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Title: Day 1
Post by: have2stop on September 02, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
Day 1 starts tomorrow for me. Wish me luck. I am nervous
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Smokeyg on September 02, 2013, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: have2stop
Day 1 starts tomorrow for me. Wish me luck. I am nervous
Don't ever post to this website if you are still chewing. Nice to meet you. Nice fucking chaw in your mouth asshole.

Quit now or fuck off.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: srans on September 02, 2013, 11:52:00 PM
Quote from: have2stop
Day 1 starts tomorrow for me.  Wish me luck.  I am nervous
Welcome to ktc. Sorry, you won't get anyone wishing you luck around here friend. The only thing we do is quit. No luck involved. You decide if the poison ever touches your pie hole again. You have come to the right place if you want to quit.

Go to the top left, welcome center. Read how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. If you need support we are here.

There is enough information on this site to show you how quitting is possible brother. Get rid of hope, luck, and try, then trash your stash. Post roll and keep your promise. That simple. May not be easy for a while, but you can do it. You know how i know? I,m doing it. For 200 days I've posted roll everyday and kept My promise. If me and 1000's of others can do it you can to. I'll be looking for you on roll brother.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 03, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Quote from: have2stop
Day 1 starts tomorrow for me. Wish me luck. I am nervous
Wish you luck....for what? Why don't you quit NOW, pussy?

Why even start an intro if you're not quit?

Very dooshy.

And no, we aren't assholes. We just don't appreciate people walking into our house with a lip full of shit saying "I'm quitting tomorrow, wish me luck".

Would be like me walking into an AA meeting swigging a brewski and telling evrryon there, "what's up, I'm quitting tomorrow. Wish me LUCK". Then walking out chugging the last of my brew and burping.

They would want to rip my fucking head off.

Come correct tomorrow and apologize .
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: wmcatty on September 03, 2013, 02:20:00 AM
Hello Have2stop. Welcome aboard if you are serious about quitting. As you may gather, my brothers in here don't abide with those that use tobacco. It is a sign of weakness. Lets get your quit going for you right now. Read all you can and learn how to post roll. You will be in the December 2013 quit group. Post your day 1 promise today that you will not use tobacco in any form today. Keep your word. Then repeat it tomorrow. Simple. Look in the upper right hand area of this screen and you will see Inbox (1). That has my telephone number listed in a private message (PM) to you. Call me with any questions and lets get your quit party started. We are here to help and this site will give you the tools and support you will need to be successful. But dont waste our time if you are just testing the waters, as these boys are not ones to sugar coat contemplation. Wayne
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Minny on September 03, 2013, 07:43:00 AM
Have2Stop,

I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes. It's probably been a while since they've read "IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING, READ THIS FIRST" which welcomes you to post in the Cafe and in the Introductions area. Read This First (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

In any event, congratulations on your decision. Hit up the welcome center and get to know how to navigate this site. It's pretty simple, really. Once you've made the decision, you Post Roll for that day. Then, you don't use nicotine in ANY form. Repeat. Like I said, the welcome center has a ton of info.

Once you quit and post roll (and that should be RIGHT NOW), you DO need to realize that this is a zero nicotine, zero tolerance site.

Welcome.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Radman on September 03, 2013, 07:52:00 AM
I clicked on this thread because I wanted to compliment you on your screen name. Then I read the crap you posted about tomorrow and luck. Not good.

ALright, if you actually went through with your plan, then you are quit now. If so, then get with the program.

1. Post roll. (That's a promise, not just a list of names.)
2. Keep nicotine out of your system for 24 hours.
3. Repeat.

Do that, and nobody here will give you grief or call you "hurtful" names.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: have2stop on September 03, 2013, 08:27:00 AM
Sorry, I didn't know how it worked. I was looking around online for a support group and came across this one. I was looking for somewhere to be able to talk to people who have had success and help me get through the tough times. I had tried before, but it didn't work. This time is different. I am done
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Roamcountry on September 03, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Well....It's tomorrow....
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: gorilla1 on September 03, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
Welcome aboard H2S. I'll be watching to see if you're posting roll in your DEcember HOF class. Get in there and give those brothers and the rest of us your word that this is what you WANT to do. I get that there is still a lot of addict babble and nonsense rolling around your nugget. Truthfully, there is prob still some left in mine, but if you wanna do this thing you gotta get with the program. Drink the kool-aid as some of these knuckleheads will say. What does that mean you ask? Good question. Here's some things that are helping me:

1. Posting RC everyday.
2. Reading others intros and HOF speeches to know I'm not alone in this deal.
3. Asking for help!
4. Getting in touch with and developing relationships with some of the folks here.
5. Trying to figure out the acronyms on my own. HA!
6. Letting go of all the bullshit addict speak that my brain has been spewing for years and keeping me enslaved to that poison.
7. Help others.

The simplicity of this thing is really amazing, but far from easy. You're gonna feel like shit for a while. It's okay. We ALL have been there. Get in the middle of this herd and you're gonna be good. Stay on the fringes and you're probably not gonna make it.

My number is in your inbox. Use it.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: srans on September 03, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Welcome again have 2. I noticed you were in the right place to post, but you clicked on the discussion board. Here is the link that advises you how to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=7614 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614)

I went ahead and posted for you today, so just read up on it and congratulations on your decision.

Now, you have taken luck and kicked it to the curb. Posting roll means you have promised yourself, me and everyone else in the world not to use for the day. Good job!!

As others have said, things will be rough for a while, but it's so worth it. Each day you don't use will make it easier for the next day. One day at a time and you can have back a lot of what the poison has stolen. One day at a time and you can keep it.

If you need another number let me know. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: traumagnet on September 03, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
You will learn Have2. No one is intentionally being mean to you look at it as tough love. We know addicts and we know the behaviors we don't like those behaviors so we let the addict side of you know right away we do not tolerate it. You will never forget this intro we don't try, hope or have luck we do. We do it every damn day that's how it has to be. Leave the door open just a crack and the nic bitch will reel her slave back in in a heart beat. Once you learn code and language here you will be fine. We welcome you here you posted roll you gave your word that you will not use for today only. Wake up tomorrow and repeat....ODAAT one day at a time.

PM me if you need anything.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: nebraskadad58 on September 03, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
if you want to quit tobacco, or Addictive substance, there are no "1/2 measures'

want to quit? Post in Roll Call, and find someone to be accountable too and hang on.. Find someone on these threads that says something that makes sense or who extends the hand to you without condemnation. I am sure you are doing enough of that on your own.

PM me as well..
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Evil_Won on September 03, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
Good job getting your name on the December 2013 Roll. That is your promise to yourself, the Dec 13 group, and the rest of us that you won't stuff death (or any nicotine product) into your yapper for the rest of the day.

Posting Roll early, every day, is sacred here; it is the backbone to our quits. Your word needs to be golden to us. If you put your name on Roll then you do not touch nicotine for the rest of the day. Period. No discussion. Repeat that process first thing tomorrow and the +1s will add up.

It's not all tea and crumpets. The next few days are going to suck ass. READ everything. Get involved in your group and start getting to know them to form that "Brotherhood" that you'll READ about. These people will save your life.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: wmcatty on September 03, 2013, 08:49:00 PM
Nice job on your Day 1 have2stop. You have a hard row to hoe for the next few days but you will get through it. Remember to call me or anyone else on here if things start to look pretty shitty and you need to vent, rage or just shoot the shit. That is what we are here for. You have my number so use it when you need to...and that is 24/7 amigo. Congratulations on the best decision you will ever make.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Mike from AB on September 03, 2013, 08:56:00 PM
Welcome H2S  all the best to you powering through the first difficult days!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 03, 2013, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: Minny
Have2Stop,

I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes. It's probably been a while since they've read "IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING, READ THIS FIRST" which welcomes you to post in the Cafe and in the Introductions area. Read This First (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

In any event, congratulations on your decision. Hit up the welcome center and get to know how to navigate this site. It's pretty simple, really. Once you've made the decision, you Post Roll for that day. Then, you don't use nicotine in ANY form. Repeat. Like I said, the welcome center has a ton of info.

Once you quit and post roll (and that should be RIGHT NOW), you DO need to realize that this is a zero nicotine, zero tolerance site.

Welcome.
Great job posting day one have2stop. Although I busted your balls a bit I want you to quit more than you will ever know. I don't wish nicotine addiction on my worst enemy. We just get a lot of people who blow through here promising to quit "tomorrow" and are never heard from again. That's why they get some tough talk and are many times encouraged to dump their can immediately.

Minny...what's your fucking deal? You're apologizing for me and I really am a dipshit and an an asshole?

Its been 455 days since I quit and I haven't forgotten SHIT.

I remember EVERY THING.

So please shut the fuck up and stop "apologizing for me".

Have2, if you need anything. Hit me up anytime.

Quit on...
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Smokeyg on September 03, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Minny
Have2Stop,

I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes. It's probably been a while since they've read "IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING, READ THIS FIRST" which welcomes you to post in the Cafe and in the Introductions area. Read This First (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

In any event, congratulations on your decision. Hit up the welcome center and get to know how to navigate this site. It's pretty simple, really. Once you've made the decision, you Post Roll for that day. Then, you don't use nicotine in ANY form. Repeat. Like I said, the welcome center has a ton of info.

Once you quit and post roll (and that should be RIGHT NOW), you DO need to realize that this is a zero nicotine, zero tolerance site.

Welcome.
Great job posting day one have2stop. Although I busted your balls a bit I want you to quit more than you will ever know. I don't wish nicotine addiction on my worst enemy. We just get a lot of people who blow through here promising to quit "tomorrow" and are never heard from again. That's why they get some tough talk and are many times encouraged to dump their can immediately.

Minny...what's your fucking deal? You're apologizing for me and I really am a dipshit and an an asshole?

Its been 455 days since I quit and I haven't forgotten SHIT.

I remember EVERY THING.

So please shut the fuck up and stop "apologizing for me".

Have2, if you need anything. Hit me up anytime.

Quit on...
Wait...did you also get the blowhard "Maybe you should read [Remshot's Rules], too, Fucktard. Your post is reckless and embarrassing" PM from Minny? Is it against the rules to share "personal" messages on a "public" forum? Hmmmm...Fuck it. I still say FU to h2s for desecrating this fine community with his nicotine stained fingers.

And to the new and currently quit h2s - please don't go back to the can or I will feel personally responsible for your failure. You and Minny are both golden beams of sunshine on an otherwise desolate landscape. Puckered assholes and apologies.

I love you.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 04, 2013, 01:11:00 AM
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Minny
Have2Stop,

I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes. It's probably been a while since they've read "IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING, READ THIS FIRST" which welcomes you to post in the Cafe and in the Introductions area. Read This First (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

In any event, congratulations on your decision. Hit up the welcome center and get to know how to navigate this site. It's pretty simple, really. Once you've made the decision, you Post Roll for that day. Then, you don't use nicotine in ANY form. Repeat. Like I said, the welcome center has a ton of info.

Once you quit and post roll (and that should be RIGHT NOW), you DO need to realize that this is a zero nicotine, zero tolerance site.

Welcome.
Great job posting day one have2stop. Although I busted your balls a bit I want you to quit more than you will ever know. I don't wish nicotine addiction on my worst enemy. We just get a lot of people who blow through here promising to quit "tomorrow" and are never heard from again. That's why they get some tough talk and are many times encouraged to dump their can immediately.

Minny...what's your fucking deal? You're apologizing for me and I really am a dipshit and an an asshole?

Its been 455 days since I quit and I haven't forgotten SHIT.

I remember EVERY THING.

So please shut the fuck up and stop "apologizing for me".

Have2, if you need anything. Hit me up anytime.

Quit on...
Wait...did you also get the blowhard "Maybe you should read [Remshot's Rules], too, Fucktard. Your post is reckless and embarrassing" PM from Minny? Is it against the rules to share "personal" messages on a "public" forum? Hmmmm...Fuck it. I still say FU to h2s for desecrating this fine community with his nicotine stained fingers.

And to the new and currently quit h2s - please don't go back to the can or I will feel personally responsible for your failure. You and Minny are both golden beams of sunshine on an otherwise desolate landscape. Puckered assholes and apologies.

I love you.
No I didn't. Sounds like Hallmark© material.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but Minny, didn't Loot LIGHT YOUR ASS UP after you caved a few days in? Perhaps we should have apologized for him and called him an asshole?

Despite those potty words, you have gone on to be a fine quitter. Imagine that...
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 04, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Smokeyg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Minny
Have2Stop,

I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes. It's probably been a while since they've read "IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING, READ THIS FIRST" which welcomes you to post in the Cafe and in the Introductions area. Read This First (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

In any event, congratulations on your decision. Hit up the welcome center and get to know how to navigate this site. It's pretty simple, really. Once you've made the decision, you Post Roll for that day. Then, you don't use nicotine in ANY form. Repeat. Like I said, the welcome center has a ton of info.

Once you quit and post roll (and that should be RIGHT NOW), you DO need to realize that this is a zero nicotine, zero tolerance site.

Welcome.
Great job posting day one have2stop. Although I busted your balls a bit I want you to quit more than you will ever know. I don't wish nicotine addiction on my worst enemy. We just get a lot of people who blow through here promising to quit "tomorrow" and are never heard from again. That's why they get some tough talk and are many times encouraged to dump their can immediately.

Minny...what's your fucking deal? You're apologizing for me and I really am a dipshit and an an asshole?

Its been 455 days since I quit and I haven't forgotten SHIT.

I remember EVERY THING.

So please shut the fuck up and stop "apologizing for me".

Have2, if you need anything. Hit me up anytime.

Quit on...
Wait...did you also get the blowhard "Maybe you should read [Remshot's Rules], too, Fucktard. Your post is reckless and embarrassing" PM from Minny? Is it against the rules to share "personal" messages on a "public" forum? Hmmmm...Fuck it. I still say FU to h2s for desecrating this fine community with his nicotine stained fingers.

And to the new and currently quit h2s - please don't go back to the can or I will feel personally responsible for your failure. You and Minny are both golden beams of sunshine on an otherwise desolate landscape. Puckered assholes and apologies.

I love you.
No I didn't. Sounds like Hallmark© material.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but Minny, didn't Loot LIGHT YOUR ASS UP after you caved a few days in? Perhaps we should have apologized for him and called him an asshole?

Despite those potty words, you have gone on to be a fine quitter. Imagine that...
Oops. I did get a nice warm and fuzzy pm from Minny, two now in fact, I missed the first one somehow.

I'm a "trashy asshole". Well...I've been called worse.

Glad to see Have2 posted roll and my trashy ass didn't scare him away. Obvious the guy has some balls. Minny, I think you have a fucking vagina.

Quit on...
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: miles on September 04, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
Congrats on choosing FREEDOM have2!

You will find FREEDOM tastes sweeter than any nicotine.

Fight on Brother!

Miles - 912 and quit with you!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 09, 2013, 11:42:00 AM
I was informed by Minny that this fella posted roll once and disappeared, AND THAT IT WAS MY DOING FOR NOT HOOKING HIM AND I NEED TO LEARN HOW KTC Wand S.

My hands are so bloody so lets try this.

Have2.. please please come back. I am sorry. I'm a bad person. Please forgive me. I'm sure you would still be quit if it weren't for me.

Im sooooo sorry. If you come back I will never speak to you again. I promise.

And could someone please explain to me how this fucking sight works? I'm creeping up on 500 days and apparently I still haven't figured it out.

Finally, fuck off Minny for even suggesting that I am a reason this guy was a one and done poster. What hell did I say that was so bad anyway?

I am fucking FUMING about this!!!!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Jlud007 on September 09, 2013, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
I was informed by Minny that this fella posted roll once and disappeared, AND THAT IT WAS MY DOING FOR NOT HOOKING HIM AND I NEED TO LEARN HOW KTC Wand S.

My hands are so bloody so lets try this.

Have2.. please please come back. I am sorry. I'm a bad person. Please forgive me. I'm sure you would still be quit if it weren't for me.

Im sooooo sorry. If you come back I will never speak to you again. I promise.

And could someone please explain to me how this fucking sight works? I'm creeping up on 500 days and apparently I still haven't figured it out.

Finally, fuck off Minny for even suggesting that I am a reason this guy was a one and done poster. What hell did I say that was so bad anyway?

I am fucking FUMING about this!!!!
I'm a little disappointed in my fellow October Duck here in this thread and would venture to say that he owes a vet like Diesel a little more respect. If you don't have the stones to take a little KTC tough love than you might as well pack it up now and not waste time. This isn't the soccer team where everyone gets a trophy for showing up, you show up everyday and earn your quit. You earn the respect of your fellow quitters by showing up every day nic free and posting roll together. We've all been down the wishing, luck, fucking handholding....blah blah bullshit road.

Worktowin posted and bumped in another newbie thread about new guys coming in lately and balking about posting roll and how we do things.....tough shit. Like everyone else that earns a spot here you can do it the KTC way or get the hell out. Rant over, I don't like to see someone in my group pissing on a vet to coddle some greenhorn that isn't even quit the poison yet.

Later, quit on Diesel and all my bad ass brothers!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 09, 2013, 01:01:00 PM
Quote from: jlud007
Quote from: Diesel2112
I was informed by Minny that this fella posted roll once and disappeared, AND THAT IT WAS MY DOING FOR NOT HOOKING HIM AND I NEED TO LEARN HOW KTC Wand S. 

My hands are so bloody so lets try this.

Have2.. please please come back.  I am sorry.  I'm a bad person.  Please forgive me.  I'm sure you would still be quit if it weren't for me.

Im sooooo sorry.  If you come back I will never speak to you again.  I promise. 

And could someone please explain to me how this fucking sight works?  I'm creeping up on 500 days and apparently I still haven't figured it out.

Finally, fuck off Minny for even suggesting that I am a reason this guy was a one and done poster.  What hell did I say that was so bad anyway?

I am fucking FUMING about this!!!!
I'm a little disappointed in my fellow October Duck here in this thread and would venture to say that he owes a vet like Diesel a little more respect. If you don't have the stones to take a little KTC tough love than you might as well pack it up now and not waste time. This isn't the soccer team where everyone gets a trophy for showing up, you show up everyday and earn your quit. You earn the respect of your fellow quitters by showing up every day nic free and posting roll together. We've all been down the wishing, luck, fucking handholding....blah blah bullshit road.

Worktowin posted and bumped in another newbie thread about new guys coming in lately and balking about posting roll and how we do things.....tough shit. Like everyone else that earns a spot here you can do it the KTC way or get the hell out. Rant over, I don't like to see someone in my group pissing on a vet to coddle some greenhorn that isn't even quit the poison yet.

Later, quit on Diesel and all my bad ass brothers!
Oh no. Everyone calls me a "Keyboard Cowboy" and I chase newbies away according to Minny. Everyone pm'd and texted saying to ignore me as I'm "just a keyboard cowboy".

Was what I said really that bad by the way? Did I not congratulate and off my hand to the guy when he posted and explain why I was being a bit prickish????

According to Minny I'm delusional if I don't think I run people off.

And to anyone who thinks I'm "just a keyboard cowboy", have the fucking balls to say it to my face.

I don't want to hear it second hand through Minny. I'm a big boy I can take it.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: wmcatty on September 09, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: wmcatty
Hello Have2stop.  Welcome aboard if you are serious about quitting.  As you may gather, my brothers in here don't abide with those that use tobacco.  It is a sign of weakness.  Lets get your quit going for you right now.  Read all you can and learn how to post roll.  You will be in the December 2013 quit group.  Post your day 1 promise today that you will not use tobacco in any form today.  Keep your word.  Then repeat it tomorrow.  Simple.  Look in the upper right hand area of this screen and you will see Inbox (1).  That has my telephone number listed in a private message (PM) to you.  Call me with any questions and lets get your quit party started.   We are here to help and this site will give you the tools and support you will need to be successful.  But dont waste our time if you are just testing the waters, as these boys are not ones to sugar coat contemplation.  Wayne
Minny Mouse posted the following about 6 hours later:

"Have2Stop, I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes." right after I posted the above, so I guess I probably helped run Have2Stop off as well. I will share the blame with you Diesel, as between the two of us well intentioned but stupid assholes we only have almost 3 years of quit between us...far less experience than a 9 week quitter with his vast working knowledge of the site, addiction and quit experience.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 09, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
Quote from: wmcatty
Quote from: wmcatty
Hello Have2stop.  Welcome aboard if you are serious about quitting.  As you may gather, my brothers in here don't abide with those that use tobacco.  It is a sign of weakness.  Lets get your quit going for you right now.  Read all you can and learn how to post roll.  You will be in the December 2013 quit group.  Post your day 1 promise today that you will not use tobacco in any form today.  Keep your word.  Then repeat it tomorrow.  Simple.  Look in the upper right hand area of this screen and you will see Inbox (1).  That has my telephone number listed in a private message (PM) to you.  Call me with any questions and lets get your quit party started.   We are here to help and this site will give you the tools and support you will need to be successful.  But dont waste our time if you are just testing the waters, as these boys are not ones to sugar coat contemplation.  Wayne
Minny Mouse posted the following about 6 hours later:

"Have2Stop, I apologize for these dipshits, and yes they are assholes." right after I posted the above, so I guess I probably helped run Have2Stop off as well. I will share the blame with you Diesel, as between the two of us well intentioned but stupid assholes we only have almost 3 years of quit between us...far less experience than a 10 week quitter with his vast working knowledge of the site, addiction and quit experience.
Tough love, sweet love, any love wouldn't have kept the guy here. How I get blamed for it, I have no idea and it pisses me the fuck off!!!!

About a week ago a college kid came through here who had only been using a very short time but could see himself getting addicted.

I BEGGED him to stop now and to quit making love to the nic bitch, as did others.

The guy disappeared. Never heard a peep from him again.

I guess I keyboard cowboyed him outta here too?

Fuck it. Minny, you save EVERYONE. Ill stay out of your way from now on.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: jrod on September 09, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
Tough love: "Get the fuck out of here until you are quit."

4th grade BS: "Hey pussy, get the fuck out of here until you are quit, asshole."

We are adults struggling with the same addiction. Leave the name-calling at the playground.


NOTE: Blame for a failed quit falls on one person only. How dare anyone assign blame to others.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ffmoofus on September 09, 2013, 03:04:00 PM
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 09, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ffmoofus on September 09, 2013, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 09, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ffmoofus on September 09, 2013, 04:21:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
The only one responsible for someone not quitting is themselves! Diesel isn't stuffing that shit in their face. They are!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on September 10, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
I get where Minny is coming from, I mean it's cool, in an immature way, to rant on when you see someone posting on OUR site and they are still dipping.

In all likelihood, the chance of them staying on-board, would be higher if you would calmly explain how things work here. They are obviously looking for help, not for someone to yell at them and belittle them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you, you have proved that you are an awesome quitter but a more gentle approach will be more effective on 90% of the population.

I am no expert on quitting an addiction but I am a very successful sales rep so I know how to deal with the general population and my "general population" is all physicians, whom are the worst to deal with.

Some of the attitudes I see are not much different than the "brave and cocky" guys behind a steering wheel, who will cut you off and throw you a finger. Get them out of the car and it's an entire different story. Similar to calling someone Minnie Mouse .
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Jlud007 on September 10, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Look...this thread needs to be put to bed. I am getting a little frustrated with two of my quit group brothers who seem to agree that certain vets are "doing it wrong?"

This guy posted roll for a couple days and ducked out, simple. The only fault is his own, he was not ready to quit. I was that guy at one point and when I finally got on board I didn't care what anyone on these forums posted on my thread I was gonna get in here and fucking quit. So DUCKS! quit pointing fingers and lets get back to quitting and helping people who are actually here posting roll every damn day.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 10, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
I get where Minny is coming from, I mean it's cool, in an immature way, to rant on when you see someone posting on OUR site and they are still dipping.

In all likelihood, the chance of them staying on-board, would be higher if you would calmly explain how things work here. They are obviously looking for help, not for someone to yell at them and belittle them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you, you have proved that you are an awesome quitter but a more gentle approach will be more effective on 90% of the population.

I am no expert on quitting an addiction but I am a very successful sales rep so I know how to deal with the general population and my "general population" is all physicians, whom are the worst to deal with.

Some of the attitudes I see are not much different than the "brave and cocky" guys behind a steering wheel, who will cut you off and throw you a finger. Get them out of the car and it's an entire different story. Similar to calling someone Minnie Mouse .
I don't give a fuck if you're Zig Fucking Zigler. I am a successful salesman too. I sell tooling to tool and die shops. So the fuck what?

I've never sold to someone in an nicotine/chew intro forum before, have you? Not really sure you are compairing apples to apple's here.

The way I approach it is every intro I read I as different, just like every quit is. When I read this dude's intro I had a feeling he was pussy footing about quitting. I've seen it before. Usually when that happens I try and get that persons attention by snapping them off some tough talk to piss them off a little bit, but I also don't want to lose them so I try to explain WHY and that I'm not just being an asshole. Which I did. Yet that is conveniently over looked by Minny and others calling me a keyboard cowboy.

Other intros I approach differently.

Not sure how since you say you're not an expert that you can claim that a more gentle approach would be more effective on 90% of the population. Really? Do you have any stats to back that up? Do you go into a physicians office and just make shit up and try and sell it?

Also not getting your tough guy driver analysis, other than you think I'm some kind of fake tough guy.

Very chiildish by you. I'm here to quit and help others do the same. I'm not a WWF wrestler walking around with some fake persona. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your problem.

Bottom line is I will not tolerate being blamed for even 1% of a person leaving this site and will fight tooth and nail to let it be known that I'm not jus some "keyboard cowboy". I truly care and want to help others quit. If you don't agree with my methods, tough shit.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on September 10, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
I get where Minny is coming from, I mean it's cool, in an immature way, to rant on when you see someone posting on OUR site and they are still dipping.

In all likelihood, the chance of them staying on-board, would be higher if you would calmly explain how things work here. They are obviously looking for help, not for someone to yell at them and belittle them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you, you have proved that you are an awesome quitter but a more gentle approach will be more effective on 90% of the population.

I am no expert on quitting an addiction but I am a very successful sales rep so I know how to deal with the general population and my "general population" is all physicians, whom are the worst to deal with.

Some of the attitudes I see are not much different than the "brave and cocky" guys behind a steering wheel, who will cut you off and throw you a finger. Get them out of the car and it's an entire different story. Similar to calling someone Minnie Mouse .
I don't give a fuck if you're Zig Fucking Zigler. I am a successful salesman too. I sell tooling to tool and die shops. So the fuck what?

I've never sold to someone in an nicotine/chew intro forum before, have you? Not really sure you are compairing apples to apple's here.

The way I approach it is every intro I read I as different, just like every quit is. When I read this dude's intro I had a feeling he was pussy footing about quitting. I've seen it before. Usually when that happens I try and get that persons attention by snapping them off some tough talk to piss them off a little bit, but I also don't want to lose them so I try to explain WHY and that I'm not just being an asshole. Which I did. Yet that is conveniently over looked by Minny and others calling me a keyboard cowboy.

Other intros I approach differently.

Not sure how since you say you're not an expert that you can claim that a more gentle approach would be more effective on 90% of the population. Really? Do you have any stats to back that up? Do you go into a physicians office and just make shit up and try and sell it?

Also not getting your tough guy driver analysis, other than you think I'm some kind of fake tough guy.

Very chiildish by you. I'm here to quit and help others do the same. I'm not a WWF wrestler walking around with some fake persona. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your problem.

Bottom line is I will not tolerate being blamed for even 1% of a person leaving this site and will fight tooth and nail to let it be known that I'm not jus some "keyboard cowboy". I truly care and want to help others quit. If you don't agree with my methods, tough shit.
You are funny.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 10, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: ffmoofus
This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
I get where Minny is coming from, I mean it's cool, in an immature way, to rant on when you see someone posting on OUR site and they are still dipping.

In all likelihood, the chance of them staying on-board, would be higher if you would calmly explain how things work here. They are obviously looking for help, not for someone to yell at them and belittle them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you, you have proved that you are an awesome quitter but a more gentle approach will be more effective on 90% of the population.

I am no expert on quitting an addiction but I am a very successful sales rep so I know how to deal with the general population and my "general population" is all physicians, whom are the worst to deal with.

Some of the attitudes I see are not much different than the "brave and cocky" guys behind a steering wheel, who will cut you off and throw you a finger. Get them out of the car and it's an entire different story. Similar to calling someone Minnie Mouse .
I don't give a fuck if you're Zig Fucking Zigler. I am a successful salesman too. I sell tooling to tool and die shops. So the fuck what?

I've never sold to someone in an nicotine/chew intro forum before, have you? Not really sure you are compairing apples to apple's here.

The way I approach it is every intro I read I as different, just like every quit is. When I read this dude's intro I had a feeling he was pussy footing about quitting. I've seen it before. Usually when that happens I try and get that persons attention by snapping them off some tough talk to piss them off a little bit, but I also don't want to lose them so I try to explain WHY and that I'm not just being an asshole. Which I did. Yet that is conveniently over looked by Minny and others calling me a keyboard cowboy.

Other intros I approach differently.

Not sure how since you say you're not an expert that you can claim that a more gentle approach would be more effective on 90% of the population. Really? Do you have any stats to back that up? Do you go into a physicians office and just make shit up and try and sell it?

Also not getting your tough guy driver analysis, other than you think I'm some kind of fake tough guy.

Very chiildish by you. I'm here to quit and help others do the same. I'm not a WWF wrestler walking around with some fake persona. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your problem.

Bottom line is I will not tolerate being blamed for even 1% of a person leaving this site and will fight tooth and nail to let it be known that I'm not jus some "keyboard cowboy". I truly care and want to help others quit. If you don't agree with my methods, tough shit.
You are funny.
Let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ffmoofus on September 10, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
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This probably should go in a PM to Minnie Mouse but since he chose to put it here that we're all assholes and dipshits, I feel obliged to chime in as one of the aforementioned assholes and dipshits. I may be an asshole or a dipshit in your opinion Minnie but for you to come in here and quit and then to cave a few days later is about the same as a slap in the face to the rest of us who walked in and didn't just take a sip of the KTC Kool-aid but actually took the glass and chugged it. I've been quit for 297 days and have not caved. I'm not going to take any bullshit excuse for a cave either. You want to say you lead a stressful life and that caused you to cave? Come take a walk in my shoes for a few days and see how stressful life really can be. I have more stress than most on the forums but I don't flaunt that here. We're all here for a reason and everyone that knows me around these forums knows that I can be reached 24/7/365. Do I have to pick up my phone at 2 am for someone that I have never met in person? No. Will I? Absolutely. For you to disrespect some of the best quitters on this site, I must say you have some balls. Diesel has been there for every one of us whether we know it or not. He might not have ever said a word to you, but I know hes sitting at his house praying that someone doesn't cave today. He knows it can happen to any one of us. Just seeing you call him a "keyboard cowboy" makes me want to kick the shit out of you. Diesel has his style for talking to quitters. It works for some but not all. We all have our own style. You know who was one of the ones to push me to quit? Diesel. I owe my life to Diesel. If you don't like his style or anyone elses, you can go fuck yourself in my opinion. I don't regret for an instant, taking Diesel and Waketech's advice.

That being said, Fuck you minnie. If you feel like you have anything else to say, come at me bro and I'll show you how to be a badass quitter.
Damn!!!!

ffmoo is fired UP!!!

So am I!!!!

Can't believe blame is being placed on me for this. Fuck does this piss me off.

But then again, I'm just a keyboard cowboy.

#STEAMING
He got me fired up with all his bullshit. I also sent this to him in a PM just to make sure he sees it. I'm not one for the intro threads as actions speak louder than words in my opinion but for a quitter to come and ask me to chime in on something, it means that my opinion is being asked for. I'll gladly give my opinion if its asked for.
I've been called every name in the book in my time here, but NEVER have I been blamed for someone not quitting. Nor would I ever blame another person.
I get where Minny is coming from, I mean it's cool, in an immature way, to rant on when you see someone posting on OUR site and they are still dipping.

In all likelihood, the chance of them staying on-board, would be higher if you would calmly explain how things work here. They are obviously looking for help, not for someone to yell at them and belittle them.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you, you have proved that you are an awesome quitter but a more gentle approach will be more effective on 90% of the population.

I am no expert on quitting an addiction but I am a very successful sales rep so I know how to deal with the general population and my "general population" is all physicians, whom are the worst to deal with.

Some of the attitudes I see are not much different than the "brave and cocky" guys behind a steering wheel, who will cut you off and throw you a finger. Get them out of the car and it's an entire different story. Similar to calling someone Minnie Mouse .
I don't give a fuck if you're Zig Fucking Zigler. I am a successful salesman too. I sell tooling to tool and die shops. So the fuck what?

I've never sold to someone in an nicotine/chew intro forum before, have you? Not really sure you are compairing apples to apple's here.

The way I approach it is every intro I read I as different, just like every quit is. When I read this dude's intro I had a feeling he was pussy footing about quitting. I've seen it before. Usually when that happens I try and get that persons attention by snapping them off some tough talk to piss them off a little bit, but I also don't want to lose them so I try to explain WHY and that I'm not just being an asshole. Which I did. Yet that is conveniently over looked by Minny and others calling me a keyboard cowboy.

Other intros I approach differently.

Not sure how since you say you're not an expert that you can claim that a more gentle approach would be more effective on 90% of the population. Really? Do you have any stats to back that up? Do you go into a physicians office and just make shit up and try and sell it?

Also not getting your tough guy driver analysis, other than you think I'm some kind of fake tough guy.

Very chiildish by you. I'm here to quit and help others do the same. I'm not a WWF wrestler walking around with some fake persona. If you choose to believe otherwise, that's your problem.

Bottom line is I will not tolerate being blamed for even 1% of a person leaving this site and will fight tooth and nail to let it be known that I'm not jus some "keyboard cowboy". I truly care and want to help others quit. If you don't agree with my methods, tough shit.
You are funny.
Apparently you're in the same style as Minny, Paradigm. Some people just need the tough guy act to quit. I sure as hell did. If it wasn't for Diesel's tough guy act, I'd probably still be killing myself. Diesel knows what hes doing. Hes been around a while and is a pretty good judge of character. He can usually see thru the bullshit. Apparently you can't. I could tell by the first few posts of this thread that H2Q was not going to be around long. I even talked to him myself in chat and knew he wasn't serious about it. Diesel saw the same thing I saw and called him out on it. You guys need to be less judgemental of people and trust the guys that have been here before you. They have seen more and heard more than you. They know what they're doing. Its just that simple.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: billybill3934 on September 10, 2013, 03:31:00 PM
I have been hearing all about this pissing contest in here and I have skimmed through the mountain of posts and the one thing that sticks out to me is that I see a ton of energy going into this rediculous shit and I have yet to see anyone spend this much time and effort actually helping new quitters and/or the site. There are more important things that can be attended to and that is what I expect you mature adults to do from here on out. Today I found out that my friend has 2 days left to live because of a cancer that originated from dipping. This wasted time and effort could be spent supporting new quitters damn it!!!!!!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on September 10, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
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I have been hearing all about this pissing contest in here and I have skimmed through the mountain of posts and the one thing that sticks out to me is that I see a ton of energy going into this rediculous shit and I have yet to see anyone spend this much time and effort actually helping new quitters and/or the site. There are more important things that can be attended to and that is what I expect you mature adults to do from here on out. Today I found out that my friend has 2 days left to live because of a cancer that originated from dipping. This wasted time and effort could be spent supporting new quitters damn it!!!!!!
Good call buddy, we are all in this together and you are correct.

I am out of this conversation and on to trying to help others'.

Sorry to hear about your friend.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Diesel2112 on September 10, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
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I have been hearing all about this pissing contest in here and I have skimmed through the mountain of posts and the one thing that sticks out to me is that I see a ton of energy going into this rediculous shit and I have yet to see anyone spend this much time and effort actually helping new quitters and/or the site. There are more important things that can be attended to and that is what I expect you mature adults to do from here on out. Today I found out that my friend has 2 days left to live because of a cancer that originated from dipping. This wasted time and effort could be spent supporting new quitters damn it!!!!!!
Sorry to hear about your friend. Prayers to everyone involved.

But this isn't a pissing match to me. If I try to help someone in the future and I'm deemed as some blowhard, why would anyone listen to me? I'm trying to clear my name and have spent many more hours helping quitters. I'm mature but I have some pride too. I will say my peace regardless.

This isn't the only thread on here. Plenty of helping going on on this site.

Don't like what you see here, move on...
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Mike from AB on September 10, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
Didn't get involved in this thread before, but just here now to say prayers sent up for Billy's friend  family  everybody involved.