18 year old ex-dipper

[Diesel2112]

If you haven't had one today then take it a step further and declare yourself quit. Ackowledge that you're an addict. Quit for you.

I am addicted to nicotine, but I have quit now. Goodbye vicious headaches and jaw aches. Goodbye yellow teeth and no fucking taste. Goodbye future road of many health problems. Hello freedom.

I guess you are welcoming all these wonderful things back? Pretty smart.

What happened? Answer the questions.

[Mthomas3824]

Sore, answer the three questions:

1. What happened?

2. Why did you choose to cave?

3. What are you going to do so that you will not choose to cave again?

Also... Maybe it's time you get your dad involved now.

Wow. First SoreThroat. Since you don't respect those that supported you (LionHeartedGirl) I will not respect that this is your domain. To LionHeartedGirl the addict can only quit for themselves. This cat is stupid in addiction.

He wants to dip but he doesn't want to disappoint. False he wants to dip and will surrender his integrity, sacrifice his word and do anything to put a dip in his mouth.

He is 18 and his reasons for the difficulty is shit. He can't chose to quit because he doesn't want to. Just like you can't chose to hold your breath forever and need a breath. His warped addicted mind doesn't believe he can live without it.

LHG - you are gold and see the light. Focus on those that see the light. Let this guy come back and answer the questions before you accept his promise.

Until then, someone should line out his name if he ever posts without your groups approval.

My two cents. From there do whatever you want. But Sore-throat, Know this, you are broken and nicotine isn't fixing you. You put that shit before relationships. Your words don't matter your actions tell the story. You can quit but not until you want freedom to chose again. YOU HAVE NO FREEDOM. You don't chose to dip, you have to dip. When you realize that, then you might want to quit.

Until then, just lie to your dad. He doesn't need to know that the can is in front of him in your life. You can't help it and he can't help you.

Enjoy your trap. 18 is a great time to quit but your trying to prove that your pride is stronger than your addictions. YOU DON'T GET IT. 'Finger' Can HUMPER!!!!!!

[LionHeartedGirl]

Sore, answer the three questions:

1. What happened?

2. Why did you choose to cave?

3. What are you going to do so that you will not choose to cave again?

Also... Maybe it's time you get your dad involved now.

[Mthomas3824]

Thanks be to all of you. It's good to have all the information from all of you have gone through it all already. I am going to wait to bring my dad into this. I respect all of your opinions and I understand that his support is very important. He already checks on me with it but I believe this is an evil I need to overcome with as much of my own strength as possible. I sure as hell don't want him to know that my will isn't strong enough to put it down for good. However, this is the place I will come when I'm cravin a lip full.

What takes true strength is admitting your weakness and seeking support. There is nothing strong or brave about being a "lone wolf" here, in your family or with your future spouse. What keeps you from coming clean with your dad is pride. And that's totally understandable but don't confuse pride and strength.

Humble yourself, get support, and then you will truly be strong.

Good job young man. You're very wise to take hold of this now.

Bumping this because you need to not only read again you need to understand this.

This isn't about will. Addicts are slaves. Your brain will overpower you into thinking you can't be quit forever. If you truly, truly want to quit for you what is the harm in joining a group and promising them you will fight with them?

Your addicted mind is tricking you so that you will surrender. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but your mind tricks you to cave. Get support. Grizzly25 just posted 500 days quit.

Look at all the experience here. Are you wiser? You may be smart but you don't have the quit experience under your belt.

Humble acceptance and following this program will make you victorious over your addiction. Yes some people have quit on their own but most cave. This site has a better success ratio than individual quitters.

I promise you line up 100 individual quitters doing this on their own
Then line up 100 quitters on KTC.

What are the odds? Play the odds on this. War on nicotine is to be won. Why wouldn't you play the odds to your favor? That just seems smart.

Welcome to KTC. It is a great journey and you can help many while on your walk to freedom over vice.

[Diesel2112]

Smashing tins with lead pipe cruelty. That's what goes on here. Nobody does it alone. We do it together and sometimes we use tough love to bash the mother fucker in the teeth. Other times we use big bear hugs.

You don't want to bring your Dad in yet, don't.

Right now just worry about keeping nic free one day at a time.

You got questions, you're pissed, you're craving, your crying, you're ragging...come here. We will help.

You're pounding off to porn...cum wherever you might be, not here.

All jokes aside...just keep that shit out your lip!!!!

[Jbob]

If you haven't had one today then take it a step further and declare yourself quit. Ackowledge that you're an addict. Quit for you.

I am addicted to nicotine, but I have quit now. Goodbye vicious headaches and jaw aches. Goodbye yellow teeth and no fucking taste. Goodbye future road of many health problems. Hello freedom.

18 - all you have to do is not dip today - that's it - just today - dont worry about yestereday or tomorrow - get your ass quit for today - then deal with tomorrow when it shows up. Use the numbers you get from the other quitters - thats the only way i know how to do this - one on one - dip has always kicked my ass - but with the support of all these quitters - we kick the piss out of dip on a daily basis -

peace young dude - and long life ! Jbob /jeffc

[SoreThroat]

If you haven't had one today then take it a step further and declare yourself quit. Ackowledge that you're an addict. Quit for you.

I am addicted to nicotine, but I have quit now. Goodbye vicious headaches and jaw aches. Goodbye yellow teeth and no fucking taste. Goodbye future road of many health problems. Hello freedom.

[Evil_Won]

reat opening statement.  Now the real story will be told by your actions. 

You sound like you are quitting out of guilt.  That concerns me.  I'm pretty sure when you typed this, you had a dip in your mouth.  This is a nicotine free site.  You are welcome to join us but only when you are clean. 

Please respect this site.  This is a site of quitters asking for support.  This is our quit, sanctuary, temple, holy ground. 

You are welcome but the nic bitch can kiss my ass and die.  So please, if you are serious, go flush the garbage that holds you captive and prevents you from being honorable to your dad. 

Post roll, keep your promise today.  If you wake tomorrow, repeat. 

Until then, I just read a guilty addicts confession and what he is going to do, not what he is doing.  I will validate that you are an addict because it takes one to know one.  Today is your day to quit.  Actions not words will show if you really want to quit for you.   

You need to do this for you.  You must want to do this.  Honor and integrity comes when you stop thinking you can quit for your dad.  You have to want this. 

Hope you are here to join and support us in our fight but at the very least, spit it out now and whenever you are on this site to show your respect for our battles we are winning today.  (Quitters have earned and deserve your respect.)  No nic while on this site.  PLEASE.

I am quitting for my own health. The thought of the deceit to my father helps in this decision to quit though. I did not have a dip in when I wrote that, nor did I take one today.

If you haven't had one today then take it a step further and declare yourself quit. Ackowledge that you're an addict. Quit for you.

[LionHeartedGirl]

Thanks be to all of you. It's good to have all the information from all of you have gone through it all already. I am going to wait to bring my dad into this. I respect all of your opinions and I understand that his support is very important. He already checks on me with it but I believe this is an evil I need to overcome with as much of my own strength as possible. I sure as hell don't want him to know that my will isn't strong enough to put it down for good. However, this is the place I will come when I'm cravin a lip full.

What takes true strength is admitting your weakness and seeking support. There is nothing strong or brave about being a "lone wolf" here, in your family or with your future spouse. What keeps you from coming clean with your dad is pride. And that's totally understandable but don't confuse pride and strength.

Humble yourself, get support, and then you will truly be strong.

Good job young man. You're very wise to take hold of this now.

[SoreThroat]

reat opening statement. Now the real story will be told by your actions.

You sound like you are quitting out of guilt. That concerns me. I'm pretty sure when you typed this, you had a dip in your mouth. This is a nicotine free site. You are welcome to join us but only when you are clean.

Please respect this site. This is a site of quitters asking for support. This is our quit, sanctuary, temple, holy ground.

You are welcome but the nic bitch can kiss my ass and die. So please, if you are serious, go flush the garbage that holds you captive and prevents you from being honorable to your dad.

Post roll, keep your promise today. If you wake tomorrow, repeat.

Until then, I just read a guilty addicts confession and what he is going to do, not what he is doing. I will validate that you are an addict because it takes one to know one. Today is your day to quit. Actions not words will show if you really want to quit for you.

You need to do this for you. You must want to do this. Honor and integrity comes when you stop thinking you can quit for your dad. You have to want this.

Hope you are here to join and support us in our fight but at the very least, spit it out now and whenever you are on this site to show your respect for our battles we are winning today. (Quitters have earned and deserve your respect.) No nic while on this site. PLEASE.

I am quitting for my own health. The thought of the deceit to my father helps in this decision to quit though. I did not have a dip in when I wrote that, nor did I take one today.

[SoreThroat]

Thanks be to all of you. It's good to have all the information from all of you have gone through it all already. I am going to wait to bring my dad into this. I respect all of your opinions and I understand that his support is very important. He already checks on me with it but I believe this is an evil I need to overcome with as much of my own strength as possible. I sure as hell don't want him to know that my will isn't strong enough to put it down for good. However, this is the place I will come when I'm cravin a lip full.

[Mthomas3824]

Great opening statement. Now the real story will be told by your actions.

You sound like you are quitting out of guilt. That concerns me. I'm pretty sure when you typed this, you had a dip in your mouth. This is a nicotine free site. You are welcome to join us but only when you are clean.

Please respect this site. This is a site of quitters asking for support. This is our quit, sanctuary, temple, holy ground.

You are welcome but the nic bitch can kiss my ass and die. So please, if you are serious, go flush the garbage that holds you captive and prevents you from being honorable to your dad.

Post roll, keep your promise today. If you wake tomorrow, repeat.

Until then, I just read a guilty addicts confession and what he is going to do, not what he is doing. I will validate that you are an addict because it takes one to know one. Today is your day to quit. Actions not words will show if you really want to quit for you.

You need to do this for you. You must want to do this. Honor and integrity comes when you stop thinking you can quit for your dad. You have to want this.

Hope you are here to join and support us in our fight but at the very least, spit it out now and whenever you are on this site to show your respect for our battles we are winning today. (Quitters have earned and deserve your respect.) No nic while on this site. PLEASE.

[Evil_Won]

Sigh....

What if tomorrow never comes? May as well die a quitter today. Flush it now if your life is worth saving. Don't throw it in the garbage where you can pull it out later. Dump it in the shitter and flush it. Then, shit in the can so you aren't tempted to run run finger inside it for a few shards of dip.

Wake up man.

[JRizzle]

Good to have you in the Sep quit group.

You asked "Why haven't I had the willpower and fuckin fortitude to put this poison down?" I have a couple of suggestions:

1) Nicotine is VERY addictive. While you try to work through the fog and cravings these first few days, check out the killthecan.org website and read up on the characteristics of the poison. It's tough. If it weren't then a website like this wouldn't be needed

2) You haven't had community or accountability when you've embarked upon a quit before. This is VERY important. There may be a few people that can just decide on a whim to quit, but the vast majority of addicts (myself first and foremost) need to surround themselves with a support network and people that will call them out.

3) You need to hit a moment of clarity. I don't know as much about this (maybe you can read up on it during your fog over the first couple days) but I know in my life I had thought about quitting, tried quitting, etc. but looking back each time I was already thinking about caving even when I vowed to quit. At some point you just decide "I quit at this moment. I'm choose not to dip today." And you realize at that moment that being quit is a daily, hourly, moment-by-moment choice. You can't worry about being quit tomorrow or a year from now. Just take today. Make today a good day to be quit. Because you know what? It is.

So today, at this moment, I choose to be quit with you.

[jayd41]

Congrats...the fact that it has "only been five years" doesn't mean shit. After a few days at the ripe old age of 13 you were an addict so if you look at like that you've been an addict for 5 years...thats a long time for anyone...now the hard part...you'll always be an addict. The decision you made when you were way to young to make it (just like everyone else here) caused this addiction...now you make a choice everyday, one day at a time, to be an addict that dips or an addict that doesn't.

I would also advise you to bring your dad on this site...there is a link to show you what you should expect as you quit each day, and a link to show those that aren't addicts what we go through to get this shit out of our lives...i bit the bullet and told my wife that i had been lying to for a few months about being quit, yes it was hard but now she is my biggest supporter because she somewhat gets it now.

We are here for you.....some are harsher than others but they all mean well for the most part...congrats again...quit on