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Title: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 16, 2012, 01:22:00 AM
Hi,
My name is Keith. I'm 30 years old. I am married with 3 kids, all girls, ages 6, 3 and 18 months. I have been a dipper of Copenhagen long cut for 15 years now at about a can a day as long as I can remember. I found a small sore on my inside jaw last week and am praying to god that it just goes away. I've been looking at cancer pics all week and whatever is going on in my mouth doesn't seem to match them but none the less I am scared to death. Today I found this site so I am on day 1 about 12 hours now and am starting to feel the withdrawals. I am scared that I might have cancer but yet am feeling a strong need for a chew right now. Any advice that will help me.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: cbird65 on June 16, 2012, 08:23:00 AM
Fear will not carry your quit. Make a determined decision and kick your nicotine habit to the curb. This site can help. There are no short cuts, but here are some links that will help you navigate this site. Rule number one, this is a no nicotine site, period, end of story.

Biggest thing to do is get acquainted with this site. Highly recommend you go here: WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

 What to Expect When You Quit Dipping (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)

Spousal Support (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp)

This a a NO NICOTINE SITE, period, no discussion.

We "Post Roll Call" daily ( our promise to ourselves and to our brothers not to use nicotine today)- We DO THIS DAILY
Make posting roll the first step of your daily proactive quit.

Where to post roll call: PRE SEPT HOF 2012 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6493)

How to post roll (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)

Read, read, read: Read for knowledge, to fight a crave, combat a cave or sheer entertainment
Intros (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=25)
Hall of Fame Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=9)
Words of Wisdom  (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41)

Need to  CHAT (http://chat.killthecan.org/)

PM if I can help
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Wt57 on June 16, 2012, 08:30:00 AM
Keith if the sore goes away will you still have the fear? Check your inbox.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: ChewIsTheBrownDevil on June 16, 2012, 09:25:00 AM
I remember looking at endless oral cancer pictures, reading all of the warning labels on every can, the surgeon general's warnings, and all of the annoying cancer hecklers that would chime in every time I popped a dip in my lip. None of that was enough to make me quit and stay quit. I'm sure we all know this or at least some before the first time we ever try it. We roll the dice anyway. One thing is certain, making bargains will not make the sores go away or reduce your chances of getting cancer.

I'm not trying to discourage you. Exactly the opposite. I hope you do quit and stay that way but I am finding that making the decision to quit for me was easier when it had nothing to do with reacting to possible consequences. For me it was in and of itself a personal choice not a personal threat.

PM anytime.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: carumba10 on June 16, 2012, 09:35:00 AM
Quote from: ChewIsTheBrownDevil

I hope you do quit and stay that way but I am finding that making the decision to quit for me was easier when it had nothing to do with reacting to possible consequences. For me it was in and of itself a personal choice not a personal threat.
Same applies to me. Probably because I am numb from the daily reports that everything I eat, drink and do is bad for my health.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 16, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
Thanks for all your comments I posted roll I am in sept class now
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Ready on June 16, 2012, 12:21:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Thanks for all your comments I posted roll I am in sept class now
You can do this.

Keep your word.

It will get better.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 16, 2012, 01:15:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Thanks for all your comments I posted roll I am in sept class now

Glad to hear you broke up and ended your relationship with the nic whore.

You are going to have battles, you will have mood swings. Use us as a punching bag, vent your frustrations here. Kill the can but kill your family with kindness.

You are the addict and your family didn't do this to you. So thank them for supporting you. You can win and you can quit today.

Welcome.

I sent you my contact in your pm for support.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: RAZD611 on June 16, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
There are only two things to be scared of:
1. women
2. police


Gator Mcclusky
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: swimmerdave on June 16, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Stay quit - do not cave - unless you are a wus.

Read everything you can in hear - especially the hof speeches.
Stay quit no matter what - do no let the bitch win!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: swimmerdave on June 16, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Stay quit - do not cave - unless you are a wus.

Read everything you can in hear - especially the hof speeches.
Stay quit no matter what - do no let the bitch win!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: MSymonds on June 16, 2012, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: swimmerdave
Stay quit - do not cave - unless you are a wus.

Read everything you can in hear - especially the hof speeches.
Stay quit no matter what - do no let the bitch win!!!
Print the spouse support page. My wife found it very helpful and she has been getting on here and reading some of the materials.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: mikegooch on June 17, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Keith.. Hey man.. This is Gooch.. SO glad you are here Bro.. I am 44 I have been hooked on dip/nic for a very long time. I have had 5 gum graft (maybe more?) surgeries all due to dipping. Sometimes I would dip in my top lip hours after the surgery because I had stitches in my lower gum. That is insanity.. I too have had countless sores and lesions in my mouth over the years. One time my dentists was going to take a bio and send it away to test it to see if it was cancer.. (none turned out to be cancer yet) still I kept on dipping.. day in day out.. sometimes i would quit for a week or two.. a day or two.. sometimes an hour or two.. but I always started back. I have not dipped for 7 days now thanks to this site and my new friends here. I feel better and more confident about my quit than ever before. Stick around.. Post roll.. and say this to your self.. I AM QUIT! More than likely you dont have cancer its just a sore.. more than likely you will if you dont quit!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Smokeyg on June 17, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
You may not be able to quit forever (or even this entire week), but you sure as hell can fight through a single withdrawal. One at a time.

We're all on quit day # today.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 17, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
Keith.. Hey man.. This is Gooch.. SO glad you are here Bro.. I am 44 I have been hooked on dip/nic for a very long time. I have had 5 gum graft (maybe more?) surgeries all due to dipping. Sometimes I would dip in my top lip hours after the surgery because I had stitches in my lower gum. That is insanity.. I too have had countless sores and lesions in my mouth over the years. One time my dentists was going to take a bio and send it away to test it to see if it was cancer.. (none turned out to be cancer yet) still I kept on dipping.. day in day out.. sometimes i would quit for a week or two.. a day or two.. sometimes an hour or two.. but I always started back. I have not dipped for 7 days now thanks to this site and my new friends here. I feel better and more confident about my quit than ever before. Stick around.. Post roll.. and say this to your self.. I AM QUIT! More than likely you dont have cancer its just a sore.. more than likely you will if you dont quit!

Wow your messed up ! Lol, hey man I have never had to go through that but I am heading there if I don't quit. I am on day 2 staying strong screw the nic bitch. I keep hearing more than likely it ain't cancer but there still is a chance I am praying everyday that I don't . I don't care how bad the cravings are I am done . I can do this one day at a time with God and brothers like you. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 17, 2012, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Keith.. Hey man.. This is Gooch.. SO glad you are here Bro.. I am 44 I have been hooked on dip/nic for a very long time.  I have had 5 gum graft (maybe more?) surgeries all due to dipping.  Sometimes I would dip in my top lip hours after the surgery because I had stitches in my lower gum.  That is insanity..  I too have had countless sores and lesions in my mouth over the years.  One time my dentists was going to take a bio and send it away to test it to see if it was cancer.. (none turned out to be cancer yet) still I kept on dipping.. day in day out.. sometimes i would quit for a week or two.. a day or two.. sometimes an hour or two.. but I always started back.  I have not dipped for 7 days now thanks to this site and my new friends here.  I feel better and more confident about my quit than ever before.  Stick around.. Post roll.. and say this to your self.. I AM QUIT!  More than likely you dont have cancer its just a sore.. more than likely you will if you dont quit!

Wow your messed up ! Lol, hey man I have never had to go through that but I am heading there if I don't quit. I am on day 2 staying strong screw the nic bitch. I keep hearing more than likely it ain't cancer but there still is a chance I am praying everyday that I don't . I don't care how bad the cravings are I am done . I can do this one day at a time with God and brothers like you. Stay strong!
Great dialog and good for me to read. The days quit add up. Keep a journal of your quit. We don't quit past today but I don't think it hurts to look back and celebrate, remember, and take in the victories of being quit.

You both have overcome more in a few days than others who only wish to quit. Battling the addiction and winning that battle will sure up your quit, your word, your integrity, your freedom.

You may have said no and abstained from the evil weed but your victory and reward is great!

You are proof that if you have the desire to quit, you will have the capability and capacity to win the war.

The big mind trick...just one will devastate you. You will hate that you caved, you will be back in bondage and you will come to a point where you want to quit again.

Your are quit and strong in it!

Thanks again for sharing, it strengthens us all in our matches. So pleased with my undefeated record. 96 to 0. I got scoreboard on the nic bitch!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Day 3 first day commuting without a dip in my mouth. It was not that bad I used alot of seeds. I hope that hooch stuff is waiting for me when I get home cuz the seeds are hurting my mouth more than the chew was but a least I am not killing myself.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Skoal Monster on June 18, 2012, 11:33:00 AM
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit? Who'd a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at time grasshoppa, you got this
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 12:01:00 PM
Quote from: Skoal
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit? Who'd a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at time grasshoppa, you got this
Yeah who would of thunk it! I can do this one day at a time!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 18, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Skoal
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit?  Who'd  a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at  time  grasshoppa, you got this
Yeah who would of thunk it! I can do this one day at a time!
'Sing and Drink'

I have a new quit buddy! You have it figured out already. Only quit today. Never, ever break your promise you make today. Screw tomorrow until it is tomorrow.

In order to stay undefeated with the nic bitch, you can never look past the match you have today. If you don't win today, you will not be undefeated tomorrow. So focus and 100% of your quit is on today. Not on the future.

That philosophy has me still undefeated with the nic bitch.

Yeah you hear that tobacco industry, the score in 97 to 0 today. You're my bitch now! 'Finger' Nicotine, better to run and hide from me. You show up in my face and I will kill you! You temp any of my friends and I will cheer as they slice your throat and you bleed out. No Mercy for you. Run and hide, it would be better for you if you just die.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 01:16:00 PM
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Skoal
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit?  Who'd  a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at  time  grasshoppa, you got this
Yeah who would of thunk it! I can do this one day at a time!
'Sing and Drink'

I have a new quit buddy! You have it figured out already. Only quit today. Never, ever break your promise you make today. Screw tomorrow until it is tomorrow.

In order to stay undefeated with the nic bitch, you can never look past the match you have today. If you don't win today, you will not be undefeated tomorrow. So focus and 100% of your quit is on today. Not on the future.

That philosophy has me still undefeated with the nic bitch.

Yeah you hear that tobacco industry, the score in 97 to 0 today. You're my bitch now! 'Finger' Nicotine, better to run and hide from me. You show up in my face and I will kill you! You temp any of my friends and I will cheer as they slice your throat and you bleed out. No Mercy for you. Run and hide, it would be better for you if you just die.
Heck yeah you taught me bro. Consider me your student happy to quit with you.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: p23 on June 18, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Skoal
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit?  Who'd  a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at  time  grasshoppa, you got this
Yeah who would of thunk it! I can do this one day at a time!
'Sing and Drink'

I have a new quit buddy! You have it figured out already. Only quit today. Never, ever break your promise you make today. Screw tomorrow until it is tomorrow.

In order to stay undefeated with the nic bitch, you can never look past the match you have today. If you don't win today, you will not be undefeated tomorrow. So focus and 100% of your quit is on today. Not on the future.

That philosophy has me still undefeated with the nic bitch.

Yeah you hear that tobacco industry, the score in 97 to 0 today. You're my bitch now! 'Finger' Nicotine, better to run and hide from me. You show up in my face and I will kill you! You temp any of my friends and I will cheer as they slice your throat and you bleed out. No Mercy for you. Run and hide, it would be better for you if you just die.
Heck yeah you taught me bro. Consider me your student happy to quit with you.
Nice work on the commute. Today was my first day getting home from the gym and not dropping one in the lip as I checked my email. Instead i got on the Live Chat link to help me pass through the trigger. Day 2 for me.. Let's do this.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: p23
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Mthomas3824
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Skoal
Wait what??? Cars can run without dip? No shit?  Who'd  a thunk it. I suppose you'll try to tell me that I could mow the lawn without one too.

One day at  time  grasshoppa, you got this
Yeah who would of thunk it! I can do this one day at a time!
'Sing and Drink'

I have a new quit buddy! You have it figured out already. Only quit today. Never, ever break your promise you make today. Screw tomorrow until it is tomorrow.

In order to stay undefeated with the nic bitch, you can never look past the match you have today. If you don't win today, you will not be undefeated tomorrow. So focus and 100% of your quit is on today. Not on the future.

That philosophy has me still undefeated with the nic bitch.

Yeah you hear that tobacco industry, the score in 97 to 0 today. You're my bitch now! 'Finger' Nicotine, better to run and hide from me. You show up in my face and I will kill you! You temp any of my friends and I will cheer as they slice your throat and you bleed out. No Mercy for you. Run and hide, it would be better for you if you just die.
Heck yeah you taught me bro. Consider me your student happy to quit with you.
Nice work on the commute. Today was my first day getting home from the gym and not dropping one in the lip as I checked my email. Instead i got on the Live Chat link to help me pass through the trigger. Day 2 for me.. Let's do this.
Hell yeah one day at a time we can do this! Stay strong brother!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: 30yraddict on June 18, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: bigbamadan on June 18, 2012, 11:23:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
Make an appointment tomorrow with your dentist. Get it checked out. Get some peace of mind. Odds are much more that it is something aside from cancer.

Early in my quit I was taking around 3 showers a day....it was one of the few things that would make me feel better. I remember one time that I was in basically the fetal position rocking on the floor of the shower....wondering how I was ever going to make it through this hell. I made it through and you will too.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: 30yraddict on June 18, 2012, 11:30:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: bigbamadan
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Make an appointment tomorrow with your dentist. Get it checked out. Get some peace of mind. Odds are much more that it is something aside from cancer.

Early in my quit I was taking around 3 showers a day....it was one of the few things that would make me feel better. I remember one time that I was in basically the fetal position rocking on the floor of the shower....wondering how I was ever going to make it through this hell. I made it through and you will too.
Sounds 100% like a panic attack to me. They SUCK. I know- I've been there.

I have had mouth sores, at various times in my quit... had that nagging thought in the back of my mind... worried about them... and guess what- they were all just part of the healing process my mouth was going through. It is VERY unlikely that it is cancer. Get it checked out- you'll see.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: bigbamadan on June 18, 2012, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Anxiety is a mighty funny thing, I know it all too well. I've been there many a time. Why's it got to be bad news?? Probably just that herpes of yours flaring up again :unsure:

Look if by the slim slim slim chance it is cancer...well then you need to get out ahead of it. Waiting does you no good...just will make you crazier.

Make an appointment. Get your wife to go with you. Find out what is going on.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Wt57 on June 18, 2012, 11:39:00 PM
Quote from: bigbamadan
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Anxiety is a mighty funny thing, I know it all too well. I've been there many a time. Why's it got to be bad news?? Probably just that herpes of yours flaring up again :unsure:

Look if by the slim slim slim chance it is cancer...well then you need to get out ahead of it. Waiting does you no good...just will make you crazier.

Make an appointment. Get your wife to go with you. Find out what is going on.
KJ settle down there us no need to freak out, it won't do one bit of good. Relax make an appointment with dentist or Dr tomorrow. Sounds like your having a panic attack. Sores are most likely nothing and will go away soon.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 18, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
Quote from: bigbamadan
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Anxiety is a mighty funny thing, I know it all too well. I've been there many a time. Why's it got to be bad news?? Probably just that herpes of yours flaring up again :unsure:

Look if by the slim slim slim chance it is cancer...well then you need to get out ahead of it. Waiting does you no good...just will make you crazier.

Make an appointment. Get your wife to go with you. Find out what is going on.
Yeah I know I need to go everything I read says anything that doesn't heal in 2 weeks should get checked. I still got to the end of the week. My brain is just totally mind fucking me right now!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: bigbamadan on June 18, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
come into chat now....
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Skoal Monster on June 18, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
Quote from: 30yrAddict
Quote from: Kjsylva82
I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
If your worried get it checked, it's worse wondering. Worst case you catch it early , best case you get a huge weight lifted. I'm not a doctor but from experience here , most shit that happens within the first two weeks is quit related. That being said , when in doubt don't hesitate to get checked, there's no waiting when it come to cancer. Hesitation kills.

As for the emotional melt down, it's totally normal. Nicotine screws with your bodys endorphins, your trying to adjust to not being poisoned. Just stay away from old episodes of golden girls, and Disney movies and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Roamcountry on June 18, 2012, 11:48:00 PM
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I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
I'm scared as shit of going to the doctor. It would be nice to have piece of mind but I don't think I can deal with the bad news right now. My heart is beating a million times a minute. Damn this sucks!
Anxiety is a mighty funny thing, I know it all too well. I've been there many a time. Why's it got to be bad news?? Probably just that herpes of yours flaring up again :unsure:

Look if by the slim slim slim chance it is cancer...well then you need to get out ahead of it. Waiting does you no good...just will make you crazier.

Make an appointment. Get your wife to go with you. Find out what is going on.
Totally been there dude, even at day 34 had large sore show up on upper gums, scarrry shit, but went away after a very long week, your mouth will got through a LOT of changes as you continue, its hard not to panic, but remember one thing, cancer does NOT just show up out of nowhere. It is a longer growth period with subtle changes at first. stay strong friend.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: raiderx on June 18, 2012, 11:55:00 PM
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I am not sure what is going on if it is the nic bitch screwing with me or what. I just broke down and started crying in the shower. It's been over a week and the sore in my mouth is still there. The voice in my head is telling me it is cancer. It can't be cancer I need to be here for my wife and kids. I am freaking out. How am I going to make it through tomorrow? Damit I feel like a big pussy. Cancer is some scary shit!
panic attacks are scary shit... and pretty common- especially when dealing with something as stressful as quitting dip. It may take more than one week for the sores to go away. Stop by the doctor to have it checked out- this will get you some peace of mind. Tell him/her about what's going on mentally... they might give you a script to help you cope while you get past the worst of this. At any rate- both the sores and the panic attacks will most likely pass quickly.
If your worried get it checked, it's worse wondering. Worst case you catch it early , best case you get a huge weight lifted. I'm not a doctor but from experience here , most shit that happens within the first two weeks is quit related. That being said , when in doubt don't hesitate to get checked, there's no waiting when it come to cancer. Hesitation kills.

As for the emotional melt down, it's totally normal. Nicotine screws with your bodys endorphins, your trying to adjust to not being poisoned. Just stay away from old episodes of golden girls, and Disney movies and you'll be fine.
I have been plagued with cold sores my entire life. Now I am not a doctor but the sore could be a canker sore. They cane be brought on by changes in ph balances, stress, low immune system or constipation. You are going through a tonne of sht riow and your body is adjusting. Ths is just another stage. But do get it checked out
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 19, 2012, 12:39:00 AM
Thanks to everyone who helped me get through this panic attack. I feel much better now. Still freaked out but I will give it a few more days . Friday will be about 2 weeks. If it is still there then I will be sure to get support from you guys and get it checked out.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 19, 2012, 10:28:00 AM
Okay today is a better day. My mind is much clearer today. I made it through another morning commute with no chew. I will not chew today! I can do this one day at a time and with all of your support.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: p23 on June 19, 2012, 10:41:00 AM
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Okay today is a better day. My mind is much clearer today. I made it through another morning commute with no chew. I will not chew today! I can do this one day at a time and with all of your support.
Take no prisoners! Own it!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 19, 2012, 02:26:00 PM
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Okay today is a better day. My mind is much clearer today. I made it through another morning commute with no chew. I will not chew today! I can do this one day at a time and with all of your support.
Take no prisoners! Own it!
Day 4. After today, the dependency on nicotine will be gone. Now get ready to rewire your brain. Even though you physically wont crave it. Your mind will feel out of service. Like writing with the other hand, simple functions and thoughts will be difficult.

Be prepared to still have habits calling you. Triggers are the things that will make you think about chewing. Part of rewiring is functioning without dip for things you always did with dip.

Example, the first time mowing my lawn. Major trigger to dip. (I always dipped when I mowed the lawn) Once I resisted the first time, mowing the lawn wasn't hard without dip.

My first road trip. Thought about dipping the whole time. Next road trip. I didn't miss it.

So you will have many triggers fire. Just know that once you over come the trigger, the power and grip tobacco has on you lessons. It takes some time but it will become easy one day.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 19, 2012, 06:49:00 PM
What a trip this whole detox thing is a freakin roller coaster ride! Yesterday I was tripping out today I feel on top of the world. I will keep on keepin on.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: ballplayer76 on June 19, 2012, 08:50:00 PM
Kj, I know what your going through. I freak out over any little sore/white spot in my mouth. I actually had a lump on my gums biopsied once. Longest 3 days of my life waiting for results. I had a herpes sore last a month and was back in the ENT's office for that. Go get it looked at if your scared. But always remember how scared you are right now. Write that shit down somewhere, and when that sore goes away and you think your ok to continue dipping, read it over and over again. Cuz if you go back to dipping, more sores will come, I promise. Remember the fear you have right now, and remember how hard it was to quit. And don't ever put yourself through it again. Stay strong my friend.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 19, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
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What a trip this whole detox thing is a freakin roller coaster ride! Yesterday I was tripping out today I feel on top of the world. I will keep on keepin on.
I'm with you on that! I feel like I am bipolar in my quit. You had a hell of a first three days. I am so glad to hear you have one day reprieve.

You deserve it. If you lived through the last three days, you are a fighter and can survive!

Keep your quit simple. Follow the plan. Post roll, live quit and only focus on your battle today. If you live another day, repeat.

You have many phases ahead of you and you may have a needed pause but trust me, you are still in hell. Today you have a glimps of where you are heading, but gear up for a fucking war. Just don't put any nicotine in your lip or your rectum. 'crackup'

It's a miserable walk, but you will find and discover that you are happy. Go figure? I am so pleased to be quit with you. You are inspiring.

To be effective, you have to quit because only you wanted to quit. Now that you quit, remember that you quit for all!

Your quit is for you, your loved ones, for us, for those who are still out of control and haven't quit, for that little 6th grader to learn from you and never start. You even stay quit for the tobacco industry and government. Your quit is a royal fuck you, you no longer get my money or collect taxes on me, you no longer have me. We are quit and we are free.

If you can't tell, you have strengthened my quit. We all get to celebrate freedom from vice.

You are a hero now. Keep that title and win each and every battle. I challenge you to protect your quit and stay undefeated with the nic bitch!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 20, 2012, 12:44:00 AM
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What a trip this whole detox thing is a freakin roller coaster ride! Yesterday I was tripping out today I feel on top of the world. I will keep on keepin on.
I'm with you on that! I feel like I am bipolar in my quit. You had a hell of a first three days. I am so glad to hear you have one day reprieve.

You deserve it. If you lived through the last three days, you are a fighter and can survive!

Keep your quit simple. Follow the plan. Post roll, live quit and only focus on your battle today. If you live another day, repeat.

You have many phases ahead of you and you may have a needed pause but trust me, you are still in hell. Today you have a glimps of where you are heading, but gear up for a fucking war. Just don't put any nicotine in your lip or your rectum. 'crackup'

It's a miserable walk, but you will find and discover that you are happy. Go figure? I am so pleased to be quit with you. You are inspiring.

To be effective, you have to quit because only you wanted to quit. Now that you quit, remember that you quit for all!

Your quit is for you, your loved ones, for us, for those who are still out of control and haven't quit, for that little 6th grader to learn from you and never start. You even stay quit for the tobacco industry and government. Your quit is a royal fuck you, you no longer get my money or collect taxes on me, you no longer have me. We are quit and we are free.

If you can't tell, you have strengthened my quit. We all get to celebrate freedom from vice.

You are a hero now. Keep that title and win each and every battle. I challenge you to protect your quit and stay undefeated with the nic bitch!
Yeah like I said what a trip. I come home everyday and look at my wife with more love. I come home everyday and look at my three daughters and tell myself I am gonna be the one to walk them down the isle. My damn fake chew still hasnt come yet so I guess tomorrow will be another day of seeds even though my mouth is freakin hurtin from all the salt. You know what though, I will just worry about that tomorrow. I had a good friend of mine call me today to tell me he had checked into a rehab program for his drinking so I told him about my quit. I promised him I will not let him drink and he promised not to let me chew. I want to thank all of you who have been checking up on me since day one I can not express how much it has helped me! Stay strong brothers one day at a time!!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Wt57 on June 20, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
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What a trip this whole detox thing is a freakin roller coaster ride! Yesterday I was tripping out today I feel on top of the world. I will keep on keepin on.
I'm with you on that! I feel like I am bipolar in my quit. You had a hell of a first three days. I am so glad to hear you have one day reprieve.

You deserve it. If you lived through the last three days, you are a fighter and can survive!

Keep your quit simple. Follow the plan. Post roll, live quit and only focus on your battle today. If you live another day, repeat.

You have many phases ahead of you and you may have a needed pause but trust me, you are still in hell. Today you have a glimps of where you are heading, but gear up for a fucking war. Just don't put any nicotine in your lip or your rectum. 'crackup'

It's a miserable walk, but you will find and discover that you are happy. Go figure? I am so pleased to be quit with you. You are inspiring.

To be effective, you have to quit because only you wanted to quit. Now that you quit, remember that you quit for all!

Your quit is for you, your loved ones, for us, for those who are still out of control and haven't quit, for that little 6th grader to learn from you and never start. You even stay quit for the tobacco industry and government. Your quit is a royal fuck you, you no longer get my money or collect taxes on me, you no longer have me. We are quit and we are free.

If you can't tell, you have strengthened my quit. We all get to celebrate freedom from vice.

You are a hero now. Keep that title and win each and every battle. I challenge you to protect your quit and stay undefeated with the nic bitch!
MT is a wise old owl!

A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird? 

When that dude speaks it is wisdom he notices things out there most of us miss. The only issue I have with him is the regular reference to anal addiction satisfaction and hurting innocent animals. I wouldn't trust him with little children if I had them.

KJ you will have more good days but you will have other bad days also, prepare for them NOW .
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 20, 2012, 01:08:00 AM
When the bad comes I will post and text just like the last time I know one of you will answer the call. I have never belonged to a group like this but from what I see it is the only way I will quit. I don't want to let any of you down. I mean yeah I want to do it but the nic bitch will whisper her sweet nothing's into my ear and I would be gone but not now bros before hos is what I was always taught!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 20, 2012, 12:12:00 PM
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The only issue I have with him is the regular reference to anal addiction satisfaction and hurting innocent animals.
I think there is some confusion here. Here is a presentation I did that should clear the matter up. http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/ ... us/1389922 (http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/brutus/1389922)

Rectum? Hell it damn near killed him! Ba da da pish
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 20, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Day 5 has been very weird for me. I am having trouble concentrating and staying focused here at work. I have not really had a real craving yet today but I just feel weird. Nonetheless I am remaining strong one day at a time . Stay strong brothers do not cave !!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: tinman on June 20, 2012, 01:14:00 PM
Hey - Newbie here too (Day 11)...In reading all your questions about sores - it made me think about another subject - receded gums - do they grow back or are they fucked too???

Thanks so much - I am proud to have Quit!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 20, 2012, 01:31:00 PM
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Day 5 has been very weird for me. I am having trouble concentrating and staying focused here at work. I have not really had a real craving yet today but I just feel weird. Nonetheless I am remaining strong one day at a time . Stay strong brothers do not cave !!!
yes!!!! You are a foggy SOB. I went into chat and explained on my day 5 and said the same thing. I couldn't focus just stared at my computer. I was depressed but talking in chat made me laugh and I also felt happy. Everyone cheered and pointed out that it is a phase in quit. Today is Wednesday and the fog last for a few days. Ride the wave. It is good that the weekend is coming up.

Just don't plan on really accomplishing much for about a week. I suspect your foggiest days will be during the weekend though. Anything that takes thought, will be more labored.

Imagine your mind as a runner. You are used to running on gravel with dip. Now that you're quit, you have to run on a wet muddy path until you get the the pavement. It is going to be harder for a moment but once you hit the pavement, running will be more effective and faster.

Stay the course and stay quit today. It is better and life's burdens are lighter being free from nicotine.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: p23 on June 20, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
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Day 5 has been very weird for me. I am having trouble concentrating and staying focused here at work. I have not really had a real craving yet today but I just feel weird. Nonetheless I am remaining strong one day at a time . Stay strong brothers do not cave !!!
Sup KJ, I'm in the fog with you. You're not alone.

Fight.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 20, 2012, 10:10:00 PM
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Day 5 has been very weird for me. I am having trouble concentrating and staying focused here at work. I have not really had a real craving yet today but I just feel weird. Nonetheless I am remaining strong one day at a time . Stay strong brothers do not cave !!!
Sup KJ, I'm in the fog with you. You're not alone.

Fight.
Yeah so I got home and my order of Hooch was waiting for me. I got the sampler pack. I first tried the spitfire flavor which burned the shiznat out of my mouth. I guess a healing mouth and Tabasco don't jive. Next I tried the classic flavor which is pretty good it is a little sweet like skoal straight. It packs wells and spits just like the real stuff. Well that is my 2 cents on the stuff do far if anyone cares. Oh by the way my sore is healing but is not all the way gone yet but I am relieved nonetheless !! Stay strong brothers!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 20, 2012, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: tinman
Hey - Newbie here too (Day 11)...In reading all your questions about sores - it made me think about another subject - receded gums - do they grow back or are they fucked too???

Thanks so much - I am proud to have Quit!!!
No they won't grow back . If it is bad enough you will have to get a gum graph. Some of the guys here have had to do it. Stay strong!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: bigbamadan on June 20, 2012, 10:38:00 PM
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Hey - Newbie here too (Day 11)...In reading all your questions about sores - it made me think about another subject - receded gums - do they grow back or are they fucked too???

Thanks so much - I am proud to have Quit!!!
No they won't grow back . If it is bad enough you will have to get a gum graph. Some of the guys here have had to do it. Stay strong!
On a somewhat related note...the longer you are quit, the bigger your balls get. stay quit fuckers and soon you'll be walkin around all saclicious and shit.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: bigbamadan on June 20, 2012, 10:40:00 PM
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Day 5 has been very weird for me. I am having trouble concentrating and staying focused here at work. I have not really had a real craving yet today but I just feel weird. Nonetheless I am remaining strong one day at a time . Stay strong brothers do not cave !!!
Sup KJ, I'm in the fog with you. You're not alone.

Fight.
Yeah so I got home and my order of Hooch was waiting for me. I got the sampler pack. I first tried the spitfire flavor which burned the shiznat out of my mouth. I guess a healing mouth and Tabasco don't jive. Next I tried the classic flavor which is pretty good it is a little sweet like skoal straight. It packs wells and spits just like the real stuff. Well that is my 2 cents on the stuff do far if anyone cares. Oh by the way my sore is healing but is not all the way gone yet but I am relieved nonetheless !! Stay strong brothers!
i loved the hooch. take the spitfire and mix it with the classic. i always dipped cope lc and found that combination to be somewhat close in taste. also was a big fan of the hooch wintergreen.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: rangy96 on June 21, 2012, 06:18:00 AM
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Oh by the way my sore is healing but is not all the way gone yet but I am relieved nonetheless !! Stay strong brothers!
that shit right there makes me happy.

well done bro. Never forget where you were 5 days ago. Ever.


As somebody famous once said......Never again for any reason.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 21, 2012, 07:00:00 PM
Making it through another day. Felt good was so busy at work today I did not even think about it. I tried hooch wintergreen on the way into work, it was not bad but I never was a wintergreen kind of guy. I am using the whiskey flavor right now I think it is my favorite so far. Stay strong brothers.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 22, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: shoogie on June 22, 2012, 06:22:00 PM
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Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Dont worry about the next 100 days, 50 days, 10 days, just worry about today. Get thru today everyday and you will be fine. Stay strong and stay quit.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Souliman on June 22, 2012, 08:13:00 PM
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Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Dont worry about the next 100 days, 50 days, 10 days, just worry about today. Get thru today everyday and you will be fine. Stay strong and stay quit.
Digging me some Shoogie advice.

One day at a time. That's all any of us addicts can handle. Control what you can control: today. That's it. Face tomorrow when its staring you in the mirror.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: mikegooch on June 22, 2012, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: tinman
Hey - Newbie here too (Day 11)...In reading all your questions about sores - it made me think about another subject - receded gums - do they grow back or are they fucked too???

Thanks so much - I am proud to have Quit!!!
No they won't grow back . If it is bad enough you will have to get a gum graph. Some of the guys here have had to do it. Stay strong!

I've had 5 gum grafts.. painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside  outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off  THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. you head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled  scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it)  my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tub.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. Never has a gum graft ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Greg5280 on June 23, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
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Quote from: Kjsylva82
Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Dont worry about the next 100 days, 50 days, 10 days, just worry about today. Get thru today everyday and you will be fine. Stay strong and stay quit.
Excellent advice right there! Just quit today!

Stay Quit
Greg
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Scowick65 on June 23, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: shoogie
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Dont worry about the next 100 days, 50 days, 10 days, just worry about today. Get thru today everyday and you will be fine. Stay strong and stay quit.
Excellent advice right there! Just quit today!

Stay Quit
Greg
You are doing great. I found reading helped me. Here is a good one. index.php?showtopic=4402 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4402)
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Souliman on June 23, 2012, 06:14:00 PM
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Quote from: Greg5280
Quote from: shoogie
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Well I am making it through day 7. I can't believe I have made it this far. I continue my quit day by day. This first week has definitely been up and down. I have had some really strong cravings today. Hooch has "snuffed" out these cravings so I am staying strong. After I reach 100 days I will have to try for 100 days of no Hooch lol, but at least I am not killing myself! Until next time stay strong brothers !!!
Dont worry about the next 100 days, 50 days, 10 days, just worry about today. Get thru today everyday and you will be fine. Stay strong and stay quit.
Excellent advice right there! Just quit today!

Stay Quit
Greg
You are doing great. I found reading helped me. Here is a good one. index.php?showtopic=4402 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4402)
The more you read the more you know, the more you protect your quit.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 24, 2012, 03:14:00 AM
Day 8 went pretty smooth. I went to a giants game. I saw quite a few guys dipping but It really did not bother me. Imagine that, a good time without a chew! Anyways that is my thoughts for day 8 stay strong brothers ! Oh and Sister!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kubrick on June 24, 2012, 09:36:00 AM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 8 went pretty smooth. I went to a giants game. I saw quite a few guys dipping but It really did not bother me. Imagine that, a good time without a chew! Anyways that is my thoughts for day 8 stay strong brothers ! Oh and Sister!
San Fran Giants?
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 24, 2012, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 8 went pretty smooth. I went to a giants game. I saw quite a few guys dipping but It really did not bother me. Imagine that, a good time without a chew! Anyways that is my thoughts for day 8 stay strong brothers ! Oh and Sister!
San Fran Giants?
Yeah the world champion San Francisco Giants.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Mthomas3824 on June 24, 2012, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Quote from: Kubrick
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 8 went pretty smooth. I went to a giants game. I saw quite a few guys dipping but It really did not bother me. Imagine that, a good time without a chew! Anyways that is my thoughts for day 8 stay strong brothers ! Oh and Sister!
San Fran Giants?
Yeah the world champion San Francisco Giants.
'clap' 'clap'

Imagine that...having fun and increasing you IQ!

You are the giant of quit. Thanks for the posting, it is good to hear that it is good to be quit today!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Greg5280 on June 24, 2012, 01:48:00 PM
You will be amazed at all the things that can actually be done without a dip in your lip.

Freedom is an amazing thing. Enjoy it !!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: CleanFuel on June 24, 2012, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: Greg5280
You will be amazed at all the things that can actually be done without a dip in your lip.

Freedom is an amazing thing. Enjoy it !!

STAY QUIT
Greg
eating pussy is one of my favorites.....
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 25, 2012, 02:09:00 AM
Day 9 went very well. I only had a few minor cravings. I woke up today and actually got to eat breakfast with my family. My old routine would be to dip ninja style in the shower while they were eating. I absolutely had to because we do not get back from church until 1:00 on Sundays do if I did not get my fix I would be on grumpy sob. It is nice to have the freedom and spend more time with them. I wish that I never had this problem I feel like I missed so much already I don't want to miss anymore. Stay strong and stick it to the Nic Bitch!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Wt57 on June 25, 2012, 02:26:00 AM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 9 went very well. I only had a few minor cravings. I woke up today and actually got to eat breakfast with my family. My old routine would be to dip ninja style in the shower while they were eating. I absolutely had to because we do not get back from church until 1:00 on Sundays do if I did not get my fix I would be on grumpy sob. It is nice to have the freedom and spend more time with them. I wish that I never had this problem I feel like I missed so much already I don't want to miss anymore. Stay strong and stick it to the Nic Bitch!!
Sounds just like my past Sundays. Shove as much in as possible so I could make it till I got Home. Isn't the freedom great!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 25, 2012, 07:24:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 9 went very well. I only had a few minor cravings. I woke up today and actually got to eat breakfast with my family. My old routine would be to dip ninja style in the shower while they were eating. I absolutely had to because we do not get back from church until 1:00 on Sundays do if I did not get my fix I would be on grumpy sob. It is nice to have the freedom and spend more time with them. I wish that I never had this problem I feel like I missed so much already I don't want to miss anymore. Stay strong and stick it to the Nic Bitch!!
Sounds just like my past Sundays. Shove as much in as possible so I could make it till I got Home. Isn't the freedom great!!
Sure is!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 25, 2012, 07:27:00 AM
Quote from: CleanFuel
Quote from: Greg5280
You will be amazed at all the things that can actually be done without a dip in your lip. 

Freedom is an amazing thing.  Enjoy it !!

STAY QUIT
Greg
eating pussy is one of my favorites.....
Does that taste like chicken? 'crackup'
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Stand W on June 25, 2012, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 9 went very well. I only had a few minor cravings. I woke up today and actually got to eat breakfast with my family. My old routine would be to dip ninja style in the shower while they were eating. I absolutely had to because we do not get back from church until 1:00 on Sundays do if I did not get my fix I would be on grumpy sob. It is nice to have the freedom and spend more time with them. I wish that I never had this problem I feel like I missed so much already I don't want to miss anymore. Stay strong and stick it to the Nic Bitch!!
Sounds just like my past Sundays. Shove as much in as possible so I could make it till I got Home. Isn't the freedom great!!
Sure is!!!

I can admit it here, but I have taken communion with a dip. If my addiction would take human form I would cut its throat.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Big Swede on June 25, 2012, 09:55:00 AM
I can admit it here, but I have taken communion with a dip. If my addiction would take human form I would cut its throat.

You are certainly not the only guy who used to sneak a dip during church. I always had a tin in the inside pocket of my sports jacket . . . if I didn't already have a dip in my mouth, I could slip off for a minute and pop one in.

The crazy thing about being quit - looking back on all those behaviors that seemed so "normal" when you were a user and finally seeing those behaviors for what they truly were . . . the insanity of addiction.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Greg5280 on June 25, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Quote from: Big
I can admit it here, but I have taken communion with a dip. If my addiction would take human form I would cut its throat.

You are certainly not the only guy who used to sneak a dip during church. I always had a tin in the inside pocket of my sports jacket . . . if I didn't already have a dip in my mouth, I could slip off for a minute and pop one in.

The crazy thing about being quit - looking back on all those behaviors that seemed so "normal" when you were a user and finally seeing those behaviors for what they truly were . . . the insanity of addiction.
We have all done crazy shit to get our fix. I have dipped anywhere you can imagine. Some of them still haunt me.

Now put that same focus and energy into your quit!!

STAY QUIT
Greg
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 26, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
Day 10 ... Wow I hit the double didgets today. I really did not have any cravings today that I can remember right now. Each day seems to get just a little bit easier. I only used Hooch twice today so even my use of the fake stuff is being cut back. I did try the mint hooch which is very damn similar to skoal mint for any of you ex mint dippers out there. Stay strong!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 27, 2012, 01:35:00 AM
Day 11- can't even remover having a craving today, I mean I know I must have had one but I just can't think of it as I reflect back on my day. My sore is getting smaller but I called kaiser and talked to an advice nurse. She recommended I use Peroxl mouthwash after every meal and see if that helps. I also did some research on the Internet and I have a condition call Tunis malabonditis or some shit like that. It is basically a non malignant growth on the bottom jaw that is prone to ulceration that takes a long time to heal due to the thin tissue that covers the growth does not contain enough blood vessels to quickly heal. Well stay strong out there!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: p23 on June 27, 2012, 02:34:00 AM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 11- can't even remover having a craving today, I mean I know I must have had one but I just can't think of it as I reflect back on my day. My sore is getting smaller but I called kaiser and talked to an advice nurse. She recommended I use Peroxl mouthwash after every meal and see if that helps. I also did some research on the Internet and I have a condition call Tunis malabonditis or some shit like that. It is basically a non malignant growth on the bottom jaw that is prone to ulceration that takes a long time to heal due to the thin tissue that covers the growth does not contain enough blood vessels to quickly heal. Well stay strong out there!!!
You had one and you owned it. No crave will get the best of us. It may keep us down for a few moments but we will power through.

You da man KJ!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Notdeadyet on June 27, 2012, 09:00:00 AM
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 11- can't even remover having a craving today, I mean I know I must have had one but I just can't think of it as I reflect back on my day. My sore is getting smaller but I called kaiser and talked to an advice nurse. She recommended I use Peroxl mouthwash after every meal and see if that helps. I also did some research on the Internet and I have a condition call Tunis malabonditis or some shit like that. It is basically a non malignant growth on the bottom jaw that is prone to ulceration that takes a long time to heal due to the thin tissue that covers the growth does not contain enough blood vessels to quickly heal. Well stay strong out there!!!
KJ, go to a doctor and get a real diagnosis. A buddy at work found a sore bump 2 years ago. Waited a long time to see a Doc. It was cancer. Got it removed and went through chemo and radiation. Declared cancer free a year later. Fast forward to last Friday - normal checkup found the cancer reappeared on his lungs and spine. He will now die.

Do more than just pray it ain't cancer.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 27, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: Notdeadyet
Quote from: Kjsylva82
Day 11- can't even remover having a craving today, I mean I know I must have had one but I just can't think of it as I reflect back on my day. My sore is getting smaller but I called kaiser and talked to an advice nurse. She recommended I use Peroxl mouthwash after every meal and see if that helps. I also did some research on the Internet and I have a condition call Tunis malabonditis or some shit like that. It is basically a non malignant growth on the bottom jaw that is prone to ulceration that takes a long time to heal due to the thin tissue that covers the growth does not contain enough blood vessels to quickly heal. Well stay strong out there!!!
KJ, go to a doctor and get a real diagnosis. A buddy at work found a sore bump 2 years ago. Waited a long time to see a Doc. It was cancer. Got it removed and went through chemo and radiation. Declared cancer free a year later. Fast forward to last Friday - normal checkup found the cancer reappeared on his lungs and spine. He will now die.

Do more than just pray it ain't cancer.
Wow that sucks I am sorry to hear that. I will make an appointment I am scared but it is better to be sure.
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 29, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Day 14 Finally got enough balls to make it to the doctor. I got a clean bill of health!!! I am so damn relived but here is some scary shit. My doc tells me cancer can appear up to 10 years after a person quits tobacco. Good info to know. He recommends screenings twice a year done at the time of dental cleaning. Stay strong!!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: shoogie on June 29, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
Thats great news!!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: Kjsylva82 on June 29, 2012, 06:40:00 PM
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Thats great news!!
Hell ya!! He said I could lose a few pounds though. I told him since I quit I snack constantly. He said that is normal but I need to cut back. So I guess the next step it my quit is to start exercising more and stop snacking. Anyways it is good news nonetheless !!
Title: Re: Scared as hell
Post by: CleanFuel on June 29, 2012, 07:38:00 PM
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Quote from: shoogie
Thats great news!!
Hell ya!! He said I could lose a few pounds though. I told him since I quit I snack constantly. He said that is normal but I need to cut back. So I guess the next step it my quit is to start exercising more and stop snacking. Anyways it is good news nonetheless !!
i have put on about 15 lbs....my goal is to get back after HOF

I laid out a pretty aggressive plan on like day 21 and decided to bail

so at HOF, I am dropping 20 pounds