Intro

[schaef418]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.

Bump.

As you near the HOF...just wanted to bump this to the front as a reminder to remember where you started. Quit on, November brother.

[slug.go]

7 days down - that's huge!

Someone once told me: don't make any major decisions (financial, emotional, etc) early on in your quit. That heavy fog from the first few days is starting to lift and you're suddenly looking at the world sans dip-colored lenses for the first time in a long time. It can be eye-opening to say the least. Couple that with the intense mood swings and you've got a recipe for potentially rash decisions.

Go ahead and do what you need to do today so you aren't actively lining up future fires to put out. FWIW: If the wife is asking for therapy, by all means abide. The therapist will be understanding when you tell them that you're in the early throes of quitting, and that will enable them to better help you and your wife.

I quit with you today.

You have really good point and one I can definitely see myself getting in trouble with. I tend to have very little patience for the "slow and steady route". For now I'm going to simply address things as they come. The important point is that I be honest with myself and others and actually face these things as they come. I've hit that point with my nic habit, now I just have to apply that to other facets of my life as they come up. But as much as I hate it, I know this is going to be a one day at a time deal.

Just today, brother. Sleep, wake and repeat.

[Shubster]

7 days down - that's huge!

Someone once told me: don't make any major decisions (financial, emotional, etc) early on in your quit. That heavy fog from the first few days is starting to lift and you're suddenly looking at the world sans dip-colored lenses for the first time in a long time. It can be eye-opening to say the least. Couple that with the intense mood swings and you've got a recipe for potentially rash decisions.

Go ahead and do what you need to do today so you aren't actively lining up future fires to put out. FWIW: If the wife is asking for therapy, by all means abide. The therapist will be understanding when you tell them that you're in the early throes of quitting, and that will enable them to better help you and your wife.

I quit with you today.

You have really good point and one I can definitely see myself getting in trouble with. I tend to have very little patience for the "slow and steady route". For now I'm going to simply address things as they come. The important point is that I be honest with myself and others and actually face these things as they come. I've hit that point with my nic habit, now I just have to apply that to other facets of my life as they come up. But as much as I hate it, I know this is going to be a one day at a time deal.

[DirtyHarry10]

So I'm at 7 days dip free and that's great, however I'm experiencing a side effect I hadn't counted on. First off some background, I have to own up to the fact that I'm not a guy who like to deal with his problems. I like to kick that can down the road and then I'm really good at forgetting the can existed in the first place. So now 7 days into my quit I'm finding those old cans falling out of sky all over the damned place. Problems with my marriage, problems with work, problems that I have with myself, all of which I've either buried or avoided for years. It doesn't make sense but it's like the damn dip was a twig holding all this shit off my head and now I'm up to my ears in it.

Long story short, right now I'm a mess and would like nothing better to do than run and hide and pretend everything is okay until I start to believe it again. But this morning as I was going through the list of things I *should* do today but really wanted to avoid , I finally reached my breaking point and and made a commitment to myself.

I will not stain any more of my tomorrows with today's shit.

This means I man up today and admit my problems and start to fix them. And if that entails therapy and talking about things that I've tried to bury so be it. It means that I am quit and will stay quit. It means that when I have problems and need help, I with deal with them and ask for help. Not pretend to be strong and ignore it.

This isn't entirely quit related and as I re-read this I sound like a whiny bitch. But I'm going to post this up anyways because I want it official and out where I can't pretend it didn't happen. Thanks for giving me a place where I can finally hold myself accountable, it turns out I needed that for a lot more than just the can.

Love the post bro. You are 7 days quit which is bad ass! You vent, we can take it. Always remember a problem + nicotine = 2 problems. I quit with you today.

That is a damn good post. So many of us hid behind the damn can. Once it's gone we must face reality. Beware that it's easy to try to replace the can with another 'something' to hide behind.

Great post. I am only 8 days ahead of you and it is still rough. Trust me when I say that after the fog starts to lift, you will see things differently. While I'm not a 100% out of the fog, it has cleared up enough to put a some things into perspective. The one piece of advice that I will leave you with is this. If you love your wife and your marriage, fight for it. If you care about yourself, fight to correct your issues. If you like your job, fight through this and do your best. Remember, all the crap you are starting to see now was masked by something that YOU were doing to yourself. Your wife, boss, friends, nobody else made the choice to lip that shit. Realizing you are an addict was step one. Realizing you have other issues is a whole separate ballgame. Either way, you have to fight like hell to get through them. I will fight through it with you one day at a time. PM me if you want to swap digits and talk further. I have dealt or are dealing with a lot of the same things.

[Tuco]

7 days down - that's huge!

Someone once told me: don't make any major decisions (financial, emotional, etc) early on in your quit. That heavy fog from the first few days is starting to lift and you're suddenly looking at the world sans dip-colored lenses for the first time in a long time. It can be eye-opening to say the least. Couple that with the intense mood swings and you've got a recipe for potentially rash decisions.

Go ahead and do what you need to do today so you aren't actively lining up future fires to put out. FWIW: If the wife is asking for therapy, by all means abide. The therapist will be understanding when you tell them that you're in the early throes of quitting, and that will enable them to better help you and your wife.

I quit with you today.

[Wt57]

So I'm at 7 days dip free and that's great, however I'm experiencing a side effect I hadn't counted on. First off some background, I have to own up to the fact that I'm not a guy who like to deal with his problems. I like to kick that can down the road and then I'm really good at forgetting the can existed in the first place. So now 7 days into my quit I'm finding those old cans falling out of sky all over the damned place. Problems with my marriage, problems with work, problems that I have with myself, all of which I've either buried or avoided for years. It doesn't make sense but it's like the damn dip was a twig holding all this shit off my head and now I'm up to my ears in it.

Long story short, right now I'm a mess and would like nothing better to do than run and hide and pretend everything is okay until I start to believe it again. But this morning as I was going through the list of things I *should* do today but really wanted to avoid , I finally reached my breaking point and and made a commitment to myself.

I will not stain any more of my tomorrows with today's shit.

This means I man up today and admit my problems and start to fix them. And if that entails therapy and talking about things that I've tried to bury so be it. It means that I am quit and will stay quit. It means that when I have problems and need help, I with deal with them and ask for help. Not pretend to be strong and ignore it.

This isn't entirely quit related and as I re-read this I sound like a whiny bitch. But I'm going to post this up anyways because I want it official and out where I can't pretend it didn't happen. Thanks for giving me a place where I can finally hold myself accountable, it turns out I needed that for a lot more than just the can.

Love the post bro. You are 7 days quit which is bad ass! You vent, we can take it. Always remember a problem + nicotine = 2 problems. I quit with you today.

That is a damn good post. So many of us hid behind the damn can. Once it's gone we must face reality. Beware that it's easy to try to replace the can with another 'something' to hide behind.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

So I'm at 7 days dip free and that's great, however I'm experiencing a side effect I hadn't counted on. First off some background, I have to own up to the fact that I'm not a guy who like to deal with his problems. I like to kick that can down the road and then I'm really good at forgetting the can existed in the first place. So now 7 days into my quit I'm finding those old cans falling out of sky all over the damned place. Problems with my marriage, problems with work, problems that I have with myself, all of which I've either buried or avoided for years. It doesn't make sense but it's like the damn dip was a twig holding all this shit off my head and now I'm up to my ears in it.

Long story short, right now I'm a mess and would like nothing better to do than run and hide and pretend everything is okay until I start to believe it again. But this morning as I was going through the list of things I *should* do today but really wanted to avoid , I finally reached my breaking point and and made a commitment to myself.

I will not stain any more of my tomorrows with today's shit.

This means I man up today and admit my problems and start to fix them. And if that entails therapy and talking about things that I've tried to bury so be it. It means that I am quit and will stay quit. It means that when I have problems and need help, I with deal with them and ask for help. Not pretend to be strong and ignore it.

This isn't entirely quit related and as I re-read this I sound like a whiny bitch. But I'm going to post this up anyways because I want it official and out where I can't pretend it didn't happen. Thanks for giving me a place where I can finally hold myself accountable, it turns out I needed that for a lot more than just the can.

Love the post bro. You are 7 days quit which is bad ass! You vent, we can take it. Always remember a problem + nicotine = 2 problems. I quit with you today.

Great post bro. I totally hear you. I was in your shoes early last November. It is imperative that you do this one day at a time. You need to tackle problems as your strength allows. You need to NOT dwell on past mistakes. You need to enjoy each new day of freedom. Don't get caught slogging through past mistakes. March forward with your head held high and feel powerful due to your decision to break the chains of nicotine. Tackle your problems with vigor and a willingness to fail. Nicotine made you forget your problems, it made you scared to face the world. Now that you've quit nicotine, you can do fucking anything. You are a free man. A free man who is happier when he wakes up in the morning, because you're not immediately getting your fix. You don't need that shit anymore and you never fucking needed it.

I quit with you today, brother. Let's kick the shit out of nicotine together, and enjoy each new day. Each day has tremendous value. Remember that when you wake up in the morning.

[Thumblewort]

So I'm at 7 days dip free and that's great, however I'm experiencing a side effect I hadn't counted on. First off some background, I have to own up to the fact that I'm not a guy who like to deal with his problems. I like to kick that can down the road and then I'm really good at forgetting the can existed in the first place. So now 7 days into my quit I'm finding those old cans falling out of sky all over the damned place. Problems with my marriage, problems with work, problems that I have with myself, all of which I've either buried or avoided for years. It doesn't make sense but it's like the damn dip was a twig holding all this shit off my head and now I'm up to my ears in it.

Long story short, right now I'm a mess and would like nothing better to do than run and hide and pretend everything is okay until I start to believe it again. But this morning as I was going through the list of things I *should* do today but really wanted to avoid , I finally reached my breaking point and and made a commitment to myself.

I will not stain any more of my tomorrows with today's shit.

This means I man up today and admit my problems and start to fix them. And if that entails therapy and talking about things that I've tried to bury so be it. It means that I am quit and will stay quit. It means that when I have problems and need help, I with deal with them and ask for help. Not pretend to be strong and ignore it.

This isn't entirely quit related and as I re-read this I sound like a whiny bitch. But I'm going to post this up anyways because I want it official and out where I can't pretend it didn't happen. Thanks for giving me a place where I can finally hold myself accountable, it turns out I needed that for a lot more than just the can.

Love the post bro. You are 7 days quit which is bad ass! You vent, we can take it. Always remember a problem + nicotine = 2 problems. I quit with you today.

[Shubster]

So I'm at 7 days dip free and that's great, however I'm experiencing a side effect I hadn't counted on. First off some background, I have to own up to the fact that I'm not a guy who like to deal with his problems. I like to kick that can down the road and then I'm really good at forgetting the can existed in the first place. So now 7 days into my quit I'm finding those old cans falling out of sky all over the damned place. Problems with my marriage, problems with work, problems that I have with myself, all of which I've either buried or avoided for years. It doesn't make sense but it's like the damn dip was a twig holding all this shit off my head and now I'm up to my ears in it.

Long story short, right now I'm a mess and would like nothing better to do than run and hide and pretend everything is okay until I start to believe it again. But this morning as I was going through the list of things I *should* do today but really wanted to avoid , I finally reached my breaking point and and made a commitment to myself.

I will not stain any more of my tomorrows with today's shit.

This means I man up today and admit my problems and start to fix them. And if that entails therapy and talking about things that I've tried to bury so be it. It means that I am quit and will stay quit. It means that when I have problems and need help, I with deal with them and ask for help. Not pretend to be strong and ignore it.

This isn't entirely quit related and as I re-read this I sound like a whiny bitch. But I'm going to post this up anyways because I want it official and out where I can't pretend it didn't happen. Thanks for giving me a place where I can finally hold myself accountable, it turns out I needed that for a lot more than just the can.

[srans]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.

first welcome to the best decision you ever made, KTC works if you go all in! second fake dip is not cheating, do whatever it takes to keep nic out of your system. Lots of water and exercise really helps early on to flush the poison out of your system. Lastly read read read on KTC and learn all you can about nic and quitting, words of wisdom is a good place to start!

What^^ he said! Hydrate, exercise, and READ, READ, READ! So much quit knowledge on KTC. Get pissed off at that poison weed! PM me if you need anything.

Listen to these guys. Welcome to quit and enjoy your new freedom.

Everyone that quits thinks the poison helps this or that. It's proven that using does nothing for you but feed your addiction. Start doing some research and learn everything you can about the poison. You'll find that a of your beliefs are lies. Learn your enemy it knows you.

Here's one that I found interesting. I've read that nicotine can negatively affect your memory. It's proven that people that smoke for years can not concentrate as well as someone who has not. Add that with not being able to remember things as well. The fact is brother, we are the ones that have screwed our shi@@. Nicotine has stolen stuff from us we will never get back. It takes until there is nothing left. If we didn't/don't quit it would continue until there is nothing left.

There is a great book to read. A lot of us have read it. Allen car's the easy way to quit smoking. Check it out. Once you know the truths you can start the real healing!!

Pay attention to my next line. One day at a time and you can have back a LOT of what the poison has stolen. Never again for any reason and you can keep it.

[Grizzlyhasclaws]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.

first welcome to the best decision you ever made, KTC works if you go all in! second fake dip is not cheating, do whatever it takes to keep nic out of your system. Lots of water and exercise really helps early on to flush the poison out of your system. Lastly read read read on KTC and learn all you can about nic and quitting, words of wisdom is a good place to start!

What^^ he said! Hydrate, exercise, and READ, READ, READ! So much quit knowledge on KTC. Get pissed off at that poison weed! PM me if you need anything.

Listen to these guys. Welcome to quit and enjoy your new freedom.

[B-loMatt]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.

first welcome to the best decision you ever made, KTC works if you go all in! second fake dip is not cheating, do whatever it takes to keep nic out of your system. Lots of water and exercise really helps early on to flush the poison out of your system. Lastly read read read on KTC and learn all you can about nic and quitting, words of wisdom is a good place to start!

What^^ he said! Hydrate, exercise, and READ, READ, READ! So much quit knowledge on KTC. Get pissed off at that poison weed! PM me if you need anything.

[D2maine]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.

first welcome to the best decision you ever made, KTC works if you go all in! second fake dip is not cheating, do whatever it takes to keep nic out of your system. Lots of water and exercise really helps early on to flush the poison out of your system. Lastly read read read on KTC and learn all you can about nic and quitting, words of wisdom is a good place to start!

[Shubster]

So I'm finally doing this for real. Amazing how such a stupid thing has turned into such a beast. I started dipping about 12 years ago as a way of self medicating for my ADD. I'm a computer programmer and at the time was having a lot of trouble focusing all day. Being the smart guy I was, I found out that nicotine could help people focus and I wouldn't have to go the whole doctor/medication route. I figured out ways to use pouches so I didn't have to spit, and then I could dip in the office,conference meetings, basically all damned day. I swear it seemed to make sense then..god I was an idiot. Of course in some ways that worked and even though I eventually got a handle on my ADD and got on some meds that work, I was left with this addiction for something I don't even enjoy anymore. I've made a couple of half-assed attempts to stop, just enough to for the withdrawl effect to scare the piss out of me.

But I'm already into day 2 and still committed. I did my first roll call with my quit group yesterday. My reaction to the support I got from you guys actually surprised me. Didn't know I needed it that much, but thank you guys.
After chewing my mouth up yesterday sucking on a couple hundred mints, I searched half the state to find a place that sells mint chew. God this stuff is amazing. Almost completely satisfies the oral craving. I almost feel like I'm cheating since I'm back to having a wad of something in my mouth all day. But I figure I'll deal with that after the nicotine out of the picture.