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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: djhuft on August 19, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
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Well this is my introduction. I started dipping in college and have not felt like quitting until now, 20 years later. You all seem pretty hardcore quitter types. I guess this is what I need. I didn't do a bunch of planning on quitting. I lost my job (of eight years) last month. Since I have more time at home sending out my resume to everyone, I have had more time to dip. While I was a can every 3 days, I increased that up to a can a day after I lost my job. This increase has chewed up my gums pretty bad and I thought about quitting. I went on your site and everything I already new, but avoided thinking about was thrown in my face. I figured it was time; so on 8/13/14 at 8 pm, I quit. I thought the first three days was going to be hell, but it was not that bad. I used, twizzlers, hot tamales, and smokey mountain. I didn't return to this site until the 3rd night. I never threw away my Copenhagen and had every intention of dipping that 3rd night as a reward for not dipping for 3 days. Before I put the dip in, I thought about the site and logged in and read peoples thoughts for about an hour. Once I was done reading, I emptied my can in the backyard and figured I could continue for a while longer. Well now I am at 7 days and I figured if I can get this far, I should go all the way. I am committing to signing that quit post thing everyday, hopefully I don't forget. I am going to use my introduction as a public journal of my quest to quitting Copenhagen. So I'll come back to it from time to time and let everyone know how I am doing. My big fear right now is next Saturday. I have an annual fantasy football draft at a friends house on Saturday. It will be a bunch of guys and gals drinking and smoking. So I may need some help on this night. I'll let you all know how I do. I know everyone is different, but for me the first 7 days I had very few really bad moments. I always have a desire to dip, but in the first 3 days I only really had one close call and after that I have been fine since. My agitation level is a little higher, but not noticeable to others. Eating has gone up and eating poorly has really gone up. Waking up in the middle of the night has happened every night, but it has not been that big of a deal. Well this is where I am at. I'll give you all an update later this week or tomorrow.
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Well this is my introduction. I started dipping in college and have not felt like quitting until now, 20 years later. You all seem pretty hardcore quitter types. I guess this is what I need. I didn't do a bunch of planning on quitting. I lost my job (of eight years) last month. Since I have more time at home sending out my resume to everyone, I have had more time to dip. While I was a can every 3 days, I increased that up to a can a day after I lost my job. This increase has chewed up my gums pretty bad and I thought about quitting. I went on your site and everything I already new, but avoided thinking about was thrown in my face. I figured it was time; so on 8/13/14 at 8 pm, I quit. I thought the first three days was going to be hell, but it was not that bad. I used, twizzlers, hot tamales, and smokey mountain. I didn't return to this site until the 3rd night. I never threw away my Copenhagen and had every intention of dipping that 3rd night as a reward for not dipping for 3 days. Before I put the dip in, I thought about the site and logged in and read peoples thoughts for about an hour. Once I was done reading, I emptied my can in the backyard and figured I could continue for a while longer. Well now I am at 7 days and I figured if I can get this far, I should go all the way. I am committing to signing that quit post thing everyday, hopefully I don't forget. I am going to use my introduction as a public journal of my quest to quitting Copenhagen. So I'll come back to it from time to time and let everyone know how I am doing. My big fear right now is next Saturday. I have an annual fantasy football draft at a friends house on Saturday. It will be a bunch of guys and gals drinking and smoking. So I may need some help on this night. I'll let you all know how I do. I know everyone is different, but for me the first 7 days I had very few really bad moments. I always have a desire to dip, but in the first 3 days I only really had one close call and after that I have been fine since. My agitation level is a little higher, but not noticeable to others. Eating has gone up and eating poorly has really gone up. Waking up in the middle of the night has happened every night, but it has not been that big of a deal. Well this is where I am at. I'll give you all an update later this week or tomorrow.
All the best to you congrats on week 1! Your story sounds eerily similar to mine up until the job loss part thankfully, including brand amount. But even after decades of use it really is possible to quit thanks to the hard core people on this site. Post roll every day keep your promise. Sounds easy? It's easier than you think to persevere through you've ready made it through the roughest part. Everybody here is so willing to help just PM if you need numbers to text keep your phone close at hand. The first year will be filled with seasonal triggers of all types football being the first one for those if us choosing this time of year to quit. But then for a lot of guys just waking up breathing is a trigger. You got this.
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Oh as for your title, this is no attempt. This is getting it done. Work hard at it everyday posting roll making your contacts such this will be your only quit, not merely your first attempt at quitting. You'll run into guys that can't believe you got it done first try
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Sounds like you quit almost by accident. Imagine what you could do on purpose.
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Great job successfully navigating the site, posting roll, and creating an intro page. Try to get involved with your group. Get to know others to build some accountability. This is a great start. I'll see you in roll in the mornings. I'll be keeping an eye on your quit for sure.
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DJ when I quit my worry was the same as yours...What was I going to do when I got around a bunch of dippers. Truth is when that moment came it was not as hard as I thought. If you are really worried, tell everyone there you quit the moment you get there. That creates accountability. Also limit your alchohol, drinking has led to more caves than anything else, and bring lots of seeds, gum, candy, fake chew, etc. Good luck.
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dj, great start to your quit! Read everything on KTC, and then read it again. You can be quit. I was worried about being envious of people dipping, but all I feel is sadness for them, and anger at smokers for their putrid second hand poisoning of others...
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DJ - congrats on the decision not to reward yourself with a dip after 3 days! Keep up the good work! I'm on day 3 today, see you in Roll!
and hope the job situation improves for you very soon.
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wow your story sounds like mine. I started in college, 20 years of Copenhagen, first attempt to quit, and I'm also jobless (although I resigned until I can get my addictions under control). I still have yet to hang out with any of my buddies since my quit and even cancelled a few hunting trips because I don't feel I'm ready for that challenge yet. It's amazing how one minute you can start to reflect how good you are starting to feel without the nic and the very next second your mind is telling you to run to the store and buy a can. The cravings come out when you least expect it. Keep fighting.
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Congrats DJ...one week is HUGE. Stay strong.
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Great decision you've made DJ. Happy to see another person join up with KTC. I too worried about how I would fair around other people using tobacco. To be honest, it disgusted me. You start to regain smell and taste. Stay strong on Saturday. If you need someone to reach out to, shoot me a PM. Good luck and quit on!
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where are you? No roll?
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where are you? No roll?
That "quit post thing" is the most important thing you can do to stay quit, a week solo or not. Or is it now a second "attempt"? For the record, I "attempted" 30-40 times over 17 years. I quit once 4 months ago. See the difference?
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Is roll call in the morning only? I thought I could go in there anytime of the day. I had a really busy morning with phone interviews. I have a couple really good prospects so I am having a good day. Thanks for all your comments. I had a smokey mountain this morning and then went and bought 2 more cans at Walmart this afternoon. The alternative dip really works for me. I know its not tobacco and I know it has no nicotine in it, but it gets me past the first couple of panicky moments. Ok i'm going to do roll call now before I have yall trying to choke me through my computer.
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Is roll call in the morning only? I thought I could go in there anytime of the day. I had a really busy morning with phone interviews. I have a couple really good prospects so I am having a good day. Thanks for all your comments. I had a smokey mountain this morning and then went and bought 2 more cans at Walmart this afternoon. The alternative dip really works for me. I know its not tobacco and I know it has no nicotine in it, but it gets me past the first couple of panicky moments. Ok i'm going to do roll call now before I have yall trying to choke me through my computer.
Outside of 2nd and 3rd shifters, the theory is to post roll as early as you can, after all, it takes 10 seconds to make a day long promise. If you can't get to a computer in the morning, get some numbers from your November group, and text one of them to post for ya. I still recommend doing it yourself, I know my morning isn't complete without posting roll.
And if you know of an app that allows my to reach through a computer, that would be cool.
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Is roll call in the morning only? I thought I could go in there anytime of the day. I had a really busy morning with phone interviews. I have a couple really good prospects so I am having a good day. Thanks for all your comments. I had a smokey mountain this morning and then went and bought 2 more cans at Walmart this afternoon. The alternative dip really works for me. I know its not tobacco and I know it has no nicotine in it, but it gets me past the first couple of panicky moments. Ok i'm going to do roll call now before I have yall trying to choke me through my computer.
Post Roll Call First thing. It takes just a minute and makes your commitment for the day. Better to say I WILL PROMISE to succeed than I DID succeed. One gives you an out, one doesn't.
The fake is great, put anything you want in your yap including; a Trout, a rabid ferret, a toothpick, a atomic fireball, or that jock strap you found behind the 7-11 BUT DO NOT PUT NICOTINE IN YOUR BODY.
Watch your caffeine intake, nicotine counteracts caffeine so you need to cut that by half.
Keep your blood sugar steady- and up. A sugar crash will lead to a crave.
Exercise ( even a walk) will reduce the frequency and intensity of craves.
Read- Everytime you start to struggle- log in and start reading. Words of Wisdom would be a good place to start.
You can do this. Any Idiot can quit for a single day, and thats all it takes.
sM
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Is roll call in the morning only? I thought I could go in there anytime of the day. I had a really busy morning with phone interviews. I have a couple really good prospects so I am having a good day. Thanks for all your comments. I had a smokey mountain this morning and then went and bought 2 more cans at Walmart this afternoon. The alternative dip really works for me. I know its not tobacco and I know it has no nicotine in it, but it gets me past the first couple of panicky moments. Ok i'm going to do roll call now before I have yall trying to choke me through my computer.
Post Roll Call First thing. It takes just a minute and makes your commitment for the day. Better to say I WILL PROMISE to succeed than I DID succeed. One gives you an out, one doesn't.
The fake is great, put anything you want in your yap including; a Trout, a rabid ferret, a toothpick, a atomic fireball, or that jock strap you found behind the 7-11 BUT DO NOT PUT NICOTINE IN YOUR BODY.
Watch your caffeine intake, nicotine counteracts caffeine so you need to cut that by half.
Keep your blood sugar steady- and up. A sugar crash will lead to a crave.
Exercise ( even a walk) will reduce the frequency and intensity of craves.
Read- Everytime you start to struggle- log in and start reading. Words of Wisdom would be a good place to start.
You can do this. Any Idiot can quit for a single day, and thats all it takes.
sM
You've got some bad-ass brothers watching you now ... heed their advice. Check your PM's (top right) ... I've sent you one!
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This is 2 weeks for me today. I have learned a lot. It's crazy to me that we all have the same problem and yet we are experiencing such a broad range of physical and emotional withdraws and challenges. It's only been 2 weeks and I already feel so distant from days 1-3. This will probably piss a bunch of people off and it is not bragging in the least, but my quit was not that bad. I didn't do a lot of planning and I've never tried to quit before. I had a mark on my gum and it scared the hell out of me. I found this site and quit right then and there. I think I stated this, but my day three was the only really bad moment of my quit so far. Without reading through this site, there is no chance that I would have gotten past those last couple hours of day 3. I was completely caved and had my hand on the tin before I started reading from the site. It calmed me down and eventually the urge went away. If I could make one change, it would have been to sign up and start posting roll at day 1. I didn't sign up and post roll until day 7. This is mainly due to the fact that I am loathe to speak to a bunch of weirdo's I don't know. Nor was I comfortable starting a commitment I was not fully committed to. With this lack of commitment, I was damn lucky to make it to day 7 before I started posting roll. I guess I have to thank God for that one.
So I have pretty much told everyone in my life that I quit. I don't have a wife or kids, so there was no ground breaking celebration or anything. However, there is a little bit of accountability from them and then this site as well. I've gotten a few numbers and made a few comments. I can tell people on this site may want a little more out of me. I've never been a real social butterfly and I don't do huge groups of friends. What I am comfortable with are a few close friends and supporters. I have a pact with Tony to text each other if we don't see each other on roll call and this works for me. As time goes on, I'll form the same pact with a few others. This is how I am approaching it at this time.
At this point I am totally fine with talking a day 1-3 out of the woods, but to be honest I am still learning the best way for me to stay quit. So I guess what I need to work on is getting out there and meeting new people making myself more accountable to others and vice versa.
So what's up with the posting everywhere. Should I be posting under support for December? I could not help but read the epic meltdown over there yesterday. I see people complaining about it, but I think we are all better off for it. I view a bunch of it as blowing off steam, but there was great wisdom in many of the comments. I picked out the things I think I can use to keep me quit. Also what about the 100% group, do I need to be posting there as well? Is there anywhere else I need to be posting?
Ok that's all I have for my 2 week celebration. Does anyone have any thoughts on making my quit stronger?
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This is 2 weeks for me today. I have learned a lot. It's crazy to me that we all have the same problem and yet we are experiencing such a broad range of physical and emotional withdraws and challenges. It's only been 2 weeks and I already feel so distant from days 1-3. This will probably piss a bunch of people off and it is not bragging in the least, but my quit was not that bad. I didn't do a lot of planning and I've never tried to quit before. I had a mark on my gum and it scared the hell out of me. I found this site and quit right then and there. I think I stated this, but my day three was the only really bad moment of my quit so far. Without reading through this site, there is no chance that I would have gotten past those last couple hours of day 3. I was completely caved and had my hand on the tin before I started reading from the site. It calmed me down and eventually the urge went away. If I could make one change, it would have been to sign up and start posting roll at day 1. I didn't sign up and post roll until day 7. This is mainly due to the fact that I am loathe to speak to a bunch of weirdo's I don't know. Nor was I comfortable starting a commitment I was not fully committed to. With this lack of commitment, I was damn lucky to make it to day 7 before I started posting roll. I guess I have to thank God for that one.
So I have pretty much told everyone in my life that I quit. I don't have a wife or kids, so there was no ground breaking celebration or anything. However, there is a little bit of accountability from them and then this site as well. I've gotten a few numbers and made a few comments. I can tell people on this site may want a little more out of me. I've never been a real social butterfly and I don't do huge groups of friends. What I am comfortable with are a few close friends and supporters. I have a pact with Tony to text each other if we don't see each other on roll call and this works for me. As time goes on, I'll form the same pact with a few others. This is how I am approaching it at this time.
At this point I am totally fine with talking a day 1-3 out of the woods, but to be honest I am still learning the best way for me to stay quit. So I guess what I need to work on is getting out there and meeting new people making myself more accountable to others and vice versa.
So what's up with the posting everywhere. Should I be posting under support for December? I could not help but read the epic meltdown over there yesterday. I see people complaining about it, but I think we are all better off for it. I view a bunch of it as blowing off steam, but there was great wisdom in many of the comments. I picked out the things I think I can use to keep me quit. Also what about the 100% group, do I need to be posting there as well? Is there anywhere else I need to be posting?
Ok that's all I have for my 2 week celebration. Does anyone have any thoughts on making my quit stronger?
Two weeks is huge, DJ. I don't care how "easy" you think your quit has been thus far. There are literally millions of people out there that lack the resolve to put that amount of space between themselves and the last time they used nicotine. But, in terms of your quit being relatively easy to this point, maybe it has been and maybe it's right where it needs to be. My only real urging to you would be to stay extra vigilant and expect some curveballs down the road. It's entirely common to fall into sort of a funk after the 20-30 day mark. A lot of folks cave during this time, because the newness of their quit has begun to wear off a bit and the addiction seizes the opportunity to stroke your ego by saying you can handle "just one". Any wavering on your part, I want you to reach out to everyone you can - myself included.
In terms of making your quit stronger, I think you nailed a lot of it in your 2nd paragraph. You're raising the stakes of your accountability, building your network of quit brothers, and staying in regular contact with them. There are a ton of folks that will just never embrace, or even grasp that approach. The fact is, during these early days your quit is going to feel strong one day and maybe a little (or a lot) less so the next. That's the thing about addiction - it's a goddamn roller coaster ride. I'd say that your plan to keep reaching out to more and more folks is a great foundation. Perhaps you can give yourself a goal to reach out to a minimum of 5 other members (a mix of vets and noobs alike) each week. It doesn't mean you're signing up for some kind of huge social commitment, but you will be proactively building up your ranks of supporters that are directly invested in Y-O-U.
Keep it up, man! You've got this today.
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This is 2 weeks for me today. I have learned a lot. It's crazy to me that we all have the same problem and yet we are experiencing such a broad range of physical and emotional withdraws and challenges. It's only been 2 weeks and I already feel so distant from days 1-3. This will probably piss a bunch of people off and it is not bragging in the least, but my quit was not that bad. I didn't do a lot of planning and I've never tried to quit before. I had a mark on my gum and it scared the hell out of me. I found this site and quit right then and there. I think I stated this, but my day three was the only really bad moment of my quit so far. Without reading through this site, there is no chance that I would have gotten past those last couple hours of day 3. I was completely caved and had my hand on the tin before I started reading from the site. It calmed me down and eventually the urge went away. If I could make one change, it would have been to sign up and start posting roll at day 1. I didn't sign up and post roll until day 7. This is mainly due to the fact that I am loathe to speak to a bunch of weirdo's I don't know. Nor was I comfortable starting a commitment I was not fully committed to. With this lack of commitment, I was damn lucky to make it to day 7 before I started posting roll. I guess I have to thank God for that one.
So I have pretty much told everyone in my life that I quit. I don't have a wife or kids, so there was no ground breaking celebration or anything. However, there is a little bit of accountability from them and then this site as well. I've gotten a few numbers and made a few comments. I can tell people on this site may want a little more out of me. I've never been a real social butterfly and I don't do huge groups of friends. What I am comfortable with are a few close friends and supporters. I have a pact with Tony to text each other if we don't see each other on roll call and this works for me. As time goes on, I'll form the same pact with a few others. This is how I am approaching it at this time.
At this point I am totally fine with talking a day 1-3 out of the woods, but to be honest I am still learning the best way for me to stay quit. So I guess what I need to work on is getting out there and meeting new people making myself more accountable to others and vice versa.
So what's up with the posting everywhere. Should I be posting under support for December? I could not help but read the epic meltdown over there yesterday. I see people complaining about it, but I think we are all better off for it. I view a bunch of it as blowing off steam, but there was great wisdom in many of the comments. I picked out the things I think I can use to keep me quit. Also what about the 100% group, do I need to be posting there as well? Is there anywhere else I need to be posting?
Ok that's all I have for my 2 week celebration. Does anyone have any thoughts on making my quit stronger?
My view on posting on boards that aren't you HoF month is that do it if you want to. I post on 10 or 11 boards because some of the long time vets asked me to post with them - which is an honor. I also post on boards younger then mine to offer support. I am not 100% at this, but I try.
I made my quit stronger by posting congratulations to people's milestones, and I also try to get something on a new persons intro. Again, I am not 100% on this, but I try because it lets a new quitter know they aren't alone, and it makes my quit stronger by trying to pay it forward.
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Really like the direction you're heading D ... proud to be quit with you. Text if you need anything, however I'm a little bit of a weirdo (aren't we all)? Keep going bro, you're doing just fine! Being active in your own group is great, and is see a lot of it from you. I'm sure your brothers appreciate it, keep killing it ... build confidence with comfort in your quit.
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Really like the direction you're heading D ... proud to be quit with you. Text if you need anything, however I'm a little bit of a weirdo (aren't we all)? Keep going bro, you're doing just fine! Being active in your own group is great, and is see a lot of it from you. I'm sure your brothers appreciate it, keep killing it ... build confidence with comfort in your quit.
Hell yea we appreciate it. Quit with you today DJ.
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For me the Funk days started on day 18 and is much worse today, day 19. I stopped using Smokey on Day 17 and Day 18 was very tough because of it. I think stopping the fake stuff is what brought on this funk. I am going to try to push through it though. I am having all kinds of bad thoughts:
1. I've never caved, this is my first quit, wouldn't it be a good idea to understand what a cave is like. Of course it has nothing to do with wanting a big fat clog of Copenhagen right?
2. Rifleman decided to go it alone after 30 days. Man wouldn't that be nice, to be able to quit and not deal with having to post every damn morning and still not cave. Hmmm?
3. Am I even at a good point in my life to completely quit dip? I don't have a job and I am stressed beyond belief? Maybe once I get a job it will be easier?
I am certain the funk and lack of sleep are causing all these questions and doubts. I know the answer is obvious for all of these, but fuck I'm tired as shit. I think its best if I just stayed home the next couple of days/nights. Oh well hopefully I'll be better off once I hit my 30 day mark.
On another note, does anyone have thoughts about taking a daily vitamin to help with quits. Its been a while since I have taken a daily and I think I will get back on it today.
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For me the Funk days started on day 18 and is much worse today, day 19. I stopped using Smokey on Day 17 and Day 18 was very tough because of it. I think stopping the fake stuff is what brought on this funk. I am going to try to push through it though. I am having all kinds of bad thoughts:
1. I've never caved, this is my first quit, wouldn't it be a good idea to understand what a cave is like. Of course it has nothing to do with wanting a big fat clog of Copenhagen right?
2. Rifleman decided to go it alone after 30 days. Man wouldn't that be nice, to be able to quit and not deal with having to post every damn morning and still not cave. Hmmm?
3. Am I even at a good point in my life to completely quit dip? I don't have a job and I am stressed beyond belief? Maybe once I get a job it will be easier?
I am certain the funk and lack of sleep are causing all these questions and doubts. I know the answer is obvious for all of these, but fuck I'm tired as shit. I think its best if I just stayed home the next couple of days/nights. Oh well hopefully I'll be better off once I hit my 30 day mark.
On another note, does anyone have thoughts about taking a daily vitamin to help with quits. Its been a while since I have taken a daily and I think I will get back on it today.
1, 2 3 are all the nic bitch talking to you Daniel. I admire your resolve to ditch the smokey, but don't let that lead you down a path of weakness. You got this bro. I'll be texting you shortly.
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Been a while since any activity in here bro! CONGRATS on the HOF today ... stop, enjoy, turn around and look back on the kick-ass quit you've established so far. The most important thing is turning right back around and posting a 101 tomorrow. You're not cured, and never will be as a nicotine addict. Realize that, and engage yourself here at KTC. Head over to some new groups and pick a struggling quitter and support them. Head backwards into some vet's groups and start posting support for them. Pay it backwards and forwards, because you have a lot of quit knowledge to share (and to avoid the "C" word ... complacency). Through all the shit you went through the last 100 days ... you've remained quit. HUGE accomplishment, proud of you D! Stick around and keep posting roll EDD, KTC needs quitters like you!
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Since Day 1, my quit has shifted many times. Over the past couple of weeks I find my quit shifting yet again. Each time, my quit has gotten stronger, just as it has this time. Some of you fucktards already knew this, but I am just starting to get it. So here it is, my big moment, I hate nicotine. I am completely over wishing I had a dip in my mouth. I am done thinking about much stress would be gone if I just had one dip. I know a bunch of you guys have been saying this, but I am finally starting to get it. You have to really start hating the thought of dipping. Having a hate for dipping is re-wiring how I think about dipping. I also think getting off the fake stuff helped me come to this conclusion. So for me, no more romanticizing about that bitch. I now hate the bitch and that's just the way it is. Fuck it only took me 120 days to come to this conclusion.
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Since Day 1, my quit has shifted many times. Over the past couple of weeks I find my quit shifting yet again. Each time, my quit has gotten stronger, just as it has this time. Some of you fucktards already knew this, but I am just starting to get it. So here it is, my big moment, I hate nicotine. I am completely over wishing I had a dip in my mouth. I am done thinking about much stress would be gone if I just had one dip. I know a bunch of you guys have been saying this, but I am finally starting to get it. You have to really start hating the thought of dipping. Having a hate for dipping is re-wiring how I think about dipping. I also think getting off the fake stuff helped me come to this conclusion. So for me, no more romanticizing about that bitch. I now hate the bitch and that's just the way it is. Fuck it only took me 120 days to come to this conclusion.
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Glad you've burnt the boats, and carry the hate for the weed!
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Since Day 1, my quit has shifted many times. Over the past couple of weeks I find my quit shifting yet again. Each time, my quit has gotten stronger, just as it has this time. Some of you fucktards already knew this, but I am just starting to get it. So here it is, my big moment, I hate nicotine. I am completely over wishing I had a dip in my mouth. I am done thinking about much stress would be gone if I just had one dip. I know a bunch of you guys have been saying this, but I am finally starting to get it. You have to really start hating the thought of dipping. Having a hate for dipping is re-wiring how I think about dipping. I also think getting off the fake stuff helped me come to this conclusion. So for me, no more romanticizing about that bitch. I now hate the bitch and that's just the way it is. Fuck it only took me 120 days to come to this conclusion.
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Glad you've burnt the boats, and carry the hate for the weed!
Good deal, man.
It takes however long it takes. You just keep adding those days... You'll find that this new way of thinking and living becomes easier and easier. Freedom is worth waaaay more than we ever knew. Rock on...