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Title: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: stressed on April 20, 2013, 12:44:00 PM
title says it all. How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing. My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety. Anyone please words of wisdom? I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again. I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it. I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now. I just read this sort of thing happens. How do I get through it.????
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: kkljinc on April 20, 2013, 12:49:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
title says it all. How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing. My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety. Anyone please words of wisdom? I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again. I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it. I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now. I just read this sort of thing happens. How do I get through it.????
Welcome to the group. How do you get through it? First, go post roll call with the group you will be in. likely April group, promise not to use today. Next grab your balls and fight it. Show the nic bitch who is boss. Remember back to the first few days and how bad they suck, you dont want to go down that road again.

Lots of bad ass quitters in this group and I quit with you but you have to stay quit. Get in and post roll and promise to not let your group down for 24 hours. You can do this.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Notdeadyet on April 20, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
title says it all. How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing. My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety. Anyone please words of wisdom? I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again. I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it. I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now. I just read this sort of thing happens. How do I get through it.????
Post roll and keep your word.

This will pass, but only if you stay clean. Get your mind set right. Eliminate the option of dip from your life. You got to want your freedom more than anything else. Believe in a future free from your addiction. A future that does not torture you any more. But the only way to achieve it is to stay clean today.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: stressed on April 20, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
More about me while I wait for some words of wisdom. At least I hope to get some inspirational words. I started dipping when I was 14 and I am 35 now. This is my second attempt to quit in the last 5 years. Thinking back this is where I lost it last time. I took my family out last night with another couple we know to play pool etc. I didn't know the man in the couple was a dipper. He pulled out his can in front of me and I smelled it, not intentionally. It has been really stressful ever since.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Lucas on April 20, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
title says it all. How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing. My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety. Anyone please words of wisdom? I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again. I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it. I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now. I just read this sort of thing happens. How do I get through it.????
One day at a time. Dip is not going to solve any of your problems. Check your inbox (1).
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Notdeadyet on April 20, 2013, 12:56:00 PM
You got your math wrong.

One problem + dip = two problems
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: kkljinc on April 20, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
More about me while I wait for some words of wisdom. At least I hope to get some inspirational words. I started dipping when I was 14 and I am 35 now. This is my second attempt to quit in the last 5 years. Thinking back this is where I lost it last time. I took my family out last night with another couple we know to play pool etc. I didn't know the man in the couple was a dipper. He pulled out his can in front of me and I smelled it, not intentionally. It has been really stressful ever since.
Your just like me, 37 started at about 12 years old. It's just a trigger, you got this. If you can get through this you can get through the next one.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Hellya on April 20, 2013, 02:00:00 PM
There is no reason to ever put that shit in your mouth again. I know it doesn't seem like it but you know that deep down that using it will only increase your anxiety and stress even more.

You've got this man, tell the nic-bitch to fuck off. Scream it out loud if you have to.

Then look at each side

Smells, tastes, feelings, emotions, extra years of life, living with your jaw and tongue, your family, your health.

vs.

dip.

Which side is more important to you?
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: srans on April 20, 2013, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
More about me while I wait for some words of wisdom.  At least I hope to get some inspirational words.  I started dipping when I was 14 and I am 35 now.  This is my second attempt to quit in the last 5 years.  Thinking back this is where I lost it last time.  I took my family out last night with another couple we know to play pool etc.  I didn't know the man in the couple was a dipper.  He pulled out his can in front of me and I smelled it, not intentionally.  It has been really stressful ever since.
Got a couple friends that have tried chantix.. DIDN'T WORK!!
Got a couple friends that tried nicotine replacement thereopy.. DIDN'T WORK!!
Got a couple friends that tried hypnosis... DIDN'T WORK.


Got 1000's of friends that quit with killthecan. WORKED LIKE A CHARM!!!!!!

Go to the welcome center,, top left,, learn to post roll. Make friends,, you don't have to go through this alone. Figure out what group your in and make friends. Exchange number, get to know fellow quitters.
The most important thing,, Stay quit for today.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: eric71 on April 20, 2013, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: stressed
More about me while I wait for some words of wisdom.  At least I hope to get some inspirational words.  I started dipping when I was 14 and I am 35 now.  This is my second attempt to quit in the last 5 years.  Thinking back this is where I lost it last time.  I took my family out last night with another couple we know to play pool etc.  I didn't know the man in the couple was a dipper.  He pulled out his can in front of me and I smelled it, not intentionally.  It has been really stressful ever since.
Got a couple friends that have tried chantix.. DIDN'T WORK!!
Got a couple friends that tried nicotine replacement thereopy.. DIDN'T WORK!!
Got a couple friends that tried hypnosis... DIDN'T WORK.


Got 1000's of friends that quit with killthecan. WORKED LIKE A CHARM!!!!!!

Go to the welcome center,, top left,, learn to post roll. Make friends,, you don't have to go through this alone. Figure out what group your in and make friends. Exchange number, get to know fellow quitters.
The most important thing,, Stay quit for today.
How important is your word? You see, once you post roll, formally or informally, you are now giving your word that you will not use today. Today is all we ask for. Get back to the base and get in live chat as well. They will not let you down.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: CleanFuel on April 20, 2013, 05:10:00 PM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
You got your math wrong.

One problem + dip = two problems
Love this
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Wt57 on April 20, 2013, 07:39:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
title says it all.  How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing.  My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety.  Anyone please words of wisdom?  I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again.  I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it.  I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now.  I just read this sort of thing happens.  How do I get through it.????
This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: CleanFuel on April 20, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: stressed
title says it all.  How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing.  My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety.  Anyone please words of wisdom?  I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again.  I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it.  I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now.  I just read this sort of thing happens.  How do I get through it.????
This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
WT is IN THE HOUSE.....!!!!!
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 21, 2013, 05:37:00 AM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: stressed
title says it all.  How do I talk myself out of what I am thinking about doing.  My thought process right now is this formula: stress + dip = no stress, anxiety + dip = no anxiety.  Anyone please words of wisdom?  I just spent an hour on the phone with my mom trying to reason the reason I shouldn't start dipping again.  I am on chantix but that isn't cutting it.  I am using hooch but its not cutting it right now.  I just read this sort of thing happens.  How do I get through it.????
This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
WT is IN THE HOUSE.....!!!!!
Stressed. I know exactly how you are feeling right now. If have the time, read my intro thread and you will see almost your very words.

DO NOT USE. You dont need it man. You only think you do, that is the big lie. Once you figure that out, you will be sailing along much smoother. It takes some time for your brain to rewire, I am day 111 and I still encounter circumstances that tempt me to use. Push through it man, it is worth it. You know this.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: stressed on April 21, 2013, 11:56:00 AM
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This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
That was a little rough but another approach of reverse psychology effect of addiction. I appreciate your different style. I made it through it guys. I feel better for it. I was having too much of a fit yesterday to even try to join a group. I will follow through now.

I wanted to thank everyone who replied. I needed it. Yes even Mr. Anger Management. :) You need a hug Wt57. To be honest just reading your replies helped me muscle through. It was good to hear from people going through the same thing as me. No one around me gets how life changing this is but you guys can relate. I went and found something to occupy my mind. Thanks again.

Jim
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Bruce on April 21, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
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This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
That was a little rough but another approach of reverse psychology effect of addiction. I appreciate your different style. I made it through it guys. I feel better for it. I was having too much of a fit yesterday to even try to join a group. I will follow through now.

I wanted to thank everyone who replied. I needed it. Yes even Mr. Anger Management. :) You need a hug Wt57. To be honest just reading your replies helped me muscle through. It was good to hear from people going through the same thing as me. No one around me gets how life changing this is but you guys can relate. I went and found something to occupy my mind. Thanks again.

Jim
WT doesn't need a hug, he needs a handshake and a black coffee, Murica.

That and he's right on point, stressed you have to put your quit first. Under any circumstances should the nic bitch be an option. Poll roll, make your promise every day brother and enjoy your freedom.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: zam on April 21, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: stressed
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This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
That was a little rough but another approach of reverse psychology effect of addiction. I appreciate your different style. I made it through it guys. I feel better for it. I was having too much of a fit yesterday to even try to join a group. I will follow through now.

I wanted to thank everyone who replied. I needed it. Yes even Mr. Anger Management. :) You need a hug Wt57. To be honest just reading your replies helped me muscle through. It was good to hear from people going through the same thing as me. No one around me gets how life changing this is but you guys can relate. I went and found something to occupy my mind. Thanks again.

Jim
WT doesn't need a hug, he needs a handshake and a black coffee, Murica.

That and he's right on point, stressed you have to put your quit first. Under any circumstances should the nic bitch be an option. Poll roll, make your promise every day brother and enjoy your freedom.
Dude, WT isn't using any "psychology" at all. It's not a "style", unless truth is just a "style". As Bruce said, he's telling you what you addict-brain won't tell you - that this is a matter of you making a CHOICE of whether to dip or not, and your willingness to burn bridges to make the CHOICE of nicotine simply not possible.
(note: at 74 days, my guess is you are trying to decide whether you are QUIT, or if you are happy with simply cutting back or nic-fasting on occasion.)

So here goes. ...."push through this! You can do it! We love you. Kumbaya. Hugs. etc etc. " Inspiring? or pandering......
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 21, 2013, 04:07:00 PM
Quote from: Zam
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: stressed
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This is complete bullshit. Dip does nothing positive. I don't care if you use chantex or hooch or cat turds just no nicotine. I suggest you spend the rest of the weekend doing nothing but reading words of wisdom and HOF speeches. Make up your mind if you really want to quit. If not don't waste people's time. If you do want to, Post roll and prove your integrity.
That was a little rough but another approach of reverse psychology effect of addiction. I appreciate your different style. I made it through it guys. I feel better for it. I was having too much of a fit yesterday to even try to join a group. I will follow through now.

I wanted to thank everyone who replied. I needed it. Yes even Mr. Anger Management. :) You need a hug Wt57. To be honest just reading your replies helped me muscle through. It was good to hear from people going through the same thing as me. No one around me gets how life changing this is but you guys can relate. I went and found something to occupy my mind. Thanks again.

Jim
WT doesn't need a hug, he needs a handshake and a black coffee, Murica.

That and he's right on point, stressed you have to put your quit first. Under any circumstances should the nic bitch be an option. Poll roll, make your promise every day brother and enjoy your freedom.
Dude, WT isn't using any "psychology" at all. It's not a "style", unless truth is just a "style". As Bruce said, he's telling you what you addict-brain won't tell you - that this is a matter of you making a CHOICE of whether to dip or not, and your willingness to burn bridges to make the CHOICE of nicotine simply not possible.
(note: at 74 days, my guess is you are trying to decide whether you are QUIT, or if you are happy with simply cutting back or nic-fasting on occasion.)

So here goes. ...."push through this! You can do it! We love you. Kumbaya. Hugs. etc etc. " Inspiring? or pandering......
Stressed, you mentioned that "we can relate". Damn straight brother, we have been through and are continuing to go through the same shit. Thats what makes this site so powerful. Its a brotherhood man, use the tools. One day at a time.
Title: Re: at day 74 having issues big time need help
Post by: OldSarge on April 21, 2013, 08:07:00 PM
Quote from: stressed
More about me while I wait for some words of wisdom. At least I hope to get some inspirational words. I started dipping when I was 14 and I am 35 now. This is my second attempt to quit in the last 5 years. Thinking back this is where I lost it last time. I took my family out last night with another couple we know to play pool etc. I didn't know the man in the couple was a dipper. He pulled out his can in front of me and I smelled it, not intentionally. It has been really stressful ever since.
My story is much the same. Started when I was 12 im 52 now I quit in 97 for 10 months and blamed re-starting to dip on the guys who i worked with. The truth is I failed there is only one person to blame and that is me.

This time I will not fail and I will stay quit. When you start looking for reasons to not quit you are failing yourself. Do not talk yourself into not quiting, tell the bitch to eat shit and die!! Stay the course don't cave.