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Title: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 04, 2011, 10:45:00 AM
Good day all. new here, a coworker told me about this site. I have been dipping addictively for 25 years. I am tired of being a slave to the Nic bitch. Extremely tired of hiding it from the people I love, arguing with the wife about it. It's just not worth it anymore. I recently quit for just under three months, got stressed out over a report that was past due, working long long hours at work. I have stopped dipping twice since 2000. Once for 87 days and then again just a few months ago. Never can seem to get past the 3 month mark. This time it has to happen for good. My withdrawl symptoms were never really bad. The biggest being getting very sleepy, usually about day 5. I know I can do it, I just need to stick with it and get past the 100 day mark and beyond. This crap just isn't worth the trouble.. I have had it with dipping and all that is associated with it. I have tried rocky mountian chew, it works but it's hard to find. I would run out and then drive to the local convienance store and buy the real thing, thinking that one dip wouldn't hurt, until
I got some rocky mountain again! WRONG!!!! Also have tried nicorette gum, huge help, but expensive. So my plan this time is just cold turkey. I'm tired of lying about it all the time, just tired.
Thanks to all for setting up this site. I know it will be a huge help for me and I WILL SUCCEED, THIS TIME FOR GOOD!!!!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: Scowick65 on April 04, 2011, 10:51:00 AM
Ok, Bill, I have some stuff for you to read. First thing is first. We post roll everyday. You will be in the July 2011 group. Read how to post roll and post now. If you have the guts, we have the plan. Lets get this done once and for all. Glad to have you.

You are about to get a lot of support. Bring it guys.




Here are some links you may find helpful...

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A how to get started by Remy:

index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS

index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)

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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.

index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)

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What to Expect when you quit.

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)

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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew

http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)

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Contract to give up...

http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)

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Smokeless alternatives

http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)

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Words of Wisdom, Read them all

index.php?showforum=41 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41)

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May 2008 TTFers

index.php?showtopic=1179 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1179)


Read this group from the very first post to the very last post.

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How to post roll.

index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)

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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last (MOST RECENT) Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, check to see that the last few people to post are still on your roll call. Keep your word.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: Bean on April 04, 2011, 11:49:00 AM
Great choice, Bill. I dipped for 20 years...quit lots of times during those years, but usually just for a week or two.

Now I'm 205 days quit and the only thing that I've done differently this time is USE THIS SITE...posting roll every day, reading all I can, checking back to help others fight nicotine, etc.

No pills, no patches, no bullshit...just plain quitting here. Quitting is done one day at a time. Just post up and live nic free. We're in this together, brother.

-Bean
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: husker06484 on April 04, 2011, 12:24:00 PM
Bill...You the man! You have made the greatest decision of your life...HEre is the thing dont lie to yourself and tell yourself that the withdrawl wasnt that bad...."My withdrawl symptoms were never really bad. The biggest being getting very sleepy, usually about day 5. I know I can do it, I just need to stick with it and get past the 100 day mark and beyond. This crap just isn't worth the trouble.. I have had it with dipping and all that is associated with it."

If it wasnt bad you would be quit right now...The Nic Bitch is one powerful bitch....her whispers are intoxicating at times and the strong tell her to go fuck off.....You are doing the right thing....post roll everyday and keep your word...Day by day hour by hour minute by minute....Your word is all that you got make sure it means something

USe this site..Its a great site I dipped every day for 16 years and I never thought I could quit...I am at day 19 rite now and loving life...I got my life back no more lies no more worries....You need anythin PM me......

Stay Strong Stay Quit!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: RagingJew on April 04, 2011, 01:10:00 PM
We've all in one way or another hid our addiction from time to time, but in no way should you hide your Quit. Let your wife know that you're gonna be an irritable ass for the next week or so, might want to spill your guts to your employer just in case. Embrace the suck.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 04, 2011, 01:19:00 PM
Thanks, all thoughts and coments are certainly welcome. Thanks in advance for the much needed advice and support. Did a five mile run at lunch, without a dip. I was one of those dippers that never spit. Felt great! Doing it your way Bean: no patches, no pills, no gum!! just done!!!! 7 hours and doing good! No thoughts of caving yet. Although I know they will come!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: Ready on April 04, 2011, 01:51:00 PM
Your story is similar to mine. I was exactly where you are over three years ago.

You can do this.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: ninereasons on April 04, 2011, 03:06:00 PM
Congratulations on your decision bill. I'm quitting with you, and I'm now at day 49. Like you, I never spit. No one but other dippers knew what the bump in my cheek was. And also like you, during these three decades that I've used tobacco, I've quit several times. I quit for 3 years, when I was in college (campus rules forbid it). When I've quit - numerous times - it's usually been for a few months at a time.

If you're as much like me and a lot of others here as you seem, complacency is your big obstacle. As time wore on you forgot why you wanted to quit. Maybe you started to romanticize chewing. Thoughts of it bring back pleasant memories of time spent alone or with friends in the wild, working, driving, whatever. You start to think, maybe there's a way to be moderate.

When you want to do something, you get it done. But what happens when you no longer want it? You need a plan. You'll find what you need here.

Welcome.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 05, 2011, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: ninereasons
Congratulations on your decision bill. I'm quitting with you, and I'm now at day 49. Like you, I never spit. No one but other dippers knew what the bump in my cheek was. And also like you, during these three decades that I've used tobacco, I've quit several times. I quit for 3 years, when I was in college (campus rules forbid it). When I've quit - numerous times - it's usually been for a few months at a time.

If you're as much like me and a lot of others here as you seem, complacency is your big obstacle. As time wore on you forgot why you wanted to quit. Maybe you started to romanticize chewing. Thoughts of it bring back pleasant memories of time spent alone or with friends in the wild, working, driving, whatever. You start to think, maybe there's a way to be moderate.

When you want to do something, you get it done. But what happens when you no longer want it? You need a plan. You'll find what you need here.

Welcome.
Man the day two craves will not end!! But I have noticed at least for the moment that the HARD really hard hits, only last 10 minutes on the average. Whew man, what a ride. Problem is the craves are coming every 15 minutes, basically I have 5 minutes of peace!!! Oh well I know that it will be worth it. I have to do this!! I just have too. I WANT TO DO this I must do this .
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: husker06484 on April 05, 2011, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: billd76
Quote from: ninereasons
Congratulations on your decision bill.  I'm quitting with you, and I'm now at day 49.  Like you, I never spit.  No one but other dippers knew what the bump in my cheek was.  And also like you, during these three decades that I've used tobacco, I've quit several times.  I quit for 3 years, when I was in college (campus rules forbid it).  When I've quit - numerous times - it's usually been for a few months at a time.

If you're as much like me and a lot of others here as you seem, complacency is your big obstacle.  As time wore on you forgot why you wanted to quit.  Maybe you started to romanticize chewing.  Thoughts of it bring back pleasant memories of time spent alone or with friends in the wild, working, driving, whatever.  You start to think, maybe there's a way to be moderate. 

When you want to do something, you get it done.  But what happens when you no longer want it?  You need a plan.  You'll find what you need here. 

Welcome.
Man the day two craves will not end!! But I have noticed at least for the moment that the HARD really hard hits, only last 10 minutes on the average. Whew man, what a ride. Problem is the craves are coming every 15 minutes, basically I have 5 minutes of peace!!! Oh well I know that it will be worth it. I have to do this!! I just have too. I WANT TO DO this I must do this .
I have to do this!! I just have too. I WANT TO DO this I must do this.....

Change this way of thinking.....I will do this, I am doing this...Get rid of the haves and wants and just do...You are doing it...You are doing great...Day by day, hour by hour, fucking minute by minute....Stay strong Stay quit!!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: ninereasons on April 05, 2011, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: husker06484
Quote from: billd76
Quote from: ninereasons
Congratulations on your decision bill.  I'm quitting with you, and I'm now at day 49.  Like you, I never spit.  No one but other dippers knew what the bump in my cheek was.  And also like you, during these three decades that I've used tobacco, I've quit several times.  I quit for 3 years, when I was in college (campus rules forbid it).   When I've quit - numerous times - it's usually been for a few months at a time.

If you're as much like me and a lot of others here as you seem, complacency is your big obstacle.  As time wore on you forgot why you wanted to quit.  Maybe you started to romanticize chewing.  Thoughts of it bring back pleasant memories of time spent alone or with friends in the wild, working, driving, whatever.  You start to think, maybe there's a way to be moderate. 

When you want to do something, you get it done.  But what happens when you no longer want it?  You need a plan.  You'll find what you need here. 

Welcome.
Man the day two craves will not end!! But I have noticed at least for the moment that the HARD really hard hits, only last 10 minutes on the average. Whew man, what a ride. Problem is the craves are coming every 15 minutes, basically I have 5 minutes of peace!!! Oh well I know that it will be worth it. I have to do this!! I just have too. I WANT TO DO this I must do this .
I have to do this!! I just have too. I WANT TO DO this I must do this.....

Change this way of thinking.....I will do this, I am doing this...Get rid of the haves and wants and just do...You are doing it...You are doing great...Day by day, hour by hour, fucking minute by minute....Stay strong Stay quit!!!
You've come too far to go back - I'm sure you see that.

To give in today would mean breaking your promise to guys in your group. It would mean you can't look at yourself in the mirror without seeing a liar, a loser and a slave. To cave would mean you love tobacco more than your word and more than your future.

And now that you've signed up, if you decide you want to cave you need to read the fine print. It's a requirement for all cavers to request the permission of LOOT, SkoalMonster and NoOneLikesAQuitter (actually any three HOFers) They all have to sign off on it, or else you pay a huge penalty. You think you feel bad now ... !
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 06, 2011, 08:29:00 AM
whew day three underway, the chat room at night, strenghtens my resolve. This morning seems easier, and another guy at work is quitting. this morning when the craves hit, I'm just chanting to myself "kill the can" and at the same time remembering the names or at least some of the names that were on the chat line last night. Seems to help , I will not let my team down!!!!!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: miles on April 06, 2011, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: billd76
whew day three underway, the chat room at night, strenghtens my resolve. This morning seems easier, and another guy at work is quitting. this morning when the craves hit, I'm just chanting to myself "kill the can" and at the same time remembering the names or at least some of the names that were on the chat line last night. Seems to help , I will not let my team down!!!!!!
Kicking ass bill! You got this brother.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: G on April 06, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: billd76
whew day three underway, the chat room at night, strenghtens my resolve. This morning seems easier, and another guy at work is quitting. this morning when the craves hit, I'm just chanting to myself "kill the can" and at the same time remembering the names or at least some of the names that were on the chat line last night. Seems to help , I will not let my team down!!!!!!
Billd, if I had known you were struggling last night, I would have gone lighter on the ghey stuff and dropped some knowledge. Sounds like you're doing whatever it takes to be quit. And that = quit no matter how you slice it.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 06, 2011, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: gmann
Quote from: billd76
whew day three underway, the chat room at night, strenghtens my resolve.  This morning seems easier, and  another guy at work is quitting.  this morning when the craves hit, I'm just chanting to myself "kill the can" and at the same time remembering the  names or at least some of the names that were on the chat line last night. Seems to help , I will not let my team down!!!!!!
Billd, if I had known you were struggling last night, I would have gone lighter on the ghey stuff and dropped some knowledge. Sounds like you're doing whatever it takes to be quit. And that = quit no matter how you slice it.

Wasn't struggling while chatting last night, took my mind totally off the crap!! The chat room really drives home the fact that one, I am not alone in this and that there are alot of good people that care!! and humerous as well. can't get any better than that. I can't garuarntee that I can make it to the room evert night, but will do my best!! Thanks all!! I really couldn't do this without you. Or at least it would be a whole lot tougher!!
Quote from: billd76
whew day three underway, the chat room at night, strenghtens my resolve.  This morning seems easier, and  another guy at work is quitting.  this morning when the craves hit, I'm just chanting to myself "kill the can" and at the same time remembering the  names or at least some of the names that were on the chat line last night. Seems to help , I will not let my team down!!!!!!
Billd, if I had known you were struggling last night, I would have gone lighter on the ghey stuff and dropped some knowledge. Sounds like you're doing whatever it takes to be quit. And that = quit no matter how you slice it.

Wasn't struggling while chatting last night, took my mind totally off the crap!! The chat room really drives home the fact that one, I am not alone in this and that there are alot of good people that care!! and humerous as well. can't get any better than that. I can't garuarntee that I can make it to the room evert night, but will do my best!! Thanks all!! I really couldn't do this without you. Or at least it would be a whole lot tougher!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 07, 2011, 08:02:00 AM
Man this morning was a tough one. THe chat room at night makes the evening alot easier. Hope everyone is staying quit, the guy at work that said he was done yesterday afternoon has already caved. I yelled at him and called him weak.
I noticed when I kissed my wife goodbay this morning, that it tasted sweeter than ever.
I had a big meeting yesterday and for the first time in years, I went into the meeting without having to chew gum to hide the stench of the can!! that felt great. Not having to hide the crap in the side of my sock when leaving the house so the wife didn't see it, is a great thing too.
My five mile run yesterday felt great, I usually run it in 45 minutes, did it in 41 yesterday. Probably really had nothing to do with quiting, but I like to think that is did!!
The craves suck, but things seem to be getting better, not easier by any means, but better. KILL THE CAN!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: G on April 07, 2011, 09:33:00 AM
Quote from: billd76
Man this morning was a tough one. THe chat room at night makes the evening alot easier. Hope everyone is staying quit, the guy at work that said he was done yesterday afternoon has already caved. I yelled at him and called him weak.
I noticed when I kissed my wife goodbay this morning, that it tasted sweeter than ever.
I had a big meeting yesterday and for the first time in years, I went into the meeting without having to chew gum to hide the stench of the can!! that felt great. Not having to hide the crap in the side of my sock when leaving the house so the wife didn't see it, is a great thing too.
My five mile run yesterday felt great, I usually run it in 45 minutes, did it in 41 yesterday. Probably really had nothing to do with quiting, but I like to think that is did!!
The craves suck, but things seem to be getting better, not easier by any means, but better. KILL THE CAN!!!!!!!!
Your friend at work doesn't have any accountability. You do. You are here. You post roll everyday and are a man of your word. You are quit. He isn't.
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 07, 2011, 10:12:00 AM
yeah, hopefully I will figure out how to post roll properly so that it doens't have to keep being fixed by one of the moderators :D
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: billd76 on April 08, 2011, 08:28:00 AM
DAY 5!!! and still alive!! Amazing! after shower trigger crave is getting a tad bit easier, after coffee the same, drive to work, after second coffee getting to work, during work, lunch, HA!! Damn my whole day is a friggin trigger!!! Driving through the fog needs to get better and I hope soon. Scary when I get somehwere and don't even remember the drive. I work at a DOD test facility, did a test that required four hours of continious operation of a military vehicle. I don't even remember being out on the test track. Some one tapped me on the shoulder and said "we're done" man that was crazy!! It's like I slept throught the whole thing. When I working on reports I can't keep my eyes open. It comes and goes, one minute I'm fine, the next all I want to do is sleep!! Seems better in that aspect today. Anyone else going trough this, strong coffee does not help!! Man, tell every young person you see to stay away from this crap!!!!! I don't ever want to go through this again!! too much hassle!! My quit will stay quit!!!!! I am better than this nic bitch!!
Title: Re: Again, but this it the last time!
Post by: jaygib on April 08, 2011, 08:50:00 AM
5 days, great job! If there was a quick fix and easy solution we wouldn't go into a quit knowing it is hard and will take effort--but you've already done the hardest parts of the journey. You got today, you got it.