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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: chrshell on September 30, 2015, 07:42:00 AM
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I "like" to dip. I "enjoy" the process. I know I need to stop but I haven't found a valid reason to do so. My wife and kids want me to stop. My parents want me to quit. But I still enjoy the thrill of the dip/spit. Any suggestions? Respectfully, NoQuitter.
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Ever tried an alternative like Hooch or Jake's? I found hooch to work in my favor the first couple weeks when I just wanted a dip to have a dip. Still keep it around just in case I " think" I need one. You want to be around for your family for a long time? That should be a good enough reason to quit. Be strong. You can do it.
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Until you want to stop for yourself, it won't happen. I suggest looking into the cancer stories featured on KTC. If your cholesterol or blood pressure are high, nicotine could be causing it. Checked your gums lately?
There are plenty of logical reasons to stop chew just for yourself. The problem is you "enjoy" the addiction. There was a time when I enjoyed a dip as well. That ended and eventually I found KTC. Until you equate that dip spit with death and slavery instead of thrill, you may stop but you won't quit.
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Until you want to stop for yourself, it won't happen. I suggest looking into the cancer stories featured on KTC. If your cholesterol or blood pressure are high, nicotine could be causing it. Checked your gums lately?
There are plenty of logical reasons to stop chew just for yourself. The problem is you "enjoy" the addiction. There was a time when I enjoyed a dip as well. That ended and eventually I found KTC. Until you equate that dip spit with death and slavery instead of thrill, you may stop but you won't quit.
At the end of the day Chrshell, some people just want to kill themselves and some people don't. My dad put a bullet in his brain when I was 12. Now, I miss him and wish he was around for those milestones in my life.
He wasn't there to watch me climb as an all-state soccer player.
He wasn't there for my high school graduation.
He wasn't there to help pull me out of drug addiction and alcohol abuse.
He wasn't there when I was the first in my family to get a Bachelor's
He wasn't there for my first professional job and other professional milestones.
He wasn't there when I when I went on to get my Master's.
He wasn't there for my engagement.
He wasn't there for my wedding.
He won't be there for my first child, my second, my third, etc...
He just won't be there.
But I will be there because I want to be there. I want this. I want to be there for all these moments.
So... I'm not going to kill myself anymore. I quit... today... I quit. When I'm done quitting today, I will quit tomorrow, but I'll worry about that when it comes.
If that isn't a good enough reason for you to quit... kill yourself, I guess. Chip away at yourself with every dip. Pack that tin, pinch a bullet out of it, and stick it in your mouth.
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Until you want to stop for yourself, it won't happen. I suggest looking into the cancer stories featured on KTC. If your cholesterol or blood pressure are high, nicotine could be causing it. Checked your gums lately?
There are plenty of logical reasons to stop chew just for yourself. The problem is you "enjoy" the addiction. There was a time when I enjoyed a dip as well. That ended and eventually I found KTC. Until you equate that dip spit with death and slavery instead of thrill, you may stop but you won't quit.
At the end of the day Chrshell, some people just want to kill themselves and some people don't. My dad put a bullet in his brain when I was 12. Now, I miss him and wish he was around for those milestones in my life.
He wasn't there to watch me climb as an all-state soccer player.
He wasn't there for my high school graduation.
He wasn't there to help pull me out of drug addiction and alcohol abuse.
He wasn't there when I was the first in my family to get a Bachelor's
He wasn't there for my first professional job and other professional milestones.
He wasn't there when I when I went on to get my Master's.
He wasn't there for my engagement.
He wasn't there for my wedding.
He won't be there for my first child, my second, my third, etc...
He just won't be there.
But I will be there because I want to be there. I want this. I want to be there for all these moments.
So... I'm not going to kill myself anymore. I quit... today... I quit. When I'm done quitting today, I will quit tomorrow, but I'll worry about that when it comes.
If that isn't a good enough reason for you to quit... kill yourself, I guess. Chip away at yourself with every dip. Pack that tin, pinch a bullet out of it, and stick it in your mouth.
Wow.
Dude this sent a chill down my spine. You are the real deal. Your dad would be proud of you.
Nicotine took my dad away from me at the age of 17 but I was a slave for 25 years. Never again. Life is sweet.
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I stopped dipping, 30-40 times for my wife and kids, and usually made it 3 days (with a patch no less). Sometimes I'd make it a week, once I made it 6 weeks. Then I'd get mad at them for whatever reason, and would start dipping again because I didn't care.
A year ago I grew weary of this addiction, and came here to get my ass kicked with the truth - which is you'll never quit without it being for yourself.
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I doubt the energy that's going to go into this thread will be worth it...
He won't be back.
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I "like" to dip. I "enjoy" the process. I know I need to stop but I haven't found a valid reason to do so. My wife and kids want me to stop. My parents want me to quit. But I still enjoy the thrill of the dip/spit. Any suggestions? Respectfully, NoQuitter.
If you don't care why should we?
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Well dude at 48 your kids will move on soon your parents will be dead, I do see your point "you don't have a valid reason to stop". Likely you will continue doing what you "like" and "enjoy". I'm not writing this for you but for those that might read it that are considering a quit. Addiction is a extreme expression of selfishness. A true addict can't see just how selfish their actions are. I'm 10 years older than this addict and understand being a selfish ass, that was me for 40 years. I just found out last night that I'm gonna be a grandpa again and I'm glad I am thinking about the future relationships with family now rather than my next dip. Yea that "dip and spit" is definitely a cool thing to look forward to. 'drool' 'drool' 'drool'
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I'm still here. And I'm certain there are others out there just like me. Yes, these posts help. I said tomorrow would be the day but I'm now convinced that Today is the day. Thank you and keep the replies coming. Keep me honest. Keep me true to my family.
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I'm still here. And I'm certain there are others out there just like me. Yes, these posts help. I said tomorrow would be the day but I'm now convinced that Today is the day. Thank you and keep the replies coming. Keep me honest. Keep me true to my family.
Toss the bullets out. Make peace with God (if you believe in Him) and ask for strength. Post roll in here today, vowing to stay clear of Nic for 24 hours. Come back in 24 and so he same.
Or stay getting pimped and let Nic wear that ass out.
Bow wow or bow down (to Nic)
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One thing that kind of put it perspective for me was this:
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... o-give-up/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/)
I hate the fact that I am, was dependent on nicotine. Dependent on something that was killing me and not benefiting me. If I didn't have it I would be moody, irritable, etc.
If those statements apply to you in the contract, well... 'flush'
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I'm still here. And I'm certain there are others out there just like me. Yes, these posts help. I said tomorrow would be the day but I'm now convinced that Today is the day. Thank you and keep the replies coming. Keep me honest. Keep me true to my family.
Are you committed to this? If this is about what your family wants, you will fail.
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I'm still here. And I'm certain there are others out there just like me. Yes, these posts help. I said tomorrow would be the day but I'm now convinced that Today is the day. Thank you and keep the replies coming. Keep me honest. Keep me true to my family.
Are you committed to this? If this is about what your family wants, you will fail.
IF you want to quit...which is still unknown, it will be a lot easier if you buy into the system here. That means posting roll with your class everyday. You wont believe how much easier it is to quit with the support of others here. Post Roll if you're serious.
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Here's a reason: Outdoor Texan (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
Truth is, we can't list enough reasons for you to quit. Either grab your sac and do this or don't, but don't walk into a quitting forum and tell everybody why you love dipping. Also check your post about "you're certain you're not the only one that thinks this." How many guys responded to that post supporting that comment? We're resolute. That crap is nasty and often lethal. You're just brainwashed by all the poison coursing through your veins right now.
Ball's in your court. Quit or don't.
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Man, you've got some introspection to do, because I'll tell ya what, you've been spouting full-blown addict babble. If you're just here because the wife's been riding your ass to quit, it ain't gonna work out for you. Why? Because you'll only end up building up resentment for her because "she's the reason" you're feeling withdrawal symptoms, and you'll start sneaking dips (if you haven't been doing this already). Can't quit for your kids, either. Why? Because you'll try to rationalize your dipping by telling yourself "Oh what do they know, they're just kids. They don't even understand what dip is." Can't quit for mom and dad. Why? Because you'll tell yourself "I'm my own person now, they don't run my life anymore." My point is, until you quit for you, you'll always find a reason to go back to it.
When you quit for yourself, your inner dialogue changes. You'll still try to rationalize your dipping, yes, but you'll also know that you chose to quit for yourself and it's a decision you made for your own well being as a man. You can hide from your wife and kids and sneak a dip in, but you can't hide from yourself. That's why you have to quit for you.
If you're waiting for a reason to stop, it may be too late. What, are you waiting for it to start causing you problems first? If so, it's often too late by that point. If you have even a hint of ability to learn through the suffering of others, go take a look at the cancer gallery and read the cancer stories like Nomore said. And as you do, realize that these aren't just people with bad genes (I used to tell myself that all the time). These aren't people who got just plum got unlucky. These are regular people like you and I who told themselves "Oh, I'll quit one day," didn't, and are either severely disfigured now or more likely, no longer with us.
And after all that, if you still love what you see, I have no choice but to write you off as being batshit insane. Flush your cans down the toilet and quit, man. We'll help you stay quit, but you've got to want it yourself.
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Tell me what post rolling is. I'm new to this...
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Alright! Getting some links for you. One moment, please!
Janurary 2016 Quit Group (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11341759/25/) This is your quit group: January 2016. January '16 because that's the month your 100th day of quit will fall on.
Step by step instructions on how to post roll on several different devices (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)
Video instructions on how to post roll from a computer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmDgTPJ6HyM)
The Welcome Center - a good starting point. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
If you find it to be tricky or don't quite nail it the first few times, don't worry about it. It's easily fixed and someone else can take care of it. As they say, the only reason to mess roll up is to not be on it.
Other Links:
What to expect when you quit dipping. (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/what-to-expect-when-you-quit-dipping/) It can be helpful to know what you're feeling is normal.
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My question is, why the hell are you here? You love dipping, it's not hurting you, so why would you quit? What you're saying is I'm a selfish asshole who can't see through my addict eyes that I'm on a road to some serious problems but right now this shit is delicious , and if something happens to me all those people that love me can now take me back and forth to the doctor and possibly feed me and if I have a lip left shove the thing I love most in this world in, I love dipping, or I'm an addict and until I understand and admit this I will continue on until it's possibly to late. I hope you choose to quit but if not maybe you will be one of the lucky ones to at least make it to 60! Until you hate dip you will have a very difficult time quitting with or without our help! Goodluck!
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My question is, why the hell are you here? You love dipping, it's not hurting you, so why would you quit? What you're saying is I'm a selfish asshole who can't see through my addict eyes that I'm on a road to some serious problems but right now this shit is delicious , and if something happens to me all those people that love me can now take me back and forth to the doctor and possibly feed me and if I have a lip left shove the thing I love most in this world in, I love dipping, or I'm an addict and until I understand and admit this I will continue on until it's possibly to late. I hope you choose to quit but if not maybe you will be one of the lucky ones to at least make it to 60! Until you hate dip you will have a very difficult time quitting with or without our help! Goodluck!
Like.
+ I want KTC to do all the work for me.
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I "like" to dip. I "enjoy" the process. I know I need to stop but I haven't found a valid reason to do so. My wife and kids want me to stop. My parents want me to quit. But I still enjoy the thrill of the dip/spit. Any suggestions? Respectfully, NoQuitter.
I was right there with you. Enjoyed the heck out of dipping and honestly, nobody was telling me to quit.
You want a valid reason to stop? You can read the cancer stories, but odds are you won't get cancer. Save a little money every month, but you've already worked out the money to support your habit. Stinky breath doesn't mean much because you've already got a wife. Receding gum line isn't much of a reason to stop something you enjoy, is it? Showing your kids it's okay to put poison in your mouth isn't a real problem because you can punish them later if they try.
Truth is, nobody can give you a valid reason. It's something you have to work out for yourself.
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I "like" to dip. I "enjoy" the process. I know I need to stop but I haven't found a valid reason to do so. My wife and kids want me to stop. My parents want me to quit. But I still enjoy the thrill of the dip/spit. Any suggestions? Respectfully, NoQuitter.
I was right there with you. Enjoyed the heck out of dipping and honestly, nobody was telling me to quit.
You want a valid reason to stop? You can read the cancer stories, but odds are you won't get cancer. Save a little money every month, but you've already worked out the money to support your habit. Stinky breath doesn't mean much because you've already got a wife. Receding gum line isn't much of a reason to stop something you enjoy, is it? Showing your kids it's okay to put poison in your mouth isn't a real problem because you can punish them later if they try.
Truth is, nobody can give you a valid reason. It's something you have to work out for yourself.
That's a hell of a thing to say.
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I "like" to dip. I "enjoy" the process. I know I need to stop but I haven't found a valid reason to do so. My wife and kids want me to stop. My parents want me to quit. But I still enjoy the thrill of the dip/spit. Any suggestions? Respectfully, NoQuitter.
I was right there with you. Enjoyed the heck out of dipping and honestly, nobody was telling me to quit.
You want a valid reason to stop? You can read the cancer stories, but odds are you won't get cancer. Save a little money every month, but you've already worked out the money to support your habit. Stinky breath doesn't mean much because you've already got a wife. Receding gum line isn't much of a reason to stop something you enjoy, is it? Showing your kids it's okay to put poison in your mouth isn't a real problem because you can punish them later if they try.
Truth is, nobody can give you a valid reason. It's something you have to work out for yourself.
That's a hell of a thing to say.
Dude...read up on the site. the cancer stories, Intro's, HOF speaches...etc We all know what you are thinking and going through. If you weren't thinking aboiut it, you wouldn't have visited KTC. When your ready to do it for yourself, come back and you'll be welcomed with all the support possible to help you stay quit. It will be the best decision of your Life and the 1st day of you new life.. You will control you, not the nic bitch!!!
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Blah, blah, blah - until you show up on a roll call here chrshell you are just another wannabe quitter. I've only been here four weeks and I've already seen a lot of those wannabe guys. It's time to grow a pair and do this if you are really serious.
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Chrshell,
Listen dude, everybody here probably loved putting in a chew and singing along with Chris LaDeaux but the fact that you're here on Quit site tells me you want to throw that bitch in the trash and get on with your life. So when the guy in the mirror decides to do so, we will all still be here. If you need help, get on here and asked questions. Prepare to quit. No one is going to hold a gun to your head and make you. Man up and make a decision. Good Luck to brother!
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Chrshell,
I understand where you are at. I was in that same mindset for 15 years. After years of dipping and spitting it feels so normal. I know some on here will disagree or argue this point but I like the taste of Copenhagen Straight.
The day after I lost a friend from cancer from chewing I realized it was not for me. I was scared to death. I tried quitting 18 months earlier for my girlfriend and it was a disaster. Almost lost my girlfriend and my job. I had tried quitting on my own. My girlfriend didn't understand at that time what I was going through and didn't know how to help. I fond this site and realized this is what I was missing. A support network of fellow quitters that had been in those dark and lonely first days of withdrawal.
Quitting is a wild and scary ride. You don't have to do it alone. As you can tell people here want to help you quit. I found out about Smokey Mountain Herbal Snuff on this site. Their straight snuff tastes just like Copenhagen and is nic free and helps me get through tough cravings.
Make the decision to Quit. Post roll and make the promise to yourself and this brotherhood that you will not use nicotine. This is the cost of the best group of quitters who will help you when you can make the choice of Quit.
I quit today. Will you quit with me?