Day 1

[theTJB]

Welcome back.


No matter how bad the urges get or how shitty you feel during your quit, know that we have all gone through the same thing and you can get through them too. Lean on your brothers when you need to.

Whenever you need to strengthen your quit, read through the Hall of Fame Speeches or the Words of Wisdom section.

If you need any help, feel free to send a PM.

Quit like fuck.

[wookie5002]

Welcome to the TITANS.

[dwbolto]

I joined this site over a year ago and proceeded to inform everyone that I was using the patch AND gum. That went over as well as a bull in a china factor. From that point on I chose to battle those that were rightfully giving me hell as opposed to buying into a method that was clearly working for so many. No surprise that quit was not successful and I now have another year of dipping under my belt. My addiction can now be measured in multiple decades, over half of which did not include spitting.

Why did I cave?
I think the real question is not why did I cave, but why did I choose to ignore the advice of experienced quitters. Hell, I’ve caved hundreds of times, maybe thousands. In fact, I only buy one tin at a time, because “I’m quitting tomorrow.” A phrase I’ve already been called out for on this site today.
So the answer is, I caved because I chose to continue to quit alone, as opposed to being quit with a group of like-minded men, which will be a totally new experience in the quitting saga.

What happened?
I’m not sure exactly how to answer that differently than “Why did I cave?” I suppose, if focusing just on my experience with the site, and not the dozens of attempts since then, I let my pride get in my way. Instead of humbly accepting the “advice” of those on this site, I chose to fight back. Even after that I gained an ally that contacted me daily, but I let him, and myself down. It was easier to dip, than to quit.
So I dipped, and that first one was, no doubt, unbelievable. But, just like every other time, that novelty wears off and youÂ’re left with an addiction that really does nothing but unsuccessfully attempt to fill a void.
And here I am, over a year later, with the same void, same habit and no control.

What will I do differently?
I am going to join the crowd. I am going to listen to those that have had success quitting, since I never have. I am going to practice some humility, live in the moment and be a novice absorbing every bit of wisdom you all choose to impart.

Maybe one day, IÂ’ll be the guy giving help to some newbie, but that day is far off. IÂ’m focusing on kicking a dirty and deadly habit IÂ’ve had as long as I can remember, and IÂ’ll do this by relying on the strength of this group 100%

[srans]

I was wondering what happened with king george here.

[dwbolto]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

Get on board and give us your word.

Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.

Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.

That was a good read. Enjoyed the video.. NOW QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!!!

First Post Roll done. Quit Like Fuck.

[srans]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

Get on board and give us your word.

Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.

Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.

That was a good read. Enjoyed the video.. NOW QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!!!

[dwbolto]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

Get on board and give us your word.

Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.

Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.

[mich 34]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

Get on board and give us your word.

Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.

[kkljinc]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

Get on board and give us your word.

[dwbolto]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.

[kkljinc]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this methodÂ…which was fine. Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”. The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule. This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit. I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here. If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters.

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk. Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip. It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me. It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.

[dwbolto]

My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this methodÂ…which was fine. Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”. The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule. This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit. I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here. If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters.

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk. Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip. It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me. It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!

[Coach Steve]

Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine.  We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob.  I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today.  That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.

DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.

DW, please do listen carefully to Evil. If it makes sense to you, quit all forms of nicotine and join us in our cold turkey approach. Statistically about 17% of new quitters here make it to 100 days quit vs about 2% if you go it alone. I don't know what the stats are for using NRTs...
Yes, there are a lot of raging assholes on this site, many of us have been addicts our entire adult lives and are still figuring out how to live without the lip turds. However we are extremely quit assholes and are proud of that. There is a ton of peer support here for quitters that want to go this way...

You won't be giving anything "serious thought" until you stop delivering nicotine into your system. That shit is controlling your brain. The Nic Bitch wants you to think we're a bunch of keyboard cowboys with nothing better to do with our lives. Well.....some of us are big time losers but that's beside the point.

Stop being a slave to nicotine, you'll never get away from it as long as it's in your system....I can guarantee you that.

WE Quit Like Fuck. Not You, Not I, WE. Drop the nicotine insurance plan, and post your Day 1 in July 2013. Those insurance fuckers only care about your premiums anyways.......

p.s. You sure are attracting a lot of attention for someone still using nicotine. That should answer any questions you might have about how much we care.

[T-Cell]

Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine.  We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob.  I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today.  That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.

DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.

DW, please do listen carefully to Evil. If it makes sense to you, quit all forms of nicotine and join us in our cold turkey approach. Statistically about 17% of new quitters here make it to 100 days quit vs about 2% if you go it alone. I don't know what the stats are for using NRTs...
Yes, there are a lot of raging assholes on this site, many of us have been addicts our entire adult lives and are still figuring out how to live without the lip turds. However we are extremely quit assholes and are proud of that. There is a ton of peer support here for quitters that want to go this way...

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Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine. We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob. I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today. That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.

DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.