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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: fowlmouth on October 01, 2015, 12:47:00 PM
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Hi Team,
I have three kiddos and a wife who put up with me; and I want to stop being a selfish and moody asshole to them. I don't want to spend $2,000/year to be a slave to nicotine any more. I don't want to poison my body.
But today I am struggling. I started Monday (28 September, Day 0) wearing a 21mg patch. The patch didn't do jack for my 15 year 1-2 tin/day habit, so I decided to rip the patch off and go completely nicotine free for Tuesday. This week has been hell. I almost caved multiple times. I have quit so many times before, but I want this one to stick. I ordered some herbal stuff off the internet, but it doesn't arrive until tonight. I shoved coffee grounds in my mouth this morning, and I might keep doing that to get through today. As I type this, it feels like every single nerve is exposed on my body; there is a demon squeezing my heart; my body is screaming at me to give in and silence the pain.
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Hi Team,
I have three kiddos and a wife who put up with me; and I want to stop being a selfish and moody asshole to them. I don't want to spend $2,000/year to be a slave to nicotine any more. I don't want to poison my body.
But today I am struggling. I started Monday (28 September, Day 0) wearing a 21mg patch. The patch didn't do jack for my 15 year 1-2 tin/day habit, so I decided to rip the patch off and go completely nicotine free for Tuesday. This week has been hell. I almost caved multiple times. I have quit so many times before, but I want this one to stick. I ordered some herbal stuff off the internet, but it doesn't arrive until tonight. I shoved coffee grounds in my mouth this morning, and I might keep doing that to get through today. As I type this, it feels like every single nerve is exposed on my body; there is a demon squeezing my heart; my body is screaming at me to give in and silence the pain.
Ok we are here for you brother. The great news is you are 3 days into the best decision of your life. I promise, 3 more days from now you will lokk back and see that day 3-5 were a bitch and it will be gradually getting better. Take your ass straight to "QUIT GROUPS", then scroll down to Jan 2016 quit group on the lower half of the page. Here you will post roll. This will be the foundation of your quit. Each morning login, post roll and promise your brothers and sisters here that you will remain nic free for the whole day. Accountability. They will do the same. Brotherhood. You can do this, just like we are doing it every single day. We are all addicts just like you, who currently are going through the same things or recently have. Stay strong, and just quit for today!
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Thanks, Pete. Roll posted!
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Good Stuff Fowl! Congratulations. Pete is 100% spot on. You are only going to start feeling better if you stop. If you cave and try and come back, you will have to go through these tough days again, and it will be even harder.
Stay with it brother, dive into this site, read lot. Get to know your quit brothers. they are really starting to come together.
Proud to be quit with you today!
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Welcome to KTC Fowlmouth,
I know you are feeling like shit right now and are in the middle of the "suck". Just worry about today. ODAAT really does work. In time you will look back on what you are going through and just feel grateful to never have to go thru this again. Life on the other side of the suck and being truly free from nicotines clutches is freaking awesome! You just have to hang in there day by day to find out. Good job posting roll. That is the key to all of this craziness!
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I like that attitude, shove anything in your mouth that you need to over the next few days except for dip, and soon you will be sailing fine. You have a bad case of withdrawal symptoms as your brain gets used to being off nicotine. Now you know what a grip this drug has on your brain, and now that you know, how can you ever go back to being a slave?
Have patience, trust the advice you are getting here, and believe in yourself. You only need to get through today. Don't worry about the forever, you only live in the present.
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I know you are quit because that was a great description of the suck! Cold Turkey is the only way. I patched for a month and it was a total waste of time. Quit Like Fuck today!
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Hi Team,
I have three kiddos and a wife who put up with me; and I want to stop being a selfish and moody asshole to them. I don't want to spend $2,000/year to be a slave to nicotine any more. I don't want to poison my body.
But today I am struggling. I started Monday (28 September, Day 0) wearing a 21mg patch. The patch didn't do jack for my 15 year 1-2 tin/day habit, so I decided to rip the patch off and go completely nicotine free for Tuesday. This week has been hell. I almost caved multiple times. I have quit so many times before, but I want this one to stick. I ordered some herbal stuff off the internet, but it doesn't arrive until tonight. I shoved coffee grounds in my mouth this morning, and I might keep doing that to get through today. As I type this, it feels like every single nerve is exposed on my body; there is a demon squeezing my heart; my body is screaming at me to give in and silence the pain.
Ok we are here for you brother. The great news is you are 3 days into the best decision of your life. I promise, 3 more days from now you will lokk back and see that day 3-5 were a bitch and it will be gradually getting better. Take your ass straight to "QUIT GROUPS", then scroll down to Jan 2016 quit group on the lower half of the page. Here you will post roll. This will be the foundation of your quit. Each morning login, post roll and promise your brothers and sisters here that you will remain nic free for the whole day. Accountability. They will do the same. Brotherhood. You can do this, just like we are doing it every single day. We are all addicts just like you, who currently are going through the same things or recently have. Stay strong, and just quit for today!
This is the best decision of you life. Get rid of the patch. Cold Turkey is the only way to go. The nicotine is almost out of your body. Chug loads of water, chew the shit out of gum, candy, the fake stuff. put anything in your mouth you can except for that nic bitch. read everything you can on ths site. It definately helps when you are starting to feel those cravings. Post roll EDD, make the promise, keep the promise, wake up the next day and do it again. One Day at a Time (ODAAT) is how we roll. Your support is right here!
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As I type this, it feels like every single nerve is exposed on my body; there is a demon squeezing my heart; my body is screaming at me to give in and silence the pain.
Do you know what this feeling is? F-R-E-E-D-O-M. Your body is going bananas because you have removed the nicotine pacifier from your mouth. Your body has become so dependent upon that poison to function that by removing it from the calculus has thrown your body for a loop. Your brain is now getting oxygen it had long been deprived of, your emotions are functioning with an anesthetic, and you ARE WINNING! It sucks for awhile, no lie, but unless you are a complete sadist, you will never look back on a day that you were clean and wish you had poisoned yourself that day.
Grind it out these first few days and you will be done with physical stuff. Either you control nicotine or nicotine controls you. Your choice my man.
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Congratulations on making the decision to quit.
Post roll every morning and keep that promise that you will not use nicotine for that day. That promise in front of the brotherhood is the only cost to the amazing knowledge and support in here.
Drink lots and lots of water. It will help your body flush out the toxins. Read and post on here. There are great posts that I used to get through the first week on Words of Wisdom and Hall of Fame.
PM me if you ever need support.
I am damn proud to quit with you today.
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That is awesome!!! Congrats on a great choice. Post roll, read everything you can (the Tom and Jenny Kern Story, for sure), and live free.
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Atta boy! Get some! I better be seeing you in 96 days when we go HOF together! 'Remshot'
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Hi dude. Welcome. I've been quit for a while and wanted to thank you for your post today. It is spot on to what day 3 is like and reminded me of the absolute fucking bullshit withdrawal that we all went through. Life is so great without that crap in it that it is easy to forget. What I'm saying is.., you will never go through this again. This is not the new normal... Like the stomach flu, this hell will pass. And,one day at a time, greatness is ahead.
Welcome aboard.
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Hey Fowl!
What you described IS hell, to be sure. But also know that it's incredibly important that you always remember how badly day 3 sucked. Turn what is a very uncomfortable feeling now into a great motivational tool to use in the future. NO ONE wants to repeat their day 3.
On the upside, this gets so, so much more better, man. Just hang in there and use your tools on this website.
Welcome to the site!
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Fowl, congrats on the quit. Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You got this!
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Hello Fowl,
I am a little late to the party sage advice has been given to you by some heavy hitters from this site, up to you to put in the work...like has been said earlier take it one day at time forever in the face of an addict is just not concievable(WP).
Another thing I can add is lets work on your terminology you have never quit before what you have done is have a "stoppage" because we quit only once.
What I did early on is chug mass amounts of water and cranberry juice it helps flush out the nicotine and ate tons of seeds. After today the nicotine is withdrawal should be coming to an end and now begins the mental game...from here on out you will need to build the foundation of your quit drink the kool-aid there are tons of addicts here that will help you no matter what you are feeling. if you dont have numbers get numbers its not gay these numbers are part of the tools in your tool bag that will help you get through this. If you need a number PM me and I will give you mine.
Trauma
900
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Damn right, that is one of the first things I've learned in my short time here: I just "stopped" before, but this is my QUIT. I was a chronic-stopper; I always talked about stopping, because it made me feel less guilty about what I was doing. No more, not me: I am a quitter.
Trauma, I read through your intro post: you inspire me. Congrats on 900; I'm quitting with you today, man.
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You have a lot have bad ass, knowledgeable people helping you out here. Heed their advice, suck it up these first few days when you can't see or think straight, and it will get better. Best tool for me was to post your promise early in the day, then be a man of your word. You need to do it for one day only!! ... then repeat.
You and your family are worth the suck you feel now.
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So here I am on day 8, and I certainly am taking the lessons of KTC to heart. Here are a few things I have realized in my first week on board:
1. Community:
I have leaned on my group. I have reached out to a few vets. I have hopped on the live chat. And I poured over the Words of Wisdom and Hall of Fame speeches. I can honestly say that if I didn't have one of these resources in place, I'd have caved by now. This shit works. Period.
2. ODAAT:
I had a freak out yesterday (Sunday, 4 October, Day 7). I worried about the future with thoughts like, "in 5-10 years from now, when shit gets hard, will I go back?" I reached out to a bunch of fellow quitters--after a few welcome kicks to the nuts I realized, "ONE DAY AT A FUCKING TIME." Fuck tomorrow. I quit today. That is all that matters. I can't get ahead of myself in this journey, and I can't dwell on the previous day's successes and failures.
3. I made it to the "mental" stage: the fog has lifted and the physical stuff has reached a manageable level, but my brain is still re-wiring. My brain still makes arguments for nicotine . . . all the more reason to stay plugged in.
4. Everything is a fucking trigger. I spent 15 years with a lip in, or thinking about my next lip. The simplest things in my daily life are triggers. I can't avoid them. I can't hide from them. I have to take them head on. Every trigger I defeat is an activity I reclaim for myself: driving in my truck, sitting on the coach, working in my shed, taking a shower, etc.
5. I am a weak as fuck. I am lucky to share KTC with some serious badass quitters that really have impacted my life in just a few days. Y'all inspire me, and I am proud to quit with you today.
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So here I am on day 8, and I certainly am taking the lessons of KTC to heart. Here are a few things I have realized in my first week on board:
1. Community:
I have leaned on my group. I have reached out to a few vets. I have hopped on the live chat. And I poured over the Words of Wisdom and Hall of Fame speeches. I can honestly say that if I didn't have one of these resources in place, I'd have caved by now. This shit works. Period.
2. ODAAT:
I had a freak out yesterday (Sunday, 4 October, Day 7). I worried about the future with thoughts like, "in 5-10 years from now, when shit gets hard, will I go back?" I reached out to a bunch of fellow quitters--after a few welcome kicks to the nuts I realized, "ONE DAY AT A FUCKING TIME." Fuck tomorrow. I quit today. That is all that matters. I can't get ahead of myself in this journey, and I can't dwell on the previous day's successes and failures.
3. I made it to the "mental" stage: the fog has lifted and the physical stuff has reached a manageable level, but my brain is still re-wiring. My brain still makes arguments for nicotine . . . all the more reason to stay plugged in.
4. Everything is a fucking trigger. I spent 15 years with a lip in, or thinking about my next lip. The simplest things in my daily life are triggers. I can't avoid them. I can't hide from them. I have to take them head on. Every trigger I defeat is an activity I reclaim for myself: driving in my truck, sitting on the coach, working in my shed, taking a shower, etc.
5. I am a weak as fuck. I am lucky to share KTC with some serious badass quitters that really have impacted my life in just a few days. Y'all inspire me, and I am proud to quit with you today.
Don't sell yourself short foulmouth, 8 days quit is hardcore. I've already seen plenty of folks disappear from this site a lot earlier than that. You're doing great and from what I can see you are one of those folks who "gets it".
ODAAT and I'm proud to quit with you today.
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So here I am on day 8, and I certainly am taking the lessons of KTC to heart. Here are a few things I have realized in my first week on board:
1. Community:
I have leaned on my group. I have reached out to a few vets. I have hopped on the live chat. And I poured over the Words of Wisdom and Hall of Fame speeches. I can honestly say that if I didn't have one of these resources in place, I'd have caved by now. This shit works. Period.
2. ODAAT:
I had a freak out yesterday (Sunday, 4 October, Day 7). I worried about the future with thoughts like, "in 5-10 years from now, when shit gets hard, will I go back?" I reached out to a bunch of fellow quitters--after a few welcome kicks to the nuts I realized, "ONE DAY AT A FUCKING TIME." Fuck tomorrow. I quit today. That is all that matters. I can't get ahead of myself in this journey, and I can't dwell on the previous day's successes and failures.
3. I made it to the "mental" stage: the fog has lifted and the physical stuff has reached a manageable level, but my brain is still re-wiring. My brain still makes arguments for nicotine . . . all the more reason to stay plugged in.
4. Everything is a fucking trigger. I spent 15 years with a lip in, or thinking about my next lip. The simplest things in my daily life are triggers. I can't avoid them. I can't hide from them. I have to take them head on. Every trigger I defeat is an activity I reclaim for myself: driving in my truck, sitting on the coach, working in my shed, taking a shower, etc.
5. I am a weak as fuck. I am lucky to share KTC with some serious badass quitters that really have impacted my life in just a few days. Y'all inspire me, and I am proud to quit with you today.
Great post bro!
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Fowl mouth I will repeat, you do get it. Now the most important thing you can do is to use what you have learned already, which I might add is quite a bit in only 8 days. But my friend that's what it takes. Find you a brother that needs help just like yourself, text each other daily, several times if necessary, it helps you both immensely and grows a great friendship! Keep going forward, don't look back and share the knowledge you have to help a beginner! You're doing great and I'm damn proud to call you my brother! 282
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So here I am on day 8, and I certainly am taking the lessons of KTC to heart. Here are a few things I have realized in my first week on board:
1. Community:
I have leaned on my group. I have reached out to a few vets. I have hopped on the live chat. And I poured over the Words of Wisdom and Hall of Fame speeches. I can honestly say that if I didn't have one of these resources in place, I'd have caved by now. This shit works. Period.
2. ODAAT:
I had a freak out yesterday (Sunday, 4 October, Day 7). I worried about the future with thoughts like, "in 5-10 years from now, when shit gets hard, will I go back?" I reached out to a bunch of fellow quitters--after a few welcome kicks to the nuts I realized, "ONE DAY AT A FUCKING TIME." Fuck tomorrow. I quit today. That is all that matters. I can't get ahead of myself in this journey, and I can't dwell on the previous day's successes and failures.
3. I made it to the "mental" stage: the fog has lifted and the physical stuff has reached a manageable level, but my brain is still re-wiring. My brain still makes arguments for nicotine . . . all the more reason to stay plugged in.
4. Everything is a fucking trigger. I spent 15 years with a lip in, or thinking about my next lip. The simplest things in my daily life are triggers. I can't avoid them. I can't hide from them. I have to take them head on. Every trigger I defeat is an activity I reclaim for myself: driving in my truck, sitting on the coach, working in my shed, taking a shower, etc.
5. I am a weak as fuck. I am lucky to share KTC with some serious badass quitters that really have impacted my life in just a few days. Y'all inspire me, and I am proud to quit with you today.
You're a bad ass man, setting a tone for many to follow. Nonetheless, fuck all that and focus on ODAAT.
Don't no one do it like the DOGs!!! Bow wow bastards!!!
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A hunter with three arrows in his quiver.
It is a great time for a good decision.
Spend your new time here learning.
Work on those arrows, make them staight,
supply them with feathers and sharpen their points.
One day you will shoot them into the world.... To fight for the truth.
You will be a great example of the truth for them to follow.
Drugs dont fix problems... They just double the problem.
People were not created to depend on nicotine.
Nicotine is a lie.
The Truth sets people free.
You are on a journey of truth.
Proud to quit with you and your decision.
Rawls 322
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A hunter with three arrows in his quiver.
It is a great time for a good decision.
Spend your new time here learning.
Work on those arrows, make them staight,
supply them with feathers and sharpen their points.
One day you will shoot them into the world.... To fight for the truth.
You will be a great example of the truth for them to follow.
Drugs dont fix problems... They just double the problem.
People were not created to depend on nicotine.
Nicotine is a lie.
The Truth sets people free.
You are on a journey of truth.
Proud to quit with you and your decision.
Rawls 322
TRUTH ^^^. Pay attention to this Fowl, this is incredible insight.
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My quit plan:
1. Wake up.
2. You are an addict.
3. Post roll: you gave your word that you will not use nicotine in any form today. You will keep your word for 24 hours.
4. Message your group: they are your first line of defense; give them 24 hours to respond.
5. Text/call the guys who helped you through the first weeks; you know who they are. Give them 24 hours to respond.
6. At this point, you are waiting for 24 hours for the sage advice and kick-in-the-balls from other quitters. Go get out in the woods.
7. Talk to your wife about it. Ask her to describe life from her eyes before and after 28 September 2015.
8. Tell your kids what you are about to do.
9. Drive to the store and spend your hard earned monies.
10. Get on KTC and post a Day 1. I know you feel guilty as shit, and I know you didn't enjoy it. Answer the questions. How the fuck did you get to #10?
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My quit plan:
1. Wake up.
2. You are an addict.
3. Post roll: you gave your word that you will not use nicotine in any form today. You will keep your word for 24 hours.
4. Message your group: they are your first line of defense; give them 24 hours to respond.
5. Text/call the guys who helped you through the first weeks; you know who they are. Give them 24 hours to respond.
6. At this point, you are waiting for 24 hours for the sage advice and kick-in-the-balls from other quitters. Go get out in the woods.
7. Talk to your wife about it. Ask her to describe life from her eyes before and after 28 September 2015.
8. Tell your kids what you are about to do.
9. Drive to the store and spend your hard earned monies.
10. Get on KTC and post a Day 1. I know you feel guilty as shit, and I know you didn't enjoy it. Answer the questions. How the fuck did you get to #10?
This is awesome man. Can I adapt this (no wife and kids) and post it in my intro thread, if you don't mind??
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This is awesome man. Can I adapt this (no wife and kids) and post it in my intro thread, if you don't mind??
Go for it! Just as long as I can adapt your adaptations!
I adapted it from something I read my first few days here on KTC, but I can't remember where I read it...
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on your 100 days! Well done man!!
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on your 100 days! Well done man!!
Congrats on 100 buddy. You got a great quit going ... keep kicking ass one day at a time!
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Atta boy! Get some! I better be seeing you in 96 days when we go HOF together! 'Remshot'
Annnnd we are both still here 'oh yeah'
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I pray to be where you are. That is awesome. Can't wait to be at 100. I quit with you today.
Cantoo -5-
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on your 100 days! Well done man!!
Congrats on 100 buddy. You got a great quit going ... keep kicking ass one day at a time!
Congrats Brother.... What a great Intro.
Respect your quit and your One Hundo!
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on your 100 days! Well done man!!
Congrats on 100 buddy. You got a great quit going ... keep kicking ass one day at a time!
Congrats Brother.... What a great Intro.
Respect your quit and your One Hundo!
Congratulations my duck hunting brother! Cut"em"! View from first floor alot better than where we started! Quit on!
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Congrats on your HOF day!!
Celebrate and enjoy on to more +1s.
I quit with you today.
Congrats on your 100 days! Well done man!!
Congrats on 100 buddy. You got a great quit going ... keep kicking ass one day at a time!
Congrats Brother.... What a great Intro.
Respect your quit and your One Hundo!
Congratulations my duck hunting brother! Cut"em"! View from first floor alot better than where we started! Quit on!
Congrats on reaching HOF my friend! B)B
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and now....
celebrating his 1 trip around the sun.
the Playa Playa of the fowl twins.
Congrats brother!
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and now....
celebrating his 1 trip around the sun.
the Playa Playa of the fowl twins.
Congrats brother!
How sweet it is my tide friend! Congratulations and thanks for quitting with me every day!
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Happy half dangle day!!