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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: kingofresolve on March 03, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
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To all,
First I want to introduce myself. My name is Guy. I am 23 years old and I've evolved into a full blown dipper! I joined the military when I was 19 years old, wasn't a dipper at all. I tried it once, but I thought I was going to die immediately afterward! I went into some weird state, took a huge one my first go. You figure that would of kept me away. But no!
So I started hitting the can, little by little maybe a dip every other day or at least once a week I would bum one off someone when I wasn't doing anything. I went TDY and it was a long one and started buying my own cans. Within about 2 months I was doing about a can a day of skoal straight long cut. It was either that or Cope original Longcut. I liked the fact I could dip just about anywhere at anytime as long as my boss didn't care. Eventually the past 2 years I was dipping over a can a day. I would go through some of the cycles where my mouth would hurt and I would either switch sides, or stop for a day or two, I even tried upper decking a few times. So I've been dipping for a little over 3 years now.
I am ready to quit and just took my last one. I tried once before when I was deployed, but after 6 weeks I gave in and took one, and then another and then it was full game again.
I haven't really picked the best time to quick, give how busy I've been lately. I figure that in order to get out of the mindset that I have a lottery's ticket chance of quitting I just need to do it and quit waiting. I know it is going to take all I have to get through these first 3 months, but I hear that after that if you get yourself in a new lifestyle you can defeat the can, or kill it.
I just want to let you guys know. I'm with you now, and I got your backs when it comes to this silent but deadly foe!
Guy
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Guy, Welcome! pretty smart to quit so young!
Don't be an idiot and pick the can back up.....grab your nutsack and hold on you're gonna need to tugg on them for the next three days.....Thats how long it takes the nicotine to leave your body, the rest is just a mind game!
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Guy, Welcome! pretty smart to quit so young!
Don't be an idiot and pick the can back up.....grab your nutsack and hold on you're gonna need to tugg on them for the next three days.....Thats how long it takes the nicotine to leave your body, the rest is just a mind game!
Banner is right.. stop this shit while you are still young. Dont wait around like many of us did 20,30 years of stuffin our lip.
There is no "good" time to quit. It sucks no matter when you do it.
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It's a piece of cake after 3 days, I chewed 15 years and this is the first time I have honestly quit. I'm on day 17 and I don't miss my cope a bit. I feel great, its all in your head. Good luck man, kick her ass.
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Guy, Welcome! pretty smart to quit so young!Â
Don't be an idiot and pick the can back up.....grab your nutsack and hold on you're gonna need to tugg on them for the next three days.....Thats how long it takes the nicotine to leave your body, the rest is just a mind game!
Banner is right.. stop this shit while you are still young. Dont wait around like many of us did 20,30 years of stuffin our lip.
There is no "good" time to quit. It sucks no matter when you do it.
welcome
took me almost 30 years to get as smart as you are now.
read read read read and read some more.
everything you need to make this your final quit is here......step up and drink the kool-aid....
this will absolutely work....one day at a time...over and over
sing out if i can help
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Please come on in the group. Being a smoker and dipper for over 30 years and yes, I tried to quit many many time over the years.
I will say it is one of the hardest thing I ever done in my life and I am glad I have made the right decision. After the initial first few weeks. I am starting to feel better physically and mentally,knowing if i can finally quit this shit,I can do anything I want.
The chat/forum has saved my butt,many many times and these folks will hold you accountable for your quit and their. All you gotta do is ask and vent away.
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Guy,
I wish I'd quit at 23 , Instead I dipped for 15 more years. Roughly 5000 or 6000 cans. probably more. Alot woulda been different had I quit at your age. Your at a fork in the road bud, tighten your chinstrap get pissed off and do this. Don't even look back.
Think about 5,000 cans and what that means in terms of money, health, time, . AND the effects on your relationships. It's HUGE believe me.
This is the place, you can do this
SM
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All,
I appreciate the replies. It has been over 5 days now, the tough part I heard is over, and like you all said it is a mind game now. There was definitely some times I was exteremely pissed. I was sitting there in the office, boss right next to me as usual and one thing after another just keeps poping up. I'm now starting to get annoyed a all the little bullshit I go through at work. I just like to do my job, interact with people, help people, and do it over again. People just keep pulling this extra shit all the time, and it really made me wanna through a huge one in, but I didn't. I've battled through the last few days. I have only slept good one night out of 4. I wake up at about 2 or 3 in the morning craving one, but I just chug a glass of water and go to bed.
Its been tough, but each day gets easier. I'm starting to work out like I used to so that should help a lot. I used to be an athlete, and that is one thing I can get back to. I'm looking forward to my teeth becoming a lot cleaner as well. I know the women like it when you have a clean smile!
Guy
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All,
For those who have seen my initial post, I regret to inform you that I caved tonight. A good firend of mine who uses dipping pouches talked me into having one tonight. So the 8 days of hell that I just went through is about to start back up tomorrow.
I am sorry that I have to give this bad news to all of you, and I am truly embarassed in front of such a strong group of people that have put this crap down for good no matter what the circumstance.
It was a tough week for me, no matter what I said or did, in my own mind I just couldn't get the right outcome. I keep thinking that I left people that I work with doubts in the person I really am. I am not a person that can not learn from mistakes. I am not a person that can not take criticism when I know it is the best thing for me. I've been there in my life, I always feel like I have something to prove to someone, but really the only person that I have to prove something to is myself.
I am down now, but when I wake tomorrow it will be a new day and I will use it to defeat these deadly toxins.
I thank you for your support and day one starts again today.
God bless.
Guy
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All,
For those who have seen my initial post, I regret to inform you that I caved tonight. A good firend of mine who uses dipping pouches talked me into having one tonight. So the 8 days of hell that I just went through is about to start back up tomorrow.
I am sorry that I have to give this bad news to all of you, and I am truly embarassed in front of such a strong group of people that have put this crap down for good no matter what the circumstance.
It was a tough week for me, no matter what I said or did, in my own mind I just couldn't get the right outcome. I keep thinking that I left people that I work with doubts in the person I really am. I am not a person that can not learn from mistakes. I am not a person that can not take criticism when I know it is the best thing for me. I've been there in my life, I always feel like I have something to prove to someone, but really the only person that I have to prove something to is myself.
I am down now, but when I wake tomorrow it will be a new day and I will use it to defeat these deadly toxins.
I thank you for your support and day one starts again today.
God bless.
Guy
A "good friend" my ass, you shoulda punched your good friend in the nose. Just because he knows that he can't quit, he wants you to fail as well. So he talks you into a dip. What on earth could he have told you that made you believe it would be a good idea to cave? You just lit up every nicotine receptor in your head that you spent the last eight days trying to put to sleep. I bet your craving again already.
Its ok buttercup, you wanna do the suck four or five times until it really sinks in , well I guess thats your perogative. I personally wouldn't put that shit in my mouth for any friend, or any other reason. I am no stronger than you, infact probably a hell of alot weaker. This isn't about inner strength, it's about mental strength. Its about learning your a fucking addict and proceeding on with life accordingly.
There is no difference between you and a heroin addict except your choice of drug. If your down get some help. Go see your family doctor and see if he'll give you something to take the edge off a bit. Hit the Gym, but fuck dude don't go back to killing yourself!!! was that stupid ass skoal bandit REALLY worth it. Probablu fucking berry flavored too. Gawd, you caving dumbass. I hope to hell that you have the balls to post up a day 1, or will you go an dip for another week/ month/ year/ 10yrs. Some never make it back at all. I hope you do
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There is no difference between you and a heroin addict except your choice of drug. except your choice of drug.
A-Fucking-Men SM. What kind of 'friend' would drag you back into the pits of hell like that? With friends like those, who needs enemas?
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WOW, what an introduction. Skoal Monster pretty well summed it up. This place isn't a playground dude, we r pretty serious here.
Also....you better check your sign in name. You picked a solid one...better live up to it or ask Chewie to change it.
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Is this the first time you quit? When you "just one" cave, it actually isn't that hard to not dip again, thinking about it rationally. The small problem is your brain realizes this, and kicks rational out the window. You will have an increase of cravings. They are going to focus on your last dip and your brain will just say "hey you had just one the other night and it wasn't that bad". Just stay focused on why you quit. And realize that the greatest majority of what we get out of our addiction, when you are full blown using. Dip, cures the headaches that we get if we don't dip... that's it. It's like a neighbor asking for $5-10 daily to not punch you in the face. Would you pay for that? Do not romanticize dipping in your mind... period.
Stay strong.
Also you need to plan ahead for these instances. You know your friend dips, you were on day 8. Did you really think that you could just hang out with someone that dips? Your brain is a sneaky bitch, it convinced you to go there knowing you would cave. realize that your addicted brain is playing chess, you my friend are playing checkers.
That said, feel however will help you stay quit. You know yourself best. If feeling guilty will lead to success, then great feel guilty. If forgetting about it, and pretending like this is just day 1. Do that. Learn from this cave, and prepare yourself for the future.
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here is what LOOT heard:
blah blah blah it was my buddies fault. waaa waa waaa my pussy hurt all week.
you need to get your shit together or you'll never actually quit. 3 fuckin posts to your name and one is a cave post? pretty fuckin pathetic huh?
SM is right...go see a doc if you need to. No shame in it. There is shame in not taking advantage of the tools at your disposal.
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People, places and things...........get rid of those that make your quit harder. Your "friend" is an asshole no doubt but Loot is spot on, you put yourself in the situation in the first place. You didn't tell him to fuck off and get the hell out. You grabbed the pouch and shoved it in your lip. People, places and things.
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early on in LOOTs quit a friend and neighbor was always fuckin with LOOT by offering Cope. One day we were riding down the road in his truck. He'd just stopped for a fresh tin. He asked if LOOT wanted one...LOOT said "Sure" and proceeded to toss the can out the window.
problem solved.
Point is...we all have decisions to make. You gotta make the right ones. All day...everyday. Pretty simple eh?
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All,
For those who have seen my initial post, I regret to inform you that I caved tonight. A good firend of mine who uses dipping pouches talked me into having one tonight. So the 8 days of hell that I just went through is about to start back up tomorrow.
I am sorry that I have to give this bad news to all of you, and I am truly embarassed in front of such a strong group of people that have put this crap down for good no matter what the circumstance.
It was a tough week for me, no matter what I said or did, in my own mind I just couldn't get the right outcome. I keep thinking that I left people that I work with doubts in the person I really am. I am not a person that can not learn from mistakes. I am not a person that can not take criticism when I know it is the best thing for me. I've been there in my life, I always feel like I have something to prove to someone, but really the only person that I have to prove something to is myself.
I am down now, but when I wake tomorrow it will be a new day and I will use it to defeat these deadly toxins.
I thank you for your support and day one starts again today.
God bless.
Guy
seriously? What are you, fucking five. "My friend talked me into it." HORSESHIT.
And what the fuck is this doing in the introduction section. Is that appropriate? It's obvious you have been involved on the site _
You caved and that makes you a jackass. Guess how much your word of honor means right now.
Start digging out of that big ole hole your in. Oh, and if your not serious, well don't bother.
Your on a short fucking leash.
Balls in your court.
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I'm really smart and I have a rapist's wit, but that fuckin' looT stole all of my material.
Resolve, you need to get involved with the June 2010 quit group by posting roll daily. Get active on the boards and you might just come to realize how fucking ridiculous your post sounds. I love you and I will be holding you at night. I will be your knight in shining armor.
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I'm really smart and I have a rapist's wit, but that fuckin' looT stole all of my material.
Resolve, you need to get involved with the June 2010 quit group by posting roll daily. Get active on the boards and you might just come to realize how fucking ridiculous your post sounds. I love you and I will be holding you at night. I will be your knight in shining armor.
You scare me
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I'm a newbie too, 18 days down no turnin' back. I would like to offer this, one of the vets told me to keep a journal, that way I could go back and read how "SHITTY" I felt. I for one do not want to go through that again.
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I'm a newbie too, 18 days down no turnin' back. I would like to offer this, one of the vets told me to keep a journal, that way I could go back and read how "SHITTY" I felt. I for one do not want to go through that again.
King,
Get your shit together and get serious or come back when you are.
MCLFC
Always remember how bad it sucked... it will help you stay quit.
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I'm really smart and I have a rapist's wit, but that fuckin' looT stole all of my material.
Resolve, you need to get involved with the June 2010 quit group by posting roll daily. Get active on the boards and you might just come to realize how fucking ridiculous your post sounds. I love you and I will be holding you at night. I will be your knight in shining armor.
You scare me
Agreed Ready !!
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All,
For those who have seen my initial post, I regret to inform you that I caved tonight. A good firend of mine who uses dipping pouches talked me into having one tonight. So the 8 days of hell that I just went through is about to start back up tomorrow.
I am sorry that I have to give this bad news to all of you, and I am truly embarassed in front of such a strong group of people that have put this crap down for good no matter what the circumstance.
It was a tough week for me, no matter what I said or did, in my own mind I just couldn't get the right outcome. I keep thinking that I left people that I work with doubts in the person I really am. I am not a person that can not learn from mistakes. I am not a person that can not take criticism when I know it is the best thing for me. I've been there in my life, I always feel like I have something to prove to someone, but really the only person that I have to prove something to is myself.
I am down now, but when I wake tomorrow it will be a new day and I will use it to defeat these deadly toxins.
I thank you for your support and day one starts again today.
God bless.
Guy
Why did you make that choice? Your friend did not talk you into this; you made a choice.
Do you realize what you're playing with here? This shit is more addictive than heroin I am told. It causes a whole host of problems, and it permanently rewires your mind. Having just one starts the whole cycle over again - be it day 8, day 80, or day 800. You just pissed away eight hard earned days.
Grand. Just grand. Get motivated, get mad, get the hell away from your "friend", and get with the program.
The process here is real simple, and I think it is fail safe.
1. Make a promise for today not to dip and post it in rollcall.
2. Find some people in the June group and get their numbers. Make a commitment to talk to someone live before "someone else talks you into just one."
3. Make a plan, or a set of consequences that will occur if you really cave.
Basically, make it impossible for you to cave by putting your integrity online and being accountable to someone.
Reading shit like this does not make it any easier on us who are fighting like hell to stay quit, day by day or minute by minute. That's why you're getting a hostile reaction because you "friend talked you into a dip". This place is dead serious about quitting and accountability. Do or do not - there is no try.
Are you with us? If you are, toss your can, go to the June quit group, and post day one in rollcall, and read everything you can on this site to figure out how to successfully quit AND use the FREE tools available to you.
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last activity was the 13th
guess this quittin thing isn't for everyone
whatever KOR...what the fuck ever