Day 1 Again

[MikeJW]

All of the above, plus the fact that I've literally tossed half a can out a night for the past two weeks or so, "quitting", only to buy another in the morning. The fake promise was costing me money lol. But really I'd last like half the day and with no support it was just a walk to the store to have a "last dip" before trying again tomorrow.

[Frazzled]

Bumped so I could combine your two Intros.

Are you really ready this time? You seemed ready in 2016. What's changed this time?

[eric71]

Felt like I've wasted enough money emptying the can in the trash at night after my "last" dip and buying another one as soon as I get a craving the next day. Done enough lurking on here, time to do it for real. Could definitely use all the support possible!

If you've lurked then you know the drill. Wake, piss, post roll. Honor your word for 24 hours. That is all we ask. The support is here if you want it.

[canofbeans]

Hell yeah, Mike! Welcome and congrats on your decision. It will not be easy, but it is very simple...post your promise, keep your promise, repeat daily.

Reach out to you brothers of May, exchange numbers for an extra layer of accountability. You can do this!

[MikeJW]

Felt like I've wasted enough money emptying the can in the trash at night after my "last" dip and buying another one as soon as I get a craving the next day. Done enough lurking on here, time to do it for real. Could definitely use all the support possible!

[Armydan13]

Hi All

I'm brand new to the forum. 27 years old, have dipped on and off since I was 16. Mostly in the past few years, have used dip to quit smoking (if it's not one it's the other). I was on Skoal Mint longcut for a long time, packing pretty big ones. In the past year or so, I managed to cut down to pouches, first 3, then 2, now in the past 6 months or so I only use one pouch of Grizzly Wintergreen at a time.

I'm planning on quitting because I'm scared. Scared of the cancer, gum disease, losing a jaw, all of it. My bottom gums have receded, skin peels from my cheek often, and yet I still dip. I know I want to quit, it's just tough finding substitutes and especially sucks because I actually still enjoy it. Well actually starting to not really enjoy the fact that I am so dependent on nicotine, but nothing at the moment can beat the relaxation of throwing in a dip.

I'm seriously planning on a quit date in 2 weeks, and I'm really hoping I can stick to it. I went to Brazil a couple weeks ago, only brought a half tin not realizing they really don't sell this shit down there, and somehow I went the last 2 days and flight home with only one pouch I reused and sucked dry 3 or 4 times. So I know I'm capable of being without nicotine, just need some sort of replacement for this oral fixation I guess.

Anyways, seems like this forum is great support. Glad to have found it. Any advice on tapering off, getting ready to quit, what the hell to do with myself once I do, would be greatly appreciated.

Mike,

The fake stuff (Smokey mountain, Jakes) really helped me get through the physical withdrawals for the first week or two, along with plenty of water and exercise. The first week I went through 2 cans of the fake stuff; and now I have all these spare cans lying around; and to be honest I wonder if I'll ever even use them again. I know the first few days feels like the end of the world but trust me I'm 27 also and I survived.

PM me if you need anything. And I hope you post roll soon.

-Dan C.

[jswiss11]

hey man - let me tell you. I've tried everything in the book. I was to the point where i didnt even really like chewing. My jaw hurt. the sores in my mouth were getting rougher. I was just on auto-pilot though. I'd put in a fatty when i got bored, or angry, or tired. or because i felt like i needed to shit.

I tried to taper. I tried setting quit dates. I tried weaning down with the lozenges and nicotine gum. I literally thought about and tried to quit for YEARS. it was never successful until i found this place. and cold turkey quit is the only way.

yes - you have to be ready mentally to know that it is going to suck a big ol bag of dicks (as the saying goes). big. hard. and floppy dicks too. it is no doubt one of the most difficult things I've ever had to do. but it is also very rewarding. the sooner you nut up and quit, the better you will be.

I started when i was 15. I'm 32. You may not be ready. Because it is all or nothing here. It's the only way it works. Go read up on the main site www.killthecan.org about how powerful and deadly this poison is.

[CowMus]

There's no *easy* way to quit, man. You have to want it and you have to be prepared to deal with the suck. It will suck a big ole bag of dicks for a while, but it will get better.

I will guarantee that you're better off just throwing everything out right now and quitting cold turkey than trying to taper down. Tapering only keeps you in a constant state of withdrawal and never actually gets you closer to quit. Read up on the nature of addiction and you'll see what I mean. EVERY single usage resets the addiction in your brain. The only way to beat it is a complete stoppage of that cycle.

Here's the thing though, pal - this isn't a "Support" site - this is a QUIT site. You will find TONS of support, but that support is by no means unconditional. Everyone who actively posts here is quit, so there's really no tolerance for "I'm not sure if I'm ready for this," "This is too hard," or "I'm trying my best," because we all nutted up and did it. Every single one of us has failed in the past, but now that we're here, we stay quit because anything less is intolerable.

If you aren't sure you're ready for this, then I'm sorry to say it, but you're right - you aren't ready. This is a daily struggle and it doesn't end after the early withdrawal symptoms fade away. If you can't handle what's coming, then my suggestion is to collect yourself and come back when you are ready to throw everything you have at it.

Apologies if this seems harsh, but it's the naked truth. There are no shortcuts and not everyone is strong enough to quit. Only you can determine whether you are strong enough to do it now, or just wait and quit when you're dead.

PKY is wise beyond his years.

Go get plenty of dip alternatives and quit now. Tapering off doesn't really work. It's going to be awful for a few days, but you'll survive.

Would love to be quit with you.

CowMus

[pky1520]

There's no *easy* way to quit, man. You have to want it and you have to be prepared to deal with the suck. It will suck a big ole bag of dicks for a while, but it will get better.

I will guarantee that you're better off just throwing everything out right now and quitting cold turkey than trying to taper down. Tapering only keeps you in a constant state of withdrawal and never actually gets you closer to quit. Read up on the nature of addiction and you'll see what I mean. EVERY single usage resets the addiction in your brain. The only way to beat it is a complete stoppage of that cycle.

Here's the thing though, pal - this isn't a "Support" site - this is a QUIT site. You will find TONS of support, but that support is by no means unconditional. Everyone who actively posts here is quit, so there's really no tolerance for "I'm not sure if I'm ready for this," "This is too hard," or "I'm trying my best," because we all nutted up and did it. Every single one of us has failed in the past, but now that we're here, we stay quit because anything less is intolerable.

If you aren't sure you're ready for this, then I'm sorry to say it, but you're right - you aren't ready. This is a daily struggle and it doesn't end after the early withdrawal symptoms fade away. If you can't handle what's coming, then my suggestion is to collect yourself and come back when you are ready to throw everything you have at it.

Apologies if this seems harsh, but it's the naked truth. There are no shortcuts and not everyone is strong enough to quit. Only you can determine whether you are strong enough to do it now, or just wait and quit when you're dead.

[DevinHeff]

Hi All

I'm brand new to the forum. 27 years old, have dipped on and off since I was 16. Mostly in the past few years, have used dip to quit smoking (if it's not one it's the other). I was on Skoal Mint longcut for a long time, packing pretty big ones. In the past year or so, I managed to cut down to pouches, first 3, then 2, now in the past 6 months or so I only use one pouch of Grizzly Wintergreen at a time.

I'm planning on quitting because I'm scared. Scared of the cancer, gum disease, losing a jaw, all of it. My bottom gums have receded, skin peels from my cheek often, and yet I still dip. I know I want to quit, it's just tough finding substitutes and especially sucks because I actually still enjoy it. Well actually starting to not really enjoy the fact that I am so dependent on nicotine, but nothing at the moment can beat the relaxation of throwing in a dip.

I'm seriously planning on a quit date in 2 weeks, and I'm really hoping I can stick to it. I went to Brazil a couple weeks ago, only brought a half tin not realizing they really don't sell this shit down there, and somehow I went the last 2 days and flight home with only one pouch I reused and sucked dry 3 or 4 times. So I know I'm capable of being without nicotine, just need some sort of replacement for this oral fixation I guess.

Anyways, seems like this forum is great support. Glad to have found it. Any advice on tapering off, getting ready to quit, what the hell to do with myself once I do, would be greatly appreciated.

Whats up bro!
Why not quit now? Fuck waiting a few weeks. Let me tell you some shit, I'm 27 like you and been dipping the same amount of time as you. I decided you know what I'm a slave to this can and I'm over it. I got the courage up and went to the dentist. Dude told me I have tobacco ketosis and if it doesn't go away on its on I need a biopsy. Talk about a mudda fuckn wake up call brother!! Quit now before you get some shit like me!

There are some tobacco and nictoene free "dip/chew" alternitives out there. I have attempted to use these in the past. I would run out of them quick and couldn't find them in the local store and end up just buying the real thing. But I guess if you stockpile them up you wouldn't have that problem.

There is a roll call to keep you accountable and I'm sure some of the "old timers" will lace you up.

I'm inly on day 5 man we could keep each other in check, ill shoot you my phone #....

Good luck

Devin

[MikeJW]

Hi All

I'm brand new to the forum. 27 years old, have dipped on and off since I was 16. Mostly in the past few years, have used dip to quit smoking (if it's not one it's the other). I was on Skoal Mint longcut for a long time, packing pretty big ones. In the past year or so, I managed to cut down to pouches, first 3, then 2, now in the past 6 months or so I only use one pouch of Grizzly Wintergreen at a time.

I'm planning on quitting because I'm scared. Scared of the cancer, gum disease, losing a jaw, all of it. My bottom gums have receded, skin peels from my cheek often, and yet I still dip. I know I want to quit, it's just tough finding substitutes and especially sucks because I actually still enjoy it. Well actually starting to not really enjoy the fact that I am so dependent on nicotine, but nothing at the moment can beat the relaxation of throwing in a dip.

I'm seriously planning on a quit date in 2 weeks, and I'm really hoping I can stick to it. I went to Brazil a couple weeks ago, only brought a half tin not realizing they really don't sell this shit down there, and somehow I went the last 2 days and flight home with only one pouch I reused and sucked dry 3 or 4 times. So I know I'm capable of being without nicotine, just need some sort of replacement for this oral fixation I guess.

Anyways, seems like this forum is great support. Glad to have found it. Any advice on tapering off, getting ready to quit, what the hell to do with myself once I do, would be greatly appreciated.