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Title: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 03:28:00 PM
Hi everyone,

I'm excited to join the site as quitter. I have chewed Berry Skoal and other tobacco since 1999, quitting a few times for as long as one year. I've never smoked. I am 36, have 4 kids, and live in MN.

I'm excited to be on this journey. I've chewed about 2 cans per week for years. I recently saw my 17-year old step son chewing and I am horrified by it. It is time to quit now.

My last chew was at 10/30/2016, my 36th birthday, at 11:30p.m., right after the world series game. That's it. I'm done. For me. For my family.

I will need your help. I am eating pistachios, chewing sunflower seeds, putting in "upper" Jack Link's beef jerky, just trying to shake the sweats. I have a million reasons why I want to quit, but there are these stupid justifications that keep popping up in my head that say it is okay. It is not okay.

I greatly appreciate any encouragement you can provide! Thanks!

Viking- from MPLS, MN
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 02, 2016, 03:57:00 PM
Main reason to quit is for you.

If you need that oral fix, go out and find some fake dip. I used smokey mountain. I could buy it at walmart I also ordered some online as well.

You need to post roll here.

February 17  (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/30053935/29/)

any other help just ask. via PM please I will see it faster
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: tljent79 on November 02, 2016, 04:06:00 PM
Hi Viking I'm in your quit group and on my first day of quitting after 20+ years of Copenhagen/Kodiak. In this afternoon alone, I've had frequent thoughts, or rather adopted instincts, telling myself that I needed to go get a can. I ended up going and getting some fake dip purely to fight off the initial fixation.

This community looks like it offers an outstanding support network, accountability, and structure. If you haven't, I'd recommend reading the welcome threads to see how it goes. If I can help, please don't hesitate. Looking forward to seeing you on the daily roll call.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 04:11:00 PM
Thanks. Hopefully, the roll post showed up.

I'll have to figure out how to use PM. Thanks, really appreciate the help.

I just read the story of the Kerns. Other than size of Mr. Kern, the story could be my own, even from MN of all things. Lots of kids, full of life, until one day... I've thought about that a lot. I don't want that to be me.

Thanks for the reply. I'll be here often. This is truly miserable as I'm sitting here at work and feeling like I need to be doing 100 other things. It's the fog.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: jpetmpls on November 02, 2016, 04:15:00 PM
Dude, check out my name... purple pride! Lots of strong MN quitters here representing the true north. I'll PM you my digits and don't be afraid to reach out. Just remember, keep it simple and only focus on today, or even the next minute only if that's what it takes!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
Good to meet you JPET and thanks for posting! Glad to hear there are a number of MNers willing to help. It's such a weird feeling. One minute you are completely charged up about quitting, the next minute, scrambling to find something to put in your mouth. Just crappy. It'll pass.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: pab1964 on November 02, 2016, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Good to meet you JPET and thanks for posting! Glad to hear there are a number of MNers willing to help. It's such a weird feeling. One minute you are completely charged up about quitting, the next minute, scrambling to find something to put in your mouth. Just crappy. It'll pass.
We are here with you as long as that names on roll! Quit on my friend and remember if quitting were easy none of us would be here! Great bunch of solid quitters already on your side. Get some numbers, they come in handy. There no good to you until you need them but it's even worse to not have some when you do need them. Let's do this
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 05:16:00 PM
Thanks, Pab! Ready to roll. I have probably had the least productive work day since March Madness last year on this day 3, but the way I look at it, this is one of the MOST productive days of my life.

Happy baseball watching tonight and of course, as I'm a baseball coach, baseball is one of my triggers. I'll be okay though. I have all of you. I have my family to support me.

Here's to a good baseball game and being dip free tonight.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: jpetmpls on November 02, 2016, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Good to meet you JPET and thanks for posting! Glad to hear there are a number of MNers willing to help. It's such a weird feeling. One minute you are completely charged up about quitting, the next minute, scrambling to find something to put in your mouth. Just crappy. It'll pass.
I had to leave work on day 1 and day 2 because the withdrawal/anxiety was so severe. It was crazy. I basically slept through the first 2 days. By day 3, I could actually function somewhat. After that, it's all in your head and that's when the power of this site will really kick in. We've all done it and continue to do it. Day 1, day 100 or day 1000... doesn't matter. You have strength in numbers.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Maverick705 on November 02, 2016, 07:39:00 PM
Hey Viking! I'm in your quit group and currently on Day 2. Fellow Minnesotan here as well. Lived in Champlin, Minnesota for 25 years until I joined the Navy three years ago, and now I'm stationed down in Maryland. Damn I miss that state. I'm excited to be a part of this quit group and go through this journey with you guys.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Glad to have you Mav! Thanks for your service. Proud to be a part of the Feb group

Watching the WS hammering sunflower seeds like nobody's business. Day 3 is a bitch. It'll pass Nic free
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: jpetmpls
Quote from: Viking
Good to meet you JPET and thanks for posting! Glad to hear there are a number of MNers willing to help. It's such a weird feeling. One minute you are completely charged up about quitting, the next minute, scrambling to find something to put in your mouth. Just crappy. It'll pass.
I had to leave work on day 1 and day 2 because the withdrawal/anxiety was so severe. It was crazy. I basically slept through the first 2 days. By day 3, I could actually function somewhat. After that, it's all in your head and that's when the power of this site will really kick in. We've all done it and continue to do it. Day 1, day 100 or day 1000... doesn't matter. You have strength in numbers.
Thanks JPET. It really does feel like a haze. Helpful to know there are folks out there like you who have overcome this nasty habit
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Bert75 on November 02, 2016, 10:55:00 PM
Hey Viking! Another fellow MN dude here. You will have a ton of support just need to do your part. Hang in there, better days will be ahead for sure. I quit with you today!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 02, 2016, 11:00:00 PM
Thanks Bro. The Dude abides! Love it!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Bert75 on November 02, 2016, 11:07:00 PM
The Dude Always Abides!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 03, 2016, 06:23:00 AM
Today is day 4 of my quit. It's like a rebirth. Day 4 of the rest of my life.

In the last 2 days, I've had such a difficult time with physical Mental and emotional withdrawal that I've spent more time at KTC and in the fog than I have doing pretty much anything else. Others' stories inspire me. my wife has been very supportive so I'm very thankful for that.

One thing I've noticed that helps is telling people, even people who have known me for some time and have no clue. I think it is helpful because it makes me accountable to myself and it pulls the cat right out of the bag. I work in corporate America so for years I've had to hide the habit and chew in my upper lip at work. No more hiding. Time to face the fact that I'm an addict and whether I'm ashamed or not really doesn't matter.

I can feel myself having to relearn how to deal with situations. For example, I slept 4 hours last night. Normally to get me through a light sleeping day, I'd use dip thinking it would boost my energy. Not today. Not ever again. I posted roll this morning. Time to learn some other way. Not sure what that will be, exercise or what, but it'll be something.

If any of you have suggestions for how to handle the stress of a sleeplessness night and keep alert throughout the day- note that I do not drink coffee - I'm all ears. Thanks and make it a great November 3!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: tljent79 on November 03, 2016, 10:09:00 AM
Viking...we're going to own this. On a side note, I scoured the internet for a Walter Sobchak avatar. Didn't have time to find a good one though so went with default. I feel like kicking the habit is my own personal battle against nihilism.

Mark it 0!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Palpatine on November 03, 2016, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Today is day 4 of my quit. It's like a rebirth. Day 4 of the rest of my life.

In the last 2 days, I've had such a difficult time with physical Mental and emotional withdrawal that I've spent more time at KTC and in the fog than I have doing pretty much anything else. Others' stories inspire me. my wife has been very supportive so I'm very thankful for that.

One thing I've noticed that helps is telling people, even people who have known me for some time and have no clue. I think it is helpful because it makes me accountable to myself and it pulls the cat right out of the bag. I work in corporate America so for years I've had to hide the habit and chew in my upper lip at work. No more hiding. Time to face the fact that I'm an addict and whether I'm ashamed or not really doesn't matter.

I can feel myself having to relearn how to deal with situations. For example, I slept 4 hours last night. Normally to get me through a light sleeping day, I'd use dip thinking it would boost my energy. Not today. Not ever again. I posted roll this morning. Time to learn some other way. Not sure what that will be, exercise or what, but it'll be something.

If any of you have suggestions for how to handle the stress of a sleeplessness night and keep alert throughout the day- note that I do not drink coffee - I'm all ears. Thanks and make it a great November 3!


Lots of MN people here to help you out including myself. Couple of things:

1. You mentioned it below that you are an addict and that is step one. We all are...so train your mind that what you did was not a "habit" because habits are something we form over time and then they can go away. Addiction is always going to be there today, tomorrow, 100, 1,000, 10,000, etc. I'm telling you because I was told the same when I first quit that this isn't a habit but that I'm an addict and will never be cured.

2. To help you get through these first few days/weeks with all of the crap you are going through, drink lots of water...LOTS of water! Every time you think about getting a dip, get up and get some water. Have it be as if you are always constantly peeing all day...better than having that poison in you mouth, right? Your body is cleansing itself and also freaking out because it wants its fix. Come here, go for walks, get up and move around, the sleep thing will eventually come but you just need to get through this first part. The fog is the fog but believe me and the many others on here that it is absolutely the best thing in the world to be free from this poisonous drug and living life.

Just keep coming here each day as many times as you want to read up, chat, talk, etc. just to get through these weeks. Get to know your group and tell them what you are going through. All of you are likely experiencing the same things and it helps when you have the company of others to go through this and how they made the small wins each day/each hour/each walk into the gas station without buying a tin/etc.

Keep it up! You got this and many of us will help you along.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: brettlees on November 03, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: Palpatine
Quote from: Viking
Today is day 4 of my quit. It's like a rebirth. Day 4 of the rest of my life.

In the last 2 days, I've had such a difficult time with physical Mental and emotional withdrawal that I've spent more time at KTC and in the fog than I have doing pretty much anything else. Others' stories inspire me. my wife has been very supportive so I'm very thankful for that.

One thing I've noticed that helps is telling people, even people who have known me for some time and have no clue. I think it is helpful because it makes me accountable to myself and it pulls the cat right out of the bag. I work in corporate America so for years I've had to hide the habit and chew in my upper lip at work. No more hiding. Time to face the fact that I'm an addict and whether I'm ashamed or not really doesn't matter.

I can feel myself having to relearn how to deal with situations. For example, I slept 4 hours last night. Normally to get me through a light sleeping day, I'd use dip thinking it would boost my energy. Not today. Not ever again. I posted roll this morning. Time to learn some other way. Not sure what that will be, exercise or what, but it'll be something.

If any of you have suggestions for how to handle the stress of a sleeplessness night and keep alert throughout the day- note that I do not drink coffee - I'm all ears. Thanks and make it a great November 3!


Lots of MN people here to help you out including myself. Couple of things:

1. You mentioned it below that you are an addict and that is step one. We all are...so train your mind that what you did was not a "habit" because habits are something we form over time and then they can go away. Addiction is always going to be there today, tomorrow, 100, 1,000, 10,000, etc. I'm telling you because I was told the same when I first quit that this isn't a habit but that I'm an addict and will never be cured.

2. To help you get through these first few days/weeks with all of the crap you are going through, drink lots of water...LOTS of water! Every time you think about getting a dip, get up and get some water. Have it be as if you are always constantly peeing all day...better than having that poison in you mouth, right? Your body is cleansing itself and also freaking out because it wants its fix. Come here, go for walks, get up and move around, the sleep thing will eventually come but you just need to get through this first part. The fog is the fog but believe me and the many others on here that it is absolutely the best thing in the world to be free from this poisonous drug and living life.

Just keep coming here each day as many times as you want to read up, chat, talk, etc. just to get through these weeks. Get to know your group and tell them what you are going through. All of you are likely experiencing the same things and it helps when you have the company of others to go through this and how they made the small wins each day/each hour/each walk into the gas station without buying a tin/etc.

Keep it up! You got this and many of us will help you along.
It's great to see you already re-learning life and reflecting here! keep it up! MN_Ben is in my Jan 14 quit group, and a great quitter to link up with. I think he's in chat a lot.

My recommendations:

1. learn all you can about the battle you are in- knowledge center here, and read other quitters' intros. This addiction has lots of nasty tricks but knowing what is going on helps you make it through the ones that come your way.
2. log your quit here- as a record for you later, and to let others know how you're doing and how to help, and as a resource/model for other future quitters when you do it right.
3. build a network for support and accountability, with other quitters here. This is a key piece.

Keep it rolling, loving how you're doing it. When it gets tough, get through minute by minute if needed. The bad stuff always fades. We're all proof of that here.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 03, 2016, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Palpatine
Quote from: Viking
Today is day 4 of my quit. It's like a rebirth. Day 4 of the rest of my life.

In the last 2 days, I've had such a difficult time with physical Mental and emotional withdrawal that I've spent more time at KTC and in the fog than I have doing pretty much anything else. Others' stories inspire me. my wife has been very supportive so I'm very thankful for that.

One thing I've noticed that helps is telling people, even people who have known me for some time and have no clue. I think it is helpful because it makes me accountable to myself and it pulls the cat right out of the bag. I work in corporate America so for years I've had to hide the habit and chew in my upper lip at work. No more hiding. Time to face the fact that I'm an addict and whether I'm ashamed or not really doesn't matter.

I can feel myself having to relearn how to deal with situations. For example, I slept 4 hours last night. Normally to get me through a light sleeping day, I'd use dip thinking it would boost my energy. Not today. Not ever again. I posted roll this morning. Time to learn some other way. Not sure what that will be, exercise or what, but it'll be something.

If any of you have suggestions for how to handle the stress of a sleeplessness night and keep alert throughout the day- note that I do not drink coffee - I'm all ears. Thanks and make it a great November 3!


Lots of MN people here to help you out including myself. Couple of things:

1. You mentioned it below that you are an addict and that is step one. We all are...so train your mind that what you did was not a "habit" because habits are something we form over time and then they can go away. Addiction is always going to be there today, tomorrow, 100, 1,000, 10,000, etc. I'm telling you because I was told the same when I first quit that this isn't a habit but that I'm an addict and will never be cured.

2. To help you get through these first few days/weeks with all of the crap you are going through, drink lots of water...LOTS of water! Every time you think about getting a dip, get up and get some water. Have it be as if you are always constantly peeing all day...better than having that poison in you mouth, right? Your body is cleansing itself and also freaking out because it wants its fix. Come here, go for walks, get up and move around, the sleep thing will eventually come but you just need to get through this first part. The fog is the fog but believe me and the many others on here that it is absolutely the best thing in the world to be free from this poisonous drug and living life.

Just keep coming here each day as many times as you want to read up, chat, talk, etc. just to get through these weeks. Get to know your group and tell them what you are going through. All of you are likely experiencing the same things and it helps when you have the company of others to go through this and how they made the small wins each day/each hour/each walk into the gas station without buying a tin/etc.

Keep it up! You got this and many of us will help you along.
It's great to see you already re-learning life and reflecting here! keep it up! MN_Ben is in my Jan 14 quit group, and a great quitter to link up with. I think he's in chat a lot.

My recommendations:

1. learn all you can about the battle you are in- knowledge center here, and read other quitters' intros. This addiction has lots of nasty tricks but knowing what is going on helps you make it through the ones that come your way.
2. log your quit here- as a record for you later, and to let others know how you're doing and how to help, and as a resource/model for other future quitters when you do it right.
3. build a network for support and accountability, with other quitters here. This is a key piece.

Keep it rolling, loving how you're doing it. When it gets tough, get through minute by minute if needed. The bad stuff always fades. We're all proof of that here.
Emperor Palp and B-Lees, thanks for the advice fellas. It is greatly appreciated and will do my best to follow it.

For anyone out there reading this, about 5 days ago I saw this site and it helped inspire me to quit on my 36th birthday. My ego got in the way of me signing up until day 3 even though I was taking in all of the resources this site has to offer. I was especially inspired by the story of the Kerns, picturing my daughter saying to me, Please don't go daddy! I lost it. NOW it is time. If that's my daughter someday, it won't be because of Skoal.

Before Day 3, even though I was reading the site and taking in the site, I thought, oh, I'm a little pussy, bitch that needs group therapy instead of good ole macho will-power. Just 5 days ago I was a complete fucking idiot. The man puffing his chest out is the man that admits he needs the help and isn't ashamed to admit it. It's the man that truly wants this for his life. It is infinitely harder to kick the can without these brothers and sisters. Because this site is here and full of all of these amazing and supportive people, I don't even feel slightly tempted to buy chew, even though at times I feel like the anxiety is so bad I'm going to pull my hair out. Thank you KTC brothers and sisters. I believe you are saving my life.

I'm proud to admit I'm a part of this site and looking forward to being a part of this family when I can look back at many days of posting roll. I flat out need all of you fellas and ladies, along with my family, as support to help me through. For now, today is Day 4. Let's get through that and worry about Day 5 tomorrow.

I don't care if people think I'm weak. I am. So what. At least I won't die from chewing tobacco and I won't be a slave to the power of chew.

Thanks folks. You have all inspired me. Eyehatecope, Palpatine, JPET, Brettlees, Maverick, TLJent (is this your homework, Larry?), Bokie, PMILS, the Kerns, some guy from Minot named Todd, Pabs, Bert (the Dude Abides). Only been here 24 hours, haven't met any of you, and all of you have helped me get my shit together. Thanks, bros.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: pab1964 on November 03, 2016, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Quote from: brettlees
Quote from: Palpatine
Quote from: Viking
Today is day 4 of my quit. It's like a rebirth. Day 4 of the rest of my life.

In the last 2 days, I've had such a difficult time with physical Mental and emotional withdrawal that I've spent more time at KTC and in the fog than I have doing pretty much anything else. Others' stories inspire me. my wife has been very supportive so I'm very thankful for that.

One thing I've noticed that helps is telling people, even people who have known me for some time and have no clue. I think it is helpful because it makes me accountable to myself and it pulls the cat right out of the bag. I work in corporate America so for years I've had to hide the habit and chew in my upper lip at work. No more hiding. Time to face the fact that I'm an addict and whether I'm ashamed or not really doesn't matter.

I can feel myself having to relearn how to deal with situations. For example, I slept 4 hours last night. Normally to get me through a light sleeping day, I'd use dip thinking it would boost my energy. Not today. Not ever again. I posted roll this morning. Time to learn some other way. Not sure what that will be, exercise or what, but it'll be something.

If any of you have suggestions for how to handle the stress of a sleeplessness night and keep alert throughout the day- note that I do not drink coffee - I'm all ears. Thanks and make it a great November 3!


Lots of MN people here to help you out including myself. Couple of things:

1. You mentioned it below that you are an addict and that is step one. We all are...so train your mind that what you did was not a "habit" because habits are something we form over time and then they can go away. Addiction is always going to be there today, tomorrow, 100, 1,000, 10,000, etc. I'm telling you because I was told the same when I first quit that this isn't a habit but that I'm an addict and will never be cured.

2. To help you get through these first few days/weeks with all of the crap you are going through, drink lots of water...LOTS of water! Every time you think about getting a dip, get up and get some water. Have it be as if you are always constantly peeing all day...better than having that poison in you mouth, right? Your body is cleansing itself and also freaking out because it wants its fix. Come here, go for walks, get up and move around, the sleep thing will eventually come but you just need to get through this first part. The fog is the fog but believe me and the many others on here that it is absolutely the best thing in the world to be free from this poisonous drug and living life.

Just keep coming here each day as many times as you want to read up, chat, talk, etc. just to get through these weeks. Get to know your group and tell them what you are going through. All of you are likely experiencing the same things and it helps when you have the company of others to go through this and how they made the small wins each day/each hour/each walk into the gas station without buying a tin/etc.

Keep it up! You got this and many of us will help you along.
It's great to see you already re-learning life and reflecting here! keep it up! MN_Ben is in my Jan 14 quit group, and a great quitter to link up with. I think he's in chat a lot.

My recommendations:

1. learn all you can about the battle you are in- knowledge center here, and read other quitters' intros. This addiction has lots of nasty tricks but knowing what is going on helps you make it through the ones that come your way.
2. log your quit here- as a record for you later, and to let others know how you're doing and how to help, and as a resource/model for other future quitters when you do it right.
3. build a network for support and accountability, with other quitters here. This is a key piece.

Keep it rolling, loving how you're doing it. When it gets tough, get through minute by minute if needed. The bad stuff always fades. We're all proof of that here.
Emperor Palp and B-Lees, thanks for the advice fellas. It is greatly appreciated and will do my best to follow it.

For anyone out there reading this, about 5 days ago I saw this site and it helped inspire me to quit on my 36th birthday. My ego got in the way of me signing up until day 3 even though I was taking in all of the resources this site has to offer. I was especially inspired by the story of the Kerns, picturing my daughter saying to me, Please don't go daddy! I lost it. NOW it is time. If that's my daughter someday, it won't be because of Skoal.

Before Day 3, even though I was reading the site and taking in the site, I thought, oh, I'm a little pussy, bitch that needs group therapy instead of good ole macho will-power. Just 5 days ago I was a complete fucking idiot. The man puffing his chest out is the man that admits he needs the help and isn't ashamed to admit it. It's the man that truly wants this for his life. It is infinitely harder to kick the can without these brothers and sisters. Because this site is here and full of all of these amazing and supportive people, I don't even feel slightly tempted to buy chew, even though at times I feel like the anxiety is so bad I'm going to pull my hair out. Thank you KTC brothers and sisters. I believe you are saving my life.

I'm proud to admit I'm a part of this site and looking forward to being a part of this family when I can look back at many days of posting roll. I flat out need all of you fellas and ladies, along with my family, as support to help me through. For now, today is Day 4. Let's get through that and worry about Day 5 tomorrow.

I don't care if people think I'm weak. I am. So what. At least I won't die from chewing tobacco and I won't be a slave to the power of chew.

Thanks folks. You have all inspired me. Eyehatecope, Palpatine, JPET, Brettlees, Maverick, TLJent (is this your homework, Larry?), Bokie, PMILS, the Kerns, some guy from Minot named Todd, Pabs, Bert (the Dude Abides). Only been here 24 hours, haven't met any of you, and all of you have helped me get my shit together. Thanks, bros.
Hey my friend I don't call needing help weak, it's a helluva lot smarter than white knuckling alone showing your dumbass self how tough we are and then failing miserably! That's not tough it's stupidity. You're doing a great job, keep the positive attitude. If you don't have numbers yet, get some! Mines available. Quit on!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 04, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Good morning, friends, today is Day 5. I feel great physically. In many ways, mentally too, in other ways not so much. See this quit is so different than others because I'm so motivated to do it for me and I'm not doing it alone. I also have a pledge I make every morning, as a matter of fact, unless the baby is crying, the first thing I've done these last two days is post roll. It really does matter to do it early in the day.

For future quitters, I want to mention a few of the things I have been going through and things that may help.

1. Hot flashes. I have found no cure for this other than to drink water. They suck. They will pass.

2. Anxiety. I have had some incredibly severe bouts with anxiety. Chest getting all tense, choked for breath, the anxiety sucks. A number of things have helped me with this:
- hot chocolate, I know, right? really hot chocolate helps
- some oral fixation, I've been using jerky chew because I like the harsh texture. It really does help temporarily with the anxiety.
- posting on this board or texting with a pal, writing is therapeutic peeps, it's that simple. I feel a hell of a lot better just writing all this shit in my head in this blog

3. Sleeplessness. Benadryl has helped tremendously. I've used it 2 out of 5 nights when I've been real sleepless. I feel a bit groggy in the morning, but that has been going away with a hot shower.

4. Jaw pain- I'm not sure what's causing this one, but I'm not too concerned for the following reasons:
- Many others on this site report jaw pain when quitting
- It feels like a muscle pain, almost like that good sore after a good lift
- Something tells me this is really a healing from all the dip over all the years.

5. Anger. This one really sucks. All I can say is this one takes a ton of self-awareness and in my opinion, will be essential to the success of my quit because I need my wife's support. She sure the hell isn't going to be supportive very long if I'm an asshole to her.

I'm trying to use my extra energy to be more self-aware of when I am angry or when I have less patience than I had when I was chewing. I think this will really help. I read some pretty awful stories on this site about wives who have had to deal with some asshole situations. I get that not all of that can be averted, but I do think that a little self-awareness about our body does when we get angry can go along way.

For example, I don't know about everyone else, but when I get angry, I get an adrenaline rush. That is a recognizable feeling. So is the tightening of the chest, squinting, turning or shaking of the head, gritting teeth, I have to imagine all of us have some physical manifestation of anger that appears before we get out of control angry. I really think it is crucial to think about what that feeling is so we recognize it and can stop ourselves. It will keep your wife or husband in your corner. It will prevent you from running back to the can to deal with the anger. It will prevent you from creating a bullshit justification to go back to the can, like "My wife is such a bitch, I'll show her, I'm not going to quit."

None of us will be perfect with anger, but my hope is that maybe this information will help someone become self-aware, control their temper, and take it easy on loved ones. I brought this up because it happened to me this morning. I started feeling anger this morning toward my wife as she was copping a bit of a tude today (for good reason, it's Friday, she has a stressful job, a husband quitting chew, and 4 busy ass kids), and I was able to avert a significant blow out fight because I recognized my anger. It was tough as hell to keep myself at bay. What did it was that I recognized the adrenaline rush. I love my wife, she's amazing, and I need her in my corner to help me. I think I could have taken a real step this morning in the wrong direction, pushing her away. Were either of us perfect this am, no, but we got through a stressful morning with minor wounds.

Quit on, everyone. I hope new quitters and those who are thinking about quitting will be able to use this information in a productive way to help their quit.

Special shout out to all the bros who have been texting with me and helping me through. You guys have made this so much easier on me. Thanks Palp and JPet.

- Viking, SKOL, not Skoal
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: rdad on November 04, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: 216v2 on November 04, 2016, 01:13:00 PM
On day 5. 40 year user. Got my mind right for staying off forever. Hope it is not too late after 40 years of use.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 04, 2016, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: rdad
Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.
Thanks, Rdad. Glad to have you in our corner. It's exciting and scary all at once to be rid of chew.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 04, 2016, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: 216v2
On day 5. 40 year user. Got my mind right for staying off forever. Hope it is not too late after 40 years of use.
216v2, happy to help. You might want to connect with Palpatine, rDad, EyeHateCope, JPET, Pabs, or one of the other vets to help you with how to work the site.

I want to see your name, 216v2, posting roll everyday right with mine. Mine will be there. I will never catch Drome, but I always want to be the exact same number of days behind that crazy SOB that can't spell.

February 2017 will quit together. That's the only way it will work.

Send me a PM if you want to get my digits.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 04, 2016, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Quote from: rdad
Just got caught up on your intro Viking. You really seem to get this and staying active on here will really help. Keep it up. Good work so far! We are all here for you.
Thanks, Rdad. Glad to have you in our corner. It's exciting and scary all at once to be rid of chew.
Glad to read what you are putting in your intro Viking. Proud to see you actually want this and you're sharing with others.

216v2 if you need help please ask one of us.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 05, 2016, 06:47:00 AM
Welcome to Day 6 of the quit!

Every day gets better and better. I feel less pain. I feel more freedom. All the salt in seeds and jerky has my mouth super dry. Going to have to really up the h2o intake today. Have a headache this am from dehydration.

In quits past (last real attempt about 8 years ago and for 1.5 years), the weekend would have absolutely terrified me. I've posted roll today. I'm not worried. I don't want to chew. I have February Furbies who are going through the same shit that posted. I have bad ass quitters with me. Having to be accountable to all these people really makes a huge difference.

Last night, I Had a couple of beers. I would not recommend doing that for most. I definitely felt a little weaker resolve, but as I don't drink to get drunk hardly ever, resisting the urge was not too bad. I was with my wife, I made sure I stayed close to the site, and I have a few digits in case.

Had trouble sleeping last night, but the increase in energy from not chewing is helping me deal with lack of sleep. I did not want to take a sleep aid last night though as it is a weekend and there should be times I can nap unlike the work week. Looking forward to the time when full night sleep shows up minus sleep aid.

I've gone this far without the fake stuff but given that I'll have more autonomy this weekend, I'm thinking I'll go get some and have it just in case. No way I'll get the real stuff. I'm done with it. I don't ever want to go into the fog again.

Here's to a fun and productive weekend without Skoal!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: worktowin on November 05, 2016, 07:03:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Welcome to Day 6 of the quit!

Every day gets better and better. I feel less pain. I feel more freedom. All the salt in seeds and jerky has my mouth super dry. Going to have to really up the h2o intake today. Have a headache this am from dehydration.

In quits past (last real attempt about 8 years ago and for 1.5 years), the weekend would have absolutely terrified me. I've posted roll today. I'm not worried. I don't want to chew. I have February Furbies who are going through the same shit that posted. I have bad ass quitters with me. Having to be accountable to all these people really makes a huge difference.

Last night, I Had a couple of beers. I would not recommend doing that for most. I definitely felt a little weaker resolve, but as I don't drink to get drunk hardly ever, resisting the urge was not too bad. I was with my wife, I made sure I stayed close to the site, and I have a few digits in case.

Had trouble sleeping last night, but the increase in energy from not chewing is helping me deal with lack of sleep. I did not want to take a sleep aid last night though as it is a weekend and there should be times I can nap unlike the work week. Looking forward to the time when full night sleep shows up minus sleep aid.

I've gone this far without the fake stuff but given that I'll have more autonomy this weekend, I'm thinking I'll go get some and have it just in case. No way I'll get the real stuff. I'm done with it. I don't ever want to go into the fog again.

Here's to a fun and productive weekend without Skoal!
Viking you are doing this the right way. Logging your experience here will remind you later, when life is great, of the lie that nicotine really is. Well done sir.

I hope you are sharing all of this misery with your 17 year old too, I really liked reading how you are sharing with everyone. Very cool and accountable.

Freedom is ahead. It is worth it. One day at a time!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 05, 2016, 08:08:00 AM
I don't want to sound like a fake chew enabler but use it if you need it. Especially right now during the beginning of your quit. Nothing wrong with it from my eyes. That's what it's there for. You are doing a great job. Proud to quit with you.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Thumblewort on November 05, 2016, 09:15:00 AM
Quote from: eyehatecope
I don't want to sound like a fake chew enabler but use it if you need it. Especially right now during the beginning of your quit. Nothing wrong with it from my eyes. That's what it's there for. You are doing a great job. Proud to quit with you.
Chew on barbed wire or fiberglass or tin foil if it helps you stay quit, all 3 are better for you than Skoal. Nice intro Viking, too bad my Lions will spoil your day tomorrow!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Backwoods901 on November 05, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
Besides the Vikings thing since my eagles beat you. Stay to the course you are becoming more and more a BAQ around here and I enjoy your intro. If you ever need anything hit me up my digits are always available
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 07, 2016, 10:34:00 AM
Day 7 and Day 8- did not get a chance to post what was on my mind yesterday and it was a big mistake. I had the worst day for anxiety. My mood was worse. I didn't fight with any of my family really, but I could tell I was a sarcastic asshole. Was really struggling to cope with anxiety. Tried a number of things, nap, doing chores, relaxing and watching football, playing with the little kids, using the fake stuff. Not much helped. I wasn't at all interested in going back to the can to help me cope. I had posted roll. I wish I would have posted something like this though, as this is what has been helping so much. Getting all this shit out of my head.

Today I feel a lot better, probably because it's a work day, probably because I'm not really in the fog and feel like I'll actually be productive at work this week, probably because the oral fixation is starting to subside some, probably because I feel significantly better from not having nicotine in my body.

It's interesting the timeline of nicotine for me, which went something like:

Age 18-22, this is fun, I get a buzz, not really a big deal that I chew because I can quit any time, I'm young and healthy and athletic, I'm invincible, numbers show there is almost no way of getting too sick from this

Age 22-25, I'm starting to date a lot more now, I really need to hide this from girls because they think it is disgusting, but, it'll be okay, I'll just use when I'm not around them, I'll quit when I get a serious woman, I start the habit of altering my life to accommodate chew. I am a slave. My freedom has left me and I don't even know it.

Age 25-29, Now I've got a serious woman, I said I'd quit, but now I'm going to hide it. Then she busts me, accepts it, and hates it. This happens with several relationships. I'm starting to get worried that I'll never quit because I need it every time I'm stressed out, I'm short of breath when I exercise, and scoring hot chicks isn't enough to get me to quit, what will get me to quit? Ah, I'll quit when I'm married. I'm still a slave.

Age 29-35, I get married, i have kids but I still don't quit. I'll hide it from the kids though, because I'm ashamed of my habit. My wife hates it, but at least I'm keeping it away from the kids. Then I get lazy and start doing it around the kids. You talk about quitting to the kids, how you should have never started, how ashamed and embarrassed you are, yet you keep going to pick it up at the c-store. You finally realize now, that when you were 18-22, this became a part of your identity and it has been your identity, but you failed to admit it. Still slaving away to chew.

Age 36- I'm 8 days into my quit. Taking it one day at a time. My eyes are open to the above, I'm admitting this, that I'm an addict, that I was a slave, and that I wish I would have found KTC years ago. But it's not too late.

I quit today. I quit with all my KTC brothers and sisters today.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 07, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
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Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 07, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
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Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 07, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Day 7 and Day 8- did not get a chance to post yesterday and it was a big mistake. I had the worst day for anxiety. My mood was worse. I didn't fight with any of my family really, but I could tell I was a sarcastic asshole. Was really struggling to cope with anxiety. Tried a number of things, nap, doing chores, relaxing and watching football, playing with the little kids, using the fake stuff. Not much helped. I wasn't at all interested in going back to the can to help me cope. I had posted roll.

Today I feel a lot better, probably because it's a work day, probably because I'm not really in the fog and feel like I'll actually be productive at work this week, probably because the oral fixation is starting to subside some, probably because I feel significantly better from not having nicotine in my body.

It's interesting the timeline of nicotine for me, which went something like:

Age 18-22, this is fun, I get a buzz, not really a big deal that I chew because I can quit any time, I'm young and healthy and athletic, I'm invincible, numbers show there is almost no way of getting too sick from this

Age 22-25, I'm starting to date a lot more now, I really need to hide this from girls because they think it is disgusting, but, it'll be okay, I'll just use when I'm not around them, I'll quit when I get a serious woman, I start the habit of altering my life to accommodate chew. I am a slave. My freedom has left me and I don't even know it.

Age 25-29, Now I've got a serious woman, I said I'd quit, but now I'm going to hide it. Then she busts me, accepts it, and hates it. This happens with several relationships. I'm starting to get worried that I'll never quit because I need it every time I'm stressed out, I'm short of breath when I exercise, and scoring hot chicks isn't enough to get me to quit, what will get me to quit? Ah, I'll quit when I'm married. I'm still a slave.

Age 29-35, I get married, i have kids but I still don't quit. I'll hide it from the kids though, because I'm ashamed of my habit. My wife hates it, but at least I'm keeping it away from the kids. Then I get lazy and start doing it around the kids. You talk about quitting to the kids, how you should have never started, how ashamed and embarrassed you are, yet you keep going to pick it up at the c-store. You finally realize now, that when you were 18-22, this became a part of your identity and it has been your identity, but you failed to admit it. Still slaving away to chew.

Age 36- I'm 8 days into my quit. Taking it one day at a time. My eyes are open to the above, I'm admitting this, that I'm an addict, that I was a slave, and that I wish I would have found KTC years ago. But it's not too late.

I quit today. I quit with all my KTC brothers and sisters today.
Good stuff Viking! I appreciate you sharing this journey. You don't realize but, you are helping me and I thank you for that. One day at a time every damn day. Eyehatecope
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 08, 2016, 11:33:00 AM
Day 9 of my quit. So far, Day 9 rocks. I feel great. I have extra energy and less anxiety. Wife has noticed the extra libido over the last week and a half, probably because I'm more interested in her than stuffing my face full of mud. I'm finally being productive at work after a week in the fog.

Physically, this is getting easier by the day and I'm super happy about that. No more headaches, far more energy, less oral fixation, more interest in eating healthy and exercising. More time to do things as I don't have to change my life around to make sure I have my dip in for an hour. No begging for the clock to hit 6p so I can put in a lower instead of an upper.

Mentally, it is an up and down roller coaster, largely based on not having any real clue how to deal with stress. Baby was up crying at midnight at 3:00 a.m. last night and I found myself getting super angry at her. A baby. For crying. Unreal. Talk about feeling like a complete tool shed. I had no business being pissed, but yet I was. Of course I didn't do anything about it other than sing her back to sleep and feed her a bottle as I beat the living crap out of myself in my own head.

Definitely would have put in some mud to deal with it in the past. Not last night/this morning. I posted roll yesterday and today. I'm committed to learning how to deal with stress in other ways.

Here's to looking forward to the day where my mind and body figure out how to deal with stress.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: KingNothing on November 08, 2016, 11:50:00 AM
The roller coaster will continue for a bit Viking. I'm glad to see that you're already getting your head around the idea that stuffing your face won't make the baby stop crying or anything else that is driving you crazy at the time. It takes some time before your brain can start making some headway in rewiring itself from the years of poison you were feeding it.

That being said, your mindset is perfect. Absorb all the things you missed while your addiction ran your life. Soak it up and learn to deal with things as they come and not by anesthetizing yourself with dip. The struggle is very real at first, but man it feels good when you really start to get a handle on the "new you." The ups and downs will come and go, but the nicotine is out of your system now so the pendulum won't swing quite as wildly from side to side.

Be as addicted to quitting as you were to feeding your nic addiction and you'll do just fine.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 09, 2016, 10:13:00 AM
Day 10 of the quit. I think about chew less and less, except for last night when I was watching the election coverage and decided to set sail with captain morgan. Did I ever even think about caving? No. I posted roll with TLJent, Maverick, Bokie, all you crazy ass BAQs like JPET, Palp, Pabs, KingNothing, PMILS, EHC, etc. I did have some of that fake mud though.

This will be a fight. Based on my thoughts and feelings last night, I am not even close to ready to be in a situation where I am drinking and someone has chew on them. Drink at home where my wife can support me and it's a pain in the ass to go get.

Quit on!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: KingNothing on November 09, 2016, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Day 10 of the quit. I think about chew less and less, except for last night when I was watching the election coverage and decided to set sail with captain morgan. Did I ever even think about caving? No. I posted roll with TLJent, Maverick, Bokie, all you crazy ass BAQs like JPET, Palp, Pabs, KingNothing, PMILS, EHC, etc. I did have some of that fake mud though.

This will be a fight. Based on my thoughts and feelings last night, I am not even close to ready to be in a situation where I am drinking and someone has chew on them. Drink at home where my wife can support me and it's a pain in the ass to go get.

Quit on!
Congrats on double digits Viking! I'm sure you've heard it already around here, but alcohol has destroyed more quits than anything else (save for leaving the site and going at it on one's own). I like your plan of drinking at home with your wife's support, but maybe make sure she's got your keys too just in case you feel that urge to go grab some.

Keep documenting these moments. You will look back on these posts after 100, 200, etc. and realize the grip that nic had on you. It gets better and that grip will loosen considerably, but for now just keep cruising, you're doing great.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 11, 2016, 11:40:00 AM
I've made it 12 days without chewing. I'm pumped about it. I just texted my step-son and step-daughter and they congratulated me, which made me feel good because both are teens and I barely get anything out of them other then huh, yeah, cool, or oh.

It is amazing, because in the grander scheme of things, a dozen days doesn't seem like much. In quitting chewing tobacco days, it is an eternity. Some major hurdles have been cleared. There are still hurdles in the way, like I still get headaches from time to time, I still get the urge when I have a drink or two, if I'm bored to tears I really want to dip.

Good thing I won't. I posted roll with my Fellowship of the Quit.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: KingNothing on November 11, 2016, 11:51:00 AM
Good work. Keep pushing and keep piling them up ODAAT. You will be amazed before too long how much better your life is without nicotine leading you around. Today is all that matters.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: pab1964 on November 11, 2016, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: KingNothing
Good work. Keep pushing and keep piling them up ODAAT. You will be amazed before too long how much better your life is without nicotine leading you around. Today is all that matters.
Great job! Every day without nicotine is huge! Damn proud to be quit with you!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 11, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
Congrats on day 12!

A dozen days is a damn good job.

My advice, try not to drink until around day 50. Don't shoot me for that. It's honestly a fact that has been shared on here in multiple ways.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 11, 2016, 03:29:00 PM
Quote from: eyehatecope
Congrats on day 12!

A dozen days is a damn good job.

My advice, try not to drink until around day 50. Don't shoot me for that. It's honestly a fact that has been shared on here in multiple ways.
EHC, I believe it and would not recommend it. It's good advice. I've drank probably four days thus far out of the 12 (i.e., one drink kind of thing) and it's gone okay because I'm with the wife and I'm at home. No way I'm going out with buddies and drinking yet.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: tljent79 on November 11, 2016, 04:28:00 PM
You commented on boredom....I can relate to that one big time. It's when I'm doing the least that I think about dipping the most. I wouldn't even say it's a craving it's just where my addict mind is so conditioned to go. It's crazy! I'm in the quit to win with ya brother! Kick some weekend ass!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on November 12, 2016, 07:33:00 AM
I hate to type in caps but, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT TO ANYONE THAT YOU HAVE DIGITS OVER THE WEEKEND! The first few weekends are definitely tough.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: KingNothing on November 13, 2016, 12:40:00 AM
Quote from: eyehatecope
I hate to type in caps but, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT TO ANYONE THAT YOU HAVE DIGITS OVER THE WEEKEND! The first few weekends are definitely tough.
And for that matter at any time after this weekend as well. Digits have saved my quit and I'm not afraid to admit it. It's weird at first, but it works, it really does.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on November 29, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Today is Day 30. I am so excited to have made it this far. I remember reading the posts from the January 17 group at this point when I started and it seemed like it would take forever to get to 30 days.

Here are some things I've learned thus far:

1. My quit is not unique. The methods of this site work. It is clear the vets have been through all of this. There is no good reason not to listen to them.
2. The people in my quit group and the vets who support it are what makes quitting manageable and even sometimes fun.
3. If you aren't quitting for yourself, you will fail because you will find a reason to start again (e.g. I'm so pissed at my wife, eff her, I'm going to chew to piss her off!...so stupid, but real).
4. Having phone numbers really matters for the tough times.
5. The fog is awful, but what comes after is far better.
6. My "libido" has been through the roof from the added energy.
7. The oral fixation goes away.
8. Concentrating really hard on quitting by being close to the site, PMing, texting, etc. really helped me stay motivated and inspired.
9. This is a daily struggle, and the acronyms WUPP, ODAAT, EDD mean everything in the world to me.
10. This is life or death. Beyond that, this is freedom from the slavery of chewing.
11. I was, am, and always will be an addict to chewing tobacco so I must post roll every day for the rest of my life to ensure I never chew again.

Thanks so much to all of you who have been so helpful. EyeHateCope, Palpatine, Pab, JPET, PMils, Bert75, MNEngineer, KingNothing, Syndrome, Walter White, TLJent, Mav, Law, JeffW, Mav, Bokie, Brass, the list really goes on and on of BAQs both within February 17 and beyond that have helped me in some way.

Thank you, Kill the Can. You are saving my life, every damn day, one day at a time.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: AppleJack on November 29, 2016, 11:50:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Today is Day 30. I am so excited to have made it this far. I remember reading the posts from the January 17 group at this point when I started and it seemed like it would take forever to get to 30 days.

Here are some things I've learned thus far:

1. My quit is not unique. The methods of this site work. It is clear the vets have been through all of this. There is no good reason not to listen to them.
2. The people in my quit group and the vets who support it are what makes quitting manageable and even sometimes fun.
3. If you aren't quitting for yourself, you will fail because you will find a reason to start again (e.g. I'm so pissed at my wife, eff her, I'm going to chew to piss her off!...so stupid, but real).
4. Having phone numbers really matters for the tough times.
5. The fog is awful, but what comes after is far better.
6. My "libido" has been through the roof from the added energy.
7. The oral fixation goes away.
8. Concentrating really hard on quitting by being close to the site, PMing, texting, etc. really helped me stay motivated and inspired.
9. This is a daily struggle, and the acronyms WUPP, ODAAT, EDD mean everything in the world to me.
10. This is life or death. Beyond that, this is freedom from the slavery of chewing.
11. I was, am, and always will be an addict to chewing tobacco so I must post roll every day for the rest of my life to ensure I never chew again.

Thanks so much to all of you who have been so helpful. EyeHateCope, Palpatine, Pab, JPET, PMils, Bert75, MNEngineer, KingNothing, Syndrome, Walter White, TLJent, Mav, Law, JeffW, Mav, Bokie, Brass, the list really goes on and on of BAQs both within February 17 and beyond that have helped me in some way.

Thank you, Kill the Can. You are saving my life, every damn day, one day at a time.

Owning it, bro.

Just freakin' owning it!


There will come a time... sooner, later, whenever....doesn't really matter, when the work you're putting in now will equal a freedom I can't quite describe.

Not even kidding.

Some might think I'm wrong for saying this... oh well... being Quit becomes effortless.
If you own that decision... own it with your entire being... you win.

You, m'man... are getting there. Keep rockin' it!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: rdad on November 29, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: Viking
Today is Day 30. I am so excited to have made it this far. I remember reading the posts from the January 17 group at this point when I started and it seemed like it would take forever to get to 30 days.

Here are some things I've learned thus far:

1. My quit is not unique. The methods of this site work. It is clear the vets have been through all of this. There is no good reason not to listen to them.
2. The people in my quit group and the vets who support it are what makes quitting manageable and even sometimes fun.
3. If you aren't quitting for yourself, you will fail because you will find a reason to start again (e.g. I'm so pissed at my wife, eff her, I'm going to chew to piss her off!...so stupid, but real).
4. Having phone numbers really matters for the tough times.
5. The fog is awful, but what comes after is far better.
6. My "libido" has been through the roof from the added energy.
7. The oral fixation goes away.
8. Concentrating really hard on quitting by being close to the site, PMing, texting, etc. really helped me stay motivated and inspired.
9. This is a daily struggle, and the acronyms WUPP, ODAAT, EDD mean everything in the world to me.
10. This is life or death. Beyond that, this is freedom from the slavery of chewing.
11. I was, am, and always will be an addict to chewing tobacco so I must post roll every day for the rest of my life to ensure I never chew again.

Thanks so much to all of you who have been so helpful. EyeHateCope, Palpatine, Pab, JPET, PMils, Bert75, MNEngineer, KingNothing, Syndrome, Walter White, TLJent, Mav, Law, JeffW, Mav, Bokie, Brass, the list really goes on and on of BAQs both within February 17 and beyond that have helped me in some way.

Thank you, Kill the Can. You are saving my life, every damn day, one day at a time.

Owning it, bro.

Just freakin' owning it!


There will come a time... sooner, later, whenever....doesn't really matter, when the work you're putting in now will equal a freedom I can't quite describe.

Not even kidding.

Some might think I'm wrong for saying this... oh well... being Quit becomes effortless.
If you own that decision... own it with your entire being... you win.

You, m'man... are getting there. Keep rockin' it!

Attitude is everything in this quitting business and you Sir , have a great attitude.
X2 what AJ said! You are killing this! Well done.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on December 09, 2016, 10:47:00 AM
So today is my 40th quit day and I've been writing and texting about this dip dream I had. Seriously just a dream, didn't shit my quit away, but it was so real it sure felt like it. Felt like I let all you down, my family down, and most importantly myself. Kept telling myself it wasn't real. Didn't matter, logic and reason didn't work so much. I felt guilty. I felt ashamed.

I had a victory today in my eyes. I stayed quit. I didn't run back to the can. I posted roll early. I texted a bunch of people. I wrote here. I feel much much better.

You've all seen my posts. Some days I am positive, other days I have piss and vinegar, other days I feel like a little bitch. ill be what I need to be except soft on you when you don't drink the kool-aid. Days like today are the exact reason I spend so much time here. I had the tools this morning to get through the shit without caving.

This is why I ride some of you to post early. It means the whole damn world to me to see you stay quit. It scares the piss outta me that you post late and don't drink the kool-aid and I worry that you will have the tools you need to succeed when this happens to you because I promise you it will.

It is life and death. Post early and every day. Stay very involved so that you develop the tools you need to succeed when the going gets tough.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on December 09, 2016, 11:19:00 AM
Big accomplishment Viking! Proud of you! I'm not sure if you shared this in your group as well as others but, if you haven't copy and paste this in different groups. Job well done!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: pab1964 on December 09, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
Wow! I'm definitely liking the smell of quit in here! As my brother Rawls says alot. Very mature in your early quit. Keep moving forward, stay ahead of the bitch she still has alot of tricks up here sleeve!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Thumblewort on December 10, 2016, 10:12:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
So today is my 40th quit day and I've been writing and texting about this dip dream I had. Seriously just a dream, didn't shit my quit away, but it was so real it sure felt like it. Felt like I let all you down, my family down, and most importantly myself. Kept telling myself it wasn't real. Didn't matter, logic and reason didn't work so much. I felt guilty. I felt ashamed.

I had a victory today in my eyes. I stayed quit. I didn't run back to the can. I posted roll early. I texted a bunch of people. I wrote here. I feel much much better.

You've all seen my posts. Some days I am positive, other days I have piss and vinegar, other days I feel like a little bitch. ill be what I need to be except soft on you when you don't drink the kool-aid. Days like today are the exact reason I spend so much time here. I had the tools this morning to get through the shit without caving.

This is why I ride some of you to post early. It means the whole damn world to me to see you stay quit. It scares the piss outta me that you post late and don't drink the kool-aid and I worry that you will have the tools you need to succeed when this happens to you because I promise you it will.

It is life and death. Post early and every day. Stay very involved so that you develop the tools you need to succeed when the going gets tough.
NFC North quitters rule!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on December 14, 2016, 11:51:00 AM
Day 45 today and this morning I was doing some work and I all of a sudden got hit with some very intense cravings. Sucked ass, really. The cool thing was I was not worried that I was going to cave because I posted roll and I feel like I have the tools necessary to let this pass, those tools being quit brothers/sisters. So I texted about 8 people or so, knowing that only a handful would be able to respond because of work, family, meetings, whatever, that's fine, that's why I texted 8 people because I knew I might hit 25%.

That's why it helps so much to have phone numbers. Seriously, just getting those texts back helped calm my nerves knowing that others were out there fighting the same battle with me, others were out there that had gone through this, and others were out there who beat the cravings.

Drome suggested that I read some HOF speeches. Great suggestion and it worked. I read a handful of them, because like all of you, I've got shit to get done at work, but just taking that 10 minutes to read those few really calmed me down.

I am down right 1000% committed to the quit, I have all of you to help, and she is still fucking with me. Unfortunately, there is just no way to avoid the lies and deceit. That's why we have to have the tools KTC teaches us when this shit happens.

Quit on!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: worktowin on December 14, 2016, 09:03:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Day 45 today and this morning I was doing some work and I all of a sudden got hit with some very intense cravings. Sucked ass, really. The cool thing was I was not worried that I was going to cave because I posted roll and I feel like I have the tools necessary to let this pass, those tools being quit brothers/sisters. So I texted about 8 people or so, knowing that only a handful would be able to respond because of work, family, meetings, whatever, that's fine, that's why I texted 8 people because I knew I might hit 25%.

That's why it helps so much to have phone numbers. Seriously, just getting those texts back helped calm my nerves knowing that others were out there fighting the same battle with me, others were out there that had gone through this, and others were out there who beat the cravings.

Drome suggested that I read some HOF speeches. Great suggestion and it worked. I read a handful of them, because like all of you, I've got shit to get done at work, but just taking that 10 minutes to read those few really calmed me down.

I am down right 1000% committed to the quit, I have all of you to help, and she is still fucking with me. Unfortunately, there is just no way to avoid the lies and deceit. That's why we have to have the tools KTC teaches us when this shit happens.

Quit on!
So... on day 45 how does it feel to be a winner? How many days did you lose a daily battle again, Viking? 6,570? Today you met the same opponent head on and you fucking owned it! So... how does that feel?

Pretty damn sweet I'm guessing.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on December 14, 2016, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Viking
Day 45 today and this morning I was doing some work and I all of a sudden got hit with some very intense cravings. Sucked ass, really. The cool thing was I was not worried that I was going to cave because I posted roll and I feel like I have the tools necessary to let this pass, those tools being quit brothers/sisters. So I texted about 8 people or so, knowing that only a handful would be able to respond because of work, family, meetings, whatever, that's fine, that's why I texted 8 people because I knew I might hit 25%.

That's why it helps so much to have phone numbers. Seriously, just getting those texts back helped calm my nerves knowing that others were out there fighting the same battle with me, others were out there that had gone through this, and others were out there who beat the cravings.

Drome suggested that I read some HOF speeches. Great suggestion and it worked. I read a handful of them, because like all of you, I've got shit to get done at work, but just taking that 10 minutes to read those few really calmed me down.

I am down right 1000% committed to the quit, I have all of you to help, and she is still fucking with me. Unfortunately, there is just no way to avoid the lies and deceit. That's why we have to have the tools KTC teaches us when this shit happens.

Quit on!
So... on day 45 how does it feel to be a winner? How many days did you lose a daily battle again, Viking? 6,570? Today you met the same opponent head on and you fucking owned it! So... how does that feel?

Pretty damn sweet I'm guessing.
That sounds about right. Some 6,000 days with some stoppages but never quit.

It feels awesome. Honestly there is nothing better than the freedom from the addiction. It has improved my outlook on every aspect of my life. I will always be an addict but I'll never be a slave again
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: FLLipOut on December 14, 2016, 11:06:00 PM
I am really enjoying your journal, Viking. Cave dreams are really unsettling, aren't they? In a way they are a useful tool though because they provide a glimpse into just how horrible you will feel if you ever really did cave.

Stay strong and keep up this really fantastic quit you've got going.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Jeff W on December 15, 2016, 05:04:00 AM
Keep it up man! ODAAT! Proud to quit with you and lucky to have connected with you. My quit thanks you!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on December 27, 2016, 06:30:00 AM
Day 58

I just want to say thank you all for continuing to support me. I dont know how I'll die, but I know it won't be from chew. I also know how I'll live out the rest of my days, whether it is through today or 60 years from now, it will be without tobacco and it's because of so many of you helping me along! my family and I are and always will be eternally grateful to KTC.

That's all. Thanks and quit on!!!!!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: JGlav on December 27, 2016, 07:22:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Day 58

I just want to say thank you all for continuing to support me. I dont know how I'll die, but I know it won't be from chew. I also know how I'll live out the rest of my days, whether it is through today or 60 years from now, it will be without tobacco and it's because of so many of you helping me along! my family and I are and always will be eternally grateful to KTC.

That's all. Thanks and quit on!!!!!
Keep posting those +1's brother. Hell of a quit working there.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on January 13, 2017, 09:01:00 PM
Today is my 75th day without nicotine. 3/4 to HOF. One of the hardest days yet. I had some tough craves. I came To the site and to the chat and just unloaded. My stepson has been a little bitch lately, been lying, probably drinking, cursing in front of his mom and me. Has had me pissed off and stressed out. Wanted to ring his neck. Thankfully, had the opportunity to trade some stories with folks, get some advice, reminisce about our teen years. Calmed me down a lot. Thanks to all who helped.

This place can be so much more than about tobacco if you let it...

Note to myself when I come back to read this. If you are not still posting roll, you are a fucking idiot, even if you are still quit and have not caved. You are an addict. That's not going to change. You went 75 days without it. 72 days with none in your system. Here you are still dealing with cravings and triggers.

Always Remember Day 1.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: worktowin on January 14, 2017, 07:50:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Today is my 75th day without nicotine. 3/4 to HOF. One of the hardest days yet. I had some tough craves. I came To the site and to the chat and just unloaded. My stepson has been a little bitch lately, been lying, probably drinking, cursing in front of his mom and me. Has had me pissed off and stressed out. Wanted to ring his neck. Thankfully, had the opportunity to trade some stories with folks, get some advice, reminisce about our teen years. Calmed me down a lot. Thanks to all who helped.

This place can be so much more than about tobacco if you let it...

Note to myself when I come back to read this. If you are not still posting roll, you are a fucking idiot, even if you are still quit and have not caved. You are an addict. That's not going to change. You went 75 days without it. 72 days with none in your system. Here you are still dealing with cravings and triggers.

Always Remember Day 1.
Some of the best friends, hardest workers, smartest people I know are from this site. You nailed it.

By the way, 75 is a notoriously difficult time. Some good days are ahead.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Steakbomb18 on January 14, 2017, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: worktowin
Quote from: Viking
Today is my 75th day without nicotine. 3/4 to HOF. One of the hardest days yet. I had some tough craves. I came To the site and to the chat and just unloaded. My stepson has been a little bitch lately, been lying, probably drinking, cursing in front of his mom and me. Has had me pissed off and stressed out. Wanted to ring his neck. Thankfully, had the opportunity to trade some stories with folks, get some advice, reminisce about our teen years. Calmed me down a lot. Thanks to all who helped.

This place can be so much more than about tobacco if you let it...

Note to myself when I come back to read this. If you are not still posting roll, you are a fucking idiot, even if you are still quit and have not caved. You are an addict. That's not going to change. You went 75 days without it. 72 days with none in your system. Here you are still dealing with cravings and triggers.

Always Remember Day 1.
Some of the best friends, hardest workers, smartest people I know are from this site. You nailed it.

By the way, 75 is a notoriously difficult time. Some good days are ahead.
Viking,...you get it brother. Some people think they get it, but they don't really get it.
Quote
If you are not still posting roll, you are a fucking idiot, even if you are still quit and have not caved. You are an addict. That's not going to change.
This.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: FISHFLORIDA on January 15, 2017, 12:41:00 AM
Congrats on 3/4! Awesome. Proud to be quit with you.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: jpetmpls on February 07, 2017, 09:48:00 AM
Congrats on 100!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: harvestgirl on February 07, 2017, 10:08:00 AM
Happy HOF Day!

But, like you said before, always remember Day 1.

Proud to be quit with you bro.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: DonkeyMN on February 07, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Congratulations on the 100 mark Viking!

I enjoy reading your intro - whether you know it or not you are a beacon of light for new bastards like me to follow.

MN strong!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: MN_Engineer on February 07, 2017, 11:03:00 AM
Viking brother!!! Congrats on the HOF!! This is just the beginning; keep slaying that nic bitch ODAAT.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: ChickDip on February 07, 2017, 12:37:00 PM
Quote from: MNxEngineer314
Viking brother!!! Congrats on the HOF!! This is just the beginning; keep slaying that nic bitch ODAAT.
CONGRATS ON 100 DAYS VIKING!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Law1358 on February 07, 2017, 12:39:00 PM
Viking,
Ive already texted you and commented in our group my congratulations to you on HOF! You have been a great inspiration to many, and a great inspiration to me personally! Your HOF Speech may be the best ive ever read and it is a testament to how committed you are to your quit. I am honored to call you a freind and to quit with you EDD from here on out...Congratulations Brother
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Bert75 on February 07, 2017, 03:18:00 PM
Nicely done Viking! Stay strong. I quit with you again today buddy!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: JGlav on February 07, 2017, 03:44:00 PM
Nailed it. Congrats man.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: suthern_gntlman on February 14, 2017, 10:02:00 PM
Man... I just read your HOF speech... wow... just WOW!

That was some of the beat info put together in one place I've seen on this site.

Great job and keep up the good work!

I liked it so well, I've added it to my signature line...
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on February 15, 2017, 11:08:00 AM
Quote from: suthern_gntlman
Man... I just read your HOF speech... wow... just WOW!

That was some of the beat info put together in one place I've seen on this site.

Great job and keep up the good work!

I liked it so well, I've added it to my signature line...
Thanks, Suthern! I had a lot of fun writing it and reflecting on my first 100. Looking forward to many more days with you here and my other quit brothers and sisters!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on March 23, 2017, 11:25:00 AM
Day 144- posted in the February group and transferred here in case it helps someone STAY AT THE SITE PAST THE HOF and saves his/her quit

This morning, I had breakfast with a partner with whom I work. It was a stressful conversation, discussion about going forward, about some rifts I've had with a co-worker, attempts I want to make to reach out to improve that relationship. Really intense stuff for me to be discussing at 7:00 a.m.

I got back to my desk and wanted to dip badly to "help" me deal with the anxiety and stress of this conversation, the action plan, and taking the first step. No way I'm doing it and it's because of the tools I've learned here, the people relying on me at home and here.

Coming up on 5 months quit. Quitting is hard. There are days and moments where I want to give up and give in, but I know they pass and I know I can't give up on quitting as long as I'm posting roll. Still not cured.

POSTING ROLL SAVED MY ASS TODAY

These struggles that I continue to go through, and I assume others are too even though they might not talk about them, are why I get so pissed at you assholes who skip roll or post late. Do you not give a shit about anyone but yourself? Are you better than me because you can skip roll and post when you want to post? If so, 'Finger'
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: pab1964 on March 23, 2017, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: Viking
Day 144- posted in the February group and transferred here in case it helps someone STAY AT THE SITE PAST THE HOF and saves his/her quit

This morning, I had breakfast with a partner with whom I work. It was a stressful conversation, discussion about going forward, about some rifts I've had with a co-worker, attempts I want to make to reach out to improve that relationship. Really intense stuff for me to be discussing at 7:00 a.m.

I got back to my desk and wanted to dip badly to "help" me deal with the anxiety and stress of this conversation, the action plan, and taking the first step. No way I'm doing it and it's because of the tools I've learned here, the people relying on me at home and here.

Coming up on 5 months quit. Quitting is hard. There are days and moments where I want to give up and give in, but I know they pass and I know I can't give up on quitting as long as I'm posting roll. Still not cured.

POSTING ROLL SAVED MY ASS TODAY

These struggles that I continue to go through, and I assume others are too even though they might not talk about them, are why I get so pissed at you assholes who skip roll or post late. Do you not give a shit about anyone but yourself? Are you better than me because you can skip roll and post when you want to post? If so, 'Finger'
Damn good stuff! We all learn other ways of handling stress. Very good example of posting roll Early EDD Odaat! Learn to hate the nic and how to use your tools provided here and you cannot fail but you can and almost certainly will if you're not here Edd! Damn good quit wood from this Viking! Thanks!
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: Viking on September 06, 2017, 10:45:00 AM
Day 311, it's been a long time since I posted in here, but I thought I would journal some victories and scares.

In the 200s, I was coaching baseball all summer. I've played or coached ball pretty much the entire time I chewed, so I was nervous about all the triggers. I was completely shocked at how all the tools I learned here helped me to stay quit. Posting early. Texting my promise every day to a number of quitters. I backed off the site, a lot to do with life, a little to do with taking a break, but I've come back and refreshed.

A few weeks ago, my wife really pissed me off and it was one of those she's pissed at the world, but not at me, but yet she thinks it's okay to take it out on me, kind of pissed off nights. The thought of chewing actually popped into my mind, just to spite her. 250+ days nicotine free and I my addict brain thought about caving in.

Thankfully, I had HG, Lentz, Law, Gas, DJF, and others chatting with me and keeping my mind off of it, making me laugh, etc. That's the brotherhood piece of this. I can't imagine KTC without these folks backing me, backing new quitters, etc.

The people on this site are so powerful. I can't thank all of you enough for helping me through the good and bad times.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: eyehatecope on September 07, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: Viking
Day 311, it's been a long time since I posted in here, but I thought I would journal some victories and scares.

In the 200s, I was coaching baseball all summer. I've played or coached ball pretty much the entire time I chewed, so I was nervous about all the triggers. I was completely shocked at how all the tools I learned here helped me to stay quit. Posting early. Texting my promise every day to a number of quitters. I backed off the site, a lot to do with life, a little to do with taking a break, but I've come back and refreshed.

A few weeks ago, my wife really pissed me off and it was one of those she's pissed at the world, but not at me, but yet she thinks it's okay to take it out on me, kind of pissed off nights. The thought of chewing actually popped into my mind, just to spite her. 250+ days nicotine free and I my addict brain thought about caving in.

Thankfully, I had HG, Lentz, Law, Gas, DJF, and others chatting with me and keeping my mind off of it, making me laugh, etc. That's the brotherhood piece of this. I can't imagine KTC without these folks backing me, backing new quitters, etc.

The people on this site are so powerful. I can't thank all of you enough for helping me through the good and bad times.
Mine seems to stay on nag/B mode lol. Good post. I'm reminded each and every single day why this place, and the tools are wonderful to have. My best friend recently started back dipping. Of course he was a pussy and hid it from me until last week. I got all over his ass and then I let it go. I/we can't make people quit. All we can do is be there for them with encouragement.
Title: Re: New to Site 10/31/16 Quit Date
Post by: ChickDip on March 14, 2018, 01:38:00 PM
Happy 1/2 dangle day Viking!
Nice 500!