I just have to quit!

[rdad]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip.  He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed.  His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap.  I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this.  Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow.  I'll be back then.

Totally appreciate the mental gymnastics you're going through in terms of "picking your day" -- and I'm the last man to judge someone else's intentions, ability to execute, and to maintain a commitment, as it relates to dipping. That being said, I went through the same thought process far too many times to count -- picking a particular day or event in the future that was somehow more special than the present day. And every single time that "quit day" arrived, I could easily come up with a new date several days / weeks / months in the future that was even better -- and it was entirely because I had a tin of Copie available, and was too blinded by the addiction to see the reality.

KTC has had a profound impact on me, and one newbie's advice to another is to read the stories, threads, etc., however anonymously that makes you comfortable. Again, the last thing I want to do is sound like a nag -- but you took a huge step by bothering to figure out how to post a couple lines. That's significant, and would love to see you embrace it. Good luck, and hope to see you in the May 2014 Quit Group soon.

Cmoney
Are you reading this thread carefully? I did and it solidified my quit even more than it already was. Do not ignore the signs and the words of those below. You need to read Wt57,s whole thread. Powerful stuff. You have been given sage advice from some monster quitters. Get busy quitting please! NOW!

[Krusty]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip. He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed. His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap. I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this. Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow. I'll be back then.

Totally appreciate the mental gymnastics you're going through in terms of "picking your day" -- and I'm the last man to judge someone else's intentions, ability to execute, and to maintain a commitment, as it relates to dipping. That being said, I went through the same thought process far too many times to count -- picking a particular day or event in the future that was somehow more special than the present day. And every single time that "quit day" arrived, I could easily come up with a new date several days / weeks / months in the future that was even better -- and it was entirely because I had a tin of Copie available, and was too blinded by the addiction to see the reality.

KTC has had a profound impact on me, and one newbie's advice to another is to read the stories, threads, etc., however anonymously that makes you comfortable. Again, the last thing I want to do is sound like a nag -- but you took a huge step by bothering to figure out how to post a couple lines. That's significant, and would love to see you embrace it. Good luck, and hope to see you in the May 2014 Quit Group soon.

[traumagnet]

Here is one for you to chew on: Drop back a few pages in my thread to see the responses very good responses.


I have been having an incident/event play over in my mind since the beginning of July. I was at a waterpark with my son and noticed several native males were there too with fresh chest wounds. I asked one did you just do the Sundance he replied yes. I don't know if everyone is familiar with the Sundance but the short n dirty version is you pierce the chest skin all the way through insert a stick or eagle talons through the hole and attach ropes to them that are tied to a tree or pole. In some native cultures that do the Sundance you have to tear the sticks out of your chest by leaning back until the skin rips. Well anyway I noticed an older man with them and he had a washcloth hanging out of his mouth. I got closer and I figured out what it was. He had his jaw removed from cancer.

He was proud enough of his heritage and could tolerate extreme pain but could not muster enough strength to quit chewing. He was still dipping and going down the slides with a washcloth in his mouth to keep in the dip and cover his gaping hole aka a mouth.

To this day I cannot get rid of the image it just makes me want to puke. I started gaging just typing this. If that image isn't enough to keep you quit I don't know what is.

[Canvasback]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip. He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed. His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap. I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this. Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow. I'll be back then.

When I hear someone say, "I like dip," I completely understand what that feels like. I liked dip too. It was a huge inconvenience, it was nasty, it was killing me slowly, it was expensive, it was a wedge between my wife and I, it caused me to spend less time with my friends and family, it made my truck smell nasty, etc, etc, etc.

But I liked it?

Now that the nic is out of my system, I HATE IT. I never want it back in my life.

That is YOUR ADDICT BRAIN talking, not you. You dont like dip (you are addicted to nicotine) and 72 hours from now, when its our of your bloodstream and out of your life, you will understand what I mean.

PM me for support, buddy, Ill be there for you. Its hard, but you CAN do it.

[slug.go]

People tend to 'awfulize' things. Quit, it isn't as bad as you think. But if you continue to dip, it could be worse than you could possibly imagine. What is the downside to quitting? What is the upside to dipping? Which outcome is worse?

[Mogul]

Either you kill it, or it will kill you. Your choice. It's really that simple. You just make the decision once and for all. We will help you get through the bitches tricks to suck you back in but you must quit for you.

Mogul

[Wt57]

Hey money, I dipped for over 4 decades and was gonna quit after every can, every new year, next month, always later even after I started losing teeth. Well I lost 8 teeth before I finally quit and 2 since in 670 days. The power that this addiction holds on our body and brain is unbelievably strong. Back in my intro I told about setting daily with a hunting buddy as he died from oral cancer. He had a hole from his nose to ear, and wore a Kotex over the hole after his wife packed it with Copenhagen. I sat there and watched him and packed my fatty. Even after he died I continued for another couple decades. I hope like hell you quit NOW! Your life depends upon it.

[Ginet]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip.  He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed.  His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap.  I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this.  Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow.  I'll be back then.

Why not quit today if you're so scared?

Who knows if that next dip you put in is the one that starts the cancer process and you end up with your bottom jaw removed?

Fear, sadness, worry, doubt, etc...are all emotions you can overcome.

Regret is one you cannot. You have a feeling something bad may happen if you dont stop? What if you're right and that something bad starts NOW?

WTF...you have a real life example of this nasty shit and you can't commit today? I am 36 started at 12 and quit like a man 199 days ago. As soon as you tell the weed that you are done with it controlling your life come on back and quit.

My advice is that today is a day, an even better day to be quit.

What if waiting to pick a day was the wrong choice? Quit. Now. That experience with the man who dipped was put in your path for a reason. When are you going to do something about it? You found the right place to help you. Now you gotta quit. Now.

[Pinched]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip.  He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed.  His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap.  I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this.  Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow.  I'll be back then.

Why not quit today if you're so scared?

Who knows if that next dip you put in is the one that starts the cancer process and you end up with your bottom jaw removed?

Fear, sadness, worry, doubt, etc...are all emotions you can overcome.

Regret is one you cannot. You have a feeling something bad may happen if you dont stop? What if you're right and that something bad starts NOW?

WTF...you have a real life example of this nasty shit and you can't commit today? I am 36 started at 12 and quit like a man 199 days ago. As soon as you tell the weed that you are done with it controlling your life come on back and quit.

My advice is that today is a day, an even better day to be quit.

[Diesel2112]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip. He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed. His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap. I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this. Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow. I'll be back then.

Why not quit today if you're so scared?

Who knows if that next dip you put in is the one that starts the cancer process and you end up with your bottom jaw removed?

Fear, sadness, worry, doubt, etc...are all emotions you can overcome.

Regret is one you cannot. You have a feeling something bad may happen if you dont stop? What if you're right and that something bad starts NOW?

[Cmoney]

I did some work not to long ago for a man who used to dip. He doesnt dip anymore because he got cancer and had his bottom jaw removed. His face has been haunting me ever since. I dont want to even lose a tooth from this crap. I have dipped since I was 14 and I have this feeling that something bad may happen to me if I dont stop dipping. Im 37 now so ive dipped for about 23 years. I gotta stop this. Its stupid and nasty to others but I like it. I dont want to lose my jaw or teeth so I guess I dont like dip after all. I will pick a quit day tommorrow. I'll be back then.