KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: CCM on January 09, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
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O.K. I've been hanging around this site for about a week, reading the posts and checking out all the resources. I've already made the decision to quit, so I may as well get it out there and start being held accountable.
First off....I haven't quit yet. That day will be March 1st. I have been putting crap in my mouth for 30 years (since age 13...a popular age according to the posts I've read, and funny enough, I was raised in Ohio, which appears to be a common State for the members). I have tried everything, cold turkey, patches, gum, smoking (ended up smoking with chew in my mouth...come to think of it, I think I also had a patch on....how fucked up is that!).
Nothing worked, so I'm using a triation plan with Herbal chew. The plan is posted on my fridge and I have all the cans for the entire duration pre-mixed, marked, and stuck in the freezer (the people from Hooch must think I'm a re-seller!). I also have a case of the herbs ready to go for after March 1.
I know I can't quit cold turkey...it just ain't gonna happen. I know myself too well. I also know that my biggest issue is not going to be the nicotine (but I'm pretty sure that's gonna suck pretty bad), but rather the fact that I've had something stuck in my face for 30 years. That's gonna be the hard one to break. So...the herbal stuff is truly the only thing I believe is going to work. I never even heard about the stuff until about a month ago. It's actually pretty good. I'm on week 2 of my triation plan and so far so good.
I know some of you will think I'm a pussy for not just calling it quits and being done with it. So be it. But I know myself and this is the way it's going to be. Since I won't officially quit unitl March 1, I won't have a quit group yet. So the best I can do is come on to the introduction forum every morning and state the following:
"Today I will stick to my plan to quit."
That's it. My email is canescoachmark@yahoo.com (http://mailto:canescoachmark@yahoo.com). If any of you long-timers don't see that post from me in the intro section every day feel free to send me some nasty emails.
Thank you for this site. I'm very grateful that the people at Hooch had a link to it from their site or I never would have known about it.
Mark
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Welcome to the site Mark. We are glad to have you aboard. I will start of by warning you that one of the dips you take between now and March 1st maybe the "bad one".
With that said, I have to admit that your "I will stick to my plan" pledge is commendable. I'm not sure what the others will say about this, but I am going to take that pledge as an equal to posting roll in that I assume it will be your word. That's how this site works. You give your word, you keep your word. Without that this site is nothing. For the next month and a half, when you make that post, I will assume you are in the weaning process of the pre-mixed portions. If you vary from that by buying a can or bumming a dip you have broken your bond.
That being said, you may want to stay out of the groups until you have the tobacco completely kicked. It wouldn't be fair to the completely tobacco free for you to consider yourself their equal quite yet. If you need support until then, send me a PM and I will do my best to help you out. I'm sure there will be some more along shortly that will offer the same.
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mark --
i'll second what 11 has said. i'd prefer you quit today, but if you are happy with this plan then i'll be happy to support you in it.
one word of caution though -- i (and many others here) tried to "set a date" and stick to it... as march 1st draws nearer, the nic bitch will come up with all kinds of reasons to extend your dipping life -- don't let her.
when march 1 rolls around, i expect you to be the first in line posting day 1.... you'll be in the june 2008 class -- wish we'd see you quit sooner but i'll definitely commend you on having a plan and sticking to it.
chewie
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Today is Thursday, January 10th, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
-I will not buy any tobacco today.
-I will not borrow any tobacco today.
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mark --
i'll second what 11 has said. i'd prefer you quit today, but if you are happy with this plan then i'll be happy to support you in it.
one word of caution though -- i (and many others here) tried to "set a date" and stick to it... as march 1st draws nearer, the nic bitch will come up with all kinds of reasons to extend your dipping life -- don't let her.
when march 1 rolls around, i expect you to be the first in line posting day 1.... you'll be in the june 2008 class -- wish we'd see you quit sooner but i'll definitely commend you on having a plan and sticking to it.
chewie
Most people around here don't know that I cut down for I think a week from a can a day to 2 bandits on the last day. I was one of the few who stuck to their quit date. You are lucky, I found this site on day 4 of my full quit. I had to go through the cut back and quit on my own.
The boys are right though, no time better than today to quit!!! We will be checking on you daily and we expect that you will be keeping your word. If your word is worth a shit - you will be a quitter soon.
By the way, what do you coach?
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Today is Thursday, January 10th, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
-I will not buy any tobacco today.
-I will not borrow any tobacco today.
Supporting and making sure you stick to your word:
11X4 - 264
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mark --
i'll second what 11 has said. i'd prefer you quit today, but if you are happy with this plan then i'll be happy to support you in it.
one word of caution though -- i (and many others here) tried to "set a date" and stick to it... as march 1st draws nearer, the nic bitch will come up with all kinds of reasons to extend your dipping life -- don't let her.
when march 1 rolls around, i expect you to be the first in line posting day 1.... you'll be in the june 2008 class -- wish we'd see you quit sooner but i'll definitely commend you on having a plan and sticking to it.
chewie
Most people around here don't know that I cut down for I think a week from a can a day to 2 bandits on the last day. I was one of the few who stuck to their quit date. You are lucky, I found this site on day 4 of my full quit. I had to go through the cut back and quit on my own.
The boys are right though, no time better than today to quit!!! We will be checking on you daily and we expect that you will be keeping your word. If your word is worth a shit - you will be a quitter soon.
By the way, what do you coach?
Thanks for your reply and support, and also thank you to iuchewie and 11X4 for theirs as well (and to LDiddy).
I coach a girls select fastpitch team (ages 18 and under....basically high school kids preparing to play in college). The team plays 9 months out of the year and travels around the counrty. It is not my job....it costs me a ton of money! I also coach football (ages 9 to 15) in my spare time in the fall!
I should also add to my previous post...
- I won't steal any tabacco today either.
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Today is Thursday, January 11, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
- I will not buy any tobacco today.
- I will not borrow any tobacco today.
- I will not steal any tobacco today.
Also, my brain has requested that I rescind my statement about the oral fixation being harder to quit than the nicotine. OhÂ…how I forgot
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See what I mean...I don't even know what day it is.
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Keep working CCM...best thing you'll ever do.
Wanted to let you know you can accelerate your schedule too. I had planned on a 3-month ween down. I had a plan and everything. Every time it was time for my fix, I'd try to go a little bit longer...15 minutes, 1 hour...before you knew it it was getting easier and easier to go longer.
Stick with your plan, or quit now...we're all pulling for you.
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Today is Thursday, January 11, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
- I will not buy any tobacco today.
- I will not borrow any tobacco today.
- I will not steal any tobacco today.
Also, my brain has requested that I rescind my statement about the oral fixation being harder to quit than the nicotine. OhÂ…how I forgot Â…
Here for support:
11X4 - 265 Never mind "also", stick to the plan. No one said it was gonna be easy, but you can do it.
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Today is Thursday, January 11, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
- I will not buy any tobacco today.
- I will not borrow any tobacco today.
- I will not steal any tobacco today.
Also, my brain has requested that I rescind my statement about the oral fixation being harder to quit than the nicotine. Oh…how I forgot …
Here for support:
11X4 - 265 Never mind "also", stick to the plan. No one said it was gonna be easy, but you can do it.
Mij---134 I'm pulling for you man, C'mon let's get your quit going.
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Today is Saturday, January 12, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
- I will not buy any tobacco today.
- I will not borrow any tobacco today.
- I will not steal any tobacco today.
Go Seahawks!
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Keep up the quit,
Go PACK!
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Keep up the quit,
Go PACK!
A little wager maybe? Cheesehead.....
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alright coach, keep this plan on track you should be hood to ho on the 1st ... we do keep track of people and their word to us, just so ya' know ... good luck dude
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Today is Sunday, January 13, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
I will not buy any tobacco today.
I will not borrow any tobacco today.
I will not steal any tobacco today.
The Seahawks....I mean really....how do you lose when a team spots you 14 points? God...I thought I was watching a blue and green version of the Browns from my youth...what a nightmare.
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Today is Sunday, January 13, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on March 1st.
I will not buy any tobacco today.
I will not borrow any tobacco today.
I will not steal any tobacco today.
The Seahawks....I mean really....how do you lose when a team spots you 14 points? God...I thought I was watching a blue and green version of the Browns from my youth...what a nightmare.
Just because I'm not signing support everyday for a little while doesn't mean I ain't there for you bro. Just not as much internet access available to me.
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Just because I'm not signing support everyday for a little while doesn't mean I ain't there for you bro. Just not as much internet access available to me.
11X4...Thank you for your comments and support. However, please do not feel obligated to reply everyday. The only person who needs to post on this thread everyday is ME!. If you don't see my post everyday...then, by all means fill my email box up. Other than that, posting on this site everyday is keeping me on track (actually ahead of schedule) and will get me to my quit date.
I have a plan, I've stated what it was, and when it will be. I put it out there with my word on it. It will happen.
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"(actually ahead of schedule)"
Keep up the good work...as long as your losing the love for the stuff you're heading in the right direction. Keep posting!
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Just because I'm not signing support everyday for a little while doesn't mean I ain't there for you bro. Just not as much internet access available to me.
11X4...Thank you for your comments and support. However, please do not feel obligated to reply everyday. The only person who needs to post on this thread everyday is ME!. If you don't see my post everyday...then, by all means fill my email box up. Other than that, posting on this site everyday is keeping me on track (actually ahead of schedule) and will get me to my quit date.
I have a plan, I've stated what it was, and when it will be. I put it out there with my word on it. It will happen.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You're plan is commendable, and I am happy to offer my support being as you are sticking to it. You are using this site for what it is intended for. I'll be here to help get you clean now and keep you clean later!
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Today is Monday, January 14, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
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Today is Monday, January 14, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
Coach - I just read this thread. Congratulations on your decision, and congratulations for implementing accountability into your quit plan. Accountability and a community of people who know what it's like to quit and can, therefore, call me out on any bullshit excuses, has made all the difference to my quit. Just wanted you to know that and to hear it from a new quitter (2 weeks as of today of a 16 year Skoal habit, the last 10 years of which were a can per day). I support you. Keep your word.
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Today is Monday, January 14, 2008 and I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit chewing tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
Coach - I just read this thread. Congratulations on your decision, and congratulations for implementing accountability into your quit plan. Accountability and a community of people who know what it's like to quit and can, therefore, call me out on any bullshit excuses, has made all the difference to my quit. Just wanted you to know that and to hear it from a new quitter (2 weeks as of today of a 16 year Skoal habit, the last 10 years of which were a can per day). I support you. Keep your word.
Good luck from one coach to another. Hang in there. Most of my urges are flaming out now, but one thing I use to fire myself up with when they hit hard was thinking about the young lives I may have negatively influenced by dipping in front of them while coaching football and track. It makes me feel horrible and pissed off enough to forget wanting a dip.
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Today is Tuesday, January 15th, 2008. I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit using tobacco on February 23, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
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Today is Wednesday, January 16th, 2008. I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit using tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
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Today is Wednesday, January 16th, 2008. I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit using tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
man...LOOT hasn't followed along too well and really aint got time to figure it out
it sounds like you are posting with a fatty tho...and that shit aint right.
you got a log of Cope to finish or sumpin?
How about you quit pussy footing around the subject, admit your and addict, flush whatever the fuck it is you still have and get the fuck on board with the quit?
just please tell LOOT that you aren't posting on this forum with a fatty in....
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and CCM...LOOT is gonna call bullshit on your sig line too
if you don't need any self inflicted shit...then be a man and stand up on the top rope and give LOOT a big ol' HELL YEAH!
a 6 week plan to quit dude? pa...fucking....lease
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Today is Wednesday, January 16th, 2008. I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit using tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
man...LOOT hasn't followed along too well and really aint got time to figure it out
it sounds like you are posting with a fatty tho...and that shit aint right.
you got a log of Cope to finish or sumpin?
How about you quit pussy footing around the subject, admit your and addict, flush whatever the fuck it is you still have and get the fuck on board with the quit?
just please tell LOOT that you aren't posting on this forum with a fatty in....
Well....that was real fucking helpful. Thank you very much. Why don't you read my original post...or is this the "Cold Turkey" only site? It seems to me that a macho, hard-core attitude got us all into this shit in the first place. To each is own. I am using this site to do what I know I can do. If you don't like it...go fuck yourself. Have a nice day.
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Today is Wednesday, January 16th, 2008. I will stick with my plan that will allow me to quit using tobacco on February 23rd, 2008. I will not buy, borrow, or steal any tobacco today.
man...LOOT hasn't followed along too well and really aint got time to figure it out
it sounds like you are posting with a fatty tho...and that shit aint right.
you got a log of Cope to finish or sumpin?
How about you quit pussy footing around the subject, admit your and addict, flush whatever the fuck it is you still have and get the fuck on board with the quit?
just please tell LOOT that you aren't posting on this forum with a fatty in....
Well....that was real fucking helpful. Thank you very much. Why don't you read my original post...or is this the "Cold Turkey" only site? It seems to me that a macho, hard-core attitude got us all into this shit in the first place. To each is own. I am using this site to do what I know I can do. If you don't like it...go fuck yourself. Have a nice day.
don't blame loot canes -- he cares in his own special way and he'd walk through fire to ensure that you're quit. he like many others on the site believes that cold turkey is the way to go.
i'm guessing that he'll bust your balls until you get to your actual quit day, but i can guarantee that he'll be one of your biggest supporters once you post day 1 in june 08.
chewie
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I know he will. I've read his posts...seems like the biggest supporter here! He's hilarious. I'm just spouting off....and doing my thing. It's all going very well.
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
Well, I thought the whole point of the site was accountability and that's what I was using it for. But...since you seem to be one of the big wigs around here...I guess I'll just pack my bags and see you guys back here when I meet your criteria.
Thanks again for the site.
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
Well, I thought the whole point of the site was accountability and that's what I was using it for. But...since you seem to be one of the big wigs around here...I guess I'll just pack my bags and see you guys back here when I meet your criteria.
Thanks again for the site.
LOOT aint a big wig....just a quitter
and loot don't make rules alone...if no one else has a problem with your plan, or you posting with a lipper...the go right ahead...LOOT'll just call bullshit until he sees a Day 1 post from you
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
Well, I thought the whole point of the site was accountability and that's what I was using it for. But...since you seem to be one of the big wigs around here...I guess I'll just pack my bags and see you guys back here when I meet your criteria.
Thanks again for the site.
LOOT aint a big wig....just a quitter
and loot don't make rules alone...if no one else has a problem with your plan, or you posting with a lipper...the go right ahead...LOOT'll just call bullshit until he sees a Day 1 post from you
Alright, we'll see you later - when you DON'T have any tobacco stuffed in your face. You want to lurk with a fatty in, go ahead. Just don't post with one in. Easy, simple.
Humor me with one last post though...If you pledge to not beg, borrow or steal tobacco, but you have a huge stash to tide you over, what good is the fucking pledge? If I'm Bill Gates and I pledge not to spend more than $200 on lunch today, is that really meaningful?
The answer is No.
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
Well, I thought the whole point of the site was accountability and that's what I was using it for. But...since you seem to be one of the big wigs around here...I guess I'll just pack my bags and see you guys back here when I meet your criteria.
Thanks again for the site.
LOOT aint a big wig....just a quitter
and loot don't make rules alone...if no one else has a problem with your plan, or you posting with a lipper...the go right ahead...LOOT'll just call bullshit until he sees a Day 1 post from you
Alright, we'll see you later - when you DON'T have any tobacco stuffed in your face. You want to lurk with a fatty in, go ahead. Just don't post with one in. Easy, simple.
Humor me with one last post though...If you pledge to not beg, borrow or steal tobacco, but you have a huge stash to tide you over, what good is the fucking pledge? If I'm Bill Gates and I pledge not to spend more than $200 on lunch today, is that really meaningful?
The answer is No.
Loot, Remmy,
I've gone a while on this site agreeing with you guys and you have given me great advice countless times and for that I can never fully repay you. But on this one I am going to respectfully disagree.
CCM has been posting his word to get himself quit right here. I gave him the good advice to stay out of the quit groups and he has stayed good to his word to spite that. He may find that his quit was a little late and he has been made aware of that from a good many of us, but in the mean time he is sticking to his plan and we owe it to him to support that.
CCM, I said it before and I'll say it again, stay the course! get clean, sooner rather than later! In fact, NOW!
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“Go fuck yourself”…howsabout a little reality check there homo. LOOT don’t need to read your original post. LOOT knows that you are dipping while you are posting on this site. That is taboo dumbass. Think about it…LOOT would like for you to study over some of the roll calls that are pinned in the quit group section. Now…ask yourself how many of those people would like to have a dip. How many would like to pack in a big ol fatty, just like you and tell everyone else “I’ll quit in 6 weeks or so”. If your intent is to ween, fine…LOOT aint got no problem with that. But for fucks sake us some common sense and understand that you are waving the source of peoples addiction in their faces just so you can make a promise to yourself, that LOOT says you won’t keep anyway. Buy a fucking calendar and count down the days to the 23rd…but fuck almighty dude…don’t do it here. It’s called being considerate….you’ve fuckin got to be kidding LOOT man.
And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
Well, I thought the whole point of the site was accountability and that's what I was using it for. But...since you seem to be one of the big wigs around here...I guess I'll just pack my bags and see you guys back here when I meet your criteria.
Thanks again for the site.
LOOT aint a big wig....just a quitter
and loot don't make rules alone...if no one else has a problem with your plan, or you posting with a lipper...the go right ahead...LOOT'll just call bullshit until he sees a Day 1 post from you
Alright, we'll see you later - when you DON'T have any tobacco stuffed in your face. You want to lurk with a fatty in, go ahead. Just don't post with one in. Easy, simple.
Humor me with one last post though...If you pledge to not beg, borrow or steal tobacco, but you have a huge stash to tide you over, what good is the fucking pledge? If I'm Bill Gates and I pledge not to spend more than $200 on lunch today, is that really meaningful?
The answer is No.
Loot, Remmy,
I've gone a while on this site agreeing with you guys and you have given me great advice countless times and for that I can never fully repay you. But on this one I am going to respectfully disagree.
CCM has been posting his word to get himself quit right here. I gave him the good advice to stay out of the quit groups and he has stayed good to his word to spite that. He may find that his quit was a little late and he has been made aware of that from a good many of us, but in the mean time he is sticking to his plan and we owe it to him to support that.
CCM, I said it before and I'll say it again, stay the course! get clean, sooner rather than later! In fact, NOW!
I agree with 11X4.
Loot you've given me good advice in the past, and I thank you for that. In fact, I thank you and chewie most of all for helping me quit, but what happened right here was F*CKED.
F*ck if a guy is gonna/trying/maybe gonna quit why bust him out of here. Busting someone fine, busting them all the way out of here is pointless.
Joe
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First off, thanks for all the support from everybody, and also thanks to Loot and Rem for jumping on me. I think it brought up some good points that I hadn't thought of, and maybe will it will lead to some process to deal with others like me.
To put this thread to rest, I will be sending a PM every morning to some members and will not be posting on the site. But hey...can you blame me for trying something...anything to quit and make it stick?
See you all for my first roll call on Ground Hog Day!
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First off, thanks for all the support from everybody, and also thanks to Loot and Rem for jumping on me. I think it brought up some good points that I hadn't thought of, and maybe will it will lead to some process to deal with others like me.
To put this thread to rest, I will be sending a PM every morning to some members and will not be posting on the site. But hey...can you blame me for trying something...anything to quit and make it stick?
See you all for my first roll call on Ground Hog Day!
You can do it Mark! I would rather see you quit today, but do what you need to do.
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I agree with 11X4.
Loot you've given me good advice in the past, and I thank you for that. In fact, I thank you and chewie most of all for helping me quit, but what happened right here was F*CKED.
F*ck if a guy is gonna/trying/maybe gonna quit why bust him out of here. Busting someone fine, busting them all the way out of here is pointless.
Joe
Didn't mean to disappoint you.
LOOT has absolutely no problem with weaning...even with dip. LOOT could tolerate it for a little while...but 6 weeks of subjecting young quitters to "hey...in 45 days I'm gonna quit...just you wait and see" is a little excessive.
We have have never tolerated signing roll call (in any form) with tobacco in your mouth. Yet it was going on in here...with quitters joining in. That sends the wrong message in my opinion. But again...LOOT don't make the rules but I will tell you this...
I left my own group for months because one of our members smoked some cigs and continued to post his "smokeless" number. I refused to sign roll call with him and there was a huge stink over it. That is why Syn and I don't get along. Enough history.
Here is my promise. The day that this site allows people to post in quit group roll calls/personal introduction roll calls/wildcard roll calls etc. and it is accepted by the moderators and administrators of this board...that day will be my last. It goes against everything that I believe in and everything that I have worked for for 960 days.
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11, EOI, and anyone else who disagrees with me,
I posted this in another area. It illustrates a few of my reasons.
One of the foundations of posting at QS was always that you do not post with dip in your mouth. And, I agree with that.
I can see some one posting - Hey, i'm on day 26 with 1/2 of a pinch of cope and 1/2 of a pinch of hooch shit!!!
Then we have Wally WishIwasstilldipping reading his post and thinking, "fuck this shit, one won't hurt."
That goes against everything I believe, that works here.
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Keep in mind - we are here for the greater good. We are not politicians and we cannot pander to each individual. Why? #1 we don't lie. #2 what you see is what you get. This is our only resource. It is for the greater good. Newbies should not have to read posts from someone who has dip in his mouth.
It will most definitely weaken someone's will and will lead to caving.
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And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
OK...LOOT was called to task for this.
Please understand....I would never, ever, in a million years wish cancer on someone. The point of this sentence was to make CCM think. You see, LOOT thinks oral cancer/lung cancer is a black and white issue. You either have it...or you don't.
There is ONE SINGLE DIP that determines your fate...all I was conveying was that I hoped that ONE wasn't before this 6 week out quit date.
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And BTWÂ…LOOT hopes the dips you take between now and some pie in the sky fucking date arenÂ’t the ones that cost you your face.
OK...LOOT was called to task for this.
Please understand....I would never, ever, in a million years wish cancer on someone. The point of this sentence was to make CCM think. You see, LOOT thinks oral cancer/lung cancer is a black and white issue. You either have it...or you don't.
There is ONE SINGLE DIP that determines your fate...all I was conveying was that I hoped that ONE wasn't before this 6 week out quit date.
I knew that.
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Rem,
Loot is straight up. I jumped on him pretty hard because I can't read, and I was wrong. When I first quit Loot and chewie were the first guys to welcome me in. It meant a lot because suddenly this quitting wasn't something you had to do by yourself but something that other guys were going through too. It was brotherhood!
Rem, I appreciate what you do here. The site couldn't run like it does without you. I agree with you that this site works because we don't dip. Heck I'm really happy I don't dip. I can think about forever and smile. I'd be bummed if someone in my March group was dipping/smoking/cheating.
I disagree that the site is exclusive for people who don't dip. We're worried someone is gonna feel peer pressure to starting chewing in here??? I thought the purpose was to help get people into a quit group, not run off those who aren't. If you can't come here to quit then what's the point?
Come on Rem, we've all got the same goal!
CCM,
Don't make me look like an a-hole. Stick to your quit. Check out the pics on the home page here. Think about that when you're chewing. Quitting's gonna suck at first, we all went through it, we've all tried something and no one found a way to make it easy. After a couple days it kind of goes away, and this site will make it different than any other quit you've tried. Read, post and most importantly quit. You're ready.
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Cane,
Be strong man. You have a plan and you intend to stick to it...fantastic bud. I did too. Fran, and Loot, and a couple other guys tried to get me to quit sooner much like they have with you. It took the journals of Jenny (look them up) to get me off of my plan. I don't know if you are married, ever want to be, have kids or ever want them, but after I read her journals I could not look myself in the mirror again with a dip of snuff. I had a fresh can of Cope sitting by me...knew I was going to quit in a week and was ready for it...but after reading this poor family's suffering I could not look at myself as a man any longer as long as I had Copenhagen in my lip. I dumped the new can out that night. Logged on and told these fools here, and then emailed my best friend who had also quit. I wrote a note to my wife for her to see when she woke up. The next morning I went to every store on my way to work looking for the fake snuff...and couldn't find it. I went apeshit. The pain fucking sucked. Ended up finding that fake shit after work. It helped. I'm on 30 days now. Nothing special but I'm 30 days clean and that feels pretty good right now. Do what you have to do but come back and use this site...these guys can be assholes but they are here for you when you need them. Hang tough Cane
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Rem,
Loot is straight up. I jumped on him pretty hard because I can't read, and I was wrong. When I first quit Loot and chewie were the first guys to welcome me in. It meant a lot because suddenly this quitting wasn't something you had to do by yourself but something that other guys were going through too. It was brotherhood!
Rem, I appreciate what you do here. The site couldn't run like it does without you. I agree with you that this site works because we don't dip. Heck I'm really happy I don't dip. I can think about forever and smile. I'd be bummed if someone in my March group was dipping/smoking/cheating.
I disagree that the site is exclusive for people who don't dip. We're worried someone is gonna feel peer pressure to starting chewing in here??? I thought the purpose was to help get people into a quit group, not run off those who aren't. If you can't come here to quit then what's the point?
Come on Rem, we've all got the same goal!
CCM,
Don't make me look like an a-hole. Stick to your quit. Check out the pics on the home page here. Think about that when you're chewing. Quitting's gonna suck at first, we all went through it, we've all tried something and no one found a way to make it easy. After a couple days it kind of goes away, and this site will make it different than any other quit you've tried. Read, post and most importantly quit. You're ready.
No. Not peer pressure to start dipping.
Newbies and people who are struggling will see some yahoo posting that he is still dipping and how easy his "quit" is and how wonderful life is, and said newbies and strugglers, who are fighting an internal battle all the time - "Go buy some dip. No, don't buy some dip. I need a dip. No, I don't need a dip. I want a dip. No, I don't want and can't have a dip".
Newbies and people who are struggling will read the posts from the yahoo who still has a fatty in his mouth, and there will be some who say "Fuck it. I'm gonna have a dip. One won't hurt. I'll just wean myself like yahoo is doing". Eventhough the newbie/struggler is already on day 10 and all nicotine is out of his system.
Back to square one.
Like I posted earlier. We are here for the greater good and cannot accomodate everyone from every walk of life. We are too extreme and have our limits, for that to happen.
This is all simply my vote. My opinion. There are 6 other admins who can vote differently than I will. No one person steers this ship.