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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: DaveKnight on June 10, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
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My name is Dave,
I started dipping at 16 when I started working for an HVAC company and couldn't smoke underneath houses. I do not remember when I started tobacco, but I am 30 this year so I have been addicted to nicotine for more than half my life. Both of my parents smoked growing up, so I guess it was something I was always used to. I smoked and dipped during my first years in the Marine Corps. Once I became aircrew, I started dipping exclusively (can't smoke on aircraft). I quit while in Afghanistan for a few months, then started back almost as soon as I got home. Fast forward to today. My gums are starting to recede and I have dental pain. I have browsed this site for months, and decided to quit today. The can has been in the trash for 10 minutes now. I plan on getting some big red chewing gum to get me through the night. My daughter is weening off her pacifier at 1.5 yrs. So it got me to thinking. If a baby can give up an addiction, why the hell can't I?
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Great decision!
1) Post roll here: topic/10291235/92/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10291235/92/#new) as a promise to not dip today.
2) Keep your word
3) Repeat process tomorrow.
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Welcome Dave. Great decision to quit. Do us a huge favor: get that can out of the trash, flush the contents, and rinse it out in the sink. You don't need that temptation lying around in a trash can.
Make sure you read the Welcome Center first, and then get over to your quit group to post roll. Over the next few days while you're going through the misery of nicotine withdrawal, read all you can on KTC. Read everything, post questions, make some friends. We think nothing of exchanging phone numbers, especially those that are active on the site. If you join the discussion, you will have accountability and you will have people who have your back. That's how it works.
Congratulations on making a great decision. Get through today. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Today is the day my friend.
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Welcome Dave. Great decision to quit. Do us a huge favor: get that can out of the trash, flush the contents, and rinse it out in the sink. You don't need that temptation lying around in a trash can.
Make sure you read the Welcome Center first, and then get over to your quit group to post roll. Over the next few days while you're going through the misery of nicotine withdrawal, read all you can on KTC. Read everything, post questions, make some friends. We think nothing of exchanging phone numbers, especially those that are active on the site. If you join the discussion, you will have accountability and you will have people who have your back. That's how it works.
Congratulations on making a great decision. Get through today. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Today is the day my friend.
Yep ^^^^. First of all, thanks for your service to this beautiful country of ours. Secondly, welcome to the Sultans (your quit group). Your quit group includes a bunch of quitters that have at most been quit for two more weeks than you, so we know what you're going through right now. The "suck" sucks quite frankly. You'll get thru it though, just like you already made it thru the last half hour. It won't always be easy, but once you post your promise that you won't use nic that day, be a man of your word, and there won't be any issue.
A PM is on its way (top right hand corner of your screen), with my number. Use it and abuse it.
Thanks again for your service, and look forward to seeing you on roll.
J2thaZ
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Welcome Dave. Great decision to quit. Do us a huge favor: get that can out of the trash, flush the contents, and rinse it out in the sink. You don't need that temptation lying around in a trash can.
Make sure you read the Welcome Center first, and then get over to your quit group to post roll. Over the next few days while you're going through the misery of nicotine withdrawal, read all you can on KTC. Read everything, post questions, make some friends. We think nothing of exchanging phone numbers, especially those that are active on the site. If you join the discussion, you will have accountability and you will have people who have your back. That's how it works.
Congratulations on making a great decision. Get through today. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. Today is the day my friend.
Yep ^^^^. First of all, thanks for your service to this beautiful country of ours. Secondly, welcome to the Sultans (your quit group). Your quit group includes a bunch of quitters that have at most been quit for two more weeks than you, so we know what you're going through right now. The "suck" sucks quite frankly. You'll get thru it though, just like you already made it thru the last half hour. It won't always be easy, but once you post your promise that you won't use nic that day, be a man of your word, and there won't be any issue.
A PM is on its way (top right hand corner of your screen), with my number. Use it and abuse it.
Thanks again for your service, and look forward to seeing you on roll.
J2thaZ
Hey Dave
There's a bunch of us former Marines on here, other military guys and cops, ems, fire. We are all here. Your already here with your brothers, and a few sisters, might as well quit with us too.
It's hard. Cold turkey no nic.
I did it with jolly ranchers and smokey mountain for that oral component.
Almost to 200 days free now.
You have to understand you're an addict. Addicts lie. That nic bitch is going to whisper really sweetly in your ear. Who will know. Just one. Try again tomorrow. Etc ect. It's all lies man. She wants to kill you. She wants to take you away from your family.
The hard part is your own body has become the enemy. It's hard to fight it.
You have to win this fight tho.
Quit. Quit now.
Worry about the rest later.
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Welcome Aboard Dave. You just made the smartest decision of your life, it took me ten years longer to figure it out. Post roll everyday! Do it first thing in the morning and make your promise to yourself and to us that you will not use any form of nicotine. Read all you can on this site, read all the tips from the veterans, this place is full of information that you need to stay quit.
You got this.
MM
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Thanks for the motivation everyone. I appreciate it.
So, last night I had my first real test on my journey to being nicotine free. I've been in the fog for the last couple of days. I generally pay attention to every detail when I am driving. Not so much last night. I was driving a little too fast, so my wife had me slow down...I did. I started paying more attention to my speed limit. Then I passed a fire station, the trucks had their lights on (they sometimes do this, but usually aren't going anywhere). Well, without any horn or siren sound one of the fire trucks pulls out in front of me at a green light. I slam on my brakes. My wife gets mad at me, and tells me to slow down (although at this point I am going the speed limit). Obviously an argument ensued and I wanted a dip. I fought it off though. Not sure if she's still mad or not, but I'm over it. I have been a little more irritable lately, don't really like that aspect.
I think I am almost out of the fog. I am a little less irritable than yesterday and feel slightly more productive. Hopefully tomorrow I feel somewhat normal.
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Thanks for the motivation everyone. I appreciate it.
So, last night I had my first real test on my journey to being nicotine free. I've been in the fog for the last couple of days. I generally pay attention to every detail when I am driving. Not so much last night. I was driving a little too fast, so my wife had me slow down...I did. I started paying more attention to my speed limit. Then I passed a fire station, the trucks had their lights on (they sometimes do this, but usually aren't going anywhere). Well, without any horn or siren sound one of the fire trucks pulls out in front of me at a green light. I slam on my brakes. My wife gets mad at me, and tells me to slow down (although at this point I am going the speed limit). Obviously an argument ensued and I wanted a dip. I fought it off though. Not sure if she's still mad or not, but I'm over it. I have been a little more irritable lately, don't really like that aspect.
I think I am almost out of the fog. I am a little less irritable than yesterday and feel slightly more productive. Hopefully tomorrow I feel somewhat normal.
does she know you have quit? I told everyone, co-workers, family, priest, homeless dude by my office, gimp with the ball gag at the kids school, etc.
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Yup. I just don't think she gets it. She doesn't smoke and family never smoked. She'll get over it and I'll quit being so damned irritated. Not the end of the world.
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cool. My wife and I had a throw down on day 2, I pretty much said despite my 16-17 years of being an addict, the nag train needs to slow down a touch. I can't blame her since it was ??? 20th, 30th time I started to stop nic. Bottom line the trust is still not there at day 70, but there is positivity. I quit with you today Dave.
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
This is what I'm talking about. You've got a damn good quit and mindset right now DK. Keep this shit up EDD. 'worship'
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
You never quit before. You only stopped.
Any tool bag can stop for a little while, but only someone with some balls and WANT can QUIT. How bad do you want this?
You got balls or are you a little bitch and will this be your 4th STOP?
IF you have some testicular fortitude this will be your first and only QUIT.
I believe in you but ultimately it's up to you, sport.
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
This is what I'm talking about. You've got a damn good quit and mindset right now DK. Keep this shit up EDD. 'worship'
Thanks J. Quit Like Fuuuuuuuck today! 'biggun'
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
You never quit before. You only stopped.
Any tool bag can stop for a little while, but only someone with some balls and WANT can QUIT. How bad do you want this?
You got balls or are you a little bitch and will this be your 4th STOP?
IF you have some testicular fortitude this will be your first and only QUIT.
I believe in you but ultimately it's up to you, sport.
Diesel,
I've got this shit in the bag brother. ODAAT. I am sick and tired of giving my life away for $3.20 a can. Never again. I'm too pretty to lose half my face, and I'm too damn stubborn to let Nic take me down. cowboy BRING IT
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Quoting here:
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Diesel,
I've got this shit in the bag brother. ODAAT. I am sick and tired of giving my life away for $3.20 a can. Never again. I'm too pretty to lose half my face, and I'm too damn stubborn to let Nic take me down. cowboy BRING IT
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DK,
That's my Quit-Brother...you go, Marine!! HOO--RAH!!
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DK - I read your post on Sept roll today. You have excess energy that needs to be funneled to a healthy place. If anywhere near Raleigh, you are welcome to mow my grass, wash my cars, build me a new shed (16 x 20) please, maybe replace the roof. Quitting all day with you.
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This is my 3rd quit. I quit in boot camp, and I quit in Afghan. This time, I am quitting for myself, for my life, for my well being, for my freedom. I might be a bear for a few days, but I am quitting. Nothing is going to make me give up. Nothing is worth me giving up. What is more important than life?
You never quit before. You only stopped.
Any tool bag can stop for a little while, but only someone with some balls and WANT can QUIT. How bad do you want this?
You got balls or are you a little bitch and will this be your 4th STOP?
IF you have some testicular fortitude this will be your first and only QUIT.
I believe in you but ultimately it's up to you, sport.
Diesel,
I've got this shit in the bag brother. ODAAT. I am sick and tired of giving my life away for $3.20 a can. Never again. I'm too pretty to lose half my face, and I'm too damn stubborn to let Nic take me down. cowboy BRING IT
That's the attitude it's gonna take. Grind Grind Grind.
Stick to the site and the blueprint made by those on this site.
Its gonna suck for awhile. But in the grand scheme of things it will only be a tiny snap shot of suck in your life. A snap shot that could save your life.
Get after it.
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What makes this time different? When I stopped using before, it was either because I was forced or because I thought I should give it a shot (half-assed attempt). This time is different because my life depends on it. The big wake-up call is when I started having tooth pain due to a receding gum line. When it gets to that point, the tooth loss is well on its way. We all know that after you start losing teeth, the next step is cancer; either of the neck, the tongue, the throat, the lip, or the cheek. It is also different this time because I am not alone. I am being held accountable by quit brothers and sisters who are fighting the same battle. We have a common enemy in this. This is how this time is different.
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Congrats on making the best decision for your health!
What airframe were you a part of an aircrew on? I guess my screen name gives mine away lol
Quit on brother
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I was aircrew on the MV-22 Osprey. One hell of an A/C. I remember seeing the 60's from 224 in Iraq back in 2006-2007. The 60 is a badass A/C as well.
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DK - I read your post on Sept roll today. You have excess energy that needs to be funneled to a healthy place. If anywhere near Raleigh, you are welcome to mow my grass, wash my cars, build me a new shed (16 x 20) please, maybe replace the roof. Quitting all day with you.
I used to live in Jacksonville, NC when I was in the Marine Corps on Active Duty. I have since moved away. The excess energy has kind of died down over the last couple of days. I wish I still had it. My quit is still strong as hell though. QLF!!!
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I was aircrew on the MV-22 Osprey. One hell of an A/C. I remember seeing the 60's from 224 in Iraq back in 2006-2007. The 60 is a badass A/C as well.
I always thought the V-22 was an amazing aircraft. I mostly just repair the 60's now and have transitioned out of being a crew chief/door gunner(I blew out 3 discs in my back so it is too painful to fly). I always wondered how much of a monster the 22's are to repair. Seems like a LOT of moving parts lol
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I was aircrew on the MV-22 Osprey. One hell of an A/C. I remember seeing the 60's from 224 in Iraq back in 2006-2007. The 60 is a badass A/C as well.
I always thought the V-22 was an amazing aircraft. I mostly just repair the 60's now and have transitioned out of being a crew chief/door gunner(I blew out 3 discs in my back so it is too painful to fly). I always wondered how much of a monster the 22's are to repair. Seems like a LOT of moving parts lol
It is a LOT of moving parts. Luckily it falls mostly on Avi and Airframes.... I was flightline/powerline so we didn't have much to repair, but when we did, it was a bitch. Now that I am out of the Corps I have had some pretty righteous back problems. Service connected disabilities, but they never told me what the problem was....go figure.
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So, this weekend I was in the fog and driving. I ended up doing what I am always scared of my wife doing....I bent the rim on my car. It wasn't a little bend either, it caused a slow leak because the bead wasn't set properly. I am generally the best driver on the road, but since I've been in the fog...I'm probably the shittiest driver out there. I ended up hitting a little concrete curb that extended into the road a little ways to protect parking spots. My fogginess is getting better, but damn...did I really have to screw up my car?
On another note, I hit a full week of no Nic today; I am also looking forward to hitting Double D's on Thursday. I know we are doing the damn thing ODAAT, but it is always good to have short term goals as well. Stay QLF my friends!
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So, this weekend I was in the fog and driving. I ended up doing what I am always scared of my wife doing....I bent the rim on my car. It wasn't a little bend either, it caused a slow leak because the bead wasn't set properly. I am generally the best driver on the road, but since I've been in the fog...I'm probably the shittiest driver out there. I ended up hitting a little concrete curb that extended into the road a little ways to protect parking spots. My fogginess is getting better, but damn...did I really have to screw up my car?
On another note, I hit a full week of no Nic today; I am also looking forward to hitting Double D's on Thursday. I know we are doing the damn thing ODAAT, but it is always good to have short term goals as well. Stay QLF my friends!
Good for you Dave. A week is awesome and you've been wise beyond your years in our group. Proud as hell to be quit with you today!
J2thaZ
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I figured the fog would let up a little by now....Damn I'm tired.
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I figured the fog would let up a little by now....Damn I'm tired.
The past week I felt like I am in the fog all day and super tired, but when I lay down to sleep I am WIDE awake. Last night I even had a dream about buying dip lol.
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I figured the fog would let up a little by now....Damn I'm tired.
The past week I felt like I am in the fog all day and super tired, but when I lay down to sleep I am WIDE awake. Last night I even had a dream about buying dip lol.
I had my first dip dream two nights ago....unbelievably friggin' realistic....woke up scared shitless that I'd broken my promise (just for a moment). I'm with you on the fog thing...no wonder they call it that...I don't even know what "normal" is without being all hopped up on nicotine and caffeine. I normally drink about six 20 ounce cups of coffee a day....now I'm down to just two.
Stay focused (HA!) my friends, stay strong; proud to quit with you EDD.
and DK, even if it cost $200 to fix that rim, it's only like 40-50 days of dipping...you're STILL coming out ahead. :D
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I have pretty much been a solid dipper for the last 10 years. So the funny thing, I have not had a single dip dream yet. I did however have a dream that I had a cigarette with my dad last week. I woke up scared from that one. My dreams have been more vivid since I stopped. Last night I had a dream I was shipping out to Vietnam...I'm only 30. My wars were Iraq and Afghan.
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I figured the fog would let up a little by now....Damn I'm tired.
The past week I felt like I am in the fog all day and super tired, but when I lay down to sleep I am WIDE awake. Last night I even had a dream about buying dip lol.
Day 17 and still not sleeping for shit. It doesn't help that my kid is sick and waking up 6 times a night either. Seems like every time I fall asleep, she wakes up. Better than shoving that poison in my lip. That's actually how I started. I used it as a way to stay awake to work, study, etc. What a dummy. Tired but quit today, just like you bastards.
QLF Sultan pride.
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I figured the fog would let up a little by now....Damn I'm tired.
The past week I felt like I am in the fog all day and super tired, but when I lay down to sleep I am WIDE awake. Last night I even had a dream about buying dip lol.
Day 17 and still not sleeping for shit. It doesn't help that my kid is sick and waking up 6 times a night either. Seems like every time I fall asleep, she wakes up. Better than shoving that poison in my lip. That's actually how I started. I used it as a way to stay awake to work, study, etc. What a dummy. Tired but quit today, just like you bastards.
QLF Sultan pride.
When bedtime rolls around, I am ready as fuck. I haven't really had any trouble sleeping since my quit date. However, I have been able to wake up with the alarm clock (which is miraculous). I have a total of 5 Alarms in my room, all set for 5am. I got to the point where I could sleep through them all. However, now that I am quit as soon as they go off I am ready to go. Fuck nicotine! I have my friend Caffeine to help me out, at least he is a bro and won't kill me. I used dip to stay awake too, for energy, to regain lost energy, just because, to keep busy. Dip for me was like a security blanket, I would hold the can in my hand and pack it over and over for hours until I decided to take a pinch. It got to the point where I would make for sure I didn't have anything going on before I took a pinch...I did not want to have to spit it out and lose my precious precious nic fix. What a slave I was. Basta!
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Just read through this and there's a lot of good shit in here. Seems like yall are forming some good bonds in your group. Even when it gets shitty, which it will for quite some time, it's still a hell of a lot better than poisoning yourself. Each week the good times start lasting a little longer and longer between craves until eventually it becomes hours and days. I just want to warn you that your quit adrenaline will wear out sometime in the next week or two. Make sure you pace yourself. It's a marathon and not a sprint. Keep up the good quitting!
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We are a very tight group so far. I am just looking forward to the group closing so we can find out who is the wheat and who is the chaff. We have a lot of dedicated quitters who I think will contribute to this sites success even after HOF.
I wish the quit adrenaline would stick around, before I was a nicotine junkie I was an adrenaline junkie.
Stay QLF!
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I haven't been able to sleep much either J2. Last night I didn't fall asleep until nearly 0200 and I had to be up at 0500. I had some REALLY weird dreams too. I am going through the phase where I am dragging ass all day but when it comes time to sleep, my brain is wide awake. I think tonight I may try some benydryl or nyquil.
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I haven't been able to sleep much either J2. Last night I didn't fall asleep until nearly 0200 and I had to be up at 0500. I had some REALLY weird dreams too. I am going through the phase where I am dragging ass all day but when it comes time to sleep, my brain is wide awake. I think tonight I may try some benydryl or nyquil.
60,
That really sucks bro. I had some nights like that in Iraq many moons ago. Those damned RipIts had me completely wired at night, but I'd be dragging ass all day (RipIts or no RipIts). What I found worked for me was breathing exercises. Breathe in and out and focus solely on your breathing... shit you can even count the breaths if you want to. Do not even think about anything but breathing. You will be asleep in no time. In the off chance that doesn't work, get some Melatonin. It is a supplement that helps release the sleep hormone in your body to make you sleep. You won't wake up feeling like you were trampled by elephants the next morning (like on Nyquil and Benydryl).
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I will have to try out those techniques and pick up some melatonin.
On another note, if I never see a Rip-It again it will be too soon lol. I pretty much lived off those. IDK how it worked for you guys, but those were the only energy drinks we were allowed to drink while on flight status
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I will have to try out those techniques and pick up some melatonin.
On another note, if I never see a Rip-It again it will be too soon lol. I pretty much lived off those. IDK how it worked for you guys, but those were the only energy drinks we were allowed to drink while on flight status
60,
Our Docs were always bitching us out for chugging e-drinks in flight status. In the rear, we were constantly popping Monsters in the readyroom during brief. In Afghan, we were either chugging RipIts or Pitbulls (some sort of Pomegranate flavored energy drink we had in Afghan) in flight. When we did little favors for the A/DACG folks, they would hook us up with Otis Spunkmeyer muffins, cookies, and e-drinks. Our rules are "2 cups of coffee per flight day". E-drinks are "strictly" prohibited in flight status (even RipIt). Did you work out of Al Asad in Iraq? That place had the absolute BEST military chow I have ever stuffed my face with. Afghan chow halls sucked ass, even the Brit chow hall.
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I will have to try out those techniques and pick up some melatonin.
On another note, if I never see a Rip-It again it will be too soon lol. I pretty much lived off those. IDK how it worked for you guys, but those were the only energy drinks we were allowed to drink while on flight status
60,
Did you try any of those techniques? How did they work for you?
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DK,
You rock marine....10 days....may not seem like much to LOOT, but damn sure seems like half an eternity to me...
Keep on quittin' on, brother. Proud to be a Sultan with you today, tomorrow, every damn day after that.
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DK,
You rock marine....10 days....may not seem like much to LOOT, but damn sure seems like half an eternity to me...
Keep on quittin' on, brother. Proud to be a Sultan with you today, tomorrow, every damn day after that.
Wrongo my brothers, today is a +1 for all of us, we all do this ODAAT, your +1 is the same as my +1, because we both quit today.
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DK,
You rock marine....10 days....may not seem like much to LOOT, but damn sure seems like half an eternity to me...
Keep on quittin' on, brother. Proud to be a Sultan with you today, tomorrow, every damn day after that.
Wrongo my brothers, today is a +1 for all of us, we all do this ODAAT, your +1 is the same as my +1, because we both quit today.
Thanks gents +1 today too.
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Been having some strange dreams lately. They all involve drugs and/or smoking cigarettes. I rarely smoked before I quit dipping, and haven't partook of any form of narcotic drug since Spring Break of 2002. Weird dreams. Each time, I feel like I let both my family and my fellow quitters in the KTC Community. The one with the cigarette, the dream starts with me taking a puff off the cigarette; completely subconscious. Once I realize what I had done, I throw the cigarette to the ground in fear. Fear that I had broken my word, fear that I would be stuck with the addiction again. Crazy stuff. Thank God it was just a dream (or rather a nightmare). Today marks two weeks with no nicotine. Other than the strange dreams, my quit is still strong. I think it was literally just my time to quit, which is making this easier. It seems as though my brain could no longer find logic supporting continuing the self-destruction of addiction. The oral fixation is there, the nostalgia surfaces at times, but I am disgusted by even the thought of tobacco...today. I do not know how I will feel in a couple of days or weeks, but that is how I feel today. That is why I need KTC, as a tool to keep me honest, to keep me accountable, to keep me quit. Thank you my brothers and sisters. Lets Stay QLF today!
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Been having some strange dreams lately. They all involve drugs and/or smoking cigarettes. I rarely smoked before I quit dipping, and haven't partook of any form of narcotic drug since Spring Break of 2002. Weird dreams. Each time, I feel like I let both my family and my fellow quitters in the KTC Community. The one with the cigarette, the dream starts with me taking a puff off the cigarette; completely subconscious. Once I realize what I had done, I throw the cigarette to the ground in fear. Fear that I had broken my word, fear that I would be stuck with the addiction again. Crazy stuff. Thank God it was just a dream (or rather a nightmare). Today marks two weeks with no nicotine. Other than the strange dreams, my quit is still strong. I think it was literally just my time to quit, which is making this easier. It seems as though my brain could no longer find logic supporting continuing the self-destruction of addiction. The oral fixation is there, the nostalgia surfaces at times, but I am disgusted by even the thought of tobacco...today. I do not know how I will feel in a couple of days or weeks, but that is how I feel today. That is why I need KTC, as a tool to keep me honest, to keep me accountable, to keep me quit. Thank you my brothers and sisters. Lets Stay QLF today!
yep....them dip dreams will scare the F out of you, for sure....I'm still looking forward to the night where I go to sleep and actually stay that way till the next morning....hasn't happened yet (in like two weeks).
Stay strong DK. Proud to quit with you today.
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Been having some strange dreams lately. They all involve drugs and/or smoking cigarettes. I rarely smoked before I quit dipping, and haven't partook of any form of narcotic drug since Spring Break of 2002. Weird dreams. Each time, I feel like I let both my family and my fellow quitters in the KTC Community. The one with the cigarette, the dream starts with me taking a puff off the cigarette; completely subconscious. Once I realize what I had done, I throw the cigarette to the ground in fear. Fear that I had broken my word, fear that I would be stuck with the addiction again. Crazy stuff. Thank God it was just a dream (or rather a nightmare). Today marks two weeks with no nicotine. Other than the strange dreams, my quit is still strong. I think it was literally just my time to quit, which is making this easier. It seems as though my brain could no longer find logic supporting continuing the self-destruction of addiction. The oral fixation is there, the nostalgia surfaces at times, but I am disgusted by even the thought of tobacco...today. I do not know how I will feel in a couple of days or weeks, but that is how I feel today. That is why I need KTC, as a tool to keep me honest, to keep me accountable, to keep me quit. Thank you my brothers and sisters. Lets Stay QLF today!
yep....them dip dreams will scare the F out of you, for sure....I'm still looking forward to the night where I go to sleep and actually stay that way till the next morning....hasn't happened yet (in like two weeks).
Stay strong DK. Proud to quit with you today.
The nightmares. For your own good, document every single one. Write the details here on your intro and be sure to include how realistic they are.
Why are they so realistic? Because you've caved before. Use your dreams as education and fuel.
Dave, I've enjoyed reading your intro and the rapport you have with Cav. Keep it up, fellas. Thanks for your service - I appreciate your sacrifice.
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Had a craving this morning. Went to the gas station to fill up and grab some sunflower seeds and saw that Tiber Wolf was only .95 cents. I have always been a frugal addict, so even though Grizz was my weapon of choice with which to kill myself I would switch to less expensive alternatives when funds were running low. Good news is I fought it off and kept on keeping on.
So, about that JTZ situation. I have one word for the whole thing...Dafuq? The guy was really supportive. We texted back and forth a couple of times, his encouragement helped strengthen my quit in the early stages. It is just strange that he had put up this whole facade making us believe he was legit, and was so effective. Although he has been shunned by KTC, I hope he continues on the journey to quit ODAAT. This stuff can kill us, I hope he doesn't turn back.
The drama surrounding this site is discouraging at times. I know I am probably a more casual user of the site and some people need this support system more than I do. I just can't stand drama in any of its forms. I feel stupid even being a part of it. H0pefully now that we are a closed group, the drama will cease. :deadhorse:
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I hear where you are coming from. I exchanged quite a few messages with J2thaz and am still confused as hell. After this stuff popped up, I sent him a PM saying to hit me up outside the site, just in case he needed someone to keep him accountable......no response. I really think he did use the 2 screen names, got called out, and rather than fighting it he ran off because he knew he fucked up. Craziness.
Glad to see you are still quit bro. I smelled some grizzly wintergreen today(my past weapon of suicide) and it honestly made me feel sick to my stomach. I have begun to seem like a preacher for quitting nicotine at work. I guess if you are going to quit, you might as well go balls to the wall and get as many quitters as possible! lol.
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I just want to stop in and say your lack of restraint on emoticons might make someone's fucking head explode!
I quit with you. Have a wonderful rest of your day!
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Today is my day and I am thankful as hell my brother in law turned me onto this site. Grizzly was the worst thing to ever fucking happen to me. Kodiak was getting pricey and I was getting tired of shelling out almost 5 bucks a tin a day....I had quit to get life insurance (cold) for 3 months and then I came across the Grizz.....put that damn varsity jacket back on and boy did she fit well... Damnit i truly hate the shit and everything about it. I hate hiding it from my kids, pretending I am hiding it from my wife and that she doesn't know that when I retire down to my man cave I am immediately packing a tin. Hate fucking everything it stands for, because it stands for lies, dishonesty and nothing but a bad future.. Starting at 16 was a long time ago ( hell who am I kiding, I had my first leaf of beach nut in the 4th grade wearing my George Brett cleats and playing baseball) and at 42, I can see my 50's right around the corner and they don't include teeth....I tried to start yesterday and I fell off the horse the very first day damnit. Justified that I couldn't quit cold, 1 a day till the tin is gone,...yeah that's it,....ease into it. So I threw in a lip per last night for all of 10minutes after making a good first day of it. Now today I am anxious, my head hurts, I am angry with my 2 boys and over reacting to stupid shit. Oh and my skin is fucking itchy on my arms..(that's a new one on me.) I am flushing the remainder of said tin, cowboying up and taking the gosh damn panties off. I love my wife, I love my boys and I love myself too damn much to be a slave to this shit. Thanks Joel for the reach out brother....damn....this sucks!
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Today is my day and I am thankful as hell my brother in law turned me onto this site. Grizzly was the worst thing to ever fucking happen to me. Kodiak was getting pricey and I was getting tired of shelling out almost 5 bucks a tin a day....I had quit to get life insurance (cold) for 3 months and then I came across the Grizz.....put that damn varsity jacket back on and boy did she fit well... Damnit i truly hate the shit and everything about it. I hate hiding it from my kids, pretending I am hiding it from my wife and that she doesn't know that when I retire down to my man cave I am immediately packing a tin. Hate fucking everything it stands for, because it stands for lies, dishonesty and nothing but a bad future.. Starting at 16 was a long time ago ( hell who am I kiding, I had my first leaf of beach nut in the 4th grade wearing my George Brett cleats and playing baseball) and at 42, I can see my 50's right around the corner and they don't include teeth....I tried to start yesterday and I fell off the horse the very first day damnit. Justified that I couldn't quit cold, 1 a day till the tin is gone,...yeah that's it,....ease into it. So I threw in a lip per last night for all of 10minutes after making a good first day of it. Now today I am anxious, my head hurts, I am angry with my 2 boys and over reacting to stupid shit. Oh and my skin is fucking itchy on my arms..(that's a new one on me.) I am flushing the remainder of said tin, cowboying up and taking the gosh damn panties off. I love my wife, I love my boys and I love myself too damn much to be a slave to this shit. Thanks Joel for the reach out brother....damn....this sucks!
Keep it up brother. You are making a good decision. If you don't make a decision to quit now, when will the thought reenter your mind? Will it be when you have to have a tooth extracted, or maybe when you get a lesion on your tongue, maybe it will be when they remove half of your jaw. You will have to quit at some point, you might as well make it on your terms.
You will feel like crap for a couple of days. You will feel grumpy, useless at work, and like a horrible father and husband. I know I did. You know what though, a little over 2 weeks into this I have more energy, I'm not as grumpy, and I have a lot more patience than at any point when I was using tobacco (because I was always waiting on that next fix).
You can do this brother, you just have to be strong and learn from this site. Read read read....everything. Post roll every day. Remember it is a promise to your brothers and sisters who are going through the same struggle. Stay QLF!
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Appreciated Knight! Today is a great day and I'm that much closer to where I want to be.
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Actually had a Dip Dream last night. I dreamed that I took a pinch out of a can of Grizzly Mint. Never much cared for the stuff personally. Anyway I felt like a big ol' douche for letting everyone down. Of course, I tried to rationalize it. "This is the last one, just because I messed up doesn't mean I cant stay quit". Soon I realized it was just a dream, or rather a nightmare. Thank goodness it wasn't real life. I am starting to go through the funk. I thought I was in the clear yesterday and the day before, but I feel like a bag of ass today. Sort of feel like being in the fog again. Talk about some suck. Still kickin ass though!
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
I support the hell out of your quit Dave, but I think I just had a seizure with all of the blinking. Remember, some of us are old as fuck too!
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
DK,
Yeah, but is that face still "pretty???? :D
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
DK,
Yeah, but is that face still "pretty???? :D
“My face is so pretty, you don't see a scar, which proves I'm the king of the ring by far.”
-Mohammad Ali-
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
DK,
Yeah, but is that face still "pretty???? :D
“My face is so pretty, you don't see a scar, which proves I'm the king of the ring by far.”
-Mohammad Ali-
Dragging ass lately bigtime. I miss the initial quit energy I had. Where did THAT shit go?
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
DK,
Yeah, but is that face still "pretty???? :D
“My face is so pretty, you don't see a scar, which proves I'm the king of the ring by far.”
-Mohammad Ali-
Dragging ass lately bigtime. I miss the initial quit energy I had. Where did THAT shit go?
Get up exercise do something. Your body is fighting back and needs redirected with mental power and testicular fortitude.
Early in my quit I used burpees and pushups to push through the blahs.
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Feeling Great today. I have dreams every now and then, but no more craves. Rarely need the seeds or gum to keep my face busy.
Dave, your signature is trippin' me out!
DK,
Yeah, but is that face still "pretty???? :D
“My face is so pretty, you don't see a scar, which proves I'm the king of the ring by far.”
-Mohammad Ali-
Dragging ass lately bigtime. I miss the initial quit energy I had. Where did THAT shit go?
Get up exercise do something. Your body is fighting back and needs redirected with mental power and testicular fortitude.
Early in my quit I used burpees and pushups to push through the blahs.
It happens Dave, push through it and stay close to the site. Perhaps add a few more smilies to your sig j/k. Stay quit man.
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Hit my 30 day mark on my 30th birthday. I am glad to be quit. I told my Grandmother that I had quit the other day, and she was thrilled. She said that she has been praying for the longest time that I quit before I get cancer. Guess the good Lord concurred that it was a good idea for me to quit and gave me a nudge. My mother has been quit for 3 years now (smoking), and she is equally proud that I have finally taken the plunge. I have a strong support group both within and outside of KTC. Thank you all for helping me quit today. In return, read below for a morsel that I hope will help you quit today as well.
For those of you who have young daughters, think about her in her future prom photo next to her daddy. Does he still have his jaw? Is he even there? Shawn Marsee died at 19 years old after only 9 years of use; most of us have been using for much longer. Who is to say you will even make it in one piece to your daughters prom, graduation, or wedding? Let that sink in a little and help you quit today.
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Hit my 30 day mark on my 30th birthday. I am glad to be quit. I told my Grandmother that I had quit the other day, and she was thrilled. She said that she has been praying for the longest time that I quit before I get cancer. Guess the good Lord concurred that it was a good idea for me to quit and gave me a nudge. My mother has been quit for 3 years now (smoking), and she is equally proud that I have finally taken the plunge. I have a strong support group both within and outside of KTC. Thank you all for helping me quit today. In return, read below for a morsel that I hope will help you quit today as well.
For those of you who have young daughters, think about her in her future prom photo next to her daddy. Does he still have his jaw? Is he even there? Shawn Marsee died at 19 years old after only 9 years of use; most of us have been using for much longer. Who is to say you will even make it in one piece to your daughters prom, graduation, or wedding? Let that sink in a little and help you quit today.
Congrats on 30 days. That is a big time quit. If you are anything like me the next couple of weeks may get shitty as the craves keep rolling in (although weaker) and get sick of fighting trhem off. Keep grinding you will get through that as well.
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Hit my 30 day mark on my 30th birthday. I am glad to be quit. I told my Grandmother that I had quit the other day, and she was thrilled. She said that she has been praying for the longest time that I quit before I get cancer. Guess the good Lord concurred that it was a good idea for me to quit and gave me a nudge. My mother has been quit for 3 years now (smoking), and she is equally proud that I have finally taken the plunge. I have a strong support group both within and outside of KTC. Thank you all for helping me quit today. In return, read below for a morsel that I hope will help you quit today as well.
For those of you who have young daughters, think about her in her future prom photo next to her daddy. Does he still have his jaw? Is he even there? Shawn Marsee died at 19 years old after only 9 years of use; most of us have been using for much longer. Who is to say you will even make it in one piece to your daughters prom, graduation, or wedding? Let that sink in a little and help you quit today.
Congrats on 30 days. That is a big time quit. If you are anything like me the next couple of weeks may get shitty as the craves keep rolling in (although weaker) and get sick of fighting trhem off. Keep grinding you will get through that as well.
Dagranger,
Thanks. The cravings are pretty much gone. The oral fixation is still there, and there is a slight temptation when I see the wall of wormdirt at the C-Store (although it is fleeting). For the most part, I think I have the hang of this. Having fellow quitters going through the struggle with me makes everything that much easier. QLF!
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Hit my 30 day mark on my 30th birthday. I am glad to be quit. I told my Grandmother that I had quit the other day, and she was thrilled. She said that she has been praying for the longest time that I quit before I get cancer. Guess the good Lord concurred that it was a good idea for me to quit and gave me a nudge. My mother has been quit for 3 years now (smoking), and she is equally proud that I have finally taken the plunge. I have a strong support group both within and outside of KTC. Thank you all for helping me quit today. In return, read below for a morsel that I hope will help you quit today as well.
For those of you who have young daughters, think about her in her future prom photo next to her daddy. Does he still have his jaw? Is he even there? Shawn Marsee died at 19 years old after only 9 years of use; most of us have been using for much longer. Who is to say you will even make it in one piece to your daughters prom, graduation, or wedding? Let that sink in a little and help you quit today.
Congrats on 30 days. That is a big time quit. If you are anything like me the next couple of weeks may get shitty as the craves keep rolling in (although weaker) and get sick of fighting trhem off. Keep grinding you will get through that as well.
Dagranger,
Thanks. The cravings are pretty much gone. The oral fixation is still there, and there is a slight temptation when I see the wall of wormdirt at the C-Store (although it is fleeting). For the most part, I think I have the hang of this. Having fellow quitters going through the struggle with me makes everything that much easier. QLF!
Nice 30!
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Hit my 30 day mark on my 30th birthday. I am glad to be quit. I told my Grandmother that I had quit the other day, and she was thrilled. She said that she has been praying for the longest time that I quit before I get cancer. Guess the good Lord concurred that it was a good idea for me to quit and gave me a nudge. My mother has been quit for 3 years now (smoking), and she is equally proud that I have finally taken the plunge. I have a strong support group both within and outside of KTC. Thank you all for helping me quit today. In return, read below for a morsel that I hope will help you quit today as well.
For those of you who have young daughters, think about her in her future prom photo next to her daddy. Does he still have his jaw? Is he even there? Shawn Marsee died at 19 years old after only 9 years of use; most of us have been using for much longer. Who is to say you will even make it in one piece to your daughters prom, graduation, or wedding? Let that sink in a little and help you quit today.
Congrats on 30 days. That is a big time quit. If you are anything like me the next couple of weeks may get shitty as the craves keep rolling in (although weaker) and get sick of fighting trhem off. Keep grinding you will get through that as well.
Dagranger,
Thanks. The cravings are pretty much gone. The oral fixation is still there, and there is a slight temptation when I see the wall of wormdirt at the C-Store (although it is fleeting). For the most part, I think I have the hang of this. Having fellow quitters going through the struggle with me makes everything that much easier. QLF!
Nice 30!
Nice job on the month Dave!
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Dafuq happened here? Thanks guys. I am about 1/3 of the way to HOF. We all have to have goals in this thing. Short term and long term. My short term goal is obviously making today nic free with my family at KTC, specifically the Sultans of September 2014.
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Dafuq happened here? Thanks guys. I am about 1/3 of the way to HOF. We all have to have goals in this thing. Short term and long term. My short term goal is obviously making today nic free with my family at KTC, specifically the Sultans of September 2014.
One day at a time is the only way.
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Dafuq happened here? Thanks guys. I am about 1/3 of the way to HOF. We all have to have goals in this thing. Short term and long term. My short term goal is obviously making today nic free with my family at KTC, specifically the Sultans of September 2014.
One day at a time is the only way.
That is the bomb... Back when I was a dippin loser I remember thinking about the future... Always kept me from quitting. This is the big difference here. Quit today then get up tomorrow and do it again. Eventually it will turn into 100 days for you, then 200, 300.... But only for today!!!
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Seems like all of my "dip dreams" are actually smoking dreams. I guess it is because I never really liked dipping per se. My preferred method of slow suicide was smoking. Just saying I had another dream last night. I smoked not only one, but two cigarettes back to back. Then I thought about KTC. What scared me most was not the fact that I used again, but the fact that I actually thought of covering it up and posting roll anyway. That ain't me, but the thought was scary none the less. I read a couple days ago that if a person uses nicotine again, the chances are great that they will use again that same day. I was talking to my wife yesterday telling her that if I am going to stay quit, I can NEVER use again. If I do, the whole thing starts over. NAFAR!
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Gettin' real tired of you "dip dreams"!
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Gettin' real tired of you "dip dreams"!
Man don't worry about them. I still have them at around 300 days. Few and far between though. I dreamed that James Taylor sold car insurance over the phone last night. What the hell does that mean? We all suck to be addicts. Tonight I'll come by and smack that crap out of yo mouf son!!!!!
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So, last night my dream was about hitting the Hookah. It is funny how KTC is always an afterthought of these dreams. The dream starts with you blazing like Cheech and Chong; then suddenly you are like: Oh shit, I just broke the promise to all of the guys and gals at KTC.....WHATAMIGONNADO!?!?!?!?!
Tobacco has been a big part of my life. Both my parents smoked for the 18 years I lived with them. My first cig was at 6 yo, and I started using full time by the time I was 15. I started dipping when it became more advantageous for me to do so. Dip is more convenient when you can't take a smoke break. In Iraq I was smoking French cigs and Hookah seemingly every minute of every day. Then when I became Aircrew I never went without a dip in during working hours, unless I was in formation or talking to my CO. I would do 8+ hour flights with a lipper in the whole time.
This quit is probably the hardest thing I have ever done. I have prevailed for 38 days so far. Now I just have to make it one more.
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So, last night my dream was about hitting the Hookah. It is funny how KTC is always an afterthought of these dreams. The dream starts with you blazing like Cheech and Chong; then suddenly you are like: Oh shit, I just broke the promise to all of the guys and gals at KTC.....WHATAMIGONNADO!?!?!?!?!
Tobacco has been a big part of my life. Both my parents smoked for the 18 years I lived with them. My first cig was at 6 yo, and I started using full time by the time I was 15. I started dipping when it became more advantageous for me to do so. Dip is more convenient when you can't take a smoke break. In Iraq I was smoking French cigs and Hookah seemingly every minute of every day. Then when I became Aircrew I never went without a dip in during working hours, unless I was in formation or talking to my CO. I would do 8+ hour flights with a lipper in the whole time.
This quit is probably the hardest thing I have ever done. I have prevailed for 38 days so far. Now I just have to make it one more.
You got this.
If you need to, lean on a brother. I got your back, as do many here.
If you need help, just reach out.
You can do this. If I can, you can.
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So, last night my dream was about hitting the Hookah. It is funny how KTC is always an afterthought of these dreams. The dream starts with you blazing like Cheech and Chong; then suddenly you are like: Oh shit, I just broke the promise to all of the guys and gals at KTC.....WHATAMIGONNADO!?!?!?!?!
Tobacco has been a big part of my life. Both my parents smoked for the 18 years I lived with them. My first cig was at 6 yo, and I started using full time by the time I was 15. I started dipping when it became more advantageous for me to do so. Dip is more convenient when you can't take a smoke break. In Iraq I was smoking French cigs and Hookah seemingly every minute of every day. Then when I became Aircrew I never went without a dip in during working hours, unless I was in formation or talking to my CO. I would do 8+ hour flights with a lipper in the whole time.
This quit is probably the hardest thing I have ever done. I have prevailed for 38 days so far. Now I just have to make it one more.
You got this.
If you need to, lean on a brother. I got your back, as do many here.
If you need help, just reach out.
You can do this. If I can, you can.
What ^^^ he said! You've got my digits and I'm sure you have other digits in which to use. Use 'em that's what they are for and that's what we are all here for. If I have a crave and thinking about caving I'm going to text everyone on my contact sheet and ask for permission to cave. Doubtful that I'll get anyone to give me permission but everyone here makes up my zero barrier!
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Your signature infatuates my youngest son every time he sees it.
Quite the war being fought there.
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Your signature infatuates my youngest son every time he sees it.
Quite the war being fought there.
The imogies help me stay quit.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!
The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!
The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!
I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!
The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!
I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.
August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!
The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!
I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.
August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.
http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-when-quitting-smokeless-tobacco-dip-chew/)
(and here's the thread from August: Fog discussion (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8423955&t=10225414))
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
I was pretty pissed when they took ephedrine off the market too, that stuff kinda helped me focus.
I am pretty sure dip is not indicated for your ability to focus.... I know I ain't hearing that you would dip again to get back on track? No Hell No sir!!!!... YOU are stronger than that to think that way dude!!! Nicotine is an addictive drug. It's effects might have some properties that made it seem like you had the ability to focus, but all you ever did was feed an addiction. There is no value in this drug..... The American Journal of Medicine does not recommend this drug for anything.... It serves no purpose other than to line pockets of someone marketing it...but you know that... And I am sure you weren't seriously thinking about dipping again. Just had to point this crap out!!!
The fog goes away... You will be able to focus more on life than on quitting... It takes time!!!
I couldn't really focus until about day 180 or so.
August had a thread on this a week or so ago, will see if I can find and post to my intro. I continue to have problems focusing at 80 days.
http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-whe ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/nutrition-when-quitting-smokeless-tobacco-dip-chew/)
(and here's the thread from August: Fog discussion (http://forum.killthecan.org/single/?p=8423955&t=10225414))
Dave if I can add to that thread, give yourself some time. After about 180 days, my focus came back on its own. Stay with it brutha! Like I told you list time I hit this thread....you're in a really shitty time to be quit. 20-50 days sucks.
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Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.
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Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.
Maybe they've been looking at your signature!!! Seriously being quit doesn't change a lot around you, it changes what's in your head and your physical self. Have things gotten worse since you quit?
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Been having some troubles on the homefront here lately. Figured being quit would have made things better. No longer rushing the fam through a shopping trip so I can get my fix. Finally enjoying the family time for what it is. Lots more fighting lately, don't know why. Not sacrificing my quit over the stress of it all. I am proud that I can go through this and not cave (thanks to KTC Fam). Wish me luck and pray for the situation to improve.
DK.
Hang tough brother. You need something or just want to talk, you know how to get ahold of me. You've got my support and prayers to help you and the family get through this.
I'm also with you on the fog/focus thing....will be really glad when it does return to "normal" (whatever normal was....been so long I can't remember).
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
It's proven that using does nothing for you but feed your addiction. Lots of quitters have hit your intro with some good advice. Start doing some research and learn everything you can about the poison. You'll find that a lot of your beliefs are lies. Learn your enemy it knows you.
Here's one that I found interesting. I've read that nicotine can negatively affect your memory. It's proven that people that smoke for years can not concentrate as well as someone who has not. Add that with not being able to remember things as well. The fact is brother, we are the ones that have screwed our shi@@. Nicotine has stolen stuff from us we will never get back. It takes until there is nothing left. If we didn't/don't quit it would continue until there is nothing left.
There is a great book to read. A lot of us have read it. Allen car's the easy way to quit smoking. Check it out. Once you know the truths you can start the real healing!!
Pay attention to my next line. One day at a time and you can have back a LOT of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
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No dip dreams for a few days. I used to think ADD was BS. I was diagnosed as a kid and took medicine until 8th grade. A few years later I started smoking and using tobacco just because it was "cool". Now I realize I was self-medicating ADD the whole time. I can't pay attention to anything or stay on task to save my life now that I've been quit. Nic is a stimulant and I was taking advantage of those properties, which helped me stay on task. However, I'd rather be ADD than focused and ate up with cancer. I don't have time to go to a shrink, be "re-diagnosed" and start playing with big pharma and their ineffective or zombifying drugs. If anyone has ADD, what do you use aside from tobacco to help you focus. Vitamins, OTC meds? I'll be damned if I'mma start dipping again, eff that noize.
It's proven that using does nothing for you but feed your addiction. Lots of quitters have hit your intro with some good advice. Start doing some research and learn everything you can about the poison. You'll find that a lot of your beliefs are lies. Learn your enemy it knows you.
Here's one that I found interesting. I've read that nicotine can negatively affect your memory. It's proven that people that smoke for years can not concentrate as well as someone who has not. Add that with not being able to remember things as well. The fact is brother, we are the ones that have screwed our shi@@. Nicotine has stolen stuff from us we will never get back. It takes until there is nothing left. If we didn't/don't quit it would continue until there is nothing left.
There is a great book to read. A lot of us have read it. Allen car's the easy way to quit smoking. Check it out. Once you know the truths you can start the real healing!!
Pay attention to my next line. One day at a time and you can have back a LOT of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.
The run of the mill response to these types of questions (and most appropriate response) is to talk with your doctor. Although a stimulant, I do think that nicotine pales in comparison to amphetamines, however because you dipped and probably dipped a lot, you may as well have had an IV drip of nicotine; and like you say, probably had some therapeutic benefits as a result. When used appropriately, amphetamines are the drugs of choice for ADD. There are a couple of non-amphetamine alternatives to discuss with your doctor, guanfacine and Strattera.
However, since you are somewhat opposed to the doctor avenue, you can look into some homeopathics known for "mental focus" such as Ginseng and ginko biloba.
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Thanks again for all of the great advice. I have been more irritable and on edge since I quit. That may have had a lot to do with it. I have always been sort of a sarcastic, insensitive ass; probably amplified by being a grumpy, sarcastic, insensitive ass.
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Thanks again for all of the great advice. I have been more irritable and on edge since I quit. That may have had a lot to do with it. I have always been sort of a sarcastic, insensitive ass; probably amplified by being a grumpy, sarcastic, insensitive ass.
It is gonna suck until it doesn't and then it won't.
The above statement about sums up quitting. I was told that early on and it sort of blew right over my head cuz I was in a battle and it was hard to think. You need to fight like hell and trust us ... there is a payoff. Trust it cuz we who have run your path already can attest to it.
There is no overnight fix here... You can't poison yourself for years and expect to snap your fingers and be fixed. Time is what it takes.
You will be irritable, pissed off half the time, you will zone out, you will lose track of days... you will go thru all sorts of issues. You need to fight thru all of it and quit ODAAT. In time it gets better, but for now... Embrace the suck and fight.
Quit with you all day.
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Still muddling through the focus thing. Over that halfway-HOF hump. There is no turning back now. Time has been invested, commitments have been made, and I don't have to worry about losing my face. Life is good.
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I hit a stretch between 55 and 75 that was amazing, and everything was right with the world. I've had a couple of funks since, but the freedom periods are getting longer and more often. Best thing ever.
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Hey DK. I don't want to sound like I am reducing your feelings of concern with all that is going on with your quit right now, but really the important thing is that you are posting roll and that you realize you need help. Others could benefit from your positive slant on your need to be quit. No BS here that I can see.... Something I did hear somewhere here early on in my quit was that if I focused on the fog that it could be worse. I'll try to find that advice and I will send it to you if I do. I quit with you today and everyday!!!
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Hey DK. I don't want to sound like I am reducing your feelings of concern with all that is going on with your quit right now, but really the important thing is that you are posting roll and that you realize you need help. Others could benefit from your positive slant on your need to be quit. No BS here that I can see.... Something I did hear somewhere here early on in my quit was that if I focused on the fog that it could be worse. I'll try to find that advice and I will send it to you if I do. I quit with you today and everyday!!!
Doc,
That actually makes a lot of sense. The more you focus on an issue the more 'dominant' it becomes in your daily life.
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I am def. sensing longer periouds between the funky fog days. So glad I am off tobacco now. There's no turning back. Life's too good now.
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I am def. sensing longer periouds between the funky fog days. So glad I am off tobacco now. There's no turning back. Life's too good now.
You have not seen anything yet brother. It gets so much better. Be patient and take one day at a time like everyone says! BOOM, you got this!
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I'd like to think those of you who reached out this weekend when I did not post roll. I have two phones, the one with my KTC number was not on me (dumb phone). I was busy with friends and family all day Saturday and forgot to post roll (I thought of it early in the morning, but got busy helping the wife get breakfast ready). Life is starting to become more normal without dip. All weekend, I was never in danger of caving. However, I still need this site and the support system. The last thing I want is for a situation to sneak up that causes me to crave nicotine to the point of caving. Hope you guys can forgive my mistake, the intent was there; but the follow through was flawed.
On another note, I had a Doc Appt on Friday. For the very first time in my adult life I have been able to say that I no longer use tobacco. I had some blood labs done which all came back clear. Apparently I am in good health (now if I could only get rid of these 10lbs I put on at the beginning of my quit.
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
Dave,
You can call me a hardliner, or asshole, or whole ass....I really don't much care as long as you're quit. You're too young, and as you said in a post somewhere much earlier in this introduction, you have too pretty a face for cancer to tear it up (although given you're a Marine, I have to doubt that somewhat).
I know you're pissed about the missed post. Sorry that happened, but take and use it to your advantage. Just like Guadalcanal....let that be your Never Again point.
I'm with you brother....we're gonna hit 100 together, then 200, then the next fifty or sixty hundreds after that...(by then I'll prolly be dead cause I'm friggin old!!!) :D
I just wish I could get through the inability to think clearly and consistently. Like SFGE says, one day it will come....right now we're on day 66 and being honest I gotta tell you I'm not feelin' it.
Quit on brother....ain't no turnin' back.
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
Dave,
You can call me a hardliner, or asshole, or whole ass....I really don't much care as long as you're quit. You're too young, and as you said in a post somewhere much earlier in this introduction, you have too pretty a face for cancer to tear it up (although given you're a Marine, I have to doubt that somewhat).
I know you're pissed about the missed post. Sorry that happened, but take and use it to your advantage. Just like Guadalcanal....let that be your Never Again point.
I'm with you brother....we're gonna hit 100 together, then 200, then the next fifty or sixty hundreds after that...(by then I'll prolly be dead cause I'm friggin old!!!) :D
I just wish I could get through the inability to think clearly and consistently. Like SFGE says, one day it will come....right now we're on day 66 and being honest I gotta tell you I'm not feelin' it.
Quit on brother....ain't no turnin' back.
CavMan, what do you mean? All Marines have pretty faces... That's a given, just ask Nolaq, Pinched, Bulldog or any of the Marines here! Ha!
Seriously, you guys got this. Be patient and all will be revealed in time. If freedom from the nic bitch was easy to obtain we wouldn't have a addiction problem. The best part of my quit has been the journey and the discovery of myself along that journey. It does take some time but the freedom is awesome. Don't ever give up or miss out on that because it is worth going through the craves, the dreams and panic attacks. That will all go away in time.
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
Dave,
You can call me a hardliner, or asshole, or whole ass....I really don't much care as long as you're quit. You're too young, and as you said in a post somewhere much earlier in this introduction, you have too pretty a face for cancer to tear it up (although given you're a Marine, I have to doubt that somewhat).
I know you're pissed about the missed post. Sorry that happened, but take and use it to your advantage. Just like Guadalcanal....let that be your Never Again point.
I'm with you brother....we're gonna hit 100 together, then 200, then the next fifty or sixty hundreds after that...(by then I'll prolly be dead cause I'm friggin old!!!) :D
I just wish I could get through the inability to think clearly and consistently. Like SFGE says, one day it will come....right now we're on day 66 and being honest I gotta tell you I'm not feelin' it.
Quit on brother....ain't no turnin' back.
CavMan, what do you mean? All Marines have pretty faces... That's a given, just ask Nolaq, Pinched, Bulldog or any of the Marines here! Ha!
Seriously, you guys got this. Be patient and all will be revealed in time. If freedom from the nic bitch was easy to obtain we wouldn't have a addiction problem. The best part of my quit has been the journey and the discovery of myself along that journey. It does take some time but the freedom is awesome. Don't ever give up or miss out on that because it is worth going through the craves, the dreams and panic attacks. That will all go away in time.
SFGE,
The ONLY pretty Marines I have ever seen was a pair of Marine Captains (female) who used to work out the same time I did in the gym in Camp Arifjan....they were some lookers. Never met a pretty MALE marine in three decades of service....just sayin'.
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
Dave,
You can call me a hardliner, or asshole, or whole ass....I really don't much care as long as you're quit. You're too young, and as you said in a post somewhere much earlier in this introduction, you have too pretty a face for cancer to tear it up (although given you're a Marine, I have to doubt that somewhat).
I know you're pissed about the missed post. Sorry that happened, but take and use it to your advantage. Just like Guadalcanal....let that be your Never Again point.
I'm with you brother....we're gonna hit 100 together, then 200, then the next fifty or sixty hundreds after that...(by then I'll prolly be dead cause I'm friggin old!!!) :D
I just wish I could get through the inability to think clearly and consistently. Like SFGE says, one day it will come....right now we're on day 66 and being honest I gotta tell you I'm not feelin' it.
Quit on brother....ain't no turnin' back.
CavMan, what do you mean? All Marines have pretty faces... That's a given, just ask Nolaq, Pinched, Bulldog or any of the Marines here! Ha!
Seriously, you guys got this. Be patient and all will be revealed in time. If freedom from the nic bitch was easy to obtain we wouldn't have a addiction problem. The best part of my quit has been the journey and the discovery of myself along that journey. It does take some time but the freedom is awesome. Don't ever give up or miss out on that because it is worth going through the craves, the dreams and panic attacks. That will all go away in time.
SFGE,
The ONLY pretty Marines I have ever seen was a pair of Marine Captains (female) who used to work out the same time I did in the gym in Camp Arifjan....they were some lookers. Never met a pretty MALE marine in three decades of service....just sayin'.
I'm your Huckleberry....
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Last night I had a dip dream within a dip dream that I caved in another dip dream. Don't know if that means something, but it was strange none the less. No more cravings throughout the day, I have gone through some stressful times over the last couple of months and never once even considered using dip. I have KTC to thank. The hardliners can kind of get on my nerves every now and again, but they do serve a purpose in the community. You obviously don't want to be the object of their disdain, and you don't want to cave when there are people so dedicated in your community. So hardliners, I may post my irritation with your straightedge ways; but you guys do serve a valuable purpose. Keeping the rest of us (who don't get excited very easily) quit.
Dave,
You can call me a hardliner, or asshole, or whole ass....I really don't much care as long as you're quit. You're too young, and as you said in a post somewhere much earlier in this introduction, you have too pretty a face for cancer to tear it up (although given you're a Marine, I have to doubt that somewhat).
I know you're pissed about the missed post. Sorry that happened, but take and use it to your advantage. Just like Guadalcanal....let that be your Never Again point.
I'm with you brother....we're gonna hit 100 together, then 200, then the next fifty or sixty hundreds after that...(by then I'll prolly be dead cause I'm friggin old!!!) :D
I just wish I could get through the inability to think clearly and consistently. Like SFGE says, one day it will come....right now we're on day 66 and being honest I gotta tell you I'm not feelin' it.
Quit on brother....ain't no turnin' back.
CavMan, what do you mean? All Marines have pretty faces... That's a given, just ask Nolaq, Pinched, Bulldog or any of the Marines here! Ha!
Seriously, you guys got this. Be patient and all will be revealed in time. If freedom from the nic bitch was easy to obtain we wouldn't have a addiction problem. The best part of my quit has been the journey and the discovery of myself along that journey. It does take some time but the freedom is awesome. Don't ever give up or miss out on that because it is worth going through the craves, the dreams and panic attacks. That will all go away in time.
SFGE,
The ONLY pretty Marines I have ever seen was a pair of Marine Captains (female) who used to work out the same time I did in the gym in Camp Arifjan....they were some lookers. Never met a pretty MALE marine in three decades of service....just sayin'.
I'm your Huckleberry....
Congratulations u r re-wiring ur addict brain. That is progress. Keep going. Enjoy ur victories. Quit is the good life.
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Thanks for the words of encouragement guys. For the record, we Marines are some sexy beasts.
I noticed some tobacco glorification (in the words of Doc Chewfree) this morning on KTC. I am done with tobacco in all its forms. The stuff stinks, it doesn't do anyone any good, and the price is skyrocketing. The only method I may miss is hookah. That was the only method of tobacco use that was more social than addiction behavior for me. You know what though, phuk hookah too. It is just a gateway back to where I was 67 days ago. I have no desire to go back there. I have too much to live for, too many people counting on me, and have too much invested to ever turn back. I have no problem looking at a future never using tobacco again. It was taking my money, my energy, my youth, and slowly taking my life. I always prided myself on my teeth. I have some damned good teeth. When I started having dental pain and a receding gum line, that was the final straw for me. Phuk tobacco, Phuck nicotine, and Phuck the can most of all.
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Day seven-zero mutha beetches!
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Day seven-zero mutha beetches!
And that is why you ARE my favorite Marine!!
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Rough day, and it is only 7:30am.
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Rough day, and it is only 7:30am.
Started off w a roll post so nic is off the table! Some pre HoF funkage might be making itself known.
Might recommend adding another layer of quit defense, meet another KTC member, dive into the fogginess w a newb or go help some geriatric shut in vet.
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Check your PMs.
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Rough day, and it is only 7:30am.
Started off w a roll post so nic is off the table! Some pre HoF funkage might be making itself known.
Might recommend adding another layer of quit defense, meet another KTC member, dive into the fogginess w a newb or go help some geriatric shut in vet.
It may very well be the funk. When will all of this adjusting be over with? Hopefully all will be well after HOF.
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Rough day, and it is only 7:30am.
Started off w a roll post so nic is off the table! Some pre HoF funkage might be making itself known.
Might recommend adding another layer of quit defense, meet another KTC member, dive into the fogginess w a newb or go help some geriatric shut in vet.
It may very well be the funk. When will all of this adjusting be over with? Hopefully all will be well after HOF.
Every day is a new battle - keeping your quit a priority and never forget the suck we went through.
Keep pushing yourself and pick up a new challenge...... Stay frosty
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Rough day, and it is only 7:30am.
Started off w a roll post so nic is off the table! Some pre HoF funkage might be making itself known.
Might recommend adding another layer of quit defense, meet another KTC member, dive into the fogginess w a newb or go help some geriatric shut in vet.
It may very well be the funk. When will all of this adjusting be over with? Hopefully all will be well after HOF.
Every day is a new battle - keeping your quit a priority and never forget the suck we went through.
Keep pushing yourself and pick up a new challenge...... Stay frosty
Dave,
Hang tough Marine....it will pass. I spoke with SFGE and there are better days ahead....just gotta gut it out. Praying for you, brother.
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Ride's not over....... get some more
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Ride's not over....... get some more
Agreed, congrats on the milestone man! See you back there for another +1 tomorrow.
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Ride's not over....... get some more
Agreed, congrats on the milestone man! See you back there for another +1 tomorrow.
Brother Dave!
Awesome job Marine! Sorry I didn't get around to this until just now, but I wanted to tell you the same thing I told JoeC. You were extremely instrumental in the wee days of my quit.....just knowing there was someone else out there going through the same shit was a tremendous source of strength...I knew I couldn't let you down any more than you'd let me down.
Stay strong, stay Sultan. QLF, EDD. You ARE the Man, the MARINE, THE SULTAN of QUIT!!
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Ride's not over....... get some more
Gotta keep posting. I am sure there will come a day where I will no longer have to post every day to stay quit, but I still have cravings every now and then. I still need that accountability. Someday I will have to stop posting, but today is not the day.
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Ride's not over....... get some more
Agreed, congrats on the milestone man! See you back there for another +1 tomorrow.
Where do we post EDD after our month is up?
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Ride's not over....... get some more
Agreed, congrats on the milestone man! See you back there for another +1 tomorrow.
Brother Dave!
Awesome job Marine! Sorry I didn't get around to this until just now, but I wanted to tell you the same thing I told JoeC. You were extremely instrumental in the wee days of my quit.....just knowing there was someone else out there going through the same shit was a tremendous source of strength...I knew I couldn't let you down any more than you'd let me down.
Stay strong, stay Sultan. QLF, EDD. You ARE the Man, the MARINE, THE SULTAN of QUIT!!
Cav,
I feel ya. It was nice in the early days knowing there were a couple more guys going through the same struggle at the same time. Suffering in unison always makes the struggle seem beatable. If you remember bootcamp, you remember that what helped you get through was the fact that at least 60 more poor bastards had it just as bad as you. Congrats on your quit as well. You were instrumental in keeping me quit. Thank you for being tough when needed and holding the whole group accountable.