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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Willco on April 26, 2014, 03:40:00 PM
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Hi Everyone.
Chewed Cope and Cope long cut for 25 years or so. I have quit a few times only to cave. This time, it's for real. About 2 months ago I began having some funny heart palpitations, like I would get an extra beat. It was fairly strong and I could definitely feel it. Obviously I was concerned and went on a complete mission to figure out what was going on. I figured one thing I can do is quit chewing. I immediately went from Cope to mixing 1/2 can of skoal wintergreen with 1/2 a can of Smokey Mountain. Low and behold, the palpitations vanished. One day, I forgot my "mix", so I bought a can of Copenhagen. Guess what happened? Sure enough the Palpitations came back. I went back to the mix and they stopped again. I'm figuring there must have been something in the Copenhagen that was doing it or the concentration of nicotine. Have seen the Dr. and while what I was having is very common they also believe it very well may have been the Copenhagen.
I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience or has heard of this before...
Anyways, I've been on the road. Currently I am at 20% Skoal 80% Smokey Mountain mix. I am weaning myself off. I will go to 15%, then 10%, then 5, then 0. That's my plan. This time, I am sticking to it. I have to for my and my family's sake. I feel very motivated to do this.
So, while I cannot say I've officially "Quit", I am well on the road and as I said, I am motivated.
Any tips, suggestions, advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Everyone.
Chewed Cope and Cope long cut for 25 years or so. I have quit a few times only to cave. This time, it's for real. About 2 months ago I began having some funny heart palpitations, like I would get an extra beat. It was fairly strong and I could definitely feel it. Obviously I was concerned and went on a complete mission to figure out what was going on. I figured one thing I can do is quit chewing. I immediately went from Cope to mixing 1/2 can of skoal wintergreen with 1/2 a can of Smokey Mountain. Low and behold, the palpitations vanished. One day, I forgot my "mix", so I bought a can of Copenhagen. Guess what happened? Sure enough the Palpitations came back. I went back to the mix and they stopped again. I'm figuring there must have been something in the Copenhagen that was doing it or the concentration of nicotine. Have seen the Dr. and while what I was having is very common they also believe it very well may have been the Copenhagen.
I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience or has heard of this before...
Anyways, I've been on the road. Currently I am at 20% Skoal 80% Smokey Mountain mix. I am weaning myself off. I will go to 15%, then 10%, then 5, then 0. That's my plan. This time, I am sticking to it. I have to for my and my family's sake. I feel very motivated to do this.
So, while I cannot say I've officially "Quit", I am well on the road and as I said, I am motivated.
Any tips, suggestions, advice would be greatly appreciated.
Stop "weening" yourself. Just grab your sack and quit. No more nicotine, that's how we roll here.
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tips, suggestions, advice.................Yeah, I got some... QUIT and not because of your heart or your family or your doctor. Quit because deep down you have told yourself for years that you want to quit. You don't want to be a slave to any drug or anyone. Quit, because now you have me and GrizzClaws on your team. And guess what, there are going to be a lot more quitters on here standing in your corner. Let's get it Will, just quit. No sense in being a pussy about it and mixing drugs with placebos. Just freaking quit and be done with it. Make the decision and stick to it.
Mogul
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Grizzly, I appreciate your advice but I respectfully decline. I've tried Cold Turkey and it hasn't ever worked. My best results came from this process before.
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tips, suggestions, advice.................Yeah, I got some... QUIT and not because of your heart or your family or your doctor. Quit because deep down you have told yourself for years that you want to quit. You don't want to be a slave to any drug or anyone. Quit, because now you have me and GrizzClaws on your team. And guess what, there are going to be a lot more quitters on here standing in your corner. Let's get it Will, just quit. No sense in being a pussy about it and mixing drugs with placebos. Just freaking quit and be done with it. Make the decision and stick to it.
Mogul
Thanks Mogul, I DO want to quit because I am tired of being a slave to nicotine. It's been on my mind for a long, long time. It took this event to kick me in the ass to move forward. Call me a pussy but I am going to continue on the road I am on. It will be a couple weeks and I'll be off the nicotine completely.
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Grizzly, I appreciate your advice but I respectfully decline. I've tried Cold Turkey and it hasn't ever worked. My best results came from this process before.
Why are you here if quitting isn't your goal - KTC is a NO NICOTINE quit site!
Suggest you find some place else
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tips, suggestions, advice.................Yeah, I got some... QUIT and not because of your heart or your family or your doctor. Quit because deep down you have told yourself for years that you want to quit. You don't want to be a slave to any drug or anyone. Quit, because now you have me and GrizzClaws on your team. And guess what, there are going to be a lot more quitters on here standing in your corner. Let's get it Will, just quit. No sense in being a pussy about it and mixing drugs with placebos. Just freaking quit and be done with it. Make the decision and stick to it.
Mogul
Thanks Mogul, I DO want to quit because I am tired of being a slave to nicotine. It's been on my mind for a long, long time. It took this event to kick me in the ass to move forward. Call me a pussy but I am going to continue on the road I am on. It will be a couple weeks and I'll be off the nicotine completely.
ok, bro, come back in a couple weeks and let us know how it is going. I really do wish you the best but this is a no nicotine site and we (I) ask that you respect that. So please, NO chew while you are posting here. If your way doesn't work, come back and maybe we can help.
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tips, suggestions, advice.................Yeah, I got some... QUIT and not because of your heart or your family or your doctor. Quit because deep down you have told yourself for years that you want to quit. You don't want to be a slave to any drug or anyone. Quit, because now you have me and GrizzClaws on your team. And guess what, there are going to be a lot more quitters on here standing in your corner. Let's get it Will, just quit. No sense in being a pussy about it and mixing drugs with placebos. Just freaking quit and be done with it. Make the decision and stick to it.
Mogul
Thanks Mogul, I DO want to quit because I am tired of being a slave to nicotine. It's been on my mind for a long, long time. It took this event to kick me in the ass to move forward. Call me a pussy but I am going to continue on the road I am on. It will be a couple weeks and I'll be off the nicotine completely.
ok, bro, come back in a couple weeks and let us know how it is going. I really do wish you the best but this is a no nicotine site and we (I) ask that you respect that. So please, NO chew while you are posting here. If your way doesn't work, come back and maybe we can help.
Good luck with your way. If you decide to quit come on back.
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I am at 20% Skoal 80% Smokey Mountain mix. I am weaning myself off. I will go to 15%, then 10%, then 5, then 0.
Man, this is got to be the most ridiculous crap I've seen in a while. 20%, 30%, 80%. Then we got 15%, 10%, and 5. WTF are you even talking about? Did you come up with this load of complete and utter bull sh@@ yourself. You must be some kind of genius.
You should put this on youtube and start your own site bro. 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'.
Stop the mandness, please! How about 0% right now. Take your life back and stop believing the lies. You even mentioned that this worked before. Wake up and smell the roses. Why are you here? News flash,, DIDN'T WORK! 'bang head'
It's amazing what the poison can put a mind through. 'help'
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Grizzly, I appreciate your advice but I respectfully decline. I've tried Cold Turkey and it hasn't ever worked. My best results came from this process before.
Your best results? Those results weren't that good or you'd be quit. You're addict mind is calling the shots.
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tips, suggestions, advice.................Yeah, I got some... QUIT and not because of your heart or your family or your doctor. Quit because deep down you have told yourself for years that you want to quit. You don't want to be a slave to any drug or anyone. Quit, because now you have me and GrizzClaws on your team. And guess what, there are going to be a lot more quitters on here standing in your corner. Let's get it Will, just quit. No sense in being a pussy about it and mixing drugs with placebos. Just freaking quit and be done with it. Make the decision and stick to it.
Mogul
Thanks Mogul, I DO want to quit because I am tired of being a slave to nicotine. It's been on my mind for a long, long time. It took this event to kick me in the ass to move forward. Call me a pussy but I am going to continue on the road I am on. It will be a couple weeks and I'll be off the nicotine completely.
Obviously you know what you're doing because it's worked so well in the past. I thought I read that you stopped a few times only to start againÂ…actually you used the words "quit" and "cave"Â…but you never really quit; you just stopped and started. Other than that, I second everything that Srans and my fellow quitters at KTC said.
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
I was like you. Thought i had to come up with some elaborate plan. It's not as difficult as you think. You have to quit today to begin uncovering the lies. You would be surprised at what accountability and knowledge will do for you.
A lot of information is on this site. Look around. Read, read and read.
Literally 1000's have used this site to quit. This plan works. Come back if your plan doesn't work well.
So far your hoping, wishing and wanting. How about taking your freedom back. How about taking your dignity back. The poison don't just hand it over. Your move. Srans; 25 year user. Day 436. Proof is in the pudding.
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
mr moderator ha we'll keep the quit lights burning bright to help you find your way to the quit land
dude sack it up and quit all you're doing is prolonging the nicotine withdrawal (which doesn't start until you stop using nicotine)
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
mr moderator ha we'll keep the quit lights burning bright to help you find your way to the quit land
dude sack it up and quit all you're doing is prolonging the nicotine withdrawal (which doesn't start until you stop using nicotine)
Nicotine is so much more addictive than most anyone understands.
If you were addicted to vodka, would you switch to Chardonnay to beat alcoholism?
If you were addicted to OxyContin, would you switch to Vicodin to beat your addiction?
If you were addicted to methamphetamines, would you switch to a little sniff of coke here and there?
We get you. We were you. I made up excuses for 25 years. So did Srans... And mogul... And cbird... We all tried for years. Then we quit. We quit by joining this site and following the plan. The only one that works... No patches, no gum, no bullshit. And, this is pretty out of character for me, but if you don't like the plan, get the fuck out. This plan saved our lives and we are trying to help you save yours while you weigh out your 20% mixtures of neurotoxin and tell us how this has worked for you in the past.
You are an addict. We are addicts too! We are quit. I sure wish you'd stop dabbling with fire... And I sure hope this mixture of poison isn't the one that causes you to get cancer. The ball is in your court man. We will help you, but you gotta want the help.
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Wow.
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
mr moderator ha we'll keep the quit lights burning bright to help you find your way to the quit land
dude sack it up and quit all you're doing is prolonging the nicotine withdrawal (which doesn't start until you stop using nicotine)
Nicotine is so much more addictive than most anyone understands.
If you were addicted to vodka, would you switch to Chardonnay to beat alcoholism?
If you were addicted to OxyContin, would you switch to Vicodin to beat your addiction?
If you were addicted to methamphetamines, would you switch to a little sniff of coke here and there?
We get you. We were you. I made up excuses for 25 years. So did Srans... And mogul... And cbird... We all tried for years. Then we quit. We quit by joining this site and following the plan. The only one that works... No patches, no gum, no bullshit. And, this is pretty out of character for me, but if you don't like the plan, get the fuck out. This plan saved our lives and we are trying to help you save yours while you weigh out your 20% mixtures of neurotoxin and tell us how this has worked for you in the past.
You are an addict. We are addicts too! We are quit. I sure wish you'd stop dabbling with fire... And I sure hope this mixture of poison isn't the one that causes you to get cancer. The ball is in your court man. We will help you, but you gotta want the help.
Perfect. Absolutely the TRUTH and Perfect.
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
mr moderator ha we'll keep the quit lights burning bright to help you find your way to the quit land
dude sack it up and quit all you're doing is prolonging the nicotine withdrawal (which doesn't start until you stop using nicotine)
Nicotine is so much more addictive than most anyone understands.
If you were addicted to vodka, would you switch to Chardonnay to beat alcoholism?
If you were addicted to OxyContin, would you switch to Vicodin to beat your addiction?
If you were addicted to methamphetamines, would you switch to a little sniff of coke here and there?
We get you. We were you. I made up excuses for 25 years. So did Srans... And mogul... And cbird... We all tried for years. Then we quit. We quit by joining this site and following the plan. The only one that works... No patches, no gum, no bullshit. And, this is pretty out of character for me, but if you don't like the plan, get the fuck out. This plan saved our lives and we are trying to help you save yours while you weigh out your 20% mixtures of neurotoxin and tell us how this has worked for you in the past.
You are an addict. We are addicts too! We are quit. I sure wish you'd stop dabbling with fire... And I sure hope this mixture of poison isn't the one that causes you to get cancer. The ball is in your court man. We will help you, but you gotta want the help.
Perfect. Absolutely the TRUTH and Perfect.
Dear Worktowin,
It is a shame that rant is wasted on a guy that is not coming back.
Well said brother. I am quit with you all day long.
Sincerely yours, Derk40
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Sorry guys. Didn't realize this was "No Nicotine". Don't worry, I will not bother you all with my presence again.
Thanks for the warm welcome!
Dear Moderator.
Please close the thread and discontinue my membership.
What are you a "flower child"? Warm Welcome????? Dear Moderator???? WTF man???? the ladies of KTC have more proverbial balls......
mr moderator ha we'll keep the quit lights burning bright to help you find your way to the quit land
dude sack it up and quit all you're doing is prolonging the nicotine withdrawal (which doesn't start until you stop using nicotine)
Nicotine is so much more addictive than most anyone understands.
If you were addicted to vodka, would you switch to Chardonnay to beat alcoholism?
If you were addicted to OxyContin, would you switch to Vicodin to beat your addiction?
If you were addicted to methamphetamines, would you switch to a little sniff of coke here and there?
We get you. We were you. I made up excuses for 25 years. So did Srans... And mogul... And cbird... We all tried for years. Then we quit. We quit by joining this site and following the plan. The only one that works... No patches, no gum, no bullshit. And, this is pretty out of character for me, but if you don't like the plan, get the fuck out. This plan saved our lives and we are trying to help you save yours while you weigh out your 20% mixtures of neurotoxin and tell us how this has worked for you in the past.
You are an addict. We are addicts too! We are quit. I sure wish you'd stop dabbling with fire... And I sure hope this mixture of poison isn't the one that causes you to get cancer. The ball is in your court man. We will help you, but you gotta want the help.
Perfect. Absolutely the TRUTH and Perfect.
Dear Worktowin,
It is a shame that rant is wasted on a guy that is not coming back.
Well said brother. I am quit with you all day long.
Sincerely yours, Derk40
Wish I always got this warm of a welcome from those who actually care. We are blunt, to the point and here to help BUT only when you are accepting of it.
We have seen many before you which is why the response and advice that we give. So if you do come back and read this, put everything else aside and you will see the truth. You are not alone.