My Story

[Skidwilly]

I can see that parallel. In some respects it may be the nicotine causing all the side effects. Also the driving voice of addiction can say anything to make certain you keep it flowing. The Up and downs of nicotine

[cghbuilder86]

Dip driving down the quality of life/causing depression.
Has anyone else wondered if using tobacco was lowering your quality of life, causing depression, making you feel lazy or worthless? IÂ’m not referring to feeling this way just during quit or withdrawls, I mean for the entire time you were on tobacco.
I remember some years back up until about age 25 I had never drank alcohol or used tobacco. I started occasionally dipping after starting drinking a little. It was just something new and exciting to do on the weekends. I have never developed any kind of drinking problem but sometime after being addicted to dipping I was noticing a different quality of life. The best way I know how to describe it is that I used to always be in a generally good positive mood, I was always busy with projects, hobbies, or work. Whenever I was resting or watching tv or something I felt fully at peace and like nothing was missing. In the last few years I have found myself feeling a little depressed. Being much lazier. Basically like my favorite thing to do was sit and watch tv, or listen to music while drinking and or dipping. And after that dip I just needed to kill time until I could feel the effects of putting in another one. Even when dipping all the time I always felt like something was missing or I needed to drink, spit, or smoke something to give me that buzz. I havenÂ’t really gotten a (buzz) from dip in a long time, but I remember back when I did, coming up with a strategy to get it again as soon as I could. Maybe it is because when you put in a dip, especially the first one of the day you get a little perk, a lot of relief and it makes you feel just very slightly high. So after you come down from that or it fades away, the rest of your day feels just a little down...does that make any sense?
Also, has anyone noticed that it seems people who are successful in life and are happy, content, and hardworking are less likely to be tobacco users? Many of the tobacco users that I know struggle a bit more in life. IÂ’m not trying to create a stereotype or piss anyone off, I just know a lot of people that are less happy in life and will tell you that life just sucks are tobacco users.
I have just been wondering if anyone else has had thoughts of slight depression or being less productive and happy when using tobacco. And even if nobody else has noticed this I have been rolling these thoughts around for a couple years now and wondering about it. Embracing this idea is just more motivation for me to quit. And in the end, that is the ultimate goal here anyway.

[cghbuilder86]

Thanks man! yeah, I am through with the lozenges. I don't know if they helped any at the start or not but they certainly aren't helping me anymore. So I am ready to get some time behind me being 100% nic free.

[klark]

So it has taken me three hours this morning of doing nothing to decide to post roll for the first time. Even though I have not had a dip in 2017 yet, starting something new makes me want to have one last dip before dedicating to this. I thought I could go run a few errands today by myself and sneak a last dip. I finally beat that feeling down. I know deep down I have made way to much progress already to risk that.
So about posting roll, I said that I have not had many nicotine lozenges and I haven't, but I did have one just yesterday when I was about to pull my hair out and registered with this site. So if my last bit of nic was yesterday what group am I in? I can only find the groups for 2016.

Here is your group: topic/30106725/241/#new

You need to get rid of those lozenges, we are no nicotine. This will suck, embrace it. Give your word, drink water and do what you have to and stay away from it. I will be happy to give you my number to get you through it if you need help. Focus on today only, hell the next 5 minutes if you have to.

You got this. It;s hard but totally worth it.

[cghbuilder86]

So it has taken me three hours this morning of doing nothing to decide to post roll for the first time. Even though I have not had a dip in 2017 yet, starting something new makes me want to have one last dip before dedicating to this. I thought I could go run a few errands today by myself and sneak a last dip. I finally beat that feeling down. I know deep down I have made way to much progress already to risk that.
So about posting roll, I said that I have not had many nicotine lozenges and I haven't, but I did have one just yesterday when I was about to pull my hair out and registered with this site. So if my last bit of nic was yesterday what group am I in? I can only find the groups for 2016.

[wildirish317]

cghbuilder, I hopefully will save you some time. If quitting nicotine is not one of the most important things in your life, don't bother. There is absolutely no way to quit this addiction unless it is just as important as you, your wife, your kids, your parents, your family, your health, .....you get the idea. Not more important, but just as important. You cannot arrest this addiction unless you give it the importance it deserves. Eventually, it will kill you, if you let it. Once you understand that, you are ready to quit. Until then, don't bother. Don't waste your time. Don't waste our time.

[Viking]

Welcome to the rest of your life my friend. Awesome start putting all of that thought into your words. A few things:

Foremost, this site is built on accountability and brotherhood. So glad you found us.

1. All the support you will ever need to quit is right here at KTC
2. The price of admission/support is posting roll everyday. It sounds like you would be in April 17 group. Posting roll is simply a promise that you will not use nicotine for that day. We post as early as we can every day to make sure it is a promise.
3. This is a nicotine free forum. Cold turkey is the only method here.
4. You are addicted to a weed, just like I am. It will control you. It will control the drives to work and the coffee. It controls your work buddies. No more for you. You are quit.
5. Do not romanticize the weed. It will kill you just as you state.glorifying your past with it will only allow it continue to have control over your life.
6. Use fake dip if you have to or seeds or whatever to take in the oral fixation. It goes away.


YOU CAN DO THIS! Now go post roll with April along with the number of days it has been since you last had the nicotine lozenges and let's get to quitting!

[cghbuilder86]

Hello everybody, This is my first post here. IÂ’m 30 years old, IÂ’ve been dipping for about 3-4 years. It started slow and I of course never planned to get hooked on it. For at least the entire first year or two my first dip of the day was not until my drive home from work which was a good 12 hours after waking up in the morning. Finally it got out of hand and IÂ’
ve been dipping 1/2-1 can a day for the last year probably. I didnÂ’t start dipping full time until right before I had decided to quit for one of the first few times. I wanted to get good and sick of it and prove to myself that dipping through the whole day was not that great....we see how that worked out. Anyway after trying countless times to quit I would always lose my motivation within 3 days-1 week. Well, my wife and I had our first baby on 12-20-2016 and I had scheduled to take four weeks off of work to help my wife and bond with our baby. I had decided that this time off from work would be the best time to quit because I wouldnÂ’t have the stress and needed extra focus that I do at work. So I had my last planned dip early morning of dec. 20. We had our daughter late in the day on the 20 and were in the hospital for three days. I did cave in and bummed a pinch from my brother when he was visiting after Christmas. He was going back home (halfway across the country from where I live) the next day so I knew it wouldnÂ’t be a temptation to bum one after he left. I havenÂ’t bought a can since before my planned quit date and havenÂ’t had a single dip since the day with my brother. I have had a couple of 2mg nicotene lozenges along the way but not many. They donÂ’t seem to help very much. I have been thinking about dip pretty much constantly the entire weeks I have been off and dip free. It was good to be at home and deal with it and not have to cope with the normal stresses of my 50 hr/week work schedule. I am scheduled to start back work this Tue. 1/17. And I am getting super nervous about how I am not going to cave in. My wife and I have been together pretty much the entire time I have been off and there has been no way I could get my hands on a can of grizzly and sneak a dip without getting caught. But knowing that I could buy a can and dip to and from work without getting caught is making me question my ability to hold strong.
The problem I am having is not really feeling like I want to quit. When I am in the routine of dipping I always feel like I want to kick this habit. But once I have gone a little while without a dip I feel like I donÂ’t really want to quit. I feel like even after the cravings are all gone I would still miss it. There is nothing in the morning that makes me want to get out of bed for work like knowing that I get 30 mins to drive to work and enjoy my coffee and dip. I am surrounded by so many people that dip the health risks donÂ’t even feel real. I feel like the chances of getting cancer are slim or that it would be so far in the future that I could worry about it later. I know that is stupid....but when you are craving a dip that is just kinda how you feel. So, if any of you have words of encouragement about how you feel to have quit and gotten past it all I would love to hear them. I just need to know if I will ever be able to look back and not miss dipping. I donÂ’t want to go 6 months without dipping and still look back and miss it or get excited at the thought of buying a can. I feel sometimes like I would rather take my chances with the health risks and pay for higher insurance than to still miss it long after getting over the hump. The stress of wanting it all the time is getting OLD!