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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Tool shed on February 24, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
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Hello all. I joined just today but am on day 13 of my quit. I used smokeless non-stop for over 25 years until late 2011. One Sunday following a duck hunting weekend I just quit. I used the "quit for life" program paid for by my employer. I actually worked even though it was very geared toward smokers. In fact it worked until the following July of 2012 when I relapsed and now I find myself here where I think folks will relate better to the unique smokeless quitting challenge.
But I am getting ahead of myself. I started chewing late in high school in the late 70's. The habit continued into college where many of the football players chewed. After that it was rugby, once again with many chewers. I didn't marry until my late 30's so there was never much pressure to stop. Then having young kids that didn't know what I was doing, there was once again no reason to quit. I also owned my own business so I could do as I pleased. Do you see the pattern? There was never any reason to quit at leat in my mind. Then my kids got older and started asking questions, my wife got sick of the habit, I got sick of the habit and the cost, and I sold my company. I was no longer the boss and had to spend hours in airports. I actually bought bottle of soda at airport prices and had 2 drinks so that I had a spitter! I spent more time in long executive meetings trying to hide my chewing from others. It all added up to my quit in 2011. My kids were proud of me, my wife proud of me, my colleagues proud of me and I was moving up in the company ranks where a vp shouldnt use tobacco! Then the relapse. The guilt, the hiding, and the shame. I simply cannot do this anymore.
I learned much last time and will make use of it this time. I learned that I feared quitting more than quitting itself. I realized that the romantic and nostalgic feelings about chewing were ridiculous. Like my chew was some long lost love. The mind is powerful and nicotine has great power.
I can tell from reviewing posts all day that this group is different than quit for life. You all understand the power that smokeless can wield. I am newly committed after finding you all. I feel empowered and have yet to spend more than a day here! Thank you all.
Toolshed, or just Shed for short.
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Okay Tool Box...let me be the first to welcome you aboard. This is indeed the fucking secret sauce of getting quit my friend. The depth of information you will find here exists no where else. And its all for free. First, we're all addicts here. Its not a habit, you're an addict. Sounds dirty for a VP but I'm sure you've done worst things in the executive bathroom than call yourself an addict before. Second, quit is quit. No more. No mas if you're from below the boarder. So throw any stash or nicotine supplements away immediately. Flush'em. Take a pic. Folks here seem to love looking at a stuff going down a toilet for some reason. Not sure why. Third, you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of here. We have all walked this path. We've lied, ditched out on family time, bought cherry Dr. Peppers just for the bottle (who drinks that shit?). We can all relate and we want to relate. We're in this together. I do have a few things to suggest:
1. Hit the 'Welcome Center' in the upper left corner. Behind that warm inviting salmon colored link you'll find a guide to the site. Get acquainted.
2. One of those bullets is about roll call. Roll call is us putting down our word that we quit today. That we will not use nicotine in any form for 24 hours. Its not a perspective of quit for a lifetime here. We're quitting for today. My simple mind can't quite comprehend forever but I sure as shit can understand 24 hours. We do this once a day. Early as we can to set the table right for the day. No excuses. Can't get to a computer? Text a quit brother or sister. Don't got numbers? Frickin' get some.
How to post roll: How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Where to post roll: May 2013 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7782)
3. Read. Now I know a man of your success knows that you got to be prepared. You don't just walk into the board room with you fly unbuttoned or something. Prepare yourself for the battle here and read all you can. This is the blueprint to quit here.
4. Get involved. Anyone here will help you. I will help you. Shit...my mother will help you if you need it but you got to get involved. Pay it forward by pulling people along. Lean on and be leaned on folks around you.
5. Reach out. If things get tough, and they will, you got to let someone know. Get into chat. Get into the intros. Read. Message someone. Text someone. There is no shame in asking for help. We are all addicts.
Welcome. Fight. Plan. Protect.
-Soul
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Welcome Shed. Souliman has given you some great advice. It sounds like you temporarily stopped using before (notice I didn't say quit), for your company, wife and / or kids. This time I think you are quitting for Toolshed!! Take it day by day by day by day.
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Welcome Shed. Souliman has given you some great advice. It sounds like you temporarily stopped using before (notice I didn't say quit), for your company, wife and / or kids. This time I think you are quitting for Toolshed!! Take it day by day by day by day.
Shed we understand all to well where you come from. A disgusting addiction that has led us to do disgusting things. Keep reading, post roll every day and keep your word! I can't quit forever and neither can any of us but we all can quit 1 day at a time. Pm me if you need anything.
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Welcome Shed. This method works. Believe in it. Drink deep.
As it has been said, post roll early - that takes caving off the table for the remainder of the day. Get involved and get to know everyone in the May group and everyone else from other groups. Eventually you will get to know these "strangers" on a deep and personal level and will not want to let them down. These ladies (yes, there are a few) and quitter cats know shit about me that even my wife and parents don't know. They have my back, and they are quitters. They understand.
We are all still addicts here, fighting the battle one day at a time. Help is just a PM away if you need it (and we all do at some point).
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Im right there with you brother. After 10 years of slavery to that disgusting shit im declaring my freedom. We have a lot to live for, and can do this one day at a time.
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Welcome, Garage. You got some great advice from some bad ass quitters, so I really have nothing to add. Take comfort in the fact that you are not alone, my friend. We have all been in your shoes. We are on call for you 24/7/365. Use us!
You got this, Car Port. Never again for any reason!!!!
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Welcome Lean To!! :D Diesel was on to something there. Couldn't resist! Congrats on your quit! You sound like a bad ass and just need to grab those balls and suck it up!! Quit With you today!!
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Thanks for the words all and I get the play on names, been called it all so no worries and actually made me chuckle just a bit.
Today is a good day and have my new brothers to thank. Traveling for work this week and can't wait to do a flight without trying to sneak in a chew in the plane.
Shed
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Thanks for the words all and I get the play on names, been called it all so no worries and actually made me chuckle just a bit.
Today is a good day and have my new brothers to thank. Traveling for work this week and can't wait to do a flight without trying to sneak in a chew in the plane.
Shed
You got this shit, Fall Out Shelter!!!!!
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Thanks for the input, Shed. I have read yours and many others and am releived to know that I am not the only one that had such a F'd up view on life from the bottom of a cope can. The words romance and nostalgic are pretty strange things to say about dippen, but I sure loved my can of cope. We had many "special" times and I was always thinking about the next one. How to recreate that first dip of the day pleasure, and it was near impossible to duplicate but still tried over and over throughout the day. It was easy and hard all at the same time to kick her to the curb. I am on Day 7 and havn't seemed to be a problem but I have been avoiding my chew buddies. That won't last much longer so I got many more hurdles to get over. I feel good about myself. The burden is lifted. Stay the quit.
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Thanks for the words all and I get the play on names, been called it all so no worries and actually made me chuckle just a bit.Â
Today is a good day and have my new brothers to thank. Traveling for work this week and can't wait to do a flight without trying to sneak in a chew in the plane.
Shed
You got this shit, Fall Out Shelter!!!!!
We are here for you Hanger!! (you said you were at the airport??? Plus no Maize and Blue guy is going to get the last word)
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Thanks for the input, Shed. I have read yours and many others and am releived to know that I am not the only one that had such a F'd up view on life from the bottom of a cope can. The words romance and nostalgic are pretty strange things to say about dippen, but I sure loved my can of cope. We had many "special" times and I was always thinking about the next one. How to recreate that first dip of the day pleasure, and it was near impossible to duplicate but still tried over and over throughout the day. It was easy and hard all at the same time to kick her to the curb. I am on Day 7 and havn't seemed to be a problem but I have been avoiding my chew buddies. That won't last much longer so I got many more hurdles to get over. I feel good about myself. The burden is lifted. Stay the quit.
Bull Shit! There were never any "special" times with cope. There was never a romantic or nostalgic feeling related to that shit, only dependency! In a month or so your eyes will be open to reality. Just don't get caught up in any feelings for that poison! UST and every form of nicotine can eat me, I hate it and what it did to me. Soon you will feel the same way if you continue to quit 1 day at a time!
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Thanks for the input, Shed. I have read yours and many others and am releived to know that I am not the only one that had such a F'd up view on life from the bottom of a cope can. The words romance and nostalgic are pretty strange things to say about dippen, but I sure loved my can of cope. We had many "special" times and I was always thinking about the next one. How to recreate that first dip of the day pleasure, and it was near impossible to duplicate but still tried over and over throughout the day. It was easy and hard all at the same time to kick her to the curb. I am on Day 7 and havn't seemed to be a problem but I have been avoiding my chew buddies. That won't last much longer so I got many more hurdles to get over. I feel good about myself. The burden is lifted. Stay the quit.
Bull Shit! There were never any "special" times with cope. There was never a romantic or nostalgic feeling related to that shit, only dependency! In a month or so your eyes will be open to reality. Just don't get caught up in any feelings for that poison! UST and every form of nicotine can eat me, I hate it and what it did to me. Soon you will feel the same way if you continue to quit 1 day at a time!
Amen, brother.
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Funny how it changes the way it hits you, the power both of the mind and the nic bitch. Here I am starting day 16, feeling good and out of nowhere, night sweats, headache, and the weirdest dreams. What a shitty night sleep. I am winning this so I have no worries, I know a dip wouldn't help me anyway. But it feels good to share the info, even if no one reads it. I am learning some things about myself the last few days and am enjoying that.
Now off to roll and to face day 16.
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Funny how it changes the way it hits you, the power both of the mind and the nic bitch. Here I am starting day 16, feeling good and out of nowhere, night sweats, headache, and the weirdest dreams. What a shitty night sleep. I am winning this so I have no worries, I know a dip wouldn't help me anyway. But it feels good to share the info, even if no one reads it. I am learning some things about myself the last few days and am enjoying that.
Now off to roll and to face day 16.
Rock it!
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It will get better, I still have dip dreams too but they are fewer and fewer.
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
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I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Been there!! Done that!!
The craves will come and go Shed, just keep doing what your doing. Acknowledge the crave, dismiss it, maybe even get a little pissed at it, then go on with your day. Don't look now, but you are winning!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hows it feel??
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It feels fucking good man, fucking good!
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It feels fucking good man, fucking good!
You are right on track Shanty!! She is hitting you when you sleep because during your awake hours you are kicking her ass!! It is all normal and a sign that you are winning! 17-0. Keep on quitter!!! The QUIT is strong with this one!!!! 'jedisith'
J
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
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You know what is kicking my ass this morning? Not the crave for a dip, but that Diesel character. I am reading his posts from the airport on my way home and laughing out loud. I appreciate the support and sense of humor, I need that some days.
The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
Somewhere I wrote the story of pouring out a full jug of wiper fluid at 75mph so I could use it as a sputter. Sleeve soaked, side of car soaked, cars behind me super pissed, and spitting into that thing tasted nasty as hell and the lip on it was sharp as glass. Hey, what was I supposed to do? Not dip? What a fucking moron.
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
Somewhere I wrote the story of pouring out a full jug of wiper fluid at 75mph so I could use it as a sputter. Sleeve soaked, side of car soaked, cars behind me super pissed, and spitting into that thing tasted nasty as hell and the lip on it was sharp as glass. Hey, what was I supposed to do? Not dip? What a fucking moron.
It's a good thing we don't do that shit anymore right?!? Stanky ass spit bottles are a thing of the past in my life!
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
Hey Kubiak, that means a great deal to me, thanks. I would never let a football team get in the way of a good quit, hell, many of best friends are Bear fans and I go really easy on them, just like they did to me in the 80's when they Pack couldn't hardly score against the Bears, let alone win.
You got that right about rugby, way too much dip in that sport in the Midwest and the sport is growing here at the same time so I fear many young men will fall into the same trap as me and have to fight the same battle. That sucks.
I have played rugby since the early 80's and retired for all but old boys matches in 02. I finally finally figured if I could win the Midwest, go to and win nationals, win at rugger fest in aspen in over 45's division, I could quit this nic bitch that has haunted me for so long. Thanks for your support.
Shed
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
Somewhere I wrote the story of pouring out a full jug of wiper fluid at 75mph so I could use it as a sputter. Sleeve soaked, side of car soaked, cars behind me super pissed, and spitting into that thing tasted nasty as hell and the lip on it was sharp as glass. Hey, what was I supposed to do? Not dip? What a fucking moron.
It's a good thing we don't do that shit anymore right?!? Stanky ass spit bottles are a thing of the past in my life!
Thanks for discussing this stuff. I'm 68 days quit and did not make the link between big eating and craving. Now I do. I experienced that craving Friday but did not get it till I read your posts on the subject just now. Just saying......
iquitchewing
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
Somewhere I wrote the story of pouring out a full jug of wiper fluid at 75mph so I could use it as a sputter. Sleeve soaked, side of car soaked, cars behind me super pissed, and spitting into that thing tasted nasty as hell and the lip on it was sharp as glass. Hey, what was I supposed to do? Not dip? What a fucking moron.
It's a good thing we don't do that shit anymore right?!? Stanky ass spit bottles are a thing of the past in my life!
Thanks for discussing this stuff. I'm 68 days quit and did not make the link between big eating and craving. Now I do. I experienced that craving Friday but did not get it till I read your posts on the subject just now. Just saying......
iquitchewing
Thank you guys for reminding me that I am not the only one....
It helps to know that others have done the same things I have. All this time I thought I was a special butterfly, and it turns out there are others just like me!
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The craves still remain significant on day 17, but I am happy to report they are fewer and much shorter than just a week ago. I am feeling better each day and followed some great advice I read here. I am eating smaller and lighter meals which reduces the crave afterward. I thought today of something I don't miss and was wondering if anyone else did this. I used to eat something even though I was not hungry, just to have a dip afterward! How sick was that?
Thanks all for the support, it is crazy that I gain strength in my quit from a bunch of guys I don't even know!
Shed
Look here 3 lock box. I used to do that shit too. Id be driving around, not hungry at all, pop into a gas station, grab a bag of chips or candy bar, scarf it down and then throw in a dip. Why???? What the fuck was wrong with me??? Who thinks like that????? So dumb.
You're not alone pal. Take some comfort in that.
Never again for any reason.
I used to do that shit too. My before dip treat was usually a Moon Pie and an Arizona Green Tea. Weird... lol
After my first week of quitting I have began to really look back and notice that I had a shit ton of "WTF" moments. The moments that really get me are ones like the times when I'd reach for the can to find it nearly empty. Here I am licking the inside of a dip can... FUCKING LICKING IT LIKE I WANTED TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH IT! All the while some poor dude at the red light next to me has to watch me do this... where the hell was my shame?
Wow. I've done so many stupid things for dip. One that comes to mind, throw it in the washing machine with some clothes. After half the wash realize the mistake. Pull it out and take a dip to see if it's ok. How stupid is that? Cant detergent kill you. Holy krap.
I used to buy soda, gatorade or water just to pour it out and use it as a spitter. Even took an empty sandwich bag and spit into it on my way home once. Fucked up. The worst was using a 2 month old, left in a hot car, 99 percent full spitter that allowed me to taste the old bacteria laden spit everytime I put my lips to it to spit. Blaaaa.
Somewhere I wrote the story of pouring out a full jug of wiper fluid at 75mph so I could use it as a sputter. Sleeve soaked, side of car soaked, cars behind me super pissed, and spitting into that thing tasted nasty as hell and the lip on it was sharp as glass. Hey, what was I supposed to do? Not dip? What a fucking moron.
It's a good thing we don't do that shit anymore right?!? Stanky ass spit bottles are a thing of the past in my life!
Thanks for discussing this stuff. I'm 68 days quit and did not make the link between big eating and craving. Now I do. I experienced that craving Friday but did not get it till I read your posts on the subject just now. Just saying......
iquitchewing
Thank you guys for reminding me that I am not the only one....
It helps to know that others have done the same things I have. All this time I thought I was a special butterfly, and it turns out there are others just like me!
knew a guy in highschool that would spit in his cleat on the way to away games. When we got there he'd just dump it out then put it on, like no big deal.
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
Hey Kubiak, that means a great deal to me, thanks. I would never let a football team get in the way of a good quit, hell, many of best friends are Bear fans and I go really easy on them, just like they did to me in the 80's when they Pack couldn't hardly score against the Bears, let alone win.
You got that right about rugby, way too much dip in that sport in the Midwest and the sport is growing here at the same time so I fear many young men will fall into the same trap as me and have to fight the same battle. That sucks.
I have played rugby since the early 80's and retired for all but old boys matches in 02. I finally finally figured if I could win the Midwest, go to and win nationals, win at rugger fest in aspen in over 45's division, I could quit this nic bitch that has haunted me for so long. Thanks for your support.
Shed
You sir are not only a badass for taking on this pathetic addiction, but for your rugby resume as well. I am only 37 and have yet to take advantage of the old boys competition, but this year I started coaching rugby with my 4th grade stepson and I'm hoping to get more involved with the game again.
As for the sport and its addictions, I feel that if the American game evolves from being a fringe sport full of badasses to being more mainstream, hopefully the attitudes will also evolve. As I played a higher level of rugby, I learned that the sport becomes exponentially more beautiful as you add phases to the play, that by avoiding the "crash, crash, crash" midwest style embraced by ex-american football players, and by teaching to not only get the ball out to the backs but then support them, then preparing for the 3rd phase of that next pass after the breakdown... it takes a higher level of player to intelligently play this game properly, and hopefully appeal to more than those just looking for the good parties. Of course, that may have left me out, but I digress.
Baseball is still suffering with its addictions, but it's a boring sport. Rugby shouldn't have these excuses. In fact, with education of the physical, neurological and cardiovascular side effects, hopefully some day it will be so frowned upon that it just goes away.
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
Hey Kubiak, that means a great deal to me, thanks. I would never let a football team get in the way of a good quit, hell, many of best friends are Bear fans and I go really easy on them, just like they did to me in the 80's when they Pack couldn't hardly score against the Bears, let alone win.
You got that right about rugby, way too much dip in that sport in the Midwest and the sport is growing here at the same time so I fear many young men will fall into the same trap as me and have to fight the same battle. That sucks.
I have played rugby since the early 80's and retired for all but old boys matches in 02. I finally finally figured if I could win the Midwest, go to and win nationals, win at rugger fest in aspen in over 45's division, I could quit this nic bitch that has haunted me for so long. Thanks for your support.
Shed
You sir are not only a badass for taking on this pathetic addiction, but for your rugby resume as well. I am only 37 and have yet to take advantage of the old boys competition, but this year I started coaching rugby with my 4th grade stepson and I'm hoping to get more involved with the game again.
As for the sport and its addictions, I feel that if the American game evolves from being a fringe sport full of badasses to being more mainstream, hopefully the attitudes will also evolve. As I played a higher level of rugby, I learned that the sport becomes exponentially more beautiful as you add phases to the play, that by avoiding the "crash, crash, crash" midwest style embraced by ex-american football players, and by teaching to not only get the ball out to the backs but then support them, then preparing for the 3rd phase of that next pass after the breakdown... it takes a higher level of player to intelligently play this game properly, and hopefully appeal to more than those just looking for the good parties. Of course, that may have left me out, but I digress.
Baseball is still suffering with its addictions, but it's a boring sport. Rugby shouldn't have these excuses. In fact, with education of the physical, neurological and cardiovascular side effects, hopefully some day it will be so frowned upon that it just goes away.
Thanks For the kind words Kubiak. I love the game of rugby and miss being a part of it, but with young kids, too many weekends away, 6 broken noses (including one a week before my wedding), and rugby party hangovers lasting longer and longer, it was time to hang up the boots. I should have hung up the Copenhagen at the same time, but you know hindsight. I view the rugby successes i achieved completely team accomplishments, much like quitting the nic bitch, we all need help. I also came to the realization that it has become a young mans game. You are right that it was all crash, crash, crash, tight ball, mauling, a forwards game that was not really viewer friendly. The game is now all about fast, which I can say was never my strong suit. Rucking, multiple phases, a thing of beauty when played well.
So here I am 3 weeks in and I have some thoughts for newbies and old boys alike:
1. Check your ego at the door, we all need help and we have brothers here offering to help. Don't go it alone, we all know that didn't work the first time or the tenth time or we wouldn't be here.
2. Get mad, get angry, hate that nic bitch that controlled you.
3. Don't just think about the bitch when you crave, think about how you beat it in between craves. Celebrate success.
4. QLF
5. Post roll, promise, commit, repeat.
6. Help others and pay forward the support you received from others to those that need it now
7. Strap in dicks, this one's gonna hurt. But it is all worth it.
8. One day at a time, like the story of the old bull and young bull on the hill looking down at a heard of cows. The young one says "let's run down and f*^k one of those cows." The old bull replies, "no, let's walk down and f*^k them all."
I am proud to be quit with all of you today and I will make the same promise tomorrow.
Shed
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Travelled through a blizzard today and two airports interlaced with some very difficult exchanges with a coworker. Been jonesin but made my promise and intend to keep it to myself, my family, my friends and my supports here. Amazing that in past unsuccessful quits I would have caved no doubt, bu today I am too damn mad to cave to the bitch. I will take tomorrow when it comes, today my quit is strong.
Shed
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Travelled through a blizzard today and two airports interlaced with some very difficult exchanges with a coworker. Been jonesin but made my promise and intend to keep it to myself, my family, my friends and my supports here. Amazing that in past unsuccessful quits I would have caved no doubt, bu today I am too damn mad to cave to the bitch. I will take tomorrow when it comes, today my quit is strong.
Shed
Great job, Portable On Deman Storage. I know today was a mother fucker but making it through days like today is where your confidence will come from and the foundation of your quit will be layed.
Might not hit you for a few days or even a week but you will eventually sit back and think..."Som bitch. If I made it through that fucking mess, I can make it through anything"
Just keep jumping GOD DAMMIT!!! Every time a hurdle gets thrown in front of you, Jump right the fuck over it. Eventually the hurdles will get shorted and shorter and you'll be able to clear them with ease, if you even notice them at all.
Keep fucking shit up! I get off on it. I'm a voyeur quitter. I like to watch...
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Travelled through a blizzard today and two airports interlaced with some very difficult exchanges with a coworker. Been jonesin but made my promise and intend to keep it to myself, my family, my friends and my supports here. Amazing that in past unsuccessful quits I would have caved no doubt, bu today I am too damn mad to cave to the bitch. I will take tomorrow when it comes, today my quit is strong.
Shed
Great job, Portable On Deman Storage. I know today was a mother fucker but making it through days like today is where your confidence will come from and the foundation of your quit will be layed.
Might not hit you for a few days or even a week but you will eventually sit back and think..."Som bitch. If I made it through that fucking mess, I can make it through anything"
Just keep jumping GOD DAMMIT!!! Every time a hurdle gets thrown in front of you, Jump right the fuck over it. Eventually the hurdles will get shorted and shorter and you'll be able to clear them with ease, if you even notice them at all.
Keep fucking shit up! I get off on it. I'm a voyeur quitter. I like to watch...
I don't care what anybody says, Diesel is the fuckin' man, you all hear me? This is a dude that will support you and make you laugh your ass off through the pain. I am strong, horny, but strong.
I am proud to quit with all all.
Toolshed
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
Hey Kubiak, that means a great deal to me, thanks. I would never let a football team get in the way of a good quit, hell, many of best friends are Bear fans and I go really easy on them, just like they did to me in the 80's when they Pack couldn't hardly score against the Bears, let alone win.
You got that right about rugby, way too much dip in that sport in the Midwest and the sport is growing here at the same time so I fear many young men will fall into the same trap as me and have to fight the same battle. That sucks.
I have played rugby since the early 80's and retired for all but old boys matches in 02. I finally finally figured if I could win the Midwest, go to and win nationals, win at rugger fest in aspen in over 45's division, I could quit this nic bitch that has haunted me for so long. Thanks for your support.
Shed
You sir are not only a badass for taking on this pathetic addiction, but for your rugby resume as well. I am only 37 and have yet to take advantage of the old boys competition, but this year I started coaching rugby with my 4th grade stepson and I'm hoping to get more involved with the game again.
As for the sport and its addictions, I feel that if the American game evolves from being a fringe sport full of badasses to being more mainstream, hopefully the attitudes will also evolve. As I played a higher level of rugby, I learned that the sport becomes exponentially more beautiful as you add phases to the play, that by avoiding the "crash, crash, crash" midwest style embraced by ex-american football players, and by teaching to not only get the ball out to the backs but then support them, then preparing for the 3rd phase of that next pass after the breakdown... it takes a higher level of player to intelligently play this game properly, and hopefully appeal to more than those just looking for the good parties. Of course, that may have left me out, but I digress.
Baseball is still suffering with its addictions, but it's a boring sport. Rugby shouldn't have these excuses. In fact, with education of the physical, neurological and cardiovascular side effects, hopefully some day it will be so frowned upon that it just goes away.
Thanks For the kind words Kubiak. I love the game of rugby and miss being a part of it, but with young kids, too many weekends away, 6 broken noses (including one a week before my wedding), and rugby party hangovers lasting longer and longer, it was time to hang up the boots. I should have hung up the Copenhagen at the same time, but you know hindsight. I view the rugby successes i achieved completely team accomplishments, much like quitting the nic bitch, we all need help. I also came to the realization that it has become a young mans game. You are right that it was all crash, crash, crash, tight ball, mauling, a forwards game that was not really viewer friendly. The game is now all about fast, which I can say was never my strong suit. Rucking, multiple phases, a thing of beauty when played well.
So here I am 3 weeks in and I have some thoughts for newbies and old boys alike:
1. Check your ego at the door, we all need help and we have brothers here offering to help. Don't go it alone, we all know that didn't work the first time or the tenth time or we wouldn't be here.
2. Get mad, get angry, hate that nic bitch that controlled you.
3. Don't just think about the bitch when you crave, think about how you beat it in between craves. Celebrate success.
4. QLF
5. Post roll, promise, commit, repeat.
6. Help others and pay forward the support you received from others to those that need it now
7. Strap in dicks, this one's gonna hurt. But it is all worth it.
8. One day at a time, like the story of the old bull and young bull on the hill looking down at a heard of cows. The young one says "let's run down and f*^k one of those cows." The old bull replies, "no, let's walk down and f*^k them all."
I am proud to be quit with all of you today and I will make the same promise tomorrow.
Shed
good to see more ruggers on here
index.php?showtopic=4573 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4573)
any chance you guys are coming to st louis ruggerfest?
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Tool shed, I used to question your integrity with all the comments you make about the Packers, then today I see your avatar is Wisconsin Rugby. I take back most of the things I was thinking. Fellow rugger here, and since I know the amount of chew taking place in the sport in the midwest, I'll quit with you.
Kubiak - Purdue Rugby and Bears fan
Hey Kubiak, that means a great deal to me, thanks. I would never let a football team get in the way of a good quit, hell, many of best friends are Bear fans and I go really easy on them, just like they did to me in the 80's when they Pack couldn't hardly score against the Bears, let alone win.
You got that right about rugby, way too much dip in that sport in the Midwest and the sport is growing here at the same time so I fear many young men will fall into the same trap as me and have to fight the same battle. That sucks.
I have played rugby since the early 80's and retired for all but old boys matches in 02. I finally finally figured if I could win the Midwest, go to and win nationals, win at rugger fest in aspen in over 45's division, I could quit this nic bitch that has haunted me for so long. Thanks for your support.
Shed
You sir are not only a badass for taking on this pathetic addiction, but for your rugby resume as well. I am only 37 and have yet to take advantage of the old boys competition, but this year I started coaching rugby with my 4th grade stepson and I'm hoping to get more involved with the game again.
As for the sport and its addictions, I feel that if the American game evolves from being a fringe sport full of badasses to being more mainstream, hopefully the attitudes will also evolve. As I played a higher level of rugby, I learned that the sport becomes exponentially more beautiful as you add phases to the play, that by avoiding the "crash, crash, crash" midwest style embraced by ex-american football players, and by teaching to not only get the ball out to the backs but then support them, then preparing for the 3rd phase of that next pass after the breakdown... it takes a higher level of player to intelligently play this game properly, and hopefully appeal to more than those just looking for the good parties. Of course, that may have left me out, but I digress.
Baseball is still suffering with its addictions, but it's a boring sport. Rugby shouldn't have these excuses. In fact, with education of the physical, neurological and cardiovascular side effects, hopefully some day it will be so frowned upon that it just goes away.
Thanks For the kind words Kubiak. I love the game of rugby and miss being a part of it, but with young kids, too many weekends away, 6 broken noses (including one a week before my wedding), and rugby party hangovers lasting longer and longer, it was time to hang up the boots. I should have hung up the Copenhagen at the same time, but you know hindsight. I view the rugby successes i achieved completely team accomplishments, much like quitting the nic bitch, we all need help. I also came to the realization that it has become a young mans game. You are right that it was all crash, crash, crash, tight ball, mauling, a forwards game that was not really viewer friendly. The game is now all about fast, which I can say was never my strong suit. Rucking, multiple phases, a thing of beauty when played well.
So here I am 3 weeks in and I have some thoughts for newbies and old boys alike:
1. Check your ego at the door, we all need help and we have brothers here offering to help. Don't go it alone, we all know that didn't work the first time or the tenth time or we wouldn't be here.
2. Get mad, get angry, hate that nic bitch that controlled you.
3. Don't just think about the bitch when you crave, think about how you beat it in between craves. Celebrate success.
4. QLF
5. Post roll, promise, commit, repeat.
6. Help others and pay forward the support you received from others to those that need it now
7. Strap in dicks, this one's gonna hurt. But it is all worth it.
8. One day at a time, like the story of the old bull and young bull on the hill looking down at a heard of cows. The young one says "let's run down and f*^k one of those cows." The old bull replies, "no, let's walk down and f*^k them all."
I am proud to be quit with all of you today and I will make the same promise tomorrow.
Shed
good to see more ruggers on here
index.php?showtopic=4573 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4573)
any chance you guys are coming to st louis ruggerfest?
I've heard this is a great tournament but I'll have to pass until the kids are in high school. Great find on that thread, I was feeling lonely over there. Maybe we could relocate and stop sabotaging Hammer House's intro.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
Love Love Love the Update! I will quit with you any damn day! "I need you and you need me, and together we can be nic free! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
Love Love Love the Update! I will quit with you any damn day! "I need you and you need me, and together we can be nic free! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
Shed, I knew your quit was still solid. Enjoy the vacation, get your ass on roll while your gone. I enjoy your posts and have missed them the last week or so. You need anything give me a shout, xxx-xxx-xxxx (edited by wastepanel-send as a pm next time).
Ryan
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
Love Love Love the Update! I will quit with you any damn day! "I need you and you need me, and together we can be nic free! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
Shed, I knew your quit was still solid. Enjoy the vacation, get your ass on roll while your gone. I enjoy your posts and have missed them the last week or so. You need anything give me a shout, xxx-xxx-xxxx (edited by wastepanel-send as a pm next time).
Ryan
Thanks ig2h, I got your number and may use it in a jam.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
Love Love Love the Update! I will quit with you any damn day! "I need you and you need me, and together we can be nic free! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
Shed, I knew your quit was still solid. Enjoy the vacation, get your ass on roll while your gone. I enjoy your posts and have missed them the last week or so. You need anything give me a shout, xxx-xxx-xxxx (edited by wastepanel-send as a pm next time).
Ryan
Thanks ig2h, I got your number and may use it in a jam.
Hey I just met you. And this is crazy. But I gave you my number. So call me maybe...to post for you, or to vent, or whatever. Have fun.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Tackle Box, , be careful would ya. You gotta have a short memory when you mix it up on the forums. Hell, some doucher told me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. It stung but I think before that I said I was gonna rub his nose in shit like a bad dog and something else about my balls and his wife...either way you gotta let it go like a soon to be 6 plopper with a crowning turtle head.
Peeps may piss you off and vice versa. But don't you ever let that get in the way of your quit. That will always be deserving of top billing. One of the many things that help a quit is chimming in on different topics. Whether it be in agreement, disagreement, offering an opinion, providing encouragement, laying out some tough love, or gathering #'s for when you're in need of a late night rub and tug...it helps tremendously to BE INVOLVED. Helping others and getting your thoughts and ideas out there can help more than your know. So don't go drifting away like some dead mackerel. Stick around around and stick your nose in shit like a sword fish. You have much to provide this site, besides a lubed up turd cutter.
Have fun on your vacation. Bring me back a petrified rock, stay quit and you best post roll for those 8 days.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Tackle Box, , be careful would ya. You gotta have a short memory when you mix it up on the forums. Hell, some doucher told me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. It stung but I think before that I said I was gonna rub his nose in shit like a bad dog and something else about my balls and his wife...either way you gotta let it go like a soon to be 6 plopper with a crowning turtle head.
Peeps may piss you off and vice versa. But don't you ever let that get in the way of your quit. That will always be deserving of top billing. One of the many things that help a quit is chimming in on different topics. Whether it be in agreement, disagreement, offering an opinion, providing encouragement, laying out some tough love, or gathering #'s for when you're in need of a late night rub and tug...it helps tremendously to BE INVOLVED. Helping others and getting your thoughts and ideas out there can help more than your know. So don't go drifting away like some dead mackerel. Stick around around and stick your nose in shit like a sword fish. You have much to provide this site, besides a lubed up turd cutter.
Have fun on your vacation. Bring me back a petrified rock, stay quit and you best post roll for those 8 days.
You wanna know why coming to Arizona on vacation is awesome? Because there is cell phone service and internet here!
Seriously, where you headed? If you find yourself in Phoenix and have a little time look me up, my number is yours for the taking.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Glad to see you "lurking" still buddy. Have a good vacation, and I quit with you.
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Hey all, quick update. Still a very strong and committed quit going so I am good there. I have been off the forums the last week or so since i take issue with how some folks have been treated and that creates a lightening rod that seems to irritate many, myself included. i simply dont need the drama and to be fair i suspect others feel the same about me. all water under the bridge, but an update for any that have wondering.
I am however off on vacation for 8 days to Arizona with the family and I will do my best to post. Just wanted folks to know.
Hey Shed,
that is what brothers do, we fight but we are also there for each other. Have a great vacation and if you got numbers go ahead and use them as this is the perfect time to do so.
Am with ya quit every day
Love Love Love the Update! I will quit with you any damn day! "I need you and you need me, and together we can be nic free! I'm a poet and I didn't even know it!
Shed, I knew your quit was still solid. Enjoy the vacation, get your ass on roll while your gone. I enjoy your posts and have missed them the last week or so. You need anything give me a shout, xxx-xxx-xxxx (edited by wastepanel-send as a pm next time).
Ryan
Thanks ig2h, I got your number and may use it in a jam.
Hey I just met you. And this is crazy. But I gave you my number. So call me maybe...to post for you, or to vent, or whatever. Have fun.
Tool, almost a year ago I was where you are. I suffered rage and thought a whinny caver was getting some damn harsh treatment. Day 8 and 9 I raged at Bruce and then got hit by massive cravings. It took me several weeks to come around to KTCs way of helping. The tough love may seem harsh but in reality many who come to quit aren't ready and will cave. To coddle them does nothing good for anyone. When we sympothise with a weak caver we weaken our own quit, it's a form of planned cave because we understand why someone would cave, "hell I could be that guy and cave." After fighting the urge to cave or sympothise with a caver we win one battle at a time but the addict mind will search for another angle to attack. Be very careful you are on a slippery slope.
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Aww man. That was good shit.
Duffle bags got his head on straight. Just has to get used to some drama. But I agree, he's too green to drift away.
Me and some dope who I don't see on here anymore got after it. It happens. For as much testosterone there is on this site I'm surprised it doesnt happen more often to be honest.
Don't let the drama get to you pocket protector, its good theater sometimes, and if you feel strongly about something don't be afraid to step foot into the ring and mix it up. Its good for you once in awhile .
Safe travels.
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Where did you go Tool Box??????