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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: cjs238 on April 12, 2011, 02:23:00 PM
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but i would like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but it like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
I still get cravings at day 123. Now they are 2 or 3 times a week instead of all day.
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but it like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
I am working on replacing the dip with gum. After I eat, after morning coffee, driving home, I put a piece of gum in. I may not want it, but I am trying to reteach my mind to think about something else. It is working so far, but damn that is a lot of gum!
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but i would like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
I'm at day 34 and the after eating craves are about the only things left. Especially if it was something spicy like cajun or mexican.
Just you know what to expect now and how to deal with them so just hang tight and power through.
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but i would like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
I'm at day 34 and the after eating craves are about the only things left. Especially if it was something spicy like cajun or mexican.
Just you know what to expect now and how to deal with them so just hang tight and power through.
yea i think powering through is about all i can do. i agree with you though about spicy food. i have been avoiding it because it just makes it worse! sometimes after lunch i will get it pretty bad as well and just find myself starting into space for long periods of time...not being able to think. im getting used to it though. im sure it will get better... i hope it will. im doing much better than i thought i would be. so glad i made this decision.
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Im working on Day 10 of my quit and it's going fairly well so far. Been dipping for about 13 years or so. Needless to say quitting has not been easy but i am in it 100%...I will never chew or smoke again. The withdrawal has mostly gone, but i still get intense cravings (physical as well) after i eat a meal. I would usually pop a dip in right after dinner/lunch. I guess im just wondering if anyone who has gone through this can tell me how long these types of cravings will last. I already went through the primary withdrawal symptoms (i was waking up and my entire bed would be soaked with sweat, etc). Like i said there is nothing in this world that can get me to ever put another dip in my mouth, but it like to feel normal after i eat a meal again at some point! Just don't feel "normal" either without a dip in.
Chris
I am working on replacing the dip with gum. After I eat, after morning coffee, driving home, I put a piece of gum in. I may not want it, but I am trying to reteach my mind to think about something else. It is working so far, but damn that is a lot of gum!
This is what I do except with masterbation instead of gum. The wife is starting to get annoyed. 'crackup' Seriously though, this has worked for me (gum not masterbation). I chew a shitload of gum now. Every time we go to Walmart, I'm buying 2 grocery bags full of gum.
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im finding cinnamon gum to work the best... something about the spicy/burning flavor that helps take the edge off.
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im finding cinnamon gum to work the best... something about the spicy/burning flavor that helps take the edge off.
Fireballs are the shit at that; I read syndromes intro and decided to give them a try round day 50 or so. Wow, talk about a crave killer. Never go anywhere without a few in my pocket now.
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If you're like many of us, you started dipping before your body reached maturity. As such, your body doesn't have any idea what 'normal' is. It will take time before your body rewires itself. The key is to be aware of what is happening and to use the tools you now have to fight it. People use all kinds of things as a substitute: gum, seeds, cinnamon flavored toothpics, mints, etc. Eventually the cravings mostly go away. I still get them from time to time, but for the most part none of my old triggers seem to be an issue anymore. (Well, maybe if I have too much to drink. Avoid that for a while.) How long that will take is anyone's guess. I know you want an easy answer, that after x amount of time everything will be fine, but the reality is that it's different for everyone. Some guys don't seem to have any craves from day one. Others have used a can a day of fake stuff through the first year. Remember that you poisoned your body for 13 years and this is simply the price you must pay to wean yourself from it. It does get better, WAY better. I just can't tell you when bro.
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I'm at Day 216 and driving in traffic and mowing the lawn are still huge triggers. I keep gum and breath mints in the truck. The craves that used to come throughout the day are mostly gone. It definitley will get better.
Stay quit, bro.
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I've been getting muscle twitches somewhat often (never constant though). Was wondering if anyone else has been getting them since their quit day. I also feel like i will go a few days with no quit related problems at all, and then all of a sudden i will get intense cravings that last hours sometimes (along with the fog). sux
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I haven't had muscle twitches per say. My wife says since I quit that I twitch while I sleep. Not sure if that is what you are referring to or not. But sure either way they are both side effects.
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Sounds like nervous twitches, but I'm no doctor. I had them above my left eye for the longest time in the first half of my quit.
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I've been getting muscle twitches somewhat often (never constant though). Was wondering if anyone else has been getting them since their quit day. I also feel like i will go a few days with no quit related problems at all, and then all of a sudden i will get intense cravings that last hours sometimes (along with the fog). sux
My day 6, 7, and so far 8 have been great, but also make me kind of worried. I haven't had much craving at all these days, and it makes me think, "Is it over already? What happened to 100 days?" I'm expecting a battle royal 2 to come along, very reminicent of my day 2 where I almost fell.
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Sounds like nervous twitches, but I'm no doctor. I had them above my left eye for the longest time in the first half of my quit.
Cool! I had them below my right eye on and off for my first couple hundred days.
Spooky.....
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No muscle twitches here but am having trouble swallowing food. It gets stuck in my esophagus. ??? Guess our bodies are trying to relearn how to operate without the nic bitch. Peace
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thx for the responses. muscle twitches are the least of my effin concerns to be honest with you. what bothers me most is that i will go a few days feeling totally great with no cravings or anything, and then BAM i will get nailed with the fog and cravings that wont go away. Im almost three weeks in hopefully these get farther and farther between.
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thx for the responses. muscle twitches are the least of my effin concerns to be honest with you. what bothers me most is that i will go a few days feeling totally great with no cravings or anything, and then BAM i will get nailed with the fog and cravings that wont go away. Im almost three weeks in hopefully these get farther and farther between.
Perfectly normal...this is just something we have to deal with for awhile. Yes, they all of these occurances get fewer and farther between......as long as you stick with this.
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I had a few nervous "tics" when I was growing up, as early as age 11 or 12 or so.....things like popping my knuckles over and over...I stopped doing them in recent years, but after I quit I've been noticing myself doing it a lot more. I think most of us are naturally tuned to deal with stress a certain way. For all of us here, that was throwing in a dip. Now our bodies and our brains have to figure out what to do now, whether it be twitch our eye or pop our knuckles or pop our gum loudly (which is what I tend to do most often). I think it's just an outlet that keeps us from exploding from pent up energy or stress.
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My left eyelid twitched constantly for about three weeks; just about drove me insane. The physical symptoms, twitches, fog, cravings and all of that shit will go away eventually... just keep adding days and it will get better.
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Im trying to figure out what peoples opinions are on using the fake shit. I bought Hooch and have found it to be a huge help during my quit. I am about three weeks in and am doing OK...probably no better or worse than most at three weeks in. I guess im just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the best way to use the fake stuff (from a strategic perspective). I get these major cravings still at three weeks in, and using Hooch really helps...even alleviates the cravings to a certain extent. I guess im really just wondering if my desire to use Hooch will eventually go away or if i will have to "quit" the fake stuff as well. thoughts appreciated. I hope the people at Skoal die. They are all motherfucking cocksuckers.
Chris
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I say chew a few cans a day if you need to! If it helps just chew it. I'm 123 days in and I still throw some in every now and then. I have found that the usage just naturally trails off with time. 3 weeks though don't worry about using it just focus on quitting each day no nicotine and that's what you are doing. Sounds to me like you are doing great! I bet you find as time goes on you'll use less and less, it's not addictive so you are good to go!
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Chris-you crack me up. I really needed that. I'm on Day 5 and the last few days have sucked. As far as the fake stuff. I just wrote about something similar. After 30 years of dipping I am so used to the physical act of dipping that I'm not looking forward to the time when I will eventually have to quit that as well. But for now I am using Smokey Mountain Wintergreen (I sprinkle cayenne pepper on it) and it's better than I thought it would be. It definitely helps. Sorry I didn't answer your question. I guess I am going to follow grimace's advice and just get through each day without nic for the time being and cross the other bridge when I get there. Quit with you. Peace
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it will get better after the first week i promise. I didnt believe it would considering how shitty i felt during week 1 but i did get to a point where it got better and i could actually function as a human. it still sucks big time but i stopped feeling like i was going to die as a result of not dipping any longer after about day 6 or so. it seems to go in waves for me. After week one i have had days where i feel no issues whatsoever and then there are days i want to go on a killing spree (not literally but you get my drift). if i had my choice of who to kill it would be whoever is in charge over at Skoal.
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If you need a point-man for your covert-ops just let me know... Peace
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Im trying to figure out what peoples opinions are on using the fake shit. I bought Hooch and have found it to be a huge help during my quit. I am about three weeks in and am doing OK...probably no better or worse than most at three weeks in. I guess im just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the best way to use the fake stuff (from a strategic perspective). I get these major cravings still at three weeks in, and using Hooch really helps...even alleviates the cravings to a certain extent. I guess im really just wondering if my desire to use Hooch will eventually go away or if i will have to "quit" the fake stuff as well. thoughts appreciated. I hope the people at Skoal die. They are all motherfucking cocksuckers.
Chris
Just passed 100 days and wanted to drop a little knowledge for you. I used the shit out of Smokey Mountain and Hooch for the first couple months. I really think it was 1 of the most important factors for me to reach the HOF. After day 60 or so, my desire for the fake stuff started falling fast. I now have 1 every 3-4 days or so. I just make sure I have a can in my car when I get a big craving. Some days I open my console and feel surprised that I have a can in there.
Like others have said, use it non-stop if that's what's needed to keep you from dipping.
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Im trying to figure out what peoples opinions are on using the fake shit. I bought Hooch and have found it to be a huge help during my quit. I am about three weeks in and am doing OK...probably no better or worse than most at three weeks in. I guess im just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the best way to use the fake stuff (from a strategic perspective). I get these major cravings still at three weeks in, and using Hooch really helps...even alleviates the cravings to a certain extent. I guess im really just wondering if my desire to use Hooch will eventually go away or if i will have to "quit" the fake stuff as well. thoughts appreciated. I hope the people at Skoal die. They are all motherfucking cocksuckers.
Chris
Just passed 100 days and wanted to drop a little knowledge for you. I used the shit out of Smokey Mountain and Hooch for the first couple months. I really think it was 1 of the most important factors for me to reach the HOF. After day 60 or so, my desire for the fake stuff started falling fast. I now have 1 every 3-4 days or so. I just make sure I have a can in my car when I get a big craving. Some days I open my console and feel surprised that I have a can in there.
Like others have said, use it non-stop if that's what's needed to keep you from dipping.
Thanks for that. I'm just over a month in and using Smokey Mtn about as much as I used to use Skoal- like all the time. I didn't have any, didn't even know fake existed for the first 2 weeks of my quit, and it has made ALL the difference!
A sample pack of Smokey Mtn Hooch should be a part of the "Day 1 Quitters Tool Kit". Several 5 gallon buckets of sunflower seeds and 5 lbs of gum should go in there, too.
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Im trying to figure out what peoples opinions are on using the fake shit. I bought Hooch and have found it to be a huge help during my quit. I am about three weeks in and am doing OK...probably no better or worse than most at three weeks in. I guess im just wondering what peoples thoughts are on the best way to use the fake stuff (from a strategic perspective). I get these major cravings still at three weeks in, and using Hooch really helps...even alleviates the cravings to a certain extent. I guess im really just wondering if my desire to use Hooch will eventually go away or if i will have to "quit" the fake stuff as well. thoughts appreciated. I hope the people at Skoal die. They are all motherfucking cocksuckers.
Chris
I used Hooch for the first couple of weeks, then wound up quitting it the same way I quit the real stuff. I ran out, and never bothered to buy more. That may be a bit easier for me though because being deployed, I have to mail order any of the fake stuff.
The fake stuff helped me through my initial cravings and then I used it less and less because it dried out so much faster than the real stuff...who wants a dried up dip in their mouth?
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1) Playing Xbox Call of Duty....with a fatty. For now i can't even play Xbox. Man i love Xbox live.
2) Going to Phillies games (10 year season ticket holder!)....with a huge fatty in. Enjoyed the game this past weekend but it didnt feel "right".
3) Taking a shit... with a huge lipper and spitting between my legs (and of course smelling my own shit). Cant really say i miss that though.
4) Driving to work...with a fat dip. I have a 1 hour commute and for years and years and years i would throw a fatro in and chill behind the wheel. For now my commute sux worse than it already did!
5) Sitting in my office, with my door shut, kicking a lippy for an hour pretending to be on a conference call while i was really searching for the end of the internet.
There is a ton more im sure, but these are the things that stand out the most. Oh yea, as a side note i am on Day 18 and doing OK. During my first week my grandfather died and i had to drive 10 hours to the funeral and 10 hours back with my brother who dips like a mother effer, while grieving, and still stayed clean. I think this site helped me during that weekend...its just nice to know others are going through the same things as me. Fuck Skoal
Chris
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1) Playing Xbox Call of Duty....with a fatty. For now i can't even play Xbox. Man i love Xbox live.
2) Going to Phillies games (10 year season ticket holder!)....with a huge fatty in. Enjoyed the game this past weekend but it didnt feel "right".
3) Taking a shit... with a huge lipper and spitting between my legs (and of course smelling my own shit). Cant really say i miss that though.
4) Driving to work...with a fat dip. I have a 1 hour commute and for years and years and years i would throw a fatro in and chill behind the wheel. For now my commute sux worse than it already did!
5) Sitting in my office, with my door shut, kicking a lippy for an hour pretending to be on a conference call while i was really searching for the end of the internet.
There is a ton more im sure, but these are the things that stand out the most. Oh yea, as a side note i am on Day 18 and doing OK. During my first week my grandfather died and i had to drive 10 hours to the funeral and 10 hours back with my brother who dips like a mother effer, while grieving, and still stayed clean. I think this site helped me during that weekend...its just nice to know others are going through the same things as me. Fuck Skoal
Chris
Funny stuff, Chris - you have made it through the worst I guess - hopefully in time you won't believe the lie that you're missing something - I quit with you today my July brother. Corn
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its funny isnt it? how not dipping makes you feel like you are missing something? What a big fat lie. i quit with you
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ill add one more thing... someone asked me about 3 days in how it feels to go through nicotine withdrawal. My response was "it feels like i am missing something i need to survive... and the worst part is that i could get it right this second if i decided to". of course it does not feel like that now being 18 days in, but at the time that is how i felt. again... just another rant.
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1) Playing Xbox Call of Duty....with a fatty. For now i can't even play Xbox. Man i love Xbox live.
2) Going to Phillies games (10 year season ticket holder!)....with a huge fatty in. Enjoyed the game this past weekend but it didnt feel "right".
3) Taking a shit... with a huge lipper and spitting between my legs (and of course smelling my own shit). Cant really say i miss that though.
4) Driving to work...with a fat dip. I have a 1 hour commute and for years and years and years i would throw a fatro in and chill behind the wheel. For now my commute sux worse than it already did!
5)Â Sitting in my office, with my door shut, kicking a lippy for an hour pretending to be on a conference call while i was really searching for the end of the internet.
There is a ton more im sure, but these are the things that stand out the most. Oh yea, as a side note i am on Day 18 and doing OK. During my first week my grandfather died and i had to drive 10 hours to the funeral and 10 hours back with my brother who dips like a mother effer, while grieving, and still stayed clean. I think this site helped me during that weekend...its just nice to know others are going through the same things as me. Fuck Skoal
Chris
quit fucking romanticizing the time you spent addicted. it's more like that crazy bitch you dated in college. yeah you may have thought you had some good times and hot sex, but the entire time she was secretly fucking your roommate while plotting to kill you and your dog.
sorry to hear about your grandfather....going through that dip free proves you can overcome anything without having to stuff your face.
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I got 2 words for you brother- Smokey Mountain. They'll send you a 5 or 6 can sample pack for $10 and you'll have it in a week.
36 days ago I was a 25 year veteran Skoal Mint man. I was going ape shit bat shit cat shit crazy on sunflower seeds, gum and sugar before I found that stuff. I dipped coffee grounds a couple times. Yeah, coffee grounds.
Smokey Mtn's version of mint aint real close to Skoal... but wintergreen is the shit. And I'll admit, I bought a 10 pack of Grape- it's like friggen candy. Sat in church last week with a little grape, yes I know, I'm probably going to Hell for that.
I'm dead serious dude, but that shit, you wont regret it.
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Things I hate:
Trying to find a place to spit while I'm holding my kids
Having my wife look at me with disgust while I spit
Having to take a shit every hour so I can pack one at work
Having heartburn all the time
Spitting out the window while driving, only to let the wind blow it back in my face
Driving to numerous stores to find cope
Having a panic attack as I have a big meeting and barely a pinch in the tin
Fuck Dip, I was a slave to that bitch for 23 years. You'll come to hate her too in time.
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im diggin the hooch mint. if only the steel tins werent so hard to open
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I'm going through a can of Smokey Mountain a day. I have no idea if this is considered a lot or a little. Peace
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Smokey Mountain Wintergreen (with some cayenne pepper sprinkled on) is really not that bad. And when you consider the alternative... It's really pretty damn good! I'm going through a can a day. Didn't even know about the grape shit. I'll have to try it out. Peace
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
Always there but you can manage them more as time passes.
My wife asked me one day what it is like now that i have been quit for over 100 days. I told her that i think about it every day. It is always there and will never go away. I have to make a promise to myself and everyone here that i will not dip for today, post roll, and live that day. Wake up the next day and repeat.
The nic bitch will always be there waiting for some weak moment. Use your numbers, stay on this site, and post roll every day. Do those three things and you can get through every day and start living your life dip free.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
Always there but you can manage them more as time passes.
My wife asked me one day what it is like now that i have been quit for over 100 days. I told her that i think about it every day. It is always there and will never go away. I have to make a promise to myself and everyone here that i will not dip for today, post roll, and live that day. Wake up the next day and repeat.
The nic bitch will always be there waiting for some weak moment. Use your numbers, stay on this site, and post roll every day. Do those three things and you can get through every day and start living your life dip free.
Day 135. Still an addict. Still have cravings. Still quit. I can handle them easier though.
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The cravings will last the rest of your life.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
Dipped Skoal every waking hour for 20+ years.
39 days off the stuff. After the first week, every day seems a little better, but expect a few massive out of the blue tsunamis of craves. Don't give in no matter what, and it will get better.
I should also mention I'm taking Chantix, which helps a lot.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
I'm not an expert, but my theory is that YES, there will come a day when you go weeks or even months without thinking about it. That time is likely a LONG ways away. It varies for everyone, but the day will come. You'll always be an addict, but 10 years from now, you won't be dwelling on nicotene like you are today.
I am on day 215 and I can tell you that the craves are fewer, farther between and much less intense. I still believe I have a shorter temper, more anger and am a bit more anxious, but I am slowing learning how to deal with those emotions and things are improving. I hid behind a can a skoal for 20 years :), now I must learn how to deal more appropriately with people and my feelings towards them.
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The cravings pass faster and happen less but the fact is they still happen. I've stopped using so many times in the past and always ended up right back using again. This time I am quit and there is a big difference that wasn't obvious to me those past times. The only way for me to beat this is to go into my group every day and quit with all those guys again. I might have a few days where I don't think of it at all and then bam, major craving out of nowhere. They will become less but the bitch is lurking always just waiting for you to slip up. Maybe you're thinking to yourself "ah, I've gone so far I can handle just one or I deserve just one" I can tell you that's the bitch talking, she wants back in! Fight thru they will get less and they will get easier to manage but NEVER let your guard down or you'll be like me quit for over 200 days and fell for the just one logic. Buy hey, I"m trainable that's why I'm here! If you need any help let me know.
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I'm on day 9 and haven't noticed too many cravings, the first few days I had a ton, not so much the last few. A combination of busy work and substitute (hooch) seems to be working well for me right now. knock on wood.
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Good question, but with a wretched answer: I honestly can't see going weeks without thinking about dip. Hasn't happened yet, at least. Not even close. I have yet to go a day without thinking about tobacco.
But thinking about it is much different than a run-of-the-mill craving, and a run-of-the-mill craving is certainly different than the down-right fiending I experienced several weeks into my quit.
The moral of the story is this: I AM A GOD. I will beat the bitch into submission for eternity, no matter what. That's my decision.
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I'm on day 25 and i'm craving right now, so i jumped on the forum to fight the crave.
middle afternoon lull - after lunch, at work, a few hours before headed home used to be prime dipping time, now I'm writing you to make sure that you don't cave with the crave...but really I'm doing it for me too!
so, that being said, if i'm fighting this crave and the many to come, so can you.
sorry for the vent on your thread!
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I'm on day 25 and i'm craving right now, so i jumped on the forum to fight the crave.
middle afternoon lull - after lunch, at work, a few hours before headed home used to be prime dipping time, now I'm writing you to make sure that you don't cave with the crave...but really I'm doing it for me too!
so, that being said, if i'm fighting this crave and the many to come, so can you.
sorry for the vent on your thread!
Me, too. That's why I'm here right now. Working the Quit... Better this than caving. Peace
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
I'm not an expert, but my theory is that YES, there will come a day when you go weeks or even months without thinking about it. That time is likely a LONG ways away. It varies for everyone, but the day will come. You'll always be an addict, but 10 years from now, you won't be dwelling on nicotene like you are today.
I am on day 215 and I can tell you that the craves are fewer, farther between and much less intense. I still believe I have a shorter temper, more anger and am a bit more anxious, but I am slowing learning how to deal with those emotions and things are improving. I hid behind a can a skoal for 20 years :), now I must learn how to deal more appropriately with people and my feelings towards them.
I have to hold on to a hope that at some point down the road there will come a day when i don't think about dip, don't get massive craves after i eat a meal, or find myself staring into space unable to concentrate on anything at all. I think beating this thing one day at a time is the only way for me. Regardless of whether its true or not, i have to believe that it will get better and i will return to "normal" at some point in my life. I just wish it would happen faster.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
I'm not an expert, but my theory is that YES, there will come a day when you go weeks or even months without thinking about it. That time is likely a LONG ways away. It varies for everyone, but the day will come. You'll always be an addict, but 10 years from now, you won't be dwelling on nicotene like you are today.
I am on day 215 and I can tell you that the craves are fewer, farther between and much less intense. I still believe I have a shorter temper, more anger and am a bit more anxious, but I am slowing learning how to deal with those emotions and things are improving. I hid behind a can a skoal for 20 years :), now I must learn how to deal more appropriately with people and my feelings towards them.
I have to hold on to a hope that at some point down the road there will come a day when i don't think about dip, don't get massive craves after i eat a meal, or find myself staring into space unable to concentrate on anything at all. I think beating this thing one day at a time is the only way for me. Regardless of whether its true or not, i have to believe that it will get better and i will return to "normal" at some point in my life. I just wish it would happen faster.
I was on the nic for about 14 years too. It took about six months for the cravings to really fade into the background. I'm at 835 days today and never crave. I'll get an occasional thought, but it's not really a craving, more like "I used to want a dip at times like these... I'm reall thankful I can spend time with my family rather than sneaking off for a dip". I go weeks at a time without thinking about tobacco (other than logging on to this site and posting roll), and when I do I use it as an opportunity to appreciate my freedom from it.
As teaka mentioned, short temper can be an issue. I had anger issues long after the cravings had faded away. That has gone away now too. Just another thing to be aware of as you find your way out of this mess; try not to be too much of a dick to those around you.
My approach to getting to a point where I don't think about nicotine: keep putting days between you and nic, and don't dwell on it too much. Learn to think about something else because nicotine doesn't matter anymore. It's not really like running away from the craving or shutting it out; more like accepting that it exists and then dismissing it because it's irrelevant. It's tough at first, but with practice it becomes second nature to think like a 'normal' person.... On the other hand, I think it would be possible to keep the cravings going on forever if you allow yourself to obsess over it.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
I'm not an expert, but my theory is that YES, there will come a day when you go weeks or even months without thinking about it. That time is likely a LONG ways away. It varies for everyone, but the day will come. You'll always be an addict, but 10 years from now, you won't be dwelling on nicotene like you are today.
I am on day 215 and I can tell you that the craves are fewer, farther between and much less intense. I still believe I have a shorter temper, more anger and am a bit more anxious, but I am slowing learning how to deal with those emotions and things are improving. I hid behind a can a skoal for 20 years :), now I must learn how to deal more appropriately with people and my feelings towards them.
I have to hold on to a hope that at some point down the road there will come a day when i don't think about dip, don't get massive craves after i eat a meal, or find myself staring into space unable to concentrate on anything at all. I think beating this thing one day at a time is the only way for me. Regardless of whether its true or not, i have to believe that it will get better and i will return to "normal" at some point in my life. I just wish it would happen faster.
I was on the nic for about 14 years too. It took about six months for the cravings to really fade into the background. I'm at 835 days today and never crave. I'll get an occasional thought, but it's not really a craving, more like "I used to want a dip at times like these... I'm reall thankful I can spend time with my family rather than sneaking off for a dip". I go weeks at a time without thinking about tobacco (other than logging on to this site and posting roll), and when I do I use it as an opportunity to appreciate my freedom from it.
As teaka mentioned, short temper can be an issue. I had anger issues long after the cravings had faded away. That has gone away now too. Just another thing to be aware of as you find your way out of this mess; try not to be too much of a dick to those around you.
My approach to getting to a point where I don't think about nicotine: keep putting days between you and nic, and don't dwell on it too much. Learn to think about something else because nicotine doesn't matter anymore. It's not really like running away from the craving or shutting it out; more like accepting that it exists and then dismissing it because it's irrelevant. It's tough at first, but with practice it becomes second nature to think like a 'normal' person.... On the other hand, I think it would be possible to keep the cravings going on forever if you allow yourself to obsess over it.
Here is my .02 on the subject.
I do not crave like I used to. I do still have the occasional crave pop up but nothing like it used to be. I was like you early on and wanted the bad shit to end so I could enjoy all these good things I kept hearing everyone talk about.
My first 200 days sucked ass. There was an occasional good day tossed in there to keep me going but for the most part it sucked. Crazy ass anxiety, mood swings, craves etc. I just focused on the minute if I needed to, anything to keep dip out of my face.
Around day 200 there was a huge shift in my quit. I stopped using fake, my anxiety diminshed, the craves went away. I can tell you now I feel better than I have in years. I spent most of my teenage years and all of my adult years addicted to Nicotine so I am not sure what normal really is.
I know how I feel now and it is GREAT. 544 days in, as I say the occasional crave pops up but is quickly turned away when I ask myself " Do you really want to throw away how you feel now?". Just keep posting and stay clean, the good days are coming. You have to believe that and be willing to fight to get there....
STAY QUIT
Greg
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i'm up over 120 days now, and for me i may get to a day or two without thinking about dip at all... but the next day i will still be thinking about it like a mofo. about how easy it still would be if i stopped off at the store and picked up a can.
but every day i tell myself i'm growing my quit total by one day, and i stick by that.
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Im just curious how long i can expect to deal with cravings and related shit for. i am only on day 21 and chewed for about 14 years or so. i know im a total addict and will have to forever be alert and keep my Quit guarded, but i guess im just wondering if you ever get to a point where you can live weeks, months, etc without thinking about dip. Any insight from major veterans appreciated.
thx
I'm not an expert, but my theory is that YES, there will come a day when you go weeks or even months without thinking about it. That time is likely a LONG ways away. It varies for everyone, but the day will come. You'll always be an addict, but 10 years from now, you won't be dwelling on nicotene like you are today.
I am on day 215 and I can tell you that the craves are fewer, farther between and much less intense. I still believe I have a shorter temper, more anger and am a bit more anxious, but I am slowing learning how to deal with those emotions and things are improving. I hid behind a can a skoal for 20 years :), now I must learn how to deal more appropriately with people and my feelings towards them.
I have to hold on to a hope that at some point down the road there will come a day when i don't think about dip, don't get massive craves after i eat a meal, or find myself staring into space unable to concentrate on anything at all. I think beating this thing one day at a time is the only way for me. Regardless of whether its true or not, i have to believe that it will get better and i will return to "normal" at some point in my life. I just wish it would happen faster.
I was on the nic for about 14 years too. It took about six months for the cravings to really fade into the background. I'm at 835 days today and never crave. I'll get an occasional thought, but it's not really a craving, more like "I used to want a dip at times like these... I'm reall thankful I can spend time with my family rather than sneaking off for a dip". I go weeks at a time without thinking about tobacco (other than logging on to this site and posting roll), and when I do I use it as an opportunity to appreciate my freedom from it.
As teaka mentioned, short temper can be an issue. I had anger issues long after the cravings had faded away. That has gone away now too. Just another thing to be aware of as you find your way out of this mess; try not to be too much of a dick to those around you.
My approach to getting to a point where I don't think about nicotine: keep putting days between you and nic, and don't dwell on it too much. Learn to think about something else because nicotine doesn't matter anymore. It's not really like running away from the craving or shutting it out; more like accepting that it exists and then dismissing it because it's irrelevant. It's tough at first, but with practice it becomes second nature to think like a 'normal' person.... On the other hand, I think it would be possible to keep the cravings going on forever if you allow yourself to obsess over it.
Here is my .02 on the subject.
I do not crave like I used to. I do still have the occasional crave pop up but nothing like it used to be. I was like you early on and wanted the bad shit to end so I could enjoy all these good things I kept hearing everyone talk about.
My first 200 days sucked ass. There was an occasional good day tossed in there to keep me going but for the most part it sucked. Crazy ass anxiety, mood swings, craves etc. I just focused on the minute if I needed to, anything to keep dip out of my face.
Around day 200 there was a huge shift in my quit. I stopped using fake, my anxiety diminshed, the craves went away. I can tell you now I feel better than I have in years. I spent most of my teenage years and all of my adult years addicted to Nicotine so I am not sure what normal really is.
I know how I feel now and it is GREAT. 544 days in, as I say the occasional crave pops up but is quickly turned away when I ask myself " Do you really want to throw away how you feel now?". Just keep posting and stay clean, the good days are coming. You have to believe that and be willing to fight to get there....
STAY QUIT
Greg
Glad to hear there is hope in terms of getting back to "normalcy"... i will not cave and will keep on pushing through all this. I will never dip again and that is a promise. My temper has been bad though and i really only recently started to realize it. The hardest part about this whole thing has been trying to get people close to me to understand that this addiction isnt something you kick in a few weeks and suddenly you feel great. People who have not been addicted to nicotine do not understand that...at least not those in my inner circle at least. That is no excuse to be a dick to those close to me, but its just been a struggle i guess. I know that in the long run i will be healthier and will feel better and for that i am thankful.
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I noticed your roll call, I'm right there with you. the last few days have been really rough for my temper and my attention span. functioning at anything would be a huge win right now.
it has to get better. good luck cjs. we'll get through this together and with July KTC
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Me, too. I have to check myself and remember that the people around me are not to blame for my addiction. I tried to explain this to my girlfriend and even though she wanted to understand there was still that somewhat vacant look in her eyes. She has never used nicotine in any form. Really, how could she possibly understand? That's the great thing about this place. Here, everyone gets it. We are Quit together. Peace
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God I would love to go back in time and kick my ass! I wish there would have been someone there to talk some sense into me. But my dumb luck I had a dad that dipped and all of my friends did as well. Misery loves company...and they welcome everyone!!!
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Me, too. I have to check myself and remember that the people around me are not to blame for my addiction. I tried to explain this to my girlfriend and even though she wanted to understand there was still that somewhat vacant look in her eyes. She has never used nicotine in any form. Really, how could she possibly understand? That's the great thing about this place. Here, everyone gets it. We are Quit together. Peace
yep...my girlfriend has that same vacant look in her eyes as well. Nothing i say to her will make her understand. It's just not possible. Going through this makes me realize how stupid it is for someone who has never been addicted to nicotine to try and council others on how to quit. pretty hilarious actually
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I am on day 62 of my quit and things have been going about as good as can be expected. I have gotten a few very small sores here and there but nothing that worried me. A few weeks back i started to feel what i would describe as a small bubble, blister, or circular area of loose skin on the roof of my mouth very close to my top front teeth (behind the teeth). At first i did not think much of it, but over a week or so it turned into what i guess i would call small crater that feels smooth. I am freaking the f*ck out to be perfectly honest...and my anxiety over this is through the roof. I never got any ulcers or anything while i was dipping. This thing is not painful and it has not gotten any bigger but it just does not seem to want to heal. It seems like a really unusual place to get a sore like this. I would say it has been in its current state for maybe two weeks or so. I was just wondering if anyone else has experience anything similar after quitting.
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I am on day 62 of my quit and things have been going about as good as can be expected. I have gotten a few very small sores here and there but nothing that worried me. A few weeks back i started to feel what i would describe as a small bubble, blister, or circular area of loose skin on the roof of my mouth very close to my top front teeth (behind the teeth). At first i did not think much of it, but over a week or so it turned into what i guess i would call small crater that feels smooth. I am freaking the f*ck out to be perfectly honest...and my anxiety over this is through the roof. I never got any ulcers or anything while i was dipping. This thing is not painful and it has not gotten any bigger but it just does not seem to want to heal. It seems like a really unusual place to get a sore like this. I would say it has been in its current state for maybe two weeks or so. I was just wondering if anyone else has experience anything similar after quitting.
While no doctor I can tell you that for the first 6 months I was constantly having something going on. My thought is if it bothers you, go see the doctor and get an answer. Let him know you quit dipping, you will feel a lot better.
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I am on day 62 of my quit and things have been going about as good as can be expected. I have gotten a few very small sores here and there but nothing that worried me. A few weeks back i started to feel what i would describe as a small bubble, blister, or circular area of loose skin on the roof of my mouth very close to my top front teeth (behind the teeth). At first i did not think much of it, but over a week or so it turned into what i guess i would call small crater that feels smooth. I am freaking the f*ck out to be perfectly honest...and my anxiety over this is through the roof. I never got any ulcers or anything while i was dipping. This thing is not painful and it has not gotten any bigger but it just does not seem to want to heal. It seems like a really unusual place to get a sore like this. I would say it has been in its current state for maybe two weeks or so. I was just wondering if anyone else has experience anything similar after quitting.
While no doctor I can tell you that for the first 6 months I was constantly having something going on. My thought is if it bothers you, go see the doctor and get an answer. Let him know you quit dipping, you will feel a lot better.
Sean Marsee died because he waited to go to the doctor. There is no reason to not get it checked out. If it is nothing you'll have relief, if it is something then you need to give yourself a fighting chance. Mouth cancer can spread quickly so if your concerned don't screw with it. GET IT CHECKED!! You were strong enough to quit , so now follow through
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Go see the doc if you get worried about any sores. I'm not gonna let the anxiety eat me up brother and neither should you.
Peace of mind is priceless....as is early detection.
See ODT's story - http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
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i made a doc appointment. i hope its nothing. please keep your fingers crossed. i will be so pissed if after quitting i get hit with something.
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Way to take the initiative to get in there brother. Make sure an come back here and fill us in on the docs analysis.
Stay strong man, it's probably nothing but you are going to feel like a million bucks when you hear it from the doc!
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Hopefully, it's nothing at all. Glad you're going to the doctor. Always better to be safe than sorry. I will be praying for you.
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Stay positive hoss. I'll keep you in my prayers.
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I appreciate all the supportive comments...i really do. Its a pretty bad feeling to have to go to the doctor to have them look at your mouth like a freaking detective, but im hopeful it is nothing and i will get some peace of mind. i hope
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Hang in there bro.
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Hang in there cj, its probably nothing, BUT YOU CAN BET IT IS A WAKEUP CALL TO GET OFF THE SHIT!!!! Hell of a risk! Quit one day at a time! Nicofiend
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CJ, hang in there... Everyone is right.. better safe than sorry... Had an experience with that at 14 days in and still kind of have it...Needless to say, it FREAKED me out until I found out what it was. Mine turned out to be a mucocele.. ( small bump, looks like a clear-bluish blister.. kinda soft ) I had damaged a salivary gland, pinched it.. so my saliva was building up inside there like a blister.. Doc said it will go away.. If not, would be a quick fix with some minor surgery to remove it.... So, hopefully this is something similar for ya.. Hang tight, think positive, get to the doctor, and be glad you are quit!!
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Just got back from the doctor (doctors actually). I went to my family physician in the morning and got looked at by both the internal and the attending physician. Both of them thought that i had nothing to be concerned about, but in lieu of my history with dip they referred me to an ENT practice to get some more experienced eyes. Luckily the ENT doc could see me early afternoon. i did not eat lunch i was so nervous. At the end of the day the ENT folks did a thorough check of my mouth, tongue, etc and concluded that everything looked great. As far as the sore on the roof of my mouth goes, they were not concerned about it and told me that it looked like nothing. Probably some minor trauma that got irritated and has not healed properly. The color is fine and nothing to be worried about. I am glad i went because they did a real thorough check of my mouth and gave me a clean bill. I had never done that before...was always too afraid of what they might find. I was so freaked out during all this today that my blood pressure actually shot up noticeably. The ENT doc understood... he told me a few stories that made me even more resolute in my quit. One was about a guy who had leukoplacia all around his lip like a full horse shoe. They were actually surprised that i had quit and was in there for a post quit checkup. They said most people they see are acitve users and havent been able to toss the can. Anyway, thanks for the thoughts and prayers. every day that goes by i am more glad to be quit.
chris
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Great frickin' news man!!!!!!!
Now get on with quitting!
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Man that's great to hear Chris.
Makes me want to go to an ENT doc for a post quit check-up. Just because.
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Right on dude...I feel like I should say congratulations on your clean bill of health, but something about that seems a little off, lol...congratulations...you tried to give yourself cancer and you failed...By no means am I making light of your current or past situation, I have had a couple of unexplained sores in my mouth in the past and the anxiety is enough to almost kill you. So, I'm just posting up to tell you that I'm glad that your current rollercoaster ride has ended.. I know I never want to ride that bitch again, I'm sure you don't either.
AceInTheHole
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Great news and thanks for posting roll. Worried all weekend about you. Stay quit with you.
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Heck yeah, great news! One less monkey on your back. I've vowed to get my mouth checked out once a year and anytime there is a sore that lasts longer than two weeks.
Proud to be quit with ya and stay strong brother!
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Happy to hear it went well. God bless and stay QUIT.
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Chris - Great news broski - Glad you can be at peace on this one - Praise God for the blessings - Corn
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Great News Chris!!!
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Chris: Glad to hear the good report! Let this be a wake up call! STAY QUIT!!!
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AWESOME!!!
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I think we all just took a big sigh of relief for you. Quit on!!
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That is great news. I have had multiple fears in the past. I had my regular six month dental check up last week and pointed a couple trouble spots from the past and nothing going on. So that was good news.
I asked a good freidn of mine who is a dentist this question: if I were to quit today, what are the chances I would get mouth cancer. His answer: negligible.
So another reason to stay quit. Still there are studies that says these things can come back years later. I have had my lipped burned off four times from sun damage. I don't need anything inside the mouth. Keep your regular denatl appointment and make sure they check for oral cancer.
Whjile we are on the subject of oral cancer, believe it or not, oral sex is a bigger threat than dip if the partner has veneral warts. Life really sucks, doesn't it?