Hi all, new to this. I'm tired of having to excuse myself to spit, or having a dip in when it's not appropriate... If I don't quit, I'm afraid the poison will kill me in a way that brings no honor to my name. I am fairly certain my death will come before my daughters graduate from high school, then some other man will give them away at their weddings. Shame on me, shame on big tobacco, and shame on the older friends whose influences were influential on a weaker, younger me... Most of all, shame on me! I look forward to having a group to join to help this go more smoothly than my last quit which was 7 months cold turkey. The stress of a friend's death made me feel too week to stay away. Thanks for letting me in.