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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2016, 02:31:00 AM »
Quote from: NitLion
Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.
NitLion

First and foremost, Go Penn State!! We go screwed!!

I wish I could tell you that quitting little by little was the best way to quit. I would be bull shitting you if i told you that!! I dipped or smoked for nearly 30 years and the best thing for me was to quit cold turkey and take on the support that his place has to offer. with the amount of support I have gotten here I would not be where I am today without it. All I can say is just put down the nic and start the next chapter of your life now. NIC FREE!! Trust me, it works!!!
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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2016, 10:35:00 PM »
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Quote from: NitLion
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate
So you plan on coming back in 2 months? Man that's BS.

Another thing that's BS is wearing a patch.


I'm all about supporting you but, you have to quit nicotine PERIOD. That's the KTC way brother.
10:1 in those 60 days of stoppage you have a dip with the patch on you. Quit now and get on with freedom. Everyone posting here in your intro did it.
The only thing using nicotine will do is prevent your withdrawal from nicotine. It sucks for sure. I'm sure like myself you tried to quit many times before and did not succeed - I don't think you'd be posting an introduction thread here if this was not the case.

Cold turkey, plus accountability, plus brotherhood works. I have almost 500 days of quit to support this. B)B

I understand that your workplace and "the fog" might not mix - but maybe you can get some time off from work while you get your quit going? It seems to me that when balancing work vs. health the choice should be obvious?

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2016, 02:22:00 PM »
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Quote from: NitLion
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate
So you plan on coming back in 2 months? Man that's BS.

Another thing that's BS is wearing a patch.


I'm all about supporting you but, you have to quit nicotine PERIOD. That's the KTC way brother.
10:1 in those 60 days of stoppage you have a dip with the patch on you. Quit now and get on with freedom. Everyone posting here in your intro did it.

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2016, 08:20:00 AM »
Quote from: NitLion
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate
So you plan on coming back in 2 months? Man that's BS.

Another thing that's BS is wearing a patch.


I'm all about supporting you but, you have to quit nicotine PERIOD. That's the KTC way brother.
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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2016, 11:23:00 PM »
Quote from: NitLion
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate
Dude - you don't get it at all.

If you are quitting for your girlfriend, you are hosed. You are done. You will fail.

Just so you know, thousands of people here are actually right when it comes to quitting - not you when you are using. You being a user are very wrong. Me being a quitter, I'm very right. These are the things that need to happen in order for YOU to quit nicotine.

YOU need to quit this for YOU!!! No one else at all. NO ONE. You need to quit because YOU WANT TO QUIT. Quitting for someone else is going to lead to certain failure. How do I know? I'm a quitter and believe me when I say this, I tried multiple times before to quit for someone else and failed every fucking time. Everyone else did as well here...ask any of them. The people who are quit here for hundreds, thousands, etc. of days all have one thing in common - they have quit because they finally surrendered to themselves that they need help and that they are ADDICTS. If you do not buy into that...you are done. Am I being an ass? Sure - if you want to look at it that way...but I'm also being 100% right because that is how nicotine works. The addict mind is crafty and will never go away. This is no 'habit' as you say...this is an addiction and it will always be there. No one is ever cured from this addiction. Once you surrender and give in and own that you are an addict and that you need help...then join in. Otherwise...please come back when you are not using ANY form of nicotine. This site does not tolerate any type of it at all.

In the end, I'm disappointed you are choosing the NRT way of bullshit. Keep giving big tobacco money that you could have for you and your girlfriend later in life. 'facepalm''
Good...good, let the quit flow through you!  -chewie

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2016, 11:23:00 PM »
Quote from: NitLion
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate
My apologies for the harshness of the below. I'm not an asshole, but sugarcoating this will do you a disservice.

Your girlfriend can't quit for you. If she's your motivation, you've already failed. This has to be for you.

2 months might as well be 10 years. Every single one of us has blown by planned quit dates. There is always an excuse to keep using.

Tapering only prolongs the misery, it doesn't lessen it.

A long term plan of success that is "tbd" equals a plan for failure. A plan for success is to quit today. A long term plan for success is to quit again tomorrow.

It's an addiction not a habit. You are an addict. Deal with it.

You came to this site asking for help. You've received it. If you discard it, that's on you.

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2016, 11:15:00 PM »
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Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.
That's a great recipe for some very weak sauce.

I look forward to hearing how that's working for you as you quit over the next 9 years.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but if you want to quit - quit. Trying isn't doing. Your job isn't more important or more difficult that many others. This site is cold turkey, that is how things are done here. Everyone posting is quit, so there is very little sympathy for anyone with nic in their veins, talking about how hard quitting is.

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2016, 11:15:00 PM »
I appreciate all of the responses. As I stated in my post, I was completely open to redirection and that's a good portion of what I got.

Stranger999 -- I absolutely appreciate the genuine questions. I planned to come to this site for support during the process, but now realize I am not yet a qualified client. That is fine, and I respect the guidelines. I'll be back in about 2 months (compliant) and will absolutely be looking into the support the site can offer. My long term plan for success is TBD. My wonderful girlfriend has been my motivation so far. She's one of the most selfless people I've ever met, and getting and staying addicted is one of the more selfish things I've ever done. She was completely in the loop on the habit (eventually) and now she is my biggest advocate for change... in a pleasant way.

All -- Thanks again,
Nate

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2016, 10:29:00 PM »
So, once you are nicotine free are you going to join a quit group here? What is the long term plan for success?

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2016, 04:12:00 PM »
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Quote from: NitLion
Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.
KTC's thoughts - NO NRT OF ANY KIND!!!!!!

I really want you to think about what I'm about to say long and hard:

1. We are all ADDICTED to NICOTINE...not dipping...not smoking...not vaping...not snus...but NICOTINE!!!
2. NRT is NICOTINE!!! You aren't even quitting and weening isn't a successful method when looking at the masses who have actually successfully quit.
3. By using NRT you aren't even going through the withdrawal that will eventually occur...you are merely delaying it because you are feeding your body the addiction still with nic. Why would you try quitting something with the chemical that is feeding your addiction? That is crazy talk and a really stupid strategy. This is what we are fooled into doing just like tanning bed companies will promote to the public that people need to get a 'base' tan before going on vacation so they don't get burned. Biggest bunch of bullshit in the world.
4. NRT is manufactured and sold by the tobacco companies. Big tobacco is still making money off of all the addicts who are fooled into using NRT. You'd think with all of these people trying to quit that those companies would be faltering...nope, they are thriving because they are keeping people addicted to nicotine...just in a different form.
5. Big Tobacco is selling their "Company Programs" to companies big and small who know nothing about quitting nicotine. The company knows tobacco is unhealthy and big tobacco has 'sold' these horseshit programs to companies so they (big tobacco) stay in business feeding all of these nicotine addicts with NRT which is completely harmful for everyone to begin with (i.e. nicotine causes heart disease, heart failure, high blood pressure, anxiety).

I get you are listening to your company paid program...but it is a bunch of bullshit because the people who procured it are likely not addicts like you and I are...cold turkey is the ONLY way. If you choose not to do that, you need to leave here because this is a nicotine free site. I'd rather you stay and quit this way than NRT which will not work long term.

Your choice...I hope you choose KTC.
Eventually you will have to go cold turkey from NRT (totally inaccurate name since it's not only replacing nicotine with nicotine...senseless) anyway. Cold turkey now just saves a step and some $$ along the way.

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2016, 04:00:00 PM »
Whatever it takes for you to be quit then do it but in my humble opinion cold turkey is the way to go We are all addicts and using NRT is like saying ...

....I have been shoving rat poison in my face for 3 years and I want to stop... but I am just going to cut it back a little at a time .....


Do you see how stupid that sounds? just my opinion quit how you see fit but like FullMetalSloth and Palpatine said this is a Nic Free Site that means all forms of Nicotine are a no go

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 03:54:00 PM »
Quote from: NitLion
Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.
KTC's thoughts - NO NRT OF ANY KIND!!!!!!

I really want you to think about what I'm about to say long and hard:

1. We are all ADDICTED to NICOTINE...not dipping...not smoking...not vaping...not snus...but NICOTINE!!!
2. NRT is NICOTINE!!! You aren't even quitting and weening isn't a successful method when looking at the masses who have actually successfully quit.
3. By using NRT you aren't even going through the withdrawal that will eventually occur...you are merely delaying it because you are feeding your body the addiction still with nic. Why would you try quitting something with the chemical that is feeding your addiction? That is crazy talk and a really stupid strategy. This is what we are fooled into doing just like tanning bed companies will promote to the public that people need to get a 'base' tan before going on vacation so they don't get burned. Biggest bunch of bullshit in the world.
4. NRT is manufactured and sold by the tobacco companies. Big tobacco is still making money off of all the addicts who are fooled into using NRT. You'd think with all of these people trying to quit that those companies would be faltering...nope, they are thriving because they are keeping people addicted to nicotine...just in a different form.
5. Big Tobacco is selling their "Company Programs" to companies big and small who know nothing about quitting nicotine. The company knows tobacco is unhealthy and big tobacco has 'sold' these horseshit programs to companies so they (big tobacco) stay in business feeding all of these nicotine addicts with NRT which is completely harmful for everyone to begin with (i.e. nicotine causes heart disease, heart failure, high blood pressure, anxiety).

I get you are listening to your company paid program...but it is a bunch of bullshit because the people who procured it are likely not addicts like you and I are...cold turkey is the ONLY way. If you choose not to do that, you need to leave here because this is a nicotine free site. I'd rather you stay and quit this way than NRT which will not work long term.

Your choice...I hope you choose KTC.
Good...good, let the quit flow through you!  -chewie

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Re: First Post on KTC
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 03:13:00 PM »
Quote from: NitLion
Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.
This site is nicotine free.

This site is not about NRT.

If that's what you think will work, good on you. But if you're gonna post here, you better be cold turkey. Feel free to come back when you're ready to quit.

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« on: December 22, 2016, 02:36:00 PM »
Hello KTC community!

I've visited the site from time to time, and finally signed up today. I am on day 16 without any of that nasty sh*t in my mouth. I want to share a strategy that has helped me with the "struggle" (or surprising lack of) that doesn't seem to be popular at KTC. I'm hoping that this may help others that are hoping to quit and that I might get some redirection from those who disagree with the strategy. Maybe you guys are actually on board with this and I just haven't seen the posts yet.

The theme here seems to revolve around quitting cold turkey. I've tried it, but my work does not allow that debilitating "fog" for weeks or even a few days. On 12/6/16, I stopped at the store on my lunch break and bought a 2-week box of transdermal patches. I stopped at home before going back to work and threw out the can I had bought that morning, along with the odds and ends laying around. There has rarely been a waking moment in the last 3 years that I have not had a snus in, replaced many evenings and weekends by the hard stuff. 2+ weeks in, and I'm very certain with where this is headed -- 8 more weeks with the patch and then no nic-bitch ever, EVER again.

Disclaimer: I have unsuccessfully quit with the patch before. I took shortcuts... do not take shortcuts. The prescribed plan is use 21 mg patches for 6 weeks, 14 mg for 2 weeks, and finally 7 mg for 2 weeks. I would start out at 14 and give in to the cravings. I would feel woozy for an hour after applying a 21 mg patch and take it off, buy a can, and cut the patch in half the next day. I'd start to feel irritable late in the day and put the other half on.

The key to success is right in the directions-- Start at 21 mg. If you feel dizzy, it will pass shortly. Use ONE patch per day... deal with the occasional irritability in the evening. Use the strongest dosage for 6 weeks regardless of how well it seems to be going when you run out at 2 and 4 weeks.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who can't seem to wrestle the beast cold turkey. I recommend the patch over other forms of cessation because I personally have used more and more gum or lozenges in the past to match what I had been doing with the can, and that doesn't help you quit.

The store brand is $25 for a 2 week supply. I was spending $4-8 per day on giving myself bad breath and cancer.

What are KTC's thoughts? Thank you all for what you are doing and what you contribute to others (like me) trying to quit.