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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Gooch on April 26, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
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6 days in and things are going well in the grand scheme. Yesterday and today however I've had some pretty nasty headaches. Can't decide if they're from too much caffeine or not enough. Or is my body still adjusting to the lack of nicotine? What do you guys think? Out of curiosity, any other Iowan's out there?
Gooch
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6 days in and things are going well in the grand scheme. Yesterday and today however I've had some pretty nasty headaches. Can't decide if they're from too much caffeine or not enough. Or is my body still adjusting to the lack of nicotine? What do you guys think? Out of curiosity, any other Iowan's out there?
Gooch
Hey Gooch, I went through the same thing. I had headaches so bad I was nauseous. Stay with it - it only lasted a few days for me and I've felt great ever since. Drink lots of water and try to sleep through as much of it as you can.
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Gooch- not for sure but I would say "all of the above" I'm on day 25 and I just started to get some headaches....but I've also tried to cutback on the caffeine the last few days. I also believe that a lot of the stuff is psychological and your brain trying to get you to throw a big fatty in. Stay quit and it goes away. As a lot of people have told me- remember how bad this sucks so that you never have to do it again.
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Thanks for the input fella's, woke up this morning without a headache. Nice largemouth gherritz. Ice just came off our lakes here in Iowa a couple weeks ago. Bittersweet, signals the end of a fantastic ice fishing season but the walleye opener is next weekend. Getting out on the water will be the true test for me, major trigger. Always had a fatty in when I was on the water.
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Gooch- same for me, but have been on the open water a couple times already (WI). After the first couple minutes you'll realize how much more time you have to cast and worry about fishing instead of spitting and putting diggers in. More time=more fish in the boat!
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What have you been fishing already, walleye on a river? Not sure if you've ever heard of Lake Okoboji or Big Spirit Lake in Iowa but that's where we live(Big Spirit). Took the kids to the fish hatchery today, fun to see the huge walleye and musky they've netted. I saw more musky over 40 inches today than I've seen in my life. Today was a week for me. No headaches today, thank God.
Gooch
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Glad to hear you're feeling better. We've been fishing 'eyes and smallmouth on the Wisconsin River since it's open all year. Our opener is this weekend and would be a little more fired up if it wasn't for my turkey season this week. I have heard of both of those lakes and if I remember correct Okoboji is famous for it's slab gills and having to sight fish them. Make sure to check out the outdoors section on the "wildcard" thread on this site, a little slow right now but I'll be posting each time I get out.
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Gooch,
Headaches plauged me for the first couple weeks. Your body chemistry is changing and that's part of the reason. Hang tuff they will pass, if you need any thing PM me I'll shoot you my number.
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Glad to hear you're feeling better. We've been fishing 'eyes and smallmouth on the Wisconsin River since it's open all year. Our opener is this weekend and would be a little more fired up if it wasn't for my turkey season this week. I have heard of both of those lakes and if I remember correct Okoboji is famous for it's slab gills and having to sight fish them. Make sure to check out the outdoors section on the "wildcard" thread on this site, a little slow right now but I'll be posting each time I get out.
I'll check it out thanks for the heads up. You are exactly right on the slab gills and yes the water is "gin clear" pretty much year round. Ice fishing is a blast, no need for Vexilar you see everything you catch. I'll have to post when I get out as well on the wildcard thread. Again thanks for the info.
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I have been amazed at reading posts from the rest of you fellas at the similarities we all have in how nicotine literally took control of our lives. Don't get me wrong, I take full responsibility for my addiction. But I have to stop and ask the question, what the f---? I look at the decades that this drug has controlled not only my life but so many of yours as well. Is it not the easiest thing in the world to do each night before nodding of to sleep, to tell yourself tomorrow is the big day I'll finally quit. This was a nightly routine for me for the better part of 20 years. But with each new day, I couldn't eat my breakfast and brush my teeth fast enough to get that first chew of the day in for the commute to work. It's what my life revolved around. That's pretty sad when you've got a wonderful wife and two of the sweetest kids you could ask for. I thank God every day for the fact that I found the strength each day for the last 11 days to make a comittment to abstain from nicotine. This site has been instrumental in my success as well and I thank you all for your support.
Gooch
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I have been amazed at reading posts from the rest of you fellas at the similarities we all have in how nicotine literally took control of our lives. Don't get me wrong, I take full responsibility for my addiction. But I have to stop and ask the question, what the f---? I look at the decades that this drug has controlled not only my life but so many of yours as well. Is it not the easiest thing in the world to do each night before nodding of to sleep, to tell yourself tomorrow is the big day I'll finally quit. This was a nightly routine for me for the better part of 20 years. But with each new day, I couldn't eat my breakfast and brush my teeth fast enough to get that first chew of the day in for the commute to work. It's what my life revolved around. That's pretty sad when you've got a wonderful wife and two of the sweetest kids you could ask for. I thank God every day for the fact that I found the strength each day for the last 11 days to make a comittment to abstain from nicotine. This site has been instrumental in my success as well and I thank you all for your support.
Gooch
This is where the quit happens, You just got to come here and take it.
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I hear you fella, 11 days in and I'm strong. Don't want to get overconfident but I've never felt better about quitting than I have each of the last 11 days. Gonna take each day as it comes, no more no less.
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I hear you fella, 11 days in and I'm strong. Don't want to get overconfident but I've never felt better about quitting than I have each of the last 11 days. Gonna take each day as it comes, no more no less.
Yeah.......stories are all about the same. Started for some stupid reason swore we'd quit a million times try about as many and failed.
Then one day you see the light and find this site and the rest is history.
I dropped a 30 year addiction 122 days ago and don't plan on going back, at least not today and I will handle tomorrow when it gets here.
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Good work Buckfever, feels good don't it?
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Good work Buckfever, feels good don't it?
It Feels GREAT!!!!!
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Guys- Reading the different posts throughout the site has made the difference for me. 6 days w/out after 24 years of Cope. I'm hangin, but cautious. I read the posts at different times and it keeps me good. Nodipnow
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Guys- Reading the different posts throughout the site has made the difference for me. 6 days w/out after 24 years of Cope. I'm hangin, but cautious. I read the posts at different times and it keeps me good. Nodipnow
Cool thing bout this site is there is plenty of info on what you need to expect the further you go. No surprises if you have read about it and knnow it is coming....kinda lets you "brace" yourself and you know bout how long it will last.
You are starting off great....just keep posting early and then keep your word...today.
I also gave up a 29 year habit of cope....122 days ago.
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I'm hangin, but cautious. Nodipnow
Not cautious, bold! Everybody here knows what your deal is. You know what everyone else went or is going through. There are no secrets here, JUST DO IT!
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Not really an introduction as some of you know. Just wanted to share something quick. Was hospitalized yesterday with a bowel obstruction. No worries however, got things "moving" again this morning. Damn that Demerol is amazing, where was it when I was going through withdrawl. What I wanted to share with you guys is the first thought that went through my head when I realized I was going to be hospitalized was "oh shit, how am I gonna post role?" Having had time to reflect on that thought, I think it shows my level of committment to this quit and more than anything I guess I'm pretty proud of that. How did I post this morning you might ask? Conned a student nurse into letting me borrow one of the hospital's laptops. On a sidenote, she's really hot. Not sure what else I can "con" her into.(Just Kidding, I'm a married man.)
Gooch
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....and the light goes on....
looks like we got us a quitter up in here
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Not really an introduction as some of you know. Just wanted to share something quick. Was hospitalized yesterday with a bowel obstruction. No worries however, got things "moving" again this morning. Damn that Demerol is amazing, where was it when I was going through withdrawl. What I wanted to share with you guys is the first thought that went through my head when I realized I was going to be hospitalized was "oh shit, how am I gonna post role?" Having had time to reflect on that thought, I think it shows my level of committment to this quit and more than anything I guess I'm pretty proud of that. How did I post this morning you might ask? Conned a student nurse into letting me borrow one of the hospital's laptops. On a sidenote, she's really hot. Not sure what else I can "con" her into.(Just Kidding, I'm a married man.)
Gooch
oooo oooo oooo sponge bath....
Congrats gooch. That is the thinkin that has kept me quit and is workin on you. Hope your "obstruction" gets straightened out.
When you have an opportunity, go to the 02 etc Old Timers group.....Mahum has sum chili that could probably have kept you out of the hospital. _
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Thanks Mule, hadn't thought of the sponge bath yet. You might be on to something there. They haven't let me eat anything since admitted, as potent as that chili might be it still sounds damn good.
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Some of you may remember me, others not. Made the HOF last July. I'm back today posting day 1. A bit humbling but something I need to do. I'm not offering any excuses. Simply put, I screwed up. Quit posting roll and the wheels eventually came flying off. This is my new quit. By posting roll this morning I promise to stay off the chew today. I know the next few days are going to be super shitty but I did it to myself and now will suffer the consequences willingly.
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Some of you may remember me, others not. Made the HOF last July. I'm back today posting day 1. A bit humbling but something I need to do. I'm not offering any excuses. Simply put, I screwed up. Quit posting roll and the wheels eventually came flying off. This is my new quit. By posting roll this morning I promise to stay off the chew today. I know the next few days are going to be super shitty but I did it to myself and now will suffer the consequences willingly.
Well Shit!!!!!!!
Just goes to show that making the HOF doesn't mean you are cured of this addiction. It is something that will have to be dealt with on a daily basis for the rest of ourt lives. At least you were smart enough to Kick the can again and start a new quit! Maybe if you shared the story of what happened to cause your cave, it will help someone else that is in the same situation. Good luck and stay quit!!!!!!
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Thanks for the feedback scooter. My plan is to take each day as it comes. Eventually, when I'm thinking a little clearer I will indeed process through my thinking leading up to my cave. If doing so can help me or someone else from making a similar mistake, so be it.
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Gooch...where you at bro...I need you to post roll
Brian
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I am sure more people go back to dip after HOF than we will ever know. I quit for a year or more on my own one time and one day decided I wanted to dip again and did so for at least 5 years before hitting bottom again. It would be harder this time around since i would get my ass whooped by a lot of folks on this site. Welcome back Gooch
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Gooch, great decision to quit and thanks for posting that you were HOF. I am only on day 12 but your post reinforces the need to go a day at a time! I'm off the next few days and will be on here alot, shoot me a pm if ya need to bs...we all know the first few days suck, but are worth it!
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First off, thanks to Kodiak Dan and NMC. You guys are a huge part of why I'm writing this today. A lot of you guys know me as I'm no stranger to this site. For those of you who don't, read on as you may learn from my mistake.
Two weekends ago I was sitting on day 48 with anticipation of hitting the mini milestone of 50 the following Monday. I let my guard down, plain and simple. I Let myself, my family and all of you down. For that I apoligize. Know this, I bought a can of Skoal straight on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday(April 5-7th). I didn't post roll on those days, not that it makes it right... I'm just saying. On Tuesday(April 7th), I was wrapping up the day at work when Kodiak Dan called out of the blue. God bless you Dan because your call and words of inquiry and support made a huge difference. Started processing what had happened an the downward spiral I was heading down. I went home, flushed what remained in my tin and have been quit ever since(Day 6).
I made a poor choice that day and the next two that followed. I let myself, my family and you guys down. For that I do apoligize. I will never attempt to make an excuse for such behavior because there is no valid reason to start using again and never will be. Listen to me when I say there was no gratification from that first chew, only feelings of guilt and regret. Learn from my fuck up fellas, you will regret a cave immediately after it happens.
I write this so you all know exactly what happened to me. I worry that some of you will look at me as the "boy who cried wolf." This is now my 3rd go round on this site. If you take nothing else away from this, remember this- Keep your guard up at all times. Don't ever think you're bigger than your addiction. I made that mistake and here I am yet again. I will be posting in July, Day 6 immediately after wrapping up this message.
Thank's again Dan and NMC, you guys are the best.
Gooch
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Dam..... I support you.... Glad to here hav ing a dip made u feel like a dickhead.... That what I suspect a cave would feel like....
Personally I just don't want to give up my days.... Don't give up your days again, or we will have to hurt you...
Don't worry we won't tell your wife..... Like in the movie goodfellas " we provide protection for those that can't tell the cops (or your wiv es)
Fukukodiak
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Gooch...
As with last time...anything I can do to help let me know.
Brian
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...you will regret a cave immediately after it happens. Â
Bullshit, I will never regret a cave.
It's a shame you just shat all over the May group. Sounds like they were there for you the entire time. Hopefully July will hold your hand as well and you won't spit on their feet too. Quitting nicotine is more than a physical process. You need to redefine your priorities. How valuable is your word? Can you be trusted? Do you even deserve this?
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God Damnit Gooch this shit is getting really old!!!!!! 'blowup' 'blowup' You would be aproaching 365 days if you would have stayed quit!!!!! This site is about quitting, and it's a simple plan, post your word that day that you will not dip, keep your word, then repeat each day after that!!! It's not post roll for a while (in your case over 100 days) then cave, come back appologize, post day 1 then cave again!!!! I am fucking pissed!!!!! Seems like almost every post in introductions today is from cavers who are posting up a day 1, instead of new quitters looking to save their lives. What really makes me mad is you cavers won't even explain why you caved, what caused you to cave, what you did wrong to cause the cave, or what you are going to do different this time to make damn sure you don't cave and how you are going to keep your word to your brothers. 'bang head' Believe me, I want you and other cavers to succeed in your quit, and I will support you in that effort. But by God I am sick and tired of guys like you who shit all over this site and the good people who are trying to help you!!! :angry: :angry: You could have been a great role model and supporter for new quitters by now, instead we have to keep wasting time helping you out with your multiple quits. I'm sorry, but you have a ton of credibility to repair before most will give you the time of day!!!! I am sure their are many people who have spent their valuable time helping and supporting you for the last year, only to see you shit on them everytime. Welcome to July 2009 and here's hoping that you are serious about saving your life this time, and not just shitting on another quit group!!!! And yes I am going to post this over in July, I think they deserve to know what you are all about before they waste time on you. You are going to have to prove yourself to this entire site, this time, and if there is such a thing as last chances, you are on it!!!!!
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.
Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.
Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.
Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.
Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:
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Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.
Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.
Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:
JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch
Well, I would rather lose sleep or something than lose a quit brother.
Call someone next time or go to Chat.
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.
Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.
Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:
JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch
Now you need to put that good advice into action. You know how this place works. There is absolutely no way in hell that you should ever get to the point of actually buying a tin.
That's where is comes down to a decision.....to quit or to give up.
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Gooch - I have no idea why you caved. Only you can answer at that exact moment that you decided that instead of putting your plan into action and either getting on KTC Chat, PM'ing or calling a quit brother, you went out and bought a can of chew, then proceeded to eat that shit. Let's say, you live littereally right the fuck next to a C store. It would take you atleast 5 minutes to walk your fucking ass over there, stand in line staring at the endless supply of cancer, tell the clerk to move her fat ass over to said endless supply of cancer to get you a can of suicide, then walk her fat ass back to the register to ring you up. Upon which you would walk outside and slide your car key (I chew my nails so I had to use a car key) around the edge to cut it open. Then pack it (kinda like you do with your tube sock on a lonely Friday night) then pinch it and shove that squeezed dip of cancer in your mouth.
Only to realize you've had about (on the low side) 30 guys that would literally drop whatever they are doing, driving, making love, in a business meeting, working etc to talk you out of caving. I am one of them. I'm sorry you caved.
Please call me before you do it again. Hell son. Welcome back. Don't fuck it up again. :ph43r:
JPCrew-
Thank you. That's truthfully some of the best feedback I've gotten to far. I needed to hear that.
Gooch
Now you need to put that good advice into action. You know how this place works. There is absolutely no way in hell that you should ever get to the point of actually buying a tin.
That's where is comes down to a decision.....to quit or to give up.
Shit, Gooch. wtf. Before you said - "Eventually, when I'm thinking a little clearer I will indeed process through my thinking leading up to my cave." Now you say "Started processing what had happened..." and " I write this so you all know exactly what happened to me." But I don't have a clue what happened this time, either.
Figure out what happened. It's not just that you owe it to May and everyone else. You owe it to yourself to practice a little introspection and figure it out. Root cause analysis and corrective action. Figure it out so you can see it coming. Before you start believing the cry wolf thing. If that happens you'll never be free.
Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. - Al Einstein.
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Thank you all for the feedback today. From the ass chewing to the more nurturing approach, I took it all in. I've certainly given plenty of advice on this site so it's only fair that I listen to what you guys have to say.
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So you made a conscience decision to dip????
Fukodiak!!! !!
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I blame it on May....I'd cave just to get out of that group too. July looks pretty cool; THE REVOLUTIONARIES
Nice. Wait to be supportive. Go fuck yourself.
I agree. Tfurrh, you are right. May fucked their brother over because they are more worried about how to post than if you post.
Yup. How to post roll is all I care about. It's amazing how much energy I put into it. What outernal said.
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Thank you all for the feedback today. From the ass chewing to the more nurturing approach, I took it all in. I've certainly given plenty of advice on this site so it's only fair that I listen to what you guys have to say.
I just puked in my mouth a little bit.
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Just wanted to share some info with my fellow July quitters. Check out what Kodiak Killer posted in roll this morning, you may find it helpful.
It got me thinking about my own journey and failed attempts to quit. The brief rundown is, HOF last year and then caved around day 140 or so. Most recently caved at day 47 just last week.
During my first go round on this site I connected with nobody. Never chatted or got digits for times where I needed support - big mistake.
The second go round I got digits from a couple of guys but they weren't guys that I knew that well. What I found out is when my chips were down and I was struggling, I needed to be able to call someone I knew and felt comfortable talking to about my struggle. This may be different for you and if so go with what works for you. I'm just saying when faced with a crisis, odds are I'm not going to call someone I've never connected with.
Here's what I've done to correct that flaw in my failed previous quit attempts. I got in chat and connected with a handful of guys. You'll discover if you do this inevitably there will be a few guys that you have similar interests with and whatnot. You'll eventually develop a rapport with these guys.
These are the guys that I recommed exchanging phone numbers with and let them know directly that you have made them part of your quit plan.
I just did this earlier this week and am feeling a lot better about facing tough moments if and when they come, knowing I've got numbers programmed into my phone that I can call for support.
It may sound simple and maybe you guys are all a hell of a lot smarter than me and have already done this, if so good job - you're well on your way.
I want to wrap this up by letting you guys know as shitty as I feel about my previous failed attempts to quit, I feel good now and am willing to answer any questions about my fuck ups in hopes that it will help you guys from traveling down the same road.
Gooch
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I have only two questions: Why did you cave at day 140? Why did you again cave at day 47?
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Dean, it's hard to explain but I'll do my best. I know one of my biggest downfalls has been not having a specific plan in place as to what I'm going to do when faced with the thought of caving.
I have read that most craves last no more than 3 minutes. When I caved 11 days ago I can honestly tell you I woke up at 6am and had a crave non-stop until rougly 9p that evening when I ultimately fucked up and caved. Prior to that I hadn't had a crave for weeks. I have no idea why on that given day I had such a severe crave that lasted as long as it did. I know what I'll do if it happens again however and that's where my new plan comes into play.
Bottom line is this, in the past I truly thought I could do this on my own. Not sure if it was an ego thing or what but that's what I thought. I have learned the hard way that I can't and am now willing to utilize the help when needed. I have two fellow quit brothers on the top of my list to call if and when needed. If I can't reach them I have two backups programmed in as well.
Gooch
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
Not sure if its called a plan, but I have fake shit stashed all over the place. Pick ups, office, house, next to the computer, on the kitchen table, etc. And the seeds on the office desk and coffe table. Got a couple of numbers programmed in the phone.
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a little note in my wallet that I see when I open it up to buy anything that says "No Snuff"
What you do guys think? Anything else I should add or do?
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
Not sure if its called a plan, but I have fake shit stashed all over the place. Pick ups, office, house, next to the computer, on the kitchen table, etc. And the seeds on the office desk and coffe table. Got a couple of numbers programmed in the phone.
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a little note in my wallet that I see when I open it up to buy anything that says "No Snuff"
What you do guys think? Anything else I should add or do?
SOLID!
One thing that really stood out to me when I first started my quit, came from Loot - quitter extraordinaire:
If I feel the urge to use nicotine, I literally verbalize my strength.
"I am free"
"I am in control"
"I am quit"
"I am worth it"
I try to keep my wording positive. Not, "I will not cave" rather "I am quit for today". It sounds goofy, but it really helps beat those craves.
Also, remember you don't have to quit for the rest of your lives. You sure as shit better quit for today though. You've posted roll and you've given your word. This is paraphrasing, but I remember Loot saying something like, "Alright nic bitch...you may get me a year from now, you may get me next week - but you will not get me today. Today, I am quit." Yell it if it makes you feel better. Better to look insane than die of cancer.
Posting roll today simply means you will be back tomorrow to post the same number +1. Never miss a day's post. There is no excuse.
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Here is the contract. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
Keep a copy in your wallet in case you decide to cave.
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Here is simplistic for you...but I still do this EVERY morning.
Wake up...head to the bathroom to start morning business...look in the mirror and say out loud, "That decision has been made today." It is th sig of every e mail I send...people who don't know I am quitting probably think I'm insane. And it is the background of the desk top of every computer I work on. I have made that my purpose. JUST FOR TODAY. I'll take care of tomorrow morning when it gets here.
I then post early...just so everybody here will know that I have made that commitment today.
Hope this helps.
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Here is simplistic for you...but I still do this EVERY morning.
Wake up...head to the bathroom to start morning business...look in the mirror and say out loud, "That decision has been made today." It is th sig of every e mail I send...people who don't know I am quitting probably think I'm insane. And it is the background of the desk top of every computer I work on. I have made that my purpose. JUST FOR TODAY. I'll take care of tomorrow morning when it gets here.
I then post early...just so everybody here will know that I have made that commitment today.
Hope this helps.
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by jove i think he's got it.
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Gooch u were listed in the 1yr milestones yesterday.... See what u threw away... Don't dip anymore.....
Fukukodiak!!!
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That's fucked up. I was just thinking about that last night, how if I would of kept my shit together I'd be at a year now.
I'm feeling much stronger than ever before, have a good plan in place - I'm quit and loving it.
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
Smokey-
I've been mulling over your question for the better part of two days. What suggestions do you have for a situation where your cell phone isn't an option for whatever reason? I'm looking for your help on this one.
Gooch
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
Smokey-
I've been mulling over your question for the better part of two days. What suggestions do you have for a situation where your cell phone isn't an option for whatever reason? I'm looking for your help on this one.
Gooch
Look below at what Montana Rob suggested!!! If fake snuff helps keep a can handy wherever you are!!! It really helped me out. I use hooch and I don't think I could have done this without it. Chewed the shit out of it in the beginning. After 100 days or so it gets boring and you just don't need it as often, hwever, I still have craves so I keep some around. Seeds, Gum, candy, straws, anything to stick in your pie hole until the crave is gone. Keep the signed contract handy and above all post roll first thing in the morning and take that day off the board. It's been said before, but I'll say it again. You can't quit for the rest of your life, but you can quit everyday for the rest of your life!!!
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For the sake of building a solid plan:
What will you do if you don't have your phone and you get hit with a 15 hour crave?
"I always have my phone" is not an acceptable answer. Don't put your quit in the hands of technology.
Smokey-
I've been mulling over your question for the better part of two days. What suggestions do you have for a situation where your cell phone isn't an option for whatever reason? I'm looking for your help on this one.
Gooch
Look below at what Montana Rob suggested!!! If fake snuff helps keep a can handy wherever you are!!! It really helped me out. I use hooch and I don't think I could have done this without it. Chewed the shit out of it in the beginning. After 100 days or so it gets boring and you just don't need it as often, hwever, I still have craves so I keep some around. Seeds, Gum, candy, straws, anything to stick in your pie hole until the crave is gone. Keep the signed contract handy and above all post roll first thing in the morning and take that day off the board. It's been said before, but I'll say it again. You can't quit for the rest of your life, but you can quit everyday for the rest of your life!!!
Yeah man, I don't think there's much more I can say. You've got a wide array of helpful suggestions if you read all the messages below. Pick what works best for you. Keep it simple. At the very least, print out the contract and slip it in your wallet. Make the rest your own.
And always remember that no matter how bad a situation gets, nicotine will NEVER provide a solution. You are strong.
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Thanks Smokey-
I appreciate your input and support.
Gooch
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Gooch,,,,,,
Perhaps u need a reminder why we quit,
I like to read this link, don't fuck up bro..
We don't quit cuz our wives think its gross or expensive, and nobody here is cancer proof.
And to be a bit superstitious if u don't know anybody with dip cancer, fate may have you marked as the one, in your world... Would any of ur friends fam be suprised if gooch called and said he's got mouth cancer,,, nah they'd be shocked but not suprised.....
Remember they chop you up like u owe them money and you die soon
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/navin.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/navin.asp)
Fukukodiak!!!
And yes gooch, I don't know y your cave bugs me.... Seriously, I don't care about starving kids in africa.....
Be tough dip is for pussies
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Bear-
Thanks for the words. Truthfully I'm glad my cave bugs you and hope it bugs everyone else on this site(which I'm sure it does). I take complete ownership for the cave and didn't utilize the tools I should of. The important thing is I've learned from the cave and have made changes in my thinking and plan should I be faced with a similar situation in the near future. I just hope others will learn from my mistake, like I have. I'll never say it would make my cave "worth it" cuz it wouldn't. But at least maybe something good could come from it.
I will never condone a cave and trust me I know how bad I fucked up. My focus from here on out will be to support and prevent others from potentially making the same mistake. In doing so I know in time I can earn the respect back that I lost.
Thanks again,
Gooch
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Bear-
Thanks for the words. Truthfully I'm glad my cave bugs you and hope it bugs everyone else on this site(which I'm sure it does). I take complete ownership for the cave and didn't utilize the tools I should of. The important thing is I've learned from the cave and have made changes in my thinking and plan should I be faced with a similar situation in the near future. I just hope others will learn from my mistake, like I have. I'll never say it would make my cave "worth it" cuz it wouldn't. But at least maybe something good could come from it.
I will never condone a cave and trust me I know how bad I fucked up. My focus from here on out will be to support and prevent others from potentially making the same mistake. In doing so I know in time I can earn the respect back that I lost.
Thanks again,
Gooch
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Bear-
Thanks for the words. Truthfully I'm glad my cave bugs you and hope it bugs everyone else on this site(which I'm sure it does). I take complete ownership for the cave and didn't utilize the tools I should of. The important thing is I've learned from the cave and have made changes in my thinking and plan should I be faced with a similar situation in the near future. I just hope others will learn from my mistake, like I have. I'll never say it would make my cave "worth it" cuz it wouldn't. But at least maybe something good could come from it.
I will never condone a cave and trust me I know how bad I fucked up. My focus from here on out will be to support and prevent others from potentially making the same mistake. In doing so I know in time I can earn the respect back that I lost.
Thanks again,
Gooch
What happened to this guy???????????????
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Guess mouth cancer thinned the herd...
Only the strong survive
Fukukodiak!!!!