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Title: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 05, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
Wow, I can't believe I'm finally at this point. HOLY CRAP!!!! Enough already.
I'm 44 now. I Met the bitch when I was 14. SKOAL. Walking home after school, I remember having to lay down in the middle of the Football field because I was spinning so bad. I didn't really like it and slowly started smoking, and drinking.
In those days you just bought your shit from a vending machine.
At the 10 yr point of my marriage I was drinking way too much. Smoking way too much. and hit my bottom. I quit drinking and smoking cold. Aug. 15th will be 8 yrs. sober. Been married 18 yrs. now. and a wonderful son (5YR).
Unfortunately, I picked up the copenhagen to get me through it. I told myself it was temporary, and I could quit at will. Well almost 8 yrs. later and I tried to quit how many times. Last year I went 8 months without dipping and caved. Just that one dip fucked it up. I regret that dip. I've had the bitch in my system one way or another for 30 years. but this time it's different. I know what I have to do. Keep it simply and keep support.
This time it's different, this time I AM Quit. FUCK YOU BITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: sporticus on August 05, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
Welcome! You came to the right place. I was on the shit for 15 years. Tried quitting many times, but never made it past a week. Been off for 3 weeks now and I'm feeling great. This group will get you through. If my weak willed ass can do it, so can you.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Kubrick on August 05, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
Welcome. It sounds like you are ready to quit. And know that you are an addict and can't ever have "just one" again. Just like the alcohol. It's pretty simple, post roll every day promising not to use and repeat the next day. One day at time is all it takes.

Looks like you already posted roll. I'll see you tomorrow.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 05, 2012, 01:03:00 PM
Bare with me while I figure out if I'm posting correctly. One day at a time. Like the idea of posting everyday. Kinda gives you that responsibility. 'Finger'
This icon is hilarious. It's me! Happy go lucky one minute, to fuck off!!!
I truly believe I finally found the culprit. Nicotine. It actually makes me moody.
When I didn't chew last year I was so calm. I Welcome that feeling again.
and as I type, I can feel that poison leaving my system....
aloha
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Ready on August 05, 2012, 02:05:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Bare with me while I figure out if I'm posting correctly. One day at a time. Like the idea of posting everyday. Kinda gives you that responsibility. 'Finger'
This icon is hilarious. It's me! Happy go lucky one minute, to fuck off!!!
I truly believe I finally found the culprit. Nicotine. It actually makes me moody.
When I didn't chew last year I was so calm. I Welcome that feeling again.
and as I type, I can feel that poison leaving my system....
aloha
I see you have posted roll today. Well done.

Keep your word.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 05, 2012, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: Ready
Quote from: kana
Bare with me while I figure out if I'm posting correctly. One day at a time. Like the idea of posting everyday. Kinda gives you that responsibility.  'Finger'
This icon is hilarious. It's me! Happy go lucky one minute, to fuck off!!!
I truly believe I finally found the culprit. Nicotine. It actually makes me moody.
When I didn't chew last year I was so calm. I Welcome that feeling again.
and as I type, I can feel that poison leaving my system....
aloha
I see you have posted roll today. Well done.

Keep your word.
Kana, I get what you say. I went to a wellness exam with my doctor. I had them chec my testosterone levels because I am so calm. My levels are higher than average...must be no nicotine. I love being calm.

Still wondering why the prostate exam left me without a care in the world??

Welcome to the madhouse!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: 30yraddict on August 06, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
Wecome Kana,

Check your inbox(1)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 06, 2012, 09:12:00 PM
Ok, going through this process makes me think , I'm a thinker. Last year when I didn't chew for 8 months I was using nic gum. What a fucking idiot. That whole time was just a mirage. I was getting in arguments and snapping easily. That nic shit was still in my system the whole time. and I did cave, so nic gum doesn't work.. not for me anyway... 2 days in and I feel holy shit better!! I can feel the last traces in my system, I can still taste it. but tomorrow is day 3 and hopefully it'll all be gone. Sorry, don't mean to knock those who use the gum, but If you crutch the gum you're not truly quit.
aloha
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 06, 2012, 09:52:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Ok, going through this process makes me think , I'm a thinker. Last year when I didn't chew for 8 months I was using nic gum. What a fucking idiot. That whole time was just a mirage. I was getting in arguments and snapping easily. That nic shit was still in my system the whole time. and I did cave, so nic gum doesn't work.. not for me anyway... 2 days in and I feel holy shit better!! I can feel the last traces in my system, I can still taste it. but tomorrow is day 3 and hopefully it'll all be gone. Sorry, don't mean to knock those who use the gum, but If you crutch the gum you're not truly quit.
aloha
Kana,

Knock them all you want with me! Glad to read your posts!

Quit with you my friend.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 01:22:00 AM
What's the point of live chat if you're basically told to leave? What is someone supposed to do if they need to talk, and the boys in the live chat click tell you to talk to your own group. Am I missing something? I didn't see any hours of operation for my group to use live chat. I have thick skin and can take anything dished out. All that matters to me is my quit. Don't worry I won't use the live chat anymore. You'll just see my days go up. Who ever told me to find my zen can fuck off. My Zen is strong as a fucking rock. I've had 2 beers in my fridge since I quit drinking almost 8 yrs. ago. I left them there so I could see my enemy every day and say fuck you. My Zen is fucking ferocious.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Bruce on August 11, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
Quote from: kana
What's the point of live chat if you're basically told to leave? What is someone supposed to do if they need to talk, and the boys in the live chat click tell you to talk to your own group. Am I missing something? I didn't see any hours of operation for my group to use live chat. I have thick skin and can take anything dished out. All that matters to me is my quit. Don't worry I won't use the live chat anymore. You'll just see my days go up. Who ever told me to find my zen can fuck off. My Zen is strong as a fucking rock. I've had 2 beers in my fridge since I quit drinking almost 8 yrs. ago. I left them there so I could see my enemy every day and say fuck you. My Zen is fucking ferocious.
Nice rage Kana, but if you would've stayed longer and not ran, you would've saw that he was asking you if you found your quit group and asking if you were posting roll. No one told you to leave, no one asked you to leave, and unless you were in whisper mode, everyone was being supportive. Next time, rage on us there, hell, tell the next dude that says Zen to fuck off (just make sure it's not a name in red, red means they're on their period and WILL boot you). Day 6, onto day 7 Kana, come back to chat anytime
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: bigwhitebeast on August 11, 2012, 01:32:00 AM
Quote from: kana
What's the point of live chat if you're basically told to leave? What is someone supposed to do if they need to talk, and the boys in the live chat click tell you to talk to your own group. Am I missing something? I didn't see any hours of operation for my group to use live chat. I have thick skin and can take anything dished out. All that matters to me is my quit. Don't worry I won't use the live chat anymore. You'll just see my days go up. Who ever told me to find my zen can fuck off. My Zen is strong as a fucking rock. I've had 2 beers in my fridge since I quit drinking almost 8 yrs. ago. I left them there so I could see my enemy every day and say fuck you. My Zen is fucking ferocious.
Wow kana I was there, I didn't see anyone ask you to leave or tell you not to be there. I think they may have been telling you that you need to make contact with people from your group, they should be your tightest knit group, it had nothing to do with you being in chat.

As far as the Zen thing that was a joker being a joker but you just scooted out before anything could be said or clarified. Skin ain't that thick because I honestly didn't see anything that should have driven you out.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 01:41:00 AM
No Thanks, I'm one of those old geezers that prefers to keep it simple. Red name or not, we're all on our period who cares. I'm very simple I don't consume nicotine anymore. with or without the site. I've been in the chat room before, and it's basically like your ignored. I guess it's just not for me. All I can say is watch my #'s, because I gave my word, and my word is all I have.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: bigwhitebeast on August 11, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
Quote from: kana
No Thanks, I'm one of those old geezers that prefers to keep it simple. Red name or not, we're all on our period who cares. I'm very simple I don't consume nicotine anymore. with or without the site. I've been in the chat room before, and it's basically like your ignored. I guess it's just not for me. All I can say is watch my #'s, because I gave my word, and my word is all I have.
Wow man, you are younger than me!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Bruce on August 11, 2012, 02:05:00 AM
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Quote from: kana
No Thanks, I'm one of those old geezers that prefers to keep it simple. Red name or not, we're all on our period who cares. I'm very simple I don't consume nicotine anymore. with or without the site. I've been in the chat room before, and it's basically like your ignored. I guess it's just not for me. All I can say is watch my #'s, because I gave my word, and my word is all I have.
Wow man, you are younger than me!
It's all good man, if it's not your cup of tea it's not your cup of tea. Chat is just another tool offered by ktc, use whatever you need to to stay quit. As long as you keep posting roll and keep quit, you're good here
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jrws on August 11, 2012, 05:11:00 AM
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Quote from: kana
No Thanks, I'm one of those old geezers that prefers to keep it simple. Red name or not, we're all on our period who cares. I'm very simple I don't consume nicotine anymore. with or without the site. I've been in the chat room before, and it's basically like your ignored. I guess it's just not for me. All I can say is watch my #'s, because I gave my word, and my word is all I have.
Wow man, you are younger than me!
It's all good man, if it's not your cup of tea it's not your cup of tea. Chat is just another tool offered by ktc, use whatever you need to to stay quit. As long as you keep posting roll and keep quit, you're good here
You are kinda lucky in a way. I say just enough stupid stuff on my quit group's page they are always trying to push me into that chat room. Being a defiant addict to the utmost, I keep posting stupid stuff in my group and not going to the chat room.

:) - being a pain in the ass can be simple fun too.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on August 11, 2012, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: kana
What's the point of live chat if you're basically told to leave? What is someone supposed to do if they need to talk, and the boys in the live chat click tell you to talk to your own group. Am I missing something? I didn't see any hours of operation for my group to use live chat. I have thick skin and can take anything dished out. All that matters to me is my quit. Don't worry I won't use the live chat anymore. You'll just see my days go up. Who ever told me to find my zen can fuck off. My Zen is strong as a fucking rock. I've had 2 beers in my fridge since I quit drinking almost 8 yrs. ago. I left them there so I could see my enemy every day and say fuck you. My Zen is fucking ferocious.
I love the spirit, but this statement gives me pause.

Are you implying that you have "a trophy can"? If you are, I would suggest tossing it. It's never been a good idea for many that have plodded this path before you, and I doubt you are different in that regard.

You can do this man. It's quite common to rage early in a quit. Hell, I was pushed a few times and was so angry I was in tears. It's because your brain knows how fucking serious you are with this quitting, and it's trying to separate you from success. It knows that as long as you are here, you will be quit.

Keep up the great work. 7 days is fucking wonderful and badass, but it is a drop in the bucket compared to how many days you sat around using. 7 days will give you some great perspective when you throw down some knowledge to somebody quitting today because you just went through it, but you've still got to battle this thing on.

There's plenty of stoppers that find petty reasons to stay aloof from the site. They fade quickly, and they usually come back here to post a day 1 again in the future.

Each aspect of this site is another gun in your arsenal that we are carrying into battle each day. It is our responsibility and privilege to pull the trigger on each when necessary. Some days, the nic bitch lies in wait. Other days, she launches a full scale attack. Don't toss one aside and say you don't need it just because you don't like the kickback.

You'll never "have this" just like I'll never "have this". It's why I am still here posting roll on day 409.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
My bad, sometimes I tend to leave out info. They aren't the same 2 beers. I always keep 2 cans for guests. Mainly for my alcoholic brother in law. (I've been working him for years) It's not like a trophy, it's just nice to know you can resist in your face temptation. When I quit drinking that was that.
The same goes for the chew. Once I make up my mind it's in concrete.
I'm not saying I won't have difficult times, but this dumbass knows my life is better without it.
I appreciate the kind words. Last night I was definitely feeling the quit and did rage a little, but most importantly I went to bed instead of the corner store.
smile :)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on August 11, 2012, 09:54:00 AM
Quote from: kana
My bad, sometimes I tend to leave out info. They aren't the same 2 beers. I always keep 2 cans for guests. Mainly for my alcoholic brother in law. (I've been working him for years) It's not like a trophy, it's just nice to know you can resist in your face temptation. When I quit drinking that was that.
The same goes for the chew. Once I make up my mind it's in concrete.
I'm not saying I won't have difficult times, but this dumbass knows my life is better without it.
I appreciate the kind words. Last night I was definitely feeling the quit and did rage a little, but most importantly I went to bed instead of the corner store.
smile :)
OK...Just making sure that you don't have any cans lying around because that can be a really bad idea.

Nicotine is no longer an option in my life as well. However, I can't promise that I am done forever. That's too long of a commitment and I can easily lose myself in the infinity. So I worry more about today. When tomorrow comes, I'll worry about it then. That's why I post roll one day at a time.

Keep up the good work man, and keep up the battle.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 10:34:00 AM
Ya no cans around. I found the last empty one when I took out the garbage few days ago. Was nice seeing that thing go out.
I will have to take it one day at a time, it's the only way I know this, but I have to say never again. Each day I wake up, tell myself never again, post roll go for walk, bla bla bla. I'm re-programming.
Yes you're right NEVER can be daunting, or endless but my point is that once the time has past, and I do mean time, you won't even think about it anymore.
thats when part of your body with have balance, then just need to balance the rest.
I can truly say I 'm close to complete balance in my life, this is my last dark path, and I'm glad to walk down it with all of you!
Thanks again for reaching out.
Dan
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 11:06:00 AM
Day 7, I'm doing good. Had a bout with myself last night. Probably stayed up too late and needed to fill the void. I'm glad to say I made it to home plate.
On a side note, KTC has me hooked. I've burnt my sons toast the last 3 days haha. I start reading and can't pull away until I smell something burning. making some friends, staying strong.... i'm quit
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Souliman on August 11, 2012, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Day 7, I'm doing good. Had a bout with myself last night. Probably stayed up too late and needed to fill the void. I'm glad to say I made it to home plate.
On a side note, KTC has me hooked. I've burnt my sons toast the last 3 days haha. I start reading and can't pull away until I smell something burning. making some friends, staying strong.... i'm quit
Better to burn toast then cancer burning a hole in your lip.

Nice work on a week bro. Try to keep it to one intro thread bud so folks can read your story in one place. Mine reads like a steamy novel of lust and quit.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
Ok thanks, so If I need to post something new I just reply to this thread like so?
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Morgan1 on August 11, 2012, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Ok thanks, so If I need to post something new I just reply to this thread like so?
Yup. Just hit "add reply" to stay on the same thread. Hit "Quote" to stay on the same text within the same thread. You don't need to create a new intro everytime. Check your inbox.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 11, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: kana
Ok thanks, so If I need to post something new I just reply to this thread like so?
Yup. Just hit "add reply" to stay on the same thread. Hit "Quote" to stay on the same text within the same thread. You don't need to create a new intro everytime. Check your inbox.
Ok thanks!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on August 12, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Ya no cans around. I found the last empty one when I took out the garbage few days ago. Was nice seeing that thing go out.
I will have to take it one day at a time, it's the only way I know this, but I have to say never again. Each day I wake up, tell myself never again, post roll go for walk, bla bla bla. I'm re-programming.
Yes you're right NEVER can be daunting, or endless but my point is that once the time has past, and I do mean time, you won't even think about it anymore.
thats when part of your body with have balance, then just need to balance the rest.
I can truly say I 'm close to complete balance in my life, this is my last dark path, and I'm glad to walk down it with all of you!
Thanks again for reaching out.
Dan
Kana no one is trying to berate you or your quit! We truely have concern for one another and we are all going through or have gone through the same things. You need to realize the power of nicotine on your brain. You seek balance, well we don't want you to be surprised at the grip nicotine can have on you for the long haul. I can speak for 3 1/2 yrs. that is how long my longest pause was for. I was in my early 20's quit for good reasons. The bitch set waiting and the day came that she pounced! I proved I could take one dip and only one dip, I was cured!!!! Well here I am and that didn't work out very well. Now I'm on day 134 over 30 yrs older hopefully a little wiser and still very much afraid of becoming over confident. Be prepared the day you never think about dip may never come. On my day 132, that's right 2 days ago I was hit by a crave that was the most intense since April 1 my quit day! It lasted over 8 hrs never letting up, I had the tools to deal with it but 100 days ago it would have been much more difficult to deal with.
Take the advise you receive here very serious! There is a unbelievable amount of knowledge and wisdom available to you if you will take it!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kstampfly on August 12, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
Ya no cans around. I found the last empty one when I took out the garbage few days ago. Was nice seeing that thing go out.
I will have to take it one day at a time, it's the only way I know this, but I have to say never again. Each day I wake up, tell myself never again, post roll go for walk, bla bla bla. I'm re-programming.
Yes you're right NEVER can be daunting, or endless but my point is that once the time has past, and I do mean time, you won't even think about it anymore.
thats when part of your body with have balance, then just need to balance the rest.
I can truly say I 'm close to complete balance in my life, this is my last dark path, and I'm glad to walk down it with all of you!
Thanks again for reaching out.
Dan
Kana no one is trying to berate you or your quit! We truely have concern for one another and we are all going through or have gone through the same things. You need to realize the power of nicotine on your brain. You seek balance, well we don't want you to be surprised at the grip nicotine can have on you for the long haul. I can speak for 3 1/2 yrs. that is how long my longest pause was for. I was in my early 20's quit for good reasons. The bitch set waiting and the day came that she pounced! I proved I could take one dip and only one dip, I was cured!!!! Well here I am and that didn't work out very well. Now I'm on day 134 over 30 yrs older hopefully a little wiser and still very much afraid of becoming over confident. Be prepared the day you never think about dip may never come. On my day 132, that's right 2 days ago I was hit by a crave that was the most intense since April 1 my quit day! It lasted over 8 hrs never letting up, I had the tools to deal with it but 100 days ago it would have been much more difficult to deal with.
Take the advise you receive here very serious! There is a unbelievable amount of knowledge and wisdom available to you if you will take it!
Kana,

Keep kicking ass one day at a time. post roll everyday and reach out to us if you need help. Quitting is not just a job its a way of life!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 12, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
this is going to be a tough week for me. many emotions are coming out.
All my life I have been a slave to some form of shit. I was blessed to marry my wife 18 yrs. ago, but boy was I lost. She's from a completely different culture which has added communication challenges from time to time, but we're strong.
We wanted to have children, and tried for 6 yrs. Nothing. Then my Dr. told me my drinking, and smoking wasn't helping. I quit drinking, and 2 months later she was pregnant. I remember sitting in the yard (she was 4 mo along) I was 6 mo. sober, and I thought hey she's pregnant, I did my job, time to start drinking again! I went into a haze of hangovers until one night I got the call from the Dr. Our child (son) had a rare disease and wouldn't survive the birth. We lost him.....
I went into a spiral of depression, drinking, smoking...We almost split a couple times. I felt like the lord was punishing me for being an ass. I felt like it was my fault. I finally decided one day that it was time to take back control. I quit drinking and smoking cold turkey, but picked up the cope (an old friend) to help me through it.
We continued to try and have children. In vitro 3 times, nothing. We tried everything. My sobriety was very strong at this point, and we decided to be baptized. The next month we found out she was pregnant. Holy crap, the Dr. was surprised as well. It was like torture going through the pregnancy hoping and praying this time all would be fine. I made a promise to the lord I would quit chewing the day he was born in hopes that everything would be ok.
The happiest day of my life came and went. Tanner was born.(He's almost 6 now) i was Still chewing, crap. I knew the lord wasn't happy with me, and I told my wife each year I would quit. Her reply -whatever, I've heard that before. Do what makes you happy. She didn't care if I chewed or not. My son was starting to look at me funny when I'd talk. spit drooling out the corner of my mouth. (What a fucking idiot I was)
I kept saying to myself I'd quit for them. That's why it never worked. I had to quit for myself. I had to show my wife, and son that I'M A MAN and I would take care of them.
I told myself I'd finally quit On my 8 year sobriety (Aug 15th) Last week I was looking in the mirror I started crying like a baby, saying to myself always a fucking excuse to chew a little longer. excuses, excuses. I said fuck this I'm quitting right now and dumped the cans. Instead of day 1 on the 15th, It'll be day 11!
I feel so much better now, I feel like a MAN.
I'm no Dr. Phil but hopefully my posts will help the younger boys learn that Killing The Can now will save you a lot of time, money, and heartache. It will help define who you are early, building your foundation.
Thanks to all the strong mother fuckers on here who helped me find my balls, Man up and take care of my family. I'm so proud to quit with you guys!!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kstampfly on August 12, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
Quote from: kana
this is going to be a tough week for me. many emotions are coming out.
All my life I have been a slave to some form of shit. I was blessed to marry my wife 18 yrs. ago, but boy was I lost. She's from a completely different culture which has added communication challenges from time to time, but we're strong.
We wanted to have children, and tried for 6 yrs. Nothing. Then my Dr. told me my drinking, and smoking wasn't helping. I quit drinking, and 2 months later she was pregnant. I remember sitting in the yard (she was 4 mo along) I was 6 mo. sober, and I thought hey she's pregnant, I did my job, time to start drinking again! I went into a haze of hangovers until one night I got the call from the Dr. Our child (son) had a rare disease and wouldn't survive the birth. We lost him.....
I went into a spiral of depression, drinking, smoking...We almost split a couple times. I felt like the lord was punishing me for being an ass. I felt like it was my fault. I finally decided one day that it was time to take back control. I quit drinking and smoking cold turkey, but picked up the cope (an old friend) to help me through it.
We continued to try and have children. In vitro 3 times, nothing. We tried everything. My sobriety was very strong at this point, and we decided to be baptized. The next month we found out she was pregnant. Holy crap, the Dr. was surprised as well. It was like torture going through the pregnancy hoping and praying this time all would be fine. I made a promise to the lord I would quit chewing the day he was born in hopes that everything would be ok.
The happiest day of my life came and went. Tanner was born.(He's almost 6 now) i was Still chewing, crap. I knew the lord wasn't happy with me, and I told my wife each year I would quit. Her reply -whatever, I've heard that before. Do what makes you happy. She didn't care if I chewed or not. My son was starting to look at me funny when I'd talk. spit drooling out the corner of my mouth. (What a fucking idiot I was)
I kept saying to myself I'd quit for them. That's why it never worked. I had to quit for myself. I had to show my wife, and son that I'M A MAN and I would take care of them.
I told myself I'd finally quit On my 8 year sobriety (Aug 15th) Last week I was looking in the mirror I started crying like a baby, saying to myself always a fucking excuse to chew a little longer. excuses, excuses. I said fuck this I'm quitting right now and dumped the cans. Instead of day 1 on the 15th, It'll be day 11!
I feel so much better now, I feel like a MAN.
I'm no Dr. Phil but hopefully my posts will help the younger boys learn that Killing The Can now will save you a lot of time, money, and heartache. It will help define who you are early, building your foundation.
Thanks to all the strong mother fuckers on here who helped me find my balls, Man up and take care of my family. I'm so proud to quit with you guys!!!!
Kana,

Reading your post tugged at a few of my heart strings. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to lose a child. I have a boy who is almost three and another child on the way. I don't know what I would do if I lost either of them. Like yourself I had so many excuses for using chewing tobacco but in reality they were all bullshit. I have tried to quit many times before and failed miserably. I would always walk into the convenience store with my head up my ass, and walk out with another can of lip shit. I finally had enough of this and threw out all my cans of chew. I came to this site with a hard on for quitting and thanks to all the supporters I am still going strong three weeks later. All I can say man is don't ever give up, not for even a single second. Think about your family and what they really mean to you. Ask yourself do you really want to lose all of that for a fucking can of DIP? Your answer should be no. Post roll every morning(do not miss a day) and get some phone numbers from your quit brothers. Use them when you are ever thinking about caving. Stay strong and stay quit brother!!

kstamp
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: dr_jones_25 on August 12, 2012, 03:19:00 PM
Quote from: kstampfly
Quote from: kana
this is going to be a tough week for me. many emotions are coming out.
All my life I have been a slave to some form of shit. I was blessed to marry my wife 18 yrs. ago, but boy was I lost. She's from a completely different culture which has added communication challenges from time to time, but we're strong.
We wanted to have children, and tried for 6 yrs. Nothing. Then my Dr. told me my drinking, and smoking wasn't helping. I quit drinking, and 2 months later she was pregnant. I remember sitting in the yard (she was 4 mo along) I was 6 mo. sober, and I thought hey she's pregnant, I did my job, time to start drinking again! I went into a haze of hangovers until one night I got the call from the Dr. Our child (son) had a rare disease and wouldn't survive the birth. We lost him.....
I went into a spiral of depression, drinking, smoking...We almost split a couple times. I felt like the lord was punishing me for being an ass. I felt like it was my fault. I finally decided one day that it was time to take back control. I quit drinking and smoking cold turkey, but picked up the cope (an old friend) to help me through it.
We continued to try and have children. In vitro 3 times, nothing. We tried everything. My sobriety was very strong at this point, and we decided to be baptized. The next month we found out she was pregnant. Holy crap, the Dr. was surprised as well. It was like torture going through the pregnancy hoping and praying this time all would be fine. I made a promise to the lord I would quit chewing the day he was born in hopes that everything would be ok.
The happiest day of my life came and went. Tanner was born.(He's almost 6 now)  i was Still chewing, crap. I knew the lord wasn't happy with me, and I told my wife each year I would quit. Her reply -whatever, I've heard that before. Do what makes you happy. She didn't care if I chewed or not. My son was starting to look at me funny when I'd talk. spit drooling out the corner of my mouth. (What a fucking idiot I was)
I kept saying to myself I'd quit for them. That's why it never worked. I had to quit for myself. I had to show my wife, and son that I'M A MAN and I would take care of them.
I told myself I'd finally quit On my 8 year sobriety (Aug 15th) Last week I was looking in the mirror I started crying like a baby, saying to myself always a fucking excuse to chew a little longer. excuses, excuses. I said fuck this I'm quitting right now and dumped the cans. Instead of day 1 on the 15th, It'll be day 11!
I feel so much better now, I feel like a MAN.
I'm no Dr. Phil but hopefully my posts will help the younger boys learn that Killing The Can now will save you a lot of time, money, and heartache. It will help define who you are early, building your foundation.
Thanks to all the strong mother fuckers on here who helped me find my balls, Man up and take care of my family. I'm so proud to quit with you guys!!!!
Kana,

Reading your post tugged at a few of my heart strings. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to lose a child. I have a boy who is almost three and another child on the way. I don't know what I would do if I lost either of them. Like yourself I had so many excuses for using chewing tobacco but in reality they were all bullshit. I have tried to quit many times before and failed miserably. I would always walk into the convenience store with my head up my ass, and walk out with another can of lip shit. I finally had enough of this and threw out all my cans of chew. I came to this site with a hard on for quitting and thanks to all the supporters I am still going strong three weeks later. All I can say man is don't ever give up, not for even a single second. Think about your family and what they really mean to you. Ask yourself do you really want to lose all of that for a fucking can of DIP? Your answer should be no. Post roll every morning(do not miss a day) and get some phone numbers from your quit brothers. Use them when you are ever thinking about caving. Stay strong and stay quit brother!!

kstamp
Very inspirational story. Stay quit, it will be the best thing you have done, or will do. I have a 6 year old daughter, and I know exactly how you feel when you talk about our children looking at us weird. I am glad you shared your story, and I quit with you today bro!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 13, 2012, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: dr_jones_25
Quote from: kstampfly
Quote from: kana
this is going to be a tough week for me. many emotions are coming out.
All my life I have been a slave to some form of shit. I was blessed to marry my wife 18 yrs. ago, but boy was I lost. She's from a completely different culture which has added communication challenges from time to time, but we're strong.
We wanted to have children, and tried for 6 yrs. Nothing. Then my Dr. told me my drinking, and smoking wasn't helping. I quit drinking, and 2 months later she was pregnant. I remember sitting in the yard (she was 4 mo along) I was 6 mo. sober, and I thought hey she's pregnant, I did my job, time to start drinking again! I went into a haze of hangovers until one night I got the call from the Dr. Our child (son) had a rare disease and wouldn't survive the birth. We lost him.....
I went into a spiral of depression, drinking, smoking...We almost split a couple times. I felt like the lord was punishing me for being an ass. I felt like it was my fault. I finally decided one day that it was time to take back control. I quit drinking and smoking cold turkey, but picked up the cope (an old friend) to help me through it.
We continued to try and have children. In vitro 3 times, nothing. We tried everything. My sobriety was very strong at this point, and we decided to be baptized. The next month we found out she was pregnant. Holy crap, the Dr. was surprised as well. It was like torture going through the pregnancy hoping and praying this time all would be fine. I made a promise to the lord I would quit chewing the day he was born in hopes that everything would be ok.
The happiest day of my life came and went. Tanner was born.(He's almost 6 now)  i was Still chewing, crap. I knew the lord wasn't happy with me, and I told my wife each year I would quit. Her reply -whatever, I've heard that before. Do what makes you happy. She didn't care if I chewed or not. My son was starting to look at me funny when I'd talk. spit drooling out the corner of my mouth. (What a fucking idiot I was)
I kept saying to myself I'd quit for them. That's why it never worked. I had to quit for myself. I had to show my wife, and son that I'M A MAN and I would take care of them.
I told myself I'd finally quit On my 8 year sobriety (Aug 15th) Last week I was looking in the mirror I started crying like a baby, saying to myself always a fucking excuse to chew a little longer. excuses, excuses. I said fuck this I'm quitting right now and dumped the cans. Instead of day 1 on the 15th, It'll be day 11!
I feel so much better now, I feel like a MAN.
I'm no Dr. Phil but hopefully my posts will help the younger boys learn that Killing The Can now will save you a lot of time, money, and heartache. It will help define who you are early, building your foundation.
Thanks to all the strong mother fuckers on here who helped me find my balls, Man up and take care of my family. I'm so proud to quit with you guys!!!!
Kana,

Reading your post tugged at a few of my heart strings. I can't imagine what it must have felt like to lose a child. I have a boy who is almost three and another child on the way. I don't know what I would do if I lost either of them. Like yourself I had so many excuses for using chewing tobacco but in reality they were all bullshit. I have tried to quit many times before and failed miserably. I would always walk into the convenience store with my head up my ass, and walk out with another can of lip shit. I finally had enough of this and threw out all my cans of chew. I came to this site with a hard on for quitting and thanks to all the supporters I am still going strong three weeks later. All I can say man is don't ever give up, not for even a single second. Think about your family and what they really mean to you. Ask yourself do you really want to lose all of that for a fucking can of DIP? Your answer should be no. Post roll every morning(do not miss a day) and get some phone numbers from your quit brothers. Use them when you are ever thinking about caving. Stay strong and stay quit brother!!

kstamp
Very inspirational story. Stay quit, it will be the best thing you have done, or will do. I have a 6 year old daughter, and I know exactly how you feel when you talk about our children looking at us weird. I am glad you shared your story, and I quit with you today bro!!!
Thanks Doc, I quit with you!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 15, 2012, 10:29:00 AM
I've been thinking for a couples days on what I wanted to say today. Today I'm 11 days quit, and 8 years sober. I want to share my story so younger quitters won't have to experience a bottom. Maybe some of you don't know what a bottom is? I unfortunately have experienced 2. Here's the first one.
In 2004 we lost our first child, and I lost my career. It's a year I'll never forget as I spiraled out of control. I had 2 surgeries, wasn't working for a year. bored. depressed about our son. Marriage was on the rocks, I had backed myself in a corner with beer, drinking  smoking everyday. My father (with dementia) was my best friend, and my main support. My mother wasn't even talking to me.
One night I drank myself to oblivion yelling at my wife, throwing things. shameful really. The next morning someone kept ringing the doorbell, over,  over,  over. I got up in a hung over rage to answer the door. It was my father.
I said to him what the fuck are you doing? I'm sleeping!!! He couldn't get a word out of his mouth, as I was still cursing at him. I slammed the door!! I could see his face through the window and he looked like I had just stabbed him. You see today was his birthday, I was supposed to help him move some things and then take him to lunch... I had made these plans myself and I forgot..
After I woke up I looked at myself in the mirror and I just realized it was his Bday, I started balling like a baby. I had never felt so low in my life. From that point on I never drank or smoked again. Our relationship is a fucking rock now. Mom too. Thats when I started copenhagen, (another story)
I share this with you because it's my ammo for my quit. It gives me strength. Some of the younger guys don't have this kind of ammo. That's why we share so you won't have to go through the pain that we have. The bottoms. You don't want to go there.
Please read as much as you can, the stories will stick in your head and give you ammo  strength. I'm proud to quit with all of you!!!
:D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Bruce on August 15, 2012, 12:45:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I've been thinking for a couples days on what I wanted to say today. Today I'm 11 days quit, and 8 years sober. I want to share my story so younger quitters won't have to experience a bottom. Maybe some of you don't know what a bottom is? I unfortunately have experienced 2. Here's the first one.
In 2004 we lost our first child, and I lost my career. It's a year I'll never forget as I spiraled out of control. I had 2 surgeries, wasn't working for a year. bored. depressed about our son. Marriage was on the rocks, I had backed myself in a corner with beer, drinking  smoking everyday. My father (with dementia) was my best friend, and my main support. My mother wasn't even talking to me.
One night I drank myself to oblivion yelling at my wife, throwing things. shameful really. The next morning someone kept ringing the doorbell, over,  over,  over. I got up in a hung over rage to answer the door. It was my father.
I said to him what the fuck are you doing? I'm sleeping!!! He couldn't get a word out of his mouth, as I was still cursing at him. I slammed the door!! I could see his face through the window and he looked like I had just stabbed him. You see today was his birthday, I was supposed to help him move some things and then take him to lunch... I had made these plans myself and I forgot..
After I woke up I looked at myself in the mirror and I just realized it was his Bday, I started balling like a baby. I had never felt so low in my life. From that point on I never drank or smoked again. Our relationship is a fucking rock now. Mom too. Thats when I started copenhagen, (another story)
I share this with you because it's my ammo for my quit. It gives me strength. Some of the younger guys don't have this kind of ammo. That's why we share so you won't have to go through the pain that we have. The bottoms. You don't want to go there.
Please read as much as you can, the stories will stick in your head and give you ammo  strength. I'm proud to quit with all of you!!!
:D
Kana,

First of all, congrats on 8 freakin' years of quit man!!!

That's a sad story, a powerful story, and great inspiration to stay quit. Fight the good fight, 8 years of being sober is an awesome accomplishment, but like nic, all it takes is one bad decision, one weak moment. It doesn't matter if you're a youngster or an old fart, if you don't know how to react during a weak moment you'll have to drag your sorry ass back to day 1. A struggle with an addiction is what brought us here and as you well know it's a lifetime struggle. No matter what your ammo is, make sure you're always fully loaded!

Glad you're here and glad you shared that story! I'll quit with you today

Bruce
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Buddy Mac on August 15, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I've been thinking for a couples days on what I wanted to say today. Today I'm 11 days quit, and 8 years sober. I want to share my story so younger quitters won't have to experience a bottom. Maybe some of you don't know what a bottom is? I unfortunately have experienced 2. Here's the first one.
In 2004 we lost our first child, and I lost my career. It's a year I'll never forget as I spiraled out of control. I had 2 surgeries, wasn't working for a year. bored. depressed about our son. Marriage was on the rocks, I had backed myself in a corner with beer, drinking  smoking everyday. My father (with dementia) was my best friend, and my main support. My mother wasn't even talking to me.
One night I drank myself to oblivion yelling at my wife, throwing things. shameful really. The next morning someone kept ringing the doorbell, over,  over,  over. I got up in a hung over rage to answer the door. It was my father.
I said to him what the fuck are you doing? I'm sleeping!!! He couldn't get a word out of his mouth, as I was still cursing at him. I slammed the door!! I could see his face through the window and he looked like I had just stabbed him. You see today was his birthday, I was supposed to help him move some things and then take him to lunch... I had made these plans myself and I forgot..
After I woke up I looked at myself in the mirror and I just realized it was his Bday, I started balling like a baby. I had never felt so low in my life. From that point on I never drank or smoked again. Our relationship is a fucking rock now. Mom too. Thats when I started copenhagen, (another story)
I share this with you because it's my ammo for my quit. It gives me strength. Some of the younger guys don't have this kind of ammo. That's why we share so you won't have to go through the pain that we have. The bottoms. You don't want to go there.
Please read as much as you can, the stories will stick in your head and give you ammo  strength. I'm proud to quit with all of you!!!
:D
Good Stuff Kana, proud to be quit with you today.....
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Roamcountry on August 15, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: Buddy
Quote from: kana
I've been thinking for a couples days on what I wanted to say today. Today I'm 11 days quit, and 8 years sober. I want to share my story so younger quitters won't have to experience a bottom. Maybe some of you don't know what a bottom is? I unfortunately have experienced 2. Here's the first one.
In 2004 we lost our first child, and I lost my career.  It's a year I'll never forget as I spiraled out of control. I had 2 surgeries, wasn't working for a year. bored. depressed about our son. Marriage was on the rocks, I had backed myself in a corner with beer, drinking  smoking everyday. My father (with dementia) was my best friend, and my main support. My mother wasn't even talking to me.
One night I drank myself to oblivion yelling at my wife, throwing things. shameful really. The next morning someone kept ringing the doorbell, over,  over,  over. I got up in a hung over rage to answer the door. It was my father.
I said to him what the fuck are you doing? I'm sleeping!!! He couldn't get a word out of his mouth, as I was still cursing at him. I slammed the door!! I could see his face through the window and he looked like I had just stabbed him. You see today was his birthday, I was supposed to help him move some things and then take him to lunch... I had made these plans myself and I forgot..
After I woke up I looked at myself in the mirror and I just realized it was his Bday, I started balling like a baby. I had never felt so low in my life. From that point on I never drank or smoked again. Our relationship is a fucking rock now. Mom too. Thats when I started copenhagen, (another story)
I share this with you because it's my ammo for my quit. It gives me strength. Some of the younger guys don't have this kind of ammo. That's why we share so you won't have to go through the pain that we have. The bottoms. You don't want to go there.
Please read as much as you can, the stories will stick in your head and give you ammo  strength. I'm proud to quit with all of you!!!
:D
Good Stuff Kana, proud to be quit with you today.....
x2
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 15, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Quote from: Roamcountry
Quote from: Buddy
Quote from: kana
I've been thinking for a couples days on what I wanted to say today. Today I'm 11 days quit, and 8 years sober. I want to share my story so younger quitters won't have to experience a bottom. Maybe some of you don't know what a bottom is? I unfortunately have experienced 2. Here's the first one.
In 2004 we lost our first child, and I lost my career.  It's a year I'll never forget as I spiraled out of control. I had 2 surgeries, wasn't working for a year. bored. depressed about our son. Marriage was on the rocks, I had backed myself in a corner with beer, drinking  smoking everyday. My father (with dementia) was my best friend, and my main support. My mother wasn't even talking to me.
One night I drank myself to oblivion yelling at my wife, throwing things. shameful really. The next morning someone kept ringing the doorbell, over,  over,  over. I got up in a hung over rage to answer the door. It was my father.
I said to him what the fuck are you doing? I'm sleeping!!! He couldn't get a word out of his mouth, as I was still cursing at him. I slammed the door!! I could see his face through the window and he looked like I had just stabbed him. You see today was his birthday, I was supposed to help him move some things and then take him to lunch... I had made these plans myself and I forgot..
After I woke up I looked at myself in the mirror and I just realized it was his Bday, I started balling like a baby. I had never felt so low in my life. From that point on I never drank or smoked again. Our relationship is a fucking rock now. Mom too. Thats when I started copenhagen, (another story)
I share this with you because it's my ammo for my quit. It gives me strength. Some of the younger guys don't have this kind of ammo. That's why we share so you won't have to go through the pain that we have. The bottoms. You don't want to go there.
Please read as much as you can, the stories will stick in your head and give you ammo  strength. I'm proud to quit with all of you!!!
:D
Good Stuff Kana, proud to be quit with you today.....
x2
Thanks guys.. Feeling good.. Today is a great day.. Nic free of course :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: JJMARSHALL117 on August 15, 2012, 02:20:00 PM
KANA,

I just wanted to say that I truly apprecaite everything you post. You always seem to throw something out that I can relate to in some shape or form, and every time it helps to solidify my quit with further and further.

Proud to Quit with you
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: treitz1 on August 20, 2012, 10:13:00 AM
Chat seems to be down again
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on August 20, 2012, 11:55:00 AM
Kana
You are one bad ass quitter that is exactly how I feel! Please younger guys wake up now so you dont have to go through some of the terrible shit we older quitters have had to experience. I also have hit the bottom several times and it sucks. It sucks a lot worse than quitting! Im quit with you everyday. I hear the truck coming! haha
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 22, 2012, 02:07:00 PM
Well time to check in.. I've been going through all the triggers pretty good. just an occasional nic bitch rage. I'm sad to say I broke my weedwacker in half.. no shit... It was 113 freekin degrees (and humid) I was mowing the lawn, and could see a thunderstorm rolling in. was trying to finish before the downpour. done mowing weed wacker wouldn't start. I broke the effin thing in half. HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. boy that felt good. can you say release? anyway im out $100 bucks but I'm still nic free and loving every minute of it!!
chow
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: 30isEnuff on August 22, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' That is Awesome Kana!!!! Whatever it takes to keep the POISON our of your mouth!!!
I can relate to the rage/anger/short temper since being quit. It comes out of nowhere with me. My patience with people and traffic is non-existent at times since being quit.
Thank you for sharing....I laughed my head off!!
I quit with YOU today! 'bang head'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 24, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there.. I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on August 24, 2012, 03:33:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there..  I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Kana I'm no vet and definitely no expert and may get my ass fed to me one piece at a time (nothing new)! Since 1972 I've been an addict to alcohol and nicotine, I've been recovering from alcohol completely sober since October 1979 and nic free since 1:30 am April 1, 2012. Coming online and surrounding myself with talk of dip everyday does 2 positive things for me: 1. I am reminded everyday why I quit, how long I've been quit, what power nicotine has and how others facing the same challenges as me face them. 2. For me the second positive is the brotherhood and satisfaction that comes from paying the support I've received forward. This can be very satisfying and like anything in life it has it's opposites, some addicts just aren't ready or strong enough to stay quit.
Addressing cavers and half assed posters. We are all very different and at different junctions in life. Looking at the younger quitter or less self motivated quitter I see myself 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. There was the time in 1979 I was a motivated quitter of both alcohol and tabacco and quit both cold turkey completely on my own. Both lasted for nearly 4 years till I caved to dip! My motivation to quit was my lovely wife who I married in 1980. What happened in 1983? Well real life happened, the honeymoon was over! What happened 146 days ago that makes my quit different, strong? Maturity and Motivation! I finally realized the honeymoon was over and had been for a very long time, i had been dip pussy whipped, I'm a damn slow learner. But I finally woke up and realized that quitting was what I wanted, I was so tired of being a slave!
You comment you feel Like a alcoholic working in a bar: I look at it kind of like raising kids you want to shield them from every danger and evil but if they aren't exposed to real life when they are faced with it they won't be equipped to deal with what comes their way. We live in the real world we are faced by temptation and challenges daily so there is no need to shrink or shun the fight but face it head on.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Kubrick on August 24, 2012, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there..  I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Kana I'm no vet and definitely no expert and may get my ass fed to me one piece at a time (nothing new)! Since 1972 I've been an addict to alcohol and nicotine, I've been recovering from alcohol completely sober since October 1979 and nic free since 1:30 am April 1, 2012. Coming online and surrounding myself with talk of dip everyday does 2 positive things for me: 1. I am reminded everyday why I quit, how long I've been quit, what power nicotine has and how others facing the same challenges as me face them. 2. For me the second positive is the brotherhood and satisfaction that comes from paying the support I've received forward. This can be very satisfying and like anything in life it has it's opposites, some addicts just aren't ready or strong enough to stay quit.
Addressing cavers and half assed posters. We are all very different and at different junctions in life. Looking at the younger quitter or less self motivated quitter I see myself 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. There was the time in 1979 I was a motivated quitter of both alcohol and tabacco and quit both cold turkey completely on my own. Both lasted for nearly 4 years till I caved to dip! My motivation to quit was my lovely wife who I married in 1980. What happened in 1983? Well real life happened, the honeymoon was over! What happened 146 days ago that makes my quit different, strong? Maturity and Motivation! I'm a damn slow learner. But I finally woke up and realized that quitting was what I wanted, I was so tired of being a slave!
You comment you feel Like a alcoholic working in a bar: I look at it kind of like raising kids you want to shield them from every danger and evil but if they aren't exposed to real life when they are faced with it they won't be equipped to deal with what comes their way. We live in the real world we are faced by temptation and challenges daily so there is no need to shrink or shun the fight but face it head on.
Listed to WT. Wise words right there from one badass quitter.

Kana, you don't have to spend that much time on the site if you don't want to. Just log on, post your promise to your quit group and then get on with your day. Make sure you have numbers and what not handy just in case, but nothing says you need to stick around and read anything else here.

Just do the most important thing for the day - post roll and take that nicotine off the table for the day.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Morgan1 on August 24, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there..  I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Kana I'm no vet and definitely no expert and may get my ass fed to me one piece at a time (nothing new)! Since 1972 I've been an addict to alcohol and nicotine, I've been recovering from alcohol completely sober since October 1979 and nic free since 1:30 am April 1, 2012. Coming online and surrounding myself with talk of dip everyday does 2 positive things for me: 1. I am reminded everyday why I quit, how long I've been quit, what power nicotine has and how others facing the same challenges as me face them. 2. For me the second positive is the brotherhood and satisfaction that comes from paying the support I've received forward. This can be very satisfying and like anything in life it has it's opposites, some addicts just aren't ready or strong enough to stay quit.
Addressing cavers and half assed posters. We are all very different and at different junctions in life. Looking at the younger quitter or less self motivated quitter I see myself 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. There was the time in 1979 I was a motivated quitter of both alcohol and tabacco and quit both cold turkey completely on my own. Both lasted for nearly 4 years till I caved to dip! My motivation to quit was my lovely wife who I married in 1980. What happened in 1983? Well real life happened, the honeymoon was over! What happened 146 days ago that makes my quit different, strong? Maturity and Motivation! I'm a damn slow learner. But I finally woke up and realized that quitting was what I wanted, I was so tired of being a slave!
You comment you feel Like a alcoholic working in a bar: I look at it kind of like raising kids you want to shield them from every danger and evil but if they aren't exposed to real life when they are faced with it they won't be equipped to deal with what comes their way. We live in the real world we are faced by temptation and challenges daily so there is no need to shrink or shun the fight but face it head on.
Listed to WT. Wise words right there from one badass quitter.

Kana, you don't have to spend that much time on the site if you don't want to. Just log on, post your promise to your quit group and then get on with your day. Make sure you have numbers and what not handy just in case, but nothing says you need to stick around and read anything else here.

Just do the most important thing for the day - post roll and take that nicotine off the table for the day.
What he said ^^^

Echoing those thoughts, you don't need to live on the site like some of us do. It works for me. What works for me may not work for you. Post roll every day as your promise to your brothers - and the rest of the site - that you will not use and then get on with your day. You don't need to be on here or thinking about here until the next morning when you post your promise again. I think that there is a lot to be gained by staying near the site and my reccomendation is that you do...BUT...I'm not in your brain. Do what works for you - just make sure you post up everyday and you honor it. You ever need to talk or have someone post for you -you've got my number.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: dchogs on August 24, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Nice work on a week bro. Try to keep it to one intro thread bud so folks can read your story in one place. Mine reads like a steamy novel of lust and quit.
Now that made me laugh out loud. Thanks soul. Glad you are on my side.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 24, 2012, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: Dchogs
Quote from: Souliman
Nice work on a week bro. Try to keep it to one intro thread bud so folks can read your story in one place. Mine reads like a steamy novel of lust and quit.
Now that made me laugh out loud. Thanks soul. Glad you are on my side.






does this mean i'm doing something incorrectly souliman?
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on August 24, 2012, 11:33:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Dchogs
Quote from: Souliman
Nice work on a week bro. Try to keep it to one intro thread bud so folks can read your story in one place. Mine reads like a steamy novel of lust and quit.
Now that made me laugh out loud. Thanks soul. Glad you are on my side.






does this mean i'm doing something incorrectly souliman?
Someone's smoking' something! Your thread is right on! Your a badass quitter and you post are really inspiring .
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 25, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Dchogs
Quote from: Souliman
Nice work on a week bro. Try to keep it to one intro thread bud so folks can read your story in one place. Mine reads like a steamy novel of lust and quit.
Now that made me laugh out loud. Thanks soul. Glad you are on my side.






does this mean i'm doing something incorrectly souliman?
Someone's smoking' something! Your thread is right on! Your a badass quitter and you post are really inspiring .
ok.. the last four days? I have no idea..I don't know what anxiety feels like but this shit was weird.. I wasn't physically craving chew at all. I just felt like i was in a very dark place.. I remembered someone saying they had a bad crave around day 16, 17 just as bad, 18 worse, 19 I was getting worried. Last night I wept like a baby (day 19) today day 20 and still the same. who has a five fucking day crave? Then my wife to the rescue..
My wife never cared if I chewed, i was no ninja. she would buy it for me. Told me she just wanted me to be happy. last week I told her I quit, and she said what ever makes you happy. I would tell her honey day 14! she could care less..
then today she asked me what was wrong.. I told her someone I know caved and I was having a hard time dealing with it.
her response: who cares about that guy, just concentrate on yourself. I couldn't believe she was saying the same thing as all of you..When I found KTC I knew this was it. I had finally decided to quit for myself..I told her I wanted to quit so I could live to take care of her and my son. She told me she didn't care because how many times I had failed quitting.
Today she told me she was proud of me, because she knew this time was it.. never made it this far.. so she said she'd help in any way. I needed that.
so thanks to the few who actually responded in my galactic 5 day crave.
I got home tonight feeling much better thank god...My son told me to put this fireman here and say aloha
javascript:emoticon("'fireman'")


'fireman'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: dchogs on August 25, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there..  I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Kana I'm no vet and definitely no expert and may get my ass fed to me one piece at a time (nothing new)! Since 1972 I've been an addict to alcohol and nicotine, I've been recovering from alcohol completely sober since October 1979 and nic free since 1:30 am April 1, 2012. Coming online and surrounding myself with talk of dip everyday does 2 positive things for me: 1. I am reminded everyday why I quit, how long I've been quit, what power nicotine has and how others facing the same challenges as me face them. 2. For me the second positive is the brotherhood and satisfaction that comes from paying the support I've received forward. This can be very satisfying and like anything in life it has it's opposites, some addicts just aren't ready or strong enough to stay quit.
Addressing cavers and half assed posters. We are all very different and at different junctions in life. Looking at the younger quitter or less self motivated quitter I see myself 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. There was the time in 1979 I was a motivated quitter of both alcohol and tabacco and quit both cold turkey completely on my own. Both lasted for nearly 4 years till I caved to dip! My motivation to quit was my lovely wife who I married in 1980. What happened in 1983? Well real life happened, the honeymoon was over! What happened 146 days ago that makes my quit different, strong? Maturity and Motivation! I'm a damn slow learner. But I finally woke up and realized that quitting was what I wanted, I was so tired of being a slave!
You comment you feel Like a alcoholic working in a bar: I look at it kind of like raising kids you want to shield them from every danger and evil but if they aren't exposed to real life when they are faced with it they won't be equipped to deal with what comes their way. We live in the real world we are faced by temptation and challenges daily so there is no need to shrink or shun the fight but face it head on.
Listed to WT. Wise words right there from one badass quitter.

Kana, you don't have to spend that much time on the site if you don't want to. Just log on, post your promise to your quit group and then get on with your day. Make sure you have numbers and what not handy just in case, but nothing says you need to stick around and read anything else here.

Just do the most important thing for the day - post roll and take that nicotine off the table for the day.
What he said ^^^

Echoing those thoughts, you don't need to live on the site like some of us do. It works for me. What works for me may not work for you. Post roll every day as your promise to your brothers - and the rest of the site - that you will not use and then get on with your day. You don't need to be on here or thinking about here until the next morning when you post your promise again. I think that there is a lot to be gained by staying near the site and my reccomendation is that you do...BUT...I'm not in your brain. Do what works for you - just make sure you post up everyday and you honor it. You ever need to talk or have someone post for you -you've got my number.
kana, nice intro, and I'm damned glad to be quit with you.

I have come here to quit for 463 out of the past 466 days not to forget but to remember. I am an addict, and I need to fucking remember the law of addiction... "Administration of a drug to an addict will cause re-establishment of chemical dependence upon the addictive substance.". Just like the law of gravity, this law is something you cannot escape. You don't have to believe in it, but you are bound by its rules with absolute cerainty.

I have come here just about every day to support my friends that are fighting this fight beside me. Sometimes I'm their cornerman; other times they are mine. Neither would happen without daily posting. THAT level of friendship and brotherhood only comes from consistent and purposeful action and attention.

I am here every day (99.3% of the time that is... I'm both proud of that number and disappointed in the three failures it represents) because it saves me. At this point, I am probably good to go... I could skip weeks or months at a pop without posting. Probably not going to cave. I'm 99% sure. The thing is... I'm 100% sure that I'm not going to throw in a dip every day that I post roll. I fail to see a good reason to stop a 5 minute "chore" that guarantees my success.

The one major thing most cavers have in common on KTC is drifting away from the site. My quit brother from Aug 11, per, stopped posting after a year for the same reason you're throwing around.

On April 30 my man stopped posting.

On May 24, the badass quitter LLCope posted "LLCope -394- All these Quitheads negelecting their daily promise---they are starting to forget---dangerous! I can hear it now---"before I caved, I stopped posting with my group... I thought I had control...I forgot I was an addict"

On June 28th per, one of MY rocks, posted the following words: "My story is no different than any other failed quit. I had it licked. It was gone. I was master of my own destiny. I didn't need this place anymore. Coming here made me think of it every day, so I stopped coming here. And that's when my failure started. My quit failed on June 10, 2012."

Kana, the shit you are experiencing is normal, but keep posting. Those that drift away, cave. Those that don't, survive on a day by day basis.

Do me a favor, before you decide to stop posting here because it makes you remember dipping, message my man Per034 and see what he tells you.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 25, 2012, 12:54:00 AM
Quote from: Dchogs
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: kana
I won't lie.. I'm definitely struggling like all of you, but I'm getting confused with this concept. I know the dangers of chew.. I know I'm quit.. I know I'll never put that shit in my lip again.. NEVER.. What I'm struggling with is I feel like an alcoholic working in a bar. When I quit drinking I attended AA for 6 mo. The only way I can explain it, I needed separation, so I never went back. 8 yrs later still sober, still strong as an ox with my quit. maybe when I hit 10 years I'll attend a meeting out of respect to myself. but honestly it doesn't matter because I'll never drink again.
It's easier that it's not in my face everyday. I just want to get all things nic out of my head. I don't want to come on here and read about fucking cavers. Or see people post every other day like this is a fucking joke.
I'm in physical pain everyday. the dr said it will always be there..  I've learned to ignore it. I'm strong like that.. I just delete it..
I hope that some major vets will comment on this for me.. I'm kinda lost right now...
Kana I'm no vet and definitely no expert and may get my ass fed to me one piece at a time (nothing new)! Since 1972 I've been an addict to alcohol and nicotine, I've been recovering from alcohol completely sober since October 1979 and nic free since 1:30 am April 1, 2012. Coming online and surrounding myself with talk of dip everyday does 2 positive things for me: 1. I am reminded everyday why I quit, how long I've been quit, what power nicotine has and how others facing the same challenges as me face them. 2. For me the second positive is the brotherhood and satisfaction that comes from paying the support I've received forward. This can be very satisfying and like anything in life it has it's opposites, some addicts just aren't ready or strong enough to stay quit.
Addressing cavers and half assed posters. We are all very different and at different junctions in life. Looking at the younger quitter or less self motivated quitter I see myself 5, 10, 20, 30 or 40 years ago. There was the time in 1979 I was a motivated quitter of both alcohol and tabacco and quit both cold turkey completely on my own. Both lasted for nearly 4 years till I caved to dip! My motivation to quit was my lovely wife who I married in 1980. What happened in 1983? Well real life happened, the honeymoon was over! What happened 146 days ago that makes my quit different, strong? Maturity and Motivation! I'm a damn slow learner. But I finally woke up and realized that quitting was what I wanted, I was so tired of being a slave!
You comment you feel Like a alcoholic working in a bar: I look at it kind of like raising kids you want to shield them from every danger and evil but if they aren't exposed to real life when they are faced with it they won't be equipped to deal with what comes their way. We live in the real world we are faced by temptation and challenges daily so there is no need to shrink or shun the fight but face it head on.
Listed to WT. Wise words right there from one badass quitter.

Kana, you don't have to spend that much time on the site if you don't want to. Just log on, post your promise to your quit group and then get on with your day. Make sure you have numbers and what not handy just in case, but nothing says you need to stick around and read anything else here.

Just do the most important thing for the day - post roll and take that nicotine off the table for the day.
What he said ^^^

Echoing those thoughts, you don't need to live on the site like some of us do. It works for me. What works for me may not work for you. Post roll every day as your promise to your brothers - and the rest of the site - that you will not use and then get on with your day. You don't need to be on here or thinking about here until the next morning when you post your promise again. I think that there is a lot to be gained by staying near the site and my reccomendation is that you do...BUT...I'm not in your brain. Do what works for you - just make sure you post up everyday and you honor it. You ever need to talk or have someone post for you -you've got my number.
kana, nice intro, and I'm damned glad to be quit with you.

I have come here to quit for 463 out of the past 466 days not to forget but to remember. I am an addict, and I need to fucking remember the law of addiction... "Administration of a drug to an addict will cause re-establishment of chemical dependence upon the addictive substance.". Just like the law of gravity, this law is something you cannot escape. You don't have to believe in it, but you are bound by its rules with absolute cerainty.

I have come here just about every day to support my friends that are fighting this fight beside me. Sometimes I'm their cornerman; other times they are mine. Neither would happen without daily posting. THAT level of friendship and brotherhood only comes from consistent and purposeful action and attention.

I am here every day (99.3% of the time that is... I'm both proud of that number and disappointed in the three failures it represents) because it saves me. At this point, I am probably good to go... I could skip weeks or months at a pop without posting. Probably not going to cave. I'm 99% sure. The thing is... I'm 100% sure that I'm not going to throw in a dip every day that I post roll. I fail to see a good reason to stop a 5 minute "chore" that guarantees my success.

The one major thing most cavers have in common on KTC is drifting away from the site. My quit brother from Aug 11, per, stopped posting after a year for the same reason you're throwing around.

On April 30 my man stopped posting.

On May 24, the badass quitter LLCope posted "LLCope -394- All these Quitheads negelecting their daily promise---they are starting to forget---dangerous! I can hear it now---"before I caved, I stopped posting with my group... I thought I had control...I forgot I was an addict"

On June 28th per, one of MY rocks, posted the following words: "My story is no different than any other failed quit. I had it licked. It was gone. I was master of my own destiny. I didn't need this place anymore. Coming here made me think of it every day, so I stopped coming here. And that's when my failure started. My quit failed on June 10, 2012."

Kana, the shit you are experiencing is normal, but keep posting. Those that drift away, cave. Those that don't, survive on a day by day basis.

Do me a favor, before you decide to stop posting here because it makes you remember dipping, message my man Per034 and see what he tells you.
yes sir.. i'm an addict. always have been .. always will be. i was definitely on the edge last few days, but I think it was her trying to gasp for the last bit of air. I've read enough to respect the roll, and there's no way I'll stop posting roll. Day by day I've been getting stronger again. It just through me for a loop. I felt like superman the first 14 days...then the wall. Today I can honestly say I'm feeling better. I can see this storm heading out. There will always be another one, but I'll be ready. My house is getting stronger..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 25, 2012, 01:02:00 AM
ok.. the last four days? I have no idea..I don't know what anxiety feels like but this shit was weird.. I wasn't physically craving chew at all. I just felt like i was in a very dark place.. I remembered someone saying they had a bad crave around day 16, 17 just as bad, 18 worse, 19 I was getting worried. Last night I wept like a baby (day 19) today day 20 and still the same. who has a five fucking day crave? Then my wife to the rescue..
My wife never cared if I chewed, i was no ninja. she would buy it for me. Told me she just wanted me to be happy. last week I told her I quit, and she said what ever makes you happy. I would tell her honey day 14! she could care less..
then today she asked me what was wrong.. I told her someone I know caved and I was having a hard time dealing with it.
her response: who cares about that guy, just concentrate on yourself. I couldn't believe she was saying the same thing as all of you..When I found KTC I knew this was it. I had finally decided to quit for myself..I told her I wanted to quit so I could live to take care of her and my son. She told me she didn't care because how many times I had failed quitting.
Today she told me she was proud of me, because she knew this time was it.. never made it this far.. so she said she'd help in any way. I needed that.
so thanks to the few who actually responded in my galactic 5 day crave.
I got home tonight feeling much better thank god...My son told me to put this fireman here and say aloha
javascript:emoticon("'fireman'")





--------------------
I will not die by my own hand..
Quit 08/05/2012
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 27, 2012, 10:18:00 AM
November 12....just as a reminder you're supposed to post roll every day...no matter what... farmboy text in his promise to another quitter to post for him when he couldn't... well done 'clap' ..I don't think there's anyone in here that doesn't have text? maybe it's time for the reserved spots, so everybody can see who's not serious...our group goes up or down by 10 everyday.. what the crap? wake up boys and I do mean boys.. The men know who they are..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on August 27, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: kana
ok.. the last four days? I have no idea..I don't know what anxiety feels like but this shit was weird.. I wasn't physically craving chew at all. I just felt like i was in a very dark place.. I remembered someone saying they had a bad crave around day 16, 17 just as bad, 18 worse, 19 I was getting worried. Last night I wept like a baby (day 19) today day 20 and still the same. who has a five fucking day crave? Then my wife to the rescue..
My wife never cared if I chewed, i was no ninja. she would buy it for me. Told me she just wanted me to be happy. last week I told her I quit, and she said what ever makes you happy. I would tell her honey day 14! she could care less..
then today she asked me what was wrong.. I told her someone I know caved and I was having a hard time dealing with it.
her response: who cares about that guy, just concentrate on yourself. I couldn't believe she was saying the same thing as all of you..When I found KTC I knew this was it. I had finally decided to quit for myself..I told her I wanted to quit so I could live to take care of her and my son. She told me she didn't care because how many times I had failed quitting.
Today she told me she was proud of me, because she knew this time was it.. never made it this far.. so she said she'd help in any way. I needed that.
so thanks to the few who actually responded in my galactic 5 day crave.
I got home tonight feeling much better thank god...My son told me to put this fireman here and say aloha
javascript:emoticon("'fireman'")





--------------------
I will not die by my own hand..
Quit 08/05/2012
I'm going to throw this into your group as well, but we've written this information for many groups for a while now:
Quote
I see that some of you have hit 20 days in your quit. Congratulations.

There is a major funk that is coming up shortly. It starts usually in the late teens. It does not make you crave nicotine. It's the opposite. It makes you think you are invincible and completely quit.

Take a look at the other months' spreadsheets. We lose many a fine quitter in the 20s. In fact, we lose more quitters in the 20s than any other time (except for the first week). I myself was almost a victim.

My thoughts on the funk are this:

The first week is complete hell. We all agree there. But, upon completion of the first week, we start to feel more comfortable with being quit. We get a sense of accomplishment for breaking that physical addiction, and our quits are fueled by adreneline.

Around day 20 (maybe later, maybe sooner), the adreneline starts to run out. Our brains want to tell us that we are quit, and we don't need to think about being quit all the time. We want normalcy, rather than having to feel committed to a website and anonymous strangers. We don't want to think that we used to stick cat turds in our mouths all the time, let alone that we are addicts. Even if we've embraced the label "addict" early in the quit, we wonder if we truly are at this time. We start to think that this roll call posting is silly business, because we are quit already. We begin hating all the bullshit on this site, and start thinking that the site is more drama than what it is worth.

This is the start to the planned cave.

Your addicted brain is letting the nic bitch have the microphone in your head and she is the one talking. She will tell you that she is gone, and that you don't need to post roll anymore. She'll tell you every lie under the sun to get you to stop giving your word everyday.

Some of you will decide she is right. You will leave. And you might not even cave right away, but you will. The nic bitch is a tricky whore, and she can sleep until you are the weakest.

Be very careful here. There is a lot of bullshit on this site, and it's meant to be a distraction for you. If it becomes too much, simply post roll and ignore it. Lean on your brothers. They are having these same thoughts, and the best thing you can do is to make sure that everybody keeps posting.



I stopped posting roll after 150 days in 2006. I caved in 2009 because I forgot I was an addict. The nic bitch had taken that time to break down every tool I learned here, and made me forget. She dug her claws in, and I manned up again 425 days ago today. I should be around 2000 days quit, and instead all I can claim is that I stopped for like 1,000 days and then again for 425.

EVERYDAY

Post roll.
Stay quit.
Repeat.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 27, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: kana
ok.. the last four days? I have no idea..I don't know what anxiety feels like but this shit was weird.. I wasn't physically craving chew at all. I just felt like i was in a very dark place.. I remembered someone saying they had a bad crave around day 16, 17 just as bad, 18 worse, 19 I was getting worried. Last night I wept like a baby (day 19) today day 20 and still the same. who has a five fucking day crave? Then my wife to the rescue..
My wife never cared if I chewed, i was no ninja. she would buy it for me. Told me she just wanted me to be happy. last week I told her I quit, and she said what ever makes you happy. I would tell her honey day 14! she could care less..
then today she asked me what was wrong.. I told her someone I know caved and I was having a hard time dealing with it.
her response: who cares about that guy, just concentrate on yourself. I couldn't believe she was saying the same thing as all of you..When I found KTC I knew this was it. I had finally decided to quit for myself..I told her I wanted to quit so I could live to take care of her and my son. She told me she didn't care because how many times I had failed quitting.
Today she told me she was proud of me, because she knew this time was it.. never made it this far.. so she said she'd help in any way. I needed that.
so thanks to the few who actually responded in my galactic 5 day crave.
I got home tonight feeling much better thank god...My son told me to put this fireman here and say aloha
javascript:emoticon("'fireman'")





--------------------
I will not die by my own hand..
Quit 08/05/2012
I'm going to throw this into your group as well, but we've written this information for many groups for a while now:
Quote
I see that some of you have hit 20 days in your quit. Congratulations.

There is a major funk that is coming up shortly. It starts usually in the late teens. It does not make you crave nicotine. It's the opposite. It makes you think you are invincible and completely quit.

Take a look at the other months' spreadsheets. We lose many a fine quitter in the 20s. In fact, we lose more quitters in the 20s than any other time (except for the first week). I myself was almost a victim.

My thoughts on the funk are this:

The first week is complete hell. We all agree there. But, upon completion of the first week, we start to feel more comfortable with being quit. We get a sense of accomplishment for breaking that physical addiction, and our quits are fueled by adreneline.

Around day 20 (maybe later, maybe sooner), the adreneline starts to run out. Our brains want to tell us that we are quit, and we don't need to think about being quit all the time. We want normalcy, rather than having to feel committed to a website and anonymous strangers. We don't want to think that we used to stick cat turds in our mouths all the time, let alone that we are addicts. Even if we've embraced the label "addict" early in the quit, we wonder if we truly are at this time. We start to think that this roll call posting is silly business, because we are quit already. We begin hating all the bullshit on this site, and start thinking that the site is more drama than what it is worth.

This is the start to the planned cave.

Your addicted brain is letting the nic bitch have the microphone in your head and she is the one talking. She will tell you that she is gone, and that you don't need to post roll anymore. She'll tell you every lie under the sun to get you to stop giving your word everyday.

Some of you will decide she is right. You will leave. And you might not even cave right away, but you will. The nic bitch is a tricky whore, and she can sleep until you are the weakest.

Be very careful here. There is a lot of bullshit on this site, and it's meant to be a distraction for you. If it becomes too much, simply post roll and ignore it. Lean on your brothers. They are having these same thoughts, and the best thing you can do is to make sure that everybody keeps posting.



I stopped posting roll after 150 days in 2006. I caved in 2009 because I forgot I was an addict. The nic bitch had taken that time to break down every tool I learned here, and made me forget. She dug her claws in, and I manned up again 425 days ago today. I should be around 2000 days quit, and instead all I can claim is that I stopped for like 1,000 days and then again for 425.

EVERYDAY

Post roll.
Stay quit.
Repeat.
Thanks waste... i put a smaller version in our month as well...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 31, 2012, 09:33:00 AM
well i'm slowly making my way through the trigger bucket list..
we all know moving sucks in general, but this was the first one without the nic bitch....glad to say I buried her in the yard of my old house... The new house doesn't allow bitches in the front door...
During my move I found 4 spit bottles. (no I didn't smell them) Into the garbage.. made me a little sick finding them actually, I can't believe I used to carry one of those in my pocket..dumbass... I found 3 cans of copenshitpiss... into the garbage thank you very much.. Found $65 worth of nic gum from many of those so called quit attempts.. into the garbage... On the last day found 6 nic patches... into the garbage...
Wow 4 triggers within a large trigger and I slapped that bitch good.. Then kicked her face into the dirt.. She will always come to haunt, but I will just tell her to go home.. Sorry bitches not welcome..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: bigwhitebeast on August 31, 2012, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: kana
well i'm slowly making my way through the trigger bucket list..
we all know moving sucks in general, but this was the first one without the nic bitch....glad to say I buried her in the yard of my old house... The new house doesn't allow bitches in the front door...
During my move I found 4 spit bottles. (no I didn't smell them) Into the garbage.. made me a little sick finding them actually, I can't believe I used to carry one of those in my pocket..dumbass... I found 3 cans of copenshitpiss... into the garbage thank you very much.. Found $65 worth of nic gum from many of those so called quit attempts.. into the garbage... On the last day found 6 nic patches... into the garbage...
Wow 4 triggers within a large trigger and I slapped that bitch good.. Then kicked her face into the dirt.. She will always come to haunt, but I will just tell her to go home.. Sorry bitches not welcome..
Very nice work Kana, glad to see you kicking her right in the teeth! Keep up the good work brother.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on September 01, 2012, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Quote from: kana
well i'm slowly making my way through the trigger bucket list..
we all know moving sucks in general, but this was the first one without the nic bitch....glad to say I buried her in the yard of my old house... The new house doesn't allow bitches in the front door...
During my move I found 4 spit bottles. (no I didn't smell them) Into  the garbage.. made me a little sick finding them actually, I can't believe I used to carry one of those in my pocket..dumbass... I found 3 cans of copenshitpiss... into the garbage thank you very much.. Found $65 worth of nic gum from many of those so called quit attempts.. into the garbage... On the last day found 6 nic patches... into the garbage...
Wow 4 triggers within a large trigger and I slapped that bitch good.. Then kicked her face into the dirt.. She will always come to haunt, but I will just tell her to go home.. Sorry bitches not welcome..
Very nice work Kana, glad to see you kicking her right in the teeth! Keep up the good work brother.
Love your attitude Kana! You got it right from the get-go!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on September 08, 2012, 10:25:00 AM
Time to check in.. please feel free to comment..I really don't know where I'm at right now.. first 2 weeks felt so peaceful.. high teens was a kick in the balls for 5 days.. Now I'm @ 35 and still feel the anger.. I thought I'd be further along by now.. I'm still thinking about it too much, I'm not physically craving the crap, but I just feel extremely out of whack,  angry.. I don't want to be a pussy, but most guys fogs don't seem to last that long? This has been going on for 2 weeks now.. my mouth feels good, I'm happy I'm not chewing, but I feel angry everyday... It's getting old.. I used to be on anxiety meds, but they made me black out one day and hit my head.. I stopped taking them..
I read how good others are doing and it seem's as though it's smooth sailing. make no mistake I will die nic free, but this shit is getting old....
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on September 08, 2012, 10:33:00 AM
Excercise helps me get through the rages. I run, lift, swim, bike, take a baseball bat to a tree, whatever it takes to break a sweat and work through my anger. I also sleep better when I am tired. I try to remember that nicotine isn't the answer to my rants and rages, they are just something that I need to work on each time they come up.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Kubrick on September 08, 2012, 10:35:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Time to check in.. please feel free to comment..I really don't know where I'm at right now.. first 2 weeks felt so peaceful.. high teens was a kick in the balls for 5 days.. Now I'm @ 35 and still feel the anger.. I thought I'd be further along by now.. I'm still thinking about it too much, I'm not physically craving the crap, but I just feel extremely out of whack,  angry.. I don't want to be a pussy, but most guys fogs don't seem to last that long? This has been going on for 2 weeks now.. my mouth feels good, I'm happy I'm not chewing, but I feel angry everyday... It's getting old.. I used to be on anxiety meds, but they made me black out one day and hit my head.. I stopped taking them..
I read how good others are doing and it seem's as though it's smooth sailing. make no mistake I will die nic free, but this shit is getting old....
The "fog" will come and go. Just wait until around 120 'no'

Just hang in there, it will go away. I got it bad around day 70 and then off and on until about 140. Feeling pretty good now, but I'm sure another one is around the corner with craves, moodiness, restlessness, etc.

I just consider it the price I have to pay for being a dumbass for 22 years. Stay close to the site, post roll and all the other stuff we do around here.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on September 08, 2012, 01:26:00 PM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: kana
Time to check in.. please feel free to comment..I really don't know where I'm at right now.. first 2 weeks felt so peaceful.. high teens was a kick in the balls for 5 days.. Now I'm @ 35 and still feel the anger.. I thought I'd be further along by now.. I'm still thinking about it too much, I'm not physically craving the crap, but I just feel extremely out of whack,  angry.. I don't want to be a pussy, but most guys fogs don't seem to last that long? This has been going on for 2 weeks now..  my mouth feels good, I'm happy I'm not chewing, but I feel angry everyday... It's getting old.. I used to be on anxiety meds, but they made me black out one day and hit my head.. I stopped taking them..
I read how good others are doing and it seem's as though it's smooth sailing. make no mistake I will die nic free, but this shit is getting old....
The "fog" will come and go. Just wait until around 120 'no'

Just hang in there, it will go away. I got it bad around day 70 and then off and on until about 140. Feeling pretty good now, but I'm sure another one is around the corner with craves, moodiness, restlessness, etc.

I just consider it the price I have to pay for being a dumbass for 22 years. Stay close to the site, post roll and all the other stuff we do around here.
guys,
I went for a long walk to clear the head. I haven't been able to walk for a couple weeks because I had to move. Felt good!! That's why I love this sight. a bunch of problem solvers! thanks Quit!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on September 09, 2012, 10:30:00 AM
What a difference a day makes. Day 36 and I just learned why you only focus on one day. The day before  yesterday was by far a couple of my worst day's. tired irritable scolded my son at 6am WTF?
My addictive being would always use nic instead of taking care of my body. All my adult life I would exercise for a month or two and then stop. Telling myself I could start back up after a break. reached my proper weight etc.. then 10 lbs back on. just a stupid cycle for years. just like the nic. well those days are over.
gr8whitebuffalo  kubrick gave me some very simple advice. Thanks for helping me get through 1 day.
I had (without thinking) stopped exercising for 2 weeks. I was moving, and working so didn't sit on the couch, but didn't have any alone time. ya no
Yesterday did my routine and felt great.
I was about ten minutes down the road (walking) jamming tunes and felt like something was missing. GUM I reached down in a panic to see if I had any.. YES I put 2 pieces in there!!! I slapped that gum in and felt complete. Thank god, and I started thinking wow I have reprogrammed.. Fuck ya!! my cravings are latching on to positive things. so today I'm a fucking quit beret!!
I definitely turned a corner. There's more to come, but now I'm ready and my quit is swelling, getting bigger, and effin solid.
Just get through one day no matter what, and tomorrow could be completely different..peace my quit brothers
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on October 05, 2012, 11:09:00 AM
Morning Ladies! I haven't written anything for almost a month? well better fix that. When I write it's mostly for myself, but feel free to comment. time to chime.
Everybody's quit is different. after all people are different. most of us have a similar path but walk differently, but end up in the same place. I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about other people. Just focus on yourself. the man (or woman) in the mirror. At first I thought this whole thing was about dipping, but in the process it has changed me to the core.
I was so focused, and enraged with all the idiots in this world. Believe me there are many. (Im a perfectionist) I lost focus of the one thing I can control, ME. I have gone from an angry man, to a more patient human being. The idiots are still there, but I have more important things to worry about. starting with not worrying.
Two weeks ago I lost it. On the side of the road in a deep depression crying like a baby. I was reaching out and texting my buddies, but felt so alone. All I could think of was Diesel. I was thinking about him and I started thinking I should go to the hospital. (depression runs in my family) My wife had called me like 12 times my phone was blowing up. After 30 min I decided to go home. My wife looked terrified. My son was scared shitless. I was at a new low.. emotionally exhausted. I decided to lay low for a bit thinking the site was messing with my head. I needed rest. I would post  go.
After a bit I started to re-evaluate my quit and decided to take the simple advice that I was given.

1. Take what you need, leave what you don't. It is said so much I was thinking this is stupid. But sometimes the solution is very simple. If you don't like someone else's quit than ignore it. We're all accomplishing the same thing. I was too worried about everybody else, and not focusing on myself.

2. Exercise - When I was at my worst I would exercise like a madman. It has saved me and I'm feeling like a champ.

I have started to focus on the things that help me. Ignore those that don't. Focus on your own quit ladies, leave your neighbor alone, and have a wonderful day....
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on October 06, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Morning Ladies! I haven't written anything for almost a month? well better fix that. When I write it's mostly for myself, but feel free to comment. time to chime.
Everybody's quit is different. after all people are different. most of us have a similar path but walk differently, but end up in the same place. I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about other people. Just focus on yourself. the man (or woman) in the mirror. At first I thought this whole thing was about dipping, but in the process it has changed me to the core.
I was so focused, and enraged with all the idiots in this world. Believe me there are many. (Im a perfectionist) I lost focus of the one thing I can control, ME. I have gone from an angry man, to a more patient human being. The idiots are still there, but I have more important things to worry about. starting with not worrying.
Two weeks ago I lost it. On the side of the road in a deep depression crying like a baby. I was reaching out and texting my buddies, but felt so alone. All I could think of was Diesel. I was thinking about him and I started thinking I should go to the hospital. (depression runs in my family) My wife had called me like 12 times my phone was blowing up. After 30 min I decided to go home. My wife looked terrified. My son was scared shitless. I was at a new low.. emotionally exhausted. I decided to lay low for a bit thinking the site was messing with my head. I needed rest. I would post  go.
After a bit I started to re-evaluate my quit and decided to take the simple advice that I was given.

1. Take what you need, leave what you don't. It is said so much I was thinking this is stupid. But sometimes the solution is very simple. If you don't like someone else's quit than ignore it. We're all accomplishing the same thing. I was too worried about everybody else, and not focusing on myself.

2. Exercise - When I was at my worst I would exercise like a madman. It has saved me and I'm feeling like a champ.

I have started to focus on the things that help me. Ignore those that don't. Focus on your own quit ladies, leave your neighbor alone, and have a wonderful day....
Hey -

ok am glad to see and hear that you are a king quitter in that Nov12 group, but am a little confused, concerned when I see something that you have written.

How how I agree and feel that is it so true that you should take what you need and leave the rest. This is the true test of being a person unto himself as it is analyzing everything that is happening to you and around you, and it is solely up to you and no one else, as to how you need to think, feel and act.

BUT - I have to disagree and be concerned when you say you will ignore others. I can say in my 97 days that there has been so much but never will I say that I will ignore it, as by ignoring it means that there is nothing I will take from it and that would be a big mistake. If there is something I don;t like, I do not ignore it, rather I learn from it and let it make my quit stronger.

So I hope this is what you meant, as if you did not I would take a little look back at it. As howerever assinine things may seem, you can learn from everything.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on October 07, 2012, 01:29:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Morning Ladies! I haven't written anything for almost a month? well better fix that. When I write it's mostly for myself, but feel free to comment. time to chime.
Everybody's quit is different. after all people are different. most of us have a similar path but walk differently, but end up in the same place. I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about other people. Just focus on yourself. the man (or woman) in the mirror. At first I thought this whole thing was about dipping, but in the process it has changed me to the core.
I was so focused, and enraged with all the idiots in this world. Believe me there are many. (Im a perfectionist) I lost focus of the one thing I can control, ME. I have gone from an angry man, to a more patient human being. The idiots are still there, but I have more important things to worry about. starting with not worrying.
Two weeks ago I lost it. On the side of the road in a deep depression crying like a baby. I was reaching out and texting my buddies, but felt so alone. All I could think of was Diesel. I was thinking about him and I started thinking I should go to the hospital. (depression runs in my family) My wife had called me like 12 times my phone was blowing up. After 30 min I decided to go home. My wife looked terrified. My son was scared shitless. I was at a new low.. emotionally exhausted. I decided to lay low for a bit thinking the site was messing with my head. I needed rest. I would post  go.
After a bit I started to re-evaluate my quit and decided to take the simple advice that I was given.

1. Take what you need, leave what you don't. It is said so much I was thinking this is stupid. But sometimes the solution is very simple. If you don't like someone else's quit than ignore it. We're all accomplishing the same thing. I was too worried about everybody else, and not focusing on myself.

2. Exercise - When I was at my worst I would exercise like a madman. It has saved me and I'm feeling like a champ.

I have started to focus on the things that help me. Ignore those that don't. Focus on your own quit ladies, leave your neighbor alone, and have a wonderful day....
Me? Don't think about me, I'm a nobody. I wasn't depressed a day in my life before I quit, never had a lick of anxiety either and none of it ran in my family. I was just blindsided by the power nic had over me and my body went haywire. I was also a complete pussy in the beginning, hence i left the sight for a bit because I was scared by the many tales of quit.

I got some meds to help me through and am now weening off them. My ultimate goal is to be med free in the next month or two. Sorry if my story scared you. Take what you need and leave the rest is a good model to follow though. Even at 126 days quit there are times I just post and run. Not that anything "scares" me anymore but it does get the wheels in my head turning sometimes and that can be dangerous too. I read for a few hrs one night and counted the words dip/chew like 337 times...shit can wear on you after awhile.

Stay quit!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on October 07, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: kana
Morning Ladies! I haven't written anything for almost a month? well better fix that. When I write it's mostly for myself, but feel free to comment. time to chime.
Everybody's quit is different. after all people are different. most of us have a similar path but walk differently, but end up in the same place. I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about other people. Just focus on yourself. the man (or woman) in the mirror. At first I thought this whole thing was about dipping, but in the process it has changed me to the core.
I was so focused, and enraged with all the idiots in this world. Believe me there are many. (Im a perfectionist) I lost focus of the one thing I can control, ME. I have gone from an angry man, to a more patient human being. The idiots are still there, but I have more important things to worry about. starting with not worrying.
Two weeks ago I lost it. On the side of the road in a deep depression crying like a baby. I was reaching out and texting my buddies, but felt so alone. All I could think of was Diesel. I was thinking about him and I started thinking I should go to the hospital. (depression runs in my family) My wife had called me like 12 times my phone was blowing up. After 30 min I decided to go home. My wife looked terrified. My son was scared shitless. I was at a new low.. emotionally exhausted. I decided to lay low for a bit thinking the site was messing with my head. I needed rest. I would post  go.
After a bit I started to re-evaluate my quit and decided to take the simple advice that I was given.

1. Take what you need, leave what you don't. It is said so much I was thinking this is stupid. But sometimes the solution is very simple. If you don't like someone else's quit than ignore it. We're all accomplishing the same thing. I was too worried about everybody else, and not focusing on myself.

2. Exercise - When I was at my worst I would exercise like a madman. It has saved me and I'm feeling like a champ.

I have started to focus on the things that help me. Ignore those that don't. Focus on your own quit ladies, leave your neighbor alone, and have a wonderful day....
Me? Don't think about me, I'm a nobody. I wasn't depressed a day in my life before I quit, never had a lick of anxiety either and none of it ran in my family. I was just blindsided by the power nic had over me and my body went haywire. I was also a complete pussy in the beginning, hence i left the sight for a bit because I was scared by the many tales of quit.

I got some meds to help me through and am now weening off them. My ultimate goal is to be med free in the next month or two. Sorry if my story scared you. Take what you need and leave the rest is a good model to follow though. Even at 126 days quit there are times I just post and run. Not that anything "scares" me anymore but it does get the wheels in my head turning sometimes and that can be dangerous too. I read for a few hrs one night and counted the words dip/chew like 337 times...shit can wear on you after awhile.

Stay quit!!!
Diesel, first of all your story didn't scare me. It gave me inspiration. There's a big difference. When I was thinking of you that day It was your story that ultimately saved me. I knew if you could get through it so could I. The beauty of this site is sometimes you'll help someone without even knowing it. Very powerful stuff.
I'm feeling much better now, and hope you are too. I'm quit with you everyday brother...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on October 07, 2012, 11:01:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: kana
Morning Ladies! I haven't written anything for almost a month? well better fix that. When I write it's mostly for myself, but feel free to comment. time to chime.
Everybody's quit is different. after all people are different. most of us have a similar path but walk differently, but end up in the same place. I guess I'm trying to say don't worry about other people. Just focus on yourself. the man (or woman) in the mirror. At first I thought this whole thing was about dipping, but in the process it has changed me to the core.
I was so focused, and enraged with all the idiots in this world. Believe me there are many. (Im a perfectionist) I lost focus of the one thing I can control, ME. I have gone from an angry man, to a more patient human being. The idiots are still there, but I have more important things to worry about. starting with not worrying.
Two weeks ago I lost it. On the side of the road in a deep depression crying like a baby. I was reaching out and texting my buddies, but felt so alone. All I could think of was Diesel. I was thinking about him and I started thinking I should go to the hospital. (depression runs in my family) My wife had called me like 12 times my phone was blowing up. After 30 min I decided to go home. My wife looked terrified. My son was scared shitless. I was at a new low.. emotionally exhausted. I decided to lay low for a bit thinking the site was messing with my head. I needed rest. I would post  go.
After a bit I started to re-evaluate my quit and decided to take the simple advice that I was given.

1. Take what you need, leave what you don't. It is said so much I was thinking this is stupid. But sometimes the solution is very simple. If you don't like someone else's quit than ignore it. We're all accomplishing the same thing. I was too worried about everybody else, and not focusing on myself.

2. Exercise - When I was at my worst I would exercise like a madman. It has saved me and I'm feeling like a champ.

I have started to focus on the things that help me. Ignore those that don't. Focus on your own quit ladies, leave your neighbor alone, and have a wonderful day....
Me? Don't think about me, I'm a nobody. I wasn't depressed a day in my life before I quit, never had a lick of anxiety either and none of it ran in my family. I was just blindsided by the power nic had over me and my body went haywire. I was also a complete pussy in the beginning, hence i left the sight for a bit because I was scared by the many tales of quit.

I got some meds to help me through and am now weening off them. My ultimate goal is to be med free in the next month or two. Sorry if my story scared you. Take what you need and leave the rest is a good model to follow though. Even at 126 days quit there are times I just post and run. Not that anything "scares" me anymore but it does get the wheels in my head turning sometimes and that can be dangerous too. I read for a few hrs one night and counted the words dip/chew like 337 times...shit can wear on you after awhile.

Stay quit!!!
Diesel, first of all your story didn't scare me. It gave me inspiration. There's a big difference. When I was thinking of you that day It was your story that ultimately saved me. I knew if you could get through it so could I. The beauty of this site is sometimes you'll help someone without even knowing it. Very powerful stuff.
I'm feeling much better now, and hope you are too. I'm quit with you everyday brother...
Kana you and Diesel are both bad ass quitters and examples to all of us. Never underestimate your own quit, I've done that and now realize those times I thought I was a pussy in reality surviving those times proved that I am the opposite because I'm still here and successful. Every person that comes here daily and makes a promise and then keeps there word are heroes to me and to their family and friends. But most of all recognize that you are your own hero, a kick ass quitter that is quitting one more day and growing stronger everyday by winning another battle! I know that both of you realize your success and I'm so very proud to call you my friends and fellow quitters.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on October 07, 2012, 12:05:00 PM
Oh good, I had this vision of you cursing me out on the side of the road. Lol.

I'm feeling 1000% better glad you're feeling better too. Sounds like we needed some time to step back and wrap our brains around this whole thing. I guess what they say is true, "whatever doesn't kill me, will only make me stronger". This quitting shit ain't easy but God damn it's worth it!!

Stay quit, my friend!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: BoomerSooner on October 07, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
This blows. Been stuck in Hotel working all day about to go stir. Decided to step out and see a little bit of beautiful San Diego and grab something to eat. Seemed like every gas station i drove by had signs up in the windows for cope, skoal, grizz just amazing. I pulled in went inside and grabbed three bags of seeds and thumbed my nose at those cans of death behind the counter. Will be up lllaaatteee tonight to have this stuff done for tomorrow. Means so much to have this outlet to sound off on. Would have been easy to cave and never come back but I am never crawling back into bed with that lying, thieving p.o.s.. I have found that seeds help tremendously along with Altoids Wintergreen and this community. Love my January Jackwagon Brothers. Hang in there sunshine.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on October 07, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Quote from: BoomerSooner
This blows. Been stuck in Hotel working all day about to go stir. Decided to step out and see a little bit of beautiful San Diego and grab something to eat. Seemed like every gas station i drove by had signs up in the windows for cope, skoal, grizz just amazing. I pulled in went inside and grabbed three bags of seeds and thumbed my nose at those cans of death behind the counter. Will be up lllaaatteee tonight to have this stuff done for tomorrow. Means so much to have this outlet to sound off on. Would have been easy to cave and never come back but I am never crawling back into bed with that lying, thieving p.o.s.. I have found that seeds help tremendously along with Altoids Wintergreen and this community. Love my January Jackwagon Brothers. Hang in there sunshine.
Well played. Every time you tell the nic bitch to fuck off when she's flirting with you, you score a small victory. Over time they add up and it gets easier and easier to pimp slap her down. Alone in a hotel is a tough one, I know that from experience. You should be proud!!! Stay quit!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on October 11, 2012, 11:01:00 AM
I was reading through my calendar from a year ago as I always do for work. I had entries to take my brother in law to the hospital for rehab. He's gone now. passed 5 months ago. He was an innocent hardworking man. I can remember him working 7 days a week for years on end. Having a few beers here and there. Saying he'd rest when he retires. He would always come over and help me with repairs on the house. He taught me so much. He died at the ripe old age of 50.. Never saw retirement. Left behind his wife, and 2 young boys. Maundrey is too young and will never remember his father.
He was not an addict. Well maybe a work addict. He died of cancer in the brain. Went through 2 surgeries. Cut his head open from ear to ear. I never heard him complain once. Not once. Only asked for tylenol. I would drive him to the hospital twice a week for therapy. He could hardly walk. Just shriveling up. Here I was with a dip in the whole time watching him die in front of me.. Not even thinking about it.
Three months after he passed I was sent an email. It was a video scrapbook of Freddie, his wife, and the boys.. Picture after picture.. It brought me to tears to see what he was missing. What they are missing. There's no pain in the world greater to me than knowing you'll leave behind you're family. I told myself I was done. I quit for myself, but I owed it to Freddie, and my family as well. That was the weekend I quit. That was the weekend I took back my life. Stay quit brothers.. Life is short.. be good to yourself and others..
I miss you Freddie.. I miss you so much.. and I'll never put that crap in my mouth again..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Radman on October 11, 2012, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: kana
I was reading through my calendar from a year ago as I always do for work. I had entries to take my brother in law to the hospital for rehab. He's gone now. passed 5 months ago. He was an innocent hardworking man. I can remember him working 7 days a week for years on end. Having a few beers here and there. Saying he'd rest when he retires. He would always come over and help me with repairs on the house. He taught me so much. He died at the ripe old age of 50.. Never saw retirement. Left behind his wife, and 2 young boys. Maundrey is too young and will never remember his father.
He was not an addict. Well maybe a work addict. He died of cancer in the brain. Went through 2 surgeries. Cut his head open from ear to ear. I never heard him complain once. Not once. Only asked for tylenol. I would drive him to the hospital twice a week for therapy. He could hardly walk. Just shriveling up. Here I was with a dip in the whole time watching him die in front of me.. Not even thinking about it.
Three months after he passed I was sent an email. It was a video scrapbook of Freddie, his wife, and the boys.. Picture after picture.. It brought me to tears to see what he was missing. What they are missing. There's no pain in the world greater to me than knowing you'll leave behind you're family. I told myself I was done. I quit for myself, but I owed it to Freddie, and my family as well. That was the weekend I quit. That was the weekend I took back my life. Stay quit brothers.. Life is short.. be good to yourself and others..
I miss you Freddie.. I miss you so much.. and I'll never put that crap in my mouth again..
Powerful words, sir. Thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on October 11, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: kana
I was reading through my calendar from a year ago as I always do for work. I had entries to take my brother in law to the hospital for rehab. He's gone now. passed 5 months ago.  He was an innocent hardworking man. I can remember him working 7 days a week for years on end. Having a few beers here and there. Saying he'd rest when he retires.  He would always come over and help me with repairs on the house. He taught me so much.  He died at the ripe old age of 50.. Never saw retirement.  Left behind his wife, and 2 young boys. Maundrey is too young and will never remember his father.
He was not an addict. Well maybe a work addict. He died of cancer in the brain. Went through 2 surgeries. Cut his head open from ear to ear. I never heard him complain once. Not once. Only asked for tylenol. I would drive him to the hospital twice a week for therapy. He could hardly walk. Just shriveling up. Here I was with a dip in the whole time watching him die in front of me.. Not even thinking about it.
Three months after he passed I was sent an email. It was a video scrapbook of Freddie, his wife, and the boys.. Picture after picture.. It brought me to tears to see what he was missing. What they are missing. There's no pain in the world greater to me than knowing you'll leave behind you're family. I told myself I was done.  I quit for myself, but I owed it to Freddie, and my family as well. That was the weekend I quit. That was the weekend I took back my life. Stay quit brothers.. Life is short.. be good to yourself and others..
I miss you Freddie.. I miss you so much.. and I'll never put that crap in my mouth again..
Powerful words, sir. Thank you for sharing.
I'll second that.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Gunner75 on October 11, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Thanks Kana, that was the kick I needed today.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on October 19, 2012, 09:14:00 AM
I thought I went through all of my triggers already, but I was wrong. Yesterday I golfed for the first time in almost a year. (can't believe I just said that) Work has been busy, kid, etc...Just haven't had time.. Well of course I made it through the round no problems. (except the swing) I DID think about the cancer producing worm dirt created by the devil, twice...Lately as I've been reading the word (try), and (last time) has been sticking out for me. I remembered back to the last round of golf with my Brother in law last year. He told me he got some new peach flavored chew, and offered it to me. I specifically remember telling him no thanks I'm TRYING to quit chew. That was probably the 100th time I TRIED, and It didn't work. This time is different. This time I quit. no try. just quit.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Scowick65 on October 19, 2012, 09:45:00 AM
Quote from: kana
I thought I went through all of my triggers already, but I was wrong. Yesterday I golfed for the first time in almost a year. (can't believe I just said that) Work has been busy, kid, etc...Just haven't had time.. Well of course I made it through the round no problems. (except the swing) I DID think about the cancer producing worm dirt created by the devil, twice...Lately as I've been reading the word (try), and (last time) has been sticking out for me. I remembered back to the last round of golf with my Brother in law last year. He told me he got some new peach flavored chew, and offered it to me. I specifically remember telling him no thanks I'm TRYING to quit chew. That was probably the 100th time I TRIED, and It didn't work. This time is different. This time I quit. no try. just quit.
no try. just quit. -------------- Warm, warmer...Disco!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 01, 2012, 10:35:00 AM
Yesterday was very interesting for me. I finally decided to tackle the 10 hours of yard work I needed to do.. Halfway through My friend (pool guy) came with a new employee..Holy crap this guy had a monster Effin dip in.. He could barely talk without spit running down his chin.. It was actually quite disgusting looking.. Then I started to remember that I looked like that. My mind is definitely changing as I didn't crave at all. I just felt sorry for him.. These things now add another layer of armor to my quit. Just makes me feel good that I'm no longer a slave. Ended up taking all the kids trick or treating..followed by everyone getting drunk.. except me I don't drink.. For years I was the drunkard with a fatty making a fool of myself.. Now I'm the cool and collected handsome guy sitting and watching everyone else make a fool of themselves.
AAHHH the benefits of a bad ass quitter!!! Love my job!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on November 01, 2012, 10:37:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Yesterday was very interesting for me. I finally decided to tackle the 10 hours of yard work I needed to do.. Halfway through My friend (pool guy) came with a new employee..Holy crap this guy had a monster Effin dip in.. He could barely talk without spit running down his chin.. It was actually quite disgusting looking.. Then I started to remember that I looked like that. My mind is definitely changing as I didn't crave at all. I just felt sorry for him.. These things now add another layer of armor to my quit. Just makes me feel good that I'm no longer a slave. Ended up taking all the kids trick or treating..followed by everyone getting drunk.. except me I don't drink.. For years I was the drunkard with a fatty making a fool of myself.. Now I'm the cool and collected handsome guy sitting and watching everyone else make a fool of themselves.
AAHHH the benefits of a bad ass quitter!!! Love my job!!!
Well Done as a huge step is realizing the disgust. Let this strengthen your quit to new heights.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Souliman on November 01, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: kana
Yesterday was very interesting for me. I finally decided to tackle the 10 hours of yard work I needed to do.. Halfway through My friend (pool guy) came with a new employee..Holy crap this guy had a monster Effin dip in.. He could barely talk without spit running down his chin.. It was actually quite disgusting looking.. Then I started to remember that I looked like that. My mind is definitely changing as I didn't crave at all. I just felt sorry for him.. These things now add another layer of armor to my quit. Just makes me feel good that I'm no longer a slave. Ended up taking all the kids trick or treating..followed by everyone getting drunk.. except me I don't drink.. For years I was the drunkard with a fatty making a fool of myself.. Now I'm the cool and collected handsome guy sitting and watching everyone else make a fool of themselves.
AAHHH the benefits of a bad ass quitter!!! Love my job!!!
Well Done as a huge step is realizing the disgust. Let this strengthen your quit to new heights.
Nice work brother. Way to stay on the path.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on November 01, 2012, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: kana
Yesterday was very interesting for me. I finally decided to tackle the 10 hours of yard work I needed to do.. Halfway through My friend (pool guy) came with a new employee..Holy crap this guy had a monster Effin dip in.. He could barely talk without spit running down his chin.. It was actually quite disgusting looking.. Then I started to remember that I looked like that. My mind is definitely changing as I didn't crave at all. I just felt sorry for him.. These things now add another layer of armor to my quit. Just makes me feel good that I'm no longer a slave. Ended up taking all the kids trick or treating..followed by everyone getting drunk.. except me I don't drink.. For years I was the drunkard with a fatty making a fool of myself.. Now I'm the cool and collected handsome guy sitting and watching everyone else make a fool of themselves.
AAHHH the benefits of a bad ass quitter!!! Love my job!!!
Well Done as a huge step is realizing the disgust. Let this strengthen your quit to new heights.
Nice work brother. Way to stay on the path.
So proud to be quit with men like you Kana.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: dj2150 on November 05, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: Radman
Quote from: kana
I was reading through my calendar from a year ago as I always do for work. I had entries to take my brother in law to the hospital for rehab. He's gone now. passed 5 months ago.  He was an innocent hardworking man. I can remember him working 7 days a week for years on end. Having a few beers here and there. Saying he'd rest when he retires.  He would always come over and help me with repairs on the house. He taught me so much.  He died at the ripe old age of 50.. Never saw retirement.  Left behind his wife, and 2 young boys. Maundrey is too young and will never remember his father.
He was not an addict. Well maybe a work addict. He died of cancer in the brain. Went through 2 surgeries. Cut his head open from ear to ear. I never heard him complain once. Not once. Only asked for tylenol. I would drive him to the hospital twice a week for therapy. He could hardly walk. Just shriveling up. Here I was with a dip in the whole time watching him die in front of me.. Not even thinking about it.
Three months after he passed I was sent an email. It was a video scrapbook of Freddie, his wife, and the boys.. Picture after picture.. It brought me to tears to see what he was missing. What they are missing. There's no pain in the world greater to me than knowing you'll leave behind you're family. I told myself I was done.  I quit for myself, but I owed it to Freddie, and my family as well. That was the weekend I quit. That was the weekend I took back my life. Stay quit brothers.. Life is short.. be good to yourself and others..
I miss you Freddie.. I miss you so much.. and I'll never put that crap in my mouth again..
Powerful words, sir. Thank you for sharing.
I'll second that.
+3

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on November 12, 2012, 08:31:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Wow, I can't believe I'm finally at this point. HOLY CRAP!!!! Enough already.
I'm 44 now. I Met the bitch when I was 14. SKOAL. Walking home after school, I remember having to lay down in the middle of the Football field because I was spinning so bad. I didn't really like it and slowly started smoking, and drinking.
In those days you just bought your shit from a vending machine.
At the 10 yr point of my marriage I was drinking way too much. Smoking way too much. and hit my bottom. I quit drinking and smoking cold. Aug. 15th will be 8 yrs. sober. Been married 18 yrs. now. and a wonderful son (5YR).
Unfortunately, I picked up the copenhagen to get me through it. I told myself it was temporary, and I could quit at will. Well almost 8 yrs. later and I tried to quit how many times. Last year I went 8 months without dipping and caved. Just that one dip fucked it up. I regret that dip. I've had the bitch in my system one way or another for 30 years. but this time it's different. I know what I have to do. Keep it simply and keep support.
This time it's different, this time I AM Quit. FUCK YOU BITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats Kana! You've come a long way but there's still some work to be done.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 12, 2012, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: copingwithoutcopen
Quote from: kana
Wow, I can't believe I'm finally at this point. HOLY CRAP!!!! Enough already.
I'm 44 now. I Met the bitch when I was 14. SKOAL. Walking home after school, I remember having to lay down in the middle of the Football field because I was spinning so bad. I didn't really like it and slowly started smoking, and drinking.
In those days you just bought your shit from a vending machine.
At the 10 yr point of my marriage I was drinking way too much. Smoking way too much. and hit my bottom.  I quit drinking and smoking cold. Aug. 15th will be 8 yrs. sober. Been married 18 yrs. now. and a wonderful son (5YR).
Unfortunately, I picked up the copenhagen to get me through it. I told myself it was temporary, and I could quit at will. Well almost 8 yrs. later and I tried to quit how many times. Last year I went 8 months without dipping and caved. Just that one dip fucked it up. I regret that dip. I've had the bitch in my system one way or another for 30 years. but this time it's different. I know what I have to do. Keep it simply and keep support.
This time it's different, this time I AM Quit. FUCK YOU BITCH!!!!!!!!!!
Congrats Kana! You've come a long way but there's still some work to be done.
absolutely... I just finished making my son  nephew breakfast.. It's my other nephews b-day as well, and we have a fun day planned.. I'm focused on the simple things now. (Love how my taste  smell work now)
I have likened my quit to a wound. It was an effin gash but it did heal. It took 100 days to heal, and the scab finally came off. Now it's a scar. The scar will be there for life, but the pain is gone. It will always remind me of that gash and how painful the quit was. With time the scar will fade and I won't notice it as often, but it will always be there. Quit with all my brothers  sisters today! :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 16, 2012, 11:19:00 AM
Ok saw something really dumb this morning. This is for Radman as he put it best "be prepared to notice addicts doing dumb things."
I was sick as a dog last couple days. This morning after dropping my son to school I stopped at Walgreens to get some meds.. (Keep in mind it's 8:15 am.) The guy in front of me was fairly young in his mid 20's obviously a regular, as the lady new what he wanted. 4 packs of smokes. He also had 1 cs of beer. (That was me 20 years ago) The attendant complimented him on the smokes. I guess she was a smoker also, and had tried them. They were supposedly ALL NATURAL. Anyway back  forth, how good they are. The lady said she even recommends them to her customers. Sad..
These were 2 addicts having a conversation, and trying to justify the fact that they're killing themselves.. The conversation sounded really stupid to a normal person (ME). I felt good as a non-drinker, non nic brotha, but I also felt bad I didn't say something. Like ALL NATURAL my ASS! It will still kill you.. I just minded my own business, and thanked god that I'm not like that anymore... I couldn't do anything for them today, but I share this to help my brothers to keep focus on the prize.. Normalcy..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 16, 2012, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Ok saw something really dumb this morning. This is for Radman as he put it best "be prepared to notice addicts doing dumb things."
I was sick as a dog last couple days. This morning after dropping my son to school I stopped at Walgreens to get some meds.. (Keep in mind it's 8:15 am.)  The guy in front of me was fairly young in his mid 20's obviously a regular, as the lady new what he wanted. 4 packs of smokes. He also had 1 cs of beer. (That was me 20 years ago) The attendant complimented him on the smokes.  I guess she was a smoker also, and had tried them. They were supposedly ALL NATURAL. Anyway back  forth, how good they are. The lady said she even recommends them to her customers. Sad.. 
These were 2 addicts having a conversation, and trying to justify the fact that they're killing themselves.. The conversation sounded really stupid to a normal person (ME). I felt good as a non-drinker, non nic brotha, but I also felt bad I didn't say something. Like ALL NATURAL my ASS! It will still kill you.. I just minded my own business, and thanked god that I'm not like that anymore... I couldn't do anything for them today, but I share this to help my brothers to keep focus on the prize.. Normalcy..
Kana,

I went to a simple court proceeding as support for a friend. His case was coming up but they were behind so I got to sit and listen to testimonies and cases etc.

I got bored and walked outside to make a call. There were about 4 different individuals standing by their cars smoking. I focused on one guy. He looks like a hard working guy. The type of "blue collar" American that makes our country move. I thought that I liked people like this that work to earn their bread.

Since I was quit I did notice him smoking. Well fast forward to back in court. This guy comes in and is sitting in front of me while this girl is giving her statement of a guy that she claims was stalking her.

He obviously was the father of this girl. I suddenly saw a dad that loved his daughter. I also saw an addict that worshiped nicotine and the Father he probably wanted to be, he couldn't be because his addiction enslaved him. I really think nicotine lowers IQ. Not for good but while you are in its power.

Now that I am quit, observing those who still worship the can or smokes....They don't come across as world beaters. Yeah I guess the harshness is they seem stupid.

I kind of went off but all I meant to say is I know what you are talking about. Our blinders are off and so glad to be quit with real quitters.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 20, 2012, 12:48:00 PM
I'm old enough to know that a morning perspective is alway's different from the evening before. "Hence sleeping on it" I tried to focus on what was setting me off. It was pretty obvious. A lack of exercise. Exercise was at the core of my quit. It helped me in my dark days. I hurt my back 3 weeks ago, so I decided to take a break. Problem was I felt good last week but never did anything. I was getting complacent, and in turn thinking too much, and KTCing too much, and eating too much. I finally bought a family gym membership with the savings. I hadn't even gone yet. My wife - everyday. After my bitch breakdown yesterday I decided to get off my ass. This morning I went to the gym after I dropped my son to school. IT FELT GREAT! The best part is they have an indoor heated pool. I can do laps every morning now no excuses. Swimming is the only thing I can do that doesn't irritate my old injuries.
Sorry for the unnecessary bitching yesterday. I'm feeling better now..
I quit with all of you understanding, tittie loving, but plugging, fuckwads...
Have a nice day :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 21, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
yesterday as mentioned I started feeling better.. Then out of the blue my wife said let's go to a movie! Oh crap... I haven't been to a movie in a year. Then I started thinking I haven't been to a movie without a dip since like 1980? Wow I started too panic. We had 20 minutes till it started. Once we got there bought some popcorn. (ALWAYS have gum  butterrum lifesavers in my pocket!) Anyway watched the movie. We were at home hours later, and my son came in and asked me what I did today. Your mom  me went to a movie. Then It hit me..from the time I first freaked out to now, I didn't think about dip once!! I went the whole movie and half the day, and she never came back in my mind. When she did it was a positive thought! Long story short. I felt victorious. This was a trigger I forgot about, but it was a trigger that I ignored thanks to my tools.. Me 109 - Nic bitch 0! Sorry gotta dance! 'dance' 'dance' 'dance'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 21, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: kana
yesterday as mentioned I started feeling better.. Then out of the blue my wife said let's go to a movie! Oh crap... I haven't been to a movie in a year. Then I started thinking I haven't been to a movie without a dip since like 1980? Wow I started too panic. We had 20 minutes till it started. Once we got there bought some popcorn. (ALWAYS have gum  butterrum lifesavers in my pocket!) Anyway watched the movie. We were at home hours later, and my son came in and asked me what I did today. Your mom  me went to a movie. Then It hit me..from the time I first freaked out to now, I didn't think about dip once!! I went the whole movie and half the day, and she never came back in my mind. When she did it was a positive thought! Long story short. I felt victorious. This was a trigger I forgot about, but it was a trigger that I ignored thanks to my tools.. Me 109 - Nic bitch 0! Sorry gotta dance! 'dance' 'dance' 'dance'
Bravo Kana!

Nicotine can piss up wind for all I care. We don't need her and never did! :Winner: Victory is sweet!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 23, 2012, 10:45:00 AM
Ok I tried to change my avatar and now it's all fucked up.. It keeps defaulting to one that I don't want, and I can't change the wording under my avatar. It says FLOOZY? not sure where that came from? not me.. Is someone fucking with me, or is something wrong with the site right now? I'm about to go yell at the shrubbs again...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on November 23, 2012, 11:02:00 AM
i think that the more posts you post, the many different names you earn on KTC. Slut, whore, floozy, its kinda like an achievement. Congrats you big floozy.

Not sure about the avatar problem. I do know they can't be larger than 100 x 100 pixels in size.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on November 23, 2012, 11:03:00 AM
I am a bimbo hoping to work my way up to floozy. Nice.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 23, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
Quote from: GR8WHITEBUFFALO
i think that the more posts you post, the many different names you earn on KTC. Slut, whore, floozy, its kinda like an achievement. Congrats you big floozy.

Not sure about the avatar problem. I do know they can't be larger than 100 x 100 pixels in size.
ok.. I know I'm a floozy I just don't wear it on my sleeve. lol I was able to change the wording in that section before  now I can't find the option. Think I'm goin crazy.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 23, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: GR8WHITEBUFFALO
i think that the more posts you post, the many different names you earn on KTC. Slut, whore, floozy, its kinda like an achievement. Congrats you big floozy.

Not sure about the avatar problem. I do know they can't be larger than 100 x 100 pixels in size.
ok.. I know I'm a floozy I just don't wear it on my sleeve. lol I was able to change the wording in that section before  now I can't find the option. Think I'm goin crazy.
aaahhh that's better.. ty
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on November 23, 2012, 12:20:00 PM
Makana, is that hawaiian for floozy?
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on November 23, 2012, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: GR8WHITEBUFFALO
Makana, is that hawaiian for floozy?
well I'm a haole hawaiian floozy for sure lol... but Makana is my sons middle name, and it means "Gods Gift"
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on November 23, 2012, 03:01:00 PM
That is a very cool name. I am going to stick with Bimbo as it suits me better and keep posting until I reach supreme super slut or whatever KTC has in waiting for me.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: bigwhitebeast on December 02, 2012, 07:12:00 PM
Powerful HoF speech my brother, well played sir. Proud to be quit with you Kana.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: loot on December 02, 2012, 07:44:00 PM
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Powerful HoF speech my brother, well played sir. Proud to be quit with you Kana.
Indeed. Thanks for taking the time. The site is better for it.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 02, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: loot
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Powerful HoF speech my brother, well played sir. Proud to be quit with you Kana.
Indeed. Thanks for taking the time. The site is better for it.
My pleasure.. I'm proud to be quit with all you wonderful people. Life is Good..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: RAZD611 on December 03, 2012, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: loot
Quote from: Bigwhitebeast
Powerful HoF speech my brother, well played sir. Proud to be quit with you Kana.
Indeed. Thanks for taking the time. The site is better for it.
My pleasure.. I'm proud to be quit with all you wonderful people. Life is Good..
Well Sais and Congrats!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 07, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
I've done some maturing KTC style this week, and want to chime on being (SELFISH). 'Finger'
All those years of nic was just pure selfishness. The only beneficiary was myself, and unfortunately the tobacco companies that stole my money.
I read 2 posts this week that really sunk in.
I had to look at the spreadsheet (thanks pitt) to see what day I'm on. 125.
In the beginning I had difficulty coming to the site as I thought it reminded me of dip. I'm glad I stuck around to watch the whole movie.
Coming to the site daily, and making your promise not to use is YOUR medicine. The accountability is what drove me. I didn't want to let any of my quit bro's down. This was the first step to remove Selfishness from my life. For once I was thinking of others. As my quit matured I started watching quitters with (hope) fall to the side, this made me question the benefits of seeing this firsthand as well.
I too was looking for that HOF day 100 I'm better now crap. 100 came and went, but I already made my choice. I know I'll never dip again, and I've accepted that fact. However I won't accept being selfish.
The day # has been a thorn in my side. I made the choice to quit. No matter what day it is, but that was selfish thinking. The day# helps a vet to see where you're at in your quit, so they can give the proper support. Now I realize there are truly different levels in this quit, and the support like your# changes as well.
I also thought about leaving like some of the others. But that would be selfish. The lady who helped me quit drinking was an alcoholic. If she didn't stick around to help out I wouldn't be here. The quit will mature and the things that bothered you before are now disappearing.
When they say it will get better, they're really saying you will think differently. When I come to the site I don't think about dip anymore. I think about my friends and their well being, and how I can help.
I truly appreciate all the vets for sticking around and continuing to pay it forward, and for saying the right things at the right time. My family thanks you!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Kubrick on December 07, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I've done some maturing KTC style this week, and want to chime on being (SELFISH). 'Finger'
All those years of nic was just pure selfishness. The only beneficiary was myself, and unfortunately the tobacco companies that stole my money.
I read 2 posts this week that really sunk in.
I had to look at the spreadsheet (thanks pitt) to see what day I'm on. 125.
In the beginning I had difficulty coming to the site as I thought it reminded me of dip. I'm glad I stuck around to watch the whole movie.
Coming to the site daily, and making your promise not to use is YOUR medicine. The accountability is what drove me. I didn't want to let any of my quit bro's down. This was the first step to remove Selfishness from my life. For once I was thinking of others. As my quit matured I started watching quitters with (hope) fall to the side, this made me question the benefits of seeing this firsthand as well.
I too was looking for that HOF day 100 I'm better now crap. 100 came and went, but I already made my choice. I know I'll never dip again, and I've accepted that fact. However I won't accept being selfish.
The day # has been a thorn in my side. I made the choice to quit. No matter what day it is, but that was selfish thinking. The day# helps a vet to see where you're at in your quit, so they can give the proper support. Now I realize there are truly different levels in this quit, and the support like your# changes as well.
I also thought about leaving like some of the others. But that would be selfish. The lady who helped me quit drinking was an alcoholic. If she didn't stick around to help out I wouldn't be here. The quit will mature and the things that bothered you before are now disappearing.
When they say it will get better, they're really saying you will think differently. When I come to the site I don't think about dip anymore. I think about my friends and their well being, and how I can help.
I truly appreciate all the vets for sticking around and continuing to pay it forward, and for saying the right things at the right time. My family thanks you!
Good stuff right here. I have posted 100% for 259 days and I've been quit for 259 days as well.

I don't think about dip when I'm here, but I am reminded I'm an addict and that I need to make my daily promise to not use that crap. Because I can tell you even after 250+ days, the thought of having one creeps into the brain every once in a while.

It's much better to know you already made a promise here when those thoughts come, than walking away from the place and not having any accountability.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 08, 2012, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: kana
I've done some maturing KTC style this week, and want to chime on being (SELFISH). 'Finger'
All those years of nic was just pure selfishness. The only beneficiary was myself, and unfortunately the tobacco companies that stole my money.
I read 2 posts this week that really sunk in.
I had to look at the spreadsheet (thanks pitt) to see what day I'm on. 125.
In the beginning I had difficulty coming to the site as I thought it reminded me of dip. I'm glad I stuck around to watch the whole movie.
Coming to the site daily, and making your promise not to use is YOUR medicine. The accountability is what drove me. I didn't want to let any of my quit bro's down. This was the first step to remove Selfishness from my life. For once I was thinking of others. As my quit matured I started watching quitters with (hope) fall to the side, this made me question the benefits of seeing this firsthand as well.
I too was looking for that HOF day 100 I'm better now crap. 100 came and went, but I already made my choice. I know I'll never dip again, and I've accepted that fact. However I won't accept being selfish.
The day # has been a thorn in my side. I made the choice to quit. No matter what day it is, but that was selfish thinking. The day# helps a vet to see where you're at in your quit, so they can give the proper support. Now I realize there are truly different levels in this quit, and the support like your# changes as well.
I also thought about leaving like some of the others. But that would be selfish. The lady who helped me quit drinking was an alcoholic. If she didn't stick around to help out I wouldn't be here. The quit will mature and the things that bothered you before are now disappearing.
When they say it will get better, they're really saying you will think differently. When I come to the site I don't think about dip anymore. I think about my friends and their well being, and how I can help.
I truly appreciate all the vets for sticking around and continuing to pay it forward, and for saying the right things at the right time. My family thanks you!
Good stuff right here. I have posted 100% for 259 days and I've been quit for 259 days as well.

I don't think about dip when I'm here, but I am reminded I'm an addict and that I need to make my daily promise to not use that crap. Because I can tell you even after 250+ days, the thought of having one creeps into the brain every once in a while.

It's much better to know you already made a promise here when those thoughts come, than walking away from the place and not having any accountability.
agreed.. better to be safe then sorry. My promise makes me feel as though I carry a 12 gauge around at all times waiting for her to stick that head out. I will bash her any chance I can get, but thankfully I don't see her much anymore...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 13, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
My quit is like a beret, a ranger, seal, what have you. I've never been in the military (highest respect  thanks), but I'm a good quit soldier. I've seen as of late some failures in a couple regards, (in my opinion) and want you all to think about what kind of quit you have.
I watched a show once about seals training camp. You're gonna know the first day wether you'll make it or not. The strong realize the weak will fall to the side as this is a normal process. Others failures doesn't change their mindset, and the training is priority. They know in the end they'll have an elite force of dangerous individuals, and un-stoppable as a team. It doesn't mean the weak don't have heart. They just don't have the non failure determination.
You're backed in a corner all by yourself, they have a knife. What are you gonna do? You're gonna do what ever it takes to stay alive. It's a natural instinct to survive, but some are stronger than others. The mindset is no matter how bad it gets failure is not an option. This is how my quit feels. Sure there's pain, so what. Give me more and I'll just block that pain too. My quit consumes weakness, and get's smarter, stronger, more efficient.. I decided on the first day that this would be my mind set. Failure is NOT an option. Care to join me? B)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Tazbutane on December 13, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: kana
My quit is like a beret, a ranger, seal, what have you. I've never been in the military (highest respect  thanks), but I'm a good quit soldier. I've seen as of late some failures in a couple regards, (in my opinion) and want you all to think about what kind of quit you have.
I watched a show once about seals training camp. You're gonna know the first day wether you'll make it or not. The strong realize the weak will fall to the side as this is a normal process. Others failures doesn't change their mindset, and the training is priority. They know in the end they'll have an elite force of dangerous individuals, and un-stoppable as a team. It doesn't mean the weak don't have heart. They just don't have the non failure determination.
You're backed in a corner all by yourself, they have a knife. What are you gonna do? You're gonna do what ever it takes to stay alive. It's a natural instinct to survive, but some are stronger than others. The mindset is no matter how bad it gets failure is not an option. This is how my quit feels. Sure there's pain, so what. Give me more and I'll just block that pain too. My quit consumes weakness, and get's smarter, stronger, more efficient.. I decided on the first day that this would be my mind set. Failure is NOT an option. Care to join me? B)
I will join you kana.

I don't have to carry a log over my head through the surf do I?

Semper Fi brother
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: eric71 on December 13, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
Quote from: tazbutane
Quote from: kana
My quit is like a beret, a ranger, seal, what have you. I've never been in the military (highest respect  thanks), but I'm a good quit soldier. I've seen as of late some failures in a couple regards, (in my opinion) and want you all to think about what kind of quit you have.
I watched a show once about seals training camp. You're gonna know the first day wether you'll make it or not. The strong realize the weak will fall to the side as this is a normal process. Others failures doesn't change their mindset, and the training is priority. They know in the end they'll have an elite force of dangerous individuals, and un-stoppable as a team. It doesn't mean the weak don't have heart. They just don't have the non failure determination.
You're backed in a corner all by yourself,  they have a knife. What are you gonna do? You're gonna do what ever it takes to stay alive. It's a natural instinct to survive, but some are stronger than others. The mindset is no matter how bad it gets failure is not an option. This is how my quit feels. Sure there's pain, so what. Give me more and I'll just block that pain too. My quit consumes weakness, and get's smarter, stronger, more efficient.. I decided on the first day that this would be my mind set. Failure is NOT an option. Care to join me?  B)
I will join you kana.

I don't have to carry a log over my head through the surf do I?

Semper Fi brother
Been all in since I made the decision to quit. Had plenty of support along the way; but ultimately, the choice was never really in question. I wanted to quit, I needed the training to stay quit, and I need the accountability to stay quit. I will not fail, so long as I put all my skills and training to use. Complacency is mediocrity... I've got no place in my life for being mediocre.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 20, 2012, 08:17:00 AM
137ish - Been in some kinda crap the last week or so. finally felt better Tues, but then snapped at my poor wife yesterday, hadn't seen her in 2 weeks, and I haven't snapped in awhile. I went to work angry all day. when I came home I was sitting outside and thinking what to say to the Mrs. Then I realized I hadn't thought about a can of dip in a looong time, but I think about KTC everyday. 'Crazy'
When I went in she had cooked my favorite dinner, bless her heart. Both working full time, wife going to school full time, running a business, and being Mr. mom, I guess it had to blow eventually. main thing we're all good like usual, but then last night I had my first dip dream. Right before I woke up had a massive lipper in the car, and was thinking to myself oh fuck. Then I woke up. Thank god it was a dream. fucking bitch has been messing with me for the past 9 fucking day's. Fuck you bitch leave me alone
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 20, 2012, 10:49:00 PM
Went to the dentist today, and I was worried for nothing. Hygienist said everything looked good. I needed something positive today. followed it up with a long swim. must say I'm feeling a little better. :wacko:
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 28, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
had another dip dream last night, but this one was awesome. first of all my brother in law has never used nic in his life. In my dream I watched him insert a very large turd, and I was pissed as hell. I was in shock thinking he was a ninja this whole time, but so angry that he was using poison. I was yelling at him something fierce, then I woke up. In a haze I brushed my teeth, looked in the mirror, and had a little smile..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: cdmavs41 on December 29, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: kana
had another dip dream last night, but this one was awesome. first of all my brother in law has never used nic in his life. In my dream I watched him insert a very large turd, and I was pissed as hell. I was in shock thinking he was a ninja this whole time, but so angry that he was using poison. I was yelling at him something fierce, then I woke up. In a haze I brushed my teeth, looked in the mirror, and had a little smile..
Last night I read about your dream and then proceeded to have my first ever positive dip dream. All the others had me caving, but in this dream I was talking with a buddy about the benefits of being quit and helping him, a smoker, quit. Thanks for that bit of "Inception".
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 29, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: kana
had another dip dream last night, but this one was awesome. first of all my brother in law has never used nic in his life. In my dream I watched him insert a very large turd, and I was pissed as hell. I was in shock thinking he was a ninja this whole time, but so angry that he was using poison. I was yelling at him something fierce, then I woke up. In a haze I brushed my teeth, looked in the mirror, and had a little smile..
Last night I read about your dream and then proceeded to have my first ever positive dip dream. All the others had me caving, but in this dream I was talking with a buddy about the benefits of being quit and helping him, a smoker, quit. Thanks for that bit of "Inception".
:D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 29, 2012, 12:04:00 PM
I was gonna wait, but I feel like sharing my thoughts early, as I have time. The same thing happened with my quit. I set a date, and ended up quitting a week early, thanks to the elders.. that was the best decision of my life.
Many things are going through my head right now. 9 out of 10 of them positive. Tomorrow is my sons 6th b-day. I know this because he has told me everyday for the last month! lol.. I remember when we found out she was preggy. I said I'd quit when he was born.. ya right.. I'd follow that by trying to quit on each of his last 5 b-days.. This year I AM quit. almost 5 months on his b-day. Can't tell you how good that feels. This time I quit for myself, and my family is now benefitting.
The old grumpy Dan was always holding his spitter at family parties (holidays) bbq's, etc... feeling sorry for himself.. The kids didn't come near me. they called me (the grouch).
What a difference 5 months makes. Now all the kids come to me like a magnet. I'm calm, smiling, looking healthy, and always have gum in my pocket! The kids have caught on and now I get all the attention. I can play with them, tickle them, and smile with ease... I'm fucking free....
KTC and all of you, not only helped me quit, but changed my soul to the core. I feel like Eric, that I'm just a better person now. I take very good care of myself. I eat healthy, and exercise. This year I actually lost weight over the holiday's. I guess there's a first for everything.
At the same time I'm watching my SIL go through chemo, and radiation, 5 day's a week. She's getting very weak now, and I can see the despair in her eyes. The surgery is not too far off, but the dr's seem to think she'll be ok. We're praying for that. She has always taken care of herself, no tobacco, moderate alcohol. This was a wake up call for all of us. It gives me even more purpose, and appreciation for life.
No matter how bad it get's, being quit is alway's the best path. No looking back!
:)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: eric71 on December 29, 2012, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I was gonna wait, but I feel like sharing my thoughts early, as I have time. The same thing happened with my quit. I set a date, and ended up quitting a week early, thanks to the elders.. that was the best decision of my life.
Many things are going through my head right now. 9 out of 10 of them positive. Tomorrow is my sons 6th b-day. I know this because he has told me everyday for the last month! lol.. I remember when we found out she was preggy. I said I'd quit when he was born.. ya right.. I'd follow that by trying to quit on each of his last 5 b-days.. This year I AM quit. almost 5 months on his b-day. Can't tell you how good that feels. This time I quit for myself, and my family is now benefitting.
The old grumpy Dan was always holding his spitter at family parties (holidays) bbq's, etc... feeling sorry for himself.. The kids didn't come near me. they called me (the grouch).
What a difference 5 months makes. Now all the kids come to me like a magnet. I'm calm, smiling, looking healthy, and always have gum in my pocket! The kids have caught on and now I get all the attention. I can play with them, tickle them, and smile with ease... I'm fucking free....
KTC and all of you, not only helped me quit, but changed my soul to the core. I feel like Eric, that I'm just a better person now. I take very good care of myself. I eat healthy, and exercise. This year I actually lost weight over the holiday's. I guess there's a first for everything.
At the same time I'm watching my SIL go through chemo, and radiation, 5 day's a week. She's getting very weak now, and I can see the despair in her eyes. The surgery is not too far off, but the dr's seem to think she'll be ok. We're praying for that. She has always taken care of herself, no tobacco, moderate alcohol. This was a wake up call for all of us. It gives me even more purpose, and appreciation for life.
No matter how bad it get's, being quit is alway's the best path. No looking back!
:)
Kind words, great reflection points, and usage of the site and the leaders here who have helped us all. This truly is a season to celebrate. To celebrate where we've come from, where we are, where we will be. It is also a season to truly count our blessings of how fortunate we are the Good Lord has looked kindly upon our addictive selves. He has spared us through a common union that is KTC. Thanks for everything you do here pal. Proud to be quit with you.

QLAFM
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 13, 2013, 01:22:00 PM
I'm fucking pissed My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said. I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Skoal Monster on January 13, 2013, 01:30:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said. I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on January 13, 2013, 01:41:00 PM
Share this site with him. Have him read and look at all the surgery pics. He is a smart kid and will soon be on his on alone. This is the time to plant the truth seed about nicotine. Tell him to tell his parents or you will do it for him. This is the best present an uncle can do for him. He will get mad but if you do nothing it might take years for him to realize the same mistakes you and I did. No since in waiting.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 13, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.        I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 13, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 13, 2013, 03:40:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
Roll reversal. Kana, I feel your dilemma! Asking your nephew to quit, makes me think this is how my wife felt. How do I keep trust but get him to quit?

Wow, my wife had a lot of patience for me to get to a point where I was the one that wanted to quit.

He may slip up until he wants this. However, my wife let me know the behavior was not acceptable but I never thought she was my enemy.

I'm not in your place, just wondering how I would handle it....

Never tolerate or accept anything other than quit but increase you expression of how much your nephew means to you and the love you have is not a conditional thing.

Love me back by never doing this in front of me or my kids! They look up to you and nicotine is a killer!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: lospenguinos on January 13, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on January 13, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: ERDVM on January 13, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
All great advice, but, I tend to side with Sir D. I would ask some of the younger dudes to maybe send him a word. I would also consider asking ODT for advice and maybe to contact him as well as he publicly speaks to this age group. This scares us all, and I think it is important that you remain supportive. Even though he is family...it still holds true that he has to want to quit for himself. I know that 23 years ago, I wish I would have had an uncle not let me go off to college and forever get hooked to nicotine; however, I honestly don't know if I would have listened back then......sigh.

Fuck You Nicotine
Fuck You UST
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: loot on January 13, 2013, 07:58:00 PM
The only call LOOT would make would be to the supplier. "If my nephew show up with dip in his mouth, LOOT gonna assume you supplied it whether you did or not. LOOT will call you just prior to departure so you have time to get the cops there. Maybe they can stop the ass whoopin thas about to befall you"

Then, all you can do is try and reason with the kid. Too overbearing and he tunes you out and goes underground. Too easy and he takes it as approval. But let him know if the little guys tell you hes been dipping you will break him for exposing them to it. Delicate situation for sure.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on January 13, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
All great advice, but, I tend to side with Sir D. I would ask some of the younger dudes to maybe send him a word. I would also consider asking ODT for advice and maybe to contact him as well as he publicly speaks to this age group. This scares us all, and I think it is important that you remain supportive. Even though he is family...it still holds true that he has to want to quit for himself. I know that 23 years ago, I wish I would have had an uncle not let me go off to college and forever get hooked to nicotine; however, I honestly don't know if I would have listened back then......sigh.

Fuck You Nicotine
Fuck You UST
Tyson is 18 (march 2013).

I know there's a few others that young as well.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 14, 2013, 09:02:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
All great advice, but, I tend to side with Sir D. I would ask some of the younger dudes to maybe send him a word. I would also consider asking ODT for advice and maybe to contact him as well as he publicly speaks to this age group. This scares us all, and I think it is important that you remain supportive. Even though he is family...it still holds true that he has to want to quit for himself. I know that 23 years ago, I wish I would have had an uncle not let me go off to college and forever get hooked to nicotine; however, I honestly don't know if I would have listened back then......sigh.

Fuck You Nicotine
Fuck You UST
Tyson is 18 (march 2013).

I know there's a few others that young as well.
great thanks, I agree maybe the younger approach would be good. I can honestly say I believed him when he said he would quit. He's got a good head on his shoulders. will see..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: mich 34 on January 15, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
All great advice, but, I tend to side with Sir D. I would ask some of the younger dudes to maybe send him a word. I would also consider asking ODT for advice and maybe to contact him as well as he publicly speaks to this age group. This scares us all, and I think it is important that you remain supportive. Even though he is family...it still holds true that he has to want to quit for himself. I know that 23 years ago, I wish I would have had an uncle not let me go off to college and forever get hooked to nicotine; however, I honestly don't know if I would have listened back then......sigh.

Fuck You Nicotine
Fuck You UST
Tyson is 18 (march 2013).

I know there's a few others that young as well.
great thanks, I agree maybe the younger approach would be good. I can honestly say I believed him when he said he would quit. He's got a good head on his shoulders. will see..
Hang in there Kana, If he needs someone else to chat with who's been there (not his age but not so damn far away that I can't remember!) I'd be happy to give or take a call, email, pm here, anything. Let me know if I can help
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Leahy16 on January 15, 2013, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: kana
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: ERDVM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: lospenguinos
Quote from: kana
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: kana
I'm fucking pissed  My nephew (JOHN) 18 yr old (the oldest of all of them) Just picked up his little brother from my house. little brother jacob is the same age as my son (6), and they have sleep overs every week. anyway jacob went outside and was getting in JOHNS car, and I noticed JOHN had a swollen lip. I know that fuckin look. he was hiding his face cause he saw me looking at him through the window. I went outside and he wouldn't roll down the window. When he finally did he had a huge fuckin dip in. MY FUCKING 18 YR OLD NEPHEW. I was there when he was born. I taught this kid to swim in the ocean, I taught him lot's of things. Did I teach him to dip? I fucking hope not? I tried to talk to him calmly.. What the FUCK are you doing with that shit in your lip I said.. I told him I don't dip anymore. 162 days.. I said how long? almost 2 years he said.         I told him briefly how fucked up my life was while the bitch was driving. I'm still in shock but he's definitely a ninja.. He said it's ok my parents know. I said It's not fucking ok, It will kill you. He looked very scared by now, and knew I was pissed  serious.. Then he said please don't tell my mom.. obviously they don't know. I sure as hell don't want him to go through the same shit I did. 34 years of nic lies? Man I'm at a fucking crossroads.. help him quietly myself or tell his mom (my wife's sister) tell my wife? They're both gonna shit. He's leaving for college in the fall. need to fix this before he goes...FUCK
Go Nuclear, but tactical.

Print up the Sean Marsee story- pics and all. Print up the KERN story, and better yet, make him read the guestbook at their caring bridge site.

Tell his parents - give him the chance to tell them first.

I've read 1,000 posts that said I wished my parents kicked my ass when they caught me. Including mine. You can change this kids life for the better, if you don't try you'll always wonder.

When he goes to college you lose your shot.

Just my opinion
SM I always admire your words, (just so you know) I will talk to him first, I don't want to lose his trust. I told him this is between you and me. Great idea about the stories. I'm gonna print a couple. I'm still dealing with my quit, thank god this didn't happen early in my quit, but just mad at the bitch in general. No one else in the family dips, so I'm hoping it wasn't me that started this thing, but I'll be dammed if I don't finish it.
Just had the talk.. didn't want to waste any time.. He took it rather well, but my heart was freakin racing.. I hope I didn't start to ramble but we talked for 30 minutes. I gave him ultimatum to quit with my undivided help, or the parents get involved. He promised me he'd quit, but I'm gonna need strength on this one. I'll have no idea if he's dipping or not.. I told him to text me if he had problems. He said all his friends dip, and his friends dad buys them chew. I hope I don't end up in jail, cause I'm ready to drive to that fuckers house and give him a effin facial.. 'bangin'
I want to tell kids those ages that if they start chewing/smoking, the day will come when they will want to quit but can't. They will be worried about getting sick from it, spending too much money, being bad role model for younger kids. But they just won't be able to quit. Cuz the product is designed to make it hard to quit. It's a deal with the devil.

Might be worth showing him some of the introductions forums too. Less shocking than the other stories. But to kids that age the shocking things seem too far fetched. The volume of intros every day might have an effect on him.

Good luck with it. Don't take it personal if he don't listen. I didn't listen to anyone at that age either but I wish I did. If he don't quit just tell him to cry uncle when he eventually tries to quit but can't.
Wish you the strength as well. And don't forget to have him check out the site here himself.

Also don't forget you have other options too. In your group I know there are a couple of others that are closer to his age, so that maybe instead of a parent figure, he could have someone his own age, a friend, maybe say a word or two.

Gonna be tough with it being family, but just keep being honest with him, and lets see if we can have another success story.
All great advice, but, I tend to side with Sir D. I would ask some of the younger dudes to maybe send him a word. I would also consider asking ODT for advice and maybe to contact him as well as he publicly speaks to this age group. This scares us all, and I think it is important that you remain supportive. Even though he is family...it still holds true that he has to want to quit for himself. I know that 23 years ago, I wish I would have had an uncle not let me go off to college and forever get hooked to nicotine; however, I honestly don't know if I would have listened back then......sigh.

Fuck You Nicotine
Fuck You UST
Tyson is 18 (march 2013).

I know there's a few others that young as well.
great thanks, I agree maybe the younger approach would be good. I can honestly say I believed him when he said he would quit. He's got a good head on his shoulders. will see..
Hang in there Kana, If he needs someone else to chat with who's been there (not his age but not so damn far away that I can't remember!) I'd be happy to give or take a call, email, pm here, anything. Let me know if I can help
Fact is he's an addict like the rest of us.

You know you can't make him stop. You can give him all the info and tools but he's got to want to quit himself. Ain't your battle. The best you can do is be a good example to him. He'll come to you someday and ask how to quit. Until then he'll simply hide it from you too. Just like you did years ago...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 18, 2013, 09:07:00 AM
Day 167 Man I wish I remember who said or where I read,
"Be prepared to see people doing dumb things"

I was at the Drs. in the waiting room with my son. Both of us going to get flu shots, and our check ups. My son was happily playing with the toys knowing he was getting a shot. He's such a good kid, sigh. Anyway I was listening to music relaxing, and this lady came in with a broken arm in a cast. She was a little over weight and holding a litre of soda with her good arm. (This lady was about my age, and looked like she could kick my ass. lol) She sat down and then pulled out a tin. obviously the broken arm was her dominant one because she was having a hard time, extras were just falling on the floor of the dr.s office. The nurse and admins were watching her kinda grossed out.. After she finally got that death crap in her lip, she THEN pulled out a bag of tobacco and started to roll one up. She just put in a dip remember?.. She definitely struggled with that one as well, and then she swiped all the leftovers onto the floor again. Then went outside to smoke it. came back in sat down and took a big swig of warm old soda.. nice..
I felt sorry for her, I got mad at UST, but in the end I just thanked god that he delivered me from the grasps of evil..quit with all you smart people today!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mike17 on January 18, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Day 167 Man I wish I remember who said or where I read,
"Be prepared to see people doing dumb things"

I was at the Drs. in the waiting room with my son. Both of us going to get flu shots, and our check ups. My son was happily playing with the toys knowing he was getting a shot. He's such a good kid, sigh. Anyway I was listening to music relaxing, and this lady came in with a broken arm in a cast. She was a little over weight and holding a litre of soda with her good arm. (This lady was about my age, and looked like she could kick my ass. lol) She sat down and then pulled out a tin. obviously the broken arm was her dominant one because she was having a hard time, extras were just falling on the floor of the dr.s office. The nurse and admins were watching her kinda grossed out.. After she finally got that death crap in her lip, she THEN pulled out a bag of tobacco and started to roll one up. She just put in a dip remember?.. She definitely struggled with that one as well, and then she swiped all the leftovers onto the floor again. Then went outside to smoke it. came back in sat down and took a big swig of warm old soda.. nice..
I felt sorry for her, I got mad at UST, but in the end I just thanked god that he delivered me from the grasps of evil..quit with all you smart people today!!!
That sure sounds like one intimidating woman. Another example of the power of nicotine, and im sure as hell not going back to it
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on January 18, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
Quote from: Mike17
Quote from: kana
Day 167 Man I wish I remember who said or where I read,
"Be prepared to see people doing dumb things"

I was at the Drs. in the waiting room with my son. Both of us going to get flu shots, and our check ups. My son was happily playing with the toys knowing he was getting a shot. He's such a good kid, sigh. Anyway I was listening to music relaxing, and this lady came in with a broken arm in a cast. She was a little over weight and holding a litre of soda with her good arm. (This lady was about my age, and looked like she could kick my ass. lol) She sat down and then pulled out a tin. obviously the broken arm was her dominant one because she was having a hard time, extras were just falling on the floor of the dr.s office. The nurse and admins were watching her kinda grossed out.. After she finally got that death crap in her lip, she THEN pulled out a bag of tobacco and started to roll one up. She just put in a dip remember?.. She definitely struggled with that one as well, and then she swiped all the leftovers onto the floor again. Then went outside to smoke it. came back in sat down and took a big swig of warm old soda.. nice..
I felt sorry for her, I got mad at UST, but in the end I just thanked god that he delivered me from the grasps of evil..quit with all you smart people today!!!
That sure sounds like one intimidating woman. Another example of the power of nicotine, and im sure as hell not going back to it
True that. Does anyone read that story and think this woman is living in freedom?

Glad to be free from that garbage and live a cleaner life. Thanks Kana, always good to hear how nicotine is a slave owner.

keep on quitting and very glad to be quit with real quitters!

This is an evil, highly addictive vice. Anyone who says otherwise needs to pull their head out of their ass.

I stand with quitters and Tobacco is my enemy!!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 24, 2013, 09:19:00 AM
Yesterday was a great day. Did all the normal stuff. wake up, brush teeth, POST ROLL, feed kid, take to school, hit the gym. Swim some laps, had a large glass of pureed vegetables, (lost 12 pounds by the way) went home and was just relaxing in the yard listening to some music before work. (I work at night) I started to think about how good I felt, not just physically, but mentally as well, and no real cravings in awhile. I was feeling very peaceful.
Then my friend and (pool guy) came over. We were talking and went over by the equipment. I looked down and saw a shiny tin of cope long cut on the ground. I got effin chicken skin instantly. I said Mike is that yours? he said no I thought it was yours? it's been there 3 weeks. He grabbed it and opened it said hey it's full. Then his co-worker came over. Mike said hey isn't this your brand. He said yup. I must've dropped it. he looked inside saw it was full and smiled. I said that used to be my brand. He said used to? I said yup. I quit 172 days ago. He said and how many minutes? (sarcastically) He then said I quit many times. I said no you didn't. Your holding a fucking tin in your hand right now. (Mike laughed) I said I stopped using before, but never quit, now I AM quit. Not sure if it did any good for him but I told him a few stories about the battles, we'll see.. as for me I got a little stronger after yesterday's episode, I'm just feeling blessed  lucky right now. If your starting out just remember that in time you just won't think the same..You'll be released from her thoughts and it feels really good. Until the next fog that is... lol
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on January 24, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Yesterday was a great day. Did all the normal stuff. wake up, brush teeth, POST ROLL, feed kid, take to school, hit the gym. Swim some laps, had a large glass of pureed vegetables, (lost 12 pounds by the way) went home and was just relaxing in the yard listening to some music before work. (I work at night) I started to think about how good I felt, not just physically, but mentally as well, and no real cravings in awhile. I was feeling very peaceful.
Then my friend and (pool guy) came over. We were talking and went over by the equipment. I looked down and saw a shiny tin of cope long cut on the ground. I got effin chicken skin instantly. I said Mike is that yours? he said no I thought it was yours? it's been there 3 weeks. He grabbed it and opened it said hey it's full. Then his co-worker came over. Mike said hey isn't this your brand. He said yup. I must've dropped it. he looked inside saw it was full and smiled. I said that used to be my brand. He said used to? I said yup. I quit 172 days ago. He said and how many minutes? (sarcastically) He then said I quit many times. I said no you didn't. Your holding a fucking tin in your hand right now. (Mike laughed) I said I stopped using before, but never quit, now I AM quit. Not sure if it did any good for him but I told him a few stories about the battles, we'll see.. as for me I got a little stronger after yesterday's episode, I'm just feeling blessed  lucky right now. If your starting out just remember that in time you just won't think the same..You'll be released from her thoughts and it feels really good. Until the next fog that is... lol
'clap'
Good for you!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on February 01, 2013, 09:15:00 AM
sorry guys my business is picking up with the warmer weather and don't have as much time now to contribute, but I'll throw one out there when I can. well I finally took the leap and updated my business profile. so i was looking through all our photos on the computer trying to find one of (me) for a website.
WELL I went through ALL of them (many photos obviously) and I had a lipper in all of them. I kept looking and looking.. yup big ol fattie in every photo. I got kinda depressed thinking that's what I always looked like. gonna take a new lipless photo. the bitch messed with my head the rest of the day. craving again. wtf. I was doing the dishes last night and was throwing out the coffee grounds and almost took a big ol pinch of that shit. when I looked over at my son at the kitchen table, and he winked at me. The coffee went down the drain. Is there a 180's thing that visits us folk. I'm assuming there is cause after the cruise control for a bit, it's one day at a time again. today I'm quit.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: 30isEnuff on February 01, 2013, 10:49:00 AM
Quote from: kana
sorry guys my business is picking up with the warmer weather and don't have as much time now to contribute, but I'll throw one out there when I can. well I finally took the leap and updated my business profile. so i was looking through all our photos on the computer trying to find one of (me) for a website.
WELL I went through ALL of them (many photos obviously) and I had a lipper in all of them. I kept looking and looking.. yup big ol fattie in every photo. I got kinda depressed thinking that's what I always looked like. gonna take a new lipless photo. the bitch messed with my head the rest of the day. craving again. wtf. I was doing the dishes last night and was throwing out the coffee grounds and almost took a big ol pinch of that shit. when I looked over at my son at the kitchen table, and he winked at me. The coffee went down the drain. Is there a 180's thing that visits us folk. I'm assuming there is cause after the cruise control for a bit, it's one day at a time again. today I'm quit.
I'll quit with you TODAY kana!
No more fat lippers for us. 'zombie'
NAFAR never again for any reason! 'bang head'
Have a super wonderful full on Quit Woodie weekend 'boob'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on February 20, 2013, 09:13:00 AM
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son. My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@ I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest. This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: 916quit on February 20, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son. My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@ I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest. This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jaynellie on February 20, 2013, 09:47:00 AM
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Scowick65 on February 20, 2013, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: cbird65 on February 20, 2013, 09:59:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on February 20, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: GR8WHITEBUFFALO on February 20, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
Quote
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Quote

Great job. Proud to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on February 20, 2013, 10:40:00 AM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Souliman on February 20, 2013, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Morgan1 on February 20, 2013, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: cdaniels on February 20, 2013, 06:00:00 PM
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 20, 2013, 09:02:00 PM
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Holy shit Kana, this post made my day. I am impressed and inspired. You have strengthened my quit today. I dont know if I am happier for you or your young nephew. Either way, damn proud to be quit with you today!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on February 20, 2013, 09:36:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Holy shit Kana, this post made my day. I am impressed and inspired. You have strengthened my quit today. I dont know if I am happier for you or your young nephew. Either way, damn proud to be quit with you today!!!
Your strength and friendship has inspired me so many times. When I see your name on a post or in roll the first thing that comes to my mind is the picture of you and your truck and how 'cool' your business is. Then I can't think about you without thinking about how lucky your son is to have his Dad free of nicotine. Proud to be quit with you! 200 days, great!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Tazbutane on February 20, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Holy shit Kana, this post made my day. I am impressed and inspired. You have strengthened my quit today. I dont know if I am happier for you or your young nephew. Either way, damn proud to be quit with you today!!!
Your strength and friendship has inspired me so many times. When I see your name on a post or in roll the first thing that comes to my mind is the picture of you and your truck and how 'cool' your business is. Then I can't think about you without thinking about how lucky your son is to have his Dad free of nicotine. Proud to be quit with you! 200 days, great!
Thanks for sharing Kana, I enjoy reading your posts.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on February 20, 2013, 11:38:00 PM
Quote from: tazbutane
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Morgan1
Quote from: Souliman
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: CBird65
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: 916quit
Quote from: kana
Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Holy shit Kana, this post made my day. I am impressed and inspired. You have strengthened my quit today. I dont know if I am happier for you or your young nephew. Either way, damn proud to be quit with you today!!!
Your strength and friendship has inspired me so many times. When I see your name on a post or in roll the first thing that comes to my mind is the picture of you and your truck and how 'cool' your business is. Then I can't think about you without thinking about how lucky your son is to have his Dad free of nicotine. Proud to be quit with you! 200 days, great!
Thanks for sharing Kana, I enjoy reading your posts.
Fucking Champ. Love it.
Title: Re: Live Chat
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Today I reflect- yesterday was one of those euphoria days. 200 days ago When I first posted on KTC I was a mess. I made a commitment to my brothers, sisters  most importantly me. For now on I would take care of myself. I took a photo of my fat ass in the mirror to remember... 200 days ago I dipped 18 hrs a day. Ate nothing but fast food, and processed crap.. Sat on the couch like a lazy ass. Had no energy to play with my son.  My wife would look at me with no respect... she could see I wasn't taking care of myself. I was a depressed mess...
What a difference 200 days makes.. I'm just a different person now..
My diet now consists of nothing that I don't prepare myself. I exercise 4 days a week for 6 months? holy crap. I've never done that before... yesterday I swam laps and felt like fucking superman when I was done. I remembered the photo I took 200 days ago. I went home and compared Holy crap again!!@  I have simply transformed.. That lazy nic addicted fat ass is gone.. I really feel like I turned a corner and proud of all the hard work I've put in. My wife asked how long has it been? I told her over 6 months, and she didn't believe me. She was shocked. She simply realized that I was serious this time. I could see the happiness in her face as she simply smiled. I had gained her respect again, and it felt like a ton of bricks was off my chest.  This time the difference is I'm gonna keep going, before I would feel like I had accomplished my goal and stopped. Now I'm addicted to my new lifestyle.. I'm addicted to the fucking freedom, and the thought of enjoying this beautiful life without a ball  chain.. I feel peaceful..
The end of my day yesterday I had to get gas for my work truck. I went inside got a couple bananas, and a candy to take home for my son.. I was waiting in line and one guy ahead of me. I started staring at the rows of tins. so many cans, so many brands, I just spaced out thinking how much I hated all that shit I was looking at. Then the cashier guy said hey bro you ok? I said ya why? He said you where spacing out shaking you head. I told him I used to be addicted to that crap on his shelf. He said hey I remember you!
  I used to buy my tins there, and on my first day quit I was getting gas and he asked me if I needed my regular 2 cans? I told him I had quit. The guy said I heard that before and kinda laughed. I hadn't seen him in awhile because I never went inside while getting gas after quitting. Anyway here we were 199 days later. He asked me if I was still quit? I said absolutely!! I was so proud, felt so good. He smiled as well.. Nice young kid.. I was also successful in getting my nephew to quit. he hasn't used since the day we had the talk.. I think I scared the shit out of him. good.. Thank you to everyone who has helped me transform. I truly appreciate all of you and still thank god I found KTC... peace
Congrats Kana! Great stuff!!!
That's Awesome, Powerful stuff there!Congrats
Just perfect. Thanks for sharing.
It's amazing what we can see in our lives after the nicotine induced haze clears.

Nice work - keep going
well done my friend. Keep up the great work and proud to be quit with you
Very proud of you man
Nice work bro! One day at a time seems to work.
Kana you've always been a badass in the 200 days I've known you. Keep it bro.
awesome job Kana!!!
Holy shit Kana, this post made my day. I am impressed and inspired. You have strengthened my quit today. I dont know if I am happier for you or your young nephew. Either way, damn proud to be quit with you today!!!
Your strength and friendship has inspired me so many times. When I see your name on a post or in roll the first thing that comes to my mind is the picture of you and your truck and how 'cool' your business is. Then I can't think about you without thinking about how lucky your son is to have his Dad free of nicotine. Proud to be quit with you! 200 days, great!
Thanks for sharing Kana, I enjoy reading your posts.
Fucking Champ. Love it.
Honored to be quit with you today!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on March 27, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
Day 235... Wow page six... I guess it's been awhile since I shared. The last 5 weeks have been interesting and insightful for me. I was getting nervous because I knew that major triggers were coming my way. Last year I had stopped using for 8-9 months, but was chomping nic gum off and on that whole time, but what caused me to cave was the fact that my son was sleeping over at his cousins. It was my first night home alone in awhile. Sure enough I bought a can and told myself just tonight. Then the morning came had another, and so on...
This time I'm truly quit. I have tools, but I was nervous. I've always been the guy who'll never ask for help.. I post and share when I can, but ultimately I have to do this myself...I have to make the choice... My wife  son were going to Legoland  Seaworld.. but I had to stay back and work... Home alone for 5 days I knew I would be tested.. The days came and went, and I honestly didn't have any problems except I was craving some fake. Never tried it yet, and not sure if I should, but I think it would be good to have around for emergencies.
I survived 3 major triggers, and yesterday capped it all off for me.. I had a new tree installed in the front yard , and the guy climbed out of the truck with a huge fatty, and holding a can of cope in his hand.. He spit before he introduced himself, and gave me a fist bump with the said can in hand. Honestly I didn't even think twice. I ran my tongue across my gums and thought about how good they felt. (no sores) Then I thought that I hadn't even used any gum the whole day either. All day yard work with nothing in my mouth. wow..
I'll be ready for what comes my way. I'm still undefeated, and intend to stay that way... peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kkljinc on March 27, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Day 235... Wow page six... I guess it's been awhile since I shared. The last 5 weeks have been interesting and insightful for me. I was getting nervous because I knew that major triggers were coming my way. Last year I had stopped using for 8-9 months, but was chomping nic gum off and on that whole time, but what caused me to cave was the fact that my son was sleeping over at his cousins. It was my first night home alone in awhile. Sure enough I bought a can and told myself just tonight. Then the morning came had another, and so on...
This time I'm truly quit. I have tools, but I was nervous. I've always been the guy who'll never ask for help.. I post and share when I can, but ultimately I have to do this myself...I have to make the choice... My wife  son were going to Legoland  Seaworld.. but I had to stay back and work... Home alone for 5 days I knew I would be tested.. The days came and went, and I honestly didn't have any problems except I was craving some fake. Never tried it yet, and not sure if I should, but I think it would be good to have around for emergencies.
I survived 3 major triggers, and yesterday capped it all off for me.. I had a new tree installed in the front yard , and the guy climbed out of the truck with a huge fatty, and holding a can of cope in his hand.. He spit before he introduced himself, and gave me a fist bump with the said can in hand. Honestly I didn't even think twice. I ran my tongue across my gums and thought about how good they felt. (no sores) Then I thought that I hadn't even used any gum the whole day either. All day yard work with nothing in my mouth. wow..
I'll be ready for what comes my way. I'm still undefeated, and intend to stay that way... peace
Spoken like a true quitter! Proud to quit with you today!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on April 07, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
Day 246 - I guess the fake is a 50/50 topic on here so I've learned. I never really thought about it during my quit until recently. I read that others would use it, and I didn't really care if they did or not. As long as it was helping them. I personally didn't want to try it because of the oral fixation things. I knew the taste would suck, because your mind  taste buds wouldn't be getting what they thought was coming.. I was correct... The other day I ordered some fake hooch after one of my rants. Personally I think it did more harm then good.. It arrived 2 days ago. I can remember checking the mail everyday. Then I thought it has to come today, so I left work early went home checked the mailbox  there it was... After the kid went to bed I took a pinch.. It felt as though I had caved.. I immediately got a sinking feeling in my stomach. The FAKE dip lasted 10 minutes then i spit it out.. I thought, well this isn't for me.. I threw them all in the trash. Next morning, I pulled 2 cans back out.. sound familiar? I had another FAKE dip on the way to pick up my son. looking for a spitter I found an empty bottle in the car that was the one I used the first day. Opened it up and the smell almost made me puke. This stuff tasted like shit but kept it in 10 minutes - then spit it out... I put the 2 cans in the closet.. Next day (yesterday) On way home from work thinking about getting home and having a hooch.. Kid went to bed, I had another dip.. Sitting in my chair I started noticing I would move the shit around in my mouth, I was thinking about it earlier, I was hiding it, doing the things I used to do with the real shit.. I immediately got up and said FUCK THIS NOISE... I took all the hooch and flushed it.. I'm not going back down that road..
My 2 cents on this topic - Stay away from the fake unless your using it at the very beginning to get through the hurt. Dump that shit as soon as you can, because I've seen how similar it is, and I think it's just a set-up for failure.
Addiction is not something to fuck around with.. Addiction is 90% mental,
so this morning 90% + My other 10% says FUCK YOU TOBACCO.. I'm quit
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on April 07, 2013, 07:42:00 PM
Kana, thanks for the post. Congrats on day 246, they really pile up dont they. You were at about 150 when I got on here.

I know what you mean about the fake. I never touched the fake at all for like 70 days or more. I also stayed away from drinking. When I decided to do some drinking again I thought it might be good to have some fake on hand just in case. I tell you what, I was happy to have it. I am not gonna stress about it either. I will probably keep it in my glove box and maybe in my golf bag just in case. Hope I wont need it beyond the first year, but it is a tool that I will allow myself for this summer at least. There is just something about getting a buzz and feeling the need to stuff my lip. If you feel that it is a slippery slope for you I think you are dead right to stay away.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on April 08, 2013, 01:50:00 AM
Interesting, I started mixing fake and real before finding KTC and after quitting tried all the fake I could get. Finally I chose smokey Mountian and dipped it for over 80 days nonstop. Eventually my desire for it left. At about 150 days I threw out all the fake stockpile except 2 cans, today at 373 days they remain unopened. Congrats on your upcoming 250 Dana. We all do what we have to do and the only thing that really matters is keeping nicotine out of the equation. It's just like posting roll post HOF, 2nd floor, 1 year or whatever. For me recognizing when I'm tempted and falling back on the tools I've learned this past year is what will keep me quit today. I remember the times in the past I worried about quitting forever, I'm no fortune teller. I believe the greatest breakthrough I've made is that now I understand that no matter what I can quit TODAY!

Non addicts can make life time decisions to never use nicotine and never look back or weaken to temptation, they just aren't tempted because the made that decision. I can't do that because I am an addict and my decision must be made daily! For me 'I will not use nicotine today'! Someday years down the road this may change, we've all heard those addicts that swear they can say "Never"! I quit with you today 'iceman'.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 08, 2013, 02:02:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Day 246 - I guess the fake is a 50/50 topic on here so I've learned. I never really thought about it during my quit until recently. I read that others would use it, and I didn't really care if they did or not. As long as it was helping them. I personally didn't want to try it because of the oral fixation things. I knew the taste would suck, because your mind  taste buds wouldn't be getting what they thought was coming.. I was correct... The other day I ordered some fake hooch after one of my rants. Personally I think it did more harm then good.. It arrived 2 days ago. I can remember checking the mail everyday. Then I thought it has to come today, so I left work early went home checked the mailbox  there it was... After the kid went to bed I took a pinch.. It felt as though I had caved.. I immediately got a sinking feeling in my stomach. The FAKE dip lasted 10 minutes then i spit it out.. I thought, well this isn't for me.. I threw them all in the trash. Next morning, I pulled 2 cans back out.. sound familiar? I had another FAKE dip on the way to pick up my son. looking for a spitter I found an empty bottle in the car that was the one I used the first day. Opened it up and the smell almost made me puke. This stuff tasted like shit but kept it in 10 minutes - then spit it out... I put the 2 cans in the closet.. Next day (yesterday) On way home from work thinking about getting home and having a hooch.. Kid went to bed, I had another dip.. Sitting in my chair I started noticing I would move the shit around in my mouth, I was thinking about it earlier, I was hiding it, doing the things I used to do with the real shit.. I immediately got up and said FUCK THIS NOISE... I took all the hooch and flushed it.. I'm not going back down that road..
My 2 cents on this topic - Stay away from the fake unless your using it at the very beginning to get through the hurt. Dump that shit as soon as you can, because I've seen how similar it is, and I think it's just a set-up for failure.
Addiction is not something to fuck around with.. Addiction is 90% mental,
so this morning 90% + My other 10% says FUCK YOU TOBACCO.. I'm quit
Good advice, and great job reaching 246.

Fake is a tough one but I agree with you.

Use it if you must in the beginning, but getting into it after you have some good numbers under your belt may not be wise.

Just my piddly 3 cents.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Kubrick on April 08, 2013, 10:05:00 AM
On the other side of the coin, I still have a hooch dip occasionally, especially if I'm driving a good distance.

It doesn't make me feel like I've caved. I just keep a can in my car, and cans in a few other places just in case because even at day 381, the occasional crave still sneaks in there. I would rather put some nic free herbs in my mouth than be tempted with the real stuff.

So anyone reading this: if you think it will help you, then try it out and use it and make your own decision.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on April 08, 2013, 11:31:00 AM
As stated before this is my 2 cents.. my opinion.. I don't care if someone uses it.. just saying it's not for me..
I feel helluva better now that it's out of my house.. I feel as though I crossed a barrier in my quit.. I surprised myself by not enjoying it..
Three of my nephews (brothers) all sucked their thumbs. The youngest is now the last one still doing it. I was watching him and it made me think how the addiction to comfort starts very early. Everybody selects different types of comfort. My son never sucked his thumb, but he carried a blanket. We're all different even at that age.. watching the boys the 2 oldest have grown out of it. It made me liken it to my quit. I feel as though I've just grown away from it.. and everyday I feel a little more free...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: rickddd on April 08, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Kana, thanks for the post.  Congrats on day 246, they really pile up dont they.  You were at about 150 when I got on here.

I know what you mean about the fake.  I never touched the fake at all for like 70 days or more.  I also stayed away from drinking.  When I decided to do some drinking again I thought it might be good to have some fake on hand just in case.  I tell you what, I was happy to have it.  I am not gonna stress about it either.  I will probably keep it in my glove box and maybe in my golf bag just in case.  Hope I wont need it beyond the first year, but it is a tool that I will allow myself for this summer at least.  There is just something about getting a buzz and feeling the need to stuff my lip.  If you feel that it is a slippery slope for you I think you are dead right to stay away.
That is a good plan, I'm gonna follow that as well, and keep using fake thru the summer for golf season, and fishing season.
I'm using fake pretty consistently, tho not 24/7 like with dip. I probably have 4-6 fake chews per day.

Congrats Kana! I hope to get where you are someday, thanks for showing me how its done.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on April 26, 2013, 12:23:00 PM
The last couple weeks have taken my face and shoved it in a pile of addiction... I hope young people read my posts , so they learn how powerful addiction really is. We're all alike. We don't want our kids and youth to go through the same things we did. I had a visit from my mother this week, and we talked a lot about addiction. Over the course of my life I have slowly eliminated my addictions. One by one the have fallen. First was alcohol, second was cigarettes, third was weed, and then dip. (However) When I quit dip I was pre-scribed med cannabis from my dr. to replace the anxiety  pain meds I was on. (They Caused me to pass out all the time) First the weed was once a day, then twice, then three.. WTF?? Then 2 weeks ago I started the fake dip.. first it was once a day, then twice a day, Then three WTF??? Yesterday I had 6.. My addict nature just bleeds out. I have felt guilty and thus stopped posting. and then yesterday my son found a spit bottle? Asked me why the water was sick... Then I got sick ... sick to my stomach that I was allowing things to control me again. This isn't about fake dip, or real dip, food, drugs. It's about allowing something to control you. I'm fucking stronger than that... I hate being controlled. After I type this I'm flushing the remainder of my fake down the toilet, and I'm gonna visit the dr. and try a different path for my meds. I'm still nicotine free and I feel good about that, but it's time to start mending some broken boards. Today I'm gonna beat the shit out of addiction, fuck you!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on April 27, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Quote from: kana
The last couple weeks have taken my face and shoved it in a pile of addiction... I hope young people read my posts , so they learn how powerful addiction really is. We're all alike. We don't want our kids and youth to go through the same things we did. I had a visit from my mother this week, and we talked a lot about addiction. Over the course of my life I have slowly eliminated my addictions. One by one the have fallen. First was alcohol, second was cigarettes, third was weed, and then dip. (However) When I quit dip I was pre-scribed med cannabis from my dr. to replace the anxiety  pain meds I was on. (They Caused me to pass out all the time) First the weed was once a day, then twice, then three.. WTF?? Then 2 weeks ago I started the fake dip.. first it was once a day, then twice a day, Then three WTF??? Yesterday I had 6.. My addict nature just bleeds out. I have felt guilty and thus stopped posting. and then yesterday my son found a spit bottle? Asked me why the water was sick... Then I got sick ... sick to my stomach that I was allowing things to control me again. This isn't about fake dip, or real dip, food, drugs. It's about allowing something to control you. I'm fucking stronger than that... I hate being controlled. After I type this I'm flushing the remainder of my fake down the toilet, and I'm gonna visit the dr. and try a different path for my meds. I'm still nicotine free and I feel good about that, but it's time to start mending some broken boards. Today I'm gonna beat the shit out of addiction, fuck you!!!
You git this shit bro.  You can do anything when your mind is right.

"When MIND is weak, situation is a PROBLEM. When MIND is balanced, situation is a CHALLENGE. When MIND is strong, situation becomes OPPORTUNITY.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on May 08, 2013, 10:05:00 AM
This morning in my seat, at my desk looking out the window. My mind told me to write today as I need to log this ride I've been on. What I love most about this sight is someone will always tell you exactly what you need to hear at the right time. I like many have been in the vortex of a storm lately. But I have found my way out again.. I noticed my garden has been neglected, not forgotten just neglected. This garden is on my property, and I'm responsible for it. No one can take it away from me, not even the storm.. The storm is in the distance now.. I can see the backside and I'm giving it the finger... Now it's time to work on my mind, get it STRONG again..
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on May 19, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
288 today - What a fucking ride this has been. Coming up on my 45th bday next month. Where does the time go? I sit home alone yet again.. 3rd time this year the family is on a trip without me.. This last one has hit me hard.. Makes you think about what's really important in life. Without my family I have nothing.. I guess many things have been creeping around in my head the last 50 days. I'm definitely guilty of over analyzing everything.. My mother say's I've been a perfectionist from birth, but I've been an addict just as long..
My grandparents are in their mid 90's. All my relatives have lived long lives, so often I think it could be my halftime. Time to re-evaluate the game plan, goal, direction, and make adjustments. Then I realize I've been addicted to something almost my entire life.. walking the tightrope.. I want the second half to be different.. I'm sick and tired of carrying all that baggage...
In the beginning I was young  blind, but now I see very clearly. It's like noticing an obvious problem that can be fixed.. You just have to fix it. All my life my addiction has grabbed onto something with both-hands.. Sometimes there were multiple addictions, but one always took the lead. Before I came to KTC I was really struggling with the tobacco. I had already kicked alcohol to the curb, but tobacco was that obvious problem that could be fixed. I knew it would be a tough fight, but I also knew this needed to be done. I trolled KTC for a week before I posted day 1. I vividly remember that feeling, that I was doing something wrong (using), and I needed to change. Like I broke a window, and waited a couple day's to say anything, that awful feeling in your gut..
Around the 250's I think I started using fake. First a little then a lot. Once I noticed I had multiple spitters around I said enough. It was to similar, and I'm removing anything resembling tobacco from my life.. It's been 2 weeks and I'm glad I moved away from the fake.. no regrets..
Addiction is very fucking smart, it tries to justify. Addiction knew I was kicking yet another bitch to the curb, so It latched on to something else.. medical cannabis.. It's been prescribed to me for 1 1/2 years, after a 15 year stretch without. I told myself it would be a tool in my bag for as long as I needed it.. But here comes the justification again, I need it to help me through this? BULLSHIT! The last 50 day's has been a battle for me with addiction. I haven't been very involved on here because I feel I needed to help myself first. I need to strengthen my own resolve before I can help others.
I've had that sinking feeling in my gut again. She knew that I had one vice left, and that her day's were also numbered.. dip thoughts have become rare, so I feel like I'm ready to take this fucking battle to the next level. I'm going to cut her head off, on her own soil, in front of her own army. The head of the snake will fall when I hit 300. I will stop using my meds, be a man, and fight the remainder of this battle with a clear head. I have finally accepted that I'm not perfect, but I'm a strong mother fucker. That's why the lord gave me this battle, because he knew I'd be standing in the end. KTC has made me feel like a member of the 300 army. The army that did the impossible. I fight along side all you bad ass mother fuckers to the bitter end. When it's my time to go, I will have the peace of mind that the majority of my life was lived WITHOUT addiction...and that I was in control... peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Dlee3 on May 19, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: kana
288 today - What a fucking ride this has been. Coming up on my 45th bday next month. Where does the time go? I sit home alone yet again.. 3rd time this year the family is on a trip without me.. This last one has hit me hard.. Makes you think about what's really important in life. Without my family I have nothing.. I guess many things have been creeping around in my head the last 50 days. I'm definitely guilty of over analyzing everything.. My mother say's I've been a perfectionist from birth, but I've been an addict just as long..
My grandparents are in their mid 90's. All my relatives have lived long lives, so often I think it could be my halftime. Time to re-evaluate the game plan, goal, direction, and make adjustments. Then I realize I've been addicted to something almost my entire life.. walking the tightrope.. I want the second half to be different.. I'm sick and tired of carrying all that baggage...
In the beginning I was young  blind, but now I see very clearly. It's like noticing an obvious problem that can be fixed.. You just have to fix it. All my life my addiction has grabbed onto something with both-hands.. Sometimes there were multiple addictions, but one always took the lead. Before I came to KTC I was really struggling with the tobacco. I had already kicked alcohol to the curb, but tobacco was that obvious problem that could be fixed. I knew it would be a tough fight, but I also knew this needed to be done. I trolled KTC for a week before I posted day 1. I vividly remember that feeling, that I was doing something wrong (using), and I needed to change. Like I broke a window, and waited a couple day's to say anything, that awful feeling in your gut..
Around the 250's I think I started using fake. First a little then a lot. Once I noticed I had multiple spitters around I said enough. It was to similar, and I'm removing anything resembling tobacco from my life.. It's been 2 weeks and I'm glad I moved away from the fake.. no regrets..
Addiction is very fucking smart, it tries to justify. Addiction knew I was kicking yet another bitch to the curb, so It latched on to something else.. medical cannabis.. It's been prescribed to me for 1 1/2 years, after a 15 year stretch without. I told myself it would be a tool in my bag for as long as I needed it.. But here comes the justification again, I need it to help me through this? BULLSHIT! The last 50 day's has been a battle for me with addiction. I haven't been very involved on here because I feel I needed to help myself first. I need to strengthen my own resolve before I can help others.
I've had that sinking feeling in my gut again. She knew that I had one vice left, and that her day's were also numbered.. dip thoughts have become rare, so I feel like I'm ready to take this fucking battle to the next level. I'm going to cut her head off, on her own soil, in front of her own army. The head of the snake will fall when I hit 300. I will stop using my meds, be a man, and fight the remainder of this battle with a clear head. I have finally accepted that I'm not perfect, but I'm a strong mother fucker. That's why the lord gave me this battle, because he knew I'd be standing in the end. KTC has made me feel like a member of the 300 army. The army that did the impossible. I fight along side all you bad ass mother fuckers to the bitter end. When it's my time to go, I will have the peace of mind that the majority of my life was lived WITHOUT addiction...and that I was in control... peace
I am not shitting you, I just had to wipe something moist out of my eyes. Damn that hit home. I'm less than half the quitter you are, but there are those moments when it's obvious I'm simply looking for another addiction and it's a crazy internal fight. What you're going through makes total sense to me, and I empathize with you. If there's anything harder in this life than fighting addiction, I don't want to encounter it.

Glad you answered the reason to beat this shit first in that post. We're not living to love an addiction, we're living to love those that love and need us. We're working hard to actually deserve that love and need. There is no "need" in addiction, no matter the vice. Our families NEED us.

That moist crap in my eyes is happening again. What the fuck is that?
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on May 19, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Dlee3
Quote from: kana
288 today - What a fucking ride this has been. Coming up on my 45th bday next month. Where does the time go?  I sit home alone yet again.. 3rd time this year the family is on a trip without me.. This last one has hit me hard.. Makes you think about what's really important in life. Without my family I have nothing.. I guess many things have been creeping around in my head the last 50 days. I'm definitely guilty of over analyzing everything.. My mother say's I've been a perfectionist from birth, but I've been an addict just as long..
My grandparents are in their mid 90's. All my relatives have lived long lives, so often I think it could be my halftime. Time to re-evaluate the game plan, goal, direction, and make adjustments. Then I realize I've been addicted to something almost my entire life.. walking the tightrope.. I want the second half to be different..  I'm sick and tired of carrying all that baggage...
In the beginning I was young  blind, but now I see very clearly. It's like noticing an obvious problem that can be fixed.. You just have to fix it. All my life my addiction has grabbed onto something with both-hands.. Sometimes there were multiple addictions, but one always took the lead. Before I came to KTC I was really struggling with the tobacco. I had already kicked alcohol to the curb, but tobacco was that obvious problem that could be fixed. I knew it would be a tough fight, but I also knew this needed to be done. I trolled KTC for a week before I posted day 1. I vividly remember that feeling, that I was doing something wrong (using), and I needed to change. Like I broke a window, and waited a couple day's to say anything, that awful feeling in your gut..
Around the 250's I think I started using fake. First a little then a lot. Once I noticed I had multiple spitters around I said enough. It was to similar, and I'm removing anything resembling tobacco from my life.. It's been 2 weeks and I'm glad I moved away from the fake.. no regrets..
Addiction is very fucking smart, it tries to justify. Addiction knew I was kicking yet another bitch to the curb, so It latched on to something else.. medical cannabis.. It's been prescribed to me for 1 1/2 years, after a 15 year stretch without.  I told myself it would be a tool in my bag for as long as I needed it.. But here comes the justification again, I need it to help me through this? BULLSHIT! The last 50 day's has been a battle for me with addiction. I haven't been very involved on here because I feel I needed to help myself first. I need to strengthen my own resolve before I can help others.
I've had that sinking feeling in my gut again. She knew that I had one vice left, and that her day's were also numbered.. dip thoughts have become rare, so I feel like I'm ready to take this fucking battle to the next level. I'm going to cut her head off, on her own soil, in front of her own army. The head of the snake will fall when I hit 300. I will stop using my meds, be a man, and fight the remainder of this battle with a clear head. I have finally accepted that I'm not perfect, but I'm a strong mother fucker. That's why the lord gave me this battle, because he knew I'd be standing in the end.  KTC has made me feel like a member of the 300 army. The army that did the impossible. I fight along side all you bad ass mother fuckers to the bitter end. When it's my time to go, I will have the peace of mind that the majority of my life was lived WITHOUT addiction...and that I was in control... peace
I am not shitting you, I just had to wipe something moist out of my eyes. Damn that hit home. I'm less than half the quitter you are, but there are those moments when it's obvious I'm simply looking for another addiction and it's a crazy internal fight. What you're going through makes total sense to me, and I empathize with you. If there's anything harder in this life than fighting addiction, I don't want to encounter it.

Glad you answered the reason to beat this shit first in that post. We're not living to love an addiction, we're living to love those that love and need us. We're working hard to actually deserve that love and need. There is no "need" in addiction, no matter the vice. Our families NEED us.

That moist crap in my eyes is happening again. What the fuck is that?
Damn you guys rock! Kana I think the search for another addiction to replace the abandoned one is just natural especially those of us who have decades of abuse. D that moisture must be from the pollen in the air, the pollen index is high in our area. I'm having the same thing happen. You 2 always excite and encourage me when you post.
Halftime? my progenitors also have lived long but I guess no matter how you look at it I'm well into that 3rd quarter. Lol. We're just getting better and wiser. I'm certainly glad to be with you and all the others regrouping (rather its halftime, a new game or in the final play). It's never to late to quit, even if its the last thing you do, it's worth it. That may sound odd but I will quit with you guys every day and if that quit is my last action I'll be proud to be quit with my KTC brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on May 27, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
I was sick this weekend, so was on the couch all day yesterday. watching boo win a golf tournament with a huge fatty in his cheek. my mind was busy all day, in a different way. you see I wasn't thinking about having a dip.. I was thinking about his struggles. I could see it in his face. I've seen him before with huge dips, but I've never seen him spit. he's gotta be gutting it, or just spits once the red light turns off. When he smiled I could see his insecurity. his yellow teeth from the couch. I'm sure these guys hate high def..Then I started to think about the PGA and how they feel? I'm sure he's a nice guy, but nowaday's image is everything. After it was all over I heard the announcer mention now he could go home, and celebrate with his family. I couldn't help but think all that prize money is worthless if you're dead. All the thinking helped me yesterday, and just made me thankful I don't use that toxic waste anymore..peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Evil_Won on May 27, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I was sick this weekend, so was on the couch all day yesterday. watching boo win a golf tournament with a huge fatty in his cheek. my mind was busy all day, in a different way. you see I wasn't thinking about having a dip.. I was thinking about his struggles. I could see it in his face. I've seen him before with huge dips, but I've never seen him spit. he's gotta be gutting it, or just spits once the red light turns off. When he smiled I could see his insecurity. his yellow teeth from the couch. I'm sure these guys hate high def..Then I started to think about the PGA and how they feel? I'm sure he's a nice guy, but nowaday's image is everything. After it was all over I heard the announcer mention now he could go home, and celebrate with his family. I couldn't help but think all that prize money is worthless if you're dead. All the thinking helped me yesterday, and just made me thankful I don't use that toxic waste anymore..peace
It's funny, as a ninja I never noticed other people doing it, whether it was a baseball player or golfer. I guess it was the internal shame that I had that somehow blocked it. Now, I'm just starting to see clearly again and am noticing dippers. I feel sad for them. Addiction sucks.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on June 12, 2013, 10:43:00 AM
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke) 2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father. I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jayd41 on June 12, 2013, 11:18:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke) 2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father. I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: AppleJack on June 12, 2013, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man

That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: srans on June 12, 2013, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jaynellie on June 12, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Good stuff right there!!! Thanks for sharing that kana, very inspiring.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Murph8804 on June 12, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Good stuff right there!!! Thanks for sharing that kana, very inspiring.
I understand completely I was in a bad place. And this site helped pull me out of it. It's funny how much of an effect one negative habit or influence can have such a hold on your life. Glad to be quit with you!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on June 12, 2013, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: Murph8804
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Good stuff right there!!! Thanks for sharing that kana, very inspiring.
I understand completely I was in a bad place. And this site helped pull me out of it. It's funny how much of an effect one negative habit or influence can have such a hold on your life. Glad to be quit with you!
We've been on this journey together the while time and seen the ups and downs. Your story is so similar to mine it's amazing. Enjoy this nic free birthday and give your son a extra hug!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on June 12, 2013, 10:04:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Murph8804
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Good stuff right there!!! Thanks for sharing that kana, very inspiring.
I understand completely I was in a bad place. And this site helped pull me out of it. It's funny how much of an effect one negative habit or influence can have such a hold on your life. Glad to be quit with you!
We've been on this journey together the while time and seen the ups and downs. Your story is so similar to mine it's amazing. Enjoy this nic free birthday and give your son a extra hug!
Kana, I am so happy for you. You helped my quit immensely, especially early on. Keep up the great work Kana.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Dlee3 on June 12, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Murph8804
Quote from: jaynellie
Quote from: srans
Quote from: AppleJack
Quote from: jayd41
Quote from: kana
Growth Spurt.. Today's another bday (45). Yesterday I was thinking about how fast this last year has gone. I remember my last bday vividly. I had promised myself yet again, that I would quit dipping after being a slave to tobacco for 33 years... That time it lasted 2 days.. (What a joke)  2 months later I was on my knees in depression, and I felt suicidal. I knew what I was doing wasn't right, But I also knew I couldn't stop.. Then one night I prayed for help, and the Lord guided me to KTC.. This was my last chance. Nothing else worked for me.. I followed the vets instructions, and I had a ktc growth spurt. Watching my son this year was amazing, but I have reached new levels myself. Everything about me is different now. Physically, I lost 30lbs, and my chi has grown immensely. I went from a lazy, depressed, sorry ass. To a confident, calm,  loving father.  I eat differently, exercise, think differently, but most importantly I learned to enjoy life again. I finally feel free.. I like many had a tough time, and the last couple months were no exception, but I knew what it was this time. I hadn't been exercising for awhile. Not because I didn't want to, but just to busy at work. Once I got with it again (2 weeks ago) the skies parted, and I'm feeling like that cheetah again.. FYI Swimming, Biking, and yoga 6 days a week will make you feel invincible. I can't remember the last time I thought about a dip, but I did think about forgetting my pack of gum yesterday sigh..
The brain is pretty much re-wired.
The knowledge I gained,  growth I made this year still leave me in awe..
To those vets who guided me. Thank you for saving my life...
To the newbies, post everyday, and keep your word.. It works...
Early on I read others saying it, but now I'm living it.
It's truly amazing over here... but you have to want it... peace :D
That was inspiring...not sure what "chi" is but i want to get me some of that. Congrats man
That was GOLD. Thank you brother...
Good post Kana. Enjoyed the read.
Good stuff right there!!! Thanks for sharing that kana, very inspiring.
I understand completely I was in a bad place. And this site helped pull me out of it. It's funny how much of an effect one negative habit or influence can have such a hold on your life. Glad to be quit with you!
We've been on this journey together the while time and seen the ups and downs. Your story is so similar to mine it's amazing. Enjoy this nic free birthday and give your son a extra hug!
Kana, I am so happy for you. You helped my quit immensely, especially early on. Keep up the great work Kana.
That makes me smile.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on July 03, 2013, 10:42:00 AM
I'll be honest, Once I hit the second floor I got lazy with my daily post. I missed a few hear and there. I kept asking myself the question when am I gonna leave ktc? I tried to leave twice, but kept getting pulled back by someone reaching out to me. Sigh, you guys rock!
Then 2 things happened last week that opened my eyes again.
First I ran into an old customer, he still had a massive wad in the same spot as always. I felt sorry for him, standing there with his wife  daughter. I remembered how dumb I used to look with a dip in.
Secondly I was talking with my sister in law and mentioned that I had gone 300 day's without tobacco, her reply, wow that's great! So what's helen doing? You see she was happy for me, but she has no friggin idea of what it took to get here.
That's why I come to ktc. This is a place where everybody understands each other, and the difficulties of this journey, and also the rewards. Honestly I don't think about chew at all anymore, but I think about helping those that do. I definitely don't have time to post in all the groups like some of you quit madmen, but I'm here for anyone of you. I try to help by posting in my thread, and hopefully it helps someone.
My addiction will never go away, but I have my foot on nics throat, and NO CHANCE of letting up. However, I need to be here to get my quit juice for extra power. I'll never question myself again, and just enjoy my time with all the brothers  sisters on this wonderful sight. peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jaynellie on July 03, 2013, 11:36:00 PM
Quote from: kana
I'll be honest, Once I hit the second floor I got lazy with my daily post. I missed a few hear and there. I kept asking myself the question when am I gonna leave ktc? I tried to leave twice, but kept getting pulled back by someone reaching out to me. Sigh, you guys rock!
Then 2 things happened last week that opened my eyes again.
First I ran into an old customer, he still had a massive wad in the same spot as always. I felt sorry for him, standing there with his wife  daughter. I remembered how dumb I used to look with a dip in.
Secondly I was talking with my sister in law and mentioned that I had gone 300 day's without tobacco, her reply, wow that's great! So what's helen doing? You see she was happy for me, but she has no friggin idea of what it took to get here.
That's why I come to ktc. This is a place where everybody understands each other, and the difficulties of this journey, and also the rewards. Honestly I don't think about chew at all anymore, but I think about helping those that do. I definitely don't have time to post in all the groups like some of you quit madmen, but I'm here for anyone of you. I try to help by posting in my thread, and hopefully it helps someone.
My addiction will never go away, but I have my foot on nics throat, and NO CHANCE of letting up. However,  I need to be here to get my quit juice for extra power. I'll never question myself again, and just enjoy my time with all the brothers  sisters on this wonderful sight. peace
You are an inspiration to my quit and you just nailed it with "Quit Juice"!!! I think i might be a bit smitten..... :wub: Thanks for being...........well YOU.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on July 13, 2013, 09:43:00 AM
(343) As I approach 1 year I had a lot of first's the last couple weeks..

Installed my 4th dishwasher..
Major irrigation repair..
Long road trip..
Vacation.. (First guy I saw had a fatty in by the way)

All these were done WITHOUT dip!!!

Now I'm adding one more, taking my son to see the grandparents  great grandparents.. Today will be my first flight without a dip... I'm so excited!!!!

I didn't even really think about it until now as I write. The day's get better, life has more purpose, life has more meaning.. Please treat your quit with respect, in return your quit will set you free... Big OL PEACE today... :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on July 24, 2013, 10:08:00 AM
(353) Well I survived what I thought would be my 2 largest triggers. I was glad to be approaching a year when these came.. a plane ride, and the parents house.. The 2 most stressful things in my life. First I friggin hate to fly, don't know why or when this happened. Second my parents are getting up there in age, father with dementia. That week really tested my patience. My 6yr old son? he just had a great time with the grandparents. still at that age where everything is so cruise...no worries...
Then we came home.. like all others back to the grind.. At this point I'm feeling pretty confident, I feel good.. I've made those significant changes to my lifestyle that are keeping me healthy. Regular exercise, eating well. Just trying to take care of myself in general. Well you can be the healthiest guy in the world, but dip could still kill you. I had a reminder you see.. Yesterday I was feeling on top of the world until I visited the dentist. They said all my teeth looked good, they couldn't tell where I had kept my dip, so the gums looked good. Then I heard those words. There are ONLY 2 spots of concern. One on the side of the tongue, and one behind my molar same side. My heart sank to my gut as he said they're sending me to the perio for further analysis. Not sure if that means cutting my tongue open, but I'll have to wait 2 weeks to find out. Talk about effin torture, the unknown sucks. The only time you'll hear me use the word "hope" is I hope they're wrong. I hope it was that bag of sunflower seeds I ate the night before. I hope it is a canker soar. I hope this is the same as always and I'm worrying for nothing.. I really, really, hope they're wrong..
Remember folks why we're here, this is about life  death. This is no game.
Quit like your fuggin life depends on it... see you at role
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 04, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: srans on August 04, 2013, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: mich 34 on August 04, 2013, 10:24:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Good work Kana, just say your last intro post, I'll hope with you, keep us informed and hang in there.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jake frawley on August 04, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Evil_Won on August 04, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: jake
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Congrats Kana.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: cdaniels on August 04, 2013, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: jake
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Congrats Kana.
CONGRATS KANA!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mthomas3824 on August 04, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: jake
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Congrats Kana.
CONGRATS KANA!!!
Ditto! :wub:
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: loot on August 04, 2013, 04:14:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: jake
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Congrats Kana.
CONGRATS KANA!!!
Ditto! :wub:
Back to single digits! That rocks. Congrats friends.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: omahaflyer on August 04, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Quote from: loot
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: cdaniels
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: jake
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
365 today! One friggin year, and I'm definitely in a very different place.. One year ago I found KTC.. That first week I was reading on this sight till my eyes bled. Finally something new that I hadn't tried before. A brotherhood, an army of quit that felt the same way I did. Finally I wasn't alone anymore. I found my place in the ASSylum, and together we all march forward gaining more strength with each step. Today I'm quit.. That I can promise you.. Tomorrow I'll tell you the same thing, and that my friends is what got me here. Have a blessed day. PEACE B)
Always enjoy reading what you have to say kana. Lot of good stuff comes from your knowledge of quitting. Glad to have you in this army.
Congrats on a year! Well done! 'worship'
Congrats Kana.
CONGRATS KANA!!!
Ditto! :wub:
Back to single digits! That rocks. Congrats friends.
Well Done !
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 07, 2013, 12:08:00 PM
Reminders - Those annoying things that have plagued us through our quits, eventually they transform into reminders of victory. It's been a year since I quit. Early on seeing others still dipping would mess with my mind, but now I'm just thankful. After leaving the gym yesterday I was craving a banana.. The quick stop is right next door. I completely forgot, but I used to buy my dip there. When I went inside holy shit it was the same kid I told a year ago that I was going to quit. At that time he laughed and said I heard that before. Anyway I was glad to see him! Got my banana headed to the cashier, and told him I had just made my year. He remembered me but looked awkward. He said man I need to quit smoking. I told him the freedom is priceless, and he said he can't quit because he's always around it. It reminded me of those addict excuses.
Excuses - I was told to repair my gums 3 years ago by my dentist. I never did because I thought why fix them if I still dip? That was my excuse. Well the excuses are gone. Yesterday at the dentist I told him I'm doing the procedure. He asked why now. I said because now I'm ready. I don't dip anymore. He said you're done? I said yes. It felt so fucking good to finally say that, and mean it.
The spots he was concerned about came back negative. The rest will just be repairs. He said everything should go well, and he's glad to see me finally taking care of myself. Next week will be painful, but pain reminds you that you're alive.
bring it on I'm ready, and I'm QUIT! peace B)
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: mich 34 on August 07, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Reminders - Those annoying things that have plagued us through our quits, eventually they transform into reminders of victory. It's been a year since I quit. Early on seeing others still dipping would mess with my mind, but now I'm just thankful. After leaving the gym yesterday I was craving a banana.. The quick stop is right next door. I completely forgot, but I used to buy my dip there. When I went inside holy shit it was the same kid I told a year ago that I was going to quit. At that time he laughed and said I heard that before. Anyway I was glad to see him! Got my banana headed to the cashier, and told him I had just made my year. He remembered me but looked awkward. He said man I need to quit smoking. I told him the freedom is priceless, and he said he can't quit because he's always around it. It reminded me of those addict excuses.
Excuses - I was told to repair my gums 3 years ago by my dentist. I never did because I thought why fix them if I still dip? That was my excuse. Well the excuses are gone. Yesterday at the dentist I told him I'm doing the procedure. He asked why now. I said because now I'm ready. I don't dip anymore. He said you're done? I said yes. It felt so fucking good to finally say that, and mean it.
The spots he was concerned about came back negative. The rest will just be repairs. He said everything should go well, and he's glad to see me finally taking care of myself. Next week will be painful, but pain reminds you that you're alive.
bring it on I'm ready, and I'm QUIT! peace B)
kick ass Kana, that brought me a smile today! I'm happy for you and proud to quit with guys like you!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: traumagnet on August 07, 2013, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: kana
Reminders - Those annoying things that have plagued us through our quits, eventually they transform into reminders of victory. It's been a year since I quit. Early on seeing others still dipping would mess with my mind, but now I'm just thankful. After leaving the gym yesterday I was craving a banana.. The quick stop is right next door. I completely forgot, but I used to buy my dip there. When I went inside holy shit it was the same kid I told a year ago that I was going to quit. At that time he laughed and said I heard that before. Anyway I was glad to see him! Got my banana headed to the cashier, and told him I had just made my year. He remembered me but looked awkward. He said man I need to quit smoking. I told him the freedom is priceless, and he said he can't quit because he's always around it. It reminded me of those addict excuses.
Excuses - I was told to repair my gums 3 years ago by my dentist. I never did because I thought why fix them if I still dip? That was my excuse. Well the excuses are gone. Yesterday at the dentist I told him I'm doing the procedure. He asked why now. I said because now I'm ready. I don't dip anymore. He said you're done? I said yes. It felt so fucking good to finally say that, and mean it.
The spots he was concerned about came back negative. The rest will just be repairs. He said everything should go well, and he's glad to see me finally taking care of myself. Next week will be painful, but pain reminds you that you're alive.
bring it on I'm ready, and I'm QUIT! peace B)
kick ass Kana, that brought me a smile today! I'm happy for you and proud to quit with guys like you!
Rock on I totally dig stories like this struggle resolve win. Keep the quit up Kana glad to hear you are sealing the deal tighter by getting the gums fixed.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: wastepanel on August 07, 2013, 03:22:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: mich
Quote from: kana
Reminders - Those annoying things that have plagued us through our quits, eventually they transform into reminders of victory. It's been a year since I quit. Early on seeing others still dipping would mess with my mind, but now I'm just thankful. After leaving the gym yesterday I was craving a banana.. The quick stop is right next door. I completely forgot, but I used to buy my dip there. When I went inside holy shit it was the same kid I told a year ago that I was going to quit. At that time he laughed and said I heard that before. Anyway I was glad to see him! Got my banana headed to the cashier, and told him I had just made my year. He remembered me but looked awkward. He said man I need to quit smoking. I told him the freedom is priceless, and he said he can't quit because he's always around it. It reminded me of those addict excuses.
Excuses - I was told to repair my gums 3 years ago by my dentist. I never did because I thought why fix them if I still dip? That was my excuse. Well the excuses are gone. Yesterday at the dentist I told him I'm doing the procedure. He asked why now. I said because now I'm ready. I don't dip anymore. He said you're done? I said yes. It felt so fucking good to finally say that, and mean it.
The spots he was concerned about came back negative. The rest will just be repairs. He said everything should go well, and he's glad to see me finally taking care of myself. Next week will be painful, but pain reminds you that you're alive.
bring it on I'm ready, and I'm QUIT! peace B)
kick ass Kana, that brought me a smile today! I'm happy for you and proud to quit with guys like you!
Rock on I totally dig stories like this struggle resolve win. Keep the quit up Kana glad to hear you are sealing the deal tighter by getting the gums fixed.
Love what you've become man. You've come so very far from those first, and I'm glad you stuck around. Keep it up, and never forget.

Never again for any reason.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: AppleJack on August 07, 2013, 03:23:00 PM
Quote from: traumagnet
Quote from: mich
Quote from: kana
Reminders - Those annoying things that have plagued us through our quits, eventually they transform into reminders of victory. It's been a year since I quit. Early on seeing others still dipping would mess with my mind, but now I'm just thankful. After leaving the gym yesterday I was craving a banana.. The quick stop is right next door. I completely forgot, but I used to buy my dip there. When I went inside holy shit it was the same kid I told a year ago that I was going to quit. At that time he laughed and said I heard that before. Anyway I was glad to see him! Got my banana headed to the cashier, and told him I had just made my year. He remembered me but looked awkward. He said man I need to quit smoking. I told him the freedom is priceless, and he said he can't quit because he's always around it. It reminded me of those addict excuses.
Excuses - I was told to repair my gums 3 years ago by my dentist. I never did because I thought why fix them if I still dip? That was my excuse. Well the excuses are gone. Yesterday at the dentist I told him I'm doing the procedure. He asked why now. I said because now I'm ready. I don't dip anymore. He said you're done? I said yes. It felt so fucking good to finally say that, and mean it.
The spots he was concerned about came back negative. The rest will just be repairs. He said everything should go well, and he's glad to see me finally taking care of myself. Next week will be painful, but pain reminds you that you're alive.
bring it on I'm ready, and I'm QUIT! peace B)
kick ass Kana, that brought me a smile today! I'm happy for you and proud to quit with guys like you!
Rock on I totally dig stories like this struggle resolve win. Keep the quit up Kana glad to hear you are sealing the deal tighter by getting the gums fixed.

Thanks for your example bro! Quit with you all damn day.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 13, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
Surgery today without a hitch. Was a lot less painful then I imagined. Now comes the healing. I'm entering a deeep trance in my quit where it's all just being absorbed into the serenity surrounding us. Still on those meds haha, gonna sleep good tonight. But today I had the ball and chain removed , and it felt friggin great. I can truly feel as though I'm getting mentally  physically stronger. Great family, fixed gums, quit, football, just keeps getting better everyday. 'Sno'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jhaenel23 on August 13, 2013, 11:04:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Surgery today without a hitch. Was a lot less painful then I imagined. Now comes the healing. I'm entering a deeep trance in my quit where it's all just being absorbed into the serenity surrounding us. Still on those meds haha, gonna sleep good tonight. But today I had the ball and chain removed , and it felt friggin great. I can truly feel as though I'm getting mentally  physically stronger. Great family, fixed gums, quit, football, just keeps getting better everyday. 'Sno'
Good stuff brother!!! Days are getting shorter but football is around the corner!!! Quit with you today!!!

J
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: mich 34 on August 13, 2013, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: jhaenel23
Quote from: kana
Surgery today without a hitch. Was a lot less painful then I imagined.  Now comes the healing. I'm entering a deeep trance in my quit where it's all just being absorbed into the serenity surrounding us. Still on those meds haha, gonna sleep good tonight. But today I had the ball and chain removed , and it felt friggin great. I can truly feel as though I'm getting mentally  physically stronger. Great family,  fixed gums, quit, football, just keeps getting better everyday.  'Sno'
Good stuff brother!!! Days are getting shorter but football is around the corner!!! Quit with you today!!!

J
Glad things went well! looks like greg wrote that post for you... 'Sno' 'Sno' 'Sno'
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: rangy96 on August 13, 2013, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Surgery today without a hitch. Was a lot less painful then I imagined. Now comes the healing. I'm entering a deeep trance in my quit where it's all just being absorbed into the serenity surrounding us. Still on those meds haha, gonna sleep good tonight. But today I had the ball and chain removed , and it felt friggin great. I can truly feel as though I'm getting mentally  physically stronger. Great family, fixed gums, quit, football, just keeps getting better everyday. 'Sno'
Glad to hear that brother. Glad to hear that.

NAFAR.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 14, 2013, 11:54:00 AM
I've always been one to share, so here's some fuel for your quit.
4 incisions  36 stitches to fix the damage tobacco did to my mouth. I was one of the lucky ones, (no cancer so far) all they had to do was repair 30+ years of abuse I did to myself. It makes me sick to my stomach to think all this could've been avoided if I had just taken care of myself.
Yesterday I finally felt good enough to go to the store and get some more popsicles. The cuts in my mouth still fresh and hurting like a mother, I walked through the store. Once I got outside I had to spit. A nice bloody, oozy, disgusting mess into the bush. All I could think about was water.. In my car water.. Then a guy about my age unloaded a mouthful of dip  spit on the ground in the parking lot, right in front of me. He said oh sorry bro! He had no idea of what I had just gone through, and that seeing him do this overwhelmed me with emotions. Maybe he would end up like me? Maybe he'd be one that doesn't make it? I sat in my car thinking I should've shown him the inside of my mouth. Well we can't always help strangers, but we can help each other.
When I first came to KTC I was a mess. I continue to transform into the person I want to be. I was always a very strong person, but that wasn't enough. I now possess something greater than strength, I now have Resolve..
This morning I kissed my son twice, I hugged him a little harder. I watched my sleeping wife, and I thanked god that I finally chose the correct path. Peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on August 31, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
This morning I noticed I only have 1 stitch left to fall out. My mouth is healing nicely, and I'm just thankful it wasn't worse. As bad as it was IT HEALED. Our bodies are amazing things. I'm entering another faze now, as I've learned that each floor was a different faze for me. I listened to different music, I had different feelings about my quit. I got to the point where I would post  battle everyday, but more than anything I wanted to see what the next floor would bring. If I can commit to 1 day, I CAN commit to 100, and then repeat. My word is a boulder of granite, If I say I'll do something, I will follow through.
This last couple weeks I've been working like crazy. Good day's, maybe a bad day or two, but then I realized I hadn't thought about dip at all. Then what amazed me even more? I hadn't even had gum. Nothing in my mouth for a week, even the sunflower seeds I keep in my truck.. I didn't think this was possible, but my Body  MIND are healing. peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: srans on August 31, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: kana
This morning I noticed I only have 1 stitch left to fall out. My mouth is healing nicely, and I'm just thankful it wasn't worse. As bad as it was IT HEALED. Our bodies are amazing things. I'm entering another faze now, as I've learned that each floor was a different faze for me. I listened to different music, I had different feelings about my quit. I got to the point where I would post  battle everyday, but more than anything I wanted to see what the next floor would bring. If I can commit to 1 day, I CAN commit to 100, and then repeat. My word is a boulder of granite, If I say I'll do something, I will follow through.
This last couple weeks I've been working like crazy. Good day's, maybe a bad day or two, but then I realized I hadn't thought about dip at all. Then what amazed me even more? I hadn't even had gum. Nothing in my mouth for a week, even the sunflower seeds I keep in my truck.. I didn't think this was possible, but my Body  MIND are healing. peace
Great to hear this kana. I'm still using gum and toothpicks, more so the toothpicks. I'm about to hit 200 and i'm thinking it's time to get rid of the crutches. If I can get rid of the poison i can surely get rid of sticks. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mjollnir on August 31, 2013, 10:48:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
This morning I noticed I only have 1 stitch left to fall out. My mouth is healing nicely, and I'm just thankful it wasn't worse. As bad as it was IT HEALED. Our bodies are amazing things. I'm entering another faze now, as I've learned that each floor was a different faze for me. I listened to different music, I had different feelings about my quit. I got to the point where I would post  battle everyday, but more than anything I wanted to see what the next floor would bring. If I can commit to 1 day, I CAN commit to 100, and then repeat. My word is a boulder of granite, If I say I'll do something, I will follow through.
This last couple weeks I've been working like crazy. Good day's, maybe a bad day or two, but then I realized I hadn't thought about dip at all. Then what amazed me even more? I hadn't even had gum. Nothing in my mouth for a week, even the sunflower seeds I keep in my truck.. I didn't think this was possible, but my Body  MIND are healing. peace
Great to hear this kana. I'm still using gum and toothpicks, more so the toothpicks. I'm about to hit 200 and i'm thinking it's time to get rid of the crutches. If I can get rid of the poison i can surely get rid of sticks. Glad to be quit with you.
Life is a journey. As we travel the road, we make choices. These choices take different paths and new people, things and ideas enter our worlds. At the same time other things are left behind. Even a span of 100 days brings changes. A season is only 91 days.

Enjoy your health.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mike from AB on August 31, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Congrats on making it past a year Kana! I had to go back  read your whole story, just impressed by the awesome work that can go into getting a clean year. Wow!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on September 02, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
Quote from: Mike
Congrats on making it past a year Kana!  I had to go back  read your whole story, just impressed by the awesome work that can go into getting a clean year.  Wow!
thanks.. your quit is like a painting, it's never done.. I work on it a little each day. it's starting to look like something, and I hang it on my wall proudly. One of the most important things I did early on was positive reinforcement thinking. When I craved i simply told myself that I no longer dip. many times out loud to myself. My neighbors heard it I'm sure. point is to re-program your thinking.
another thing that helped me:
When I was a kid (before corruption) I would get a lifesavers bible book every xmas. It had 10 varieties of lifesavers, but only 1 roll was butter rum. I wouldn't eat anything but that butter rum, my dad ate the others. anyway they sell those things at the store now. I bought a pack awhile back, slipped one in wow was it good. That taste brought back so many memories, and the memories were pre - addiction, my point is the mind is very powerful, find something you enjoyed before you were an addict, it's a great positive tool for the box. peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on September 02, 2013, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Mike
Congrats on making it past a year Kana!  I had to go back  read your whole story, just impressed by the awesome work that can go into getting a clean year.  Wow!
thanks.. your quit is like a painting, it's never done.. I work on it a little each day. it's starting to look like something, and I hang it on my wall proudly. One of the most important things I did early on was positive reinforcement thinking. When I craved i simply told myself that I no longer dip. many times out loud to myself. My neighbors heard it I'm sure. point is to re-program your thinking.
another thing that helped me:
When I was a kid (before corruption) I would get a lifesavers bible book every xmas. It had 10 varieties of lifesavers, but only 1 roll was butter rum. I wouldn't eat anything but that butter rum, my dad ate the others. anyway they sell those things at the store now. I bought a pack awhile back, slipped one in wow was it good. That taste brought back so many memories, and the memories were pre - addiction, my point is the mind is very powerful, find something you enjoyed before you were an addict, it's a great positive tool for the box. peace
Love it Kana,

read that and had to bust out laughing as I was the same with the life savers. For me it was the butter rum and the black cherry. But yes the same memories are there.

proud to be standing right here beside you quit on this great day.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on September 08, 2013, 10:27:00 AM
400 FOUR HUNDO - i don't know why but this was an important # too me.. I'm definitely in another zone now. One of the things i'm most proud of is watching my son lately. when i started 400 days ago, i was still a man of excess. everything was a gorge. it has been a priority for me to teach my son about moderation. watching lately has brought a tear to my eye. yesterday his first pet (hamster) died. i tried to cheer him up with some ice cream. after he had a scoop i asked him if he wanted more? his reply - no thanks dad, i already had one scoop, and that's enough. he's been doing this with all his food. loves donuts, but he knows they're only once a week. i have successfully programmed moderation into his brain. this along with me kicking the shit out of nic for 400 days? I'm presently a happy man. stay strong quitters, it's so worth it... peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on September 08, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: kana
400 FOUR HUNDO - i don't know why but this was an important # too me.. I'm definitely in another zone now. One of the things i'm most proud of is watching my son lately. when i started 400 days ago, i was still a man of excess. everything was a gorge. it has been a priority for me to teach my son about moderation. watching lately has brought a tear to my eye. yesterday his first pet (hamster) died. i tried to cheer him up with some ice cream. after he had a scoop i asked him if he wanted more? his reply - no thanks dad, i already had one scoop, and that's enough. he's been doing this with all his food. loves donuts, but he knows they're only once a week. i have successfully programmed moderation into his brain. this along with me kicking the shit out of nic for 400 days? I'm presently a happy man. stay strong quitters, it's so worth it... peace
Congrats on 4th floor Kana. Great role model for your kid. Isnt it great to look them in the eyes and with a clear conscience. Could you imagine teaching them a lesson about anything with a fat dip in your mouth? Self control and moderation, I am with you man. Carry on, I suspect it just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Mike from AB on September 08, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Congrats on 400 days that's awesome work!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on December 30, 2013, 11:22:00 AM
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: cdmavs41 on December 30, 2013, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: kana
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
'party2'
That was really a great thing to read dude! I'm really happy to see you back on the site, but I'm even more happy to read that your time spent away was a means to become even stronger and finally throw off that final yoke. I'll quit with you any day!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on December 30, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: kana
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
'party2'
That was really a great thing to read dude! I'm really happy to see you back on the site, but I'm even more happy to read that your time spent away was a means to become even stronger and finally throw off that final yoke. I'll quit with you any day!
this made my day.

Am happy for you and will stand right beside you in any fight that we need to be in.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on December 30, 2013, 10:41:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: kana
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
'party2'
That was really a great thing to read dude! I'm really happy to see you back on the site, but I'm even more happy to read that your time spent away was a means to become even stronger and finally throw off that final yoke. I'll quit with you any day!
this made my day.

Am happy for you and will stand right beside you in any fight that we need to be in.
Kana, as you were with me one year ago in the early days of my quit, I am with you now on this journey.

Happy Birthday to your son. Tanner is lucky to have a father that is taking steps to better himself. I too have a 7 year old. And it is my hope and prayer that he and my other children do not have to make the same mistakes that I have made.

Quit on Kana.

Ryan
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Wt57 on December 30, 2013, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: kana
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
'party2'
That was really a great thing to read dude! I'm really happy to see you back on the site, but I'm even more happy to read that your time spent away was a means to become even stronger and finally throw off that final yoke. I'll quit with you any day!
this made my day.

Am happy for you and will stand right beside you in any fight that we need to be in.
Kana, as you were with me one year ago in the early days of my quit, I am with you now on this journey.

Happy Birthday to your son. Tanner is lucky to have a father that is taking steps to better himself. I too have a 7 year old. And it is my hope and prayer that he and my other children do not have to make the same mistakes that I have made.

Quit on Kana.

Ryan
Kana and Ryan, congratulations to both of you. I waited a whole generation, my grandson just turned 6. It's taken me a long time to reach this point also but the past is gone and we may not see tomorrow but each of us are better men because we face our addictions and demons today. A huge part of recovery is reaching out and helping others. I'm not sure paying forward what I've received from so many here can ever be fulfilled.

Kana you sure drug that post out, I thought you were dropping a big cave on us and I couldn't believe it. A word of warning, you were right when you said we replace addictions with others and I'm still catching myself doing that. Until we face the demons that we all have we still fight recovery.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: brettlees on January 01, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: cdmavs41
Quote from: kana
An American Purification- 10 years in the makingÂ…

I apologize for my absence, but I didn't feel I deserved to be here. I knew I had to post another day 1. The addict in me fought very hard, but in the end I surrendered, it's time to face my fears head on. it's time to bury selfishness once and for all..

Dec, 30th marks the day I finally take back control. Today is the first day I'm absolutely 100% free of all corruption. The lies have been flowing my entire life. It's been 3 months since I wrote on this page, and there's a reason it took so long. I've been lying to myself  once again i've entered a battle. I had that feeling in my gut again, and I needed it to go away. However this time it's different. This is my last battle because this will end my war for good.. The last 3 battles have made me a strong mother fucker, and I can no longer be defeated. Today I WILL ACTUALLY KILL THE FUCKING BEAR...

The story is simple, I'm an addict. Like all addicts if you remove something (DIP) (ALCOHOL) we will simply replace it. My addictions have run deep, but one by one they have fallen. For those of you who don't know me I will sum it up for you.

Everything I do is cold turkey. I want to feel the pain to remind me I'm alive.
I beat down the alcohol bitch 9 1/2 yrs ago, but dipped all day long to replace it. I made a promise to god I'd quit dip when my son was born. That was a lie. I continued dipping another 5 years. When I tried to quit on my own with a dr.'s help it lasted 8 months. They gave my fucked up depression  anxiety pills. I was on those a long time without telling anybody. One day I blacked out and hit my head on the concrete. I felt lucky to still be breathing, as I was home alone and have no idea how long I was out. It scared the shit out of my wife  son. I still felt like a reckless fool. Then dr. fuckhead decided to take me off those and give me medical marijuana. (Not a good idea for an addict) I was High the entire time during my dip quit. I felt guilty every time I came on here. I saw others with a way to vent, (alcohol) so I told myself I needed the weed, and it was ok. The dr. prescribed it, it must be ok. That's the addict coming up with excuses. That's proof that when it comes to addiction dr.'s don't know shit.. His way failed, This time I will take this in my own hands, and fight like the fucking Mongol I am. The body is amazing, with a strong mind it will heal itself...

All my life I've been searching for peace, but addictions have stood in the way. Many people just take a different route, but reel men remove the blockage, and carry on. Always move forward without side stepping. Be a man..

The signs were everywhere, the lord was telling me to pull my head out once and for all. He has been patient with me knowing what I'm going through, however I kept eating from his basket, and he finally said enough.
Inevitability can only be put off so long.

I now know why I'm here, I'm hear to finally receive the peace I crave. (Thanks KTC) I'm here to help others see the light. To tell others you don't have to go through all the suffering as I did. One day at a time to reach freedom.
Freedom isn't free, always remember that..

I decided the legacy I leave my son will be addiction free. This is the single most important thing I want to teach my son. The curse will end with me, and my legacy will be pure..

Today is my sons 7th birthday..

Today I'm 100% pure for the first time in 33 years.

Alcohol free - 08/15/2004
Tobacco free - 08/05/2012
Drug free - 12/30/2013

Happy Birthday Tanner, I love you...
'party2'
That was really a great thing to read dude! I'm really happy to see you back on the site, but I'm even more happy to read that your time spent away was a means to become even stronger and finally throw off that final yoke. I'll quit with you any day!
this made my day.

Am happy for you and will stand right beside you in any fight that we need to be in.
Kana, as you were with me one year ago in the early days of my quit, I am with you now on this journey.

Happy Birthday to your son. Tanner is lucky to have a father that is taking steps to better himself. I too have a 7 year old. And it is my hope and prayer that he and my other children do not have to make the same mistakes that I have made.

Quit on Kana.

Ryan
Kana and Ryan, congratulations to both of you. I waited a whole generation, my grandson just turned 6. It's taken me a long time to reach this point also but the past is gone and we may not see tomorrow but each of us are better men because we face our addictions and demons today. A huge part of recovery is reaching out and helping others. I'm not sure paying forward what I've received from so many here can ever be fulfilled.

Kana you sure drug that post out, I thought you were dropping a big cave on us and I couldn't believe it. A word of warning, you were right when you said we replace addictions with others and I'm still catching myself doing that. Until we face the demons that we all have we still fight recovery.
This is the truly tranformational work, when you try to get past not just the nic addiciton but addiction in general. Anyone doing it gets my respect. -- Looking deep- other addictions, and why any addiction? Hopefully once I get a little more temporal distance between me and nicotine I'll be able to jump into the topic a little deeper myself. Thanks for the openess and courage in the meantime- it helps everyone heal and grow to bring things from the dark to the light.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 04, 2014, 10:13:00 AM
All my life I thought there was something wrong with me.. My short sided temper has done me in on many occasion.. Some of the biggest let downs in my life, or transitional times have been due to the fact that I lost my cool.. Dropping fbombs to otherwise innocent people.. Namely my wife, son  family.. I could hear her telling my boy, don't worry about daddy he's just sick.. She's been saying that since he was old enough to listen.. I felt shamed because I couldn't control myself. I lost 2 great jobs due to my anger issues..
After years of listening to doctors that get kickbacks from drug companies, I decided to try a different approach.. I decided to try something the Dr.s NEVER prescribed.. being addiction free.. I tossed my last addiction 6 days ago and I simply feel cheated.. I have never felt better in my life.. the anger is goneÂ… Addicts are at their worst when they're coming down, and right after ingestion.. That's when your heart rate rises. By eliminating those I have set myself free. Instead of feeling sorry for myself I took my life in my own hands. Sure I feel the withdrawals, but I know these will go away.. Being 100% clean  exercise is all I needed to find my peace.. Please try these FIRST before you go to meds.. Some of the meds are more addictive  disruptive than you think.. I believed all the lies for too long.. Of all the crap I gave up NICOTINE was by far the hardest. Know that once you beat her down you can accomplish ANYTHING.
The only way I will increase my heart rate now is through exercise, any other way just isn't healthyÂ…go in peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on January 04, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: kana
All my life I thought there was something wrong with me.. My short sided temper has done me in on many occasion.. Some of the biggest let downs in my life, or transitional times have been due to the fact that I lost my cool.. Dropping fbombs to otherwise innocent people.. Namely my wife, son  family.. I could hear her telling my boy, don't worry about daddy he's just sick.. She's been saying that since he was old enough to listen.. I felt shamed because I couldn't control myself. I lost 2 great jobs due to my anger issues..
After years of listening to doctors that get kickbacks from drug companies, I decided to try a different approach.. I decided to try something the Dr.s NEVER prescribed.. being addiction free.. I tossed my last addiction 6 days ago and I simply feel cheated.. I have never felt better in my life.. the anger is goneÂ… Addicts are at their worst when they're coming down, and right after ingestion.. That's when your heart rate rises. By eliminating those I have set myself free. Instead of feeling sorry for myself I took my life in my own hands. Sure I feel the withdrawals, but I know these will go away.. Being 100% clean  exercise is all I needed to find my peace.. Please try these FIRST before you go to meds.. Some of the meds are more addictive  disruptive than you think.. I believed all the lies for too long.. Of all the crap I gave up NICOTINE was by far the hardest. Know that once you beat her down you can accomplish ANYTHING.
The only way I will increase my heart rate now is through exercise, any other way just isn't healthyÂ…go in peace
Awesome!!!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: srans on January 04, 2014, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: kana
All my life I thought there was something wrong with me.. My short sided temper has done me in on many occasion.. Some of the biggest let downs in my life, or transitional times have been due to the fact that I lost my cool.. Dropping fbombs to otherwise innocent people.. Namely my wife, son  family.. I could hear her telling my boy, don't worry about daddy he's just sick.. She's been saying that since he was old enough to listen.. I felt shamed because I couldn't control myself. I lost 2 great jobs due to my anger issues..
After years of listening to doctors that get kickbacks from drug companies, I decided to try a different approach.. I decided to try something the Dr.s NEVER prescribed.. being addiction free.. I tossed my last addiction 6 days ago and I simply feel cheated.. I have never felt better in my life.. the anger is goneÂ… Addicts are at their worst when they're coming down, and right after ingestion.. That's when your heart rate rises. By eliminating those I have set myself free. Instead of feeling sorry for myself I took my life in my own hands. Sure I feel the withdrawals, but I know these will go away.. Being 100% clean  exercise is all I needed to find my peace.. Please try these FIRST before you go to meds.. Some of the meds are more addictive  disruptive than you think.. I believed all the lies for too long.. Of all the crap I gave up NICOTINE was by far the hardest. Know that once you beat her down you can accomplish ANYTHING.
The only way I will increase my heart rate now is through exercise, any other way just isn't healthyÂ…go in peace
That's what i've realized through this kana. Beating nicotine addiction is just the beginning. I'm on this path with you brother. If I see you stumbling I'll help you get your footing and I expect the same from you.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 04, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
All my life I thought there was something wrong with me.. My short sided temper has done me in on many occasion.. Some of the biggest let downs in my life, or transitional times have been due to the fact that I lost my cool.. Dropping fbombs to otherwise innocent people.. Namely my wife, son  family.. I could hear her telling my boy, don't worry about daddy he's just sick.. She's been saying that since he was old enough to listen.. I felt shamed because I couldn't control myself. I lost 2 great jobs due to my anger issues..
After years of listening to doctors that get kickbacks from drug companies, I decided to try a different approach.. I decided to try something the Dr.s NEVER prescribed.. being addiction free.. I tossed my last addiction 6 days ago and I simply feel cheated.. I have never felt better in my life.. the anger is goneÂ… Addicts are at their worst when they're coming down, and right after ingestion.. That's when your heart rate rises. By eliminating those I have set myself free. Instead of feeling sorry for myself I took my life in my own hands. Sure I feel the withdrawals, but I know these will go away.. Being 100% clean  exercise is all I needed to find my peace.. Please try these FIRST before you go to meds.. Some of the meds are more addictive  disruptive than you think.. I believed all the lies for too long..  Of all the crap I gave up NICOTINE was by far the hardest. Know that once you beat her down you can accomplish ANYTHING.
The only way I will increase my heart rate now is through exercise, any other way just isn't healthyÂ…go in peace
That's what i've realized through this kana. Beating nicotine addiction is just the beginning. I'm on this path with you brother. If I see you stumbling I'll help you get your footing and I expect the same from you.
Just when you need an inspirational kick in the pants. Thanks for the post Kana and every day I take a step towards being a better, more complete person...and I do it without dip. Feels great. Quit with you today brother.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: SirDerek on January 04, 2014, 12:43:00 PM
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Quote from: srans
Quote from: kana
All my life I thought there was something wrong with me.. My short sided temper has done me in on many occasion.. Some of the biggest let downs in my life, or transitional times have been due to the fact that I lost my cool.. Dropping fbombs to otherwise innocent people.. Namely my wife, son  family.. I could hear her telling my boy, don't worry about daddy he's just sick.. She's been saying that since he was old enough to listen.. I felt shamed because I couldn't control myself. I lost 2 great jobs due to my anger issues..
After years of listening to doctors that get kickbacks from drug companies, I decided to try a different approach.. I decided to try something the Dr.s NEVER prescribed.. being addiction free.. I tossed my last addiction 6 days ago and I simply feel cheated.. I have never felt better in my life.. the anger is goneÂ… Addicts are at their worst when they're coming down, and right after ingestion.. That's when your heart rate rises. By eliminating those I have set myself free. Instead of feeling sorry for myself I took my life in my own hands. Sure I feel the withdrawals, but I know these will go away.. Being 100% clean  exercise is all I needed to find my peace.. Please try these FIRST before you go to meds.. Some of the meds are more addictive  disruptive than you think.. I believed all the lies for too long..   Of all the crap I gave up NICOTINE was by far the hardest. Know that once you beat her down you can accomplish ANYTHING.
The only way I will increase my heart rate now is through exercise, any other way just isn't healthyÂ…go in peace
That's what i've realized through this kana. Beating nicotine addiction is just the beginning. I'm on this path with you brother. If I see you stumbling I'll help you get your footing and I expect the same from you.
Just when you need an inspirational kick in the pants. Thanks for the post Kana and every day I take a step towards being a better, more complete person...and I do it without dip. Feels great. Quit with you today brother.
Damn Kana my brother, you are taking this to the max.

when we join here at KTC, we have the main purpose of quitting nicotine and putting this addiction in check. What happens is we uncover and find out a lot about our self as we go through this process. Some find they need to stop other addictions (other drugs, alcohol), others find they replace the hole (for lack of a better word) with a positive action (exercise, other hobbies). And when we take this new found attitude from quitting and apply it to other aspects, it only makes us better.

So as I have seen in your thread here along with others, yes I am hooked now on exercise and am striving to get most of the alcohol out of my life.

You have inspired.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 17, 2014, 11:12:00 AM
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Pinched on January 17, 2014, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: kana
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Amen, brother, well done sir!

Congrats on a good visit. Feel s good to see those cute little hygienists smile when they look in your mouth now doesn't it?
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Diesel2112 on January 17, 2014, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: kana
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Amen, brother, well done sir!

Congrats on a good visit. Feel s good to see those cute little hygienists smile when they look in your mouth now doesn't it?
Great work!!!

Any truth to the rumor your dentist said, " you now have the whitest teeth I have ever cum across?"

:D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on January 25, 2014, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: kana
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Amen, brother, well done sir!

Congrats on a good visit. Feel s good to see those cute little hygienists smile when they look in your mouth now doesn't it?
Great work!!!

Any truth to the rumor your dentist said, " you now have the whitest teeth I have ever cum across?"

:D
i always request katrina.. she's the only hygienist that rubs her tits on my head during cleaning.. :D
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: jbradley on January 25, 2014, 10:10:00 AM
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: kana
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Amen, brother, well done sir!

Congrats on a good visit. Feel s good to see those cute little hygienists smile when they look in your mouth now doesn't it?
Great work!!!

Any truth to the rumor your dentist said, " you now have the whitest teeth I have ever cum across?"

:D
i always request katrina.. she's the only hygienist that rubs her tits on my head during cleaning.. :D
You should send me your dentists #!
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Evil_Won on January 25, 2014, 12:05:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: kana
Quote from: Diesel2112
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: kana
dentist yesterday - In the old days I just wouldn't go.. I knew what he would say, (your mouth looks like shit), and I was afraid of what he would find. This time I was excited to go, maybe to relieve myself, but in the back of my mind is always the dreaded C. I still have bumps in my mouth, so of course my thoughts where running wild. I hadn't seen him in 9 months due to the perio cutting the shit out of my mouth to fix the years of tobacco use. (2 surgeries) My hygienist was floored with the way my mouth looked (good). She hadn't seen me since early on in my quit. I had told her  dr. about ktc, for others that needed help, and they always ask how I'm doing. I told them over 500 days, and that felt REALLY good. The bumps turned out to be scar tissue, and he said everything healed nicely. ODAAT (thanks WT) is the recipe for success.
Stay quit  one day you'll be free.. peace
Amen, brother, well done sir!

Congrats on a good visit. Feel s good to see those cute little hygienists smile when they look in your mouth now doesn't it?
Great work!!!

Any truth to the rumor your dentist said, " you now have the whitest teeth I have ever cum across?"

:D
i always request katrina.. she's the only hygienist that rubs her tits on my head during cleaning.. :D
You should send me your dentists #!
Congrats kana on the good tooth report and the 500+ days. My hygienist is nice, but a real pig. :unsure:
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: kana on February 01, 2014, 11:14:00 AM
Being nicotine free is like completing the Ironman, over  over  over again.. I have been on a long road my friends, and the scenery is getting really nice.. I've had to quit multiple addictions, and nicotine was by far the hardest, and most rewarding.. I say this to give you fuel.. It takes a special breed to do what we're doing.. people have no idea of the daily commitment  resolve it takes to win this race.. Don't look to (normal people) for a pat on the back.. They wouldn't make it the first mile. Only others on the same path will understand.. peace
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on February 01, 2014, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: kana
Being nicotine free is like completing the Ironman, over  over  over again.. I have been on a long road my friends, and the scenery is getting really nice.. I've had to quit multiple addictions, and nicotine was by far the hardest, and most rewarding.. I say this to give you fuel.. It takes a special breed to do what we're doing.. people have no idea of the daily commitment  resolve it takes to win this race.. Don't look to (normal people) for a pat on the back.. They wouldn't make it the first mile. Only others on the same path will understand.. peace
True dat Kana. I was just speaking on this topic earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Live Chat
Post by: Winter Green on February 24, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
Kana, did you forget about us in the other quit group? Is everything alright? You just disappeared ;Ironman: