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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2016, 12:29:00 PM »
Quote from: CavMan83
Quote from: Ginet
My number is in your message box......upper right hand corner.....dial it, text it.....just use it. Think I don't get it? Think I won't understand how hard it is? I've used almost as long as you've been alive. I live with an active user. Nothing gets in the way of my quit. You can have my number. I will help you. You just need to use it.
So I just sent you this email.... I wanted to put it here so you could have it to refer back to.... If you don't want it here, tell me and I can make it go "poof".

Ms. Britt,

Please excuse me if this seems a bit direct (that's just my nature). By way of introduction, my name is Joel. I am a reformed Copenhagen addict of nearly FORTY Years. I am writing to tell you that you CAN quit dipping. I know because I did. Twice, actually, but that's another story. I also want you to know that I know how you feel, like you're about to DIE if you don't get a dip. I know because I lived through it. I also want you to know that those feelings don't last forever. They gradually subside. I don't know if they ever completely go away, but they get to the point where you can deal with them a whole lot easier.

You see, for as long as you've been dipping, you've been bathing your brain in a nicotine bath; if you're an average dipper, you've been ingesting enough of that poison to kill a small rodent on a daily basis. Nicotine is more addictive than cocaine, and your brain built up additional dopamine receptors to take up all that drug. When you stop, you're actually starving those dopamine receptors. Think of them as crazed demonic beasts running around in your head, jumping up and down on every last nerve while they are frantically looking for their next "fix". That's why the craves are so horrible and terrible and you feel like you're going to die. But trust me. You won't die. I have searched the internet extensively and cannot find a single documented medical case where nicotine withdrawal has ever actually killed anyone. It is just really, really uncomfortable (but you already knew that!!)

I'm not a psychology major, but I do know there is something about promising what are (at first) a complete group of strangers that you won't use nicotine that day (if you are a person of integrity and your word actually matters to you), but it does have a profound effect on keeping you quit. And those strangers? Well, you get to know them and share contact info and texts, and emails, and believe it or not, but they become an extended family of sorts. MUCH MORE than your so-called "Facebook Friends". The reason? That common bond, (the brotherhood) that you are ALL kicking nicotine's ass TOGETHER.

So, come on back. Get in a routine where you wake up, post roll, then go about your life. This place works; if you don't want to believe me, ask ANY of the thousands of folks that post their daily quit count here. They'll tell you it works. Because it does. The ball is now squarely in your court, young lady. I'm hoping you make the right decision.

Respectfully,

JDW
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[edit....and oh BTW, that Bad--Ass Lady of Quit I quoted when replying in your intro? She was the VERY FIRST person in KTC who texted me when my quit was in it's infancy. I never did tell her how much that impressed me and how sometimes I think of her as my big sister in quit!!! Love you lots, Ms. G!] :wub:
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2016, 08:45:00 AM »
Quote from: Ginet
My number is in your message box......upper right hand corner.....dial it, text it.....just use it. Think I don't get it? Think I won't understand how hard it is? I've used almost as long as you've been alive. I live with an active user. Nothing gets in the way of my quit. You can have my number. I will help you. You just need to use it.
So I just sent you this email.... I wanted to put it here so you could have it to refer back to.... If you don't want it here, tell me and I can make it go "poof".

Ms. Britt,

Please excuse me if this seems a bit direct (that's just my nature). By way of introduction, my name is Joel. I am a reformed Copenhagen addict of nearly FORTY Years. I am writing to tell you that you CAN quit dipping. I know because I did. Twice, actually, but that's another story. I also want you to know that I know how you feel, like you're about to DIE if you don't get a dip. I know because I lived through it. I also want you to know that those feelings don't last forever. They gradually subside. I don't know if they ever completely go away, but they get to the point where you can deal with them a whole lot easier.

You see, for as long as you've been dipping, you've been bathing your brain in a nicotine bath; if you're an average dipper, you've been ingesting enough of that poison to kill a small rodent on a daily basis. Nicotine is more addictive than cocaine, and your brain built up additional dopamine receptors to take up all that drug. When you stop, you're actually starving those dopamine receptors. Think of them as crazed demonic beasts running around in your head, jumping up and down on every last nerve while they are frantically looking for their next "fix". That's why the craves are so horrible and terrible and you feel like you're going to die. But trust me. You won't die. I have searched the internet extensively and cannot find a single documented medical case where nicotine withdrawal has ever actually killed anyone. It is just really, really uncomfortable (but you already knew that!!)

I'm not a psychology major, but I do know there is something about promising what are (at first) a complete group of strangers that you won't use nicotine that day (if you are a person of integrity and your word actually matters to you), but it does have a profound effect on keeping you quit. And those strangers? Well, you get to know them and share contact info and texts, and emails, and believe it or not, but they become an extended family of sorts. MUCH MORE than your so-called "Facebook Friends". The reason? That common bond, (the brotherhood) that you are ALL kicking nicotine's ass TOGETHER.

So, come on back. Get in a routine where you wake up, post roll, then go about your life. This place works; if you don't want to believe me, ask ANY of the thousands of folks that post their daily quit count here. They'll tell you it works. Because it does. The ball is now squarely in your court, young lady. I'm hoping you make the right decision.

Respectfully,

JDW
AKA CavMan83

[edit....and oh BTW, that Bad--Ass Lady of Quit I quoted when replying in your intro? She was the VERY FIRST person in KTC who texted me when my quit was in it's infancy. I never did tell her how much that impressed me and how sometimes I think of her as my big sister in quit!!! Love you lots, Ms. G!] :wub:

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2016, 01:04:00 AM »
My number is in your message box......upper right hand corner.....dial it, text it.....just use it. Think I don't get it? Think I won't understand how hard it is? I've used almost as long as you've been alive. I live with an active user. Nothing gets in the way of my quit. You can have my number. I will help you. You just need to use it.
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person who is doing it. ~ Chinese Proverb
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2016, 01:13:00 PM »
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Where are you MamaBritt?
Use the digits you have to text.
Get on here and post roll today.
Don't make your youngins ask that later in there life!
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2016, 01:08:00 PM »
Where are you MamaBritt?
Use the digits you have to text.
Get on here and post roll today.
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2016, 10:41:00 AM »
One day at a time, mama. That's how we do it. Anyone can quit for a day. You can do it. Quit today, then come back tomorrow. We'll do it again.

I have this picture in my mind of the movie "Blazing Saddles" where Mongo hits a horse with a punch and knocks him out cold. That picture came to mind when you said you hit a deer. Nic rage can be really bad, but there is absolutely no excuse to go back to the nic bitch. (The underlined phrase is a link to the movie clip.)

Bad things happen to a lot of people who never used tobacco, and they don't go buy a can and stuff it in their lip. Life is better lived nic free!
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2016, 10:26:00 AM »
You got this girl. Baby needs her momma is right.

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2016, 07:57:00 AM »
Hi Mama,

Welcome to the group. The only I can add to what has already been said is make sure you drink plenty of fruit juice during your quit. I prefer Orange Juice.

I read an article on this site that explained that when you use nicotine, your body releases sugars in the brain. This creates a feeling of pleasure when you dip. You lose this when you quit.

Drinking the fruit juice replaces those sugars and makes quitting a bit easier.

The other thing I recommend is to control what you focus on. If you keep thinking about what you are quitting, it will make the quit harder.

Distract your brain and focus on everything but the quit. Exercise when you get the jitters and the nagging muscle pain.

The quit will be hard but you are tough and you will fight through this.

I am envious that you are quitting at the age of 28. I waited until I was 59. Be quit and be proud.

I quit with you today.

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 12:29:00 AM »
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Hey yall,
Glad I found this page! I'm 28 years old and a Mama! I've been dipping since I was about 16. I've always dipped Grizzly and usually dip about 1-2 cans a day...I love it, but I hate it. Only quit once cold turkey when I was pregnant with my first and that lasted about 2 months...then I hit a deer. I want to quit sooo bad. I've come close, like from a few hours without to a day, but my withdrawals are scary. I get really angry with a short temper, shakes, all of it. It's bad...I'd appreciate any words of advice because I'm so ready to not have this taking over my life anymore...thanks yall!
Knuckle up and let's do this Mama! You have a few weeks of tough days ahead of you but getting past those days is so worth it! On the other side is freedom and a great maintenance plan. :)

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2016, 11:37:00 PM »
Yep. All that Lady G just said pretty much sums it up. Great words of wisdom. Glad you found KTC. Your in the right place. Read every thing you can on this site. Glean from the knowledge and experiences of others. It will make your quit stronger. Take up every offer of support sent your way. Reach out to your fellow members in your Quit group. Get digits ( phone number ). Use them. Daily. All day. A lot of the initial quit really sucks. But also we have fun going through this together. Take up Ginet on her offer. Save her number and shoot her a text. She's a bad ass rock solid quitter. And she's not the only bad ass Lady Quitter either. Hook up with Chickdip who is also a bad ass Lady Quitter. Your in great company here. And that along with some hardcore accountability is the magic of KTC. Congrats. Your doing it right already. And as Donald Trump would say, " Your Quit is gonna be HUGE !!! "

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2016, 11:12:00 PM »
Hi Mama. Welcome to day one!

Everything you are feeling is completely normal. It is addiction at it's worst. No worries though. Each of us had to be a day one too! This place works. Quitting is hard, but the steps are simple.
1- post roll - make the promise to yourself and everyone here that you will not use nicotine in any form for todayÂ…all you get to control is TODAY.
2- keep your word - don't put that shit in your mouth
3- do steps 1 and 2 again tomorrow.

Read everything you can on this site. Don't just look at the words, but truly listen to the message. You have so many hands held out to help you. All you have to do is grab oneÂ…Â…..any one.

I'm gonna send you my numberÂ…..aka a lifeline. Now, your phone will probably hold hundreds of numbers but they don't do anything if you don't use them.

Remember, each one of us have been where you are right now. We get it. We will help you. Wait until I tell you about day five, when I almost punched the barista and you will love the story about when my husband called to ask me to stop and pick up a can for him. OMGÂ…..it is classic.

Nothing should get in the way of your quit. Make it the most important thing to you. It has to be in order for you to fight for your life.

Go to the chat room. Awesome place to vent and scream with others who get it and will wait it out with you.

You got this young ladyÂ…..and I'm quit with you. 28 huh? Damn. I wish I was smart enough to say enough when I was your age!

Watch for my number and until I hear from you, I will just be here, quitting like a girl.

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2016, 08:31:00 PM »
Delighted to see you on roll for day 1! Listen to the bad ass quitters above, stay strong, and beat nicotine.

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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2016, 06:34:00 PM »
keep up the posting roll every day, early, and then keep your word.
lots of support here if you use it.
you count on yourself first, you want your quit more than anyone, and you will be successful.
Use your tools of quit. Stay strong. Stay connected.
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2016, 11:11:00 AM »
My only advise is to post roll and throw all cans/pouches away right now. Quitting is hard but can't be harder then childbirth, so do something good for yourself and post roll!
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Re: Need Some Encouragement...
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2016, 09:41:00 AM »
There are more than a few bad ass lady quitters here. I'm only 123 days in to my quit, my first few weeks were extremely difficult, but you know what, it went fast and now I'm quit and so glad that I'm doing everything I can to stay quit. I make a promise every day to stay quit and you can too. Nicotine no longer has a hold on me. Make a promise to quit, post roll every day.