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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Easy on April 16, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
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I logged on back in Sept. of last year, certain that it was my time..... well, of course I caved and have not made yet another attempt........ I have chewed since about age 12, I'm 37 now. It seems that I go thru more now than I did say a year ago...... I have three kids, and I have my moments where I truly think that Im one of the ones who can skate by without getting cancer and be fine......
I know that's fuckin stupid logic, and just an easy way to put it off...... Why is the thought of just dumping out my cans completely horrifying? Then what? Does my head rotate like the gal on the Exorcist and I go totally fuckin nuts? I need to quit, and I half ass want to quit..... it seems so unattainable...... snoose is so pathetic, I cannot believe the grip it has......
lookin for advice,,, gettin yelled at... whatever...
thanks
Easy
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My advice? Dump out your cans and get in a quit group. Find some accountability in a group. Work through the pain. Start today and get through today. Get up tomorrow and start on day two.
Someone else will be along shortly to yell at you.
Oh yeah, you do not have any special power over cancer.
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I logged on back in Sept. of last year, certain that it was my time..... well, of course I caved and have not made yet another attempt........ I have chewed since about age 12, I'm 37 now. It seems that I go thru more now than I did say a year ago...... I have three kids, and I have my moments where I truly think that Im one of the ones who can skate by without getting cancer and be fine......
I know that's fuckin stupid logic, and just an easy way to put it off...... Why is the thought of just dumping out my cans completely horrifying? Then what? Does my head rotate like the gal on the Exorcist and I go totally fuckin nuts? I need to quit, and I half ass want to quit..... it seems so unattainable...... snoose is so pathetic, I cannot believe the grip it has......
lookin for advice,,, gettin yelled at... whatever...
thanks
Easy
Easy, the most important question you need to ask yourself before you go any further is "Do I really want to quit?" If you answer no or can't say yes, go no further you are not ready for this. If you answer yes then you can proceed.
If you are serious about quitting you need to come up with a game plan. You need to ask yourself these questions. Can I do this cold turkey? Do I need nicotine replacement to help me? If so, what kind? Gum, patch, Chantix?
If you need replacement therapy to help out, you should make an appointment with your Dr. and talk to him/her about quitting. Your 37, you should have a physical anyway. Maybe discuss other options that may be necessary. Anti-depression meds sometimes can help, maybe you'll need something to help yourself sleep.
Next question you need to ask yourself is "What are my triggers?" Do you dip first thing in the morning? After meals? In the car? Outside? Fishing? Hunting? Taking a shit? You'll need to alter and change your behavior. An example would be me for instance. I would wake up first thing in the morning and throw a lip in and watch the news. I don't do that anymore. Now I wake up make coffee, maybe some breakfast, I don't even turn the TV on. See what I am saying? Alter and change. You'll have to do this for everything. Driving is another big one. I make sure I have seeds and gum in the car. Maybe stop for a coffee while driving.
The great thing about this site is all the info is here. You have to look for it but it's here. We all quit different ways. This works for me. If you truely want it, you'll get there. It will suck at times and other times it will be great. I spend so much more time with my family because I am not spending that time with shit in my mouth.
Now the harsh part. Your a grown man right? What would you do if some little round faggot was controlling you? You would fight back, I hope? Your not going to let this little tin of worm shit controll you are you? Sure you may get beat kicked in the nuts from time to time but hopefully you'll find the balls to pick yourself up and keep fighting. Thats what this quit is about. Do you have the balls to stand up and say fuck you, you tin of shit. I don't need you. I am better without you. Your ruining my life. Your wife doesn't think you can do it, your kids may not think you can do it. Mine did. I was weak, but not anymore. Turkey
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Easy,
I'm not going to yell at you either. I'm simply going to point out that you are worshipping at the altar of the vegetable god. You are being controlled by a plant. The plant says spend your money on me and you comply. The plant says that it is more important than anything else in your world and you agree. The plant says that you are such a pathetic weakling that I will be the sole arbiter on whether you get cancer or not, you cannot stop me. YOU CAN stop it! You CAN get out from under this bastard. Chewing / dipping tobacco is a truly pathetic and disgusting past time. Make your choice and dump that crap out now and join a quit group. IT'S A FRICKING PLANT FOR CHRIST"S SAKE!!!
Sorry, I lied and yelled. TOUGH SHIT! Lose this habit now.
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The reason dumping out your cans is horrifying is that you haven't done anything without a dip in your mouth for 25 years. And your right, it is horrifying. Waiting a day, a week or a year is not going to make it any less so. Make the decision, toss your cans and get started. Its going to be rough to start with, stick to the site and let me know if I can help.
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Welcome to the board, it will give you what you need to make this quit stick if you can be held to your word. As far as the thought of quitting being terrifying, is that thought more terrifying than telling your wife and kids about how you are going to look a little different after the surgery?
There are hundreds of quitters actively beating an addiction exactly like yours right now, right here. You will take solice in seeing that what you are going through is "normal" because someone else is going through it right now with you and that all of us went through it to some degree before. It can be done. We are all a testament to that.
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Easy
Read this
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/chewie01.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/chewie01.asp)
then this
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/ashley.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/ashley.asp)
then this
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp)
Then YOU make a decision. No one can make it for you, but we can help you once you decide to quit.
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Easy,
I am an addict. You are an addict. Now, say it with me, "I am an addict." Now, say it out loud, "I am an addict." Go stand in front of mirror and say, "I AM AN ADDICT!"
If you can't do that you will not quit today. Crosshair was getting at it, the plant and it's contents of nicotine is your drug. It is the most powerful narcotic when it comes to psyiological and psychological addiction. Turkey is on target that there will be triggers for any addict. You must know what they are and come up with a plan to conquer them. Read all over this site, lots of great info and people that have done many different things to stay quit.
So, you are here because there is some intelligence located in your thick skull that says its time to quit or you are here because you are looking for someone to say "there are thousands of guys who chew a can a day and will never get cancer. Keep chewing you are probably one of them." I think somebody else but it so eloquently with you ain't got not fucking special powers over cancer. It is a equal opportunity killer.
Make your choice. Hope to see you in a quit group.
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"I Half Ass Want To Quit" That makes you a full ass!!!
Come back after you get a positive biopsy - then you will be ready to quit. Oh, but that will be to late then.
You have read the posts on this site. Ever look at dippers, most don't look very smart do they? Nope, most are Red Neck - Hill Billy, Dicktards who could not assimilate a sentence to save their life. Those are the guys that don't post here and will never quit. They are too stupid to realize that they are just killing themselves.
The guys on this site are the few X-Dippers smart enough to seek help in fighting their addiction before it is to late. The ones who are not "Half Ass Ready To Quit". Real men who care about their family - they want to be around for their wife and kids and are willing to endure the few days of hell for a life time of responsibility and the enjoyment
of being free, without the guilt of knowing what a selfish bastard you really are for doing this to your family.
noodle what I said and when you are ready to commit to your quit 100%, come back. Go away for now, we just do not have time to help a half ass quitter!!!
My 2C
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I logged on back in Sept. of last year, certain that it was my time..... well, of course I caved and have not made yet another attempt........ I have chewed since about age 12, I'm 37 now. It seems that I go thru more now than I did say a year ago...... I have three kids, and I have my moments where I truly think that Im one of the ones who can skate by without getting cancer and be fine......
I know that's fuckin stupid logic, and just an easy way to put it off...... Why is the thought of just dumping out my cans completely horrifying? Then what? Does my head rotate like the gal on the Exorcist and I go totally fuckin nuts? I need to quit, and I half ass want to quit..... it seems so unattainable...... snoose is so pathetic, I cannot believe the grip it has......
lookin for advice,,, gettin yelled at... whatever...
thanks
Easy
Easy,
We are the same age. I started that shit at 11 or 12 years of age. I am quit now. 816 days worth of being quit. If I can do this, you can too...........and you should. Say a big FUCK YOU to tobacco before it FUCKS YOU BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:
.........and yes, I was yelling. _
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I logged on back in Sept. of last year, certain that it was my time..... well, of course I caved and have not made yet another attempt........ I have chewed since about age 12, I'm 37 now. It seems that I go thru more now than I did say a year ago...... I have three kids, and I have my moments where I truly think that Im one of the ones who can skate by without getting cancer and be fine......
I know that's fuckin stupid logic, and just an easy way to put it off...... Why is the thought of just dumping out my cans completely horrifying? Then what? Does my head rotate like the gal on the Exorcist and I go totally fuckin nuts? I need to quit, and I half ass want to quit..... it seems so unattainable...... snoose is so pathetic, I cannot believe the grip it has......Â
lookin for advice,,, gettin yelled at... whatever...
thanks
Easy
Easy,
We are the same age. I started that shit at 11 or 12 years of age. I am quit now. 816 days worth of being quit. If I can do this, you can too...........and you should. Say a big FUCK YOU to tobacco before it FUCKS YOU BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:
.........and yes, I was yelling. _
I'm 37 also. Dipped that shit since before I was 10. Was up to a 2.5 can a day habit up until 23 days ago. I hit my wall when my wife's doc told her he thought I was ten years older than I am, and said i must be a heavy nicotine user to have prematurely aged so much. That did it for me.
Dump the shit out, and come over to July and sign roll.
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I logged on back in Sept. of last year, certain that it was my time..... well, of course I caved and have not made yet another attempt........ I have chewed since about age 12, I'm 37 now. It seems that I go thru more now than I did say a year ago...... I have three kids, and I have my moments where I truly think that Im one of the ones who can skate by without getting cancer and be fine......
I know that's fuckin stupid logic, and just an easy way to put it off...... Why is the thought of just dumping out my cans completely horrifying? Then what? Does my head rotate like the gal on the Exorcist and I go totally fuckin nuts? I need to quit, and I half ass want to quit..... it seems so unattainable...... snoose is so pathetic, I cannot believe the grip it has......Â
lookin for advice,,, gettin yelled at... whatever...
thanks
Easy
Easy,
We are the same age. I started that shit at 11 or 12 years of age. I am quit now. 816 days worth of being quit. If I can do this, you can too...........and you should. Say a big FUCK YOU to tobacco before it FUCKS YOU BIG!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry:
.........and yes, I was yelling. _
I'm 37 also. Dipped that shit since before I was 10. Was up to a 2.5 can a day habit up until 23 days ago. I hit my wall when my wife's doc told her he thought I was ten years older than I am, and said i must be a heavy nicotine user to have prematurely aged so much. That did it for me.
Dump the shit out, and come over to July and sign roll.
I'm 37 too, and have 3 girls and I can proudly say that my youngest daughter knows me as a non-dipper, she's never seen her daddy with a chew in. You have no idea how good that makes me feel. Absolutely no idea because you've blown that opportunity when you caved and sadly for you, you'll never get that back. Hopefully you realize that your life is full of once in a life time moments and when they're gone, they're gone. Each time you show up with a dip in your mouth is another opportunity that you've blown and one day, your time will run out.
In another life, I might feel sorry for you and possibly empathize and wish you the best of luck because deciding to quit once and for all is very hard. Living free from addiction has a price, but mere words cannot describe the reward. But right now, I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.
If you want to quit, you'll quit. If your life and family means anything at all, you find it within yourself to close the door- for good.
Once that happens you're our brother for life, until that happens, you're just another selfish dumb ass living on borrowed time.
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Easy,
There is alot of wisdom and experience in the previous posts. Many, many years of experience. Also, some damn good advise.
If you were looking for a shove in the right direction, you have it many times over.
Now, Quit.
Do that and keep your word. There is no doubt that we can help you stay quit.
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alright, I read somewhere in here today that someone was running a marathon, and trying to quit as well.... quitting mirrors running, in that you have to prepare mentally and physically......
the first step, is to dump the can.....i get that..... how in the hell do you mentally prepare,, iuchewie says its just a decision..... so.... do you just dump it all out that you can find and hold on for dear life?
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Hold on, visit this site, post roll, chat, read everything you can get you hands on, drink lots of water, chew gum and seeds, do whatever you have to do to stay quit, for starters
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Have you not read all the replys in your earlier post? You remind me of a little kid that is going swimming for the first time. Deathly afraid to get in the water and get wet behind your ears. Once your in, your in, you just have to get in. We're like your little floaties, trust us we'll keep you afloat. Go ahead, try it, I dare you. I just don't understand what part you don't get. You dump your shit, suck it up, never go back. Deal with the rest of the crap day to day as it comes up. Did your momma have a hard time getting the bottle out of your mouth?
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i hear what you're saying -- unfortunately there is a different answer for everyone out there. for me personally, i woke up one morning and i'd just had enough. it was time to quit. i'd read a ton about quitting... i knew that i had to quit and it was just time.
did i have my mind around the idea of quitting forever? hell no. in fact i still don't worry about "forever". quit for TODAY. that's MUCH easier to conceptualize.
it sounds like that's what you're struggling with -- forever. don't.
deal with today... you can quit for today right? you can get past one ball busting day right? then do it.
we'll deal with tomorrow when we get there.
finally remember this. NEVER underestimate the power of ONE DAY off dip. rome wasn't built in a day and neither was your addiction. but your QUIT -- now that my friend can be built in a day -- one day at a time.
chewie
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just freaking do it already. post roll. admit your addict and get on with it.
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God, you guys are bunch of hard asses.... and I appreciate and commend it.... theres no way that i can pull any bullshit over on anyone here.... and your comments are exactly what i need in executing my plan.....
i know already..... get on with it......
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God, you guys are bunch of hard asses.... and I appreciate and commend it.... theres no way that i can pull any bullshit over on anyone here.... and your comments are exactly what i need in executing my plan.....
i know already..... get on with it......
FYI, easy, i've moved this to the appropriate forum...
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man up and do it
in life we are judged by our actions - not our words/intentions