money and your blessing. You "OK" this when you lay down your cash.

I want you to suppose for a minute that I walk up to you. Look you in the eye and tell you I'm going to kill you, slowly. I'm going to make you spend thousands of dollars in doctor and hospital bills, I'm going to orphan your kids, make your spouse go at life alone or find another mate. I'm going to take your families money and feed my family with it, also, junior wants a convertible to drive to Harvard. I need some new addicts to pay for that car and his education, you top the list. I need your money addict.

How would you feel about me? Would you do business with me? Would you buy my product? Would you want to kill me? Would you at least stand up for yourself and your family?

Well, I say Fuck Them, you're not taking my money, much less my life without getting the fight of your life. In fact I would rather die on my own accord than let you kill me. It's me or you motherfucker, and I'm not going to lose. All I have to do is Not Dip and you lose. That's it. You are not getting another penny from me you son of a bitch. Not a fucking penny. You will not make me withdraw, you will not make me crave, you will never make me kneel at your alter ever again. I'm in control, not you. I'm pissed, and I'm armed with quit. Fuck you and heed warning I'm out to do to you what you threatened to do to my children. Your on notice tobacco CEO. I'm fucking quit and I will never again let you treat me like a whore.

That might have taken more than 35 seconds, sorry. Hope you get where I'm coming from.

Mogul
Man that is so inspirational. That is real deal shit. That's what nicotine and its pushers do for you.period. anything else our addict brains tell us is a lie. Keep kicking ass rubble. Were all just like you, except the difference in days. Were all one dimbass decision away from day 1. Quit with you today.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 04, 2015, 06:09:00 PM
new topic. i'm three days in. had a couple folks tell me to get in June 2015 group. how do i do that? sorry, i'm kinda slow today
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: jpetmpls on March 04, 2015, 06:18:00 PM
Welcome! Here are 2 resources that will get you going right away.

Welcome center - forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)

June 15 quit group - topic/10990123/71/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10990123/71/#new)

Post roll and join the party!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: jpetmpls on March 04, 2015, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: jpetmpls
Welcome! Here are 2 resources that will get you going right away.

Welcome center - forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)

June 15 quit group - topic/10990123/71/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10990123/71/#new)

Post roll and join the party!
Also, I see you have 2 threads going on. Eventually you'll want to have one of the admins combine these into one. The intro is kinda like a journal detailing your story.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: danojeno on March 04, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
Nice, clean roll post!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 04, 2015, 10:32:00 PM
Kinda slow? Welcome to the funk! It gets better my friend. Post roll EDD! ODAAT! Proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Rawls on March 05, 2015, 12:24:00 AM
What's your story rubble?
How long did you date the NB.
Married.. Kids?
Ninja or wide open?

Great job posting.. Welcome to the nut house.. Enjoy the coolaid. It works.
Quit with you today.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 05, 2015, 05:02:00 AM
Quote from: Rawls
What's your story rubble?
How long did you date the NB.
Married.. Kids?
Ninja or wide open?

Great job posting.. Welcome to the nut house.. Enjoy the coolaid. It works.
Quit with you today.
Rubble has a separate intro. They need to be merged.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Nolaq on March 05, 2015, 10:02:00 AM
Welcome, rubble.

We ask folks to keep to one Intro here, so you can use this as your own personal journal, or whatever you like.

Again, welcome to the best decision you ever made!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 05, 2015, 11:44:00 AM
Sorry guys. Hopefully my forum etiquate improves. Looks like the threads were merged.

Anyhow, I am on day 4. So i guess i have conquered 3 days.

Yep, i am married, have 2 kids.

Termanology question..... Ninja = completely hiding the dip addiction? If so, then i was a ninja/Ninja spectre/100th degree blackbelt/Ninja turtle. Which now that i feel better today see how fucking stupid that is. if i had applied the energy and thought i did to hiding dip, to something constructive...... wow.


I though i was going to have to break down and tell my family. figured i'd be irratable beyond control. but i've hung in there for 3 days. The positive side is i actually feel really good today.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 05, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Sorry guys. Hopefully my forum etiquate improves. Looks like the threads were merged.

Anyhow, I am on day 4. So i guess i have conquered 3 days.

Yep, i am married, have 2 kids.

Termanology question..... Ninja = completely hiding the dip addiction? If so, then i was a ninja/Ninja spectre/100th degree blackbelt/Ninja turtle. Which now that i feel better today see how fucking stupid that is. if i had applied the energy and thought i did to hiding dip, to something constructive...... wow.


I though i was going to have to break down and tell my family. figured i'd be irratable beyond control. but i've hung in there for 3 days. The positive side is i actually feel really good today.
Share it with wife very important she knows why you are acting like such a goober and trust me, you will! Remember come on here bitch, grip and complain not at the wife and kids! We will probably laugh and tell you to rage your foggy ass on but I guarantee it will make you feel better! Damn proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Raider on March 05, 2015, 04:17:00 PM
Something I wrote in my Intro. Thought it might help with your journey. I know it sucks now and it will get better, much better. I too hid my addiction for many years.

Keep on quitting


Today I sit here looking in my rear view mirror and I can see the person I WAS. A liar, cheater, and thief. I lied to my family about my addiction. I cheated on my family because the words "All my love" were shared. Not with another woman but shared with a substance. Finally as a thief because I robbed my family of precious time I could have spent with them.

Today I am proud to say that I am no longer the person I was but I have become the man I am. I am reminded of the past and for that I am grateful however, as I look forward I see a journey that has better days ahead.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 05, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: Raider
Something I wrote in my Intro. Thought it might help with your journey. I know it sucks now and it will get better, much better. I too hid my addiction for many years.

Keep on quitting


Today I sit here looking in my rear view mirror and I can see the person I WAS. A liar, cheater, and thief. I lied to my family about my addiction. I cheated on my family because the words "All my love" were shared. Not with another woman but shared with a substance. Finally as a thief because I robbed my family of precious time I could have spent with them.

Today I am proud to say that I am no longer the person I was but I have become the man I am. I am reminded of the past and for that I am grateful however, as I look forward I see a journey that has better days ahead.
Thanks raider that was awesome! Because of you my quit is stronger today!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Rawls on March 05, 2015, 07:30:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: Raider
Something I wrote in my Intro. Thought it might help with your journey. I know it sucks now and it will get better, much better. I too hid my addiction for many years.

Keep on quitting


Today I sit here looking in my rear view mirror and I can see the person I WAS. A liar, cheater, and thief. I lied to my family about my addiction. I cheated on my family because the words "All my love" were shared. Not with another woman but shared with a substance. Finally as a thief because I robbed my family of precious time I could have spent with them.

Today I am proud to say that I am no longer the person I was but I have become the man I am. I am reminded of the past and for that I am grateful however, as I look forward I see a journey that has better days ahead.
Thanks raider that was awesome! Because of you my quit is stronger today!
Really good from a Big Ol Walking Bear. Raider you Rock!

Bet your guessing my answer.. Truth is always better.
Guessing, just cause I'm an addict also, you may be hiding the truth because your scared you might not keep your promise.

That is a Lie Lie LIE

You can if you get involved here. And spend the same time quitting as you did using.

I didn't promise my wife anything!.... I MAKE my self and the brothers here at KTC a promise every day.
My wife could buy me a can and think its sexy..... I would flush it. It is poison and poison kills.

I hate lies, I hate Poison.
I quit with you today, burn the Boat and never look back ODAAT.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 06, 2015, 07:26:00 AM
There is some good quit going on in here.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 04:25:00 PM
Hey guys, sorry i'm late getting back. this site rocks. I'm on Day 5. tough.... But i am in control and am doing this. Let me tell you my logic of keeping my wife out of it. (I've maintained, and made it a big point to be aware and nice. haven't had a blow up at all yet on fam.)

during my addiction, wife busted me a couple of times. Everytime it happened, i became a wild animal... desperate for hunting down excuses. then I had her on my ass belittling me and such for such a nasty habit. She was right, it is a nasty habit. But i swear her way of helping, put me on defensive and i felt like it wasn't my decision. Then resorted to chewing because the quit wasn't for me.
My feable quit attempts lasted a day or so, and i went back to hiding it.
Now, i am very good at hiding it. I could continue hiding it for the next 25 years.

The difference with this quit is it was all me making a decision for myself ;Ironman: , not somebody telling me to. Right now my marriage has been awsome, even during this past few days of quit. I wonder if possibly unloading the baggage of hiding a habit helps offset the irritability coming with quit. either way, homelife been great.

I've reached out and been in contact with several members. i tell you, sharing experience, venting, with people that actually know the reality of this battle, helps a ton.

I don't know, chime in. am i backwards?? I just feel like its between me and the can, and you all are in my corner. My wife's personality, don't feel like it would help, probably make things worse.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 04:29:00 PM
also, thanks a bunch for that Raider. That was awsome. i too instantly felt stronger
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: flrednek28 on March 06, 2015, 05:01:00 PM
Rubble, welcome and congrats on your quit, my wife knew I dipped, I concealed my quit for weeks, thinking if I failed and she didn't know about I wouldn't have really been a failure in her eyes.
Two weeks in I thought I was doing a good job hiding it, my wife noticed me acting a little off, she was pissed I did not confide in her, and of course in the midst of quitting I got pissed back, took a couple days but finally got to clear the air and now I have her full support and she is "rewarding" me every 30 days quit, first one was great, looking forward to 60 days quit.

Quit with you today rubble!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Rawls on March 06, 2015, 06:00:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Hey guys, sorry i'm late getting back. this site rocks. I'm on Day 5. tough.... But i am in control and am doing this. Let me tell you my logic of keeping my wife out of it. (I've maintained, and made it a big point to be aware and nice. haven't had a blow up at all yet on fam.)

during my addiction, wife busted me a couple of times. Everytime it happened, i became a wild animal... desperate for hunting down excuses. then I had her on my ass belittling me and such for such a nasty habit. She was right, it is a nasty habit. But i swear her way of helping, put me on defensive and i felt like it wasn't my decision. Then resorted to chewing because the quit wasn't for me.
My feable quit attempts lasted a day or so, and i went back to hiding it.
Now, i am very good at hiding it. I could continue hiding it for the next 25 years.

The difference with this quit is it was all me making a decision for myself ;Ironman: , not somebody telling me to. Right now my marriage has been awsome, even during this past few days of quit. I wonder if possibly unloading the baggage of hiding a habit helps offset the irritability coming with quit. either way, homelife been great.

I've reached out and been in contact with several members. i tell you, sharing experience, venting, with people that actually know the reality of this battle, helps a ton.

I don't know, chime in. am i backwards?? I just feel like its between me and the can, and you all are in my corner. My wife's personality, don't feel like it would help, probably make things worse.
Man this is deep...
Could backfire like with flrednek28.
But she might think relationship is stronger now your not hiding anything.
Sounds like as Strong as the marriage is.. You can't loose anyway.

Im gonna stay with the Truth.
I'm more concerned about quiting and being clean and having nothing to hide behind, rather than her being mad.
Do you think your failures in the past were because you were looking for a little respect or pat on the back?
Then when you don't get it... Back on the resentment train?
This is so hard two see sometimes in the Fog... But this quit is yours... And the more people you share it with the stronger it becomes. You have too shout it out and have more accountability than you have secrets and or places to hide behind!

The formula works... Same in here. At first... I wasn't giving a stranger my phone number... Don't need strangers bugging me!
Then I realized I'm an addict. And there's never been an addict quit alone.
Brother I need a army of people holding my feet to the fire.
Every person you add to your accountability list, the stronger your chance of defeating the enemy. Fact.
This isn't just a decision. This is war and will be a new way of life.

I would bring home Two books on addiction.. And tell her you are tired of struggling with the desires to have tobacco. Then teach and share with her what your learning.. Nicotine 101 also good read. She would have to respect that.

Either way you go at home and what ever happens don't let that effect what you have started here. Ask for some digits... I just sent you mine. And get involved with June. You need us... And we need you.
Thanks for sharing and being so transparent.
Sorry for rambling just my 2 cents and you can't buy a dang thing with it.
I quit with you today.
Rawls.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 06, 2015, 06:07:00 PM
Rubble, I suck at relationships and dealing with women so I'm just going to quit with ya and let you work out the other business. Just stay quit.

Mogul
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 06:26:00 PM
is it common for guy to hide it? am i fucked up? i don't know. It just feels real this time. in my mind, caving is not an option. I don't know. I'll see what happens. it its meant to come out to wife, i guess it will. may be good, may be bad. i know i am committed.

i swear too, temptation to cave will happen. here i am on day 5. I am a cheap guy by nature, never had cans i forgot about, or hoarded. Well i'm sitting here at work. opened my drawer, and bam, there was a tin of camel snus i forgot about. I swear as i sit here, i dumped them in the shitter, and flushed.

so believe me, i am committed.

thanks guys, i'm proud to be a quitter among all of you
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 06, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
is it common for guy to hide it? am i fucked up? i don't know. It just feels real this time. in my mind, caving is not an option. I don't know. I'll see what happens. it its meant to come out to wife, i guess it will. may be good, may be bad. i know i am committed.

i swear too, temptation to cave will happen. here i am on day 5. I am a cheap guy by nature, never had cans i forgot about, or hoarded. Well i'm sitting here at work. opened my drawer, and bam, there was a tin of camel snus i forgot about. I swear as i sit here, i dumped them in the shitter, and flushed.

so believe me, i am committed.

thanks guys, i'm proud to be a quitter among all of you
That's how you win brother. keep kicking ass like that and you soon will find yourself wondering why the hell you even did it in the first place. I'm relishing in the fact that you just beat the bitch at her game.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: WS101214 on March 06, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Yeah it's way common to see ninjas around here. Your story is just like mine and a million others around here. I hid it from everyone, and my wife's mom manages the dental practice we all went to...you talk about stress, I was a total wreck before every appointment.

You've got the right attitude. Just do whatever you have to in order to get through, the days will roll up and pretty soon you think less and less about it.

I went into my quit knowing it was the time but terrified that I was a life time slave. 65 days later I am as militant anti-tobacco as you will find. I'd rather set my money on fire than give one cent to those heartless bastards.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
a bunch of bad asses around here. I definelty have to stay the course and not let you all down.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
One more thing about me.

Name is Russell.

My screen name "rubble"....

A friend from highschoo used to call
Me rubble. Happens that same mother
Fucker was one that set me up with first
Dip. Skoal wintergreen.
My fault for trying.
Point is... This kid, great athlete..
Didn't stop at dip, went to cigs, both, weed, meth,
And as far as I know now, homeless or dead.
Just a reminder I guess
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 06, 2015, 09:11:00 PM
I'm by no means like that guy. I Graduated in engineering, wrestled in college.
But still a fork in the road for my
Worst decision I ever made. Started Chewing
Ugh
Sorry. Never shared this shit with anybody. I ramble too much
Keep kickin ass
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Rawls on March 06, 2015, 10:27:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
I'm by no means like that guy. I Graduated in engineering, wrestled in college.
But still a fork in the road for my
Worst decision I ever made. Started Chewing
Ugh
Sorry. Never shared this shit with anybody. I ramble too much
Keep kickin ass
Your not rambling.... Your quitting.
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 07, 2015, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: Rawls
Quote from: rubble
I'm by no means like that guy. I Graduated in engineering, wrestled in college.
But still a fork in the road for my
Worst decision I ever made. Started Chewing
Ugh
Sorry. Never shared this shit with anybody. I ramble too much
Keep kickin ass
Your not rambling.... Your quitting.
Keep it up!
Rant and rage on that's what we do here. Just a thought let your wife in on what's going on. You may not realize it but you will go through changes and all of them are not what you're use to. Just saying we're here for you, we understand because we're all addicts but your wife needs to know when shits hitting fan! Damn proud to be quit with you! Pm me if you want my number
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 07, 2015, 05:15:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
a bunch of bad asses around here. I definelty have to stay the course and not let you all down.
And you are one of them, post roll, keep your word and honor every damn day, ODAAT, and that my friend is BADASS.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 07, 2015, 06:01:00 PM
Thanks guys.

Observation: mornings for me have
No cravings.
First craving and bad attitude symptoms hit
At 1:00 pm.
Either way, keeping the bitch
Beat down.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 07, 2015, 09:38:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Thanks guys.

Observation: mornings for me have
No cravings.
First craving and bad attitude symptoms hit
At 1:00 pm.
Either way, keeping the bitch
Beat down.
One day at a time bud.

This site is really great. Because,like you, I thought I was alone. Chewed a can a day for 25 years. Suit and tie guy. No one would ever guess I chewed like this. No one. Well...except hundreds or thousands of peeps on Ktc.

For what it is worth, I'm glad the beginning sucks. Because it is a great motivator to keep you quit. You'll never have to relive this shit again. Keep typing on this thread. It is great to vome back and look at your progress.

I'm a finance dude. There are doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, airline pilots, bankers, you name it... Fighting this battle alongside you. You are in the right place.

If I can ever help shoot me a pm. 800 days ago I was in your shoes. It can be done, you are really gonna like the new you.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 07, 2015, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
Thanks guys.

Observation: mornings for me have
No cravings.
First craving and bad attitude symptoms hit
At 1:00 pm.
Either way, keeping the bitch
Beat down.
One day at a time bud.

This site is really great. Because,like you, I thought I was alone. Chewed a can a day for 25 years. Suit and tie guy. No one would ever guess I chewed like this. No one. Well...except hundreds or thousands of peeps on Ktc.

For what it is worth, I'm glad the beginning sucks. Because it is a great motivator to keep you quit. You'll never have to relive this shit again. Keep typing on this thread. It is great to vome back and look at your progress.

I'm a finance dude. There are doctors, lawyers, pharmacists, airline pilots, bankers, you name it... Fighting this battle alongside you. You are in the right place.

If I can ever help shoot me a pm. 800 days ago I was in your shoes. It can be done, you are really gonna like the new you.
Congratulations work on 800 days! Rubble listen to these badass quitters! It works my friend. If you want to do this and it damn well appears you do you will! Keep focused, busy and not to cocky this bitch is sitting back waiting patiently for one little slip up and bam you will be fingering the tin again! Do proud to be quit with you my brother!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 07, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
Thank you guys.
True ninja dipper

I'll tell ya, this is my longest time off
The dip. I feel accountable to you
Folks. I will beat it and never return.

I look forward to the day I am the guys
You all are, helping people. If I can
Help somebody stay off this shit it
Would mean the world.

I swear anxiety kicked in. Examined my
Teeth and gums 100 times already.
No sores or anything, but by god my
Stressed ass is watching for them.

I've always been mentally tough. Wrestled my whole life, etc.
But this is testing my mental. I know dipping isn't
An option. And I won't do it.
But the severe withdrawals have moved
To severe guilt I didn't quit sooner and for
StRting in the first place. I'm doing my damnist to focus on
Now and not past or even future. One day at a time.
Thank god for you all. I'm moving along.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 07, 2015, 10:20:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Thank you guys.
True ninja dipper

I'll tell ya, this is my longest time off
The dip. I feel accountable to you
Folks. I will beat it and never return.

I look forward to the day I am the guys
You all are, helping people. If I can
Help somebody stay off this shit it
Would mean the world.

I swear anxiety kicked in. Examined my
Teeth and gums 100 times already.
No sores or anything, but by god my
Stressed ass is watching for them.

I've always been mentally tough. Wrestled my whole life, etc.
But this is testing my mental. I know dipping isn't
An option. And I won't do it.
But the severe withdrawals have moved
To severe guilt I didn't quit sooner and for
StRting in the first place. I'm doing my damnist to focus on
Now and not past or even future. One day at a time.
Thank god for you all. I'm moving along.
We cannot change the past
We cannot control tomorrow
But we can goddamn well own today.

This is the best thing you will ever do for yourself. The anxiety will pass. The worry will pass too. In time, if the guilt persists, you might want to talk with your wife. I did on day 300 to let her know the real extint of my addiction. She was shocked. We cried. I felt like a ton of bricks lifted. Don't feel pressured to do it now, but it might help you later.

Typing in your intro helps you and others more than you know. These intros are where lives are saved. Sharing your story helps others see that they aren't slone. Just like you aren't.

I quit with you today sir.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: danojeno on March 07, 2015, 10:46:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
Thank you guys.
True ninja dipper

I'll tell ya, this is my longest time off
The dip. I feel accountable to you
Folks. I will beat it and never return.

I look forward to the day I am the guys
You all are, helping people. If I can
Help somebody stay off this shit it
Would mean the world.

I swear anxiety kicked in. Examined my
Teeth and gums 100 times already.
No sores or anything, but by god my
Stressed ass is watching for them.

I've always been mentally tough. Wrestled my whole life, etc.
But this is testing my mental. I know dipping isn't
An option. And I won't do it.
But the severe withdrawals have moved
To severe guilt I didn't quit sooner and for
StRting in the first place. I'm doing my damnist to focus on
Now and not past or even future. One day at a time.
Thank god for you all. I'm moving along.
We cannot change the past
We cannot control tomorrow
But we can goddamn well own today.

This is the best thing you will ever do for yourself. The anxiety will pass. The worry will pass too. In time, if the guilt persists, you might want to talk with your wife. I did on day 300 to let her know the real extint of my addiction. She was shocked. We cried. I felt like a ton of bricks lifted. Don't feel pressured to do it now, but it might help you later.

Typing in your intro helps you and others more than you know. These intros are where lives are saved. Sharing your story helps others see that they aren't slone. Just like you aren't.

I quit with you today sir.
Rubble, my June brother, you already are the guy helping. You are keeping me and all our brothers accountable. Glad to be quit with you again today.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 08, 2015, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: danojeno
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
Thank you guys.
True ninja dipper

I'll tell ya, this is my longest time off
The dip. I feel accountable to you
Folks. I will beat it and never return.

I look forward to the day I am the guys
You all are, helping people. If I can
Help somebody stay off this shit it
Would mean the world.

I swear anxiety kicked in. Examined my
Teeth and gums 100 times already.
No sores or anything, but by god my
Stressed ass is watching for them.

I've always been mentally tough. Wrestled my whole life, etc.
But this is testing my mental. I know dipping isn't
An option. And I won't do it.
But the severe withdrawals have moved
To severe guilt I didn't quit sooner and for
StRting in the first place. I'm doing my damnist to focus on
Now and not past or even future. One day at a time.
Thank god for you all. I'm moving along.
We cannot change the past
We cannot control tomorrow
But we can goddamn well own today.

This is the best thing you will ever do for yourself. The anxiety will pass. The worry will pass too. In time, if the guilt persists, you might want to talk with your wife. I did on day 300 to let her know the real extint of my addiction. She was shocked. We cried. I felt like a ton of bricks lifted. Don't feel pressured to do it now, but it might help you later.

Typing in your intro helps you and others more than you know. These intros are where lives are saved. Sharing your story helps others see that they aren't slone. Just like you aren't.

I quit with you today sir.
Rubble, my June brother, you already are the guy helping. You are keeping me and all our brothers accountable. Glad to be quit with you again today.
You're quit strengthens mine stay quit, stay focused, 1 day at a time! It gets so much better!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Vguy on March 08, 2015, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: danojeno
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
Thank you guys.
True ninja dipper

I'll tell ya, this is my longest time off
The dip. I feel accountable to you
Folks. I will beat it and never return.

I look forward to the day I am the guys
You all are, helping people. If I can
Help somebody stay off this shit it
Would mean the world.

I swear anxiety kicked in. Examined my
Teeth and gums 100 times already.
No sores or anything, but by god my
Stressed ass is watching for them.

I've always been mentally tough. Wrestled my whole life, etc.
But this is testing my mental. I know dipping isn't
An option. And I won't do it.
But the severe withdrawals have moved
To severe guilt I didn't quit sooner and for
StRting in the first place. I'm doing my damnist to focus on
Now and not past or even future. One day at a time.
Thank god for you all. I'm moving along.
We cannot change the past
We cannot control tomorrow
But we can goddamn well own today.

This is the best thing you will ever do for yourself. The anxiety will pass. The worry will pass too. In time, if the guilt persists, you might want to talk with your wife. I did on day 300 to let her know the real extint of my addiction. She was shocked. We cried. I felt like a ton of bricks lifted. Don't feel pressured to do it now, but it might help you later.

Typing in your intro helps you and others more than you know. These intros are where lives are saved. Sharing your story helps others see that they aren't slone. Just like you aren't.

I quit with you today sir.
Rubble, my June brother, you already are the guy helping. You are keeping me and all our brothers accountable. Glad to be quit with you again today.
You're quit strengthens mine stay quit, stay focused, 1 day at a time! It gets so much better!
You stay on it, Rubble. You've got this. You're already helping us by sharing your story. We see ourselves in you, and we hope you see some of yourself in us. Read, read, read here. Your "rambling" is what we do here as we work our way out of the nic maze.

Tell your wife. Make yourself more accountable. Let her in and ask for her help. Share this site with her to help her understand. Instead of making you weak, I think you'll be surprise at how it will strengthen your quit and your relationship.

Keep it up every damn day.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 09, 2015, 10:09:00 AM
I'm watching introductions for a day 1 guy....

There are a couple 3 or so days in.

I'm on Day 8. Heres what i can tell you.....

I have turned one corner. i hit a point that i have one huge motivator.... that is i never want to go through day 2,3,4,5 again for the rest of my life. That means progress. That means i feel pretty damn good.
Not by any means at the end of my journey. But, i can attest that every day is huge progress. once i got past the 5th day or so, the physical piece of it was replaced by mental. Which is simple (i said simple, not easy) to beat. Just don't dip. It isn't an option.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: lighty7 on March 09, 2015, 10:59:00 AM
I really like what I am reading in here regarding your quit rubble.

You know your own situation with your relationship with your wife, but my 2 cents is to tell her. It will sting at first but it will be worth it in the long run. Nicotine rage is real and will come when you least expect it. I was not a ninja dipper, but I did have issues with nicotine rage with my wife. The idea is to rage here, but sometimes that doesn't work. I read somewhere that when we "used" to have an issue with our wife, a lot of times we would walk away and go dip. Now we stay and go toe to toe over the issue. So issues that never came up in the past - now they do.

The other reason is that if you do this right you will join a text group with some of your June 15 brothers. 8 dudes on a text group means you will be getting random texts at different times of the day and sometimes your phone will blow up. It sounds weird, but it will absolutely solidify your quit. Try explaining that to your wife!

This has nothing to do with quitting but here is a good Yogi Berra -ism (which always put a smile on my face)

"When you come to a fork in the road, take it"

Yogi Berra
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 09, 2015, 12:09:00 PM
Thanks guys for the advise. I'll try and explain.

I love my wife, we get along great. What is weird, is our relationship has been close to the best this past week..... (my explanation is i am consience of what nicotene will try, it tries to bring out the asshole. I am trying to be proactive....i don't know)

Heres the thing. she busted the ninja years ago. I made an open attempt with her to quit (today realize it was a stop). i probably made it 5 days or so.

Here was the issue, wife is a kind hearted person, but has no patience with people putting poison in their body. which is correct.. She basically belittled me for starting, doing it, etc. caused fights (I know my irratibility didn't help). It just wasn't good, i felt low self confidence, etc.. I'm not blaming her for the failed attempts, i blame myself. But, it just wasn't what i needed at that time. I don't hold any hard feelings toward her for that, she is right. I just know, that i may be emotionally vurnable now, and don't need negativity. I feel in control, and have a positive attitude with this quit. I also think i am proactive fighting the nic rage, because it would blow my cover if i don't.

This weekend, we spent the whole weekend together as a family. No secret black Ops ninja dip missions. Unloading that baggage, i swear offsets some of the mental trials with quitting.

I realize nic rage is real, ive experienced it. But i am very determined to not let this quit effect my life in any other way. I know that nic rage will try to come, It has tried, but I am ready for it, and fight it down.

I realize 8 days, i have a ways to go. I realize there will be different trials come up. But i have confidence i can beat them. I realize this point in the quit, can be dangerous for some, you feel better, think you got er licked. Maybe let guard down some. But i will not.

Physically, I feel the best I felt since I started the quit journey. I'm loving it. I swear to god, no cravings yesterday until about 2:00 pm. and when they came, they didn't last long. I'm ready for them.
Don't get me wrong, it is still very tough. But it is very doable. After only 8 days, i'm excited to see 16, 50, 100, 300 days.

Sorry, i am not disagreeing with anyone on letting wife it. I'm just stating what my simple mind says
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 09, 2015, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Thanks guys for the advise. I'll try and explain.

I love my wife, we get along great. What is weird, is our relationship has been close to the best this past week..... (my explanation is i am consience of what nicotene will try, it tries to bring out the asshole. I am trying to be proactive....i don't know)

Heres the thing. she busted the ninja years ago. I made an open attempt with her to quit (today realize it was a stop). i probably made it 5 days or so.

Here was the issue, wife is a kind hearted person, but has no patience with people putting poison in their body. which is correct.. She basically belittled me for starting, doing it, etc. caused fights (I know my irratibility didn't help). It just wasn't good, i felt low self confidence, etc.. I'm not blaming her for the failed attempts, i blame myself. But, it just wasn't what i needed at that time. I don't hold any hard feelings toward her for that, she is right. I just know, that i may be emotionally vurnable now, and don't need negativity. I feel in control, and have a positive attitude with this quit. I also think i am proactive fighting the nic rage, because it would blow my cover if i don't.

This weekend, we spent the whole weekend together as a family. No secret black Ops ninja dip missions. Unloading that baggage, i swear offsets some of the mental trials with quitting.

I realize nic rage is real, ive experienced it. But i am very determined to not let this quit effect my life in any other way. I know that nic rage will try to come, It has tried, but I am ready for it, and fight it down.

I realize 8 days, i have a ways to go. I realize there will be different trials come up. But i have confidence i can beat them. I realize this point in the quit, can be dangerous for some, you feel better, think you got er licked. Maybe let guard down some. But i will not.

Physically, I feel the best I felt since I started the quit journey. I'm loving it. I swear to god, no cravings yesterday until about 2:00 pm. and when they came, they didn't last long. I'm ready for them.
Don't get me wrong, it is still very tough. But it is very doable. After only 8 days, i'm excited to see 16, 50, 100, 300 days.

Sorry, i am not disagreeing with anyone on letting wife it. I'm just stating what my simple mind says
Stay quit, stay focused and most of all remember I've never read where anyone died from withdrawals although sometimes we think we are! Hang in there my friend it sucks till it don't is the best I can say because it's different for everyone. Doing great, time will come when you'll know it's right tell wife, till then concentrate on you! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 09, 2015, 12:35:00 PM
Thank you. Thats how i feel. there will be a time when I will share with my wife this battle. It just isn't now. I've got a recipe for sucess, and I won't fail. Proud to be quit with all of you.

The Rubble 1 step program to quit Dip:
Step 1: don't dip

hahaha.

I will tell ya, i haven't been getting the greatest sleep...... But i'm hoping that will improve.

Thanks again everybody.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 09, 2015, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Thank you. Thats how i feel. there will be a time when I will share with my wife this battle. It just isn't now. I've got a recipe for sucess, and I won't fail. Proud to be quit with all of you.

The Rubble 1 step program to quit Dip:
Step 1: don't dip

hahaha.

I will tell ya, i haven't been getting the greatest sleep...... But i'm hoping that will improve.

Thanks again everybody.
I like your 1-step approach.

Sleep will get better.

Tell your wife. Don't tell your wife. Do what is best for you man - you have a winning approach right now.

If I can help don't hesitate to let me know. No one ever regrets quitting. No one.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 09, 2015, 02:48:00 PM
Thanks man. Just listening to me ramble helps.
Kinda like unloading.
I wouldn't be 8 days without
This site.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 09, 2015, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Thanks man. Just listening to me ramble helps.
Kinda like unloading.
I wouldn't be 8 days without
This site.
806 days here. I haven't missed posting a day since I joined.

806 days ago I was diabetic. Severely. I had high blood pressure. And I'm talking high. My cholesterol was whack high. And I chewed a can a day.

Today I take no meds. None. And my test results are on the low side of normal. Do I eat better? Yes. Do I exercise more? Yes. Nicotine was the root of all if my problems. Fuck nicotine!

I have not missed a day of posting and I will not. 806 days ago I would have laughed if you told me id be posting this today. Rubble, I would have said that this sort of transformation isn't possible.

The impossible is possible through brotherhood and accountability.

I quit with you today brother.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 09, 2015, 09:07:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
Thanks man. Just listening to me ramble helps.
Kinda like unloading.
I wouldn't be 8 days without
This site.
806 days here. I haven't missed posting a day since I joined.

806 days ago I was diabetic. Severely. I had high blood pressure. And I'm talking high. My cholesterol was whack high. And I chewed a can a day.

Today I take no meds. None. And my test results are on the low side of normal. Do I eat better? Yes. Do I exercise more? Yes. Nicotine was the root of all if my problems. Fuck nicotine!

I have not missed a day of posting and I will not. 806 days ago I would have laughed if you told me id be posting this today. Rubble, I would have said that this sort of transformation isn't possible.

The impossible is possible through brotherhood and accountability.

I quit with you today brother.
I always thought so work! Nicotine had alot to do with almost all health problems! Thanks brother for that can't wait for next Dr visit. Rubble listen this brother^^stay quit get your health back, not only save your life possibly! Stay quit! Proud to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 10, 2015, 05:36:00 PM
Another milestone. Hell yeah!

I'm in day 9

Hit the dentist today. Teeth cleaning, checkup. I asked him to
Cancer screen me. All good. Clean bill of
Health.

Other than I had a cavity!!!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: gb321 on March 10, 2015, 06:30:00 PM
You're on the right path. Stay quit and keep posting roll every day. You've found the right place, pm me for my number or anything. June '15 baby
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 10, 2015, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Another milestone. Hell yeah!

I'm in day 9

Hit the dentist today. Teeth cleaning, checkup. I asked him to
Cancer screen me. All good. Clean bill of
Health.

Other than I had a cavity!!!
Now let's concentrate more on that quit son! We all here for you reach out whenever! Congrats on your dentist visit! Let's get this badass quit in high gear! Proud to be quit with you today my friend!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Mogul on March 11, 2015, 09:50:00 AM
10 days is huge bro. Double digit winner here. Don't let that bitch start tricking you now. I remember back when, I was celebrating a test I aced and she started romancing me. She said, "look you can quit me anytime, let's go get a can and celebrate your success on this test." I just smiled and kept on quitting. That was a major turning point for me and I knew I would be adding a big plus one for that day.

She knows how to get you, be aware
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 11, 2015, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: mogul
10 days is huge bro. Double digit winner here. Don't let that bitch start tricking you now. I remember back when, I was celebrating a test I aced and she started romancing me. She said, "look you can quit me anytime, let's go get a can and celebrate your success on this test." I just smiled and kept on quitting. That was a major turning point for me and I knew I would be adding a big plus one for that day.

She knows how to get you, be aware
Couldn't agree more. She tried last night.
Rough night but I beat her down.
She's backed off this morn But I am
More then ready if she comes back

Thanks bro. I'm quit with ya all!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 11, 2015, 03:26:00 PM
Question for veterans

So last night I had what I think was
A major withdrawal. Headache and
Weird feeling, big time fog.
But, I did not crave putting a dip in.

Don't know if that makes sense...

Also I can say last night after that episode,
I got the best sleep I've had in past 10
Days. Plus I feel great today.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: gb321 on March 11, 2015, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Question for veterans

So last night I had what I think was
A major withdrawal. Headache and
Weird feeling, big time fog.
But, I did not crave putting a dip in.

Don't know if that makes sense...

Also I can say last night after that episode,
I got the best sleep I've had in past 10
Days. Plus I feel great today.
Yeah I'm going through that right now. Not exactly sure why but it's still happening. Pm me soon
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 12, 2015, 05:13:00 AM
Quote from: gb321
Quote from: rubble
Question for veterans

So last night I had what I think was
A major withdrawal. Headache and
Weird feeling, big time fog.
But, I did not crave putting a dip in.

Don't know if that makes sense...

Also I can say last night after that episode,
I got the best sleep I've had in past 10
Days. Plus I feel great today.
Yeah I'm going through that right now. Not exactly sure why but it's still happening. Pm me soon
Rubble, what you describe sounds as normal as it gets. You are healing.

This sounds whack, but nicotine suppresses oxygen levels in your blood. Your blood is now carrying more oxygen up to rubbles brain that it has in a long time, and your brain is confused about getting what it really wants and deserves. That is a long explanation for "the fog". It sucks. It is you healing. One day at a time.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 12, 2015, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: gb321
Quote from: rubble
Question for veterans

So last night I had what I think was
A major withdrawal. Headache and
Weird feeling, big time fog.
But, I did not crave putting a dip in.

Don't know if that makes sense...

Also I can say last night after that episode,
I got the best sleep I've had in past 10
Days. Plus I feel great today.
Yeah I'm going through that right now. Not exactly sure why but it's still happening. Pm me soon
Rubble, what you describe sounds as normal as it gets. You are healing.

This sounds whack, but nicotine suppresses oxygen levels in your blood. Your blood is now carrying more oxygen up to rubbles brain that it has in a long time, and your brain is confused about getting what it really wants and deserves. That is a long explanation for "the fog". It sucks. It is you healing. One day at a time.
thanks man

I feel pretty good considering. yeah there are moments, but with the quitter attitude, you can beat them down.

I can say i already see a difference in my energy levels after only 11 days. I put out harder in the gym.

everything is healing. kinda interesting. back in 2012, my dentist had photos of mouth. the ole dippers pocket was pretty bad.

Well now, almost three years later, and it was 10 days of quit when i saw dentist, the dippers pocket has diminished so much that you can't even really see it.

amazing what the body can do, if you just give it a chance to live
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 12, 2015, 10:38:00 AM
one more question for veterans.

I hate to admit it, but i am using smokey mountain fake stuff as a crutch in those moments I know would be triggers. Its working.

Do ya all recommend a time frame to ween off the fake?
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 12, 2015, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
one more question for veterans.

I hate to admit it, but i am using smokey mountain fake stuff as a crutch in those moments I know would be triggers. Its working.

Do ya all recommend a time frame to ween off the fake?
When you get tired of paying for it.

Most of us keep s can of fake around just in case. Most of us don't use it once we get tired of paying for it.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 12, 2015, 12:07:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
one more question for veterans.

I hate to admit it, but i am using smokey mountain fake stuff as a crutch in those moments I know would be triggers. Its working.

Do ya all recommend a time frame to ween off the fake?
When you get tired of paying for it.

Most of us keep s can of fake around just in case. Most of us don't use it once we get tired of paying for it.
roger that.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 12, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
one more question for veterans.

I hate to admit it, but i am using smokey mountain fake stuff as a crutch in those moments I know would be triggers. Its working.

Do ya all recommend a time frame to ween off the fake?
When you get tired of paying for it.

Most of us keep s can of fake around just in case. Most of us don't use it once we get tired of paying for it.
roger that.
Fake stuff is normally used for the oral fixation just like work said I keep a can around just in case craves get to bad. To me I don't get concentrating on the craves near as much usually keep in 10 minutes urge gone spit it out. Seeds, toothpick, or gum just whatever it takes to kick this olé bitches ass! Stay quit! Proud to be quit with you today my brother!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 13, 2015, 01:21:00 PM
just want to add a journal entry.

Creeping in on two weeks of quit

As of now, I feel pretty damn good. I've learned when the triggers happen and i prepare for them in advance (with Smokey mountain). Morning coffee and after lunch. aside from that, i chew quite a bit of orbit gum.
If i'm busy most of the day, symptoms go un noticed. staying busy for the first while is key
Yes i have urges to chew that come out of nowhere. But i stay proactive and not let my mind wander to justify one more dip. it isn't an option. I realize this will be a skill i need to keep sharp the rest of my life.
My sleep has improved drastically. didn't get much sleep first 8-10 days. Now i sleep normal again
Dippers pouch has diminished.
I am finally productive at work again. I'll admit, i was uselss for the first 8-9 days.
Alot of folks said constipation, etc. I shit more regular now than i did while on dip. I do have some crazy ass gas every day though... wondering if its chewing gum and air, or smokey mountain???? dunno.
Moments in evening when I feel irribable, and have a headache. but see it coming and out smart it. everything cool there.
Aside from the normal difficulties of quit, I want to list some positives I've already seen:
- As mentioned, my mouth healing, well its the healthiest its been since i started the nasty habit
- I have lots more energy in the Gym. All Olympic lifts are up and overal energy has increased
- With the quit, i've been more inspired to improve other areas of health
- Used to drink soda on occasion. I've completely cut that out
- Incorporated cardio in workouts

Motivation to stay quit is not letting you all down, desire for complete overall health, NEVER want to go through that first few days again, want to live with my whole face.....

Now that i think clearer, its a fucking crime its even legal to sell an addictive substance that will eventually kill you.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 13, 2015, 02:41:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
just want to add a journal entry.

Creeping in on two weeks of quit

As of now, I feel pretty damn good. I've learned when the triggers happen and i prepare for them in advance (with Smokey mountain). Morning coffee and after lunch. aside from that, i chew quite a bit of orbit gum.
If i'm busy most of the day, symptoms go un noticed. staying busy for the first while is key
Yes i have urges to chew that come out of nowhere. But i stay proactive and not let my mind wander to justify one more dip. it isn't an option. I realize this will be a skill i need to keep sharp the rest of my life.
My sleep has improved drastically. didn't get much sleep first 8-10 days. Now i sleep normal again
Dippers pouch has diminished.
I am finally productive at work again. I'll admit, i was uselss for the first 8-9 days.
Alot of folks said constipation, etc. I shit more regular now than i did while on dip. I do have some crazy ass gas every day though... wondering if its chewing gum and air, or smokey mountain???? dunno.
Moments in evening when I feel irribable, and have a headache. but see it coming and out smart it. everything cool there.
Aside from the normal difficulties of quit, I want to list some positives I've already seen:
- As mentioned, my mouth healing, well its the healthiest its been since i started the nasty habit
- I have lots more energy in the Gym. All Olympic lifts are up and overal energy has increased
- With the quit, i've been more inspired to improve other areas of health
- Used to drink soda on occasion. I've completely cut that out
- Incorporated cardio in workouts

Motivation to stay quit is not letting you all down, desire for complete overall health, NEVER want to go through that first few days again, want to live with my whole face.....

Now that i think clearer, its a fucking crime its even legal to sell an addictive substance that will eventually kill you.
Understand my friend there will Always be urges to fatty up. Be prepared balls to the wall! Laugh and say not this time, its mine and I own it! Proud to be quit with you today
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: worktowin on March 13, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: rubble
just want to add a journal entry.

Creeping in on two weeks of quit

As of now, I feel pretty damn good. I've learned when the triggers happen and i prepare for them in advance (with Smokey mountain). Morning coffee and after lunch. aside from that, i chew quite a bit of orbit gum.
If i'm busy most of the day, symptoms go un noticed. staying busy for the first while is key
Yes i have urges to chew that come out of nowhere. But i stay proactive and not let my mind wander to justify one more dip. it isn't an option. I realize this will be a skill i need to keep sharp the rest of my life.
My sleep has improved drastically. didn't get much sleep first 8-10 days. Now i sleep normal again
Dippers pouch has diminished.
I am finally productive at work again. I'll admit, i was uselss for the first 8-9 days.
Alot of folks said constipation, etc. I shit more regular now than i did while on dip. I do have some crazy ass gas every day though... wondering if its chewing gum and air, or smokey mountain???? dunno.
Moments in evening when I feel irribable, and have a headache. but see it coming and out smart it. everything cool there.
Aside from the normal difficulties of quit, I want to list some positives I've already seen:
- As mentioned, my mouth healing, well its the healthiest its been since i started the nasty habit
- I have lots more energy in the Gym. All Olympic lifts are up and overal energy has increased
- With the quit, i've been more inspired to improve other areas of health
- Used to drink soda on occasion. I've completely cut that out
- Incorporated cardio in workouts

Motivation to stay quit is not letting you all down, desire for complete overall health, NEVER want to go through that first few days again, want to live with my whole face.....

Now that i think clearer, its a fucking crime its even legal to sell an addictive substance that will eventually kill you.
Understand my friend there will Always be urges to fatty up. Be prepared balls to the wall! Laugh and say not this time, its mine and I own it! Proud to be quit with you today
Rubble - go back and re read your first post. You have come a long way. More greatness ahead.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: Jerk11 on March 15, 2015, 04:23:00 PM
Congrats on hitting two full weeks nicotine free- that is quite the accomplishment, isn't it? Don't you feel so much better?

It will continue to get better every day. Celebrate Day 14 the same as Day 20, 30, 40, 50, 100, 1,000, etc. Every day without the poison calls for celebration!

I wrestled as well. Our stories seem similar. Day 70 here- you can't imagine how much better it will get for you. If you want another Quit buddies number, feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: gb321 on March 15, 2015, 04:31:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: rubble
one more question for veterans.

I hate to admit it, but i am using smokey mountain fake stuff as a crutch in those moments I know would be triggers. Its working.

Do ya all recommend a time frame to ween off the fake?
When you get tired of paying for it.

Most of us keep s can of fake around just in case. Most of us don't use it once we get tired of paying for it.
Re reading this right now. I have 5 cans of hooch herbal snuff. That stuff is so disgusting to me I tried it a couple times its not my cup of tea. I haven't really had the urge to do it even when I get a crave. I don't need it but I keep it just in case you never really know.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on March 16, 2015, 01:54:00 PM
Diary entry

survived 2nd weekend of quit.

Its strange how my quit transitions.

Honestly on day 14, i didn't really have a craving, but i had a feeling of, "I am tired of quitting, I just want a chew. Hell a lot of people chew and no big thing". So all of you that are on your day 5 -10, that ole bitch will try and get you when you when you relax. You need to be on your toes and make the commitment each day to your self, and the other June guys through role. stay accountable.

What i did when i had that above notion, was remember my commitment to myself and you all, then read a cancer horror story, and read other things on this site. I got through it, and today I felt ashamed for thinking that way. those thoughts came and went. I feel great today. Its important to make the commitment early each day.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: pab1964 on March 16, 2015, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: rubble
Diary entry

survived 2nd weekend of quit.

Its strange how my quit transitions.

Honestly on day 14, i didn't really have a craving, but i had a feeling of, "I am tired of quitting, I just want a chew. Hell a lot of people chew and no big thing". So all of you that are on your day 5 -10, that ole bitch will try and get you when you when you relax. You need to be on your toes and make the commitment each day to your self, and the other June guys through role. stay accountable.

What i did when i had that above notion, was remember my commitment to myself and you all, then read a cancer horror story, and read other things on this site. I got through it, and today I felt ashamed for thinking that way. those thoughts came and went. I feel great today. Its important to make the commitment early each day.
Keep on kicking the bitch down! Everyday without nic should make you a proud man! This shit ain't easy, you gotta grab your sac and stay focused and refuse to look back! Damn proud to be quit with you today my friend!
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: rubble on April 27, 2015, 11:17:00 AM
Diary entry for anybody toying with the idea of quitting. I'm by no means a veteran. I am on day 57. Damn near two months nicotine free. 34 years old, dipped since i was 16 or 17,.... whatever that adds up to be... 17 years or so.

This is what i went through.

Day 1 - 3 -- Very tough. Found my mind trying to constantly justify having one dip. dizzy, no focus, useless at work, etc.
Day 4 - 10 -- Tough, but doable. no excuse now to cave. By about day 7, a big motivator was "there is no way i want to go through days 1-3 again. Still foggy. Working out helps. I also hit the dentist at day 10 for cleaning and checkup.
Day 10 - 30 -- Getting easier. cravings come, mental triggers are the thing to watch now. Don't drink an booze during this time. I was feeling good. had a few beers, and it was as tough as day 1 with a buzz going. I made it, but it was tough.
day 30 to now -- Cruising. guard up. I rarely have physical cravings. when i do, i can beat them off pretty easy. have them maybe a couple times per week. I'll tell you what, the freedom is awsome. no planning on how to sneak dip, etc. I had a a few beers a few days ago, and it was no problem.

I was initially worried about gaining weight. I personally didn't gain a pound, though i am in the gym a lot.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't say i'm out of the woods. here and there, the addiction will try convince me to have a dip. But, i can say it isn't hard to beat these times. not hard at all, because my mind is made up.

Guess what i'm saying is there is no excuse to not quit. yes hard, but if my ass can do it after 17 years anybody can.
Title: Re: Day 3
Post by: KingNothing on July 29, 2015, 02:39:00 PM
This whole intro is bad ass. It gives us newbies hope that these first few weeks will all be worth it in short order. Thanks for posting this and I am quit with you today Rubble. Also, congratulations on 150 today, it must be mind-blowing to post that number and read back on your first few posts. Awesome.