My 1st day of quit

[jgbtx]

Everything ok?

[Derk40]

Nice HOF milestone brother! Holy smokes you have been a fighter. Proud to be quit with you today! See you tomorrow at roll!

[Mthomas3824]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

^^^ THIS... Is badassery at its finest! You're an inspiration brother... Congrats to you sir. I bow in your general direction!

Brian,

You're an inspiration and I'm proud as fuck to have quit with you these past 100 days.

QL

Brian, your dedication to your quit has been in inspiration to so many people here including myself. I truly hope that whatever you have used as an excuse not to post roll the last few days becomes more obvious to you that it is an excuse. If you are sick, ask you wife to send a text to me on your phone like she has done for you before. If you are pissed that some one here has shit on your quit by questioning your situation, give me their name and I'll address it myself. You can continue to post roll. I know you can.

I expect to see your name here by the end of the day thanking us for standing by your side while we all battled the nic-bitch together. Then tomorrow, I expect to see your name on roll call again, and again the next day. Don't you fucking dare loose hope in us brother. We never lost hope in you.

Brian you are a damn badass, and you have gone through tough times recently. Not a single one of us knows what its like, but your strong attitude and your return has made me proud of your quit. I fucked up my quit in November like a spineless shithead but you have been one strong badass quitter even after all the tough shit you just went through. Im damn proud of you and I know you have been MIA for a bit but im looking forward to your return.

100% Fighter! Nothing to add but I just agree.

[Onedollar99cents]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

^^^ THIS... Is badassery at its finest! You're an inspiration brother... Congrats to you sir. I bow in your general direction!

Brian,

You're an inspiration and I'm proud as fuck to have quit with you these past 100 days.

QL

Brian, your dedication to your quit has been in inspiration to so many people here including myself. I truly hope that whatever you have used as an excuse not to post roll the last few days becomes more obvious to you that it is an excuse. If you are sick, ask you wife to send a text to me on your phone like she has done for you before. If you are pissed that some one here has shit on your quit by questioning your situation, give me their name and I'll address it myself. You can continue to post roll. I know you can.

I expect to see your name here by the end of the day thanking us for standing by your side while we all battled the nic-bitch together. Then tomorrow, I expect to see your name on roll call again, and again the next day. Don't you fucking dare loose hope in us brother. We never lost hope in you.

Brian you are a damn badass, and you have gone through tough times recently. Not a single one of us knows what its like, but your strong attitude and your return has made me proud of your quit. I fucked up my quit in November like a spineless shithead but you have been one strong badass quitter even after all the tough shit you just went through. Im damn proud of you and I know you have been MIA for a bit but im looking forward to your return.

[dabean22]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

^^^ THIS... Is badassery at its finest! You're an inspiration brother... Congrats to you sir. I bow in your general direction!

Brian,

You're an inspiration and I'm proud as fuck to have quit with you these past 100 days.

QL

Brian, your dedication to your quit has been in inspiration to so many people here including myself. I truly hope that whatever you have used as an excuse not to post roll the last few days becomes more obvious to you that it is an excuse. If you are sick, ask you wife to send a text to me on your phone like she has done for you before. If you are pissed that some one here has shit on your quit by questioning your situation, give me their name and I'll address it myself. You can continue to post roll. I know you can.

I expect to see your name here by the end of the day thanking us for standing by your side while we all battled the nic-bitch together. Then tomorrow, I expect to see your name on roll call again, and again the next day. Don't you fucking dare loose hope in us brother. We never lost hope in you.

[quittinglawyer]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

^^^ THIS... Is badassery at its finest! You're an inspiration brother... Congrats to you sir. I bow in your general direction!

Brian,

You're an inspiration and I'm proud as fuck to have quit with you these past 100 days.

QL

[AppleJack]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

^^^ THIS... Is badassery at its finest! You're an inspiration brother... Congrats to you sir. I bow in your general direction!

[Jlud007]

Finally we have an IT engineer from Indianapolis, Brian, bjarrett74. Most of you know the rough road that Brian has traveled as he has battled to stay quit in the face of other serious health issues during his first 100 days. He is married with 2 children. Brian is planning to head our for some steak and lobster for his 100th day if he is at home. His words of wisdom for the group are; "Quitting was not easy, I could not have done it without the support of my wife and my KTC Family. Posting roll, no matter how many days you are quit, still works. Like we say in AA, "It only works, if you work it" He also had this to say about who inspires him here at KTC; "dabean22 - I would hate to disappoint this guy, not that he would yell or cuss me out, but because he is like real family to me and to disappoint him would kill me. He does so much for the group and the site as a whole. He has stuck by me through my issues and he is the first person to come to other member's aid." and "My family in November 2013 always helps me when they post roll. You guys have kept me quit and supported me through the tough times. You guys have reached out to my wife, and shown her support. I cannot thank all of you enough! Stay quit and keep posting roll, no matter how many days quit you are!"

Congrats and hope your feeling better for you 100th day quit Brian!

[kjames242]

Brian, you have missed roll call for two consecutive days now. You have a lot of people worried about you because of your medical history, its understandable. I checked this morning and it said that you accessed the site around 9 something this morning, another brother looked later in the day and showed you had accesed the site just before noon, and now it shows that you accesed it an hour or so later. Your wife texted me from your phone saying you have the flu. I'm sorry to hear that but what I want to know is this.....
If you are online, why aren't you posting roll?
If your wife is online for you, why aren't you having her post for you?
If she is just browsing the website while you are sleeping, why does she keep coming back throughout the day?
No one here has been more active in supporting you while you battle your medical issues but we need to know whats keeping you from roll call. We are worried.

BJarret,
Dude I don't know you cant even imagine what you went through but do you really want to bring your HOF in like this missing roll two days prior?


Brian,
It was me that spoke with Dean today because I am worried about you man! Let's celebrate you boarding on the train. The flu sucks ass but post man! Let's all board the train (November)! I'll pick you up and carry you on board if I need to. It's what brothers do!

Let's hear from you!
Kevin James

[traumagnet]

Brian, you have missed roll call for two consecutive days now. You have a lot of people worried about you because of your medical history, its understandable. I checked this morning and it said that you accessed the site around 9 something this morning, another brother looked later in the day and showed you had accesed the site just before noon, and now it shows that you accesed it an hour or so later. Your wife texted me from your phone saying you have the flu. I'm sorry to hear that but what I want to know is this.....
If you are online, why aren't you posting roll?
If your wife is online for you, why aren't you having her post for you?
If she is just browsing the website while you are sleeping, why does she keep coming back throughout the day?
No one here has been more active in supporting you while you battle your medical issues but we need to know whats keeping you from roll call. We are worried.

BJarret,
Dude I don't know you cant even imagine what you went through but do you really want to bring your HOF in like this missing roll two days prior?

[dabean22]

Brian, you have missed roll call for two consecutive days now. You have a lot of people worried about you because of your medical history, its understandable. I checked this morning and it said that you accessed the site around 9 something this morning, another brother looked later in the day and showed you had accesed the site just before noon, and now it shows that you accesed it an hour or so later. Your wife texted me from your phone saying you have the flu. I'm sorry to hear that but what I want to know is this.....
If you are online, why aren't you posting roll?
If your wife is online for you, why aren't you having her post for you?
If she is just browsing the website while you are sleeping, why does she keep coming back throughout the day?
No one here has been more active in supporting you while you battle your medical issues but we need to know whats keeping you from roll call. We are worried.

[Mthomas3824]

Some people have decided to question my hospital stay.

First, let me say this, If you want to talk to me, then you could get my cell number or send a PM asking if you could call me. HIPAA has a feature for hospital patients called the "No Information List."

This prevents hospital staff from telling callers or visitors that do not know the room number, where I am, or that I am even there. I am set on this list permanently. I am sorry if some feel that because the hospital says I am not there, then I must be lying.

Just so everyone knows, I am home now, and have been since 0930 EST today. I was discharged from the ICU Step-Down, 2nd floor, door 6 at St. Vincent Hospital, Indianapolis, IN.

I have never done anything to sway the site's trust, why would I want to do that? This site has changed my life and I am eternally grateful. Sometimes things just get retarded, so stop it!

??????????

I haven't heard anyone question your quit. I have a lot of time on my hands but who the hell would call a hospital to validate your whereabouts?

There is support and there is stalking. If what you're saying is true, that is bizarre.

The only concern I have about your hospital stay is that you are doing better.

[bjarrett74]

Some people have decided to question my hospital stay.

First, let me say this, If you want to talk to me, then you could get my cell number or send a PM asking if you could call me. HIPAA has a feature for hospital patients called the "No Information List."

This prevents hospital staff from telling callers or visitors that do not know the room number, where I am, or that I am even there. I am set on this list permanently. I am sorry if some feel that because the hospital says I am not there, then I must be lying.

Just so everyone knows, I am home now, and have been since 0930 EST today. I was discharged from the ICU Step-Down, 2nd floor, door 6 at St. Vincent Hospital, Indianapolis, IN.

I have never done anything to sway the site's trust, why would I want to do that? This site has changed my life and I am eternally grateful. Sometimes things just get retarded, so stop it!

[Coach Steve]

While I was out, there was some drama in my group and on the site as a whole. This revolved around Paddymac02 and his admission that he was not quit the whole time he posted that he was. He admitted to posting roll with a dip in his mouth. This upset quite a large number of people. Everyone reacted differently, but the primary reaction from most people was anger.

For me, my first emotion was disappointment. I am friends with Patrick and I have talked to him since the fiasco occurred. I am proud of him for admitting his shortcomings to everyone. The fact that he lied does burn, however, I am an addict and I have been since I was 9 years old. Patrick too, is an addict and addicts tend to lie.

I am not for any moment saying that what he did is ok, it is far from ok. That does not mean that I will stop supporting him in his quit. Whether he caves again or not, I will continue to support him during the entire process. Those who were hurt by his actions have the right to be so. Patrick knows what he did hurt many people and he knows that others have quit the site because he was removed. This shows how one person's actions can effect an entire population.

The admins are here for a reason. They have the hard and thankless job of keeping the integrity of this site, and the people's integrity, stable. On a site this large, it is hard to do. The admins collectively made a decision to remove Paddymac from the site. This was done to maintain the recovery environment that we need and to maintain the integrity of the site and members.

I know this decision did not come lightly to the admins. But, the admins made a decision to protect the whole site and not just one person or quit group. With that said, I do not agree with the admin's decision to remove Paddymac, as he is in desperate need of support, but I understand why they did it. I will respect the decision and stand by the admins for their decision.

This might give me some enemies, and for that I am sorry. I do not meant to hurt or anger anyone by this, I am simply stating where I stand on this.

I will continue to support anyone and everyone, no matter what they are addicted to. I love this site and I am proud to be and stay a member.

One of the best posts I've read during this whole episode! Thanks for your courage and fight bjarrett. Good luck and I hope you go home soon if not already there! AND I am proud to quit with you today!

To get one thing clear, I don't hate the addict, I hate the vices and the addiction.

Paddy needed to be reproved with sharpness. I can't speak for anyone else. Its only an assumption that others think like me, I love Paddy and truly respect him coming clean. That is a big breakthrough for an addict.

The consequence is that he removed the barrier of accountability. We all support anyone who wants to be quit, trust me. Even in anger, I wouldn't want anyone to dip.

The sacredness (and I think the word is appropriate) of the roll is honesty. We all have dipped and lied about it. We all get it but quitting isn't about nicotine alone its about coming clean and going forward with honesty about addiction. I dipped and lied to my wife, my kids, my church and some of my friends. So I am capable of letting them down. Giving them my word is not as magical as this roll because I never crossed over the line and lied about my nic use.

KTC roll holds me accountable! Other promises don't. That is the magic, we begin being honest with the roll. Paddy can quit and I am sure he learned the value of being honest. Hell he came clean and that is a sign of integrity! So I commend him on that. However there are consequences that happen even when we are mending fences.

Paddy is on the right course now and I hope he finds a new accountability that he can use to quit. I really think this "Drama" was good therapy for all of us addicts. I hope if there are any other Paddy's they come clean too because you can't lie and quit together. Lie and addiction or honesty and quit. They just don't mix.

I know it's difficult to remember since we are such badasses here at KTC, but there are several other quit smokeless sites on the internet. Most of which accept what Paddy did here without consequence. So it isn't as if he doesn't have any other options or resourcesÂ…QSX Lite is the obvious suggestion here...

[Mthomas3824]

While I was out, there was some drama in my group and on the site as a whole. This revolved around Paddymac02 and his admission that he was not quit the whole time he posted that he was. He admitted to posting roll with a dip in his mouth. This upset quite a large number of people. Everyone reacted differently, but the primary reaction from most people was anger.

For me, my first emotion was disappointment. I am friends with Patrick and I have talked to him since the fiasco occurred. I am proud of him for admitting his shortcomings to everyone. The fact that he lied does burn, however, I am an addict and I have been since I was 9 years old. Patrick too, is an addict and addicts tend to lie.

I am not for any moment saying that what he did is ok, it is far from ok. That does not mean that I will stop supporting him in his quit. Whether he caves again or not, I will continue to support him during the entire process. Those who were hurt by his actions have the right to be so. Patrick knows what he did hurt many people and he knows that others have quit the site because he was removed. This shows how one person's actions can effect an entire population.

The admins are here for a reason. They have the hard and thankless job of keeping the integrity of this site, and the people's integrity, stable. On a site this large, it is hard to do. The admins collectively made a decision to remove Paddymac from the site. This was done to maintain the recovery environment that we need and to maintain the integrity of the site and members.

I know this decision did not come lightly to the admins. But, the admins made a decision to protect the whole site and not just one person or quit group. With that said, I do not agree with the admin's decision to remove Paddymac, as he is in desperate need of support, but I understand why they did it. I will respect the decision and stand by the admins for their decision.

This might give me some enemies, and for that I am sorry. I do not meant to hurt or anger anyone by this, I am simply stating where I stand on this.

I will continue to support anyone and everyone, no matter what they are addicted to. I love this site and I am proud to be and stay a member.

One of the best posts I've read during this whole episode! Thanks for your courage and fight bjarrett. Good luck and I hope you go home soon if not already there! AND I am proud to quit with you today!

To get one thing clear, I don't hate the addict, I hate the vices and the addiction.

Paddy needed to be reproved with sharpness. I can't speak for anyone else. Its only an assumption that others think like me, I love Paddy and truly respect him coming clean. That is a big breakthrough for an addict.

The consequence is that he removed the barrier of accountability. We all support anyone who wants to be quit, trust me. Even in anger, I wouldn't want anyone to dip.

The sacredness (and I think the word is appropriate) of the roll is honesty. We all have dipped and lied about it. We all get it but quitting isn't about nicotine alone its about coming clean and going forward with honesty about addiction. I dipped and lied to my wife, my kids, my church and some of my friends. So I am capable of letting them down. Giving them my word is not as magical as this roll because I never crossed over the line and lied about my nic use.

KTC roll holds me accountable! Other promises don't. That is the magic, we begin being honest with the roll. Paddy can quit and I am sure he learned the value of being honest. Hell he came clean and that is a sign of integrity! So I commend him on that. However there are consequences that happen even when we are mending fences.

Paddy is on the right course now and I hope he finds a new accountability that he can use to quit. I really think this "Drama" was good therapy for all of us addicts. I hope if there are any other Paddy's they come clean too because you can't lie and quit together. Lie and addiction or honesty and quit. They just don't mix.