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Re: Techman123
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2010, 06:29:00 AM »
Congratulations!!!!
Well done my brother.

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2010, 04:21:00 PM »
Day 103-

I started just like a lot of people. Found a tin or was offered one. Saw others doing it, wanted to try it. Just started a few times here and there, when a friend had it.

I was in church camp the first time I had one… about half a can of Cope long cut above the rafters of a screened in cabin. We began to set up our sleeping bags/trunks/backpacks when it fell on the floor. One guy picked it up, not shortly after that we saw an adult coming and we quickly tossed it in the trash. He came in, caught a glance of it and pulled it out. “Who’s is this”, he said. Silence. Tossed it back to us and said, “Well, better not let it go to waste.”

The second time, at scout camp. An aggie teaching the merit badge with a fatty in the whole week. Last day put a Skoal Wintergreen can on the table and said, “Well, give it a try, don’t be scared.”

Until I was 18, I had only dipped a few handful of times. Heard of coaches going through 2 cans a day! I was going through a can every 2 to 3 weeks!

I began dipping after school marching band practice (obviously not playing my instrument, like I was supposed to). Even going out on dates with one in.

College. ThatÂ’s when it really started. It was not unusual, where I went, for guys to be dipping everywhere- class, library, parties, bars, and at home. It became joining in the crowd, and then, it was part of my persona.

We all know how dippers hang together. It was an automatic tie with someone else, a jumping off point, a comfort, and a friend I could take anywhere. I joined a social group at college, got a girlfriend and lived it up. She didnÂ’t like me dipping, but tolerated it. I was at about 2-3 cans a week (Cope LC).

We still were together when I started grad school. I told her I would quitÂ… it was becoming an inconvenience and getting in-between us. With the pressures of Graduate school, I still could not put down the can (about 3 cans a week, Cope LC)

Got married, still had it. First job, still had it. Laid off, still had it. Back to work, still had it. All those times, I said I would quit. I tried, but not hard enough. I lied about it and kept it hidden, but she would find out one way or another. I would disappoint her so many times; she finally said itÂ’s my problem, not hers. Back to 2 cans a week, Cope LC.

Our son was born, on my birthday, this year. Around the same time, my grandfather got seriously ill, but recovered (not tobacco related). There was stress, but I found that no dip would satisfy it like it used to. I would begin to have one almost every time I could get away with it. I knew I was already playing a dangerous game, but now it was getting in the way of family, work, and my happiness. I was going through about 1.5 cans a week, Cope LC.

For my sake, for my sonÂ’s, my wifeÂ’s, my career, and long term happiness, I had to quit. I was doing this for so many broken promises. For being dishonest. For those things that I did not do, because I wanted a dip. To clean up my act and not make any more excuses. I want to be able to share time with my family for as long as I can. I also donÂ’t want something like Cope to take away my family or my life.

I always had trouble trying to quit because no one knew what is was like to dip or quit dip. Everyone I knew either didnÂ’t do it, or still did. They were all talking about how they quit smoking or would end up not being supportive (even though they were trying to).

I started using Chantix, from a previous quit attempt, to help get this kicked off. Shortly after, I found “Kill the Can”. I could not believe that there were this many people that have openly quit dipping, and support each other! They do not know each other, but share the weight. The stories are all too common. Many of the experiences, from the first pinch to the “funk” to reaching HOF are the same. Here is a group that will hold me accountable to myself and to each other.

The Chantix helped me get through the first few weeks. I stopped the Chantix after that and held strong. I finally told my wife, I was quit, for good. I expected her to be upset, because she thought I had already quit, but she was not. She looked in my eyes and said she supported me all the way. She was proud of my actions now, not of failures in the past.

I have not used any tobacco for 103 days. It feels good. I still think about it occasionally, but nothing much more than a passing glance. I feel like I am not a slave to that stuff. I have peace of mind. I am not dishonest or a liar. I was able to reach the HOF, with the help of my Quit group, the October “COCKS” 2010. Whenever the thought of caving comes though my mind, I think about all those reasons I prayed I could quit and for God to help me.

He did.

I must always guard myself from failureÂ… will I bring the fake stuff hunting? I think so, never used it, but just incase I am temped by others that will be there. It will always be a struggle, but it gets easier. I pray that I think clearly, I remember this day, and the 103 days before.

ThatÂ’s it for nowÂ… stay quit.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2010, 04:00:00 PM »
day two- no chew.

I have been taking Chantix. As I said, I'm open to opinions, but I think I will continue to use Chantix unless it has an adverse effect.

This forum is AWESOME and provides so much support, it's really amazing that something like this is even out there, free of charge, with people who care.

I will be posting roll.


As to the previous attempt (nearly a year ago), I bought the Chantix (approx. $100) and used one pill out of it. I didn't take it seriously. I did not take the Chantix. I did not throw away the can. I did not end up quitting. I gave up on the "quitting attempt" not long after I started it.

I still have the Chantix and spent $100 on it, so I'm giving it a shot to try to help my progress to continue to kick the can.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2010, 03:28:00 PM »
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I used one pill out of the whole month long pack of Chantix last time... really didn't even have a plan, just thought, "well, this pill says it can work and I can take up to a week to put down the can"  I didn't put the can down on my previous attempt.

This time I did.  Day 2.  Still using the Chantix, I think it's taken the "edge" off a little. 

All good points below, I tend to agree, but had no adverse effects as of yet, so I think I'll continue with it.

Still, open to all opinions.  As long as I am still sticking it to the can, then it's all right with me.
I took it for a little while, stomach felt horrible so I stopped taking it. It was costing about $150 a month to make me feel like crap. It takes the edge off the same way as changing your routine. What Chantix also claims is support makes it better than anything else. Compare that to the support you get here (free of charge) and then decide which is better. Go get gum, seeds, straws, coffee stirrers, whatever WORKS FOR YOU and get this done. I hated Chantix and would not recomend it to anyone here. There are some people who have been quit for a long time and I would take their advice before I would take it from a drug that was not tested for anything but smoking. If you want a support phone call everyday, give me your number and I will call you. Just make damn sure you haven't put that shit in your mouth.
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It works by blocking Nicotinic receptors gradually before you stop putting the fucking poison in your body.
Gotta be more than that right? and your not chewing now I hope?

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Re: Techman123
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 03:16:00 PM »
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I used one pill out of the whole month long pack of Chantix last time... really didn't even have a plan, just thought, "well, this pill says it can work and I can take up to a week to put down the can" I didn't put the can down on my previous attempt.

This time I did. Day 2. Still using the Chantix, I think it's taken the "edge" off a little.

All good points below, I tend to agree, but had no adverse effects as of yet, so I think I'll continue with it.

Still, open to all opinions. As long as I am still sticking it to the can, then it's all right with me.
I took it for a little while, stomach felt horrible so I stopped taking it. It was costing about $150 a month to make me feel like crap. It takes the edge off the same way as changing your routine. What Chantix also claims is support makes it better than anything else. Compare that to the support you get here (free of charge) and then decide which is better. Go get gum, seeds, straws, coffee stirrers, whatever WORKS FOR YOU and get this done. I hated Chantix and would not recomend it to anyone here. There are some people who have been quit for a long time and I would take their advice before I would take it from a drug that was not tested for anything but smoking. If you want a support phone call everyday, give me your number and I will call you. Just make damn sure you haven't put that shit in your mouth.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2010, 03:01:00 PM »
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I used one pill out of the whole month long pack of Chantix last time... really didn't even have a plan, just thought, "well, this pill says it can work and I can take up to a week to put down the can" I didn't put the can down on my previous attempt.

This time I did. Day 2. Still using the Chantix, I think it's taken the "edge" off a little.

All good points below, I tend to agree, but had no adverse effects as of yet, so I think I'll continue with it.

Still, open to all opinions. As long as I am still sticking it to the can, then it's all right with me.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 02:55:00 PM »
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I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
My .02 on Chantix. I give anesthesia for a living, so I know a little bit about pharmacology and physiology. I am also taking Chantix. I am not big into using medicine to fix everything wrong in your life, and I concede that a whole butt load (that's a lot!) of you guys succeeded by going cold turkey. However, I have tried to quit this nasty, disgusting, communistic, gay, disease producing, stupid (you get my point) ADDICTION before. I actually was free for 6 months once before I threw it away. This is my final quit - it is "the one" and I want to make it as smooth as possible. Yes Chantix has side-effects, it's not for everyone (it's also expensive, but not as expensive as equal quantities of chew). It works by blocking Nicotinic receptors gradually before you stop putting the fucking poison in your body. Yep a lot of the side-effects are the same as "just quitting w/o the drug". The incidence of uncontrollable rage and suicide attempts raises alarm, but we're dealing with a strong physical and psychological dependence - so I am not that surprised that some people feeling like killing some stupid fuck - or themselves (same difference). I (as of this post) have only been quit for 3 days, so I am definitely not going to tell dudes that have been quit for years what to think. It is tough to compare it to my longest previous quit because I wasn't using this site! I feel like it lessened the worst symptoms of withdrawal, but that's me. I am also 100% committed to quitting this shit for good, and I HAVE AN OUTSTANDING SUPPORT GROUP HERE! So Techman - whatever it takes - no nic!
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 09:53:00 AM »
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I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
Here's a couple of posts from the KTC blog that may shed some light for you...

http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=150
http://blog.killthecan.org/?p=264
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2010, 08:25:00 AM »
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I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
So it didn't work last time? Why not try something new, cold turkey + use this site as directed?

I'm not saying chantix does or doesn't help people, but I know that it does have some potentially dangerous downsides. I also know cold turkey does work. Not saying its easy, but its definitely doable. Just gotta man up for awhile.
Thats about the extent of it. Dig down deep, nut up, and quit. Thats what every vet here has done. Toss the chantix, its unproven at best, no need to use an unproven method since you want this quit to be permanent. Use the tools on this site to make it through the hard times. PS-It will be hard at times.
I haven't taken the time to relook it up, I am not a doctor, but I did sleep at home next to a hot woman last night......

Anyway, from what I remember, many of the side effects of Chantix are similar to side effects that I experienced quitting cold turkey. I don't know if that is a coincidence, but from a common sense point of view, why risk adding complications from something you don't really need?

This is just my personal point of view, you can do this without any precription quit aids. There are many guys around there that tossed the Chantix as well do to the side effect. Maybe some of those guys could ring in.

Quitting isn't easy, there is no magic pill.

And I forgive you for being an architect..... :)

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Re: Techman123
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 08:13:00 PM »
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I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
So it didn't work last time? Why not try something new, cold turkey + use this site as directed?

I'm not saying chantix does or doesn't help people, but I know that it does have some potentially dangerous downsides. I also know cold turkey does work. Not saying its easy, but its definitely doable. Just gotta man up for awhile.
Thats about the extent of it. Dig down deep, nut up, and quit. Thats what every vet here has done. Toss the chantix, its unproven at best, no need to use an unproven method since you want this quit to be permanent. Use the tools on this site to make it through the hard times. PS-It will be hard at times.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 07:55:00 PM »
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I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
So it didn't work last time? Why not try something new, cold turkey + use this site as directed?

I'm not saying chantix does or doesn't help people, but I know that it does have some potentially dangerous downsides. I also know cold turkey does work. Not saying its easy, but its definitely doable. Just gotta man up for awhile.
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Re: Techman123
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 04:59:00 PM »
Chantex fucked up a dude real bad from the May 2010 group, Goochy. Cold turkey, lots of water, juice, sex...is the only way to go around here.

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Re: Techman123
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 04:55:00 PM »
Welcome Techman. We got threads here for all those interests and more.....distractions are a very good thing. I suggest you spend some time this weekend reading the site, there is a ton of good information here.

Congrats on your decision.

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Re: Techman123
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 04:41:00 PM »
Welcome.

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« on: July 01, 2010, 04:40:00 PM »
A little about myself, IÂ’m about 30 years old, live in Texas, and enjoy sports, hunting, college football, guns, history, outdoors, and reading. IÂ’m also an architect in the DFW area. I have a wife and a newborn son.

This is my first full day without Cope longcut. Been about a can every two- three days for the last 10 years.

So I decided to quit. Tired of hiding it to my wife, family, and friends. DonÂ’t want my newborn boy to take up the bad habit. I want to be there for him. DonÂ’t want to worry about cancer or be paranoid about every little thing at the dentist. Time to step up to the plate and do it for real.

I am using Chantix from a previous attemptÂ… anyone had success or problems with it?
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