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[Waterman]

well. i'm on my 3rd day. posted to roll call. feeling a little better. trying not to take it out on my loved ones or employees. i know i'm not the pleseantest little peach to be around. but at least i'm on day 3. and i feel so much better. movement and exercise helps. yesterday i paddled my surfski for 45 minutes. i am hoping today will be better than yesterday.

Got to jump in here. You sound very strong willed and that's great but I will say for me my addiction with alcohol was a breeze compared to my addiction for tobacco. Dipped 38 years, was extremely and still is rarely hard to overcome. See you have to dig in with both feet and listen to these people, even if everyone sounds like an asshole, we're all on your side. This is not a habit it's a very bad addiction second only to heroine. So when you feel like being a prick to your loved ones or employees bring your ass in here! We will bitch, fuss, cuss and cry with you if we need to. Remember we've been where you are now and where your headed to. We understand like your family and friends don't have a clue. You're already got a great start, some badass quitters jumped on the wagon with you, my advice and believe me this is some great advice get there damn numbers and give them yours because I don't care how big and bad you may think you are that little tin will haunt your ass daily and you're gonna need help. I quit with you today! Quit on!


Pab 1010 day's ago I was where you are now!

That is awesome pab. I appreciate your wisdom. And I will take it to heart. In my experience willpower is a non factor. You either are an addict or you are not. If you have decided that your addicted to chew and your life is unmanageable then that's huge. From that point on it's all about dealing with one urge at a time and finding support. Using support.
A few other things that have helped me are excercise and sauna. I'm fortunate that I have a sauna. But both of these help detox the nicotine faster from your system. Plus it can keep you busy.
So today is day 4 for me. I feel a lot better then yesterday. I have rolled called already and I pledge to not chew today with the rest of you brothers and sisters that are going about it one day at a time, one minute at a time.

[pab1964]

well. i'm on my 3rd day. posted to roll call. feeling a little better. trying not to take it out on my loved ones or employees. i know i'm not the pleseantest little peach to be around. but at least i'm on day 3. and i feel so much better. movement and exercise helps. yesterday i paddled my surfski for 45 minutes. i am hoping today will be better than yesterday.

Got to jump in here. You sound very strong willed and that's great but I will say for me my addiction with alcohol was a breeze compared to my addiction for tobacco. Dipped 38 years, was extremely and still is rarely hard to overcome. See you have to dig in with both feet and listen to these people, even if everyone sounds like an asshole, we're all on your side. This is not a habit it's a very bad addiction second only to heroine. So when you feel like being a prick to your loved ones or employees bring your ass in here! We will bitch, fuss, cuss and cry with you if we need to. Remember we've been where you are now and where your headed to. We understand like your family and friends don't have a clue. You're already got a great start, some badass quitters jumped on the wagon with you, my advice and believe me this is some great advice get there damn numbers and give them yours because I don't care how big and bad you may think you are that little tin will haunt your ass daily and you're gonna need help. I quit with you today! Quit on!


Pab 1010 day's ago I was where you are now!

[Waterman]

well. i'm on my 3rd day. posted to roll call. feeling a little better. trying not to take it out on my loved ones or employees. i know i'm not the pleseantest little peach to be around. but at least i'm on day 3. and i feel so much better. movement and exercise helps. yesterday i paddled my surfski for 45 minutes. i am hoping today will be better than yesterday.

[Waterman]

Hey alreadytaken, I am exactly where you are at . I'm 52 , been sober 7 and a half years , have chewed most of my life. (Copenhagen long cut then Grizzly natural long cut). Dumped all my stuff tonight. Will start day 1 tomorrow, will post roll with the Jan. '18 quit group, hope you will post roll also. Maybe sometime we could exchange ph numbers and text. I'm ready to do this, it is time. So glad I found this site, Glad you are here also. We know the one-day-at-a-time thing, don't we?!
Bacc off straight (fake chew) is the closest ive found to cope....in my opinion
Good luck, my brother, we can do this together.....no problem

hey Rick good luck to you today. and congrats on your 7 years clean and sober. lets do this together. i just woke up here in Hawaii and its 5:48. i am drinking my coffee and usually right after that i drop my first chew. but not today. today is different. i want to create a new habit. and that new habit is not dropping a dip right after my coffee. i dumped my cans last night so i'm canless. my doc has given me some natural non pharma supplements to increase dopamine. i am going to take this one moment at a time. i know the urges come and then they pass. they sit there. i have to direct myself when the urges come or chew gum. maybe i will look for some Bacc off Straight. so Rick lets do it one day at a time one minute at a time i wish you the best of luck and i will see you in the jan '18 quit group. my # is XXX-XXX-XXXX
take care brother stay strong. we are powerless over chew and our life is unmanageable. made a decision..
i know today will be tuff. but i have quit 3 times in the past and i know that day one is always hardest for me. when i go to bed tonight after not chewing all day it will feel good. then i will worry about tomorrow. then the next day.

I love the enthusiasm and willingness to share digits, but please keep them to PM. You never know who is trolling in the public sphere.

yes i will PM in the future. thanks

[Waterman]

So are you going to go find your quit group and post roll? That's one of THE MOST IMPORTANT tools in most quits. Not saying you can't quit solo, but guaranteeing you will find a ton of support if you drink the Kool-Aid and jump into the KTC quit method with both feet. Wake up, Piss, Post Roll...trade digits....build a web of accountability....

Simple? Absolutely. Easy? No way. Doable? With certainty.

I was an active Copenhagen Addict for nearly 4 decades. I've been an inactive addict for 1,209 days.

Come on, take the plunge. Read up on how this place works and why roll call is so very important HERE.

thanks caveman. i didn't know about roll call, but i do now and i'm all in!

[pky1520]

Hey alreadytaken, I am exactly where you are at . I'm 52 , been sober 7 and a half years , have chewed most of my life. (Copenhagen long cut then Grizzly natural long cut). Dumped all my stuff tonight. Will start day 1 tomorrow, will post roll with the Jan. '18 quit group, hope you will post roll also. Maybe sometime we could exchange ph numbers and text. I'm ready to do this, it is time. So glad I found this site, Glad you are here also. We know the one-day-at-a-time thing, don't we?!
Bacc off straight (fake chew) is the closest ive found to cope....in my opinion
Good luck, my brother, we can do this together.....no problem

hey Rick good luck to you today. and congrats on your 7 years clean and sober. lets do this together. i just woke up here in Hawaii and its 5:48. i am drinking my coffee and usually right after that i drop my first chew. but not today. today is different. i want to create a new habit. and that new habit is not dropping a dip right after my coffee. i dumped my cans last night so i'm canless. my doc has given me some natural non pharma supplements to increase dopamine. i am going to take this one moment at a time. i know the urges come and then they pass. they sit there. i have to direct myself when the urges come or chew gum. maybe i will look for some Bacc off Straight. so Rick lets do it one day at a time one minute at a time i wish you the best of luck and i will see you in the jan '18 quit group. my # is XXX-XXX-XXXX
take care brother stay strong. we are powerless over chew and our life is unmanageable. made a decision..
i know today will be tuff. but i have quit 3 times in the past and i know that day one is always hardest for me. when i go to bed tonight after not chewing all day it will feel good. then i will worry about tomorrow. then the next day.

I love the enthusiasm and willingness to share digits, but please keep them to PM. You never know who is trolling in the public sphere.

[CavMan83]

So are you going to go find your quit group and post roll? That's one of THE MOST IMPORTANT tools in most quits. Not saying you can't quit solo, but guaranteeing you will find a ton of support if you drink the Kool-Aid and jump into the KTC quit method with both feet. Wake up, Piss, Post Roll...trade digits....build a web of accountability....

Simple? Absolutely. Easy? No way. Doable? With certainty.

I was an active Copenhagen Addict for nearly 4 decades. I've been an inactive addict for 1,209 days.

Come on, take the plunge. Read up on how this place works and why roll call is so very important HERE.

[Waterman]

Alreadytaken - if you want to be successful, you're going to have to make a few adjustments to your attitude, assuming you follow through and post up today.

You call dipping your "sanctuary," and say that you have to quit because of health reasons. Let me tell you, that is straight addict speak. That is your chemical dependacy manifesting itself as a trusted friend or safety blanket. When you quit, you realize it was all a lie. That "sanctuary" was actually stealing your money and making you its bitch. You don't need it.

And while a health scare can be a good catalyst to get you started, it won't drive you through the long haul. Eventually, the scare will go away and you'll open the door back to using again.

To be successful, you are actually going to have to want this. Nowhere in your intro do I see you say you actually want to quit. You're going to have to figure that out, or this will just be another brief stoppage. I'm not trying to be an ass, but it's the hard truth and I'm doing you no favors by sugarcoating it.

Fortunately, this site has a wealth of tools to educate, motivate and help you develop a plan for success. Spend some serious time here reading about how the site works and what different people have struggled through in their quits. This will give you a good idea about what to expect and it might help you reflect and develop that desire to quit.

Reach out if I can help.

a chew (CA) nazi? lol
"chemical dependacy manifesting itself as a trusted friend or safety blanket"

right on man i hear you. i must remember what i write on internet someone will dissect it. you are correct and i did not say that i wanted to quit. so:
i want to quit
here to quit chew, not argue the finer points of addictive psychology. remember i said i had 24 years in that program? i know what its like to be a addict in recovery. 24 years of experience. and i know that today will be hard. and every moment that urge arise i am going to sit with it and recognize it and NOT fight, but know that its just a urge and it will pass. like right know. i just finished my coffee and i want my morning dip. i am sitting with my little monster urge. lol. i think i'll have another cup of coffee.
and i really do want to quit. it will be nice to not have to worry about whether or not i have my spit cup in my rig. or when headed home at night do i have enough for the evening. all that bs disappears in one day. amazing. i remember because i quit before. 4 times. cold turkey. and what happens is after a while the physical body starts to "help" the psychological body.i will tell you that i am not worried about the long haul. its irrelevant. i am just worried about today. and this moment.
attitude adjusted. thank you for posting pky1520. i really do appreciate your words and they help

[Waterman]

Hey good on both of you. We're all fighting the same addiction here. Drink plenty of water that first week. Use seeds gum fake chew. I still use fake chew but it will be a habit to break later.something that can help you sleep is melatonin cause that really jacked me up not sleeping well. Think sleep problems make the fog worse the next day. Post a promise first thing every morning to not use niccotine for that day. We beat the addiction one day at a time.

thank for the well wish. its morning here and i will not use niccotine today. theres my promise.

[Waterman]

Hey alreadytaken, I am exactly where you are at . I'm 52 , been sober 7 and a half years , have chewed most of my life. (Copenhagen long cut then Grizzly natural long cut). Dumped all my stuff tonight. Will start day 1 tomorrow, will post roll with the Jan. '18 quit group, hope you will post roll also. Maybe sometime we could exchange ph numbers and text. I'm ready to do this, it is time. So glad I found this site, Glad you are here also. We know the one-day-at-a-time thing, don't we?!
Bacc off straight (fake chew) is the closest ive found to cope....in my opinion
Good luck, my brother, we can do this together.....no problem

hey Rick good luck to you today. and congrats on your 7 years clean and sober. lets do this together. i just woke up here in Hawaii and its 5:48. i am drinking my coffee and usually right after that i drop my first chew. but not today. today is different. i want to create a new habit. and that new habit is not dropping a dip right after my coffee. i dumped my cans last night so i'm canless. my doc has given me some natural non pharma supplements to increase dopamine. i am going to take this one moment at a time. i know the urges come and then they pass. they sit there. i have to direct myself when the urges come or chew gum. maybe i will look for some Bacc off Straight. so Rick lets do it one day at a time one minute at a time i wish you the best of luck and i will see you in the jan '18 quit group. my # is XXX-XXX-XXXX
take care brother stay strong. we are powerless over chew and our life is unmanageable. made a decision..
i know today will be tuff. but i have quit 3 times in the past and i know that day one is always hardest for me. when i go to bed tonight after not chewing all day it will feel good. then i will worry about tomorrow. then the next day.

[pky1520]

Alreadytaken - if you want to be successful, you're going to have to make a few adjustments to your attitude, assuming you follow through and post up today.

You call dipping your "sanctuary," and say that you have to quit because of health reasons. Let me tell you, that is straight addict speak. That is your chemical dependacy manifesting itself as a trusted friend or safety blanket. When you quit, you realize it was all a lie. That "sanctuary" was actually stealing your money and making you its bitch. You don't need it.

And while a health scare can be a good catalyst to get you started, it won't drive you through the long haul. Eventually, the scare will go away and you'll open the door back to using again.

To be successful, you are actually going to have to want this. Nowhere in your intro do I see you say you actually want to quit. You're going to have to figure that out, or this will just be another brief stoppage. I'm not trying to be an ass, but it's the hard truth and I'm doing you no favors by sugarcoating it.

Fortunately, this site has a wealth of tools to educate, motivate and help you develop a plan for success. Spend some serious time here reading about how the site works and what different people have struggled through in their quits. This will give you a good idea about what to expect and it might help you reflect and develop that desire to quit.

Reach out if I can help.

[JMckay]

Hey good on both of you. We're all fighting the same addiction here. Drink plenty of water that first week. Use seeds gum fake chew. I still use fake chew but it will be a habit to break later.something that can help you sleep is melatonin cause that really jacked me up not sleeping well. Think sleep problems make the fog worse the next day. Post a promise first thing every morning to not use niccotine for that day. We beat the addiction one day at a time.

[Rick B]

Hey alreadytaken, I am exactly where you are at . I'm 52 , been sober 7 and a half years , have chewed most of my life. (Copenhagen long cut then Grizzly natural long cut). Dumped all my stuff tonight. Will start day 1 tomorrow, will post roll with the Jan. '18 quit group, hope you will post roll also. Maybe sometime we could exchange ph numbers and text. I'm ready to do this, it is time. So glad I found this site, Glad you are here also. We know the one-day-at-a-time thing, don't we?!
Bacc off straight (fake chew) is the closest ive found to cope....in my opinion
Good luck, my brother, we can do this together.....no problem

[Waterman]

wanted to introduce myself. i'm alreadytaken. i wanted to be gottaquit but it was alreadytaken. so here i am.
so, i got my results from my dutch test back yesterday and it seems that my estrogen is high and testosterone is low! go figure. no wonder i been bogging lately. i'm 52 years old in a couple of weeks. i been chewing the better part of 20 years. i have quit a few times before but always go back to it. i don't do anything else. no drugs, no alchohol. i am in recovery for 24 years now. so i like to chew. its my last sanctuary. or so i feel. now i have to quit because its really affecting my health. it has always affected my health but not like this. so tomorrow is day one. i will toss my cans tonight. i chew copenhagen long cut. i'm going cold turkey. my experience with quitting in the past tells me this is the best way. day 1 is the hardest. if i can just last tomorrow i should be good. wish me luck and pray for me please. i am happy you guys are here. this is a great site. if anyone has any advice to help me i would sure appreciate it.
mahalo nui Nate