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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: muthra on February 09, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
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wow... very negative ... no welcome, no hello... .didn't expect that... took a lot to make my first post... ... i don't think this group is for me....i'll try somewhere else for support. thanks anyway
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Hi. I've been trying to quit for a few months now. I've made it 3 days, 4 days, and once for 3 years. I did it for 17 years and then quit for three. I just took one and it all came back. I've been at it again for 14 months. Now I can't function well without it. Well, tomorrow, I am going to give it my best effort again. Wish me luck.
Jon
No sir... won't wish you luck. Luck has nothing to do with a successful quit.
You CAN do this but stop thinking of it as "your best effort". That implies that you're "trying" something. You're not trying... you're doing.
Welcome.
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Hi. I've been trying to quit for a few months now. I've made it 3 days, 4 days, and once for 3 years. I did it for 17 years and then quit for three. I just took one and it all came back. I've been at it again for 14 months. Now I can't function well without it. Well, tomorrow, I am going to give it my best effort again. Wish me luck.
Jon
No sir... won't wish you luck. Luck has nothing to do with a successful quit.
You CAN do this but stop thinking of it as "your best effort". That implies that you're "trying" something. You're not trying... you're doing.
Welcome.
No luck from me, either. You have got to want this quit and know that it's the ONLY decision that's right. When you are ready to accept that fact, you will be ready to embrace the suck. Then you will be on your way to a life-long quit.
Plus, very little will change between now and tomorrow (besides the LARGE fact that you are putting cancer-causing poison in your body). Throw the crap out NOW, post up day 1 and start the quit. There are hundreds of people on this site ready to help you.
Just take that first step.
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Can you tell me why it will be easier or better for you to quit tomorrow??? If not, it's that time. Take the shit out of your mouth and throw away your stash. Sign roll call giving your word of honor that you will not use nicotine in any way shape or form for today. Rinse and repeat tomorrow.
Welcome. You have found the best place to quit and stay that way. All of the tools and support required can be found here. You can do this. We will help.
If today is day - 1, Your quit group is May 2010... here ....
index.php?showtopic=2997 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2997)
Here are some links you may find helpful...
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A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS
index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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What to Expect when you quit.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
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Contract to give up...
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Smokeless alternatives
http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.
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Why quit tomorrow? I had two cans of snuff bought when I quit. I made the comittment and then I threw those 2 cans and all my spit cups away. There is no try, only do.
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wow... very negative ... no welcome, no hello... .didn't expect that... took a lot to make my first post... ... i don't think this group is for me....i'll try somewhere else for support. thanks anyway
Muthra, I fail to see the negative here. You want to quit or not?
If it helps. Hello! Good to see you here! Now lets get this quit started.
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I'm actually more stressed by reading the posts, which isn't going to help. This is a big thing for me as you all know, so I don't need more stress right now. I'm already dealing with 30 inches of snow for that.
I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice. I'm having a little harder time of it right now. I have to get my mind set. It's easier to start tomorrow because its a new day. That probably sounds like bull to most of you but its not to me. Plus I have 8 hours going for me when i start. I need little props to do it, like a notebook i will keep at work to read a few times a day with all the bad things it does, etc.
I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me.
I'd just like to check in every day and report. I thought that might be a little prop for me. Its not so easy to just do it. You all have been out of it for a while. I remember that ... when I had quit before, thinking how easy it is to quit... why didn't I just do it right away..... Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me. I'll read the other articles again to get motivated. I'll give it another chance, but so far its not what i had hoped for.
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I'm actually more stressed by reading the posts, which isn't going to help. This is a big thing for me as you all know, so I don't need more stress right now. I'm already dealing with 30 inches of snow for that.
I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice. I'm having a little harder time of it right now. I have to get my mind set. It's easier to start tomorrow because its a new day. That probably sounds like bull to most of you but its not to me. Plus I have 8 hours going for me when i start. I need little props to do it, like a notebook i will keep at work to read a few times a day with all the bad things it does, etc.
I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me.
I'd just like to check in every day and report. I thought that might be a little prop for me. Its not so easy to just do it. You all have been out of it for a while. I remember that ... when I had quit before, thinking how easy it is to quit... why didn't I just do it right away..... Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me. I'll read the other articles again to get motivated. I'll give it another chance, but so far its not what i had hoped for.
Why do you need to quit something you've already quit before. That seems a little redundant? I'm really confused. Seriously, what are you starting tomorrow? You're not going to quit quitting, are you? That would be a shame. Trust me, it's not worth it. Oh wait, you've quit twice before. Sorry, I missed that. So, you're actually going to quit quitting on quitting meaning you are going to quit. Now I get it. Well, you've got my support 100% unless I'm confused, in which case I think you're just making excuses for being such a huge vagina. If I'm confused, I think you should just quit planning your quit because you're obviously not ready and you should quit talking about how you've got it all figured out because your head is 100% up your ass.
Shit, now I'm more confused than ever. Where am I?
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Did you just call me a vagina? For trying to get some support? Thanks alot. Unbelievable. I was just reading your mission statement ... I suggest you read it again.....
We are here to provide a forum where your questions will get answered, where your fears will be dispelled, and your anxiety will be dissipated. We will offer any help that we can. We will help YOU quit the way you need to quit.
We realize that there are a variety of ways to be successful quitting chew. We will NOT tell you that one way is better than another, but we will tell you our experience and what has worked for us.
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Did you just call me a vagina? For trying to get some support? Thanks alot. Unbelievable. I was just reading your mission statement ... I suggest you read it again.....
We are here to provide a forum where your questions will get answered, where your fears will be dispelled, and your anxiety will be dissipated. We will offer any help that we can. We will help YOU quit the way you need to quit.
We realize that there are a variety of ways to be successful quitting chew. We will NOT tell you that one way is better than another, but we will tell you our experience and what has worked for us.
So....wait, you're not planning to quit quitting on quitting?
What does quitting have to do with vaginas? What do vaginas have to do with the mission statement? My God man, what are you talking about? I'm here for support. Take your mumbo-jumbo next door.
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I'll try this one last time and then i'm really giving up on this site. Their has to be some supportive people here, I can see it in other threads..... I'm hanging around because i really want to quit and i do need some support.
I chewed for 17 years. once during that i time quit for 9 months but foolishly started again.
I quit again on Jan 1 2005. I made it untl dec 20ish of last year when again I foolishly tried one hit, and then it had me again. THis time, when I quit I will NEVER take even one again. NEVER. I made that mistake twice and learned the lesson. Hope that clears it up.
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I'll try this one last time and then i'm really giving up on this site. Their has to be some supportive people here, I can see it in other threads..... I'm hanging around because i really want to quit and i do need some support.
I chewed for 17 years. once during that i time quit for 9 months but foolishly started again.Â
I quit again on Jan 1 2005. I made it untl dec 20ish of last year when again I foolishly tried one hit, and then it had me again. THis time, when I quit I will NEVER take even one again. NEVER. I made that mistake twice and learned the lesson. Hope that clears it up.
Look man, it doesn't take long for folks to figure out around here that you will get support. But that support goes hand in hand with some success.
Day 1, your having an incredibly shitty day, didn't sleep at all, the nicotene fit is raming a red hot poker inbetween your ears and your ready to jump off of bridge to end the pain...in THAT place you will find support. And that's the support that you have seen.
But before you start, all we see is...
Day 0, I really really want to try, I really really want to quit, I really really mean it this time, I really really can't wait for tomorrow so I can start.
There's only so many polite ways to say grow a sack and throw out the dip RIGHT NOW. Tomorrow will not be easier than today. You say you need support, all I see is people telling you to start your quit now. THAT'S NOT SUPPORT? Most of the guys around here have big blingy balls of quit dangling between there legs. They've went through the pain, and no amount of typing the WE do is going to take the pain away from YOU.
You gotta learn to live with the suck until the suck gives up and goes away. This site will help you with the suck, not take it away. Throw your last can out right now.
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I get that. Sorry i posted today. Still no reason for the name calling and all that, no matter what.
I won't post anymore. Sorry to have bothered all of you succesful people.
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I'm actually more stressed by reading the posts, which isn't going to help. This is a big thing for me as you all know, so I don't need more stress right now. I'm already dealing with 30 inches of snow for that.
I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice. I'm having a little harder time of it right now. I have to get my mind set. It's easier to start tomorrow because its a new day. That probably sounds like bull to most of you but its not to me. Plus I have 8 hours going for me when i start. I need little props to do it, like a notebook i will keep at work to read a few times a day with all the bad things it does, etc.
I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me.
I'd just like to check in every day and report. I thought that might be a little prop for me. Its not so easy to just do it. You all have been out of it for a while. I remember that ... when I had quit before, thinking how easy it is to quit... why didn't I just do it right away..... Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me. I'll read the other articles again to get motivated. I'll give it another chance, but so far its not what i had hoped for.
Hi Murtha, Glad to have you here :P
I guess you can say this site is full of hard core quitters. Let me start by saying that I am not one of those that "have been out of it for a while". I am on day 14 of my quit, but I know, without question, that I am quit today, and I'll be quit tomorrow, and there is nothing that will make me put that shit back in my body. More on this in a bit:
What you will find out about this site is that it works BECAUSE of the hard love shown you so far and because of the wisdom that people are trying to share with you.
A successful quit is different than a temporary stoppage. We have all stopped in the past, most of us many times. So what is different now? What about the approach of this site makes quits out of stops? This is what I've learned so far:
1. There is no such thing as a passive quit. You are either quit or you are just fooling around. It is a black and white situation, no shades of gray. Do or do not, there is no try. That starts with eliminating all passive speech (text). Don't talk of luck, don't talk of trying, don't talk of hoping, just BE quit, period.
2. No bull zone. Caving to temptation starts out with very subtle deceptions that build until you can justify giving in. This is your mind playing tricks on you. We often don't even realize it is happening until someone else calls us on it. This group of people, while seemingly harsh, will call you on the bull and save you from yourself, and possibly save your life.
3. Knowlege is power. By knowing what is happening to you and what is yet to come, you can be better prepared to deal with things. Yes, there are physical withdrawal problems that come in stages over months. The people here have been through all the stages and have documented them for us, and they are here to help us through them all. The harder part is the mental dependency we have and dealing with that absolutely requires a firm hand, and sometimes a foot. Don't run from it, embrace it (thank you sir, may I have another).
4. Your Beliefs Matter. You have to not think you can quit, you have to know you will. How can you know you will quit? By realizing that you are no different than so many other people on this site because you have read all their stories and see yourself in those stories, and because you are no different than them, if they can be quit, you will be quit too. You also have to believe, not just think, but believe to your core that tobaco makes anything and everything worse, not better, no matter what your nic-drugged mind tries to tell you. As a fellow addict, you and I can no longer trust our judgement, feelings, intuition or logic when it comes to nicotine. You have to accept, based on all the overwhelming evidence found in this site and it's resource links, that it is bad for ALL situations, no matter what.
So, back to me, how do I know, without a doubt, that this quit will be different from all the other stoppages I had over the past 30 years of nicotine addiction? 1 - each day I will give my word to people (not a notebook) that I AM quit today and they will hold me accountable and bust my ass if I break my word. 2 - If I start showing any signs of slipping in my resolve by using passive wording, or setting up situations that will make it easier to cave, someone here will point it out and stop me before I go too far. 3 - I won't be caught by surprise this time. When I tried to quit before, I would get only so far (once 4 months) and cave because I was depressed and convinced myself that if I'm going to feel that bad when not dipping, I might as well enjoy a dip too. I didn't realize that the depression was just another phase of the quit process. Now I have better knowlege thanks to this site and the people here. 4 - I know for a fact it is possible because I see so many people here every day that are quit and I be damned if I am going to allow myself to be any less of a man than these fine role models. I also know for a fact, thanks to all the research resources provide by this site, that tobaco is much worse for me than having no tobaco with all else being equal.
Well that's a lot of words I just spit out all to say that this site works, will work for you if you let it, and to encourage you to stick around with me and the rest of the May quit group. Just accept the assistance from those who have gone before us, in all it's forms, and we will be quit together today.
Mark
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1. Go pour what dip you have left into the toilet, and flush it.
2. Clean up time - sweep your house, vehicle, garage, workshop, office, etc....for spitters, old cans, anything related to nicotine, and put it in the trash.
3. Post a Day 1 in the May 2010 quit group TONIGHT, not tomorrow.
4. Post roll EVERY DAY. Keep that promise EVERY DAY.
5. Just stay quit for one day, today. Worry about tomorrow when it comes.
6. Congrats on making a very smart decision. You will find all of the support you need....but you need to spit that shit out right now.
No try here, you will do. If you want to. How bad do you want it?
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I'm actually more stressed by reading the posts, which isn't going to help. This is a big thing for me as you all know, so I don't need more stress right now. I'm already dealing with 30 inches of snow for that.Â
I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice. I'm having a little harder time of it right now. I have to get my mind set. It's easier to start tomorrow because its a new day. That probably sounds like bull to most of you but its not to me. Plus I have 8 hours going for me when i start. I need little props to do it, like a notebook i will keep at work to read a few times a day with all the bad things it does, etc.
I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me.Â
I'd just like to check in every day and report. I thought that might be a little prop for me. Its not so easy to just do it. You all have been out of it for a while. I remember that ... when I had quit before, thinking how easy it is to quit... why didn't I just do it right away..... Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me. I'll read the other articles again to get motivated. I'll give it another chance, but so far its not what i had hoped for.
Hi Murtha, Glad to have you here :P
I guess you can say this site is full of hard core quitters. Let me start by saying that I am not one of those that "have been out of it for a while". I am on day 14 of my quit, but I know, without question, that I am quit today, and I'll be quit tomorrow, and there is nothing that will make me put that shit back in my body. More on this in a bit:
What you will find out about this site is that it works BECAUSE of the hard love shown you so far and because of the wisdom that people are trying to share with you.
A successful quit is different than a temporary stoppage. We have all stopped in the past, most of us many times. So what is different now? What about the approach of this site makes quits out of stops? This is what I've learned so far:
1. There is no such thing as a passive quit. You are either quit or you are just fooling around. It is a black and white situation, no shades of gray. Do or do not, there is no try. That starts with eliminating all passive speech (text). Don't talk of luck, don't talk of trying, don't talk of hoping, just BE quit, period.
2. No bull zone. Caving to temptation starts out with very subtle deceptions that build until you can justify giving in. This is your mind playing tricks on you. We often don't even realize it is happening until someone else calls us on it. This group of people, while seemingly harsh, will call you on the bull and save you from yourself, and possibly save your life.
3. Knowlege is power. By knowing what is happening to you and what is yet to come, you can be better prepared to deal with things. Yes, there are physical withdrawal problems that come in stages over months. The people here have been through all the stages and have documented them for us, and they are here to help us through them all. The harder part is the mental dependency we have and dealing with that absolutely requires a firm hand, and sometimes a foot. Don't run from it, embrace it (thank you sir, may I have another).
4. Your Beliefs Matter. You have to not think you can quit, you have to know you will. How can you know you will quit? By realizing that you are no different than so many other people on this site because you have read all their stories and see yourself in those stories, and because you are no different than them, if they can be quit, you will be quit too. You also have to believe, not just think, but believe to your core that tobaco makes anything and everything worse, not better, no matter what your nic-drugged mind tries to tell you. As a fellow addict, you and I can no longer trust our judgement, feelings, intuition or logic when it comes to nicotine. You have to accept, based on all the overwhelming evidence found in this site and it's resource links, that it is bad for ALL situations, no matter what.
So, back to me, how do I know, without a doubt, that this quit will be different from all the other stoppages I had over the past 30 years of nicotine addiction? 1 - each day I will give my word to people (not a notebook) that I AM quit today and they will hold me accountable and bust my ass if I break my word. 2 - If I start showing any signs of slipping in my resolve by using passive wording, or setting up situations that will make it easier to cave, someone here will point it out and stop me before I go too far. 3 - I won't be caught by surprise this time. When I tried to quit before, I would get only so far (once 4 months) and cave because I was depressed and convinced myself that if I'm going to feel that bad when not dipping, I might as well enjoy a dip too. I didn't realize that the depression was just another phase of the quit process. Now I have better knowlege thanks to this site and the people here. 4 - I know for a fact it is possible because I see so many people here every day that are quit and I be damned if I am going to allow myself to be any less of a man than these fine role models. I also know for a fact, thanks to all the research resources provide by this site, that tobaco is much worse for me than having no tobaco with all else being equal.
Well that's a lot of words I just spit out all to say that this site works, will work for you if you let it, and to encourage you to stick around with me and the rest of the May quit group. Just accept the assistance from those who have gone before us, in all it's forms, and we will be quit together today.
Mark
MSHowell gets it.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Brings a damn tear to me eye. Well said Mark, well said.
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Sorry for the rough welcome, Muthra. It's just that we are all addicts here. We know the lies, the stories, the "outs" we create in order to put nicotine in our body. And we see those things in what you wrote.
Your message is not new. It has been posted by many who have failed their quits. That's why we are all over you - we hear in your post you want to be quit but you want to gently wade into it. You have tried that before. And you won't be successful this time using that plan.
We subscribe to the "dive in head first, kicking and screaming" method. Why? Because it really works. We want you to understand that we know what you are feeling, we know this is hard and we know it's not easy to put the lipshit behind you. HOWEVER...
We have done it. We know how this site works and makes quits stronger. And we know you can do it.
Now you just need to go all in with your quit.
p.s. - I count nine people who took time today to try to get you to quit. That's pretty strong support and indication of what you can expect here at KTC if you ask me.
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I'm actually more stressed by reading the posts, which isn't going to help. This is a big thing for me as you all know, so I don't need more stress right now.  I'm already dealing with 30 inches of snow for that.Â
I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice. I'm having a little harder time of it right now. I have to get my mind set. It's easier to start tomorrow because its a new day. That probably sounds like bull to most of you but its not to me. Plus I have 8 hours going for me when i start. I need little props to do it, like a notebook i will keep at work to read a few times a day with all the bad things it does, etc.
I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me.Â
I'd just like to check in every day and report. I thought that might be a little prop for me. Its not so easy to just do it. You all have been out of it for a while. I remember that ... when I had quit before, thinking how easy it is to quit... why didn't I just do it right away..... Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me. I'll read the other articles again to get motivated. I'll give it another chance, but so far its not what i had hoped for.
Hi Murtha, Glad to have you here :P
I guess you can say this site is full of hard core quitters. Let me start by saying that I am not one of those that "have been out of it for a while". I am on day 14 of my quit, but I know, without question, that I am quit today, and I'll be quit tomorrow, and there is nothing that will make me put that shit back in my body. More on this in a bit:
What you will find out about this site is that it works BECAUSE of the hard love shown you so far and because of the wisdom that people are trying to share with you.
A successful quit is different than a temporary stoppage. We have all stopped in the past, most of us many times. So what is different now? What about the approach of this site makes quits out of stops? This is what I've learned so far:
1. There is no such thing as a passive quit. You are either quit or you are just fooling around. It is a black and white situation, no shades of gray. Do or do not, there is no try. That starts with eliminating all passive speech (text). Don't talk of luck, don't talk of trying, don't talk of hoping, just BE quit, period.
2. No bull zone. Caving to temptation starts out with very subtle deceptions that build until you can justify giving in. This is your mind playing tricks on you. We often don't even realize it is happening until someone else calls us on it. This group of people, while seemingly harsh, will call you on the bull and save you from yourself, and possibly save your life.
3. Knowlege is power. By knowing what is happening to you and what is yet to come, you can be better prepared to deal with things. Yes, there are physical withdrawal problems that come in stages over months. The people here have been through all the stages and have documented them for us, and they are here to help us through them all. The harder part is the mental dependency we have and dealing with that absolutely requires a firm hand, and sometimes a foot. Don't run from it, embrace it (thank you sir, may I have another).
4. Your Beliefs Matter. You have to not think you can quit, you have to know you will. How can you know you will quit? By realizing that you are no different than so many other people on this site because you have read all their stories and see yourself in those stories, and because you are no different than them, if they can be quit, you will be quit too. You also have to believe, not just think, but believe to your core that tobaco makes anything and everything worse, not better, no matter what your nic-drugged mind tries to tell you. As a fellow addict, you and I can no longer trust our judgement, feelings, intuition or logic when it comes to nicotine. You have to accept, based on all the overwhelming evidence found in this site and it's resource links, that it is bad for ALL situations, no matter what.
So, back to me, how do I know, without a doubt, that this quit will be different from all the other stoppages I had over the past 30 years of nicotine addiction? 1 - each day I will give my word to people (not a notebook) that I AM quit today and they will hold me accountable and bust my ass if I break my word. 2 - If I start showing any signs of slipping in my resolve by using passive wording, or setting up situations that will make it easier to cave, someone here will point it out and stop me before I go too far. 3 - I won't be caught by surprise this time. When I tried to quit before, I would get only so far (once 4 months) and cave because I was depressed and convinced myself that if I'm going to feel that bad when not dipping, I might as well enjoy a dip too. I didn't realize that the depression was just another phase of the quit process. Now I have better knowlege thanks to this site and the people here. 4 - I know for a fact it is possible because I see so many people here every day that are quit and I be damned if I am going to allow myself to be any less of a man than these fine role models. I also know for a fact, thanks to all the research resources provide by this site, that tobaco is much worse for me than having no tobaco with all else being equal.
Well that's a lot of words I just spit out all to say that this site works, will work for you if you let it, and to encourage you to stick around with me and the rest of the May quit group. Just accept the assistance from those who have gone before us, in all it's forms, and we will be quit together today.
Mark
MSHowell gets it.
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Brings a damn tear to me eye. Well said Mark, well said.
This is fucking brilliant Howell. I couldn't have said it better myself so I won't bother trying.
A couple of things that I will point out. Forgive me if I'm being too "hardcore" for you.
You're coming across like you've got it all figured out. You're telling us that you don't need to hear what we're saying cause it's stressing you out. Sorry bro... that's the way we roll round these parts.
You said, "I know what it takes to quit, I've done it twice." I beg to differ... you don't know how to "quit". You know how to try and fail. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If you want to know how to "quit" we're here to help.
"I really don't want all the people jumping on me and nagging me. If that is what this is about then that won't work for me." - That's what this is about... sorry dude. It's about doing what needs to be done and helping others.
"I'd just like to check in every day and report." - That's all we ask.
"Those who have quit for a while need to remember just how hard it is. So please... drop the nagging and support me." - If you remember how hard it is then why did you start again? If you remember how hard it is why are you in the situation where you are? I remember every single day how hard it is... that's why I'm quit.
You asked us to drop the nagging. I'm asking you to drop the attitude.
Get r done my friend... no bullshit.
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Jeezus...quit or don't quit... just make a goddam decision.
If you want to quit... quit. It's really that simple.
If you want to, you will. If you don't want to, you'll come up with every excuse in the book to start putting that toxic crap into your body again.
Your call. But a word of caution... if you really are a senstive soul (and I mean truly offended easily)... this might not be for you. You might not be able to handle it.
We are hard on each other, we hold each other accountable to our word, we kick each other in the ass if that's needed. We do these things because we all care about the other dudes in here... we want 100% success at kicking a very difficult addiction to beat.
oh... and we do it because it WORKS... IF (and it's a big IF) you WANT it to work.
Saddle up... ride with us and go post day 1.
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission... :-) Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission... :-) Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Excellent. Glad to have you on board.
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission... :-) Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Excellent. Glad to have you on board.
'worship'
Good call Muthra, such a little decision can have a monumental impact on your life. Perhaps even save it. Get angry, it'll help. Your hooked on a substance that will kill you when you use it properly. Its' manufacturers purposely make it as addictive as possible in order to force you to become a lifelong customer. The fact that they will more than likely ruin your life and kill you in the process is irrelevant to them. They just want your cash . I'd rather be mugged, at least the mugger is honest about his intentions. If my sorry ass can do it so can you.
I'll be watching 'archer'
Skoal Monster 380 and counting
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission...  :-)  Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Excellent. Glad to have you on board.
'worship'
Good call Muthra, such a little decision can have a monumental impact on your life. Perhaps even save it. Get angry, it'll help. Your hooked on a substance that will kill you when you use it properly. Its' manufacturers purposely make it as addictive as possible in order to force you to become a lifelong customer. The fact that they will more than likely ruin your life and kill you in the process is irrelevant to them. They just want your cash . I'd rather be mugged, at least the mugger is honest about his intentions. If my sorry ass can do it so can you.
I'll be watching 'archer'
Skoal Monster 380 and counting
I've seen Godzirra versus Muthra. No contest. Rodan -v - Muthra, Cope -v- Muthra, Kodiak -v- Muthra. Same, same. Muthra rope-a-doped Grizzly. Red Seal - never saw it comin.'
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well brothas, today was my first full day on the site. I posted roll first thing in the morning and checked in all day to express some feelings and read more of the things you all have shared. I have to say I started to doubt this site was the thing for me with all the "tough love" going on. I talked to my wife and she told me to man up. Huh, damn, my own wife told me to grow a pair. I'm all for a good bar fight and found myself backing down to some tough love. That must be the nic talking. so I'm here to say I'm in and need the accountability. I'm grateful you are all here and so many have been where I am now. Today was day 21 and quite frankly the craves are as bad now as they were at day 3. So i'll keep reading and posting and dipping the fake stuff and get through this withdrawl. Again, thank you all for being here!!!
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission...  :-)  Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Excellent. Glad to have you on board.
'worship'
Good call Muthra, such a little decision can have a monumental impact on your life. Perhaps even save it. Get angry, it'll help. Your hooked on a substance that will kill you when you use it properly. Its' manufacturers purposely make it as addictive as possible in order to force you to become a lifelong customer. The fact that they will more than likely ruin your life and kill you in the process is irrelevant to them. They just want your cash . I'd rather be mugged, at least the mugger is honest about his intentions. If my sorry ass can do it so can you.
I'll be watching 'archer'
Skoal Monster 380 and counting
I've seen Godzirra versus Muthra. No contest. Rodan -v - Muthra, Cope -v- Muthra, Kodiak -v- Muthra. Same, same. Muthra rope-a-doped Grizzly. Red Seal - never saw it comin.'
Damn beautiful thing to watch this "conversation" unfold today. First I thought "dang they really hurt this guys feelings", then I thought "that guy (muthra) is a big pussy." then I realized the people here really do care and this aint their first rodeo.
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission... :-) Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Damn good to see. You can do this.
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Ok. You have beaten me into submission... :-) Its all gone as of about 3 hours ago. See you tomorrow. Sorry I've been an ass.
Damn good to see. You can do this.
Awesome job, muthra! Head to the Quit Groups section under Community, select May 2010 HOF (Hall of Fame) group, and post up there. This will be your immediate quit group where you will post up everyday with YOUR WORD that you will not put any nicotine in your body for 24 hours. It's a great place where you can vent, bitch, get to know some great people and find a ton of support.
Again, fantastic decision muthra!
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I'm on day three now... hating life, but I can really see how this works now.... had to snap me out of my denial.... appreciating you all now!!! and truly feel like an ass for my previous posts... But still hating life...
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I'm on day three now... hating life, but I can really see how this works now.... had to snap me out of my denial.... appreciating you all now!!! and truly feel like an ass for my previous posts... But still hating life...
Way to go Muthra. I read the whole thread and watched your progression through the early anger and denial to acceptance and willingness to change, and your quit is textbook so far. Most people find the first 5 days or so to be the really hard ones, the fucked up nervous system that reports all kinds of crazy shit going on with your body. It will pass.
Most people also have some fog that can last a week or two after that, where it's hard to think straight. This too shall pass.
One of the most important things we have all realized here, down to the last man and woman, is that we are all of us addicts. Not "were". We ARE nicotine addicts, and we will be forever. A really important part of staying quit forever is realizing you're an addict...forever.
And it's tough to tell sometimes, but every one of us wants you to be quit forever.
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I'm on day three now... hating life, but I can really see how this works now.... had to snap me out of my denial.... appreciating you all now!!! and truly feel like an ass for my previous posts... But still hating life...
I'm about 5 days a head of you, which won't mean much in a few months but right now it seems like a big difference. Day 3 I was a zombie, today is day 8 and I'm still walking in the fog, random headaches, cravings, and irritability. But I feel WAY better than a few days ago. If you want to exchange numbers for support let me know.
Keep charging,
sensei
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I'm on day three now... hating life, but I can really see how this works now.... had to snap me out of my denial.... appreciating you all now!!! and truly feel like an ass for my previous posts... But still hating life...
I'm about 5 days a head of you, which won't mean much in a few months but right now it seems like a big difference. Day 3 I was a zombie, today is day 8 and I'm still walking in the fog, random headaches, cravings, and irritability. But I feel WAY better than a few days ago. If you want to exchange numbers for support let me know.
Keep charging,
sensei
Go Muthra go.... 'aqua' The bitch is on your ass but like the fish says just keep swimming just keep swimming, your gonna make it bruddah.