Preparing for quit

[Bluetiereign]

..On that note. Despite the taunting .. I am actually going to be moving on again. I really don't have the time that I've spent here the last couple of days. I have taken the time from my family, work and my forums - to answer your questions - so that I may have MY introduction thread back. Obviously, for whatever reason(s) you don't feel that I should be allowed to have it back, you keep picking a fight.

I didn't go trashing your introduction pages with posts about what a POS any of you were. I stayed in my own thread. I didn't go anywhere to 'get noticed'. I simply posted a question (this is a forum). Chewie explained and answered it. I said thank you, explained why I didn't come around much and that WAS the end of it.

The rest... was provided by people who think differently than I do about things - and have proven my point about why I avoid posting here. It is very simple. I'm not the one complicating it. There is nothing more to 'figure out'. The bottom line is that you have managed to trash my introduction page. You've been very supportive (of each other), but I can't say I really appreciate it.

I'll be sure to remember it and not do it to anyone myself. Especially if they kept their word and stay quit - and then have the audacity to return to publicly acknowledge where they came from - and say thanks.

Stay quit. It is a good thing to be quit.

[larrymc911]

NowItsTime,

Not at all.  I prefaced that with 'As is evidenced here, to some... quitting must be a real bear. However, I don't think it is true for everyone.'

You do not see me telling anyone it is going to be easy.  However, I went into this thinking I was going to be going around like a raging bull for months - getting depressed/feeling better/getting bummed/feeling better - and my life would COMPLETELY change.

None of that happened.  My life is still the same chaotic mess that a busy schedule with children hands you.  Only now, I'm not handling it with a nic haze. 

I'm not the only one like this.  I have spoken to many who looked at me like I was crazy when I said I joined a site like this.  They would look at me and say " Hell, I just put it down (x) years ago and never turned back."  Yeah, well... I had tried before, failed... and was going to succeed.  I stacked the cards in my favor, did some research and joined this site ----- knowing I would face the full wrath (just like anyone else here) if I caved.

I've had my differences with people and their rage -- but I stayed quit.  I've done the ONE THING this site requires for us to do... and I still catch grief for it.  I don't think this site is about your post count.  To me, and some others... it is about owning up to having a habit that can killl you and keeping your word to your brothers to stay quit. 

I have feelings just like the rest of the men here - they just aren't bouts of rage with moments of elation.  I am not oblivious to your pain.  I had a taste of it when I attempted to quit at age 30 or so...  I just never experienced it this time.  Was it because I have a pretty good life anyway and nothing to antagonize me ?  Could it be that it was because I quit after 40 ?  It might be, because I do have a good life and was 45 when I quit.  But I don't think I should apologize for any of that any more than I should apologize for not going through everything that everyone else has.

So, the long and short of it is this.  You may have to stay here to hash out what is going through your head with the quit.  Some people may not.  I think it is very important that people need now that --- it could go either way --- but don't forget who was here in case you needed them.  I may not have been here.  But I didn't forget either.

Stay quit bro'.  It is good to be quit.


Edited to add:

I had also considered that - for me - if I kept this on my mind all of the time, it would be a self-perpetuating cycle.  When I left the nic behind - and didn't visit here every day - it did become more of a memory than a current event.  Hopefully, everyone here will have nic as only a memory.  Good luck bro'.

Quit and Stay Quit

LOL just to play devil's advocate for a sec....did your life just get a whole lot less busy in the last 2-3 days??? How difficult has it been to interrupt your presidential-like business to argue with strangers? Haha

On the other hand, nice to have you back..seems like you have some good support to throw out to newbs...so stick around

Hey ScubaSteve, I see you are finally figuring this guy out. He has now taken time out of his very busy schedule to banter with us little people after a year of obscurity. He certainly has been noticed though....and I believe that was his goal in the first place. But you know what? Most of us shit bigger than him. Have a nice day Bluetiereign.

[ScubaSteve]

NowItsTime,

Not at all. I prefaced that with 'As is evidenced here, to some... quitting must be a real bear. However, I don't think it is true for everyone.'

You do not see me telling anyone it is going to be easy. However, I went into this thinking I was going to be going around like a raging bull for months - getting depressed/feeling better/getting bummed/feeling better - and my life would COMPLETELY change.

None of that happened. My life is still the same chaotic mess that a busy schedule with children hands you. Only now, I'm not handling it with a nic haze.

I'm not the only one like this. I have spoken to many who looked at me like I was crazy when I said I joined a site like this. They would look at me and say " Hell, I just put it down (x) years ago and never turned back." Yeah, well... I had tried before, failed... and was going to succeed. I stacked the cards in my favor, did some research and joined this site ----- knowing I would face the full wrath (just like anyone else here) if I caved.

I've had my differences with people and their rage -- but I stayed quit. I've done the ONE THING this site requires for us to do... and I still catch grief for it. I don't think this site is about your post count. To me, and some others... it is about owning up to having a habit that can killl you and keeping your word to your brothers to stay quit.

I have feelings just like the rest of the men here - they just aren't bouts of rage with moments of elation. I am not oblivious to your pain. I had a taste of it when I attempted to quit at age 30 or so... I just never experienced it this time. Was it because I have a pretty good life anyway and nothing to antagonize me ? Could it be that it was because I quit after 40 ? It might be, because I do have a good life and was 45 when I quit. But I don't think I should apologize for any of that any more than I should apologize for not going through everything that everyone else has.

So, the long and short of it is this. You may have to stay here to hash out what is going through your head with the quit. Some people may not. I think it is very important that people need now that --- it could go either way --- but don't forget who was here in case you needed them. I may not have been here. But I didn't forget either.

Stay quit bro'. It is good to be quit.


Edited to add:

I had also considered that - for me - if I kept this on my mind all of the time, it would be a self-perpetuating cycle. When I left the nic behind - and didn't visit here every day - it did become more of a memory than a current event. Hopefully, everyone here will have nic as only a memory. Good luck bro'.

Quit and Stay Quit

LOL just to play devil's advocate for a sec....did your life just get a whole lot less busy in the last 2-3 days??? How difficult has it been to interrupt your presidential-like business to argue with strangers? Haha

On the other hand, nice to have you back..seems like you have some good support to throw out to newbs...so stick around

[Bluetiereign]

NowItsTime,

Not at all. I prefaced that with 'As is evidenced here, to some... quitting must be a real bear. However, I don't think it is true for everyone.'

You do not see me telling anyone it is going to be easy. However, I went into this thinking I was going to be going around like a raging bull for months - getting depressed/feeling better/getting bummed/feeling better - and my life would COMPLETELY change.

None of that happened. My life is still the same chaotic mess that a busy schedule with children hands you. Only now, I'm not handling it with a nic haze.

I'm not the only one like this. I have spoken to many who looked at me like I was crazy when I said I joined a site like this. They would look at me and say " Hell, I just put it down (x) years ago and never turned back." Yeah, well... I had tried before, failed... and was going to succeed. I stacked the cards in my favor, did some research and joined this site ----- knowing I would face the full wrath (just like anyone else here) if I caved.

I've had my differences with people and their rage -- but I stayed quit. I've done the ONE THING this site requires for us to do... and I still catch grief for it. I don't think this site is about your post count. To me, and some others... it is about owning up to having a habit that can killl you and keeping your word to your brothers to stay quit.

I have feelings just like the rest of the men here - they just aren't bouts of rage with moments of elation. I am not oblivious to your pain. I had a taste of it when I attempted to quit at age 30 or so... I just never experienced it this time. Was it because I have a pretty good life anyway and nothing to antagonize me ? Could it be that it was because I quit after 40 ? It might be, because I do have a good life and was 45 when I quit. But I don't think I should apologize for any of that any more than I should apologize for not going through everything that everyone else has.

So, the long and short of it is this. You may have to stay here to hash out what is going through your head with the quit. Some people may not. I think it is very important that people need now that --- it could go either way --- but don't forget who was here in case you needed them. I may not have been here. But I didn't forget either.

Stay quit bro'. It is good to be quit.


Edited to add:

I had also considered that - for me - if I kept this on my mind all of the time, it would be a self-perpetuating cycle. When I left the nic behind - and didn't visit here every day - it did become more of a memory than a current event. Hopefully, everyone here will have nic as only a memory. Good luck bro'.

Quit and Stay Quit

[NowItsTime]

Maybe it is not such a bad thing for people to realize that they MAY NOT have to go through all of the hell that some rant and rave over in here. Maybe it is not such a bad thing for them to hope that many of the things they fear - may never come to pass.

I've been around here for a little while. I am as active as I need to be to stay quit, THIS TIME AROUND. I respect that you have quit without having to lean on this site, but I'm not too crazy about this comment. You are trivializing what most of us have to go through to quit this addiction. I need an 'end of the world' fucking attitude because otherwise, I'd be dipping right now. Guaranteed.

[GlennFtheKodiak]

Anyway Dean, I hope that answered your question. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

Hate me if you want fuckface, but you've upped your post total by about 12% in a day, and even offered to help someone.

Sigh, mission accomplished. Again.

God, I am good.

[jaydisco]

I call her Candice.

[ScubaSteve]

6 more posts to 100...you're almost there!

gawd I love that avitar

[jaydisco]

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[Bluetiereign]

Anyway Dean, I hope that answered your question. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

[jaydisco]

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[Bluetiereign]

Dean,

To answer your first question - my quit was boring and uneventful after the nightmares. At 20 days... I was simply at 20 days - wishing I had 100 days behind me. I honestly felt nothing after the first 3 days.

People talked about hitting some kind of period where you get the ho-hums or something - and all kinds of other stuff, but I never ran into them. Again, I don't see the big deal about it. I felt no rage. I felt nothing worth noting.

As is evidenced here, to some... quitting must be a real bear. However, I don't think it is true for everyone. I had read what to expect, but only about 3% of that happened. To be completely honest - that first full night of nightmares was worse than I had expected - and hence my thoughts about using the gum or patch.

Otherwise, as I posted earlier in this thread, I did start to notice my blood pressure dropping. It was not a billion over a million... so it was really only numbers I noticed.

One more thing Dean. I get a retina scan/blood vessel check annually. Not sure if it was the quitting - but the damage noted to my blood vessels the previous 2 years has healed itself. I can't prove it, but I'm positive that the absence of nicotine (and other chemicals in dip) provided my body the chance it needed to heal itself. This was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise.

So, to answer your second post... I guess I would say... I might be useless to you Dean, if your ride has been rough. However, I am convinced from other conversations I've had that not everyone will have such an unpleasant experience with dipping and quitting. Maybe it is not such a bad thing for people to realize that they MAY NOT have to go through all of the hell that some rant and rave over in here. Maybe it is not such a bad thing for them to hope that many of the things they fear - may never come to pass.

Then again, maybe not.

Stay quit. It is a good thing to stay quit.

[DeanTheCoot]

where do you get off acting like you deserve anything form this community when you have done nothing to support it?

Justin, Glenn...

You know me. I go NUTS. But I think this gentleman might merely *represent* the things that, as early quitters and KTC advocates, we despise. Why do I say this?

First, this thread is, after all, Bluetiereign's "Introductions" page. If he wanted to relish his name followed by "One Year" on the home page, this thread was as good a place as any to make the inquiry.

Second of all, while I can't picture myself receding from this site any time soon, I definitely, definitely want to be in a place where I don't NEED it to stay quit. Therefore, I can see how anyone - especially someone not as vocal as I am - could disappear once his quit became manageable.

However, I do agree that Bluetiereign probably would have been the kind of KTCer I deemed useless: 84 posts in a year? That isn't even enough to cover a post per day (to 100) for the HOF.

[GlennFtheKodiak]

I don't know why my name is not showing as a year quit on Forthcoming Calendar Events within the next 7 days - my quit date was the 17th of July 2008 - and I was actually looking forward to dropping in and seeing that milestone posted.

Either way,  I'm still quit.  Overall, it has been worth it.  So...

Quit and Stay Quit.

doesn't sound like you moved on.

my question to you:

How is it that chewie or any of the other admins or quit brothers owe you the recognition of posting your anniversary date when you haven't stopped by to show recognition to them for their milestones?

I get that you are the best quitter there has ever been and that noone can come close to matching your accomplishments (i mean you work, and have a family...how do you do it?).

But again I ask you where do you get off acting like you deserve anything form this community when you have done nothing to support it?

clown.

hence, "self-loathing".

but hey, Justin, that might just be "worthless drivel".

or wait, is it whining? not sure, perhaps he can give us the EXACT definition, he's so good at that.

i'm really quite shocked some of these guys like theo and scuba fell for this. I exonerate Chewie cause he is Switzerland.

i am though happy to amuse, Steve. That's my job! 'winker'

[jaydisco]

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