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Title: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 21, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 21, 2014, 12:52:00 PM
Hello All -

Just threw away three perfectly good cans of Skoal Mint and took the trash out. I was going to wait to quit until I had finished my reserves and for whatever reason I think the time is now to quit. Bittersweetness!

I have been dipping 3-4 cans a week for a year and four months. I had dipped for a few months at a time several times in my life then was always able to quit for a year or two at a time. I took a chew deer hunting in the Fall of 2012 and for whatever reason, it stuck like chuck this time. I think what bothers me is that this time I feel like I need to help to quit this crap. So I am taking a leap of faith here and looking for support.

My immediate concerns:

1. I have a small white dot on the top of my bottom lip (right in the middle of the lip where the upper lip connects when I close my lips). I read about getting it checked if it doesn't resolve in two weeks. Do these usually go away?

2. I exercise regularly (basketball, lift weights) already. Should I moderate this or increase it now that I have quit? I will be looking for things to do as I dip mostly when I sit at my computer working.

3. Worried that I will blast my wife and kids needlessly if I get cranky. What do I do when I feel this coming? I don't have an anger problem but the last thing I want to do is take this out on others.

4. I drink about 3 glasses of wine at night before bed. I would like to cut that out or way down as well. I am a heavy drinker but rarely get drunk. Should I wait to address that or try to cut back now as well?

Thanks in advance for any support or guidance you can provide. I am so beyond ready to kill the can!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ZillahCowboy on February 21, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Hello All -

Just threw away three perfectly good cans of Skoal Mint and took the trash out. I was going to wait to quit until I had finished my reserves and for whatever reason I think the time is now to quit. Bittersweetness!

I have been dipping 3-4 cans a week for a year and four months. I had dipped for a few months at a time several times in my life then was always able to quit for a year or two at a time. I took a chew deer hunting in the Fall of 2012 and for whatever reason, it stuck like chuck this time. I think what bothers me is that this time I feel like I need to help to quit this crap. So I am taking a leap of faith here and looking for support.

My immediate concerns:

1. I have a small white dot on the top of my bottom lip (right in the middle of the lip where the upper lip connects when I close my lips). I read about getting it checked if it doesn't resolve in two weeks. Do these usually go away?

2. I exercise regularly (basketball, lift weights) already. Should I moderate this or increase it now that I have quit? I will be looking for things to do as I dip mostly when I sit at my computer working.

3. Worried that I will blast my wife and kids needlessly if I get cranky. What do I do when I feel this coming? I don't have an anger problem but the last thing I want to do is take this out on others.

4. I drink about 3 glasses of wine at night before bed. I would like to cut that out or way down as well. I am a heavy drinker but rarely get drunk. Should I wait to address that or try to cut back now as well?

Thanks in advance for any support or guidance you can provide. I am so beyond ready to kill the can!
1) There's no such thing as "three perfectly good cans of Skoal."
2) Flush the shit. People on here as recent as yesterday have dumpster dived to get tins back and have caved. Flush it down the toilet.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: slug.go on February 21, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: Zillah
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Hello All -

Just threw away three perfectly good cans of Skoal Mint and took the trash out. I was going to wait to quit until I had finished my reserves and for whatever reason I think the time is now to quit. Bittersweetness!

I have been dipping 3-4 cans a week for a year and four months. I had dipped for a few months at a time several times in my life then was always able to quit for a year or two at a time. I took a chew deer hunting in the Fall of 2012 and for whatever reason, it stuck like chuck this time. I think what bothers me is that this time I feel like I need to help to quit this crap. So I am taking a leap of faith here and looking for support.

My immediate concerns:

1. I have a small white dot on the top of my bottom lip (right in the middle of the lip where the upper lip connects when I close my lips). I read about getting it checked if it doesn't resolve in two weeks. Do these usually go away?

2. I exercise regularly (basketball, lift weights) already. Should I moderate this or increase it now that I have quit? I will be looking for things to do as I dip mostly when I sit at my computer working.

3. Worried that I will blast my wife and kids needlessly if I get cranky. What do I do when I feel this coming? I don't have an anger problem but the last thing I want to do is take this out on others.

4. I drink about 3 glasses of wine at night before bed. I would like to cut that out or way down as well. I am a heavy drinker but rarely get drunk. Should I wait to address that or try to cut back now as well?

Thanks in advance for any support or guidance you can provide. I am so beyond ready to kill the can!
1) There's no such thing as "three perfectly good cans of Skoal."
2) Flush the shit. People on here as recent as yesterday have dumpster dived to get tins back and have caved. Flush it down the toilet.
Welcome!
#1. Go to a dentist.
#2. I increased mine, helped with anxiety
#3. When the rage hits, go for a walk or run, pound out some push ups. Let your wife read Spousal Support.
#4. Cut out the booze early in quit, booze is leading cause of caves.

Read everything in WELCOME CENTER.
Post every day.
Get some numbers of fellow quitters, show up in Chat.
You're doing a very important thing, congrats!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 21, 2014, 01:39:00 PM
Wow thanks for the quick responses. Can anyone tell me why I cant find May 2014 (my quit group)? I feel like if I don't post roll call there Guido is going to show up and whup my ass. Thanks!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: slug.go on February 21, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Wow thanks for the quick responses. Can anyone tell me why I cant find May 2014 (my quit group)? I feel like if I don't post roll call there Guido is going to show up and whup my ass. Thanks!
Select 'Quit Groups', scroll down. Post roll today!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: slug.go on February 21, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Wow thanks for the quick responses. Can anyone tell me why I cant find May 2014 (my quit group)? I feel like if I don't post roll call there Guido is going to show up and whup my ass. Thanks!
Select 'Quit Groups', scroll down. Post roll today!
You did it! You fucked it up, but you did it. Welcome to May!
Select 'Quote' scroll down to lower box, add your name,
Cut lower box, Paste into top box, not Copy/Paste...you'll get it.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: brettlees on February 21, 2014, 02:07:00 PM
Congratulations on taking action, on taking back your life!
You're already doing something critical by reaching out for help logging in, and by taking Slug.go's guidance-- making connnections and being involved. That's a critical part of this process. You will get more out of this site the more you put in, and that means putting out your newness to the process right now. Hero quitters will step up to help you, as they already have.

Make connections, learn all you can about the evil addiction you are fighting, and give it all for your freedom. You can do it with the methods of this site. Thousands have. It's gotten me to day 122 so far, and if I can quit, you can too!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: mb289 on February 21, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
Good to have you on board ByeByeskoal. I'm on quit day 5 and in your quit group. If I can help you send me a PM.

Dave
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Etxaggie on February 21, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Wow thanks for the quick responses. Can anyone tell me why I cant find May 2014 (my quit group)? I feel like if I don't post roll call there Guido is going to show up and whup my ass. Thanks!
Select 'Quit Groups', scroll down. Post roll today!
You did it! You fucked it up, but you did it. Welcome to May!
Select 'Quote' scroll down to lower box, add your name,
Cut lower box, Paste into top box, not Copy/Paste...you'll get it.
Hilarious slug.go! That made me laugh. I messed up roll for probably a week....

Somebody was coming behind me  fixing my fuck ups.

Quit on BBS!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: DennyX on February 21, 2014, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: Etxaggie
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Wow thanks for the quick responses. Can anyone tell me why I cant find May 2014 (my quit group)? I feel like if I don't post roll call there Guido is going to show up and whup my ass. Thanks!
Select 'Quit Groups', scroll down. Post roll today!
You did it! You fucked it up, but you did it. Welcome to May!
Select 'Quote' scroll down to lower box, add your name,
Cut lower box, Paste into top box, not Copy/Paste...you'll get it.
Hilarious slug.go! That made me laugh. I messed up roll for probably a week....

Somebody was coming behind me  fixing my fuck ups.

Quit on BBS!
Nicely done brother. I dug around in a trash can in the middle of a park as my kids cried in the stroller and people just stared. Yuppie neighborhood, yuppie park. Me, kids crying, flailing trash like a junkie. I was desperate and probably looked terrible. Take the advice and make damn sure you can't dumpster dive to get it, nicotine is a powerful mistress. She's gonna fight but you're stronger. Just today, you just have to make it through today. Welcome!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Realtreerick on February 21, 2014, 11:04:00 PM
Welcome! I think i may be in your quit group as well. I am on day 8.

You can and will quit.

I'm here if you want to chat about anything not tobacco related, so you don't think about it!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Sap on February 23, 2014, 11:02:00 PM
Where you at bro? Haven't seen you post since day 1. I'm thinking this does not bode well for you.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 09:09:00 AM
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Sap on February 24, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 10:06:00 AM
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Your post was pretty nonchalant so I'm guessing that you don't quite "get it" yet. KTC is the place where you go when you've made the decision to QUIT and are ready to make a daily promise that you aren't going to use nicotine for any reason.

So FIRST, make a decision: are you ready to quit or are you going to wait until a medical professional shares with you that the lab results came back and that the white spot on your tongue is a malignant tumor and that they suspect that it may have spread to your lymph-nodes?

If you are ready to quit (aka be a man, be a father, be a husband), step two is to go post roll. THEN, immediately return to your intro page and answer the three questions very honestly. I suggest you realize that there is no excuse...

C'mon, man. You're a dad. Enough bullshit.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: slug.go on February 24, 2014, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Your post was pretty nonchalant so I'm guessing that you don't quite "get it" yet. KTC is the place where you go when you've made the decision to QUIT and are ready to make a daily promise that you aren't going to use nicotine for any reason.

So FIRST, make a decision: are you ready to quit or are you going to wait until a medical professional shares with you that the lab results came back and that the white spot on your tongue is a malignant tumor and that they suspect that it may have spread to your lymph-nodes?

If you are ready to quit (aka be a man, be a father, be a husband), step two is to go post roll. THEN, immediately return to your intro page and answer the three questions very honestly. I suggest you realize that there is no excuse...

C'mon, man. You're a dad. Enough bullshit.
Do what Sapper and Minny require.
Also, flush your stash/emergency cans down the toilet. Don't throw them away, that action just brought on your cave and embarrassment rifling through the trash looking for a hit. Scour your car/truck and where you work/live for any more stash, then flush.
We're here to support your quit, but until you commit 100% to quitting, there is nothing we can do. Quit or get.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Sure I will answer the questions here and post in the quit groups as requested:


1. What happened - I felt bad physically after several hours clean and needed a fix. I gave myself credit for going long hours without a dip and rewarded myself. I have cut back by 60% over three days. Honestly I feel better about the 60% of progress than I feel bad about the 40% of caving. Quitting outright is just difficult yet that is the goal.

2. Why did it happen - Old habits die harder than I expected. It is obvious to me I cant quit on my own for more than a short period. I don't want to be a whiner or an asshole or feel dependent on others. I didn't get on KTC this weekend. I didn't talk to anyone about the urges because I knew you wouldn't say "take a dip brother".

3. What will you do to keep it from happening again - I need to get on KTC daily and talk to people. Figure out roll call. I have exercised each of the last three days and that has helped dramatically. I have plans to hit the gym this afternoon. I also am making sure I have my meals somewhat planned in advance. It would be helpful to talk to someone as well but where do I start?
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Sure I will answer the questions here and post in the quit groups as requested:


1. What happened - I felt bad physically after several hours clean and needed a fix. I gave myself credit for going long hours without a dip and rewarded myself. I have cut back by 60% over three days. Honestly I feel better about the 60% of progress than I feel bad about the 40% of caving. Quitting outright is just difficult yet that is the goal.

2. Why did it happen - Old habits die harder than I expected. It is obvious to me I cant quit on my own for more than a short period. I don't want to be a whiner or an asshole or feel dependent on others. I didn't get on KTC this weekend. I didn't talk to anyone about the urges because I knew you wouldn't say "take a dip brother".

3. What will you do to keep it from happening again - I need to get on KTC daily and talk to people. Figure out roll call. I have exercised each of the last three days and that has helped dramatically. I have plans to hit the gym this afternoon. I also am making sure I have my meals somewhat planned in advance. It would be helpful to talk to someone as well but where do I start?
This is black and white. Either you quit or you don't. 95% is not an 'A'. Anything other than 100% is a FAIL.

Win TODAY by not having any nicotine FOR ANY REASON. You want to reward yourself? By all means! Treat yourself to anything, be it a ice cream cone or a Rolex. As long as it isn't Nicotine.

Check your inbox for my #.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:37:00 AM
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on February 24, 2014, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
don't put anymore in your mouth, that's how you get there.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Sap on February 24, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
listen Byebyeskoal, we've all been there. It's tough, it sucks, but you we did it and you can too. It gets so much easier after the first three days. I'm on day 22 and honestly, I'm worried about getting complacent now. I have no desire to go get a dip most of the time, which makes it dangerous when that sneak attack craving comes up, but the worst is only the first few days. You can do it. I promise you.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: Sapper
listen Byebyeskoal, we've all been there. It's tough, it sucks, but you we did it and you can too. It gets so much easier after the first three days. I'm on day 22 and honestly, I'm worried about getting complacent now. I have no desire to go get a dip most of the time, which makes it dangerous when that sneak attack craving comes up, but the worst is only the first few days. You can do it. I promise you.
Thanks. I want to dip right now to be honest with you. I am just going to keep reading and posting here until the craving goes away. I don't know what else to do.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Bruce on February 24, 2014, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
listen Byebyeskoal, we've all been there.  It's tough, it sucks, but you we did it and you can too.  It gets so much easier after the first three days.  I'm on day 22 and honestly, I'm worried about getting complacent now.  I have no desire to go get a dip most of the time, which makes it dangerous when that sneak attack craving comes up, but the worst is only the first few days.  You can do it.  I promise you.
Thanks. I want to dip right now to be honest with you. I am just going to keep reading and posting here until the craving goes away. I don't know what else to do.
You want a dip, you need your jaw
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
Check again.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
Right. I am a professional and need to be able to speak and look decent doing so. I am a father and a husband. Skoal is not welcome in my family! She is like a nasty mistress.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
Check again.
Man I feel like an idiot but when I go to inbox there are no new messages from you. What am I missing???
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
listen Byebyeskoal, we've all been there.  It's tough, it sucks, but you we did it and you can too.  It gets so much easier after the first three days.  I'm on day 22 and honestly, I'm worried about getting complacent now.  I have no desire to go get a dip most of the time, which makes it dangerous when that sneak attack craving comes up, but the worst is only the first few days.  You can do it.  I promise you.
Thanks. I want to dip right now to be honest with you. I am just going to keep reading and posting here until the craving goes away. I don't know what else to do.
That's what I did at first: I read Intros and the Welcome Center and everything else KTC that I could find. Drink a TON of water, hit the gym, eat sunflower seeds/jolly ranchers/atomic fireballs, whatever.

It gets better, but you're in for a rough couple of days. You can do this.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
Check again.
Man I feel like an idiot but when I go to inbox there are no new messages from you. What am I missing???
Send me a PM with your cell #.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
listen Byebyeskoal, we've all been there.  It's tough, it sucks, but you we did it and you can too.  It gets so much easier after the first three days.  I'm on day 22 and honestly, I'm worried about getting complacent now.  I have no desire to go get a dip most of the time, which makes it dangerous when that sneak attack craving comes up, but the worst is only the first few days.  You can do it.  I promise you.
Thanks. I want to dip right now to be honest with you. I am just going to keep reading and posting here until the craving goes away. I don't know what else to do.
That's what I did at first: I read Intros and the Welcome Center and everything else KTC that I could find. Drink a TON of water, hit the gym, eat sunflower seeds/jolly ranchers/atomic fireballs, whatever.

It gets better, but you're in for a rough couple of days. You can do this.
Right. I bought protein shakes, candy and plan to buy some seeds. I work in an office by myself a lot so there has been little accountability. My wife didn't even know I dipped for several months until she noticed the stains on my office floor from errant spits.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Thanks for being direct. I get that I need to quit 100%. And trust me I want to. But all that matter is actions. I am getting there. Minny I don't see any message in my inbox??
Check again.
Man I feel like an idiot but when I go to inbox there are no new messages from you. What am I missing???
Send me a PM with your cell #.
Just texted you
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 24, 2014, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Sure I will answer the questions here and post in the quit groups as requested:


1. What happened - I felt bad physically after several hours clean and needed a fix. I gave myself credit for going long hours without a dip and rewarded myself. I have cut back by 60% over three days. Honestly I feel better about the 60% of progress than I feel bad about the 40% of caving. Quitting outright is just difficult yet that is the goal.

2. Why did it happen - Old habits die harder than I expected. It is obvious to me I cant quit on my own for more than a short period. I don't want to be a whiner or an asshole or feel dependent on others. I didn't get on KTC this weekend. I didn't talk to anyone about the urges because I knew you wouldn't say "take a dip brother".

3. What will you do to keep it from happening again - I need to get on KTC daily and talk to people. Figure out roll call. I have exercised each of the last three days and that has helped dramatically. I have plans to hit the gym this afternoon. I also am making sure I have my meals somewhat planned in advance. It would be helpful to talk to someone as well but where do I start?
September Sluts, Duck Fips, and other KTCers: This morning I had a long conversation with this new quitter. KTC, this guy here is worth the effort. Please reach out to him.

ByeByeSkoal: post roll every morning, honor your word, and stay active on KTC. You can do this.

None Today For Any Reason
One Day At A Time
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 24, 2014, 02:48:00 PM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Sure I will answer the questions here and post in the quit groups as requested:


1. What happened - I felt bad physically after several hours clean and needed a fix. I gave myself credit for going long hours without a dip and rewarded myself. I have cut back by 60% over three days. Honestly I feel better about the 60% of progress than I feel bad about the 40% of caving. Quitting outright is just difficult yet that is the goal.

2. Why did it happen - Old habits die harder than I expected. It is obvious to me I cant quit on my own for more than a short period. I don't want to be a whiner or an asshole or feel dependent on others. I didn't get on KTC this weekend. I didn't talk to anyone about the urges because I knew you wouldn't say "take a dip brother".

3. What will you do to keep it from happening again - I need to get on KTC daily and talk to people. Figure out roll call. I have exercised each of the last three days and that has helped dramatically. I have plans to hit the gym this afternoon. I also am making sure I have my meals somewhat planned in advance. It would be helpful to talk to someone as well but where do I start?
September Sluts, Duck Fips, and other KTCers: This morning I had a long conversation with this new quitter. KTC, this guy here is worth the effort. Please reach out to him.

ByeByeSkoal: post roll every morning, honor your word, and stay active on KTC. You can do this.

None Today For Any Reason
One Day At A Time
Minny you brought some clarity to the fog in my head this morning. I made it through a few more hours. Thanks for taking the time. I really appreciate the advice. Karma baby!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: SirDerek on February 24, 2014, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Sapper
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am back. I dumpster dove all weekend as trash doesn't come until tomorrow. I could just as easily have gone to a convenience store but I think I wanted to punish myself and look like a homeless dude rummaging through my own trash for a nic hit. Ridiculous. That said, I said I would quit Friday and I made it half a day. I managed through the weekend with 2 dips a day (rather than the usual 6+). So I will own my shortcoming and embrace the progress. I plan to get on my quit group now and rejoin the fight.
Well, at least you admit it... ridiculous is about the only term that comes to mind.

There are three questions you need to answer, and you've somewhat answered them, but you need to think about them in depth and post them to both your old (May 14) and new (June 14) quit groups.

1. What happened
2. Why did it happen
3. What will you do to keep it from happening again
Sure I will answer the questions here and post in the quit groups as requested:


1. What happened - I felt bad physically after several hours clean and needed a fix. I gave myself credit for going long hours without a dip and rewarded myself. I have cut back by 60% over three days. Honestly I feel better about the 60% of progress than I feel bad about the 40% of caving. Quitting outright is just difficult yet that is the goal.

2. Why did it happen - Old habits die harder than I expected. It is obvious to me I cant quit on my own for more than a short period. I don't want to be a whiner or an asshole or feel dependent on others. I didn't get on KTC this weekend. I didn't talk to anyone about the urges because I knew you wouldn't say "take a dip brother".

3. What will you do to keep it from happening again - I need to get on KTC daily and talk to people. Figure out roll call. I have exercised each of the last three days and that has helped dramatically. I have plans to hit the gym this afternoon. I also am making sure I have my meals somewhat planned in advance. It would be helpful to talk to someone as well but where do I start?
September Sluts, Duck Fips, and other KTCers: This morning I had a long conversation with this new quitter. KTC, this guy here is worth the effort. Please reach out to him.

ByeByeSkoal: post roll every morning, honor your word, and stay active on KTC. You can do this.

None Today For Any Reason
One Day At A Time
Minny you brought some clarity to the fog in my head this morning. I made it through a few more hours. Thanks for taking the time. I really appreciate the advice. Karma baby!
got an addition to your number 3 for how to keep this from happening again.

I will take Minny at his word, but come on over into the Oct12 group. Post up with us madmen and madwomen each day on your way to the hall. Give us your word as well, so that you expand that web of quit.

My phone has lots of room left in it, so if you want the accountability, and want more to watch over, shoot me a pm and my number can be had. And in my time here I have learned to use it.

disclaimer is serious inquiry only....
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Mthomas3824 on February 24, 2014, 06:06:00 PM
'Crazy' (Nicotine addiction is crazy shit. Dumpster diving to feel worthless? Damn I hate the nic bitch.)
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Sh4string on February 24, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
Welcome!! Don't overthink this....post roll every day and promise not to use for a measly 24 hours....keep promise, and repeat. It is gonna suck bad for awhile, but it gets so much better! If I can do it anyone can...get involved with the site!!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Quitforsoj on February 24, 2014, 06:46:00 PM
Post roll each day -stay busy - repeat
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 25, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
Alright day 2. It has been about 24 hours since my last dip. Didn't sleep well last night. So restless. Head hurts. Grateful for making it this far. Need to write to stay busy. Right now would be the time I normally take my favorite dip of the day. Kids are off to school. Wife at work. Settling in to work. As it is, I am making friends with David, the sunflower seed maker. He is a salty little bastard! (That is my lame attempt at humor at a time when things are pretty tough).

Thank you to all who are supporting me. Your strength helps me. It has been probably 16 months since I have been able to say I went one FREAKING day without a dip. How angering. Yet I take pride in the accomplishment. I feel like I just worked really hard for 24 hours straight with no pay. Talk about great efforts for a small and silent success. I woke up this morning and told my wife I had stopped dipping. Guess what, there were no balloons. No party. Not even a hug. Just a crazed look that I cant figure out. This is not her problem so I am just letting that go and trying to get through these dog days.

My stash is completely gone. Trash man has come and gone. Check.

I have come clean to my wife. Makes me feel good and accountable. Check.

Posted roll day 2. Check.

Have a plan for the day to stay busy and eat well. Check.

Trying to get fired up for a productive day at work. Missed about half my work day yesterday focusing on not dipping. I have ditched my former weaning program in favor of abstinence. That was another hard thing to do but probably also the most empowering.

I feel a little better, a little more ready to start my day now. Thanks for listening!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: omahaflyer on February 25, 2014, 09:46:00 AM
One small victory after another adds up to success. You can do this, I promise.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: B-loMatt on February 25, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Keep close to KTC ByeBye, and read everything here. If you feel like you need help fighting jump on live chat. Awesome job getting through day 1! You are wrong about not getting paid for 24hours of bad assed quit though. Your pay is freedom! Your pay is your health. Your pay is the money you saved not buying poison to kill yourself with! Best days work ever! Keep your word for the rest of the day and you will earn some more of your freedom!
First stretch of quit is so hard, maybe the hardest thing any of us do, but it gets way better. Fight like your life depends upon it, and focus your rage where it belongs: at US tobacco and the poison weed they hooked you with! QLF with you all day. PM me if you need another # or have any questions.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 25, 2014, 03:24:00 PM
Thank you all! Another half a day in the books. I am Captain POSITIVE right now because I went to the gym rather than pack a lip after lunch. I had to miss work but I am willing to do what it takes to succeed. I can work once I get through these withdrawals. Honestly what I read on here about the cravings only lasting a few minutes is spot on. KTC is getting some cred with me.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 26, 2014, 08:34:00 AM
Day 3. Treated myself to a dinner out last night as I was having serious cravings and wanted to stay busy. The price of my meal was about what I have saved in snuff over the last few days. Slept long hours but restlessly last night. Dull headache. Getting ready for meetings at work. Mind seems to be super active (so contrasting to yesterday where I could not focus at all). Have some nerves that normally I would calm with some worm dirt. Not going there. Had a text waiting for me from a KTC brother this morning. The support really helps.

Roll call posted.
Drinking lots of water.
Ate a healthy breakfast.

Trying to avoid a rollercoaster type day which to me means starting the day with KTC!

Stay strong today my brothers!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: srans on February 26, 2014, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Day 3. Treated myself to a dinner out last night as I was having serious cravings and wanted to stay busy. The price of my meal was about what I have saved in snuff over the last few days. Slept long hours but restlessly last night. Dull headache. Getting ready for meetings at work. Mind seems to be super active (so contrasting to yesterday where I could not focus at all). Have some nerves that normally I would calm with some worm dirt. Not going there. Had a text waiting for me from a KTC brother this morning. The support really helps.

Roll call posted.
Drinking lots of water.
Ate a healthy breakfast.

Trying to avoid a rollercoaster type day which to me means starting the day with KTC!

Stay strong today my brothers!
Great job. Nothing like a good meal to kill a crave.To bad finishing a good meal usually ends with a crave early in a quit. 'bang head'

Getting your mind right will help. Realize the poison never helped anything. The only thing it helped with was filling the void it created. When you were dealing with stress, you also had to worry about getting a fix. Stress caused withdraw. I've found that I'm handling stress 10 times better now.

Begin reading everything you can on nicotine/addiction. Knowledge is power. Time to begin learning the truths. Learn your enemy, you can bet it knows you. Quit with you.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 26, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
"The only thing it helped with was filling the void it created."

Well said sir!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 26, 2014, 04:43:00 PM
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Quitforsoj on February 26, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Day 2 - 3 was hard for me also... Gets better....I am only on Day 8 and can tell you that day 8 is easy as
Compared to the first 3 days.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: slug.go on February 26, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
BBS,
Do you have contact info for other quitters to build your network with?
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: duathman on February 26, 2014, 04:58:00 PM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
BBS,
Do you have contact info for other quitters to build your network with?
Good advise slug.go. Get with some active guys in your group and start a conversational thread via groupme or kik messanger or something similar so you can get to know each other and have something to do when the craves hit. Trust me I still keep in contact with people in my group everyday still. It helps
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: DexJ on February 26, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: duathman
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
BBS,
Do you have contact info for other quitters to build your network with?
Good advise slug.go. Get with some active guys in your group and start a conversational thread via groupme or kik messanger or something similar so you can get to know each other and have something to do when the craves hit. Trust me I still keep in contact with people in my group everyday still. It helps
Hey guys, guessing this is our "Quit Group". Not sure where/how to post the intro. I've tried to quit a couple times on my own...some success, but tough to do alone and inevitably caved. Found this website, and I'm in as of today....eating carrots of all things as I type this! Not looking forward to going through this, but glad I've got others to go through it with.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: duathman on February 26, 2014, 05:08:00 PM
Quote from: DexJ
Quote from: duathman
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
BBS,
Do you have contact info for other quitters to build your network with?
Good advise slug.go. Get with some active guys in your group and start a conversational thread via groupme or kik messanger or something similar so you can get to know each other and have something to do when the craves hit. Trust me I still keep in contact with people in my group everyday still. It helps
Hey guys, guessing this is our "Quit Group". Not sure where/how to post the intro. I've tried to quit a couple times on my own...some success, but tough to do alone and inevitably caved. Found this website, and I'm in as of today....eating carrots of all things as I type this! Not looking forward to going through this, but glad I've got others to go through it with.
'zombie' heeeeeellllllllllpppppppppp. Look up to the salmon colored letters "welcome center." read up. Nice quitting brother!!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 27, 2014, 09:11:00 AM
I see you posted roll again first thing this a.m. Now keep the promise no matter what!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: slug.go
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Just had a bowl of ice cream - cookies and cream to be precise. How wonderful. Here on day three I have had 3-4 strong cravings but they quickly went away. Yes I have to eat seeds or ice cream to keep something in my mouth, but I can see a small light at the end of the tunnel and I don't think it is an oncoming train!
BBS,
Do you have contact info for other quitters to build your network with?
Only one. he is great but I feel I may be taking too much of his time.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
I see you posted roll again first thing this a.m. Now keep the promise no matter what!
I was up at 3:00am. I went to bed at 8 so I wouldn't have to think about dipping. I know that is crazy but it was a surefire way to get to day 4.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Derk40 on February 27, 2014, 09:34:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Minny
I see you posted roll again first thing this a.m.  Now keep the promise no matter what!
I was up at 3:00am. I went to bed at 8 so I wouldn't have to think about dipping. I know that is crazy but it was a surefire way to get to day 4.
Nice job bro. I don't think that is crazy at all. In fact... you do whatever the hell you need to do today to keep quit. Everything is on the table. Quitting is your top priority today.

I am quit with you all day long!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: Minny
I see you posted roll again first thing this a.m.  Now keep the promise no matter what!
I was up at 3:00am. I went to bed at 8 so I wouldn't have to think about dipping. I know that is crazy but it was a surefire way to get to day 4.
Nice job bro. I don't think that is crazy at all. In fact... you do whatever the hell you need to do today to keep quit. Everything is on the table. Quitting is your top priority today.

I am quit with you all day long!
Right. I recall plenty of creative ways TO DIP. Surely I can find creative ways NOT TO DIP.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
I am a cranky bastard right now. Day 4 sucks...
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 03:37:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am a cranky bastard right now. Day 4 sucks...
What is the deal with caffeine during a quit? Just had a cup as I am having trouble staying awake. Is sleepiness normal for a day 4 quitter?
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: SirDerek on February 27, 2014, 03:41:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am a cranky bastard right now. Day 4 sucks...
What is the deal with caffeine during a quit? Just had a cup as I am having trouble staying awake. Is sleepiness normal for a day 4 quitter?
your body is fighting, so you will be tired. Also the interrupted sleep patterns (if you are having them), will get in the way.

completely normal as you re-wire and start to go without the poison in your system.

power naps were a key for me.

keep fighting, you are winning 4-0. keep upping the score
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: SAM83 on February 27, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am a cranky bastard right now. Day 4 sucks...
What is the deal with caffeine during a quit? Just had a cup as I am having trouble staying awake. Is sleepiness normal for a day 4 quitter?
your body is fighting, so you will be tired. Also the interrupted sleep patterns (if you are having them), will get in the way.

completely normal as you re-wire and start to go without the poison in your system.

power naps were a key for me.

keep fighting, you are winning 4-0. keep upping the score
What he said^^^^....also,watch how much caffeine you intake.....I made the mistake of drinking to much early in my quit and had a day where I felt like raging and clawing my own face off. The caffeine really magnified my rage and anxiety. I pound a lot of decaf now during the day at work.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: srans on February 27, 2014, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
I am a cranky bastard right now. Day 4 sucks...
What is the deal with caffeine during a quit? Just had a cup as I am having trouble staying awake. Is sleepiness normal for a day 4 quitter?
your body is fighting, so you will be tired. Also the interrupted sleep patterns (if you are having them), will get in the way.

completely normal as you re-wire and start to go without the poison in your system.

power naps were a key for me.

keep fighting, you are winning 4-0. keep upping the score
4 days is no joke. Your brain is now healing and thanking you. You have not been giving it the proper oxygen it requires for a long time. While it heals you will go through a few things. Take it one day at a time and deal with each obstacle head on, one at a time.

As derek stated, power naps. Drink juices and water. Keep flushing your system. Watch your coffee intake. You only need half the caffeine your use to. Nicotine somewhat suppressed the affects of caffiene. Exercise helps also, but i myself found it hard to accomplish exercising the first couple weeks. I could barely walk straight for a few feet let alone run a mile. Lol

Your doing it man? Embrace the suck brother. One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it. Great day to be qlf.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 27, 2014, 04:32:00 PM
Exhaling. Thanks all for the replies. Trying to power through it all. I have to really slow down and just suck it up until the suck is over!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: srans on February 27, 2014, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Exhaling. Thanks all for the replies. Trying to power through it all. I have to really slow down and just suck it up until the suck is over!
One second at a time my friend. The price of freedom is going to cost you, but it's so worth it. Go outside and take a look at the world without nicotine running through your veins. Smell the dignity you've been taking back for 4 days. Suck in the integrity you've demonstrated. Freedom, this is what it's all about. My worst day quit is better than my best day using. Let's take this day to the house.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 28, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: SAM83 on February 28, 2014, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
You got the system....ODAAT....You are right, never want to go through those first few days again!!!!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on February 28, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
You got the system....ODAAT....You are right, never want to go through those first few days again!!!!

I think it was Trauma that used to talk about burning the bridge back to dip... Always one to think in analogies, I imagined two islands. One is the place you used to live, Addict Island. It was great! Sunshine, palm trees, friends, all the time in the world to "chew in peace"... so you thought. There's a bridge about 100 yards long that leads Freedom Island. It's a place that you would glance at every once in a while but never made the trek.

On Day 1 you stepped onto the bridge and started walking. You looked back toward Addict Island and your buddies were calling at you, cold beer in hand, wondering why you were leaving the party. They were having so much fun! You stepped foot on Freedom Island and it was kinda foreign. You felt uneasy and anxious, but you stayed. A few days have gone by and now when you look back through some binos you notice that your buddies don't look so good... and the foundation of some of the buildings are rotting... have you ever seen Shutter Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaYLCiq5RM)?

Some day you will look back and see a leper colony that reeks of death and despair. But now? Burn the bridge. Gasoline, C4... whatever. Make it impossible to go back by weaving layers of accountability into your life. You're doing GREAT. Keep piling on. Take the fight to this battle Every Damn Day and do things to strengthen your quit.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Etxaggie on February 28, 2014, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: SAM83
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
You got the system....ODAAT....You are right, never want to go through those first few days again!!!!
I think it was Trauma that used to talk about burning the bridge back to dip... Always one to think in analogies, I imagined two islands. One is the place you used to live, Addict Island. It was great! Sunshine, palm trees, friends, all the time in the world to "chew in peace"... so you thought. There's a bridge about 100 yards long that leads Freedom Island. It's a place that you would glance at every once in a while but never made the trek.

On Day 1 you stepped onto the bridge and started walking. You looked back toward Addict Island and your buddies were calling at you, cold beer in hand, wondering why you were leaving the party. They were having so much fun! You stepped foot on Freedom Island and it was kinda foreign. You felt uneasy and anxious, but you stayed. A few days have gone by and now when you look back through some binos you notice that your buddies don't look so good... and the foundation of some of the buildings are rotting... have you ever seen Shutter Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaYLCiq5RM)?

Some day you will look back and see a leper colony that reeks of death and despair. But now? Burn the bridge. Gasoline, C4... whatever. Make it impossible to go back by weaving layers of accountability into your life. You're doing GREAT. Keep piling on. Take the fight to this battle Every Damn Day and do things to strengthen your quit.
Nice Minny. Love the analogy....
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: srans on February 28, 2014, 10:38:00 AM
Quote from: Etxaggie
Quote from: Minny
Quote from: SAM83
Quote from: ByeByeSkoal
Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
You got the system....ODAAT....You are right, never want to go through those first few days again!!!!
I think it was Trauma that used to talk about burning the bridge back to dip... Always one to think in analogies, I imagined two islands. One is the place you used to live, Addict Island. It was great! Sunshine, palm trees, friends, all the time in the world to "chew in peace"... so you thought. There's a bridge about 100 yards long that leads Freedom Island. It's a place that you would glance at every once in a while but never made the trek.

On Day 1 you stepped onto the bridge and started walking. You looked back toward Addict Island and your buddies were calling at you, cold beer in hand, wondering why you were leaving the party. They were having so much fun! You stepped foot on Freedom Island and it was kinda foreign. You felt uneasy and anxious, but you stayed. A few days have gone by and now when you look back through some binos you notice that your buddies don't look so good... and the foundation of some of the buildings are rotting... have you ever seen Shutter Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaYLCiq5RM)?

Some day you will look back and see a leper colony that reeks of death and despair. But now? Burn the bridge. Gasoline, C4... whatever. Make it impossible to go back by weaving layers of accountability into your life. You're doing GREAT. Keep piling on. Take the fight to this battle Every Damn Day and do things to strengthen your quit.
Nice Minny. Love the analogy....
Good job skoal. Read my hof speech when you get a second. There is another analogy for you. It's in my signature line. Keep doing what your doing. It's working my friend. Quit with you today.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on February 28, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
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Day 5 - Going to keep things simple. I choose not to dip today.

I had a serious craving this morning. Probably the strongest yet. I thought about just one, then thought about losing the progress of 5 days. NO WAY am I going back to that place. I can't imagine starting over. Posted roll. Texted a brother. Making plans to not dip today. Progress. ODAAT.
You got the system....ODAAT....You are right, never want to go through those first few days again!!!!
I think it was Trauma that used to talk about burning the bridge back to dip... Always one to think in analogies, I imagined two islands. One is the place you used to live, Addict Island. It was great! Sunshine, palm trees, friends, all the time in the world to "chew in peace"... so you thought. There's a bridge about 100 yards long that leads Freedom Island. It's a place that you would glance at every once in a while but never made the trek.

On Day 1 you stepped onto the bridge and started walking. You looked back toward Addict Island and your buddies were calling at you, cold beer in hand, wondering why you were leaving the party. They were having so much fun! You stepped foot on Freedom Island and it was kinda foreign. You felt uneasy and anxious, but you stayed. A few days have gone by and now when you look back through some binos you notice that your buddies don't look so good... and the foundation of some of the buildings are rotting... have you ever seen Shutter Island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iaYLCiq5RM)?

Some day you will look back and see a leper colony that reeks of death and despair. But now? Burn the bridge. Gasoline, C4... whatever. Make it impossible to go back by weaving layers of accountability into your life. You're doing GREAT. Keep piling on. Take the fight to this battle Every Damn Day and do things to strengthen your quit.
Nice Minny. Love the analogy....
Good job skoal. Read my hof speech when you get a second. There is another analogy for you. It's in my signature line. Keep doing what your doing. It's working my friend. Quit with you today.
Again thanks for the support. Minny you made me think about a couple of my buddies who I dipped with. One lives next door. I actually haven't seen them since I stopped (or told them that I did). Not too worried about that. Just glad I am one more day into a quit than one more day into a nastyass addiction.

You all make it a little easier. Thanks for letting me lean on you.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on March 03, 2014, 04:15:00 PM
Hey Quitter! How was your first weekend as a free man?
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on March 04, 2014, 09:53:00 AM
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Hey Quitter! How was your first weekend as a free man?
Easy at times. Painful at others. Seeds and gum did the trick. It is incredible how many things I do that I associate with a good chew. Tinkering in the garage. Having some beers fishing Sunday afternoon. Just sickening to realize. Then I think about the freedom, the better health, the victory of the quit. Then I get happy! Day 8 underway!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: B-loMatt on March 04, 2014, 11:42:00 AM
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Hey Quitter! How was your first weekend as a free man?
Easy at times. Painful at others. Seeds and gum did the trick. It is incredible how many things I do that I associate with a good chew. Tinkering in the garage. Having some beers fishing Sunday afternoon. Just sickening to realize. Then I think about the freedom, the better health, the victory of the quit. Then I get happy! Day 8 underway!
I found that life was a trigger for me to dip; it was sad and it made me angry. The anger helped me crush the triggers, and eventually the urges to kill myself with a poison weed went away... Great work getting this far! No reason not to +1 again today.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on March 04, 2014, 12:31:00 PM
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Hey Quitter! How was your first weekend as a free man?
Easy at times. Painful at others. Seeds and gum did the trick. It is incredible how many things I do that I associate with a good chew. Tinkering in the garage. Having some beers fishing Sunday afternoon. Just sickening to realize. Then I think about the freedom, the better health, the victory of the quit. Then I get happy! Day 8 underway!
I found that life was a trigger for me to dip; it was sad and it made me angry. The anger helped me crush the triggers, and eventually the urges to kill myself with a poison weed went away... Great work getting this far! No reason not to +1 again today.
For so long I felt so powerless over Skoal. I knew I would quit one day and would say "I can quit anytime I want". But I couldn't. That false pride just got me through to the next dip. Now I marvel at the power of being quit ODAAT.

By the way FUCK YOU SKOAL! You stole so much of my life. The fog is starting to lift somewhat and I see what an ugly dirty nasty possessive mistress you are. I cant believe I let you control me. And I was willing to pay for it! AAAHHHHH! I want to scream.

Sorry for the rant. Was feeling the anger. Now feeling better. Regretting not having the strength to do something sooner about quitting.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: B-loMatt on March 04, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
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Hey Quitter! How was your first weekend as a free man?
Easy at times. Painful at others. Seeds and gum did the trick. It is incredible how many things I do that I associate with a good chew. Tinkering in the garage. Having some beers fishing Sunday afternoon. Just sickening to realize. Then I think about the freedom, the better health, the victory of the quit. Then I get happy! Day 8 underway!
I found that life was a trigger for me to dip; it was sad and it made me angry. The anger helped me crush the triggers, and eventually the urges to kill myself with a poison weed went away... Great work getting this far! No reason not to +1 again today.
For so long I felt so powerless over Skoal. I knew I would quit one day and would say "I can quit anytime I want". But I couldn't. That false pride just got me through to the next dip. Now I marvel at the power of being quit ODAAT.

By the way FUCK YOU SKOAL! You stole so much of my life. The fog is starting to lift somewhat and I see what an ugly dirty nasty possessive mistress you are. I cant believe I let you control me. And I was willing to pay for it! AAAHHHHH! I want to scream.

Sorry for the rant. Was feeling the anger. Now feeling better. Regretting not having the strength to do something sooner about quitting.
Just keep your rage focused like this ^^! 'oh yeah'
Every time I get a crave I get ape-shit mad at the poison and UST, the way I let that crap control me, and the fact that I was paying for it! 'Finger' nic I quit. Stay strong ByeByeSkoal, you are winning!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: LeonardThompson on March 04, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on March 05, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
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Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Thanks. I do "got this" only with your help. Day 8 on its way!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on March 05, 2014, 01:41:00 PM
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Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Thanks. I do "got this" only with your help. Day 8 on its way!
I don't know why this struck me as so funny but I can't stop laughing about the ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ZillahCowboy on March 05, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
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Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Thanks. I do "got this" only with your help. Day 8 on its way!
I don't know why this struck me as so funny but I can't stop laughing about the ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.
I find it funny, too. Images of waking up and finding a mistress in my mattress... WTF. :-)
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: ByeByeSkoal on March 05, 2014, 02:39:00 PM
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Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Thanks. I do "got this" only with your help. Day 8 on its way!
I don't know why this struck me as so funny but I can't stop laughing about the ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.
I find it funny, too. Images of waking up and finding a mistress in my mattress... WTF. :-)
What would happen if you buttressed the mistress with a mattress to press out the stress? I digress...
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: apogeeammo on March 05, 2014, 03:23:00 PM
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Hahaha, Bye Bye Skoal.

I saw your rant a couple of replies down and at first glance thought that you called nicotine an ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.

I was like, "Hell yeah. Fuck that Mattress Bitch."

Wait, what? Oh.

Keep it up dude, We got this. Fog and all.
Thanks. I do "got this" only with your help. Day 8 on its way!
I don't know why this struck me as so funny but I can't stop laughing about the ugly, dirty, possessive MATTRESS.
I find it funny, too. Images of waking up and finding a mistress in my mattress... WTF. :-)
What would happen if you buttressed the mistress with a mattress to press out the stress? I digress...
what a mess!
Title: Re: First time post
Post by: Minny on March 12, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Happy Birthday, BBS! 100% posting is the way to freedom. Keep it up!