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Title: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on October 25, 2016, 12:03:00 AM
I've been on the can for 17.5 years, and I'm tired of it. I'm sick of being a slave to this disgusting habit. I've wanted to quit for years, but I've been weak minded. Two days ago, I switched from Cope long cut, to Cope pouches. That was my first step. Today I talked to doc about it, and he set me up with Chantix. I know many of you will steer me away from that too, but I am terrified of quitting. It's dictated who I am for so long, it scares me to think about who might be on the other side of that can. I WILL quit. I WILL survive this. I just fee like I (and my marriage) needs a short term chemical aid.
As I type this, my heart is pounding, and my eyes are watering. I'm so scared.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: LMM on October 25, 2016, 01:54:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
I've been on the can for 17.5 years, and I'm tired of it. I'm sick of being a slave to this disgusting habit. I've wanted to quit for years, but I've been weak minded. Two days ago, I switched from Cope long cut, to Cope pouches. That was my first step. Today I talked to doc about it, and he set me up with Chantix. I know many of you will steer me away from that too, but I am terrified of quitting. It's dictated who I am for so long, it scares me to think about who might be on the other side of that can. I WILL quit. I WILL survive this. I just fee like I (and my marriage) needs a short term chemical aid.
As I type this, my heart is pounding, and my eyes are watering. I'm so scared.
RELAX! Everyone here knows what is going through your head and we've all been there before. If you really want to quit, you've come to the right place. Drop the cope pouches, drop the patch/gum, drop the chantix. All of that is just band-aids to a war wound.

Here is what you need to do (among other things): find your quit group in the forum (it will be either January or February, I think the latter). Post your promise that you won't use nicotine today. It seems weird to post a promise to a bunch of internet strangers, but it works. Anybody can quit for one day. Take it an hour at a time, a minute at a time, whatever is needed; just don't use nicotine that day. Then, tomorrow when you wake up, post your promise again. Don't think of the future beyond that one day. The way to quit is one day at a time, or ODAAT. Embrace it and you will soon find yourself on the other side where the pastures are green.

Also, I recommend reading long intro threads and HOF (hall of fame) speeches. This will feed your stoke to quit, offer you lots of advice and motivation, encourage you that you are not alone in this, and give you something to look forward to.

The formula is not easy, but it is simple. Follow it and you will see freedom at long last!

PS - I'm only 39 days ahead of you in this quit, but I feel confident to say all of the above. I quit with you today!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: brettlees on October 25, 2016, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: LMM
Quote from: texasxb
I've been on the can for 17.5 years, and I'm tired of it. I'm sick of being a slave to this disgusting habit. I've wanted to quit for years, but I've been weak minded. Two days ago, I switched from Cope long cut, to Cope pouches. That was my first step. Today I talked to doc about it, and he set me up with Chantix. I know many of you will steer me away from that too, but I am terrified of quitting. It's dictated who I am for so long, it scares me to think about who might be on the other side of that can. I WILL quit. I WILL survive this. I just fee like I (and my marriage) needs a short term chemical aid.
As I type this, my heart is pounding, and my eyes are watering. I'm so scared.
RELAX! Everyone here knows what is going through your head and we've all been there before. If you really want to quit, you've come to the right place. Drop the cope pouches, drop the patch/gum, drop the chantix. All of that is just band-aids to a war wound.

Here is what you need to do (among other things): find your quit group in the forum (it will be either January or February, I think the latter). Post your promise that you won't use nicotine today. It seems weird to post a promise to a bunch of internet strangers, but it works. Anybody can quit for one day. Take it an hour at a time, a minute at a time, whatever is needed; just don't use nicotine that day. Then, tomorrow when you wake up, post your promise again. Don't think of the future beyond that one day. The way to quit is one day at a time, or ODAAT. Embrace it and you will soon find yourself on the other side where the pastures are green.

Also, I recommend reading long intro threads and HOF (hall of fame) speeches. This will feed your stoke to quit, offer you lots of advice and motivation, encourage you that you are not alone in this, and give you something to look forward to.

The formula is not easy, but it is simple. Follow it and you will see freedom at long last!

PS - I'm only 39 days ahead of you in this quit, but I feel confident to say all of the above. I quit with you today!
^^^^ LMM is only a few days ahead of you but his advice is spot on!

Keep sharing your experience here, and it lets guys like that reach out to help. That's one way to build your network, and to help other quitters see what you have made it through, in the future. Get to know other quitters here, and learn all you can about what you are fighting in this evil addiction. If you start to get mad about the tobacco companies, you are starting to get it! And use your discomfort, and any anger, to fuel your resolve. You can break free now, just keep yourself in the game and it gets easier over time!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: RDB on October 25, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: texasxb
I've been on the can for 17.5 years, and I'm tired of it. I'm sick of being a slave to this disgusting habit. I've wanted to quit for years, but I've been weak minded. Two days ago, I switched from Cope long cut, to Cope pouches. That was my first step. Today I talked to doc about it, and he set me up with Chantix. I know many of you will steer me away from that too, but I am terrified of quitting. It's dictated who I am for so long, it scares me to think about who might be on the other side of that can. I WILL quit. I WILL survive this. I just fee like I (and my marriage) needs a short term chemical aid.
As I type this, my heart is pounding, and my eyes are watering. I'm so scared.
Yep, we've been where you are. There's no way getting around it, quitting sucks until it doesn't.

Take it from someone who thought he needed to "taper" down using nicotine gum for the first three weeks - you don't need the aids. You need to buckle up and embrace the suck of the quit. The only place the nicotine gum got me was three weeks behind where I should have been. Every time I fed my addiction, even a little bit, I took a step backwards. Every time I extended the time between pieces of gum by one hour, I took a step backwards.

Cold Turkey is your best bet at a lasting quit.

If you quit today, your Quit Group will be the February group found here.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30053935/2/#new) Guess what! If you go over there and post roll, right away, you will be the first member of that group! The pioneer! But, you won't be alone. The full force of the KTC forums will be behind you.

Learn about posting roll here.  (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/#new)That's the backbone of the site, and the price of admission to this otherwise free site.

Honestly, the anxiety, the fear of the unknown, feeling like you're losing a "friend" - we've all experienced it. When you get involved here, and stay quit, you will soon learn that tobacco and nicotine are the enemies. They have been trying to kill you for the past 17.5 years. Freedom can be found on the other side of the suck. But you've got to be willing to take your licks before you get there. It's worth it.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 26, 2016, 06:31:00 AM
Hello sir.

My name is Michael, aka worktowin, and I'm an addict.

^^^this is step one. Dip does not define you. Dip isn't who who are. It isn't your pleasure source in life. It doesn't make things easier. It doesnt help one single thing in life. Not one. Nicotine takes... money, health, integrity, freedom, and the withdrawal of not using it.

When you throw a new one in, the withdrawal goes away. Briefly. You are scared? Anxious? Not ofmissing the good... but facing the bad. Bud I wasted 25 years and $40,000 chasing the withdrawals away. You are in good company here.

You can do this. It is going to suck at first. But until you quit you'll never know how good it feels to break free. Freedom is a glorious thing, and not being chained to a little round can wig a chopped up plant is sure a good feeling. That little can had me by the nuts too man, but I promise that you can do this. Don't plan your quit. Don't cut back or wean yourself off... quit with us. We win together here. Take your life back. Win.

Today's the day. Why give that little can any more power over you?
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: AppleJack on October 26, 2016, 08:41:00 AM
Hey, man... you're coming back to look at this.

You're reading some hard but excellent truths.

You're getting genius and compassionate advice.

You're being called out...

What's it gonna be, bro? Taking your life back today?
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: JGlav on October 26, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Hello sir.

My name is Michael, aka worktowin, and I'm an addict.

^^^this is step one. Dip does not define you. Dip isn't who who are. It isn't your pleasure source in life. It doesn't make things easier. It doesnt help one single thing in life. Not one. Nicotine takes... money, health, integrity, freedom, and the withdrawal of not using it.

When you throw a new one in, the withdrawal goes away. Briefly. You are scared? Anxious? Not ofmissing the good... but facing the bad. Bud I wasted 25 years and $40,000 chasing the withdrawals away. You are in good company here.

You can do this. It is going to suck at first. But until you quit you'll never know how good it feels to break free. Freedom is a glorious thing, and not being chained to a little round can wig a chopped up plant is sure a good feeling. That little can had me by the nuts too man, but I promise that you can do this. Don't plan your quit. Don't cut back or wean yourself off... quit with us. We win together here. Take your life back. Win.

Today's the day. Why give that little can any more power over you?
You got this. And everyone posting here has been in your shoes. It truly is one second, one minute, one hour and one day at a time. All the withdraw anxiety will go away.
Its a plant, a nasty disgusting plant, learn to hate it. Post roll in the morning, get some numbers. We are with you and quitting is bad ass. Life is so much better without putting a weed in your lip.
Proud to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 26, 2016, 09:43:00 AM
I was scared too. I used a patch to ween down because cold turkey wouldn't work for me, right? Wrong! In fact, I got to go through withdrawals twice. It sucks bad a a few days, then it's mind over matter. Do it now!

As far a Chantrix goes, I've always heard as long as it's not nicotine, use it.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: eyehatecope on October 26, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
One of my biggest fears/thoughts were, I am so nervous without dip. That's why I dip. It calms me down.

Guess what? Since I've quit that is a BS. Actually, I'm less nervous without it. All dip provided me was a way to tell me that I needed the nicotine. A way to say, go buy more because you will run out. Then what will you do? I know, drive X amount of miles no matter the time of day to buy more.

You either quit cold turkey and with the help of this site and the sisters and brothers or you don't and that's my opinion.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: brettlees on October 26, 2016, 11:54:00 AM
Dude you've had some hellaciously strong quitters weigh in for you here, and some amazing advice. Yet, you haven't posted roll yet. You supposedly started two days before today. You were on the site early this morning. Time to jump in with both feet! Don't be one of those guys that tries every three to five years to quit, the average amount of time it takes to re-garner the nuts to try again. Just do it now, all the way. Can't you smell the freedom?

This batch of guys that have offered you a hand and guidance is amazing- please please be a guy who deserves it!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: jpetmpls on October 26, 2016, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Dip does not define you. Dip isn't who who are. It isn't your pleasure source in life. It doesn't make things easier. It doesnt help one single thing in life. Not one. Nicotine takes... money, health, integrity, freedom, and the withdrawal of not using it.
This is the gospel. Once you reach this realization, the path is clear and you will walk it with certainty. Just gotta take that first step.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on October 27, 2016, 04:21:00 AM
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 27, 2016, 04:44:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: RDB on October 27, 2016, 06:15:00 AM
What he said ^. We've all been exactly where you are. Fear of raging against the family? Yep. After you've set yourself free of the chains of this addiction you wil see exactly what it has stolen from your family.

The path that you are on inevitably leads back to full-on daily constant use. We know. We've done it before. All of us. That little voice telling you that you needed those two pouches - that's your addiction. It wants to be fed. You must starve it.

Throw the can. Post roll. Promise to remain nicotine free. Keep your promise. That is how you quit.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on October 27, 2016, 08:17:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: texasxb
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.
Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 27, 2016, 08:35:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: texasxb
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.
Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.
If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: AppleJack on October 27, 2016, 08:48:00 AM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: texasxb
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: texasxb
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.
Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.
If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.
Not from this guy Thumble...

This thread is complete bullshit.

And weak.

Dude... it doesn't matter if you do it only a "little bit" or a lot... you're still an actively using addict. Quitting isn't slowing down. Quitting is fucking Quitting! Does that compute? Every method is cold turkey at some point because YOU HAVE TO STOP USING EVENTUALLY! You're prolonging your pain.

That's just stupid.

And...

While being an active user "slowing down" so that it's all better for everyone involved... how do you know that the next pouch you stick in your maw isn't the "ONE" that turns healthy tissue into a cancerous nightmare???? You're playing roulette and... you're gonna lose.

I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a damn big chunk of it. Today?... 1,290 clean. If I can... you can.

Until you actually man up and do this... no more facebook status updates. We don't wanna hear about your progress on your way to quitting.

We just wanna hear "I. Quit."
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: pab1964 on October 27, 2016, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: texasxb
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: texasxb
I haven't posted roll yet, because I went to the pouches twice during my 16 hr shift last night. I'm not proud of it, but was still a huge accomplishment. Today (rather tonight, due to working nights for a while), has been a bit easier. I feel that I finally have the strength to beat this, though I choose to take it slow. The last time I tried to quit, I simply tossed the can, and it almost cost me my marriage. The withdrawals and mood swings caused me to easily anger, and say things I didn't mean. She was gonna leave, if I didn't fix it. So I fixed it with a can.
This time is different. The will to quit is rock solid, but I won't rush it again and risk losing my wife.
I initially thought it would take me a couple of weeks, but I'm already seeing that it's happening much sooner.
Please have faith in me. I will not falter in my tobacco-free quest.
Dude... you can't fool an addict. This is gonna sound harsh, but you need to hear this. Heroin addicts don't succeed by just sticking the needle in twice in a day. Heroin and nicotine are the most addictive substances on earth.

Toss the can. Toss the pouches. NOW.

You wanna rage on someone? I'll happily give you my phone number. Happily. You can yell at me all day or night long. I'll take your rage dude. But we do have a few rules of engagement here... we are nicotine free, itvis how we roll, and we do not take rage out on our families. They didn't shove tobacco in our mouths and they don't take the blame for it.

I haven't lost faith in you or I wouldn't waste my time in the middle of the night typing to you, but if you don't throw your cans away RIGHT NOW I'm telling you that you are going down a path that we've all, including you, gone down many times before. It's like this dude...imagine having a really really hairy arm and having a really sticky band aid on it. Do you slowly take it off? Or do you pull it off quickly?

We know how to quit here. We all pussyfooted around, weaning ourselves or setting quit dates... and then we found this place. Do it man.

Want my number? Throw your cans out. Say yes. Let's do this. 1,404 days ago I was a slave too, curled up in a little ball crying like a weak piece of crap over a chopped up plant in a little round can... today I'm free. Let's do this.
Not trying to fool anyone. I'm being more open about this shit than I ever thought I could be. Yet I feel that I'm forced to defend myself for being honest. I respect the rules here, and have no intention of trying to post anywhere else til it's all gone.
I don't want to rage on anyone. I choose to take slow.
I appreciate and enjoy all the words of encouragement, and believe it or not, it's helping tremendously.
I'll be back to post roll shortly.
If I could figure out how to link my intro, you could read that I was just like you - which was terrified. This is a leap of faith moment, trust that you are here on this site to quit tobacco - not reinvent how to quit, there is only ONE WAY.

You will never get any support if you continue to use. Back when I refused to quit and wore a patch and slunk around this site for 30 days I was called a pussy and a coward, seems like 2016 is a much friendlier time.
Not from this guy Thumble...

This thread is complete bullshit.

And weak.

Dude... it doesn't matter if you do it only a "little bit" or a lot... you're still an actively using addict. Quitting isn't slowing down. Quitting is fucking Quitting! Does that compute? Every method is cold turkey at some point because YOU HAVE TO STOP USING EVENTUALLY! You're prolonging your pain.

That's just stupid.

And...

While being an active user "slowing down" so that it's all better for everyone involved... how do you know that the next pouch you stick in your maw isn't the "ONE" that turns healthy tissue into a cancerous nightmare???? You're playing roulette and... you're gonna lose.

I chewed for 25 years and 2 cans a day for a damn big chunk of it. Today?... 1,290 clean. If I can... you can.

Until you actually man up and do this... no more facebook status updates. We don't wanna hear about your progress on your way to quitting.

We just wanna hear "I. Quit."
Damn skippy! ^^^ Be a man! How in the helll can a grown ass man be scared of a tin? Come on dude, do it now or you'll still be weaning yourself 2 years down the road. Im talking from experience. I hope we piss you off! Take the rage and quit with it. I dipped 38 years and im 670 day's quit and that's only possible because of Ktc ODAAT! No doctor has a quit prescription that comes close to some of these Ktc professors! Now grab your damn sack, be a man and get this done!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Rawls on October 27, 2016, 10:00:00 AM
Hey Texas....
Its time.
And All about Time.....
You will never quit if your thinking about the future.
Seems your talking about before and or after.... in every word you type.
Cant look in the Future OR THE Past.
Quiting is about right now!
And "right now".... Doesnt care what time a day it is, or how much I've worked, or slept.
You have to learn to handle "right now".. Without a drug.
It's not easy.... These minutes and seconds we must go through.
But you have the best quitters here in the world to help you.... If you post roll.
Lets start using all these relationships.
And quit trying to self medicate with pioson.
People help people quit...patches help people die!
I too am from Texas
Need to chat...Check you personal Massage inbox I left you my digits.
Rawls 710
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 27, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
You
Can
Do
This

The guys responding to this thread might seem harsh... but it is just because we tried what you are trying so many times. Dude I've seen people talk abut weighing out and mixing and blending dip to wean down on nicotine levels. Does that sound like a junkie? Like someone in a dark alley shooting up? My friend... my fellow addict... the plan here works.

Withdrawal is withdrawal. It will be the same level of bad whether you wean yourself down (which spreads out the bad longer) or if you suck it up and quit. 25,000+ success stories are not a coincidence.

My offer stands. My number is yours for the asking. I promise you my full attention and effort. We will be a team, but my friend... as you can tell from my name... I like to win. If you are committed to winning, throw your nicotine out,post roll, and let me know. Together... we will win.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on October 27, 2016, 11:28:00 PM
Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Rampant on October 27, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
Quote from: texasxb
Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.
The methods and principles of this site are not for everyone, however if you look at all these guys offering their guidance to you they are all over 500+ days quit of nicotine.

Do you think none of them had jobs? None of them had wives? None of them had issues while quitting? Is it your understanding that since you had an easy day today that you are all set and its fuckin' sunshine and unicorns from here on out? You honestly believe that just because you went to pouches for a few days and your body isn't going to have a negative reaction at some point to you robbing it of your self medication of nicotine?

I am proud as hell for you for quitting honestly that is a damn great thing, but you are not "forever free" just because you had a "piece of cake" day. You need to adopt an attitude of one day at a time and envelope yourself into a web of quit that cannot be broken like in the past.

I wish you luck man, I do not need luck, you know why?? I post roll EDD on KTC Rampant 58 QLF Today!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 28, 2016, 02:58:00 AM
Quote from: Rampant
Quote from: texasxb
Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.
The methods and principles of this site are not for everyone, however if you look at all these guys offering their guidance to you they are all over 500+ days quit of nicotine.

Do you think none of them had jobs? None of them had wives? None of them had issues while quitting? Is it your understanding that since you had an easy day today that you are all set and its fuckin' sunshine and unicorns from here on out? You honestly believe that just because you went to pouches for a few days and your body isn't going to have a negative reaction at some point to you robbing it of your self medication of nicotine?

I am proud as hell for you for quitting honestly that is a damn great thing, but you are not "forever free" just because you had a "piece of cake" day. You need to adopt an attitude of one day at a time and envelope yourself into a web of quit that cannot be broken like in the past.

I wish you luck man, I do not need luck, you know why?? I post roll EDD on KTC Rampant 58 QLF Today!
Congratulations and good luck, Texas. Hope to see you on roll.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: ChristopherJ on October 28, 2016, 07:07:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Rampant
Quote from: texasxb
Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.
The methods and principles of this site are not for everyone, however if you look at all these guys offering their guidance to you they are all over 500+ days quit of nicotine.

Do you think none of them had jobs? None of them had wives? None of them had issues while quitting? Is it your understanding that since you had an easy day today that you are all set and its fuckin' sunshine and unicorns from here on out? You honestly believe that just because you went to pouches for a few days and your body isn't going to have a negative reaction at some point to you robbing it of your self medication of nicotine?

I am proud as hell for you for quitting honestly that is a damn great thing, but you are not "forever free" just because you had a "piece of cake" day. You need to adopt an attitude of one day at a time and envelope yourself into a web of quit that cannot be broken like in the past.

I wish you luck man, I do not need luck, you know why?? I post roll EDD on KTC Rampant 58 QLF Today!
Congratulations and good luck, Texas. Hope to see you on roll.
Smart decision to finally swear off all nicotine tex. I am trying to understand what you meant by "I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not". If you really want to stay quit, I strongly (but gently) encourage you to get on roll. That may have been a nice piece of cake today, but there are tough days ahead, and KTC is here for those who are willing to respect its premises and methods. It really works. Quit with us tex.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 28, 2016, 08:30:00 AM
Glad you found the cure. Me, I'm still an addict and will post roll until I am cured - which will be never.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: AppleJack on October 28, 2016, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
Not everyone needs to be beat down. Especially not me. All I needed was time to make sure I could stay level headed. I didn't write this intro for you. It was for me to speak about the emotions rolling around in my head. It was for me to start the process of making sense of it all.
This was never a matter of looking for help/coddling, or to be told the only winning solution. You did more harm than good. Luckily, I had an understanding individual PM me, and simply encourage me. Apparently that's the extra edge I needed.

My method worked. Tossed the can this morning, after realizing that I wanted no more. Now I'm back at work, and have hardly even thought about it. 0900 I'm officially quit, piece of cake.
I may post roll and stick around, yet I might not. Either way, I'm forever free.
Look...

We know you.
We are you.

We've seen you a thousand times.

You're not going to admit you're an addict. You get all butthurt when we call you out. "Your" method is the bestest ever. Yada, yada, yada.

We've seen you a thousand times and... your way doesn't work.

Nobody is beating you down bro. We're trying to bust through the addict and talk to YOU.
Sometimes we need to hammer at the wall for awhile. But... if you're not ready to pay attention to our success rate instead of yours... your loss. Maybe a bigger loss than you think...

Good luck...
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on October 28, 2016, 09:16:00 AM
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: AppleJack on October 28, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
There's a mindset to quitting that's detrimental... thinking you got it handled. Thinking that because one day was easy, you don't forsee having issues. I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm trying to help you buckle in with the right focus. Your addiction handled you for years... one good day and you think you have it under control? Stop and listen to what we're saying. It's not an attack... it's education and experience.

Join your quit group... get into the groove of KTC. You'll soon understand where we're coming from. You need to be here... we want you to be here.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: pab1964 on October 28, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
There's a mindset to quitting that's detrimental... thinking you got it handled. Thinking that because one day was easy, you don't forsee having issues. I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm trying to help you buckle in with the right focus. Your addiction handled you for years... one good day and you think you have it under control? Stop and listen to what we're saying. It's not an attack... it's education and experience.

Join your quit group... get into the groove of KTC. You'll soon understand where we're coming from. You need to be here... we want you to be here.
No ones trying to run you off. I'm gonna guess you will eventually run yourself off because of all of these harsh words. Do me a favor if you leave and cave, come back long enough to say: sorry you guy's were right. Because what we do here may not make sense to you but I will say there's engineers, doctors, rocket scientist here, might want to stick around a little while and find out why this works, either way good luck, sounds like you're definitely going to need it. Attitude is almost everything in quitting!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 28, 2016, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
There's a mindset to quitting that's detrimental... thinking you got it handled. Thinking that because one day was easy, you don't forsee having issues. I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm trying to help you buckle in with the right focus. Your addiction handled you for years... one good day and you think you have it under control? Stop and listen to what we're saying. It's not an attack... it's education and experience.

Join your quit group... get into the groove of KTC. You'll soon understand where we're coming from. You need to be here... we want you to be here.
No ones trying to run you off. I'm gonna guess you will eventually run yourself off because of all of these harsh words. Do me a favor if you leave and cave, come back long enough to say: sorry you guy's were right. Because what we do here may not make sense to you but I will say there's engineers, doctors, rocket scientist here, might want to stick around a little while and find out why this works, either way good luck, sounds like you're definitely going to need it. Attitude is almost everything in quitting!
No luck from me. I didn't become a quitter because I am lucky, I became a quitter because I post roll daily and promise other addicts that I am nicotine free for a day. And it won't be luck tomorrow if I make the wise decision to sign roll, it will be the fact I haven't put dog shit in my mouth for over 2 years because of this method.

Just remember, you came here seeking advice, and when it isn't what you want to hear, you take your ball and go home. Not my problem - I have seen someone like you easily 50 times in the last 2 years.

You sign roll, you get support of thousands of quitters. You don't sign roll, you're on your own, no worries for me, I'll still be quit as fuck.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: rdad on October 28, 2016, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
There's a mindset to quitting that's detrimental... thinking you got it handled. Thinking that because one day was easy, you don't forsee having issues. I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm trying to help you buckle in with the right focus. Your addiction handled you for years... one good day and you think you have it under control? Stop and listen to what we're saying. It's not an attack... it's education and experience.

Join your quit group... get into the groove of KTC. You'll soon understand where we're coming from. You need to be here... we want you to be here.
No ones trying to run you off. I'm gonna guess you will eventually run yourself off because of all of these harsh words. Do me a favor if you leave and cave, come back long enough to say: sorry you guy's were right. Because what we do here may not make sense to you but I will say there's engineers, doctors, rocket scientist here, might want to stick around a little while and find out why this works, either way good luck, sounds like you're definitely going to need it. Attitude is almost everything in quitting!
No luck from me. I didn't become a quitter because I am lucky, I became a quitter because I post roll daily and promise other addicts that I am nicotine free for a day. And it won't be luck tomorrow if I make the wise decision to sign roll, it will be the fact I haven't put dog shit in my mouth for over 2 years because of this method.

Just remember, you came here seeking advice, and when it isn't what you want to hear, you take your ball and go home. Not my problem - I have seen someone like you easily 50 times in the last 2 years.

You sign roll, you get support of thousands of quitters. You don't sign roll, you're on your own, no worries for me, I'll still be quit as fuck.
What are you afraid of Texas? I know you feel like you are losing a freind but youre not. That bitch doesnt do anything except enslave you and fuck up your mind. I wish you could just be in any of these longtime quitters shoes for just one minute and you would see how awesome being free from that shit is. Cmon man. You can do this!!!!!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 29, 2016, 08:35:00 PM
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
What is wrong with you all? I didn't come in here attacking you. Never claimed to not be an addict. Nor did I claim that this would be an easy road. All I've said is that it suddenly became easy. I realize that it's only been a day, but if I can make that, then I don't foresee having issues.
I get that most people need to just drop it, but that wasn't the way for me. However, the results are the same. Here I am...Nicotine free.
Please, drop the hostilities. I'd love to post roll and be a part of this, but not if I have to be an ass about it.
There's a mindset to quitting that's detrimental... thinking you got it handled. Thinking that because one day was easy, you don't forsee having issues. I'm not trying to be an ass... I'm trying to help you buckle in with the right focus. Your addiction handled you for years... one good day and you think you have it under control? Stop and listen to what we're saying. It's not an attack... it's education and experience.

Join your quit group... get into the groove of KTC. You'll soon understand where we're coming from. You need to be here... we want you to be here.
No ones trying to run you off. I'm gonna guess you will eventually run yourself off because of all of these harsh words. Do me a favor if you leave and cave, come back long enough to say: sorry you guy's were right. Because what we do here may not make sense to you but I will say there's engineers, doctors, rocket scientist here, might want to stick around a little while and find out why this works, either way good luck, sounds like you're definitely going to need it. Attitude is almost everything in quitting!
No luck from me. I didn't become a quitter because I am lucky, I became a quitter because I post roll daily and promise other addicts that I am nicotine free for a day. And it won't be luck tomorrow if I make the wise decision to sign roll, it will be the fact I haven't put dog shit in my mouth for over 2 years because of this method.

Just remember, you came here seeking advice, and when it isn't what you want to hear, you take your ball and go home. Not my problem - I have seen someone like you easily 50 times in the last 2 years.

You sign roll, you get support of thousands of quitters. You don't sign roll, you're on your own, no worries for me, I'll still be quit as fuck.
What are you afraid of Texas? I know you feel like you are losing a freind but youre not. That bitch doesnt do anything except enslave you and fuck up your mind. I wish you could just be in any of these longtime quitters shoes for just one minute and you would see how awesome being free from that shit is. Cmon man. You can do this!!!!!
Maybe tomorrow will be the day you will post roll!!!!!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: eyehatecope on October 30, 2016, 08:37:00 AM
You have arrived at the wrong place if you are looking for sympathy. Accountability is what you receive here. Throw the crap away. Whatever you have. Post roll. Once you start posting roll you will see a significant change for the good. I will not be your friend on here. I will however be a brother. It will be up to you to decide which you had rather have.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 30, 2016, 09:39:00 AM
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: eyehatecope on October 30, 2016, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: Thumblewort
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
I agree thumble! Quit on!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: pab1964 on October 30, 2016, 02:30:00 PM
Quote from: eyehatecope
Quote from: Thumblewort
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
I agree thumble! Quit on!
Damn......Just........Damn!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Thumblewort on October 31, 2016, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: eyehatecope
Quote from: Thumblewort
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
I agree thumble! Quit on!
Damn......Just........Damn!
I know Pab, but at the end of the day you and the rest of us can only help so much. Seen it a hundred times, and will continue to see it. One can only quit when truly ready. I don't get wound up over this anymore, just move to the next potential quitter.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on October 31, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: eyehatecope
Quote from: Thumblewort
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
I agree thumble! Quit on!
Damn......Just........Damn!
I know Pab, but at the end of the day you and the rest of us can only help so much. Seen it a hundred times, and will continue to see it. One can only quit when truly ready. I don't get wound up over this anymore, just move to the next potential quitter.
This whole thread is a textbook example of how to lose:

1. Don't quit... but slooooowly cut back.
2. Vigorously fight any advice or help offered, get offended and butthurt.
3. Don't post roll.
4. Proclaim on day one that this fight has been a snap so far.

Here's how to win:

1. Brotherhood (reaching out for help, accepting help, offering help, building relationships) +
2. Accountability (post roll each day as soon as your eyeballs open) =
3. Success

The plan here works. No other plan that I know of works. We all have a choice... Texas has lined out a very clear path to solitary failure. KTC has laid out a plan of winning together. Don't be like Tex.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: pab1964 on October 31, 2016, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Thumblewort
Quote from: pab1964
Quote from: eyehatecope
Quote from: Thumblewort
He or She hasn't been on since Friday, it's a lost cause folks. I quit today and it feels damn good!
I agree thumble! Quit on!
Damn......Just........Damn!
I know Pab, but at the end of the day you and the rest of us can only help so much. Seen it a hundred times, and will continue to see it. One can only quit when truly ready. I don't get wound up over this anymore, just move to the next potential quitter.
This whole thread is a textbook example of how to lose:

1. Don't quit... but slooooowly cut back.
2. Vigorously fight any advice or help offered, get offended and butthurt.
3. Don't post roll.
4. Proclaim on day one that this fight has been a snap so far.

Here's how to win:

1. Brotherhood (reaching out for help, accepting help, offering help, building relationships) +
2. Accountability (post roll each day as soon as your eyeballs open) =
3. Success

The plan here works. No other plan that I know of works. We all have a choice... Texas has lined out a very clear path to solitary failure. KTC has laid out a plan of winning together. Don't be like Tex.
Please pin this intro and show to guy's and gals that come in here trying to wean themselves off what really happens 99% of the time!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on November 08, 2016, 05:03:00 PM
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: KingNothing on November 08, 2016, 06:11:00 PM
Texas, what you can't see right now is that the guys here and simply fighting through the addict b.s. and getting right to the heart of the matter. You don't see it yet because you're still in the white-knuckle drag out fog part of your quit. Not one of the guys that has posted on here has derided you for no reason. In fact, here's the stats. The guys you feel are crushing you have a total of 5,891 days quit between them and an AVERAGE of 982 days quit. Do you really think that all of them are just in here to give you a keyboard cow boy ride? 'finger point'

Each one of us has been where you are right now. We've each stared down the decision to quit and peed ourselves a little. The difference is the guys that didn't back down, didn't flinch are still here. They didn't get there by only using when they REALLY had to. They quit. They quit and never looked back. You will never regret this process once you pass through the turbulent waters of the first few weeks/months of your quit. You will be a better man and you'll be damn proud that every single day, you win the battle.

If you don't like the way guys are saying things, so be it, but don't lose the message for the delivery. You aren't the first addict to walk through here and you won't be the last. By my estimation, nobody ever succeeded here until they admitted they were an addict. As with any other kind of addict, we can NOT use in moderation. None. You can do this Texas, don't let your nic addict brain get in the way.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Viking on November 08, 2016, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: texasxb
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
For what it's worth, it's possible to quit without KTC or posting roll, but do you really want that? I've been quit for only 9 days, but I will politely question:

Why you would want to be here if you aren't going to assimilate and post roll? What's the value of this site to you if you aren't posting roll? Do you have a good reason for not posting roll? What makes not posting roll a better way of quitting than posting roll?

I want to quit chewing at all costs. I'm all ears to other ways of quitting if you can explain to me why they are better and get me to agree. For now, I'm going to offer this unsolicited opinion, so bear with me.

My opinion of KTC is that a lot of people have quit using the method it prescribes, that people like me are depending on others to post roll every day so that I know they will be there by my side fighting this awful addiction, making the same pledge, being dependable and people we can count on when times are the worst. This is for our lives here, both yours and mine and everyone else's here. We are fighting for our lives with people that have screen names. I didn't go to elementary school with them. I need them to prove to me they are dependable so I can use them as support.

I would really like to depend on you as a quit brother, but since I don't know you, how am I to know you'll be someone I can count on when the going gets tough for me unless I see you are proving to me that you are dependable by posting roll early and every day? Maybe you don't really give a crap about whether I can count on you, I don't know. I hope you care.

I quit with you today and here's to hoping that you'll drink the kool-aid because I'd love to have you as a quit brother. I will say, if you're not going to post roll everyday, I will pull for you and be on your side, but I need dependable people in my corner right now and I think a lot of other people need that same commitment every day from their support system to stay quit.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: JGlav on November 09, 2016, 08:04:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Quote from: texasxb
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
For what it's worth, it's possible to quit without KTC or posting roll, but do you really want that? I've been quit for only 9 days, but I will politely question:

Why you would want to be here if you aren't going to assimilate and post roll? What's the value of this site to you if you aren't posting roll? Do you have a good reason for not posting roll? What makes not posting roll a better way of quitting than posting roll?

I want to quit chewing at all costs. I'm all ears to other ways of quitting if you can explain to me why they are better and get me to agree. For now, I'm going to offer this unsolicited opinion, so bear with me.

My opinion of KTC is that a lot of people have quit using the method it prescribes, that people like me are depending on others to post roll every day so that I know they will be there by my side fighting this awful addiction, making the same pledge, being dependable and people we can count on when times are the worst. This is for our lives here, both yours and mine and everyone else's here. We are fighting for our lives with people that have screen names. I didn't go to elementary school with them. I need them to prove to me they are dependable so I can use them as support.

I would really like to depend on you as a quit brother, but since I don't know you, how am I to know you'll be someone I can count on when the going gets tough for me unless I see you are proving to me that you are dependable by posting roll early and every day? Maybe you don't really give a crap about whether I can count on you, I don't know. I hope you care.

I quit with you today and here's to hoping that you'll drink the kool-aid because I'd love to have you as a quit brother. I will say, if you're not going to post roll everyday, I will pull for you and be on your side, but I need dependable people in my corner right now and I think a lot of other people need that same commitment every day from their support system to stay quit.
Dude. Posting roll is the promise that makes this work. Do not listen to the voice of the nic bitch as she struggles to maintain control of your brain.
We support one another hear. The fee for that support is a simple roll post. Look around there are guys with years quit who stay because this place helps them keep their quit strong.
Proud to quit with you today. Post roll with enthusiasm and hate nic.

JGlav - 432
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: AppleJack on November 09, 2016, 08:44:00 AM
Quote from: texasxb
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
Why are you coming back then?

Our attitude and methodology won't change... I think you're a smart enough guy to have figured that out. If you're so hell bent on doing it alone...

Why are you coming back?

You don't get to whine, bitch, rage, curse, call out, judge, or anything until you POST ROLL!

Then, as long as you do it religiously... you can do whatever the hell you want.

But... until you pay the price of our admission...

GTFO
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: texasxb on November 09, 2016, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
Why are you coming back then?

Our attitude and methodology won't change... I think you're a smart enough guy to have figured that out. If you're so hell bent on doing it alone...

Why are you coming back?

You don't get to whine, bitch, rage, curse, call out, judge, or anything until you POST ROLL!

Then, as long as you do it religiously... you can do whatever the hell you want.

But... until you pay the price of our admission...

GTFO
I came back to simply thank the person who actually helped me. Then, pride wouldn't let me leave without telling you fuckers that I'm still quit.
With that, I'm out.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: jpetmpls on November 09, 2016, 05:12:00 PM
Quote from: texasxb
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: texasxb
Such judgmental shit...
Haven't touched tobacco since that day, and I have zero desire to.
Sometimes ppl just need encouragement, and all but one of you failed at that. I won't be posting roll, yet I will make it.
Why are you coming back then?

Our attitude and methodology won't change... I think you're a smart enough guy to have figured that out. If you're so hell bent on doing it alone...

Why are you coming back?

You don't get to whine, bitch, rage, curse, call out, judge, or anything until you POST ROLL!

Then, as long as you do it religiously... you can do whatever the hell you want.

But... until you pay the price of our admission...

GTFO
I came back to simply thank the person who actually helped me. Then, pride wouldn't let me leave without telling you fuckers that I'm still quit.
With that, I'm out.
It's too bad you don't recognize that we are all trying to help you.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on November 09, 2016, 09:08:00 PM
topic/1011493/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011493/1/)

Hey Texas. There is about 30 pages of fist bumping I don't need your help fuck you guys you are mean and lame Im so smart I am the most bad ass quitter this is my last post I really mean it this time you guys so yeah fuck you... in the link above. You can save some time typing and just copy and paste from this when you come back.

Have a nice day.

Worktowin
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: pab1964 on November 10, 2016, 07:45:00 AM
Uh bye bye! Have a nice life! And remember we told you so when your knuckle deep getting your fox!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: JGlav on November 10, 2016, 08:52:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
topic/1011493/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011493/1/)

Hey Texas. There is about 30 pages of fist bumping I don't need your help fuck you guys you are mean and lame Im so smart I am the most bad ass quitter this is my last post I really mean it this time you guys so yeah fuck you... in the link above. You can save some time typing and just copy and paste from this when you come back.

Have a nice day.

Worktowin
I hate you Worktowin. I have to go get new underwear as I have now soiled these from laughing my ass off on that thread. Ranks up there with the guy hiding
his tin behind his ball sack. (.....like you never did that)
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: worktowin on November 10, 2016, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: JGlav
Quote from: worktowin
topic/1011493/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011493/1/)

Hey Texas. There is about 30 pages of fist bumping I don't need your help fuck you guys you are mean and lame Im so smart I am the most bad ass quitter this is my last post I really mean it this time you guys so yeah fuck you... in the link above. You can save some time typing and just copy and paste from this when you come back.

Have a nice day.

Worktowin
I hate you Worktowin. I have to go get new underwear as I have now soiled these from laughing my ass off on that thread. Ranks up there with the guy hiding
his tin behind his ball sack. (.....like you never did that)
Haha! Yeah man, I have to admit to having a Kodiak can nestled up to the jewels a few times.

WCW was one of a kind, or so I thought.
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: Doc2quit4good on November 10, 2016, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: JGlav
Quote from: worktowin
topic/1011493/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011493/1/)

Hey Texas. There is about 30 pages of fist bumping I don't need your help fuck you guys you are mean and lame Im so smart I am the most bad ass quitter this is my last post I really mean it this time you guys so yeah fuck you... in the link above. You can save some time typing and just copy and paste from this when you come back.

Have a nice day.

Worktowin
I hate you Worktowin. I have to go get new underwear as I have now soiled these from laughing my ass off on that thread. Ranks up there with the guy hiding
his tin behind his ball sack. (.....like you never did that)
Haha! Yeah man, I have to admit to having a Kodiak can nestled up to the jewels a few times.

WCW was one of a kind, or so I thought.
Hey you guys don't worry. i pm'ed this guy yesterday and I'm sure he will be right back tomorrow!!! Live on WCW!!!
Title: Re: Tired and terrified...
Post by: rdad on November 11, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Quote from: doc2quit4good
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: JGlav
Quote from: worktowin
topic/1011493/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011493/1/)

Hey Texas. There is about 30 pages of fist bumping I don't need your help fuck you guys you are mean and lame Im so smart I am the most bad ass quitter this is my last post I really mean it this time you guys so yeah fuck you... in the link above. You can save some time typing and just copy and paste from this when you come back.

Have a nice day.

Worktowin
I hate you Worktowin. I have to go get new underwear as I have now soiled these from laughing my ass off on that thread. Ranks up there with the guy hiding
his tin behind his ball sack. (.....like you never did that)
Haha! Yeah man, I have to admit to having a Kodiak can nestled up to the jewels a few times.

WCW was one of a kind, or so I thought.
Hey you guys don't worry. i pm'ed this guy yesterday and I'm sure he will be right back tomorrow!!! Live on WCW!!!
Oh man. The memories of that tool! That was fun though till while it lasted.