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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Miami Dice on May 10, 2012, 11:19:00 AM
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Hey folks,
First time poster and I've read some of the information on this website, but plan on to dig deeper to learn more. I thought I would go ahead and introduce myself since I will hopefully be here more often than not.
My story is one of starting with cigarettes and then replacing it with dip:
I'm now 27 years old and I started smoking cigarettes around the age of 19. I had a few cigarettes/cans of chew in my high school years, but didn't start smoking on a consistent basis until I got into college. The stimulating properties of nicoteine boosted my focus and allowed me to study longer and harder while in school. I aced alll of my classes and graduated at the top of business school. I justified my habit with the successes I had in my studies and advancements in my career.
After graduation, I began the workforce in a professional context, where smoking was frowned upon. All of the young professionals in my age range who worked at the same company did not smoke. Smoking was limited to the few old geezers who made regular trips outside and were seen as non-productive. To circumvent this I began to start dipping. I began taking "restroom breaks (i.e. #2)" frequently so I could throw in a chew. The schedule was basically to dip on the way to work, "rest-room break" between start and lunch, dip after lunch, "rest-room break" midway to end of day, and dip to my heart's content after work was over. I traveled often with my job, and all of my work was international. I would load up on cans of grizzly before a 2-3 week trip to Beijing, Tokyo, Sao Paulo, wherever because you sure as heck couldn't find that stuff down there! All of my travel was with a team of between 3-4 other people, and I didn't want them to catch onto my consistent "rest-room breaks" so I would take nicoteine gum with me to help me get through the day until I could get to the hotel room and dip freely.
I hide my habit from ALMOST everybody. I never wanted to disappoint my family as they brought me up to not start smoking (even though my dad does in hiding as well) so I hid it from them. At this point, I'm sure they have caught on, but don't say anything to me about it. I never told co-workers because to me I would come off as ignorant...but I think some of them caught on as well. My close friends and drinking buddies knew, but I didn't mind as my relationship with them was more to socialize and have fun. I'm a single guy and live on my own now, so there are no wife/kids to speak of.
I spent most of my life in Tennessee where I went to school and began my professional career. About 7 months ago, I moved to Miami for a new job - same position, same travel, new location, higher pay. Dip is a lot harder to find here and is a lot more expensive. I usually chew grizzly because I honestly prefer it to the more expensive stuff....and, well, it is cheaper. I often find myself having to resort to purchasing skoal here as the Miami market (mostly Hispanic) does not consume dip/chewing tobacco as much. At many gas stations, you are limited to a few cans of skoal which are valued around 7-8 bucks a can. I go through a can a day on average.
For the past few months I have been trying patches. I would have a dip in the morning, wear the patch until work was over, then dip as much as I want after work.
Yesterday, I had a dip in the morning. Wore a patch until the end of the workday. Changed the patch for a new one and wore it all throughout the night.
Today I have not dipped. I am planning to wear the patch, switch it out with a new one at the end of the workday, and then wear it throughout the night.
I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
A couple of questions:
Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
Anyway, that's my story. Any advice or words of encouragement are appreciated. Sorry if I overdid the writing!
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Hey folks,
First time poster and I've read some of the information on this website, but plan on to dig deeper to learn more. I thought I would go ahead and introduce myself since I will hopefully be here more often than not.
My story is one of starting with cigarettes and then replacing it with dip:
I'm now 27 years old and I started smoking cigarettes around the age of 19. I had a few cigarettes/cans of chew in my high school years, but didn't start smoking on a consistent basis until I got into college. The stimulating properties of nicoteine boosted my focus and allowed me to study longer and harder while in school. I aced alll of my classes and graduated at the top of business school. I justified my habit with the successes I had in my studies and advancements in my career.
After graduation, I began the workforce in a professional context, where smoking was frowned upon. All of the young professionals in my age range who worked at the same company did not smoke. Smoking was limited to the few old geezers who made regular trips outside and were seen as non-productive. To circumvent this I began to start dipping. I began taking "restroom breaks (i.e. #2)" frequently so I could throw in a chew. The schedule was basically to dip on the way to work, "rest-room break" between start and lunch, dip after lunch, "rest-room break" midway to end of day, and dip to my heart's content after work was over. I traveled often with my job, and all of my work was international. I would load up on cans of grizzly before a 2-3 week trip to Beijing, Tokyo, Sao Paulo, wherever because you sure as heck couldn't find that stuff down there! All of my travel was with a team of between 3-4 other people, and I didn't want them to catch onto my consistent "rest-room breaks" so I would take nicoteine gum with me to help me get through the day until I could get to the hotel room and dip freely.
I hide my habit from ALMOST everybody. I never wanted to disappoint my family as they brought me up to not start smoking (even though my dad does in hiding as well) so I hid it from them. At this point, I'm sure they have caught on, but don't say anything to me about it. I never told co-workers because to me I would come off as ignorant...but I think some of them caught on as well. My close friends and drinking buddies knew, but I didn't mind as my relationship with them was more to socialize and have fun. I'm a single guy and live on my own now, so there are no wife/kids to speak of.
I spent most of my life in Tennessee where I went to school and began my professional career. About 7 months ago, I moved to Miami for a new job - same position, same travel, new location, higher pay. Dip is a lot harder to find here and is a lot more expensive. I usually chew grizzly because I honestly prefer it to the more expensive stuff....and, well, it is cheaper. I often find myself having to resort to purchasing skoal here as the Miami market (mostly Hispanic) does not consume dip/chewing tobacco as much. At many gas stations, you are limited to a few cans of skoal which are valued around 7-8 bucks a can. I go through a can a day on average.
For the past few months I have been trying patches. I would have a dip in the morning, wear the patch until work was over, then dip as much as I want after work.
Yesterday, I had a dip in the morning. Wore a patch until the end of the workday. Changed the patch for a new one and wore it all throughout the night.
Today I have not dipped. I am planning to wear the patch, switch it out with a new one at the end of the workday, and then wear it throughout the night.
I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
A couple of questions:
Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
Anyway, that's my story. Any advice or words of encouragement are appreciated. Sorry if I overdid the writing!
Miami Dice
Man I really hope you are ready to quit, however you gotta get rid of the Nic patches. This is a NO NIC site. Get you some fake snuff or seeds or gum, candy ,cat litter whatever. Just no nic at all. If you are truly ready to quit get ready for a rough week. I am not going to lie to you, it is going to suck but it is so worth it. Read everything on this site. If you are ready to quit I will help you in any way I can. PM me if you want. You can do this and this site will help.
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Dice, you sound like a very educated, smart guy who has had much success due to your abilities. The only thing is that you need to use all that knowledge and skillsets to realize that you are allowing the drug (nicotine) in tobacco to give you these lame excuses to continue limping along trying to quit. I believe you are much bigger than that and can take control of this Quit and own it. Quit using the patches or gum as crutches and earn this quit. Know that you "can" quit cold-turkey and just do it!
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Hey folks,
First time poster and I've read some of the information on this website, but plan on to dig deeper to learn more. I thought I would go ahead and introduce myself since I will hopefully be here more often than not.
My story is one of starting with cigarettes and then replacing it with dip:
I'm now 27 years old and I started smoking cigarettes around the age of 19. I had a few cigarettes/cans of chew in my high school years, but didn't start smoking on a consistent basis until I got into college. The stimulating properties of nicoteine boosted my focus and allowed me to study longer and harder while in school. I aced alll of my classes and graduated at the top of business school. I justified my habit with the successes I had in my studies and advancements in my career.
After graduation, I began the workforce in a professional context, where smoking was frowned upon. All of the young professionals in my age range who worked at the same company did not smoke. Smoking was limited to the few old geezers who made regular trips outside and were seen as non-productive. To circumvent this I began to start dipping. I began taking "restroom breaks (i.e. #2)" frequently so I could throw in a chew. The schedule was basically to dip on the way to work, "rest-room break" between start and lunch, dip after lunch, "rest-room break" midway to end of day, and dip to my heart's content after work was over. I traveled often with my job, and all of my work was international. I would load up on cans of grizzly before a 2-3 week trip to Beijing, Tokyo, Sao Paulo, wherever because you sure as heck couldn't find that stuff down there! All of my travel was with a team of between 3-4 other people, and I didn't want them to catch onto my consistent "rest-room breaks" so I would take nicoteine gum with me to help me get through the day until I could get to the hotel room and dip freely.
I hide my habit from ALMOST everybody. I never wanted to disappoint my family as they brought me up to not start smoking (even though my dad does in hiding as well) so I hid it from them. At this point, I'm sure they have caught on, but don't say anything to me about it. I never told co-workers because to me I would come off as ignorant...but I think some of them caught on as well. My close friends and drinking buddies knew, but I didn't mind as my relationship with them was more to socialize and have fun. I'm a single guy and live on my own now, so there are no wife/kids to speak of.
I spent most of my life in Tennessee where I went to school and began my professional career. About 7 months ago, I moved to Miami for a new job - same position, same travel, new location, higher pay. Dip is a lot harder to find here and is a lot more expensive. I usually chew grizzly because I honestly prefer it to the more expensive stuff....and, well, it is cheaper. I often find myself having to resort to purchasing skoal here as the Miami market (mostly Hispanic) does not consume dip/chewing tobacco as much. At many gas stations, you are limited to a few cans of skoal which are valued around 7-8 bucks a can. I go through a can a day on average.
For the past few months I have been trying patches. I would have a dip in the morning, wear the patch until work was over, then dip as much as I want after work.
Yesterday, I had a dip in the morning. Wore a patch until the end of the workday. Changed the patch for a new one and wore it all throughout the night.
Today I have not dipped. I am planning to wear the patch, switch it out with a new one at the end of the workday, and then wear it throughout the night.
I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
A couple of questions:
Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
Anyway, that's my story. Any advice or words of encouragement are appreciated. Sorry if I overdid the writing!
Hi Dice,
Just read your story. No it wasn't too long. It is so funny how it is the same story with different characters, locations and backdrops but it is the same story.
You are an addict. Have you quit yet? By quit I mean is it spit out, you have none of that crock of shit in a can anywhere. You flushed it. You have no patches, gum, cigars etc. You are nic free.
So are you quit?
Don't give me an lame ass excuse that you have set a date to quit or you are finishing your last can. The real statement that you want to do this is to bury that garbage in the toilet right now and never look back. Don't make a plan to quit.
Quit and then plan
So excuses are going through your head of why you can't do it right now. This site is good for you because we are just like you. So we know from experience that no excuse you have to postpone your quit, ever Trumps a reason to quit now!
Test it. I have an important presentation to give so I need it. vs This habit cost me 42k and the next dip could be the final blow to cancer.
Its simple, you could be laid up getting cancer treatments before your next presentation. The cost of the can adds up but quit you aren't pissing your money to evil terrorists. (Yes Tobacco is a terrorist organization that kills 3 million annually)
Dump the shit, make a promise by posting roll and start your journey to freedom right now!
Otherwise you are just feeling guilty about your addiction but its all talk. What are you going to do? You have to act now or your addiction will take an ever stronger hold on you. You're educated, you've shown you can walk. Do you have the wisdom, desire and guts to control this addiction?
I would like to see you post roll and make a promise. Good luck to you.
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The stimulating properties of nicoteine boosted my focus and allowed me to study longer and harder while in school.
Oh she's a tricky bitch. Nicotine did not stimulate your focus, it actually just placated your addiction - gave you your "fix" - so you could concentrate without going into withdrawals. You are just a drug addict and the only way to break the vicious cycle is to stop using the drug. No excuses. You are not a special butterfly. Everyone on here is a nicotine addict. We know how to lie and cheat and come up with excuses to make sure we get our nicotine fix.
Ban the shit from your body and you will be quit. Be willing to do whatever it takes now so you can live a much better life later.
After 38 years I did it 254 days ago. I love freedom!
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
Bullshit!
Do you think your life, your problems or your addiction to nicotine are worse or better than any of the thousands of quitters on this site that managed to quit cold turkey?
You're just making excuses to keep using the nicotine. Flush your chew, patches and nicotine gum and just quit. It will sucks huge ass the first 3-5 days, but I'll tell you this, it doesn't suck as bad as being a slave to a can of tobacco.
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
This is fear talking.
Many others with much tougher situations in life than you have quit cold turkey. I'm talking about quitting while relatives are dying or marriages are failing. Your moody colleagues don't hold a candle to that shit.
So get rid of the excuses, get rid of the patches, get rid of the nicotine gum, and man up.
You can do it. The thousands of pure quiters here are proof.
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MD
Unlike some of my brethren I am OK with the tapering off to an established quit date method. I would even encourage you to read everything on the site and ask questions...... HOWEVER..... once you make the committment to join (and I consider posting an intro a big part of that commitment, posting roll is the second big part) you need to be 100% QUIT.
So really the question is quit or not.
RaiderX 54 days
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
This is fear talking.
Many others with much tougher situations in life than you have quit cold turkey. I'm talking about quitting while relatives are dying or marriages are failing. Your moody colleagues don't hold a candle to that shit.
So get rid of the excuses, get rid of the patches, get rid of the nicotine gum, and man up.
You can do it. The thousands of pure quiters here are proof.
Oh man! This is the fun part.
Miami Dice, true quitters of tobacco stepped up and told you what you need to do. They drew a line in the sand. Join us and be free, or go to the nic bitch and remain shackled and bound to your nicotine addiction.
This isn't just talk, this is do it or don't. These men will walk through hell with you but they won't waste their time with a talker. You have to walk.
What's it going to be?
Oh shit this is fun to watch. Do you quit or do you not. Only you decide so I'm going to see what you do.
YOUR MOVE
This is like the matrixx. Red pill or Blue pill. No its better than the matirxx, this is for your life Dice. Its your time to divorce nicotine once and for all. Freedom or vice???
Good show. Can't wait to see how it turns out.... 'Popcorn'
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
Bullshit!
Do you think your life, your problems or your addiction to nicotine are worse or better than any of the thousands of quitters on this site that managed to quit cold turkey?
You're just making excuses to keep using the nicotine. Flush your chew, patches and nicotine gum and just quit. It will sucks huge ass the first 3-5 days, but I'll tell you this, it doesn't suck as bad as being a slave to a can of tobacco.
Both Kubrick and JJ are right on. You are an addict, your story is familiar to all of us. Now you have a choice: grow a pair, take charge of your addiction and take charge of your life, or keep making excuses why it is too hard to quit (for you, not everyone else) and continue allowing tobacco to run your life. Thousands have quit cold turkey here, many with far bigger obstacles in front of them than you have described.
I hope you come to the decision that you are ready to be quit. If you do you will find plenty of support here. PM me if you decide you want to be in charge of your life.
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
This is fear talking.
Many others with much tougher situations in life than you have quit cold turkey. I'm talking about quitting while relatives are dying or marriages are failing. Your moody colleagues don't hold a candle to that shit.
So get rid of the excuses, get rid of the patches, get rid of the nicotine gum, and man up.
You can do it. The thousands of pure quiters here are proof.
Oh man! This is the fun part.
Miami Dice, true quitters of tobacco stepped up and told you what you need to do. They drew a line in the sand. Join us and be free, or go to the nic bitch and remain shackled and bound to your nicotine addiction.
This isn't just talk, this is do it or don't. These men will walk through hell with you but they won't waste their time with a talker. You have to walk.
What's it going to be?
Oh shit this is fun to watch. Do you quit or do you not. Only you decide so I'm going to see what you do.
YOUR MOVE
This is like the matrixx. Red pill or Blue pill. No its better than the matirxx, this is for your life Dice. Its your time to divorce nicotine once and for all. Freedom or vice???
Good show. Can't wait to see how it turns out.... 'Popcorn'
Getting interesting.......
Will he .... man-up and toss the nicotene and become a bad ass quiter???????
Will he ..... continue to use nicotene and try to be the special butterfly .........
tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock
'Popcorn'
Tune in tomorrow 'Finger'
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I don't think I am capable of quitting cold turkey. I have to deal with a lot of personalities and a lot of moods in other people at work and I don't think a cold turkey quit would work for me.
This is fear talking.
Many others with much tougher situations in life than you have quit cold turkey. I'm talking about quitting while relatives are dying or marriages are failing. Your moody colleagues don't hold a candle to that shit.
So get rid of the excuses, get rid of the patches, get rid of the nicotine gum, and man up.
You can do it. The thousands of pure quiters here are proof.
Oh man! This is the fun part.
Miami Dice, true quitters of tobacco stepped up and told you what you need to do. They drew a line in the sand. Join us and be free, or go to the nic bitch and remain shackled and bound to your nicotine addiction.
This isn't just talk, this is do it or don't. These men will walk through hell with you but they won't waste their time with a talker. You have to walk.
What's it going to be?
Oh shit this is fun to watch. Do you quit or do you not. Only you decide so I'm going to see what you do.
YOUR MOVE
This is like the matrixx. Red pill or Blue pill. No its better than the matirxx, this is for your life Dice. Its your time to divorce nicotine once and for all. Freedom or vice???
Good show. Can't wait to see how it turns out.... 'Popcorn'
Getting interesting.......
Will he .... man-up and toss the nicotene and become a bad ass quiter???????
Will he ..... continue to use nicotene and try to be the special butterfly .........
tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock
'Popcorn'
Tune in tomorrow 'Finger'
Dice - not anything to add, but I thought I would answer your question.
Has anyone had success with patches?
Depends on your definition of success. If success is defined as being able to live without the Nic Bitch holding your scrotum, then the answer would be no. None of "us" have had success including you.
For the past few months I have been trying patches. I would have a dip in the morning, wear the patch until work was over, then dip as much as I want after work.
Successfully quitting involves ..... quitting.
You don't help alcoholics by giving them beer vs vodka.
You don't help heroine addicts by giving them oxycontin pills.
You don't help porn addicts by having them only look at AF and JCP catalogs.
You don't help nicotine addicts by giving them nicotine.
If your definition of success is to not dip for a while, then the NRT may help. My story involves 2 decades of nicotine and I used the lozenges and the patch. While on the patch, I went "cold turkey" and didn't lip. You do have some fucked up dreams (it says that on the box, as well as, not to use other forms of nicotine BTW). I stretched my "patch phase" from the recommended 12 weeks to 20 weeks, cause I "was really addicted". Tore my last patch off in January of 2011 after a dentist appointment. 2 days later i bought another can. 2 fucking days! I went right back to gagging em in 24/7 until I found KTC 118 days ago.
Miami, I hope this helps some. I think it is ok for you to post your "NRT quit plan" in your introduction thread. You can not use tobacco, and you are not free to post in any quit groups or wildcard sections, just your intro.
Vadge
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Hey Dice,
My deal was always I could never have just one. I can't tell you how many times I bought my "last can". Drinking the cold turkey koolaid was the only way for me. I'm 7 days in and if I can do it so can you. I spent 16 plus hours a day with one in my lip. Can't get any more addicted than me and again, if I can pull it off so can you.
There are a lot of great people here to help. Like one of my new brothers said to me: 'Do me a favor and take that can and flush it'. I stared at those words for an hour and I did it (plus threw all that bullshit gum out). I feel so good right now because of that one little symbolic act.
FM
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Hey Dice,
My deal was always I could never have just one. I can't tell you how many times I bought my "last can". Drinking the cold turkey koolaid was the only way for me. I'm 7 days in and if I can do it so can you. I spent 16 plus hours a day with one in my lip. Can't get any more addicted than me and again, if I can pull it off so can you.
There are a lot of great people here to help. Like one of my new brothers said to me: 'Do me a favor and take that can and flush it'. I stared at those words for an hour and I did it (plus threw all that bullshit gum out). I feel so good right now because of that one little symbolic act.
FM
And just think, that nicotine is out of your system now. The physical withdrawal symptoms are gone. No need to prolong it by "weaning" yourself off. Nicotine withdrawals aren't going to kill you. It aint heroin or alcohol where a graduated detox is needed.
It's certainly not easy to deal with cravings, but that's what this place is for. Accountability. The 3-4 days of suck are the easy part. The lifelong addiction to nicotine isn't easy, but it's so rewarding to not be a slave anymore.
Grats on your 7 days man, you quit like fuck!
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Thanks for the input guys. It seems like this a group I can really count on to keep me motivated when the time comes to quit nicotine altogether.
I know this NOT what you want to hear, but I am not mentally prepared to quit yet. I'm just not. If I do, I will fail.
As of today I have made a promise to myself to no longer dip or smoke, but I am going to begin with the patches. I want to take some time to really analyze my habits and work into the oral fixation replacement (seeds and gum). Today is the first day I haven't smoked or chewed in around 8 years. I would like to (aggressively) work my way down to only requiring the 7 mg patch a day, and if it is fine by the group here...use the support from the first day I no longer use the patch to get through the remaining 100 days.
I took a bike ride today and spent a lot of time thinking about how much of a slave I am to this addiction...and my attempts at hiding it make me feel awful inside. Not telling family, not telling co-workers, buying a coke bottle before a flight only so I can guzzle it half-way down and dip covertly on the plane...it's terrible. As I rode along I counted over a dozen people smoking and thought to myself the poor bastards are slaves just like me...but obey they obey their master like clockwork. I want to kill the Nic Bitch...I just feel the weening strategy is my best chance for success.
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Thanks for the input guys. It seems like this a group I can really count on to keep me motivated when the time comes to quit nicotine altogether.
I know this NOT what you want to hear, but I am not mentally prepared to quit yet. I'm just not. If I do, I will fail.
As of today I have made a promise to myself to no longer dip or smoke, but I am going to begin with the patches. I want to take some time to really analyze my habits and work into the oral fixation replacement (seeds and gum). Today is the first day I haven't smoked or chewed in around 8 years. I would like to (aggressively) work my way down to only requiring the 7 mg patch a day, and if it is fine by the group here...use the support from the first day I no longer use the patch to get through the remaining 100 days.
I took a bike ride today and spent a lot of time thinking about how much of a slave I am to this addiction...and my attempts at hiding it make me feel awful inside. Not telling family, not telling co-workers, buying a coke bottle before a flight only so I can guzzle it half-way down and dip covertly on the plane...it's terrible. As I rode along I counted over a dozen people smoking and thought to myself the poor bastards are slaves just like me...but obey they obey their master like clockwork. I want to kill the Nic Bitch...I just feel the weening strategy is my best chance for success.
I don't think anyone here was "mentaly prepared" to quit. It is scary to imagine life without nicotine. But you have to take the step. We have the tools here to help you quit.
Just consider this. The first three days without nicotine in your system suck. Your brain goes haywired trying to get used to life with out nic. You will go through this, there is no doubt. You can start the process today, or you can strech it out over weeks. But the day you stop using NRT, you will go through this same withdrawl.
Quit today and take control of your life. I guarentee you that you can do it.
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I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .
Good luck with your patches and gum ,
brainsore
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I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .
Good luck with your patches and gum ,
brainsore
My story and intentions are both genuine. In fact, I have never spelled it out in that way to anyone in my life. Attention is the last thing I want from this group. I posted because I want to free myself from nicotine. I specifically came to the introductions forum because, well, that seemed to be the most logical starting point in discussing my habit with a group of people who have decided to quit.
I'm not sure if I should be taking the slights at me as a psychological tool for motivation...
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I just stumbled into this intro thread and saw that you don't want to quit . I also see miami dice sitting either logged on or watching for updates . So , dice are you still around just for the attention ? You already told us to fuck off by not quitting so why are you still lurking ? I quit for me coming up on a year ago . I didn't write a full page look at me intro like you managed to do . I jumped right in . I say take your cute name along with the other fuck nut , bullshit artists who didn't get their quit off the ground . I saw many of them fall in my group alone I think 68 of them . Too bad for you and no dice here .     Â
       Good luck with your patches and gum ,
     brainsore
My story and intentions are both genuine. In fact, I have never spelled it out in that way to anyone in my life. Attention is the last thing I want from this group. I posted because I want to free myself from nicotine. I specifically came to the introductions forum because, well, that seemed to be the most logical starting point in discussing my habit with a group of people who have decided to quit.
I'm not sure if I should be taking the slights at me as a psychological tool for motivation...
Dice, you're not listening very well. You do not have a habit. Picking your nose is a habit. You are a fucking drug addict. You can only beat this by not using your drug. Go post roll call in the August group and promise not to use any form of nicotine for the rest of today. Keep your word. Wake up and promise again tomorrow. You will not fail if you post and keep your word.
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Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.
2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!
3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!
That is all.
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Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.
2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!
3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!
That is all.
Miami,
I get it, you are not ready to quit for you. Fair enough. There are two things that brought me to the point knowing that I wanted to quit for me.
1. I hated it. I really just got bored and tired of it.
2. Looking at this can and wondering why I still had to have one more when I didn't
Want it anymore. I couldn't turn away the seductive call but I hated it all the more.
Conclusion: Addiction. When you realize this simple thing, you are an addict, you will be humble, motivated and ready to be free.
I welcome you to linger on the site. It has helped me. I just ask one thing, never ever come to this site with any of the nicotine in, on or around you. Please.
This is my church or sanctuary of quit. Please respect that this place is a healing ground for me and my addiction and using nic while on this site is disrespectful. You can read and gain insight here. Just please show courtesy and respect and it will come back in kind.
I wish you luck and support, only you can quit for you. Once you cross that line and post roll, you will have great strength and support to succeed in freeing yourself from the shackles on you.
Thank you,
Mthomas3824
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Has anyone had success with patches? Any advice? I have found that the effectiveness wears off throughout the day (sweat maybe?) and changing the patch is the only thing that works for me. I am using the highest level right now, but would ideally like to slowly drop down. One thing I noticed last night was the vivid dreams I had throughout the night. I also tossed and turned all night long and woke up in the night in a trance a few times....
1. Patches don't work. They help with some of the physical withdrawels, but in the late teens, you won't know who the fuck you are or what the fuck you're doing. They are bullshit, and just another way for the tobacco companies to make money. Take the 40 bucks you spent on them and flush it. That's experience talking.
2. You're not used to having nicotine while you sleep, that's why you're so effed at night. Still think that shit is helpful or needed? IT'S SCREWING WITH YOU!
3. You need to quit something today. Nic, or this site. Cuz this place ain't for scardies. You got balls??? SHOW EM!
That is all.
Miami,
I get it, you are not ready to quit for you. Fair enough. There are two things that brought me to the point knowing that I wanted to quit for me.
1. I hated it. I really just got bored and tired of it.
2. Looking at this can and wondering why I still had to have one more when I didn't
Want it anymore. I couldn't turn away the seductive call but I hated it all the more.
Conclusion: Addiction. When you realize this simple thing, you are an addict, you will be humble, motivated and ready to be free.
I welcome you to linger on the site. It has helped me. I just ask one thing, never ever come to this site with any of the nicotine in, on or around you. Please.
This is my church or sanctuary of quit. Please respect that this place is a healing ground for me and my addiction and using nic while on this site is disrespectful. You can read and gain insight here. Just please show courtesy and respect and it will come back in kind.
I wish you luck and support, only you can quit for you. Once you cross that line and post roll, you will have great strength and support to succeed in freeing yourself from the shackles on you.
Thank you,
Mthomas3824
Miami I've tied everything!! KTC works I'm not sure why, but I feel my quit! May be it the KTC plan, maybe it's my time maybe it's a combination. All I do know is that I've had craving but I've had so much support here and could never let these faceless strangers down. That is really a messed up thought, sharing important life decisions with total strangers.
Hey don't put off untill tomorrow what you can do today!!
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Dice,
I work with my family. My father, mother, and wife. That's it. The 4 of us. I love all of them to death, but like a typical family things get contentious. Not just once a week or every now and then, but pretty much every day. I get irritated with my dad and his old school ways or my mother for not doing something the way I feel it should be done. There's also the times where they get pissy with each other and it drives me nuts.
My point is that I work in a high stress environment just like you do. When I found this site, I wasn't ready to quit either. I planned my quit, ordered some fake stuff off the web, and was going to quit when it arrived a few days later. But then it hit me....
I'm an addict. I didn't realize that I was. I knew I was addicted to nicotine and that I couldn't put it down, but I didn't put two and two together to realize I was an actual ADDICT. Sounded foreign to me because I thought of addicts and meth. Addicts and coke. Addicts and crack. Addicts and heroin. But you know what? It's addicts and nicotine just the same as the rest.
That pissed me off. I got mad. I didn't want to be an addict. I was willing to stop being an addict so bad that I didn't care what happened in my daily life. If my job sucked, so what? I wasn't going to continue to let my dipping crutch me through it. It wasn't worth it. My lips, tongue, gums, teeth, and life were worth more than the miniscule increase in stress i'd get from not dipping.
Turns out I can survive working with my family just fine. I don't need a dip to take the edge off to make it to 5pm. I'm sure you can too. GET IN HERE. TOSS YOUR CANS. OWN THE FACT THAT YOU ARE AN ADDICT. DEAL WITH YOUR LIFE WITHOUT NICOTINE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE A LIFE AT ALL.
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I second mthomas comments
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Dice, you are really using your supposed "intellect" to the max in order to buy a little more time with your addiction with nicotine. Using the terms "logical" and "analyze" in order to justify your weakness to quit is very lame. Be real logical and analytical and do some research on the effects of using this drug and then come to the only valid conclusion that you need to just "Quit"! Don't use any security blanket or binkies, just make the logical decision to leave it behind.
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Patches do not make quitting suck less.
Nicorette does not make quitting suck less.
Changing vehicles does not make quitting suck less.
All of these things merely prolonge that shitty feeling of quitting. Think about it. Would you like to be fucking miserable for a week and no longer physically dependent, or irratable, scared, foul tempered for months because you are feeding your addiction just enough to keep it alive?
Starve the bitch. Rip that bandaid off instead of slowing pulling it.
You'll thank us later.
We rip you because you're weak.
I'll make you a challenge. Rip off that patch, and don't put another one on today. Don't smoke, chew, or use nicotine in any way until tomorrow morning. Surely you can quit for less than 24 hours.