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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Geno on January 03, 2012, 06:56:00 PM
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I've been dipping cope regular since I was 14. I switched to the cope long cut at about age 28 or so. Im 45 years old now. I wake up every morning looking for my can. I love a a good dip in the morning shower. I have a dip in my mouth throughout most of the day. I used to spit but don't even do that any more. My body has become so used to this stuff that I don't even produce the saliva to spit. If I have to talk or give a speech for any length of time, I just swallow any saliva and it doesn't phase me at all. I can hide this stuff pretty well and most never know that I have tobacco in my mouth. My dentist craps on me everytime I go to get my teeth cleaned. My wife has been dogging me out about the dipping for the past five years, and my mother was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips. I think it's time, even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting. Thanks for listening...
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I've been dipping cope regular since I was 14. I switched to the cope long cut at about age 28 or so. Im 45 years old now. I wake up every morning looking for my can. I love a a good dip in the morning shower. I have a dip in my mouth throughout most of the day. I used to spit but don't even do that any more. My body has become so used to this stuff that I don't even produce the saliva to spit. If I have to talk or give a speech for any length of time, I just swallow any saliva and it doesn't phase me at all. I can hide this stuff pretty well and most never know that I have tobacco in my mouth. My dentist craps on me everytime I go to get my teeth cleaned. My wife has been dogging me out about the dipping for the past five years, and my mother was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips. I think it's time, even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting. Thanks for listening...
Geno,
first off, nice fucking decision. i'm proud that you've fought through the initial fear to post here. i remember how hard THAT was.
second, the way this place works is as follows:
1. post roll. it's our daily promise to not use nic in any form for the rest of the day. you will post roll here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5688) And this is how to post roll. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
2. keep your word. KTC is built upon accountability. you give your word to us, and we give ours to you. we're men and women of honor, so we keep it.
3. repeat
visit the welcome center link at the top of the page. it's pink, or salmon, depending on the orientation of who you ask.
we all know what you're going through, and we all know that if we could do this, so can you. it's hard, but it's worth it.
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You have come to the right place. Follow dchogs advice and you can conquer this.
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I've been dipping cope regular since I was 14. I switched to the cope long cut at about age 28 or so. Im 45 years old now. I wake up every morning looking for my can. I love a a good dip in the morning shower. I have a dip in my mouth throughout most of the day. I used to spit but don't even do that any more. My body has become so used to this stuff that I don't even produce the saliva to spit. If I have to talk or give a speech for any length of time, I just swallow any saliva and it doesn't phase me at all. I can hide this stuff pretty well and most never know that I have tobacco in my mouth. My dentist craps on me everytime I go to get my teeth cleaned. My wife has been dogging me out about the dipping for the past five years, and my mother was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips. I think it's time, even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting. Thanks for listening...
now for a KTC lesson on addict speak.
1. you do not love a dip in the morning, and there's no such thing as a good dip. all you were feeling is the relief of your night time withdraw symptoms. guess what caused those symptoms... yep, using nicotine. you use, you later feel like shit, so you use again to feel back to normal. it's a fucked up thing. and we all did it to ourselves.
2. you can't "think it's time." you must know it is time. any small crack of weakness, and sliver of light that you allow the nic bitch to see will be the opportunity she uses to get back into your life. if you're not sure about this, you better get that way quick. start reading stuff on this site. how about this. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp) make up your fucking mind now, or the nic bitch will do it for you.
3. do not romanticize dip. it did not make you fish better. it does not help you mow the lawn. the only thing it helps you do is get cancer, lose your jaw, your tongue, or your face. there is nothing that you do with dip that can't be done without. it'll feel weird at first (like jacking off with your left hand), but you'll get to a point where it feels as good, if not better, than with dip.
this is a gut-check, fight for your life battle, friend. you need to post roll, keep your word, get involved on the site, and never forget that you're an addict. if you do those things, you'll be quit. it's simple, but not easy.
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I've been dipping cope regular since I was 14. I switched to the cope long cut at about age 28 or so. Im 45 years old now. I wake up every morning looking for my can. I love a a good dip in the morning shower. I have a dip in my mouth throughout most of the day. I used to spit but don't even do that any more. My body has become so used to this stuff that I don't even produce the saliva to spit. If I have to talk or give a speech for any length of time, I just swallow any saliva and it doesn't phase me at all. I can hide this stuff pretty well and most never know that I have tobacco in my mouth. My dentist craps on me everytime I go to get my teeth cleaned. My wife has been dogging me out about the dipping for the past five years, and my mother was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips. I think it's time, even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting. Thanks for listening...
now for a KTC lesson on addict speak.
1. you do not love a dip in the morning, and there's no such thing as a good dip. all you were feeling is the relief of your night time withdraw symptoms. guess what caused those symptoms... yep, using nicotine. you use, you later feel like shit, so you use again to feel back to normal. it's a fucked up thing. and we all did it to ourselves.
2. you can't "think it's time." you must know it is time. any small crack of weakness, and sliver of light that you allow the nic bitch to see will be the opportunity she uses to get back into your life. if you're not sure about this, you better get that way quick. start reading stuff on this site. how about this. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp) make up your fucking mind now, or the nic bitch will do it for you.
3. do not romanticize dip. it did not make you fish better. it does not help you mow the lawn. the only thing it helps you do is get cancer, lose your jaw, your tongue, or your face. there is nothing that you do with dip that can't be done without. it'll feel weird at first (like jacking off with your left hand), but you'll get to a point where it feels as good, if not better, than with dip.
this is a gut-check, fight for your life battle, friend. you need to post roll, keep your word, get involved on the site, and never forget that you're an addict. if you do those things, you'll be quit. it's simple, but not easy.
Wait a minute....using the LEFT hand is weird? Damn...I'm all backwards, then...I'm right handed and using my right just feels wrong....... :blink:
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I've been dipping cope regular since I was 14. I switched to the cope long cut at about age 28 or so. Im 45 years old now. I wake up every morning looking for my can. I love a a good dip in the morning shower. I have a dip in my mouth throughout most of the day. I used to spit but don't even do that any more. My body has become so used to this stuff that I don't even produce the saliva to spit. If I have to talk or give a speech for any length of time, I just swallow any saliva and it doesn't phase me at all. I can hide this stuff pretty well and most never know that I have tobacco in my mouth. My dentist craps on me everytime I go to get my teeth cleaned. My wife has been dogging me out about the dipping for the past five years, and my mother was just diagnosed with lung cancer. I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips. I think it's time, even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting. Thanks for listening...
now for a KTC lesson on addict speak.
1. you do not love a dip in the morning, and there's no such thing as a good dip. all you were feeling is the relief of your night time withdraw symptoms. guess what caused those symptoms... yep, using nicotine. you use, you later feel like shit, so you use again to feel back to normal. it's a fucked up thing. and we all did it to ourselves.
2. you can't "think it's time." you must know it is time. any small crack of weakness, and sliver of light that you allow the nic bitch to see will be the opportunity she uses to get back into your life. if you're not sure about this, you better get that way quick. start reading stuff on this site. how about this. (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/jennykern.asp) make up your fucking mind now, or the nic bitch will do it for you.
3. do not romanticize dip. it did not make you fish better. it does not help you mow the lawn. the only thing it helps you do is get cancer, lose your jaw, your tongue, or your face. there is nothing that you do with dip that can't be done without. it'll feel weird at first (like jacking off with your left hand), but you'll get to a point where it feels as good, if not better, than with dip.
this is a gut-check, fight for your life battle, friend. you need to post roll, keep your word, get involved on the site, and never forget that you're an addict. if you do those things, you'll be quit. it's simple, but not easy.
Wait a minute....using the LEFT hand is weird? Damn...I'm all backwards, then...I'm right handed and using my right just feels wrong....... :blink:
it might be wrong, but as long as it feels so right, it's all good.
maybe "off-hand" would have been better and more inclusive. forgot i should account for all the weirdos out there.
'jerk' even the smilies are "right handed."
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Keep Strong...I am on day 4 myself. Been chewing a can a day since 1997. This is my third and final attempt. I never got past day 1. I am on day 4...it sucks...but it is getting easier by the hour.
If you need someone to talk with pm me and I will give you my contact info...
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Gino,
My name is Jeff and I am in the same place. 27 days. Feel like shit but know its worh it. Long time cope user myself. I just wanted to say hello and let you know I am available to talk whenever you need to. I am going through a real rough patch with this but I know its going to get better. For you too.
Jeff
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Don't make this your "first attempt"... If there is one thing I hate more than anything on this site is people that just "attempt" to quit. I have a feeling this is why you haven't shown up in 2 days.... you made an "attempt". Get with the program if you are serious.
If you want to "attempt" I suggest going elsewhere... We don't do attempts here, we do QUIT's here.
That said, you won't miss the shit at all once you realize how much of a slave it made you. The first weeks are going to suck, I won't like about that. But at 324 days I can go fishing and I don't even think about dipping many times.
Just make that decision to not use it today and make tomorrow your goal. Wake up and do the same thing. It goes by faster than you will believe.
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Been dip free ever since my original post. I thought about a dip this morning when I got up, but I grabbed a strip of Jack Link's Teriyaki Beef Jerky. I also just rubbed out three nice Boston Butts and put them on the smoker. My neighbors love me (no they don't, it's the food stupid). I'm good to go. That Hooch Mint herbal is not too bad either, but this will be my first and last can of the herbal stuff. Mind over matter men....mind over matter!!
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thanks y'all! it's been a stressful week in general in my life. go down and feeling sad / frustrated about x y z it doesn't matter the point is, the nic bitch keeps whispering and it is BULLSHIT.
the stories y'all are telling on this page back and forth are SO helpful for me today - because hearing my own story in everyone else's stories just helps me know i'm not alone and i wasn't making all this up.
the lies to myself, the justification, the circular thinking. the doing bizarre things and not seeing them as bizarre. the whole CONCEPT in the FIRST place - i will now put a cancer-causing, tooth-decaying, addictive wad of chemicals and plant matter (mostly chemicals) into my face and hold it there for hours at a time. because ... it tastes good? because ... it's food? because ... it makes me feel better about myself?
nope.
because it is an addictive sick product designed to enslave. and i got hooked on it and i can choose not to be.
this is not an attempt to quit. (thank y'all for talking about the importance of that distinction that's helpful for me to see.)
i quit.
day 11 today.
thank you for this site, for this gift, for this support.
anyone need a text and a check-in, pm me and we can trade numbers.
bluebonnetman
'dance'
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thanks y'all! it's been a stressful week in general in my life. go down and feeling sad / frustrated about x y z it doesn't matter the point is, the nic bitch keeps whispering and it is BULLSHIT.
the stories y'all are telling on this page back and forth are SO helpful for me today - because hearing my own story in everyone else's stories just helps me know i'm not alone and i wasn't making all this up.
the lies to myself, the justification, the circular thinking. the doing bizarre things and not seeing them as bizarre. the whole CONCEPT in the FIRST place - i will now put a cancer-causing, tooth-decaying, addictive wad of chemicals and plant matter (mostly chemicals) into my face and hold it there for hours at a time. because ... it tastes good? because ... it's food? because ... it makes me feel better about myself?
nope.
because it is an addictive sick product designed to enslave. and i got hooked on it and i can choose not to be.
this is not an attempt to quit. (thank y'all for talking about the importance of that distinction that's helpful for me to see.)
i quit.
day 11 today.
thank you for this site, for this gift, for this support.
anyone need a text and a check-in, pm me and we can trade numbers.
bluebonnetman
'dance'
Good job. Nic does not solve problems. It creates them.
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I've managed to "wean" myself down to about two cans a week by taking smaller and smaller dips.
You have just managed to give yourself constant withdrawl.
I think it's time
You better know it is time or you will fail.
even though I'll miss it even more when the boat hits the river and the fish are biting.
You won't miss this shit at all. And I promise the fish will bite anyway.
Change your thinking and you can do this!
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Been dip free ever since my original post. I thought about a dip this morning when I got up, but I grabbed a strip of Jack Link's Teriyaki Beef Jerky. I also just rubbed out three nice Boston Butts and put them on the smoker. My neighbors love me (no they don't, it's the food stupid). I'm good to go. That Hooch Mint herbal is not too bad either, but this will be my first and last can of the herbal stuff. Mind over matter men....mind over matter!!
2 posts over 4 days. none in roll. this aint the face book. post roll or go find some face book frends what give a dam.