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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Grizzly addict on June 16, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
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Just found this site, I have lots of reading to do but woke up and decided today was the day. I am unsure how to quit, other than cold turkey. Can a day user here for 9 years, smoked pack a day before that for 7 years. 34 year old male in Dallas TX. Hello group!!
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Welcome.
You will find a great deal of information on what to expect from yourself in the comming days in the link below. It is not all going to be easy, but we are sure you know that. That is what we are here for.
index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Live Chat picks up in the evenings around 6:30 MST, in there you will meet many people like you who have decided to quit, all at various stages.
The Hammer.
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I appreciate it. I am really struggling, wife and daughter and dog in the pool swimming, I am trying to fight this demon inside, alone on fathers day. Afraid to eat much, certainly afraid to have a few beers as. Trying to totally change habits.
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I appreciate it. I am really struggling, wife and daughter and dog in the pool swimming, I am trying to fight this demon inside, alone on fathers day. Afraid to eat much, certainly afraid to have a few beers as. Trying to totally change habits.
Full on water brigade - as much as you can drink - to start flushing the toxins out - Cranberry or pomegranate juice helps also
Get ready for some restless nights -
Go post roll in Sept 13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8274)
check you Inbox(1) upper right
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I appreciate it. I am really struggling, wife and daughter and dog in the pool swimming, I am trying to fight this demon inside, alone on fathers day. Afraid to eat much, certainly afraid to have a few beers as. Trying to totally change habits.
Wecome GA... I was an on and off smoker for 24 years and this site is where I finally figured out how to QUIT and not just stop. (Hint: You didn't have a bad habit. You are an addcit.)
It's a bit slow here on the weekends but chat always picks up in the evenings. That will help you pass time. In the meantime, read, read, read. Read intro threads (the one started by ItsGot2Happen is quit GOLD and will keep you busy for awhile) and Hall of Fame speeches... just keep reading.
There are a lot of quitters in Texas. Glad to have you join us.
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iPad going on charger for an hour, I am going to wash the car or run or something to keep busy. Thanks all, I am struggling big time, emotional even. Fuck this stuff
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Get in the pool and start swimming laps. Go to the gym. Get your heart rate up for a while. Keep drinking water. The exercise will and water will help flush the poison out. Like I said, the Welcome Center has a great deal of information on what to expect.
As was mentioned earlier, pomegranet and cranberry juice are excellent to use to flush your body.
Remember, the anguish you are experiencing now is being caused by an outside substance know to be a poison. It is leaving you and you are addicted to it. You were not born with it in you, and it is contrary to your life. You can, and you will defeat it.
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Freedom is beautiful - but it's a bitch to attain. Earn your freedom. Be stronger than the toxin.
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357 pm central time. Last pinch was 950 pm last night. Going for another walk. 95is degrees out.
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Can't quite figure out the roll call, I will keep trying.
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Nicely done GA, one hour or one minute at a time. You're doing this and you can keep doing this. You said that you're fighting this battle alone inside. Also said you are emotional. Maybe I'm reading too much into your post or maybe I've seen it a thousand times (me included) but sounds like your wife doesn't know you are an addict. Mine didnt know either, I quit and she had no idea what was going on inside me. I couldn't tell her I was fighting the BATTLE OF MY LIFE because she did t know in the first place. I was emotional as hell. I cried, she thought I was losing it. I'd sneak I to KTC and go into chat hovering over the "close window" button in case she walked in. Did I mention I was an emotional mess? It felt like I had lost my best friend. Felt like he had been murdered, taken from me without warning. That was nic's last ditch effort to cling onto me - its a lie, they are all lies. She was no friend, she used me, abused me, made me hide from my family while I got my fix, all day every day. Screw that. If that's you then you can relate. If not then maybe someone else can relate. Either way, welcome to the site, welcome to the family! Fight like your life depends on it because it does. Read the Kern story. Read everything. Read how to post roll then go do it. Jump in, let us help. Let us guide you to a freedom that you don't even know exists because nicotine has ruled your life for YEARS. That should piss you off.
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Welcome to KTC GA. This is the best decision you can make and the best Fathers Day Present you will ever give yourself. Here is a link to help you with the roll posting. index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Check your PM box. I sent you my telephone number. Give me a call and we can talk about quitting and how damned hot it is right now in Central Texas.
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MAde it another hour. Thanks Denny. Dreading dinner, Mexican food and cold beer with family. Dreading the desire for dip after dinner.
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MAde it another hour. Thanks Denny. Dreading dinner, Mexican food and cold beer with family. Dreading the desire for dip after dinner.
Better watch that cold beer, that stuff can kill a good quit really fast. Especially in the first few weeks. I have saw a lot of people cave and most time's, alcohol played a factor in it. If you need a number or anything at all feel free to pm me.
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I am impressed with the support, it is needed and appreciated. Back from dinner, trying to keep busy. Will go walk my lab. 3 hours and 10 minutes to be clean for 24 hours
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723 pm Who is out there. Someone talk shit to me, I need some inspiration. In a fog, can't quite figure out the roll call. Damn iPad. Going to kiss my daughter good night, them white knuckle the couch for a few hours waiting for sleep to set in, which it won't. Fuck you grizzly long cut, fuck you!
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723 pm Who is out there. Someone talk shit to me, I need some inspiration. In a fog, can't quite figure out the roll call. Damn iPad. Going to kiss my daughter good night, them white knuckle the couch for a few hours waiting for sleep to set in, which it won't. Fuck you grizzly long cut, fuck you!
So what you do this father's day? Daughter get you anything good?
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She is almost 4 years old so no gifts, just a pretty smile. I joined the family in the pool and swam for an hour, then walked my neighborhoods sweating this poison out. Thanks
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723 pm Who is out there. Someone talk shit to me, I need some inspiration. In a fog, can't quite figure out the roll call. Damn iPad. Going to kiss my daughter good night, them white knuckle the couch for a few hours waiting for sleep to set in, which it won't. Fuck you grizzly long cut, fuck you!
So what you do this father's day? Daughter get you anything good?
I just replied to your roll in sept. you having an iPad does complicate it a bit, but only slightly. Read this: CHAT (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
Download it, register using your KTC username. It will provide you with hours of inspiration, distraction, and at some point, probably disgust. Bottom line is that it saved my life a few times and it will yours also. If you have a desktop, it's just the upper right LIVE CHAT. Do it.
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723 pm  Who is out there. Someone talk shit to me, I need some inspiration. In a fog, can't quite figure out the roll call. Damn iPad. Going to kiss my daughter good night, them white knuckle the couch for a few hours waiting for sleep to set in, which it won't. Fuck you grizzly long cut, fuck you!
So what you do this father's day? Daughter get you anything good?
I just replied to your roll in sept. you having an iPad does complicate it a bit, but only slightly. Read this: CHAT (http://blog.killthecan.org/2012/05/mobile-chat-now-available/)
Download it, register using your KTC username. It will provide you with hours of inspiration, distraction, and at some point, probably disgust. Bottom line is that it saved my life a few times and it will yours also. If you have a desktop, it's just the upper right LIVE CHAT. Do it.
Yes. Disgust. Absolute pigs in chat! :ph43r:
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Denny I plan on going to my office tomorrow if i think the moring routine and the desk wont drive ,e to take a dip and will try and figure it out. For now, I am just fighting the battle so all please forgive me for not roll calling properly. I am promising you all to not have a ship of snuff Today,I am done.
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She is almost 4 years old so no gifts, just a pretty smile. I joined the family in the pool and swam for an hour, then walked my neighborhoods sweating this poison out. Thanks
That sounds like a pretty good fathers day to me.
I spent the day playing video games with my youngest (4) and practicing guitar with my oldest (8). Then we had a small get together and I relaxed.
The funny thing is that the boys may remember the stuff I did today, but they probably won"t ever know the work I had to put in to stay quit today with them. These battles you are fighting today will pay off shortly. Soon, you won't have these cravings all the time. Soon, you'll be living life not attached to a ghost of a can. Soon, you'll be able to actually enjoy these moments for how perfect they are.
Its so hard at see it sometimes, and sometimes it doesn't seem worth it. But it is.
All this work and fighting feels fucking awesome once you see past the pain. I'm so proud of you. 7 days is freaking awesome. Get through today, and let's make it 8. I'll walk it with ya.
You can do this.
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I quit with you grizzly addict. Getting free of the poison is damn hard work. You gotta want this bad, and it sounds like you do. Embrace the "suck", you only have to do this once. Now is the time, you are ready. Fight and fight hard, it is a daily battle, but it is so worth it.
Reach out if you need a number, mine is free for the taking.
Ryan
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Thank you all. And just to be clear, it will only be 24 hours as of 950 pm.
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Thank you all. And just to be clear, it will only be 24 hours as of 950 pm.
Crystal clear,day 1.
Well done ,you got this.
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Someone talk shit to me.
You must have been one of those fratdicks who got off on a heavy-handed paddle. "Thank you sir, may I have another!?"
"Uhhh, no, I'm good. The whole boner thing is kinda weird."
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Someone talk shit to me.
You must have been one of those fratdicks who got off on a heavy-handed paddle. "Thank you sir, may I have another!?"
"Uhhh, no, I'm good. The whole boner thing is kinda weird."
Of all the people to have talk shit to you, it ends up smokeyg. This could be very fun. 'Popcorn'
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Alright Grizz, I know this sucks right now but you have to gut this out. We know something that you don't...that you CAN do this. We've all done it and yes, it sucked and our skin crawled but we survived and you will too.
Take a deep breath, do some push-ups, drink lots of water, go have sex with your wife...do anything to stay away from nicotine.
Speaking of your wife, if she doesn't know what's going on then you might consider telling her.
There's lots of experienced quitters around here and they're all willing to help you in any way they can but you're the one who has to do the heavy lifting.
I'm willing to bet on this Father's Day your children think you're the Best Dad ever. Prove them right. Be the man they think you are.
I'm quit with you today.
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Alright Grizz, I know this sucks right now but you have to gut this out. We know something that you don't...that you CAN do this. We've all done it and yes, it sucked and our skin crawled but we survived and you will too.
Take a deep breath, do some push-ups, drink lots of water, go have sex with your wife...do anything to stay away from nicotine.
Speaking of your wife, if she doesn't know what's going on then you might consider telling her.
There's lots of experienced quitters around here and they're all willing to help you in any way they can but you're the one who has to do the heavy lifting.
I'm willing to bet on this Father's Day your children think you're the Best Dad ever. Prove them right. Be the man they think you are.
I'm quit with you today.
Solid....gold. damned nice post.
Welcome to clean Grizz.
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I am fucking dying here. Smokey g, fuck yourself unless you mean well. Moderators, unbelievable support, can't even imagine the love and supporti am feeling from total strangers. . Scott, special thanks to you sir. 50 minutes to 24 hours.
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I am fucking dying here. Smokey g, fuck yourself unless you mean well. Moderators, unbelievable support, can't even imagine the love and supporti am feeling from total strangers. . Scott, special thanks to you sir. 50 minutes to 24 hours.
come on over and jump into the live chat. It is another tool to help. Get it there scream, curse, call us all names, just spill it to fight through it. Hell I know I did and it helps above and beyond.
strength in numbers my friend
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iPad issue. Will live chat from office sometime tomorrow I guess. I am fucking starving by the way, normal?
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iPad issue. Will live chat from office sometime tomorrow I guess. I am fucking starving by the way, normal?
If I were a specialist I would say normal, yes. But it is not hunger. Like I went through it is your mind telling you to have something in your mouth. Keep drinking the water and/or cranberry juice as it will help flush out the nicotene from your system. Try to exercise to get the heart rate up to also help get it out (will also keep you occupied).
Your body is fighting so it will go through stages of hunger (just make sure you feed it the right foods), stages of tiredness and/or insomnia. This is all normal and will be so worth it.
you can do this, just keep pushing forward and never look back.
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I thank you all. At 950 I will post my 24 hour pat myself on the ass post. Wife is being supportive dog is wanting to pick up bumpers, daughter is asleep. Life is good folks. I want a dip.
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I thank you all. At 950 I will post my 24 hour pat myself on the ass post. Wife is being supportive dog is wanting to pick up bumpers, daughter is asleep. Life is good folks. I want a dip.
There is a difference between "want" and "need". Your body thinks it needs nicotine. Your brain knows it is lying.
Go with your brain. Control your actions.
You can do this.
Proud of you bud.
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10 until 24. Brad you then man. You got me here.
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FUCK you grizzly long cut wintergreen. You no longer own me you little bitch. It's been 24 hours since I have tasted your nasty ass. FUCK YOU GRIZZLY I have a life to live, I have a daughter to raise, I have my healtH to maintain. FUCK YOU.
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FUCK you grizzly long cut wintergreen. You no longer own me you little bitch. It's been 24 hours since I have tasted your nasty ass. FUCK YOU GRIZZLY I have a life to live, I have a daughter to raise, I have my healtH to maintain. FUCK YOU.
Nice job bad ass. Now lets quit again tomorrow. Embrace this quit. OWN it.
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Welcome to the September group. From the looks of it you should fit right in. I quit with you right now.
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I am fighting like never before. I need to know what day it lets up. 2 or 10????? Fuck you pussy bear.
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I am fighting like never before. I need to know what day it lets up. 2 or 10????? Fuck you pussy bear.
what to expect when you're quitting (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Can't sleep, no kidding. Rolling around begging for a dip of snuff. Turned down sex, sick fucking dog here. Pouring a drink, no fear of dip tonight as snuff is gone. Going to get drunk and go to bed. What time are folks here in am? Help'!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can't sleep, no kidding. Rolling around begging for a dip of snuff. Turned down sex, sick fucking dog here. Pouring a drink, no fear of dip tonight as snuff is gone. Going to get drunk and go to bed. What time are folks here in am? Help'!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow. First, welcome. Second, great job making it 24 hours.
Tomorrow is a new day and a new fight. The first few days will suck more than imaginable. I spent a lot of that time trying to sleep (left work early when possible) to pass the time. As these guys have said, it takes about 72 hours for the Nic to get our of your blood. Drinking a pool of water and exercising to get the heart rate going will speed the process.
We'll talk about days 4 on day four. For now, focus on now. You're doing just fine!
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Thank you evil. Still stalling waiting hoping fighting. Fuck you grizzly
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I've heard slamming your nuts in a drawer is a fairly, uh, effective form of distraction.
I've never tried it.
Bet it works though.
Hang tough brother... We're with you today.
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And don't turn down sex...somewhere around here is a thread that does a much better job explaining this but basically sex is a fantastic substitute for your deprived and rewiring brain. It will help get you through this. Or use alternatives like apple jack's suggestion of slamming your nuts in a drawer. Heard gay porn gets your mind off dip too. But I don't know. Just heard that. :ph43r:
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Rolling around bored wished I could dip snuff. Fuck you mother fucker just because I can't sleep fu. Pls help me.
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Go read HOF speeches until you can't read anymore. There are a lot of intro's to read as well. If you can't sleep might as well strengthen your quit. Don't wish you could have a dip, be happy that you are not a slave to the can anymore. The sooner you get angry at UST for stealing your life the better off you will be. Some of that comes with time but a shift in your mindset will help things go easier.
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I am fucking dying here. Smokey g, fuck yourself unless you mean well.
Trust me, I don't mean well. My quit is fueled off of the failures of others. While I don't have a lot of friends, I have a lot of laughs.
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Go read HOF speeches until you can't read anymore. There are a lot of intro's to read as well. If you can't sleep might as well strengthen your quit. Don't wish you could have a dip, be happy that you are not a slave to the can anymore. The sooner you get angry at UST for stealing your life the better off you will be. Some of that comes with time but a shift in your mindset will help things go easier.
Great idea! Read this... Start to finish! It's gold.
index.php?showtopic=7677 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7677)
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You're not dying, unless you're trying to rid yourself of gray hairs, or trying to get the curtains to match the drapes.
You aren't DIEING either because you are quitting dip.
You're LIVING.
I know its tough to hear and believe but dip sucks and is a lie. There is nothing pleasurable about it.
You don't love it and you don't need it. Never have and never did.
You're addicted to it. Ive been quit 375 days and so am I. So is everyone else on this site, even guys quit for multiple years. Their might be a few dick bags who say they'd aren't addicted to it who roll through here from time to time. But they are wrong. We are all addicts. If not we wouldn't be here. We've just chosen to free ourselves from the chains that nicotine shackled on us.
When I say you don't need dip, I don't say it as a rah rah cheerleader. I say it as a scientific fact. How else do you explain how you "survived" in life before you started dipping, or the hundreds of people you know who live happy, productive lives not addicted to nicotine? How do they do it. Are the "special"? Nope. They are normal. WE are the ones who fucked ourselves over by falling victim to nicotine addiction.
You want someone to talk shit to you, I can do it 7 days a week, as I get off on flapping my gums. (They are pink and healthy now too).
You don't need anyone to talk shit to you right now though. You need 2 things.
1.). Keep your mind occupied because dipping is all u can think about.
2.) Get educated. Not on how to post roll (every crouton who come here figures that out) but on how nicotine addiction works, so you can beat its ass.
You can knock both of these 2 things out at the same time by reading.
Reading will keep your mind occupied, but dont fucking read a superman comic book. Read up on your enemy, nicotine.
Read everything on this site for both education and inspiration but also read off this site.
I was recommended a book by skoal monster (long time bad ass quitter) that helped me tremendously. "The easy way to quit smoking by Alan Carr".
It talks about smoking but is a plethora of knowledge on debunking a ton of myths about nicotine. It tells you why it doesn't enhance fun, relax you, help you concentrate, relieve boredom...and more.
It educates you on how after every time you spit out a dip a little clock in your head starts ticking....tick tick tick until finally your brain says "hey asshole, its been like an hour since you poisioned me. Lets do this shit again"
THAT is what addiction is. Learing that the ticking clock is the root of all your problems. That CLOCK is telling you to load up you lip again. That CLOCK is what your relieving. Its not true stress you're relieving, its the stress of that fucking ticking clock. That's what's creating the stress, the boredom, the illusions that dip/nicotine is actually doing anything for you.
Fact of the matter is, it is not.
Dip fills NO voids in your life...it CREATES them.
Dipping is one of the most disgusting addictions a person can indulge in. Freeing yourself from suck nasty ass behavior will be the best and most rewarding things you can do. Stuffing posion in your lip and spitting brown juice into a soda bottle. Who the fuck does that???? Ummm, I did for 15 years. I hid it from my wife too. Lied right to her fucking face, time after time afte time.
Dip made me a bad husband, a bad father, a bad friend...a bad human being. I knew it too...but I still could not stop.
Until I came here.
I came here and got educated and got support. That's an unbeatable combo if you choose to use it.
I know a lot of people will offer you support. This site is the shit for that, and I think you've seen that already.
But DO NOT underestimate the education part. I think it gets overlooked a little bit here.
You have to think of nic as your enemy now. What's the best way to beat an enemy who's been beating your ass for years? You need to get to know your enemy better. How it works, its weak points, its strong points, how others are beating it, what things to look for, what things to ignore, its habbits, its make up, its ingredients, etc...
You also need to learn that quitting it will not be easy or come without a fight.
It will be HARD. When it gets hard, don't go flacid...you go harder. READ, jump in chat, lean on your ktc brothers and sisters, FIGHT. Stay busy and keep moving. A still target is easy to hit. A moving one...not so much.
Okay, I think I've rambled long enough.
Bottom line is, you WILL do this and we WILL help you. It will suck in the beginning but when you make it to the hof, if you don't feel better I will fly to Texas and you can kick me in the junk with pointy cowboy boots.
It won't always be easy , but it will ALWAYS be worth it.
You got this shit.
Diesel2112
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Can't sleep, no kidding. Rolling around begging for a dip of snuff. Turned down sex, sick fucking dog here. Pouring a drink, no fear of dip tonight as snuff is gone. Going to get drunk and go to bed. What time are folks here in am? Help'!!!!!!!!!!!
Theres usually someone around 24/7 bro. Hang in there! It does get better, I promise! If you don't see a reply, you can always log into chat and see if someone is there. PM me and my number is yours, I keep odd hours.......
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Can't sleep, no kidding. Rolling around begging for a dip of snuff. Turned down sex, sick fucking dog here. Pouring a drink, no fear of dip tonight as snuff is gone. Going to get drunk and go to bed. What time are folks here in am? Help'!!!!!!!!!!!
Theres usually someone around 24/7 bro. Hang in there! It does get better, I promise! If you don't see a reply, you can always log into chat and see if someone is there. PM me and my number is yours, I keep odd hours.......
Roam keeps odd hours! 'crackup' that's a fucking understatement! Only person I know that's odder is me. Roamy kept me quit a year ago by chatting all night long. My numbers there for the asking also, just pm me. (Look at the time of my post)
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Grizz, you're going through "the suck" pretty hard but I assure you it's no worse than most others on this site. Thousands of your fellow quitters here have gone before you. You will be okay.
My first few days I sweat through the sheets and even woke one morning in the fetal position on the floor with the shakes. Think of that in terms of poison for a moment. Would you ingest a substance that leaves you like that willingly? I say, not any more.
It's easy to think that maybe you'll always feel like this and it's somehow not worth it. Put those thoughts out of your mind. First, it isn't true. You will get better every day. It gets easier. You can do this. You are 48 hours from the chemical being out of your system. Gut it out, bro.
Post your promise. Quit for the day by keeping your promise. Repeat tomorrow.
Simple.
You got this. I believe in you!
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I am fighting like never before. I need to know what day it lets up. 2 or 10????? Fuck you pussy bear.
what to expect when you're quitting (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
You're going through hell, keep going it gets better! Trust me, a little over a year ago I was you. I did it, so I know that YOU CAN TOO!
Zip your dick in your zipper....still want a dip?
You got this Mister!!!
ODAAT and NAFAR
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
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I am fighting like never before. I need to know what day it lets up. 2 or 10????? Fuck you pussy bear.
what to expect when you're quitting (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
You're going through hell, keep going it gets better! Trust me, a little over a year ago I was you. I did it, so I know that YOU CAN TOO!
Zip your dick in your zipper....still want a dip?
You got this Mister!!!
ODAAT and NAFAR
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
'what's up' is your body and brain fighting for you to go back on your decision and your word to quit - its called the SUCK
put your name on the roll and be a man of your word
drown it with water and go workout to sweat it out
You poisoned your body/brain for years so don't expect to right the ship over night - time to retrain both to work without nicotine!
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Hear hear Diesel! Grizz, that is exactly right. Read read read. Then go sweat, hydrate, and flush. You got it Grizz. I went through what you're going through now 1 week ago. And it's 1000% better today than it was a week ago. Just get through this first part and it really does get better. You've got it in you; you've got what it takes. Now just do it.
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Made it through, changing routine today. Thanks all. Fuck the can.
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Made it through, changing routine today. Thanks all. Fuck the can.
Welcome brother. That's 1 day of freedom. For 1 day you haven't given your hard earned money to something that's killing you. Something thats sucking the life right out of you. For 1 day you've been taking your life back from somethingthing that does only one thing well. Take. take, and take.
To be fair let me make a list of things it does for you!
I'M SORRY! I'VE GOT NOTHING! IT DOES NOTHING FOR YOU. Good work brother,, lets take another day of freedom, I quit with you.
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It's funny, I used to panic if I didn't have a can on me. Now I am panicking if there is a can near.....what a change a day can make.
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It's funny, I used to panic if I didn't have a can on me. Now I am panicking if there is a can near.....what a change a day can make.
When you get a chance brother read my hof speech, it's right in my signature line. I think it will help you today.
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great speach, thanks. I appreciate all of the support out there. This day 2 is a real bitch
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great speach, thanks. I appreciate all of the support out there. This day 2 is a real bitch
Yeah, brother, it will be. Know what though?... You did day 1. You got through that bastard of a day and you're moving forward. That, sir, is badass. I kept my foggy butt so busy for the first 3 or 4 days I was putty. We're with you man... Quitting right alongside you. If it gets too bad, I repeat...
Nuts...
Drawer...
Slam...
Last resort only... Y'know, unless you go for that kinda thing :)
Quit on bro...
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Stay close to the site. As close as you can. This place has saved many a Quitter.
If you're hurting, hit up LIVE CHAT in the upper right corner. There's bound to be someone in there.
Just remember - You can DO this!
That feeling you're having is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Don't give in. Don't give up.
Stay strong.
-Nolaq - Day 1,190
If I can, you can.
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day 3 easier than day 2? I am fighting and i will get through today.
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day 3 easier than day 2? I am fighting and i will get through today.
I'm going to lay it out there for you. Not to discourage you, but just to prepare you.
At this stage, you can't really compare Day 2 to Day 3, to Day 45, to Day 458. All you have is the right here, right now to worry about.
It sucks. We know.
It gets better. Trust us.
It takes a while. Sorry.
Think of it like this- You poisoned yourself for how many years? Two days isn't going to 'cure you'. You are going to feel like shit and be completely worthless for a while. For me, it was about the first 250 days or so. It wasn't until then that I actually started functioning like a grown up.
It's different for everyone. Look for the little victories, that will keep you strong. With every passing crave, you are winning!
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day 3 easier than day 2? I am fighting and i will get through today.
I'm going to lay it out there for you. Not to discourage you, but just to prepare you.
At this stage, you can't really compare Day 2 to Day 3, to Day 45, to Day 458. All you have is the right here, right now to worry about.
It sucks. We know.
It gets better. Trust us.
It takes a while. Sorry.
Think of it like this- You poisoned yourself for how many years? Two days isn't going to 'cure you'. You are going to feel like shit and be completely worthless for a while. For me, it was about the first 250 days or so. It wasn't until then that I actually started functioning like a grown up.
It's different for everyone. Look for the little victories, that will keep you strong. With every passing crave, you are winning!
That's some cold hard truth right there.
I struggled with that more than you can possibly know.
Always wanting to know, "when will I be better????".
Truth is, nobody knows, but I can sure as hell tell you it will be longer than 3 days, or even 30.
Not trying to scare you, just being honest.
Their is no "release date".
You fuck up, get a duo, go to jail...it sucks, but at least they tell you, "On such and such a date you will be out".
With this shit, their is no "end date" where magic unicorns come along sweep you up, fly you around and you're cured. It will not happen.
It does get easier though. You just have to take it one step at a time. Eventually you will feel better.
Not to toot my own horn, but go to words of wisdom and read my '"tend your garden". It is hart felt and TRUE of how I progressed.
You gotta find your groove buddy. I know its easier said than done, but I also know its gonna take more than 2-3 days to find It.
WE fucked ourselves for years by using that shit, but we finally
wised up and decided to quit.
Its not easy....its just not. It is possible though and the freedom on the other side is beyond description. Its one of the most beautiful feelings you will EVER have.
But we cannot lie....getting there is a MOTHER FUCKER and we have no idea when you will arrive.
All we can tell you is that if you follow the program you WILL get there, and we will be with you the entire time.
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day 3 easier than day 2? I am fighting and i will get through today.
I'm going to lay it out there for you. Not to discourage you, but just to prepare you.
At this stage, you can't really compare Day 2 to Day 3, to Day 45, to Day 458. All you have is the right here, right now to worry about.
It sucks. We know.
It gets better. Trust us.
It takes a while. Sorry.
Think of it like this- You poisoned yourself for how many years? Two days isn't going to 'cure you'. You are going to feel like shit and be completely worthless for a while. For me, it was about the first 250 days or so. It wasn't until then that I actually started functioning like a grown up.
It's different for everyone. Look for the little victories, that will keep you strong. With every passing crave, you are winning!
That's some cold hard truth right there.
I struggled with that more than you can possibly know.
Always wanting to know, "when will I be better????".
Truth is, nobody knows, but I can sure as hell tell you it will be longer than 3 days, or even 30.
Not trying to scare you, just being honest.
Their is no "release date".
You fuck up, get a duo, go to jail...it sucks, but at least they tell you, "On such and such a date you will be out".
With this shit, their is no "end date" where magic unicorns come along sweep you up, fly you around and you're cured. It will not happen.
It does get easier though. You just have to take it one step at a time. Eventually you will feel better.
Not to toot my own horn, but go to words of wisdom and read my '"tend your garden". It is hart felt and TRUE of how I progressed.
You gotta find your groove buddy. I know its easier said than done, but I also know its gonna take more than 2-3 days to find It.
WE fucked ourselves for years by using that shit, but we finally
wised up and decided to quit.
Its not easy....its just not. It is possible though and the freedom on the other side is beyond description. Its one of the most beautiful feelings you will EVER have.
But we cannot lie....getting there is a MOTHER FUCKER and we have no idea when you will arrive.
All we can tell you is that if you follow the program you WILL get there, and we will be with you the entire time.
Just to add one thing to Diesel - guys like him, and me - WE are here to help you along the way. We keep coming back just to help pick you up when you don't wanna. Help keep you straight when you wanna turn. Keep the cat shit outta your mouth by reminding you every day - Dipping fixes NOTHING.
The only thing nicotine does is reduce the syptoms of withdrawl from nicotine.
Think about that.
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day 3 easier than day 2? I am fighting and i will get through today.
I'm going to lay it out there for you. Not to discourage you, but just to prepare you.
At this stage, you can't really compare Day 2 to Day 3, to Day 45, to Day 458. All you have is the right here, right now to worry about.
It sucks. We know.
It gets better. Trust us.
It takes a while. Sorry.
Think of it like this- You poisoned yourself for how many years? Two days isn't going to 'cure you'. You are going to feel like shit and be completely worthless for a while. For me, it was about the first 250 days or so. It wasn't until then that I actually started functioning like a grown up.
It's different for everyone. Look for the little victories, that will keep you strong. With every passing crave, you are winning!
That's some cold hard truth right there.
I struggled with that more than you can possibly know.
Always wanting to know, "when will I be better????".
Truth is, nobody knows, but I can sure as hell tell you it will be longer than 3 days, or even 30.
Not trying to scare you, just being honest.
Their is no "release date".
You fuck up, get a duo, go to jail...it sucks, but at least they tell you, "On such and such a date you will be out".
With this shit, their is no "end date" where magic unicorns come along sweep you up, fly you around and you're cured. It will not happen.
It does get easier though. You just have to take it one step at a time. Eventually you will feel better.
Not to toot my own horn, but go to words of wisdom and read my '"tend your garden". It is hart felt and TRUE of how I progressed.
You gotta find your groove buddy. I know its easier said than done, but I also know its gonna take more than 2-3 days to find It.
WE fucked ourselves for years by using that shit, but we finally
wised up and decided to quit.
Its not easy....its just not. It is possible though and the freedom on the other side is beyond description. Its one of the most beautiful feelings you will EVER have.
But we cannot lie....getting there is a MOTHER FUCKER and we have no idea when you will arrive.
All we can tell you is that if you follow the program you WILL get there, and we will be with you the entire time.
Just to add one thing to Diesel - guys like him, and me - WE are here to help you along the way. We keep coming back just to help pick you up when you don't wanna. Help keep you straight when you wanna turn. Keep the cat shit outta your mouth by reminding you every day - Dipping fixes NOTHING.
The only thing nicotine does is reduce the syptoms of withdrawl from nicotine.
Think about that.
Life saving sage words from 2 badass rockstar quitters there Grizzly.
Heed and live.
ODAAT and NAFAR!!! 'bang head'
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Thanks all, it feels like the day is going soooooo slow.....
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I am going to make it to 48 hours.
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I am going to make it to 48 hours.
Of course you will. And you know how? Second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour...just like the rest of us.
Don't think about tomorrow, next week, or next month...just think about right now.
Need anything, holla. The Diesel is always on call.
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I am going to make it to 48 hours.
Of course you will. And you know how? Second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour...just like the rest of us.
Don't think about tomorrow, next week, or next month...just think about right now.
Need anything, holla. The Diesel is always on call.
I hate the poison. I hated it this morning, I hated it for lunch. I hated it for dinner and I'm going to hate it until nighty night. I hate it so much i'm going to wake up tomorrow and start all over hating it. I say you might as well join me tomorrow. You got nothing better to do. I know diesel's going to join me. nighty night.
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I am going to make it to 48 hours.
Hey GA, Your doing a fantastic job, I just got through the 72 hour period: the motherfucking suck, it was just like they said a FOG, I was feeling fucking high, because I was finally keeping that fuckin poisonous shit out of my system that my body and mind depended on for all these years. You got this, Everyone is proud of you. You got today!!! Like everyone said simplify it, Hour by hour or minute by minute.
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Thanks all. I will post at 48 hours clean unless I miraculously fall asleep.
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Bad assed quitters on this site. I have been quit for three weeks now, and some of the biggest quit boost I am getting right now is not wanting to go back to day 1 or 2... If I cave I will end up dead or back at day 1 AND 2... Never again for any reason! You are almost through the worst part. It will get better, and then it will suck only to get better again and repeat... I am almost positive that it will never get as bad as day 1-3 again, unless you cave and have to repeat them. You have quit for the two hardest days in a row.... Quit again tommorow, and repeat. You can do this if you choose to... I am proud as hell to quit with you today.
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I am going to make it to 48 hours.
Of course you will. And you know how? Second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour...just like the rest of us.
Don't think about tomorrow, next week, or next month...just think about right now.
Need anything, holla. The Diesel is always on call.
I hate the poison. I hated it this morning, I hated it for lunch. I hated it for dinner and I'm going to hate it until nighty night. I hate it so much i'm going to wake up tomorrow and start all over hating it. I say you might as well join me tomorrow. You got nothing better to do. I know diesel's going to join me. nighty night.
That's one of my most powerful tools: a deep hatred for nicotine and everything it did to keep me down. The shame, lies, struggles, time lost that I'll never get back. I hate it for that. Nurture the hate and channel that energy into your resolve. Hate it.
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48 hours. Fuck you nicotine. I made it 2 days. Now, I will make it another and another.
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48 hours. Fuck you nicotine. I made it 2 days. Now, I will make it another and another.
Atta boy. Make nic your bitch. 'tough'
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48 hours. Fuck you nicotine. I made it 2 days. Now, I will make it another and another.
Atta boy Grizz!! So awesome to be quit with tough guys like you.
Just think about how great you're going to feel once all that poison is out of your body. That crap that's been killing you all these years: you're ridding yourself of it. You're going to be free. Day-by-day, hour-by-hour, moment-by-moment. I quit with you in this moment bud. You got this.
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Jr. Thanks man. Where is you farm? Read your quit, your a bad ass. I can't sleep for the life of me. Headed to the shower then bed I guess. Logging off but staying strong, I promise.
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Almost 50 hours. Tomorrow can we talk about day 3 and what comes with it??? I am a fucking pussy I guess but need a day to day expectancy.
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Almost 50 hours. Tomorrow can we talk about day 3 and what comes with it??? I am a fucking pussy I guess but need a day to day expectancy.
Come into chat. You don't have to be clear headed. The mental capacity of a 12 year old boy is all that's required.
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Almost 50 hours. Tomorrow can we talk about day 3 and what comes with it??? I am a fucking pussy I guess but need a day to day expectancy.
Hey GA,
I'm sure everyone's first 72-96 hours are different. But like everyone has been saying drinks lots of water, get a walk or run in too. Get something for that mouth(seeds, mints, jerky, no fucking dip)Get the blood flowing and get the rest of the poison out of your system. The Fog I had was like being high, my skin felt cold but inside it felt like I had sunburn. I had gotten a couple showers throughout the day. that made me feel better. I went out with some friends for dinner. try to keep my body and mind occupied, so the suck wasn't so bad. You are killing it, you are not a Pussy!!! You are owning it by seeking help and utilizing some of best advice and support that I have ever seen in my life. Day to day, hour to hour, Minute to minute, you will beat it, together we will beat it, I will quit with you all day today!!
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Thanks All. Going to bed I hope.
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Almost 50 hours. Tomorrow can we talk about day 3 and what comes with it??? I am a fucking pussy I guess but need a day to day expectancy.
Oh no. I'm the biggest pussy to ever come to ktc. Don't be challenging my status.
What can you expect for day 3? Who the fuck knows. Probably a lot like day 12.
It takes 3 days to get all the nicotine out of your system which is a good thing, so their will be no nicotine in your blood for the first time in years. But the head games will start, or continue.
Look bro. There's no blue print for this shit. Theres no chart that says on day 1,2,3, and 4 you will feel like A,B,C, and D. It just doesn't work that way.
If you can make it through day one, you can make it through day 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc...one day at a time.
Some days will be really tough and some days you will feel really good. Their will be funks, fogs, and other bumps in the road you will have to navigate, but you can do it. If a pussy like me can do it. ANYBODY can.
The ONE thing however, that NOBODY can tell you, is how you will feel day to day (trust me I asked).
Hang in their bro. You're in the heat of the battle. Just gotta keel fighting.
We are here for you.
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Great job grizzly. Don't look now, but you are doing it man. This will be the third day of freedom brother. For 3 days you haven't went down to the corner store and bought something that is doing nothing good for you. Spending your hard earned money on something that is slowly killing you, taking your integrity.
Today probably won't be much better than yesterday, but I will say this. My worst day without the can is better than my best day with one. Screw the can, screw tobacco, screw it, screw it, and screw it. We don't need it never did. Lets do this for one more day. If we made it yesterday we can surely make it today. Nothing different about today. Quit with you brother.
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How's it hanging today GA? You going NKOTB and "Hangin tough'?
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pretty foggy, i am going to do this however. Hour by hour, i am fucking done.
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pretty foggy, i am going to do this however. Hour by hour, i am fucking done.
I quit with you today bro. You got this.
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pretty foggy, i am going to do this however. Hour by hour, i am fucking done.
I quit with you today bro. You got this.
'oh yeah'
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I keep telling myself that after 72 hours the physically shit stops, then its mind games from there on out. I think that gives me peace knowing that at 9:50 pm tonight, all nicotine will be out of my veins
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pretty foggy, i am going to do this however. Hour by hour, i am fucking done.
Once that fog lifts you're gonna see that it's a BEAUTIFUL day out Grizz!! Power through this last stretch. Like you said before you'll be nicotine-free!!!!
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pretty foggy, i am going to do this however. Hour by hour, i am fucking done.
Once that fog lifts you're gonna see that it's a BEAUTIFUL day out Grizz!! Power through this last stretch. Like you said before you'll be nicotine-free!!!!
Follow DennyX. He saved my life 390 days ago. That's a fact. 'bang head'
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GA... The way you are powering through this is inspiring. Just want you to know I'm following you closely. Your quit is strong and I love seeing it!
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GA... The way you are powering through this is inspiring. Just want you to know I'm following you closely. Your quit is strong and I love seeing it!
1 day at a time. If not, 1 hour at a time. If not, 1 minute at a time. If not, 1 breath at a time.
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thanks all, about to hop in my truck and head home from the office, major trigger time. Throw in the gum, turn up the tunes and roll down the windows in this 100 degree heat and fight this mother fucker
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Each time you beat down a trigger it loses power over you. Embrace that trigger 'cause when you beat it you are winning. It gets easier the more triggers you break.
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I beat that trigger down. Just finished dinner and usually walk out back with the dog and have a huge wad of dip. Never again because I am done, I am quit.
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I made it to 72 hours, never once thought I could/would make it here. Special thanks to wastepanel, you sir have saved my life. Fuck the nic bitch, we are all stronger than her.
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I made it to 72 hours, never once thought I could/would make it here. Special thanks to wastepanel, you sir have saved my life. Fuck the nic bitch, we are all stronger than her.
Stay close bro. We have your medicine.
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Will do. I am just getting started with the quit
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Lets talk tomorrow about first dental visit. I have put it off for years, thinking have a cavity or two. Terrified of going because I haven't been in years. Want to wait 30 days until mouth heals, but don't want to wait too long if cavities. Anyway, I am not going that far tonight, hour by hour. I fucking made it 72!
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Lets talk tomorrow about first dental visit. I have put it off for years, thinking have a cavity or two. Terrified of going because I haven't been in years. Want to wait 30 days until mouth heals, but don't want to wait too long if cavities. Anyway, I am not going that far tonight, hour by hour. I fucking made it 72!
Cavities won't go anywhere. People go for years with untreated cavities. A few weeks to let your mouth heal a little wont hurt. If you have pain in a tooth that's different but don't worry about some untreated cavities.
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Ok. The quit is my priority now. I am quit.
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Lets talk tomorrow about first dental visit. I have put it off for years, thinking have a cavity or two. Terrified of going because I haven't been in years. Want to wait 30 days until mouth heals, but don't want to wait too long if cavities. Anyway, I am not going that far tonight, hour by hour. I fucking made it 72!
Cavities won't go anywhere. People go for years with untreated cavities. A few weeks to let your mouth heal a little wont hurt. If you have pain in a tooth that's different but don't worry about some untreated cavities.
A little different take on this. Simply said, Go to the Dentist.
Cavities get worse and will go from simply needing a filling to restore to needing a crown root canal in a relatively short period of time. However, that's not why I say go to the dentist.
You need all the help you can get from lots of different people and a dentist is one that can have a positive impact. At a minimum go get your teeth cleaned. There might be some minor discomfort but its short lived and your mouth will feel even better. Tell the hygienist about your quit. Most are very encouraging and helpful.
You should have your mouth assessed and possibly a cancer screening. The dentist can do that very quickly visually. Tell him/her that you recently quit using chewing tobacco.
You are facing head-on something that you've avoided dealing with for a long time. That's quitting. At some point you need to face the dental/medical aspects too. You don't have to today but don't put it off too long. My suggestion would be to make an appointment now, it could be several weeks before they can see you.
Keep kickin' ass. You're doing great. Remember this isn't a linear progression in the sense that the further you get from your quit-day the better you will always feel. You will have tougher days than others. The great news is that you are through the first 72 hours and that means most (if not all) of the physical withdrawal is done.
From here on you're just a mental case like the rest of us.
:D
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72+,,,, Great job grizzly. Keep posting roll and keeping your word. If you haven't done so yet go outside and take a good look. See the world without poison running through your veins.
It's all going to be mental now my friend. Quitting comes from deep within. It's going to get easier one day at a time. Not saying it's going to be easy, by no means. I am saying that every +1 it will get easier. You will have some bad days and good ones, but guess what? You still only have to worry about today.
Leahy made a good post on your dental visit. I concur. Go get checked. No, you don't have to right away, but you will feel better the quicker you do go. It will take a couple visits to get what you need done anyway. When I went to the dentist for the first time in 20 years he was very supportive. It is nice to hear the dentist say that you are doing the right thing, good job and congratulation. It's better than hearing, you need to quit. Do you know that causes cancer. Do you know that causes gum desease. Have you ever seen somebody with mouth cancer. The list goes on. Probably why I didn't go for 20 plus. I digress,,, I quit with you my friend.
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Lets talk tomorrow about first dental visit. I have put it off for years, thinking have a cavity or two. Terrified of going because I haven't been in years. Want to wait 30 days until mouth heals, but don't want to wait too long if cavities. Anyway, I am not going that far tonight, hour by hour. I fucking made it 72!
Cavities won't go anywhere. People go for years with untreated cavities. A few weeks to let your mouth heal a little wont hurt. If you have pain in a tooth that's different but don't worry about some untreated cavities.
A little different take on this. Simply said, Go to the Dentist.
Cavities get worse and will go from simply needing a filling to restore to needing a crown root canal in a relatively short period of time. However, that's not why I say go to the dentist.
You need all the help you can get from lots of different people and a dentist is one that can have a positive impact. At a minimum go get your teeth cleaned. There might be some minor discomfort but its short lived and your mouth will feel even better. Tell the hygienist about your quit. Most are very encouraging and helpful.
You should have your mouth assessed and possibly a cancer screening. The dentist can do that very quickly visually. Tell him/her that you recently quit using chewing tobacco.
You are facing head-on something that you've avoided dealing with for a long time. That's quitting. At some point you need to face the dental/medical aspects too. You don't have to today but don't put it off too long. My suggestion would be to make an appointment now, it could be several weeks before they can see you.
Keep kickin' ass. You're doing great. Remember this isn't a linear progression in the sense that the further you get from your quit-day the better you will always feel. You will have tougher days than others. The great news is that you are through the first 72 hours and that means most (if not all) of the physical withdrawal is done.
From here on you're just a mental case like the rest of us.
:D
I second... Just do it. Call and set up an appointment today. I went a few years b/w visits once, and my fears were worse than reality.
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Lets talk tomorrow about first dental visit. I have put it off for years, thinking have a cavity or two. Terrified of going because I haven't been in years. Want to wait 30 days until mouth heals, but don't want to wait too long if cavities. Anyway, I am not going that far tonight, hour by hour. I fucking made it 72!
Cavities won't go anywhere. People go for years with untreated cavities. A few weeks to let your mouth heal a little wont hurt. If you have pain in a tooth that's different but don't worry about some untreated cavities.
A little different take on this. Simply said, Go to the Dentist.
Cavities get worse and will go from simply needing a filling to restore to needing a crown root canal in a relatively short period of time. However, that's not why I say go to the dentist.
You need all the help you can get from lots of different people and a dentist is one that can have a positive impact. At a minimum go get your teeth cleaned. There might be some minor discomfort but its short lived and your mouth will feel even better. Tell the hygienist about your quit. Most are very encouraging and helpful.
You should have your mouth assessed and possibly a cancer screening. The dentist can do that very quickly visually. Tell him/her that you recently quit using chewing tobacco.
You are facing head-on something that you've avoided dealing with for a long time. That's quitting. At some point you need to face the dental/medical aspects too. You don't have to today but don't put it off too long. My suggestion would be to make an appointment now, it could be several weeks before they can see you.
Keep kickin' ass. You're doing great. Remember this isn't a linear progression in the sense that the further you get from your quit-day the better you will always feel. You will have tougher days than others. The great news is that you are through the first 72 hours and that means most (if not all) of the physical withdrawal is done.
From here on you're just a mental case like the rest of us.
:D
I second... Just do it. Call and set up an appointment today. I went a few years b/w visits once, and my fears were worse than reality.
You know the weird thing about dentists and their assistants...they are some of the nicest fucking people I have ever met.
I used to go and get my teeth cleaned pretty regular when I was dippin. Not once did I mention I dipped, but they always would say, "man, take it easy on the brushing of those lower teeth, your brushing your gums away". Sure...that's what was doing it.
When I finally did quit I was scared as hell but decided to come clean and tell them my dirty little 15 year secret.
They damn lady was was nice as hell about it. Told me it took a lot of courage to fess up to what I had been doing and applauded me for quitting.
They checked my shit out for cancer and what not and said, everything was good, "but that does not give you the green light to go back to dipping. That stuff will ruin your teeth and gums, not to mention kill you". Dentists exact words.
Point is, just go. It's part of the process of quitting. You will be fine and will have one less thing to worry about.
You got this brohammer.
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Speaking of going to the dentists and what will happen if you keep dipping. Read this chilling tale. It was written almost EXACTLY one year ago. This guy CAVED short of the HOF, never came back and told me in a text that he would just keep having this done. That's how powerful this shit is. Be better than this guy!!!!
I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. your head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it) my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. you have to do it just right.. any sucking action and you will unclot the roof of your mouth and bleed out like a stuck hog.. Never has a gum graft surgery ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today!
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Thanks y'all. I agree he should absolutely go to the dentist. My understanding was it was a good idea to wait 30 days and I just wanted to assure him that the cavities won't be different in 26 more days. If I gave the impression that he could wait forever, my aplologies.
Definitely go to the dentist! I wasn't going to go the scare tactic route regarding scaling and root planning and grafting and all that but yes.... Go to the dentist!
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feeling better this morning all.
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feeling better this morning all.
'band'
Enjoy it, and be ready just in case the 'zombie' shows.
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Thank you sir, hour by hour. I am quit
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Thank you sir, hour by hour. I am quit
Grizz,you have made my quit stronger.
Well done.
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day 5, much better. Was able to get a lot of work done, fog lifting but still there. craves every couple hours, not every couple minutes. Stay strong everyone and fuck you snuff
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day 5, much better. Was able to get a lot of work done, fog lifting but still there. craves every couple hours, not every couple minutes. Stay strong everyone and fuck you snuff
I fucked snuff once...once. It gave me a bad rash and burning sensation when I peed. Or was that the one legged midget stripper?
Either way, great job!!!
Stay quit!
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day 5, much better. Was able to get a lot of work done, fog lifting but still there. craves every couple hours, not every couple minutes. Stay strong everyone and fuck you snuff
Good news. It'll get better, and then it's gonna punch you in the mouth again.
Keep your head down. Pay attention. Concentrate on the next step only.
She ain't done with your ass by a long damned shot.
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agreed, half of my time is being spent getting preprared. On way to work this morning, stopped a stop sign and one of the electric company guys was working on a transformer or something, he pulled out a can of snuff and took a huge dip. I started dying laughing for some reason, i guess becuse it was a test, or a sign, or something. Either way, fuck you snuff.
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Keep it up Grizz! Almost 1 week (the toughest week) down. You are doing this!
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What up, Grizz! Just checking to see how day 6 is treating you so far?
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Man, day 6 is about like day 5 which is much better than 1-3. Clear as mud? Seriously, I am felling pretty strong. Has some struggles earlier but got through Em. How you doing woopig?
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Man, day 6 is about like day 5 which is much better than 1-3. Clear as mud? Seriously, I am felling pretty strong. Has some struggles earlier but got through Em. How you doing woopig?
Nice. You're getting your life back. Stay the course my friend.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
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On an airplane and some jake leg took a gauge pinch of snuff behind me. Day 8 but I might choke the man.
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On an airplane and some jake leg took a gauge pinch of snuff behind me. Day 8 but I might choke the man.
Quietly tell the stewardess that its bothering you. Planes are TOBACCO free. Fuck that asshole.
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Nah, strengthen the quit I hope. I was him, 8 days ago. I still want to choke him.
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It's cope, not grizzly. I am glad.
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It's cope, not grizzly. I am glad.
We got us a quitter here. It's going to take more than some idiot slave one seat back to Rattle him. You keep on Keepen on bro. Realize that the idiot in back of you is a slave to a weed. Im quit right beside you. I don't like planes so lets make this snappy.
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He is hovering the cope. 2nd dip just went in. I am free today
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He is hovering the cope. 2nd dip just went in. I am free today
Chin dippin on an airplane...that's pretty low. Despite being so high.
Bet the guy thinks he's hot shit too. Poor bastards a slave and doesn't even know it.
Sad, that USED to be us. PROUD that it's us no longer.
Fucking ass buckle.
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He is hovering the cope. 2nd dip just went in. I am free today
Chin dippin on an airplane...that's pretty low. Despite being so high.
Bet the guy thinks he's hot shit too. Poor bastards a slave and doesn't even know it.
Sad, that USED to be us. PROUD that it's us no longer.
Fucking ass buckle.
He's probably thinking he's all incontrol. Probably thinks he can quit anytime he wants. Bound chained and gagged,, that's what he is.
Not our buddy grizzly though. He's free and proud. He owns that plain right now.
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He is hovering the cope. 2nd dip just went in. I am free today
Chin dippin on an airplane...that's pretty low. Despite being so high.
Bet the guy thinks he's hot shit too. Poor bastards a slave and doesn't even know it.
Sad, that USED to be us. PROUD that it's us no longer.
Fucking ass buckle.
He's probably thinking he's all incontrol. Probably thinks he can quit anytime he wants. Bound chained and gagged,, that's what he is.
Not our buddy grizzly though. He's free and proud. He owns that plain right now.
Grizz could land that bird if the flight crew went down.
No doubt about it
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He is hovering the cope. 2nd dip just went in. I am free today
Chin dippin on an airplane...that's pretty low. Despite being so high.
Bet the guy thinks he's hot shit too. Poor bastards a slave and doesn't even know it.
Sad, that USED to be us. PROUD that it's us no longer.
Fucking ass buckle.
He's probably thinking he's all incontrol. Probably thinks he can quit anytime he wants. Bound chained and gagged,, that's what he is.
Not our buddy grizzly though. He's free and proud. He owns that plain right now.
Grizz could land that bird if the flight crew went down.
No doubt about it
Been calling you grizzly,, need to stop that.
No longer do I want to associate that name with you. G.A seems more appropriate. After yesterday you've stepped it up a notch.
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ok, so i manned up and set a dentist appoint tomorrow. Been a decade I bet. Nervous as a tick. Any comments, recomendations for me? I never like going to dentist before snuff, and while dipping, forget it. Put it off and off. What do you say when you get in the chair? What do they say about the white cheeks/gums from dipping? Man this is nerve racking.
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Take a deep breath and just tell the guy..the secretary probably knows a dipper as soon as you walk through the door so you are not going to shock these people. It will be what it will be. there is just today. Breath
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ok, so i manned up and set a dentist appoint tomorrow. Been a decade I bet. Nervous as a tick. Any comments, recomendations for me? I never like going to dentist before snuff, and while dipping, forget it. Put it off and off. What do you say when you get in the chair? What do they say about the white cheeks/gums from dipping? Man this is nerve racking.
Very good step. There will be no judgment, trust me. I've worked in the dental industry for six years and have never heard a hygienist who was surprised or judgmental. They want to help. They want you to be healthy. And dentists are usually thrilled to have someone come in who needs some work. Don't be self loathing, they have seen worse! The best patients are those who have a sense if humor and who are committed to getting healthier. Do those things and you'll be an office favorite. :)
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ok, so i manned up and set a dentist appoint tomorrow. Been a decade I bet. Nervous as a tick. Any comments, recomendations for me? I never like going to dentist before snuff, and while dipping, forget it. Put it off and off. What do you say when you get in the chair? What do they say about the white cheeks/gums from dipping? Man this is nerve racking.
BE HONEST AS FUCK.
Tell them you dipped X number of years and are now quit and you want to make sure you didn't do any permanent damage and that you want to get back on the path of good oral hygiene.
I GUARANTEE, they will appreciate the honesty and be supper supportive.
Also...hit the laugh gas. Tell them TWO times you don't think its on. You will float.
Give us a report tomorrow. I bet it won't be so bad.
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Take a deep breath and just tell the guy..the secretary probably knows a dipper as soon as you walk through the door so you are not going to shock these people. It will be what it will be. there is just today. Breath
^^^THIS^^^
The truth is the best bet.
I will warn you: many guys struggle after a dentist appointment because of good news. We all go back the first time expecting the worst. Some of us get bad news. Many dodge a bullet...momentarily.
Be careful.
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Take a deep breath and just tell the guy..the secretary probably knows a dipper as soon as you walk through the door so you are not going to shock these people. It will be what it will be. there is just today. Breath
^^^THIS^^^
The truth is the best bet.
I will warn you: many guys struggle after a dentist appointment because of good news. We all go back the first time expecting the worst. Some of us get bad news. Many dodge a bullet...momentarily.
Be careful.
GA,, i'm pretty sure your not going to be the first x dipper that is sitting in front of your dentist. Just a guess, could be wrong. Maybe the dentist your seeing just got out of dental school, yea maybe but doubtful.
They are very supportive buddy. They will be honest but supportive. It' going to be fine. I agree with diesel,, breathe.....
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Do you suggest getting the oral cancer screening? The VELscope i beleive they call it? My damn mouth is 12 days into the quit, i dont want them to wrongly think they see something cancerous when in fact my fucking whole mouth is healing from the poison. The anxiety i am having here is like day 2 of my quit. F that.
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Do you suggest getting the oral cancer screening? The VELscope i beleive they call it? My damn mouth is 12 days into the quit, i dont want them to wrongly think they see something cancerous when in fact my fucking whole mouth is healing from the poison. The anxiety i am having here is like day 2 of my quit. F that.
YES!! Absolutely yes.
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Do you suggest getting the oral cancer screening? The VELscope i beleive they call it? My damn mouth is 12 days into the quit, i dont want them to wrongly think they see something cancerous when in fact my fucking whole mouth is healing from the poison. The anxiety i am having here is like day 2 of my quit. F that.
Relax, if you tell them exactly what you have done, newly quit, 12 days, and so on they will know exactly what to do. This is just like quitting, one day at a time. You will be fine, and I am sure I will see you rejoicing here tomorrow.
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Of course post dip mouth sores popping up today. Been chewing so much gum my cheeks are worn out as well. Jeeze.
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Of course post dip mouth sores popping up today. Been chewing so much gum my cheeks are worn out as well. Jeeze.
Hold in there grizzly. It gets better, just keep Keeping on. We are all here Quitting with you.
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G.A. just do like they told you: relax, be honest, and get as much nitros as you can get! Way to be brave. I'd be shocked if they aren't super supportive and helpful. Most important thing right now is you are quit, and want to be healthy from here on out. Proud of you. Quit with you all day.
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Well, I am very glad to report, only one cavity. Gums were in good health, teeth fine and no signs of cancer today. Stay quit all.
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Well, I am very glad to report, only one cavity. Gums were in good health, teeth fine and no signs of cancer today. Stay quit all.
Nice bro!!!! That's awesome!!!! Has to be some weight off your chest. Did you spike on nictrice?
Seriously though, piggy backing what Waste said. Take this good news and use it as momentum to keep your quit going. You dodged a bullet, that doesn't mean you need to go back to playing Russian roullete.
I know you wont though. You are smarter than that.
Great work bro. Keep it up!!!
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Lets just say I have some healing to do on cheeks and gums and dentist warned me about NO more snuff. I am done fellows, for today I just rolled to day 14 as of 950 pm cdt. I a, quit today
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Lets just say I have some healing to do on cheeks and gums and dentist warned me about NO more snuff. I am done fellows, for today I just rolled to day 14 as of 950 pm cdt. I a, quit today
So I guess the dentist checked out OK?
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Good deal on the dentist GA. Your putting the excitement back into quitting. Worried for days about a dentist. A plain ride with a douche. The electric company guy. I could go on and on with this. My point is your 15 days with a 10 page intro and your still quit.
That's how it's done my friend! You are staying quit because your serious about this quit and it shows. Your intro has got to be one of the most entertaining intros i've been a part of. Your helping me stay quit everyday. If you can make it in a plane, in a car, on a train well, by golly I can do it. I'm quit with you all day bro.
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Now we all get to say.... WE TOLD YOU SO!!!! 'arse' Glad you're good!
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thanks all, this sure has been a ride!
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thanks all, this sure has been a ride!
Grizz so proud of ya man. You've faced and beaten so many fears in the last 14 days: fear of quitting, fear of going to the dentist, fear of technology (haha jk had to give you some crap there:)). You're an authentic man. Just amazing the amount of toughness and leadership your demonstrating right now.
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thanks all, this sure has been a ride!
Grizzly
keep smackin that tin in the mouth. Your doin it and I look forward to be day 15. Hearing your story inspires me and others. Way to fight!
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Watering the flowers.........it's something as simple as grabbing a cold beer and heading out by the pool to water the flowers to be a trigger. Finished my beer and kind of panicked because I didn't have a can on me. Blood pressure shot up i got nervous, what if i dont have a can in my truck, what if the store is out of wintergreen.............Then I remembered I am quit, and I can water the fucking flowers and drink a cold beer on a 103 degree day without poison. Thi quit is exciting, and so worth it. Everyone have a good weekend and remember that nic bitch is hiding in the flowers, on the plane, in your truck, all over the place. Grab a seat in the quit train and hold the fuck on.
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Watering the flowers.........it's something as simple as grabbing a cold beer and heading out by the pool to water the flowers to be a trigger. Finished my beer and kind of panicked because I didn't have a can on me. Blood pressure shot up i got nervous, what if i dont have a can in my truck, what if the store is out of wintergreen.............Then I remembered I am quit, and I can water the fucking flowers and drink a cold beer on a 103 degree day without poison. Thi quit is exciting, and so worth it. Everyone have a good weekend and remember that nic bitch is hiding in the flowers, on the plane, in your truck, all over the place. Grab a seat in the quit train and hold the fuck on.
You are straight up killin it man. Quitters gonna quit. You da man.
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Quit on GA! Glad the dentist was good for you; loved the warning about the flowers too. Keep it quit.
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Damn it feels good to be quit. Hope everyone had a happy and healthy 4 th of July and thanks to all of the vets out there. Be strong, keep quit and thanks to all of my KTC family for getting me to day 21.
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Damn it feels good to be quit. Hope everyone had a happy and healthy 4 th of July and thanks to all of the vets out there. Be strong, keep quit and thanks to all of my KTC family for getting me to day 21.
Freedom. Being quit means you get to experience a TON of new stuff without the constant pressure/threat of running out of dip! The first few times I had to be somewhere and NOT have to plan my time out so I could go to the store and get a can or two... Damn! That threw me for a loop! No checking my pockets anymore, no worrying about what I left in which car so my wife wouldn't catch it. On and on... Done. Freedom is so damn cool bro...
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Great job GA. You have been one quitting machine.
I recommend this intro to anyone just starting your quit. Read through this intro and see a real quitter. Observe someone that came in here, posted a day one and never looked back. He was serious and is using all the tools necessary to make this quit stick. Quit with you anyday GA.
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Day 25, what a fucking ride. Chili....that's right chili. I texted waste panel about it last week. It's a huge crave inducer for me for some reason. Last week i Went to the club, had a bowl of chili and fought the nic bitch all afternoon. Well, today guess what I had? Fucking chili again, in 103 degree heat,I went back to the club and ate chili. I guess as a test i wanted to do,well I won. My thoughts are chili takes me to fall days, at the ranch or the duck club. Times of complete relaxment, and joy. That my friends is how fucked up we are on nicotine. Watering flowers, chili, plane rides next to dippers, it's all the nic bitch hiding and waiting. Nic bitch is a pissed off early spring rattlesnake hiding under your truck. You can hear it, can't see it, but it will bite your ass quick if you aren't watching. Stay strong, and watch for snakes.
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You the man Grizz! My worst craves were in the mid 20's I had to remind myself every crave is a chance to make the quit stronger. Quit on brotha
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Snakes indeed... Quit on G.A. EDD.
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Been on the road with work, been a very busy month, probably a blessing to be so distracted from the nicotine whore. Anywho, went the whole day without a craving, the first day of 34 without one. I tell you this for the guys in the. First 10 days who think they would chop off their dicks for pinch. Sit tight, ride the fucking train and hold on. You will be at day 20 pr 30 soon enough. Hour by hour guys, minute by minute. Thank you KTC
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Been on the road with work, been a very busy month, probably a blessing to be so distracted from the nicotine whore. Anywho, went the whole day without a craving, the first day of 34 without one. I tell you this for the guys in the. First 10 days who think they would chop off their dicks for pinch. Sit tight, ride the fucking train and hold on. You will be at day 20 pr 30 soon enough. Hour by hour guys, minute by minute. Thank you KTC
You have no idea how great things will get.
:D
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Day 40, damn proud to be quit with KTC. Special thanks again to waste Panel, he has been there for me since day 1. Anyone reading this, you can do it! Fight for it.
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you rock dude. All these day 3 gonna cave folks and you made it to 40. Holy hell!!!
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Day 57, man it feels good to be a quitter. Lets talk about weight gain fellows. I think i have stacked on 20 lbs since my quit. Not good, not good at all. I walk daily, but that is not cutting it. Time to get it in gear.
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Day 57, man it feels good to be a quitter. Lets talk about weight gain fellows. I think i have stacked on 20 lbs since my quit. Not good, not good at all. I walk daily, but that is not cutting it. Time to get it in gear.
Excellent brother. Stacking those days in the first few weeks can cause a little weight gain. You want to lose it your going to have to do more than a brisk walk in the shady little park down the road bro. Time to step it up to the next level. Quit with you..
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Day 57, man it feels good to be a quitter. Lets talk about weight gain fellows. I think i have stacked on 20 lbs since my quit. Not good, not good at all. I walk daily, but that is not cutting it. Time to get it in gear.
Excellent brother. Stacking those days in the first few weeks can cause a little weight gain. You want to lose it your going to have to do more than a brisk walk in the shady little park down the road bro. Time to step it up to the next level. Quit with you..
I put on 30# in the first 30 days. All I did was eat. Sounds like you are doing things right with your quit. If you are ready, get to work on the weight gain.
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Day 57, man it feels good to be a quitter. Lets talk about weight gain fellows. I think i have stacked on 20 lbs since my quit. Not good, not good at all. I walk daily, but that is not cutting it. Time to get it in gear.
Excellent brother. Stacking those days in the first few weeks can cause a little weight gain. You want to lose it your going to have to do more than a brisk walk in the shady little park down the road bro. Time to step it up to the next level. Quit with you..
I put on 30# in the first 30 days. All I did was eat. Sounds like you are doing things right with your quit. If you are ready, get to work on the weight gain.
Hey GA -
like Evil, I also put on 30 pounds in my first 100 days. I am a big guy who has fought weight my whole life so going from 265 to 295 shocked me (though 3 years prior was at 335 before losing the weight with a CPAP and going on a no sugar drink diet). But that was me last year....I quit, weight went up, but I needed to focus and kick the nicotene first.
Now I quit in Jul12, hit the HOF in Oct12, and as of May 1st 2013, finally felt like I needed to do something about weight. I started full out with help (and using DDP Yoga). And since then have lost that 30 that I had put on.
So just to let you know the weight loss can and will come. Just focus on one thing at a time. Its good you recognize it now, but keep doing what you are and keep that quit strong.
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Thanks all.
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I felt like I was empting the fridge prettty hard and had been dieting hard prior to my quit. Lost 35 lbs and was checking in at 206. Four days in and up 6 lbs. I get on my mountian bike and ride like the nic bitch is chasinv my ass. Made it 6 miles this morning and ran 2 more tonight. Get out there and push it. I feel 100 times better running and riding without a wad of poison in my face. Quit with you griz edd.
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Bad ass quitter right here. Wanted to bump because we need to show the newbies how its done minute by minute.
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Bro congrats again and enjoy this day as another +1.
We head our train over to Dallas to pick up Grizzly Addict. He is married with one child, drives a suburban, hunts and pays his bills through corporate real estate. He started smoking at the age if 17 and then after a pack a day habit moved to Grizzly wintergreen at the age of 23. He plans on bringing Dewers Scotch onboard our train and says he enjoys too many inappropriate behaviors to list, lets put him in the train car with the folks that are rowdy lol. He will be taking his family out to dinner to celebrate tonight. When asked if he is signing up for 200 day he said "Probably",,,,,,, well bro,,,, my advice is Like Nike Just Do It.. Which is his own phrase for his words of wisdom. This bad ass isn't afraid of anyone here but says that Wastpanel is his most inspiring quitter. He enjoys all the avatars with bouncy boobs, I can understand that!
When asked if there was anyone he would like to thank Grizzly said "LOTS OF PEOPLE, BILLY BILL, WASTEPANEL JRZZLE AND MANY MANY OTHERS". Grizzly, well done my friend, stay around for another 100days and add those +1s bro. Congratulations from Jake and I, we quit with you. Erussell 147.
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Congrats on reaching HoF!
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Thanks all, more to come but what a great fucking ride it has been.
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Congrats. Time flies when your having fun. Quit with you any day my friend.
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Well done G.A.! Proud to be quit with you!