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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Hellya on March 27, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
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Hi everyone,
My name is Zach and I had my last chaw (or dip) 2 days ago. I am 23 years old and chewed for about 4 years. I have been on this site all day reading but am now just getting to posting. The last 2 days have felt like I have spent 2 weeks on a mental roller coaster. I have felt like I was hallucinating at several different points, which was quite a surprise. I am determined to quit and look forward to meeting you guys!
Zach
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Hi everyone,
My name is Zach and I had my last chaw (or dip) 2 days ago. I am 23 years old and chewed for about 4 years. I have been on this site all day reading but am now just getting to posting. The last 2 days have felt like I have spent 2 weeks on a mental roller coaster. I have felt like I was hallucinating at several different points, which was quite a surprise. I am determined to quit and look forward to meeting you guys!
Zach
Like I said in chat, this place works if you want it to! Read the welcome center if you haven't yet and nice job on your first roll post. Hit me with a pm if I can be of any help.
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Hi everyone,
My name is Zach and I had my last chaw (or dip) 2 days ago. I am 23 years old and chewed for about 4 years. I have been on this site all day reading but am now just getting to posting. The last 2 days have felt like I have spent 2 weeks on a mental roller coaster. I have felt like I was hallucinating at several different points, which was quite a surprise. I am determined to quit and look forward to meeting you guys!
Zach
Like I said in chat, this place works if you want it to! Read the welcome center if you haven't yet and nice job on your first roll post. Hit me with a pm if I can be of any help.
What Mich said!!!^^^^
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Hi everyone,
My name is Zach and I had my last chaw (or dip) 2 days ago. I am 23 years old and chewed for about 4 years. I have been on this site all day reading but am now just getting to posting. The last 2 days have felt like I have spent 2 weeks on a mental roller coaster. I have felt like I was hallucinating at several different points, which was quite a surprise. I am determined to quit and look forward to meeting you guys!
Zach
Like I said in chat, this place works if you want it to! Read the welcome center if you haven't yet and nice job on your first roll post. Hit me with a pm if I can be of any help.
Nice to meet you in chat Zach. Always nice to know another MI quitter. It looks like that link was helpful. I see you have posted role. Posting role each morning will be the back bone of your quit. I suggest you also reach out and grab a few numbers as soon as possible. It pays dividends to have a few people you can call if the craves get tough. I quit with you today.
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Welcome to ktc and congrats on making the best decision and kicking that evil can to the curb. If you need anything at all feel free to pm me. Their are a lot of bad ass quitters on here that will drop anything to help a fellow quitter in need.
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Welcome! You are making the right choice... love life bro! The grass is greener on this side of the fence!
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Hell Yeah Hellya! Great to see you joining up with all the fine quitters here. Looks like you posted roll so all you have to do is keep that promise today. Don't let that determination fade cause the first few days are rough. Stay close to KTC for now. When it gets rough reach out cause there are plenty of folks here that are more than happy to lend a hand to a fresh bad ass quitter. Shoot me a PM if you need anything.
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Hi everyone,
My name is Zach and I had my last chaw (or dip) 2 days ago. I am 23 years old and chewed for about 4 years. I have been on this site all day reading but am now just getting to posting. The last 2 days have felt like I have spent 2 weeks on a mental roller coaster. I have felt like I was hallucinating at several different points, which was quite a surprise. I am determined to quit and look forward to meeting you guys!
Zach
Welcome Hellya! We are glad you are here! Remember there is a shit pile of bad asses here who would love to help you. Get into your quit group collect names and numbers brother. You can never have to many people willing to help you.
Were here with you, Welcome!
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Welcome to the toughest most self rewarding thing you will do for yourself. Only advice I can give is:
1) Post everyday, if you cant text a brother and have them post for you! I am as affraid of letting my brothers here down as I am myself. Caving is not an option. However this quit needs to be for YOU!
2) Stay away from booze, at 23 that may be tough. Booze and the Nic bitch wispering in your ear will kill a quit fast.
3) Tell your chew buddies you quit, if there cheap asses like mine they will be happy.
4) Reward yourself, you are going to be saving some cash, buy yourself something awsome to modivate the quit. At 100 days I'm adding a HK 45 to the waist and its costing nothing that I wouldn't have spent on chew.
5) Reach out, chat, text, read. You will need it and we need to help. Helping you helps our quit.
Most important: DON'T BE A PUSSY! Caving is not an option. What ever effort you put in we will put into you. Don't waste our time! POST!
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Well guys, I'm back. I quit last year, and was quit for 234 days before I stupidly caved. But I am back and I will not cave this time.
I am 24 and live in East Lansing, MI. Not married (yet), and no kids for a while. I chewed Grizzly Green pretty much exclusively, for about 5 years.
I wrestled and played football for 10 years, and train a little in MMA here and there once in a while. I start Medical School at Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine in June with my GF of the last 4 years, and am very excited.
Can't wait to see some old friends and apologize for letting them down, as well as meet some new ones!
Zach
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Well guys, I'm back. I quit last year, and was quit for 234 days before I stupidly caved. But I am back and I will not cave this time.
I am 24 and live in East Lansing, MI. Not married (yet), and no kids for a while. I chewed Grizzly Green pretty much exclusively, for about 5 years.
I wrestled and played football for 10 years, and train a little in MMA here and there once in a while. I start Medical School at Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine in June with my GF of the last 4 years, and am very excited.
Can't wait to see some old friends and apologize for letting them down, as well as meet some new ones!
Zach
Since you quit - err, stopped - already, you know how the site works. I believe you owe an explanation, partially for you and partially for us.
1. Why did you cave?
2. Why is this time different?
3. What have you done to protect against another cave?
Own your cave, tell us why you are serious and start posting roll. PM me for a number, and let's dump this nic bitch like the crazy ho she is.
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
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Fellow Spartan, I am proud to be quit with you today. Let's both make Sparty proud and do this EDD!
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While I personally don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan, I am glad you decided to come back after your "stop" answer the 3 questions with thought and sincerity and lets get this quit going. Let me know if I can do anything to help.
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
WOW looks like Apple is on you already 234 now you are back in the grinder. NAFAR means this to me never again for any reason...a day 1 I cant think of worse way to start a day then w a day count of one...but on the other hand you need a day one to come back. How bout we do it right this time become accountable to the men and women of this site and become entrenched in the KTC system it works.
Trauma 386 your July 13 group member
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
WOW looks like Apple is on you already 234 now you are back in the grinder. NAFAR means this to me never again for any reason...a day 1 I cant think of worse way to start a day then w a day count of one...but on the other hand you need a day one to come back. How bout we do it right this time become accountable to the men and women of this site and become entrenched in the KTC system it works.
Trauma 386 your July 13 group member
Looking back over your prior posts, it looks like you didn't post roll very regularly and you didn't post anything in your original intro after the initial posting. I'm usually a pretty supportive person on here but I won't be wasting my time following you unless you show a lot more commitment from the beginning.
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
WOW looks like Apple is on you already 234 now you are back in the grinder. NAFAR means this to me never again for any reason...a day 1 I cant think of worse way to start a day then w a day count of one...but on the other hand you need a day one to come back. How bout we do it right this time become accountable to the men and women of this site and become entrenched in the KTC system it works.
Trauma 386 your July 13 group member
Looking back over your prior posts, it looks like you didn't post roll very regularly and you didn't post anything in your original intro after the initial posting. I'm usually a pretty supportive person on here but I won't be wasting my time following you unless you show a lot more commitment from the beginning.
And that means you won't get to see Apogee's avatar!
Damn that thing is freaky!
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Your stoppage stats
Days stopped using nicotine: 234
Caves since stopping: countless
Posts: 156 total
Rolls posted since re-posting your intro: 0
Times visited website today (as of this statitical posting): 0
Conclusion: Weak. So weak. I am so unconvinced you have any idea on how to actually quit nicotine. Quitting requires dedication to and ownership of the quit. You have neither. Your posts should outweigh your days quit, this shows involvement on the site - building accountability and brotherhood. Posting roll, the foundation of quitting, is paramount and not negotiable. Post roll every day. I'd expect more from someone who purports to have had 234 consecutive days without using nicotine.
My view of those who cave, I am glad you are here. It shows initiative and humility (sometimes). But I also know that talk is cheap. Prove me wrong.
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
It feels fucking horrible AppleJack.
Working on that right now
Will head over to the old group today as well.
I learned a hell of a lot over those 234 days, but apparently not enough. This time will be different.
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Fellow Spartan, I am proud to be quit with you today. Let's both make Sparty proud and do this EDD!
Thank you man! I appreciate the support!
When did you graduate?
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
WOW looks like Apple is on you already 234 now you are back in the grinder. NAFAR means this to me never again for any reason...a day 1 I cant think of worse way to start a day then w a day count of one...but on the other hand you need a day one to come back. How bout we do it right this time become accountable to the men and women of this site and become entrenched in the KTC system it works.
Trauma 386 your July 13 group member
Thank you Trauma. You are right, Day 1 and 2 have been horrible, but its been better than not restarting and having a new day 1 and 2.
Sounds good to me!
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You were in my group... July '13. How does it feel man? I'm getting close to hitting 400 days. You'd be around that if you had taken this seriously. I'm glad you're back bro but... You need to do this right this time. You have a few things to address...
1... Stick to the original intro you wrote. You don't get another one.
2... You need to post up in your new August group and explain to them
What happened?... Why did it happen?... What are you going to do differently this time?
They deserve real answers. Dig deep and let's hear something we can all learn from.
3... You need to come back to your old group and explain the exact same thing. You pissed on 234 days dude... Did you not learn a damn thing!? This is life and death. Don't be another casualty...
WOW looks like Apple is on you already 234 now you are back in the grinder. NAFAR means this to me never again for any reason...a day 1 I cant think of worse way to start a day then w a day count of one...but on the other hand you need a day one to come back. How bout we do it right this time become accountable to the men and women of this site and become entrenched in the KTC system it works.
Trauma 386 your July 13 group member
Thank you Trauma. You are right, Day 1 and 2 have been horrible, but its been better than not restarting and having a new day 1 and 2.
Sounds good to me!
RESPECT THIS HOUSE!!!
Either answer:
(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What is your detailed emergency action plan?
Or GET GONE
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Hellya, you will have my support as a quitter and an alum, but you HAVE to answer the 3 questions. Be accountable to us, and we will be accountable to you.
(1) What happened?
(2) Why did it happen?
(3) What is your detailed emergency action plan?
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1. Why did you cave?
IÂ’ll just tell the story.
I was on my way back from Central Michigan University after an interview for their medical school. I was on day 234. I all of a sudden had an insanely bad crave for a chaw, and at that moment I subconsciously knew the nic-bitch had beat me. I had had intense craves before but this one was different. I spent the next probably 30 minutes arguing with myself and eventually my weak ass broke and I went into a gas station and bought a tin.
2. Why is this time different?
Before that last quit my longest quit had been for 11 days. I had never before dealt with the craves that I had experienced in the first. I now know what is coming and I am better prepared to beat the nic-bitch.
While my mind was fully invested in KTC my last quit, my actions did not follow through, and I think that is what lead to my cave. I know better now.
Plus I am done with this shit. I am sick of worrying if every little oddity in my mouth or feeling in my throat and stomach are cancer. I’m sick of going through countless fucking steps to hide my addiction from my loved ones. I’m sick of not enjoying anything in life, because all I care about is getting that next dip. But most of all, I’m sick of the way this shit makes me feel. When I was using chew, I felt as though I had the ‘fog’ 24/7, and it is fucking miserable, absolutely miserable. Chewing is not worth this shit, period.
3. What have you done to protect against another cave?
I was one of those secret chewers who hid it from my girlfriend, parents, sibling etc. I have made sure to let them know every single method I used to pull off my secret chaws. I have printed off and signed the quit contract (did not last time), and making damn sure I post roll EVERY DAMN DAY. I have also made promises to my best friend and girlfriend to call them to talk me through a crave and prevent me from caving. I plan on making similar promises to several of the members here. If anyone wants to be one of those shoot me a pm, and I will be extremely grateful.
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1. Why did you cave?
IÂ’ll just tell the story.
I was on my way back from Central Michigan University after an interview for their medical school. I was on day 234. I all of a sudden had an insanely bad crave for a chaw, and at that moment I subconsciously knew the nic-bitch had beat me. I had had intense craves before but this one was different. I spent the next probably 30 minutes arguing with myself and eventually my weak ass broke and I went into a gas station and bought a tin.
2. Why is this time different?
Before that last quit my longest quit had been for 11 days. I had never before dealt with the craves that I had experienced in the first. I now know what is coming and I am better prepared to beat the nic-bitch.
While my mind was fully invested in KTC my last quit, my actions did not follow through, and I think that is what lead to my cave. I know better now.
Plus I am done with this shit. I am sick of worrying if every little oddity in my mouth or feeling in my throat and stomach are cancer. I’m sick of going through countless fucking steps to hide my addiction from my loved ones. I’m sick of not enjoying anything in life, because all I care about is getting that next dip. But most of all, I’m sick of the way this shit makes me feel. When I was using chew, I felt as though I had the ‘fog’ 24/7, and it is fucking miserable, absolutely miserable. Chewing is not worth this shit, period.
3. What have you done to protect against another cave?
I was one of those secret chewers who hid it from my girlfriend, parents, sibling etc. I have made sure to let them know every single method I used to pull off my secret chaws. I have printed off and signed the quit contract (did not last time), and making damn sure I post roll EVERY DAMN DAY. I have also made promises to my best friend and girlfriend to call them to talk me through a crave and prevent me from caving. I plan on making similar promises to several of the members here. If anyone wants to be one of those shoot me a pm, and I will be extremely grateful.
Your answer to #1 bothers me... alot.
We've all had bad craves bro. Hell... the first 30 days were a damn near constant fight. You... at 234 days... have a fairly bad crave and were defeated? No. Nope. You gave up. You wanted it. You let her win.
What was so different and universe changing about this one particular crave? We need to know this cuz, honestly, I was pretty sure that every instance of craving, from fleeting thought to hardcore contemplation, was just the addict in me trying to get out. I was pretty sure that after 234 days I had the tools and the people at my disposal to help me through it. To beat it. BUT... if there's that ONE craving that just shoots it all to hell... this entire community needs to know about it. Do tell.
Who was in your phone you could have called or texted?
These answers are for you too bro. You need to see the holes in your quit armor and shore them up. Tight.
I want you to beat this... to win. Do you?
Own it and freedom is yours
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1. Why did you cave?
IÂ’ll just tell the story.
I was on my way back from Central Michigan University after an interview for their medical school. I was on day 234. I all of a sudden had an insanely bad crave for a chaw, and at that moment I subconsciously knew the nic-bitch had beat me. I had had intense craves before but this one was different. I spent the next probably 30 minutes arguing with myself and eventually my weak ass broke and I went into a gas station and bought a tin.
2. Why is this time different?
Before that last quit my longest quit had been for 11 days. I had never before dealt with the craves that I had experienced in the first. I now know what is coming and I am better prepared to beat the nic-bitch.
While my mind was fully invested in KTC my last quit, my actions did not follow through, and I think that is what lead to my cave. I know better now.
Plus I am done with this shit. I am sick of worrying if every little oddity in my mouth or feeling in my throat and stomach are cancer. I’m sick of going through countless fucking steps to hide my addiction from my loved ones. I’m sick of not enjoying anything in life, because all I care about is getting that next dip. But most of all, I’m sick of the way this shit makes me feel. When I was using chew, I felt as though I had the ‘fog’ 24/7, and it is fucking miserable, absolutely miserable. Chewing is not worth this shit, period.
3. What have you done to protect against another cave?
I was one of those secret chewers who hid it from my girlfriend, parents, sibling etc. I have made sure to let them know every single method I used to pull off my secret chaws. I have printed off and signed the quit contract (did not last time), and making damn sure I post roll EVERY DAMN DAY. I have also made promises to my best friend and girlfriend to call them to talk me through a crave and prevent me from caving. I plan on making similar promises to several of the members here. If anyone wants to be one of those shoot me a pm, and I will be extremely grateful.
Your answer to #1 bothers me... alot.
We've all had bad craves bro. Hell... the first 30 days were a damn near constant fight. You... at 234 days... have a fairly bad crave and were defeated? No. Nope. You gave up. You wanted it. You let her win.
What was so different and universe changing about this one particular crave? We need to know this cuz, honestly, I was pretty sure that every instance of craving, from fleeting thought to hardcore contemplation, was just the addict in me trying to get out. I was pretty sure that after 234 days I had the tools and the people at my disposal to help me through it. To beat it. BUT... if there's that ONE craving that just shoots it all to hell... this entire community needs to know about it. Do tell.
Who was in your phone you could have called or texted?
These answers are for you too bro. You need to see the holes in your quit armor and shore them up. Tight.
I want you to beat this... to win. Do you?
Own it and freedom is yours
Holy Fuck, you have some of the best quitters in your group, and you cave. I respect 5 people form that group alone so much that I will not cave merely because I promised them. I have posted for 298 days straight, most of them I even posted with July 13 too. My advice use the tools, look deep reflect and avoid every trigger.
I could have caved many times by now, but I chose to nut u and stay quit. Hell you even have one bad ass chick form your group and she has more testicular fortitude to stay quit than you showed.
There's a whole lot of badass quitters here ready to chew your ass today, guess what they will support you too, it only takes a little effort.
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A little retrospective on my quit fail
I was cruising along, not even thinking about chaw for weeks at a time when I fell for the good ole' "I'll just have one" trick of the nic bitch. I had ignored that hundreds of times and I don't know how or why this one was different other than it was. When it came I knew it had beat me, and I fought with myself for 30 minutes knowing the whole time that I would cave. It was on a 3 hour road trip by myself and it was the second dumbest mistake of my life (after starting in the first place). It was ultimately because I grew overconfident and did not put the effort into quitting. My roll posting was shit, I didn't communicate with others on here, and ultimately forgot that I was an addict.
We are addicted to the nic no matter how long we have been without her. We have to remember that. We can't go long periods not remembering that we are addicts, and I think that is what posting roll is all about. Saying yep, I'm an addict, but no nic for me today.
Always remember you are addicted, remind yourself every damn day so you don't make the same mistake I did.
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A little retrospective on my quit fail
I was cruising along, not even thinking about chaw for weeks at a time when I fell for the good ole' "I'll just have one" trick of the nic bitch. I had ignored that hundreds of times and I don't know how or why this one was different other than it was. When it came I knew it had beat me, and I fought with myself for 30 minutes knowing the whole time that I would cave. It was on a 3 hour road trip by myself and it was the second dumbest mistake of my life (after starting in the first place). It was ultimately because I grew overconfident and did not put the effort into quitting. My roll posting was shit, I didn't communicate with others on here, and ultimately forgot that I was an addict.
We are addicted to the nic no matter how long we have been without her. We have to remember that. We can't go long periods not remembering that we are addicts, and I think that is what posting roll is all about. Saying yep, I'm an addict, but no nic for me today.
Always remember you are addicted, remind yourself every damn day so you don't make the same mistake I did.
Hey man! You had my number! That's why we give our digits out to one another. You need to ask permission to cave. Last time I checked I didn't get a text or call from you!
Your last line, "Always remember you are addicted..." You are an addict and you have been given a second chance. Don't screw this up again as you may not be given another. You have answered the three questions to my satisfaction. Post roll everyday and be accountable to everyone who supports you. I would like to see you post roll in July 2013 also, since that's where you started and left everyone after you boarded the HOF train.
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Congratulations on the HOF Train brother! You made it for a second time. You have been seen and more vocal this time around. I hope this trip was more memorable and painful than the last as you will remember it more so you won't have to go through this again. 100 days quit, HOF, it's just one milestone of many. Keep being accountable to your new group, your old group and to as many people as you can. Continue to make new friends and invest your time and wisdom in the lives of new quitters. Proud of you brother!
Quit on, EDD!
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Nicely done man!
Here's the thing... This isn't the end bro. It's a great milestone and one to celebrate no doubt! Keep adding those +1's and never forget day 1.
Rock on m'man...
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Hey man, Im joe and im 19, and i had been dipping for 4 years as well until about 9 days ago. Withdrawal sucks, and I know that, but if you have a good support system and the actual will to follow through with this, it will get better. Day 4 for me was my worst day, and everything got better after that. So keep it going my man.