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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: e.raines76 on January 25, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
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Hey everyone. Day 1 for me. Actually hasn't started yet. Going to the store to stock up on gum, seeds, and anything else that will help. Then it begins. Took some vacation days from work. For some reason, it's 10 times harder not to dip at work. Gonna lay on the couch and sweat it out like a heroin addict. A little background on me: Started dipping Kodiak about 20 years ago with a group of people that were just interested in the buzz it gave you. Everyone else did it for a few days and quit. Only me and my closest friend growing up continued. Long story short, that friend just had part of his gum removed and is now being tested to see if the cancer has spread anywhere else. Scared the hell out of me! His diagnosis is hopeful. They think they got it all when they cut out the gum. I actually quit for an entire year once before. But went back to it like a dumbass! I'm 34 now. Got 20 years of dipping under my belt, and don't want 21! Wish me luck!!
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Hey everyone. Day 1 for me. Actually hasn't started yet. Going to the store to stock up on gum, seeds, and anything else that will help. Then it begins. Took some vacation days from work. For some reason, it's 10 times harder not to dip at work. Gonna lay on the couch and sweat it out like a heroin addict. A little background on me: Started dipping Kodiak about 20 years ago with a group of people that were just interested in the buzz it gave you. Everyone else did it for a few days and quit. Only me and my closest friend growing up continued. Long story short, that friend just had part of his gum removed and is now being tested to see if the cancer has spread anywhere else. Scared the hell out of me! His diagnosis is hopeful. They think they got it all when they cut out the gum. I actually quit for an entire year once before. But went back to it like a dumbass! I'm 34 now. Got 20 years of dipping under my belt, and don't want 21! Wish me luck!!
Welcome to the site! It's day ten for me, and let me tell you, it'll be a tough few days/weeks ahead. But, we're all in this together and all here for each other. When you commit to quit, go post roll in your HOF Class (you'll be in May 2011). Post roll every day, hold yourself accountable, hold your brothers accountable. It's such a great feeling to be rid of that nicotine bitch!
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Hey everyone. Day 1 for me. Actually hasn't started yet. Going to the store to stock up on gum, seeds, and anything else that will help. Then it begins. Took some vacation days from work. For some reason, it's 10 times harder not to dip at work. Gonna lay on the couch and sweat it out like a heroin addict. A little background on me: Started dipping Kodiak about 20 years ago with a group of people that were just interested in the buzz it gave you. Everyone else did it for a few days and quit. Only me and my closest friend growing up continued. Long story short, that friend just had part of his gum removed and is now being tested to see if the cancer has spread anywhere else. Scared the hell out of me! His diagnosis is hopeful. They think they got it all when they cut out the gum. I actually quit for an entire year once before. But went back to it like a dumbass! I'm 34 now. Got 20 years of dipping under my belt, and don't want 21! Wish me luck!!
Welcome to the site! It's day ten for me, and let me tell you, it'll be a tough few days/weeks ahead. But, we're all in this together and all here for each other. When you commit to quit, go post roll in your HOF Class (you'll be in May 2011). Post roll every day, hold yourself accountable, hold your brothers accountable. It's such a great feeling to be rid of that nicotine bitch!
Welcome aboard. Your success will not depend on luck. It depends on you, your will, your willingness to support others and your plan. Post every single freaking day and then keep your promise to me. I will keep my promise to you.
You have chosen wisely. Welcome aboard.
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Hello, First day for me as well. Hope it lasts, because I've been down this road many times over the past 30 years.
TNice
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Thanks everyone. Best of luck to all of you.
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Hello, First day for me as well. Hope it lasts, because I've been down this road many times over the past 30 years.
TNice
Hope? If I was "hoping" to quit, I'd still be shoving that shit in my mouth. Hopin' and wishin' is easy. Quittin' is hard. I assume the thought of never having another dip is quite scary to you, right? It was (and still is) for me.
Don't think about forever. Or next year. Or next month. Or even tomorrow. Just post roll on this site and pledge not to use nicotine today. Then come back in the morning and do the same.
Welcome.
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Hello, First day for me as well. Hope it lasts, because I've been down this road many times over the past 30 years.
TNice
Hope? If I was "hoping" to quit, I'd still be shoving that shit in my mouth. Hopin' and wishin' is easy. Quittin' is hard. I assume the thought of never having another dip is quite scary to you, right? It was (and still is) for me.
Don't think about forever. Or next year. Or next month. Or even tomorrow. Just post roll on this site and pledge not to use nicotine today. Then come back in the morning and do the same.
Welcome.
Wait, there's two new guys on this thread. Welcome to you both.
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Welcome aboard.
"Hope" and "luck" and "try" will have nothing to do with your quit. Let that be the first thing you learn here. Your attitude and mindset must not be wishy-washy.
"I will". "Do". Add these words to your vocabulary. To succeed, you cannot leave room for failure. Be definitive.
Here at QSX, this attitude I speak of is referred to in various ways by the quitters. Call it what you will - big balls, intestinal fortitude, manning up, whatever. The point is, get the mindset right. Don't "try" to quit. Just quit. We aren't going to wish you luck, because we don't believe in it. Some things are just too important to be left up to luck.
You take this mindset, and add to it the tools that this place will provide you.
This will be the difference between your many failed attempts in the past, and a successful quit.
This place works because of accountability. If you are a man of your word. Go to the May 2011 quit group every day, and give them your word that you will not use nicotine that day. Then keep your word for that day. Come back and do it again the next day. Trust us, it works.
Again, welcome aboard.
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Thanks gmann. That's good advice. I quit successfully for a year before. Don't think about never having another dip. Try not to think about it at all. But, if you have to, think in terms of hours or minutes. The thought of never dipping again can seem impossible.
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Day 4 for me. And on cue, the fog is starting to lift. The headaches and light-headed out of body feeling is pretty much gone. But there is this damn voice in my head telling me to dip almost every second of the day!! Someone please tell me this doesn't last long?!
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Day 4 for me. And on cue, the fog is starting to lift. The headaches and light-headed out of body feeling is pretty much gone. But there is this damn voice in my head telling me to dip almost every second of the day!! Someone please tell me this doesn't last long?!
The voices start running out of breath after a while and get harder to hear. Stay with it.
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Day 4 for me. And on cue, the fog is starting to lift. The headaches and light-headed out of body feeling is pretty much gone. But there is this damn voice in my head telling me to dip almost every second of the day!! Someone please tell me this doesn't last long?!
The voices start running out of breath after a while and get harder to hear. Stay with it.
It takes time. The mind games may never completely go away - You Are An Addict. You will learn to defeat the mind games when they come along.
It will get better!!!!!!
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Day 4 for me. And on cue, the fog is starting to lift. The headaches and light-headed out of body feeling is pretty much gone. But there is this damn voice in my head telling me to dip almost every second of the day!! Someone please tell me this doesn't last long?!
The voices start running out of breath after a while and get harder to hear. Stay with it.
It takes time. The mind games may never completely go away - You Are An Addict. You will learn to defeat the mind games when they come along.
It will get better!!!!!!
Just get the voices to sing a different song. Easier to say than to do, but you can control what is going on in there. Instead of letting your mind tell you how bad it is, change that to what a bad ass you are for staying quit. Change the I wish I had a dip thought into I wish I could help someone else quit this shit today.
Learing to conquer the inner demon is a very real part of quitting !!
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Day 4 for me. And on cue, the fog is starting to lift. The headaches and light-headed out of body feeling is pretty much gone. But there is this damn voice in my head telling me to dip almost every second of the day!! Someone please tell me this doesn't last long?!
If you're like me there comes a change in tactics. Initially the overwhelming crave demanding to be feed and the depression and anxiety that the single most important thing in the world to me--my dip--way no more was just crushing. I felt I needed dip in the first few days but never really wanted it.
Now I'm 3 weeks in and if I'm honest with you I want dip almost at every given moment. I know I don't need it I just want it, and I resolve to telling myself no or imagining that golden ticket of a dip that I'll have 25 years from now because I ain't having it today. There may be nothing I love more than the next dip, hate the last one, hated the current one for months but that next dip is awesome. So with that in mind I resolve to be more stubborn in my quit and my life of a healthier, happier life than I am in my love for that elusive next dip.
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In my experience (and not trying to discourage you) but the mind games never really stop. They do for sure get easier and the craves will not last very long but to say they go away one day is not accurate. Sitting here 50+ days into it I still have a few triggers during the day like after lunch but I've timed how long it lasts and most of the time it's 2 min or less. Surely you can grind that out?
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They stop in time, what is a roar in your head now , turns into an annoying squeak after a while. right now you just gotta do one thing and one thing only and that is stay quit day by day, minute by minute.
Thing about the mind games are, you dont have to play. Don't fixate on dipping, you may have the urge alot in the beginning, thats normal, so what? When the crave hits take a big breath and feel it. Then remind your self your done with that toxic crap and move on. A crave can't hurt you, there is really no physical pain, they generally only last a few minutes. I can do anything for a few minutes ( just ask my wife). A crave literally will pass in a few minutes if you don't start mentally fixating on it. Can you quit for a few minutes? of course you can.
Each crave you beat you grow stronger. The time between craves grows . The triggers fade, The beginning stages are difficult because you are physically withdrawing from the most potent neurotoxin known to man. Ounce for ounce nicotine is more deadly than cobra venom. Point being you need to have some patience, it will take a while to heal the damage you have done to your body.
I PROMISE YOU IT GETS SOOOOOOOOO MUCH EASIER. I dipped 23 years and was 2 cans a day easy for the last few years. I just crossed over 2 years quit. If a cross dressing, goat wrestling , circus clown like me can quit, so can you.
Grab your balls and get tough, you got this
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The voices are always there to fuck with you. No worries though. You got us to support you. Even though they never fully go away, I didn't hear them much after day 30 or 40...just every once in a while there would be strong urges, but you can beat this.
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Hello everyone. 3rd time (and final time) quitter here. Been a slave to the can for 20 years now. Would be 21, but I did manage to quit for a year the first time i quit. I had planned on quitting on my 35th birthday(October 28), but it didn't quite happen. And on November 1st, i developed the strangest sore throat I've ever had. I immediately dumped the can i had in my pocket and haven't looked back. That night I got the strangest lump in my throat, out of nowhere. Second night, it turned into a congested throat thing(You know, where you're constantly trying to clear your throat.) And the past 3 days, it is just barely noticeably sore and congestion is gone. I hope and pray that it was just a weird throat virus or something. But it was enough that I have decided once and for all that I am done with this can!! Me and a friend started using the can in our freshman year of high school. He went on to use 2+ cans a day, and has already had surgery to remove a lesion from his cheek. I had never used more than 1 can a day, but I still knew that it was time to quit. I gave it my best effort, and quit for 4 months. Until one morning in August, I woke up for work, and noticed my wife wasn't home. She worked evenings, and usually came home around 1-2 a.m. After calling her cell and all her friends a hundred times, I filed a missing person's report on her. About 4 hours later, the sherriff's department called to tell me that my wife's car was involved in a serious accident the night before, and that she had been helicoptered to a trauma center about 2 hours away. Good news first.... my wife lived and outside of some new scars and an ankle that will never be 100%, she is ok. Bad news... my 4 months of quitting stopped that day. But no matter what happens, my quitting will not stop again. This throat thing is scaring the hell out of me. I've spent countless hours in front of the mirror staring in my mouth. And the white patches are almost gone, everything looks pink and healthy(other than some receded gums on a couple teeth). But the parts that I can't see are driving me crazy!! I've seen that alot of people recommend seeing the dentist after 30 days. But by that time I will have a stroke from the stress of not knowing!! So I'm calling to set an appointment tomorrow.
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Hello everyone. 3rd time (and final time) quitter here. Been a slave to the can for 20 years now. Would be 21, but I did manage to quit for a year the first time i quit. I had planned on quitting on my 35th birthday(October 28), but it didn't quite happen. And on November 1st, i developed the strangest sore throat I've ever had. I immediately dumped the can i had in my pocket and haven't looked back. That night I got the strangest lump in my throat, out of nowhere. Second night, it turned into a congested throat thing(You know, where you're constantly trying to clear your throat.) And the past 3 days, it is just barely noticeably sore and congestion is gone. I hope and pray that it was just a weird throat virus or something. But it was enough that I have decided once and for all that I am done with this can!! Me and a friend started using the can in our freshman year of high school. He went on to use 2+ cans a day, and has already had surgery to remove a lesion from his cheek. I had never used more than 1 can a day, but I still knew that it was time to quit. I gave it my best effort, and quit for 4 months. Until one morning in August, I woke up for work, and noticed my wife wasn't home. She worked evenings, and usually came home around 1-2 a.m. After calling her cell and all her friends a hundred times, I filed a missing person's report on her. About 4 hours later, the sherriff's department called to tell me that my wife's car was involved in a serious accident the night before, and that she had been helicoptered to a trauma center about 2 hours away. Good news first.... my wife lived and outside of some new scars and an ankle that will never be 100%, she is ok. Bad news... my 4 months of quitting stopped that day. But no matter what happens, my quitting will not stop again. This throat thing is scaring the hell out of me. I've spent countless hours in front of the mirror staring in my mouth. And the white patches are almost gone, everything looks pink and healthy(other than some receded gums on a couple teeth). But the parts that I can't see are driving me crazy!! I've seen that alot of people recommend seeing the dentist after 30 days. But by that time I will have a stroke from the stress of not knowing!! So I'm calling to set an appointment tomorrow.
Great job on the Quit man, Im proud to quit with you today!
Im on day 2. I quit for the same reasons as you, except I had a white sore spot on my gums right in front. It is now 90% gone thank god, but it scared the shit out of me too. I dumped everything down the toilet and that was it.
Yeah man, get into the dentist asap. Have them to a biopsy. I imagine people say to wait until your 30th day for several reasons, but you sound like me and your not going to wait. Go for it man!
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Hello everyone. 3rd time (and final time) quitter here. Been a slave to the can for 20 years now. Would be 21, but I did manage to quit for a year the first time i quit. I had planned on quitting on my 35th birthday(October 28), but it didn't quite happen. And on November 1st, i developed the strangest sore throat I've ever had. I immediately dumped the can i had in my pocket and haven't looked back. That night I got the strangest lump in my throat, out of nowhere. Second night, it turned into a congested throat thing(You know, where you're constantly trying to clear your throat.) And the past 3 days, it is just barely noticeably sore and congestion is gone. I hope and pray that it was just a weird throat virus or something. But it was enough that I have decided once and for all that I am done with this can!! Me and a friend started using the can in our freshman year of high school. He went on to use 2+ cans a day, and has already had surgery to remove a lesion from his cheek. I had never used more than 1 can a day, but I still knew that it was time to quit. I gave it my best effort, and quit for 4 months. Until one morning in August, I woke up for work, and noticed my wife wasn't home. She worked evenings, and usually came home around 1-2 a.m. After calling her cell and all her friends a hundred times, I filed a missing person's report on her. About 4 hours later, the sherriff's department called to tell me that my wife's car was involved in a serious accident the night before, and that she had been helicoptered to a trauma center about 2 hours away. Good news first.... my wife lived and outside of some new scars and an ankle that will never be 100%, she is ok. Bad news... my 4 months of quitting stopped that day. But no matter what happens, my quitting will not stop again. This throat thing is scaring the hell out of me. I've spent countless hours in front of the mirror staring in my mouth. And the white patches are almost gone, everything looks pink and healthy(other than some receded gums on a couple teeth). But the parts that I can't see are driving me crazy!! I've seen that alot of people recommend seeing the dentist after 30 days. But by that time I will have a stroke from the stress of not knowing!! So I'm calling to set an appointment tomorrow.
man let me set you strait on a few things. first off you dint quit afore - you were just takin a brake. seckind if 4 months was your 'best effert' man these guy will cure you a that noshun and show you what a best effert reely is. third most a the guys tell you to wait like a month cuz your mouth is gonna have some time to heel all up from what you been doin to it for 20 yeers. but man if it makes you feel better and sleep at nite you go rite in to that mr dentist. and if he gives you a cleen bill a helth dont be a dumass and run out and by some dip to sellabrate.
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Definitely won't celebrate with a dip brother. I will celebrate by living and loving life drug free. This quit hasn't even been hard. You'd be surprised how easy it is when you think you might have cancer in your throat... I don't think I could be paid to have another dip!!
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Definitely won't celebrate with a dip brother. I will celebrate by living and loving life drug free. This quit hasn't even been hard. You'd be surprised how easy it is when you think you might have cancer in your throat... I don't think I could be paid to have another dip!!
First: congratulations on a good decision. Hope the dentist visit goes well.
Second: slow down and prepare yourself for the battle to come. This excitement is great, but don't trick yourself into thinking it is permanent. Be ready for the emotion that comes when you get news from the dentist. And be prepared for the craves that hit when the new wears off of this quit. You know from the breaks you have taken in the past that life events are triggers. Have a plan ready before they happen. Build some accountability here and you'll have some folks to reach out to.
Glad to see you here.
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Thanks Radman for the advice.
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Wanted to say thanks to this entire site and everyone in it. Couldn't get a dentist appointment til January, so made an appointment with an ENT. Saw him today. Was given a clean bill of health. Don't think I could be on day 21 of my quit without this site and all the wonderful people in it. Special thanks to ODT for posting his surgery pics and also for his words of encouragement. Most people would just feel sorry for themself that it happened to them. ODT used it as a way to help others. God bless him and all of you. This site is a lifesaver!! Literally!!