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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: KDLforever on May 28, 2014, 04:15:00 PM
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I had been dipping for about 22 years. Never smoked, didn't drink much, but one of my best friends offered it up(cherry skoal) i reluctantly tried it and started spinning maybe 30secs later. I bought my first can the next day. Not sure why i liked it but i did and was hooked. I started with Cherry Skoal and transitioned to Kodiak at some point and then back to skoal. Even chewed the LG Leaf for while. I played baseball into college and never dipped until after baseball ironically enough. Once i started playing tourney slowpitch the addiction really kicked in. if you weren't dipping you were in the minority. Stopped playing slowpitch after about 10 years and concentrated my efforts on golf which definitely didn't help the addiction. I travel a descent amount for work which gives me idle time to dip. doesn't matter if i am on a 13 hour flight or 1 hr flight, id have a can. If i was flying to EURO for a long trip (1 week) id make sure i had 2 -3 cans with me. It was just stupid, its embarrassing to write it. I have 2 amazing daughters and an absolute angel of a wife who loves me unconditionally. She has wanted me to quit for a long time for really no other reason than to make sure i am around for my daughters and her for a very long time. For some reason the addiction was stronger than that and i am ashamed to admit it its true. I lost my dad about 1 1/2 years ago to cancer and for some reason that didnt kick me in the a$$ enough to quit. We lost him to cancer in about 2 weeks. He found out, we talked thanksgiving day and said we needed to fly to florida to see him and to bring the girls because it was going to happen fast. My dad wasnt the healthiest man but when i arrived in florida he was up and walking around like the last time i saw him about 1 year. 1 week later he was gone. The cancer just ate him up in the matter of a week. Im sure it was in him for a while but from what we saw it it killed him in a week. I was mad, sad, all good reasons to dip regardless of what my family just went through. My girls are in HS now and although they are a pain in my butt some times i love them more than anything in this world and i realized it was finally time for me to show that. I also want to show my wife she means more to me than some stupid can of cancer. I want to quit, i dont want to end up like my dad and put my kids and wife through that because of my pour choices. I have been such a hypocrite for the longest time because i would always tell my girls and my wife, when they were going somewhere, "be good, be responsible, make good decisions, I love you" and then 2 mins later i was doing the complete opposite and stuffing that crap in my mouth. My oldest daughter just received her 1st car the other day and will have her license in about 3 weeks. My younger daughter is only about 1 year behind her. I want to be there for them when they need me and when i need them to need me. Same goes for my wife. Im stronger than i have shown the past 20+ years when it comes to this stupid addiction and its time i started acting like. I will need all of your help. I tried on my own and couldn't do it.
I visited this site a few years ago and everything i read inspired me to quit, so i did, cold turkey. I never signed up or posted roll and i was good, really good for little more than a year. Then for some stupid reason i cant even remember, although i know was leaving an Angel game (Anaheim, CA), i had the crazy urge to dip so i decide i could have 1 or even the whole can and not even flinch about quitting again. Well that was at least 3-4 years ago and i am proud to say i am now 2 days quit.
I will not have nicotine today.
Thank you, KTC
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Very sorry to hear about your loss. You made the right choice to come here. This is truly an amazing place. This is not going to be an easy journey. Sometimes it's going to seem impossible. But it is doable. We've all been through all the shit you'll experience. Use the resources. Lean on other quitters. Be strong. You can do this!
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Very sorry to hear about your loss. You made the right choice to come here. This is truly an amazing place. This is not going to be an easy journey. Sometimes it's going to seem impossible. But it is doable. We've all been through all the shit you'll experience. Use the resources. Lean on other quitters. Be strong. You can do this!
Got to agree here, the best decision you could make for yourself is joining here to get the poison out of your life.
I won't be easy, but it can be done. Like you I used for 23 years, started after HS when I stopped playing baseball. Have 2 teenage sons now. Coach baseball for 12 year olds with 3 other coaches that still use. Am also Boy Scout leader so felt so pathetic saying that oath and the word clean to where that, my health, the money, and just life told me to quit almost 2 years ago and here I still am.
read all that you can as the information gives you power to help.
Hang on as it will be a wild ride, 3 days to clean your system and then the mind roller coaster. Drink water, exercise, flush your body, keep busy, do anything you can to keep the poison out of your body.
You can do this. And a tip is Accountability (daily promise) + Brotherhood (make a friend) = Success (quit).
yell if you need
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Double post. Blech.
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Best. Introduction. Ever.
Welcome, I quit with you today, tomorrow and the next day.
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Full commitment to this program will make you successful. Anything less than "all-in" will put you at risk for failure.
I quit with you today.
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I had been dipping for about 22 years. Never smoked, didn't drink much, but one of my best friends offered it up(cherry skoal) i reluctantly tried it and started spinning maybe 30secs later. I bought my first can the next day. Not sure why i liked it but i did and was hooked. I started with Cherry Skoal and transitioned to Kodiak at some point and then back to skoal. Even chewed the LG Leaf for while. I played baseball into college and never dipped until after baseball ironically enough. Once i started playing tourney slowpitch the addiction really kicked in. if you weren't dipping you were in the minority. Stopped playing slowpitch after about 10 years and concentrated my efforts on golf which definitely didn't help the addiction. I travel a descent amount for work which gives me idle time to dip. doesn't matter if i am on a 13 hour flight or 1 hr flight, id have a can. If i was flying to EURO for a long trip (1 week) id make sure i had 2 -3 cans with me. It was just stupid, its embarrassing to write it. I have 2 amazing daughters and an absolute angel of a wife who loves me unconditionally. She has wanted me to quit for a long time for really no other reason than to make sure i am around for my daughters and her for a very long time. For some reason the addiction was stronger than that and i am ashamed to admit it its true. I lost my dad about 1 1/2 years ago to cancer and for some reason that didnt kick me in the a$$ enough to quit. We lost him to cancer in about 2 weeks. He found out, we talked thanksgiving day and said we needed to fly to florida to see him and to bring the girls because it was going to happen fast. My dad wasnt the healthiest man but when i arrived in florida he was up and walking around like the last time i saw him about 1 year. 1 week later he was gone. The cancer just ate him up in the matter of a week. Im sure it was in him for a while but from what we saw it it killed him in a week. I was mad, sad, all good reasons to dip regardless of what my family just went through. My girls are in HS now and although they are a pain in my butt some times i love them more than anything in this world and i realized it was finally time for me to show that. I also want to show my wife she means more to me than some stupid can of cancer. I want to quit, i dont want to end up like my dad and put my kids and wife through that because of my pour choices. I have been such a hypocrite for the longest time because i would always tell my girls and my wife, when they were going somewhere, "be good, be responsible, make good decisions, I love you" and then 2 mins later i was doing the complete opposite and stuffing that crap in my mouth. My oldest daughter just received her 1st car the other day and will have her license in about 3 weeks. My younger daughter is only about 1 year behind her. I want to be there for them when they need me and when i need them to need me. Same goes for my wife. Im stronger than i have shown the past 20+ years when it comes to this stupid addiction and its time i started acting like. I will need all of your help. I tried on my own and couldn't do it.
I visited this site a few years ago and everything i read inspired me to quit, so i did, cold turkey. I never signed up or posted roll and i was good, really good for little more than a year. Then for some stupid reason i cant even remember, although i know was leaving an Angel game (Anaheim, CA), i had the crazy urge to dip so i decide i could have 1 or even the whole can and not even flinch about quitting again. Well that was at least 3-4 years ago and i am proud to say i am now 2 days quit.
I will not have nicotine today.
Thank you, KTC
Welcome Mr. KDLforever to the only place to really "be quit" ODAAT.
You dipped 22 years...can you let it go? Do you still think about spinning? Do you understand that you are and always will be an Nicotine "addict"?
You're not here by accident...you my friend need to not drink, but GULP the KTC koolaid and learn to really hate the poison and everything that it is and has done to your dad.
Until you can truly "not want" to put nic in your mouth any more than you would drink Liquid Drano, you'll have a stoppage instead of "being quit". Noone knows which dip of poison will kill.
The tools and brotherhood here cannot be bought with money, but can with your choice/decision daily.
One day at a time. Honesty with yourself and your quit group brothers/sisters.
Post roll - you're promise
Keep your word - all damn day
Wake and Repeat
You're not alone.
40,000 quitters can't be wrong.
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You have some hard hitters already hitting this thread and giving you great advice. Only thing I can add is get numbers from people its not ghey or weird these are tools you will need to beat the shit out of the nic bitch. Invest huge amounts of time in the beginning learning everything you can about your enemy this will be your foundation...and you know what they say about a foundation strong structure....PM me if you need a number
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Listen to these guys^^^. Read everything on KTC and learn how we quit. Then live it, the KTC way of quit works. PM me if you need a #.
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Nice intro. You will like it here if you like success built on routine and involvement. You seem eager to succeed and I believe you will if you approach it with a daily commitment. Nice job talking loot up on his offer. I'm going to enjoy watching his involvement in your Sept group.
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This guy's been texting me with questions a lot today. Proves that he's invested. Quit is strong with this one.
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From a guy who also has a couple young kids (4 and 5), looking forward to putting the NIC behind us for good. Let me know if I can help with anything and thanks for sharing your story.
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That was a great intro. Very thoughtful and sincere. Congrats on making the decision to quit. I can't add much to what these other guys told you, other than to emphasize the importance of making that promise every day by posting roll. It's the foundation of what we do here. If you need anything or want to swap numbers, shoot me a PM.
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thank you all for the replies, its flattering to read posts from total strangers who seem to really care and what to help. PM's sent.
NNT!
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I was going to say that you've got good taste in balls.....but it just doesn't sound right....
So, from 1 pro-v x user to another, congrats on day 2; feel free to come post with us in March '14 for some extra accountability too let me know if you ever need anything!
Jeff
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I was going to say that you've got good taste in balls.....but it just doesn't sound right....
So, from 1 pro-v x user to another, congrats on day 2; feel free to come post with us in March '14 for some extra accountability too let me know if you ever need anything!
Jeff
You both love those fancy high class balls. I prefer the yellow Nitro Blaster balls! :P
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I was going to say that you've got good taste in balls.....but it just doesn't sound right....
So, from 1 pro-v x user to another, congrats on day 2; feel free to come post with us in March '14 for some extra accountability too let me know if you ever need anything!
Jeff
You both love those fancy high class balls. I prefer the yellow Nitro Blaster balls! :P
I let others pay retail for them and i pay about 1/3 the $$ by buying recycled/used balls in mint condition. Huge business actually. I played 18 yesterday and a guy was in the proshop and asked for a sleeve of PROV1 and when the guy said they were $15 a sleeve he said oh just give me the box. $60 for 12 balls. Retail at Dicks or other sporting goods is maybe $45. Same for used clubs. Big business here in SoCal. I let others test drive them, trade them in and i Pay a fraction for very close to new.
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Great work on your quit so far KDL. Let us know how you're feeling now. Sleep? Craves? Tools to quit? Mood?
Quit strong!
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Quit has been good. Im proud to say im 14 days quit and going string. no looking back.
This past Friday, I played in my buddies annual golf tournament fundraiser. He, a few of our friends who were there and I had our first dip 20+ years ago. I went prepared with Smokey MT knowing Skoal and Kodiak would be around me all day. I made it known 1st thing I was done and I had my fake stuff to help me get through the day and they were respectful of my quit. However, im sue they were thinking, here we go again, he is quitting again. Well, so be it, cant blame them. I know im done for sure, 100%. Anyway, one of the wife's was there helping out at the tournament and hung out with us the last few holes and saw i was "dippin" with the boys (she assumed it was the skoal/kodi). The next day, after a long afternoon/night of drinking after the tournament, I was ready to talk with my wife about the quit. I started to talk to her and she said, "I know, you dipped yesterday". You see, we had a blow up a couple months ago because she thought I had quit over a year ago and and rightfully so since I told here i had whenever she asked me. Anyway, my friends wife didn't rat me out, she just didn't know i had been hiding the dip all of those year and especially the last few months so she had casually mentioned it when she and my wife were talking. So i explained to my wife it was the Smokey Mt i had with me at the golf tournament and that i had quit 12 days ago. She initially was upset that it had only been 12 days but then quickly congratulated me on being 12 days clean. I explained to her KTC and posting roll and all of the names and numbers i had now and showed her at lest a dozen texts i had on my phone just from that morning from all of the 9/14 crew and some of the vets (Oconnordan, evil_won, sporticus, antisaint, loot, golfpro9696, ribfulton1, spitstickler, derv88, cmark, grizzlyhasclaws, knockout, treg44, zquitter) who had been texting all morning. She was excited. I explained the Smokey Mt and mentioned there was one issue i had to deal with, she blurted, "i dont care of its $50 a can", i laughed and i said no, its just not convenient to get, only Walmart. She laughed and said she didnt care. She will buy for me and i said we can buy online. Later that day, i showed her the KTC site while i was checking and posting. She read through the spousal section. She gets it. She is amazing and is an angel for putting up with me and my addiction for so many years. She is one part of the KDL acronym, the other 2 are my daughters.
Sleep is better, craves not so much but random triggers make me think about it because the habit of dippin after i eat or am working in the yard or playing golf or drinking. I dont necessarily crave it, just think about or maybe thats the crave. the key is not having any around, i cant dip if i dont have any. I consciously make the choice to not go buy any. When igo buy Smokey Mt, i see the racks of cans and have no desire to buy the real stuff. Im to the point now it grosses me out. When i smelt the Kodiak/Skoal at the golf tournament it almost mad me gag.
Thank you to the 9/14 quit crew and the vets like sporticus and loot, you guys are great. Thank you to those i have PM'd with over the past 2 weeks.
KDLforever - 14; NNT!
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Quit has been good. Im proud to say im 14 days quit and going string. no looking back.
This past Friday, I played in my buddies annual golf tournament fundraiser. He, a few of our friends who were there and I had our first dip 20+ years ago. I went prepared with Smokey MT knowing Skoal and Kodiak would be around me all day. I made it known 1st thing I was done and I had my fake stuff to help me get through the day and they were respectful of my quit. However, im sue they were thinking, here we go again, he is quitting again. Well, so be it, cant blame them. I know im done for sure, 100%. Anyway, one of the wife's was there helping out at the tournament and hung out with us the last few holes and saw i was "dippin" with the boys (she assumed it was the skoal/kodi). The next day, after a long afternoon/night of drinking after the tournament, I was ready to talk with my wife about the quit. I started to talk to her and she said, "I know, you dipped yesterday". You see, we had a blow up a couple months ago because she thought I had quit over a year ago and and rightfully so since I told here i had whenever she asked me. Anyway, my friends wife didn't rat me out, she just didn't know i had been hiding the dip all of those year and especially the last few months so she had casually mentioned it when she and my wife were talking. So i explained to my wife it was the Smokey Mt i had with me at the golf tournament and that i had quit 12 days ago. She initially was upset that it had only been 12 days but then quickly congratulated me on being 12 days clean. I explained to her KTC and posting roll and all of the names and numbers i had now and showed her at lest a dozen texts i had on my phone just from that morning from all of the 9/14 crew and some of the vets (Oconnordan, evil_won, sporticus, antisaint, loot, golfpro9696, ribfulton1, spitstickler, derv88, cmark, grizzlyhasclaws, knockout, treg44, zquitter) who had been texting all morning. She was excited. I explained the Smokey Mt and mentioned there was one issue i had to deal with, she blurted, "i dont care of its $50 a can", i laughed and i said no, its just not convenient to get, only Walmart. She laughed and said she didnt care. She will buy for me and i said we can buy online. Later that day, i showed her the KTC site while i was checking and posting. She read through the spousal section. She gets it. She is amazing and is an angel for putting up with me and my addiction for so many years. She is one part of the KDL acronym, the other 2 are my daughters.
Sleep is better, craves not so much but random triggers make me think about it because the habit of dippin after i eat or am working in the yard or playing golf or drinking. I dont necessarily crave it, just think about or maybe thats the crave. the key is not having any around, i cant dip if i dont have any. I consciously make the choice to not go buy any. When igo buy Smokey Mt, i see the racks of cans and have no desire to buy the real stuff. Im to the point now it grosses me out. When i smelt the Kodiak/Skoal at the golf tournament it almost mad me gag.
Thank you to the 9/14 quit crew and the vets like sporticus and loot, you guys are great. Thank you to those i have PM'd with over the past 2 weeks.
KDLforever - 14; NNT!
You got a good woman there! Mine is too and she has been my main cheerleader. We all need that encouragement and you have the most important person on your side!
Good job staying clean golfing. That's a big hurdle you got over! Congrats!
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Quit has been good. Im proud to say im 14 days quit and going string. no looking back.
This past Friday, I played in my buddies annual golf tournament fundraiser. He, a few of our friends who were there and I had our first dip 20+ years ago. I went prepared with Smokey MT knowing Skoal and Kodiak would be around me all day. I made it known 1st thing I was done and I had my fake stuff to help me get through the day and they were respectful of my quit. However, im sue they were thinking, here we go again, he is quitting again. Well, so be it, cant blame them. I know im done for sure, 100%. Anyway, one of the wife's was there helping out at the tournament and hung out with us the last few holes and saw i was "dippin" with the boys (she assumed it was the skoal/kodi). The next day, after a long afternoon/night of drinking after the tournament, I was ready to talk with my wife about the quit. I started to talk to her and she said, "I know, you dipped yesterday". You see, we had a blow up a couple months ago because she thought I had quit over a year ago and and rightfully so since I told here i had whenever she asked me. Anyway, my friends wife didn't rat me out, she just didn't know i had been hiding the dip all of those year and especially the last few months so she had casually mentioned it when she and my wife were talking. So i explained to my wife it was the Smokey Mt i had with me at the golf tournament and that i had quit 12 days ago. She initially was upset that it had only been 12 days but then quickly congratulated me on being 12 days clean. I explained to her KTC and posting roll and all of the names and numbers i had now and showed her at lest a dozen texts i had on my phone just from that morning from all of the 9/14 crew and some of the vets (Oconnordan, evil_won, sporticus, antisaint, loot, golfpro9696, ribfulton1, spitstickler, derv88, cmark, grizzlyhasclaws, knockout, treg44, zquitter) who had been texting all morning. She was excited. I explained the Smokey Mt and mentioned there was one issue i had to deal with, she blurted, "i dont care of its $50 a can", i laughed and i said no, its just not convenient to get, only Walmart. She laughed and said she didnt care. She will buy for me and i said we can buy online. Later that day, i showed her the KTC site while i was checking and posting. She read through the spousal section. She gets it. She is amazing and is an angel for putting up with me and my addiction for so many years. She is one part of the KDL acronym, the other 2 are my daughters.
Sleep is better, craves not so much but random triggers make me think about it because the habit of dippin after i eat or am working in the yard or playing golf or drinking. I dont necessarily crave it, just think about or maybe thats the crave. the key is not having any around, i cant dip if i dont have any. I consciously make the choice to not go buy any. When igo buy Smokey Mt, i see the racks of cans and have no desire to buy the real stuff. Im to the point now it grosses me out. When i smelt the Kodiak/Skoal at the golf tournament it almost mad me gag.
Thank you to the 9/14 quit crew and the vets like sporticus and loot, you guys are great. Thank you to those i have PM'd with over the past 2 weeks.
KDLforever - 14; NNT!
Proud of you KDL and proud to call you a Sultan. This is an inspiring story and shows that as long as your mindset is where it's supposed to be, you can WILL continue to be successful in this battle. Awesome work, QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
No need to read between the lines here ... very well said! Proud of your quit, as well as what you wrote here, it makes a brother think ... which is good. I'll quit with you EDD, thanks for making my quit stronger this AM!
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
No need to read between the lines here ... very well said! Proud of your quit, as well as what you wrote here, it makes a brother think ... which is good. I'll quit with you EDD, thanks for making my quit stronger this AM!
Good ramble brother! I found myself following the harsh example and being a dick early on in my time here, but realized the truth you just stated, and have tried to keep my messages positive on KTC. Don't waste time with the drama unless it helps you stay quit.
You are winning KDL! I QLF with you all day.
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
No need to read between the lines here ... very well said! Proud of your quit, as well as what you wrote here, it makes a brother think ... which is good. I'll quit with you EDD, thanks for making my quit stronger this AM!
Good ramble brother! I found myself following the harsh example and being a dick early on in my time here, but realized the truth you just stated, and have tried to keep my messages positive on KTC. Don't waste time with the drama unless it helps you stay quit.
You are winning KDL! I QLF with you all day.
Very well said, KDL!
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
No need to read between the lines here ... very well said! Proud of your quit, as well as what you wrote here, it makes a brother think ... which is good. I'll quit with you EDD, thanks for making my quit stronger this AM!
Good ramble brother! I found myself following the harsh example and being a dick early on in my time here, but realized the truth you just stated, and have tried to keep my messages positive on KTC. Don't waste time with the drama unless it helps you stay quit.
You are winning KDL! I QLF with you all day.
Very well said, KDL!
KDL-
I'm probably....no I AM one of the folks you mentioned in your day 51 post....and I make no apology for it.
But that's not why I'm writing on your intro page. I'm writing to express my sincere congratulations for you having hit triple digits (the HOF) in your quest to be free from nicotine for the rest of your natural born days. You have been a solid quitter leading the rest of the Sultan pack and for that I am truly appreciative. My hat is off to you, golfpro. Quit on!
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Day 51, wow, on one hand seems like yesterday and and other seems like day 365. Im quit today like i was day 1. The novelty and adrenaline of the initial quit wore off a couple of weeks in and then the quit dreams hit and the boring quit introduced more thoughts of quitting but the thought if really caving never came up. Levels of caving are relative i suppose depending on the individual, for me, id think about having 1 for about 5 seconds and the thought of facing my wife who i convinced, again, i was quit and the virtual KTC friends i had been texting with since day 1 (Oconnordan) was all i needed for the thought to very quickly go away. I dont feel i was ever really in danger of caving but thoughts of dippin were in my head for sure, i wont lie. In my 51 days i have read some serious BS on this site including backstabbing founders/moderators and dumbasses who really think blasting people on the forum for missing role is going to help. Maybe it does, i dont think it would for me but then again i wont ever know because i posted roll today and am quit and i plan on posting tomorrow. The quit works differently for everyone i think. We all have very similar stories with some twists but the basic story is very similar. Some use the site, some need the site, some abuse the site and some use it for entertainment. Some feel they need to be a dick in order to keep others quit and i think they need to do that to help themselves stay quit. Some are going to bail because getting blasted isnt going to work for them. hopefully they learned enough while they were here to stay quit and if not oh well. Blasting them more, publicly or privately, isn't going to change that for most, maybe for some. if it works than that person was weak to begin with and they probably wont stay quit anyway. Most of us know very quickly if this. whatever this is, is going to work. Most of us also know pretty quickly who are the KTC forum addicts and need it to survive and stay quit which i applaud on one hand because I believe whatever takes to stay quit is fair game. I cringe though sometimes because it sounds like some are being pushed away and not given the chance to let KTC work its magic. I determined really quick who are here to truly help anyway possible and want to connect and be chatty from time to on PM or text to help with the quit and i applaud that too. Some will post roll and will never interact with anyone and that works too if it keeps you quit. No one truly knows if someone is 100% quit or caved unless you are with them 24/7 so we live by the honor system here KTC. I applaud those who have caved and been honest about with their virtual friends.
My point after all of that rambling is this. do whatever it takes to stay quit and take it seriously. for me, KTC works and i thank those that started it and keep it going. I think anyone should use KTC however they feel fit to stay quit. Stay quit today is the goal, whatever it takes. Who knows if any of that makes sense and i am not going back to proof read it to make sure it does.
You may have to read between the lines and through the spelling and grammar mistakes to get anything out of it but oh well. You get the point.
NNT! Be good, be responsible and make good decisions.
No need to read between the lines here ... very well said! Proud of your quit, as well as what you wrote here, it makes a brother think ... which is good. I'll quit with you EDD, thanks for making my quit stronger this AM!
Good ramble brother! I found myself following the harsh example and being a dick early on in my time here, but realized the truth you just stated, and have tried to keep my messages positive on KTC. Don't waste time with the drama unless it helps you stay quit.
You are winning KDL! I QLF with you all day.
Very well said, KDL!
KDL-
I'm probably....no I AM one of the folks you mentioned in your day 51 post....and I make no apology for it.
But that's not why I'm writing on your intro page. I'm writing to express my sincere congratulations for you having hit triple digits (the HOF) in your quest to be free from nicotine for the rest of your natural born days. You have been a solid quitter leading the rest of the Sultan pack and for that I am truly appreciative. My hat is off to you, golfpro. Quit on!
KDL - Congrats on the HOF. 100 days is a considerable achievement for those of us that had poison stuffed in our lips 101 days ago. Keep posting roll and stick with the system. It works.
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Congrats on the HOF KDL. Enjoy the day, but make sure to collect yourself and get back in here for another +1 tomorrow.